I have been looking for a website that explains the different hook END types. I found this video of Margaret's very helpful (and the ONLY website) that I was able to find with what I was looking for. So thank you Margaret! My favorites are the aluminum hooks which I learned with to crochet 36 years ago.I don't do anything fancy, but I love crocheting.
+51katz I don't do anything fancy either but isn't crocheting wonderful?! Glad you found this helpful. I think it's really interesting how crocheters clearly favor one hook over another. Very rarely do we find someone who doesn't have a preference!
I prefer the Susan Bates hooks. I recently purchased clover “Amour” hooks and I love them. They are so comfortable in my hand and the hooks are so smooth and just glide through the yarn. They are similar to the Bates hooks but a little more tapered. I cannot use Boye hooks. They seem to catch on the yarn and split it when I pull through the loops.
I love those *Clover **_Amour_* hooks also! Just bought a complete set --- from 2.5 mm to 15 mm sizes --- from Joann's using a 60% off coupon! ♥♥♥ I can't stand those Susan Bates-style hooks. They slow me down. But these *Amour* hooks are 'da BOMB!
I learned how to crochet with an aluminum Boye hook, and it always felt a little bit awkward to me, somehow. Then, the first time I ever tried an aluminum Susan Bates hook, I was flabbergasted at the difference in how easily I could create my stitches, and how quickly my speed in crocheting improved. I know if a person is working any kind of Tunisian crochet with short rows, that the Boye hook is really good, because the thumb print section is farther away from the head of the hook, but I prefer the thumbprint section closer to the head of the hook, as in the Susan Bates hooks- the Susan Bates hooks are my all-time favorites, and I have taken rubber bands for the smaller sizes and wrapped the shaft of the hook with several rubber bands, and then put pencil gel grips over the hooks to pad them; and if the hooks are bigger, I just put the pencil gel grip right over the hook, and it fits fine, and prevents my fingers and hands from getting sore from holding the hard metal hook for too long. Incidentally, I use the knife hold for crocheting- I do know how to crochet with the pencil hold but it makes my thumb and first finger, along with my wrist, ache- but the knife hold, doesn't.
Finding you're preferred combo of crochet style and hook makes all the difference in the world! I get comments every now and then about my "unusual" crochet style but I ignore them. As long as we get a pleasing result and we enjoy the process then who cares?!?! I'm so glad to know you've found your fit!!!
Thanks for the info. I'll check out those sites. My favorite hooks, and the ones that I keep coming back to, are my Susan Bates with the bamboo handles. I tend to crochet tightly, and the even shape of the Bates hooks keeps my gauge much looser. My hook gets caught up in the stitches when I use tapered hooks, and it really slows me down.
Oh and my name is Donna Cornett. Before long I want to have a channel too, but for now I just respond on others channels like: Bag-O-Day Crochet & More, Creative Grandma, Setta's Place, Happiness is Homemade, Happy Berry's Crochet, The Secret Yarnery, Little Drops of Wonderful and Too many others to name.
I definitely prefer the Bates style hooks. I got some aluminum Red Heart brand hooks at Walmart (Canada) that I am very happy with, but I think they are possibly by Susan Bates or a knock off. Same style.
Thank you for sharing this information. I’m going to look up those sites and read through. I like the Susan Bates hooks myself but I do have others that I like. I never really compared them to see what it is that is different about them so this video got me thinking about that.
Thanx for this video explaining & more importantly seeing the difference up close & magnified, between the tapered & inline type structure of crochet hook-for many, the use of one type or the other REALLY makes a big difference in crocheting!
You're so welcome, Maria! It DOES make a difference once we settle on what we prefer, doesn't it? As a matter of fact, I couldn't figure out why I was being picky so I did my research! Ha!
Fascinating video. I'm not a very experienced crocheter and had no idea that there were so many different styles of hook. I had been using my old aluminum hooks but I'm going to look at them much more closely now. Thank you.
You know, Mary... it really doesn't matter as long as it's comfortable for YOU! I'm convinced it's our method and technique that govern what we tend to favor. I'd start with one Boye and one Susan Bates and decide if you prefer tapered or inline and THEN look into the fancy brands if you want. They all fall into one of those 2 categories! I have a preference for inline and to this day, I'm most happy with the inexpensive Susan Bates!
@@sheepishlysharing I have cheap ones but no idea if they are Bates or Boyle...having never heard of either till now I guess it don't matter really. BUT- thank you for taking the time to put up a response. Much appreciated. Stay well.
I enjoyed this video, great job Margaret! That Luxite set was my 1st set of hooks! Recently, I bought another set from Joann's for about $2. Because,if I want to show someone how to crochet, I can let them use the Luxites. I have sooo many types of hooks. They're a fun & inexpensive collectable. I have 2 of the finely crafted hooks by Bill at Turn of the Century; An African Blackwood & a Mulberry wood hook. I use the Etimo Rose & the Clover Soft touch for most of my projects.
Margaret Olander Maybe I'll do a vid of my hooks. First, I have to clear all the WIPS from the buffet table. I Yi Yi! I showed my Rose set & Soft Touch set in that vid I made; "My Favorite Yarn Craft Items" (a response to your vid!).
Thank you! I'm picking up crochet again and was really frustrated at my speed with this project and didn't know why my yarn kept slipping. I finally realized that one, my hold wasn't the best, but two, I really didn't like the clover hook I'm using. I started buying Susan bates aluminum with a woof handle years ago and loved them, but this project called for a bigger hook so I ordered a clover plastic hook on amazon.... God I hate small chin chins lol. I finally realized why I have such a hard time with this video. I will finish my blanket with this hook but now I know what to look for when I buy my next hook. Thank you!
I dont like the Bates hook edge. I agree plastic isn’t the best, but I just started crocheting and plastic hooks and knitting needles are like 1/3 the price of metal. Especially in the bigger sizes. So I do have some plastic. But like I said, I just started crocheting, so I’m sure I’ll decide what I like best in different sizes as time goes on. Right now, 5.00mm gold Boye is my boy. Lol.
Boye: They are my favorite because of how I like the long-tapered neck/throat. I have been crocheting for 43 years and have tried others, but the yarns just do not flow over the hook for the way I crochet. I just crochet faster with Boye. It is the non-roundness of the neck I never liked on Susan Bates and my yarn always never flows past that very smoothly when I am setting my stitch tension. Boye is round all the way and for me, that makes my flow of crochet move so much smoother and faster down on the hook. Plus, my hooks are 43 years old and well tested, wouldn't trade them for any others that are out there!........... Oh yeah, the shaft is where you get your stitch tension size so to me, it being round and a couple or 3 stitches room there makes for a more even tension in the overall of any piece I crochet, especially in tunisian/entrelac pieces
This is an older video and yet in my latest video, this comes up again! For my technique, I prefer Susan Bates BUT, working on a C2C and holding it at an odd angle while juggling colors, I switched to a Boye while in those odd positions because my inline hook wasn't as efficient at those unusual angles! So now, I use BOTH depending on the need!
Thank you! I'm just getting started (made my first pot holder with a very shallow-throated hook:( and realized there must be better hooks out there! I will check out those websites!
I prefer the tapered hook. I read "Croching in Plain English" by Maggie Righetti. Years ago. Published in 1988.i was already a crocheter.. But I agree with the author who concludes that there is a difference in the stitches with the flat-throated kind.
Another fabulous and informative video. I was taught with and bought tapered hooks but am interested in trying the other......Maybe one day. Blessings from Melbourne, Australia ☺🇦🇺❤❤
Love Susan bates because it is my nline and the hook for grabbing ur yarn is much deeper and much faster for me. Bought some bites by accident and didn’t know y I was struggling u til I compared it with a Bates, been using Bates for over 50 years, don’t know if there was a Boye back then and didn’t know this lingo abt tapered as opposed to inline! This is much needed info, ty
Oh! Good timing! My latest video I showed where I happened upon a discovery of using different hooks for different purposes! I've always been more comfortable with an inline hook BUT... ruclips.net/video/vxWlf-9jzJA/видео.html
Great video, very informative! I see that I am in the minority here in the comments but I love Boye hooks and I can't crochet as well with the Bates style hooks. They catch the yarn in a way that makes me work harder to keep the stitches flowing. The Boye hooks just seem to flow much better for my work. Thanks for the great video, sending Love from Memphis, TN!
We’re fortunate to have choices, aren’t we?! I’m convinced it has something to do with our unique techniques that guide our preferences. Once you land on a favorite, it makes the whole experience better!
I never used either of Boye or Susan Bates. They don't work for me. However, I have my top favorites that I used all the time. It's Etimo Tulip crochet hooks. Sadly, you won't find them here in USA (I wish) but you can order any size on either Amazon or Ebay or Etsy. They are the best and comfortable. They comes in two different color. One is pink with silver and other is black with gold. I chose pink cuz I'm a pink girl! The second favorite is Clover Amour. They are great! They're light and comfortable. Almost all craft stores have them. I had double carpal tunnel and I had to have surgery. They're fine now. That is why I prefer those hooks. Enjoy!
Actually, I've tried both of those you mentioned. They're in the tapered category (like Boye) which is not my favorite. Plus I found the throats to be too shallow for me. Erin and I did a trade and I gave her all of my tapered hooks and she gave me all of her inline hooks! But... that's the purpose of this video, isn't it? Learning our options so we can make the best choices for our individual styles!
I like the tapered hook of Susan Bates but the biggest reason I love Susan Bates and those types are the hook design itself. I find the tighter bend makes it easier to pull through my work so much better than Boye. I started with Boye so I can use that just fine but I’m way faster and get caught or loose the loops way less with the more tapered hook
When I started crocheting MANY years ago, I bought a size "H" Boye hook and used it for everything I made. Then, after many years, I ventured out tried the rest of them. Since I used a Boye for so long and was more accustomed to them, I prefer them, plus, they are inexpensive.
I have an old H Boye hook that I started on, too! But mine was from elementary school and I didn't pick it up again until I was about 50! Not sure how I fell in love with the Susan Bates but I suppose it doesn't matter now. You're exactly right, I'm so used to them now it's hard to change!
I LOVE LOVE LOVE Susan Bates with the Bamboo handles, trying to get myself the whole set, but from Australia, the are expensive to come by, the are as scarce as hens teeth over here and just not stocked by hardly anyone, so they cost afortune on Amazon and or Etsy, if the sellars actually send to Aus. I love hers, for what you call a deep part to the chinny chin chin. They grip my stitches better and stop yarn splitting :) xx
Poor Australia! Such an awesome, progressive country and yet your location makes it hard for many suppliers. One day, Amazon is going to figure out how to serve y'all better...surely so! Australia is on our wishlist to visit one day. Wish it could be tomorrow so I could hand-deliver them to you, Cindy!
@@sheepishlysharing OH Margaret, I will hold you to that and bless your Heart. :) Hand on heart, Thank you for even saying that you would do that. :) xx
Thank you for this video which was more helpful on the topic of hook head differences than anything I have found. I am with you on wanting a deep hook (or chinny chin chin) but have not been able to find deep ones in really small sizes (like for lace crocheting or those tiny tiny amigurumi figures some people sell on Etsy). I didn't know any better and bought the range between .5mm and 1.75mm offered by Clover in their Soft Touch line. I got them and began to try them using sewing thread but it keeps slipping out of the hook when I turn the hook to pull it through the loop. I thought it was me but now I really do think it is the shallow hook shape. I have a handful of assorted antique/vintage ones (with hand-crampingly small handles which is why I bought the Clover ones) and am now comparing the old with the new. Some have maybe a tiny bit more hook but not much. I guess my question is: have you or any of your viewers out there.ever come across tiny ones with deeper hooks?
I don't know of any off the top of my head but the search term that will help you find some is "inline hooks." Maybe search specifically like ".5 mm inline crochet hook" and see what comes up!
Ya know, I crocheted for years and years and never really noticed or looked at the differences in my hooks. I have about all the sizes and I just bought whatever they had in the size I needed and the color I liked! LOL hmmm, I think I will check and see what brands I have.. I do mostly knitting now but I still crochet when the mood strikes! LOL
Really?? I noticed because I didn't do as well with the Boye, and after blaming myself through several projects, I figured out it wasn't really me at all! Ha! (It's definitely the combination of the hook AND how you hold everything. You just must be more talented than the most of us!)
My all time favorite will always be BOYE!! Can't stand the deep "chinney chin-chin" kind. I have 2 I think it's L hooks and one is deep and I can't stand it!! All I have ever used is steel boye hooks. I love 'em to pieces. Never really thought of buying any other type hook. So satisfied with mine!
ambiekrafts reads Isn't it funny how we all like different tools to get the same job done?! (I'm glad we have choices.) I've only heard of 1 person who doesn't have a preference.. that's really rare!
In Canada we use the us system for hook measurement and we have red heart hooks here in walmart and they are like the Susan Baytes hooks. I like the inline hooks because they always grip the yarn where I have trouble with the boyes not hooking the yarn.
Thx! Great info! I use different ones as I like to match color of hook with yarn. Thus I have several of each size from various companies in differing colors.
I have different styles of hooks as I find that even if the hooks are labelled the same size some work better for me depending on the yarn that I am using, If I had to choose a favourite it would be the Susan Bates although I do like a lot of my vintage Aero hooks ( no longer made) especially in the smaller sizes.
Great research and information Margaret. I do like the look of the Susan Bates coloured hooks. My currently growing more and more to liking my Knit Pro black handled hook (I only have one in a 5.5mm size). That gauge is a nice idea but I'm guessing it's difficult to use on some hooks (especially if they aren't "inline"?).
Hello, my name is Grace, and I discovered your channel through watching Pam Chatfield, 24 Carat Crochet, among others. I really enjoy watching your videos, and this one is quite interesting. I also like the Susan Bates hooks. In fact, when I first taught myself to crochet a little over 3 years ago, I almost gave up when using the Boye hooks, because my yarn kept slipping off the head, and my yarn kept splitting. I usually use the Bates hooks with the bamboo handle, as my hands and fingers get sore. Thanks again for the info!!
Hi, Grace! I'm glad we "found" each other! I SO get what you're saying about the Boye hooks... when I first started, I didn't realize that different hooks could make such a difference so I thought I was doing something wrong until I finally figured it out! So the bamboo handles make a difference, huh? Are you a knife or pencil grip crocheter?
Margaret Olander I use the knife hold, and I find the bigger handles easier on my hands - keeps them from cramping up so much. I learned how to crochet by reading books and watching You Tube about 3 1/2 years ago, and it seemed to take forever to figure out which way to hold that darn hook!! I am thrilled to have "found" you too:) You are so sweet and positive!!
I like the Bates , I can't seem to keep my stitch tension/size with the tapered hooks. When my grandma was teaching me to chain , I drove her crazy because my stitches would get tighter and tighter. 😁 I have picked up most of my hooks at garage sales so I have tried a lot of hooks. I will give them a spin and go back to Susan Bates.
Yes... me, too, yet others find them frustrating and prefer the tapered! I'm convinced it has something to do with our method. How we hold the hook and/or the angle at which we pull the loops through must be contributing factors! (That's my hypothesis at least! ❤)
Margaret just wondered if you knew of a good site that explains about knitting needle's one with cords and one that are called circular knitting needle's , and which ones to use for what projects ? Since i am so new to knitting thank's . Sorry i forgot to say i love all the information on crochet hooks it does help a lot of people new to crochet , thank's for sharing : ) toni g. : )
Well, I know that the knitting needles with cords ARE circular knitting needles! Then you have straight needles and DPNs (double pointed needles). Put "different types of knitting needles" in the RUclips search bar and you'll get all sorts of videos to choose from!
Thanks for your help ,i will search , the reason my arm was in a sling i fell and fracture my left shoulder and had 4 bone spurs and artiritis in collar bone too and a floating chip in there too they found when they fixed my left shoulder back in 4-29-2014 but i went to doctor just this tuesday i am out of sling now but i still go to therapy still to excerise the arm still : ) so now i can slowly get back to crocheting and knitting : ) again thanks for your help glad you had a good trip : ) hugs toni g.
thanks for sharing the info on the hooks! but i do prefer my boye hooks over my Susan bate, .and its not about the head/point. or the chinny chin chin! lol its all about the thumb rest. i like how there is more of a neck on the boye. and that the thumb rest is more to the middle of my hook.
+Margaret Olander (Sheepishly Sharing) well... I never really thought about it, until I watched your video... I looked at my hooks, and sure enough....the ones I preferred were SB... They look..and feel...so much better to me... It's what I learned on...
Thanks for the great information! I haven't played around too much with hooks yet. I'm very glad you linked the sites so I can also look into it. By the way the second I saw the wooden hooks I too thought of Harry potter wands! hahahahaha I loved working with the luxite when I was making fruit and veggies for my mother-in-law. They really are very smooth and I felt help speed the projects up.
I have both types of hooks boye and the Susan bates type (called red heart here in Canada but it has the exact same throat and head).. I actually don't have a preference I find them pretty much the same for me. I use them interchangeably and haven't noticed really any difference. The only thing I have issue with now is due to my lupus I have sore hands so I'm needing hooks with a comfort grip of some sort and those I'm finding make a difference in the grips. As for the actual hooks themselves I'm neutral. :)
Stefanie Leale Isn't it crazy how we all manage to get the same thing done but in so many different ways and with so many different preferences?! I'm glad we have options!
I started with boye knock offs. They were ok but hard to grip with my large hands. Moved on to actual boye hooks and didn't like them as much as the knock offs. LOL I quickly grew to despise them though. They were inconsistent in smoothness. I ordered a few Bates hooks with cute handles. I've used them ONCE for one project. I didn't HATE them but I didn't love them. I was constantly snagging my yarn on that deep chin area. For large hooks, the plastic clover amour have been my go to. They are very smooth. But my go-to hooks that I LOVE, love, LOVE are tulip etimo. They are as smooth as a baby's butt. And the chin area is very shallow - more so than boye. But the head is larger than boye. Not as tapered as boye so you aren't tempted to over tighten your stitches. But did I mention? Smooth as silk. I love the shallow chin because it quickly releases the yarn. I've just gotten used to keeping my yarn on the hook. Had a set of the bamboo. Hated them passionately, though they were lovely. It's that drag on the hook that I go to great lengths to avoid. THAT is why I love my tulips so much. Even cheap, scratchy yarns surrender to the smoothness of the tulips. And they've now got large size hooks too. Can't wait to try them. Mine are on their way now, from Japan. LOL These are the only hooks I have crocheted with that are still comfy after hours of crocheting.
I love, love, LOVE that we have so many options! I tried the Tulips and were not nearly as thrilled with them as you are! We're so fortunate to be able to pick and choose. Sometimes I marvel at how we spoiled we are to be able to "click, click" on what we want and have it delivered to our door! It's it great??!!
Margaret Olander indeed! If I can get it online and not have to get dressed and go to the door, I do. LOL And that's good in this case since stores don't seem to sell my tulips (can't understand why). Good thing I have several sets to cover all my bases.
To name a few: Knitter's Pride Dreamz: amzn.to/3z9t9hV Tulip Etimo: amzn.to/3fTMlsn Lewhook Ergonmic: amzn.to/3uQlKko NiArt: amzn.to/2SgsLOb You just have to do a search and then zoom into the picture to confirm that they really ARE inline and that you like the shape of the head as well. (Some are more rounded than Susan Bates.)
Hi good afternoon my name is Sylvia and I've got all kinds of hooks also but I love my Susan beats thank you very much for your beautiful tutorial thank you thank you very much bye-bye
Have a look at the FURL HOOKS. GOOGLE Them. ILove them and they would be wonderful to pass on as a family hierloom. Look at the STREALINE FURLS. Enjoy the add-on to to your hook education? Happy hooking.
Ah, yes... we've all seen those gorgeous Furls and I'm happy to say the head is too thick for my liking. (I like more space in that upper throat area.) Why am I happy to say that??? Because they're BEAUTIFUL and I'm sure I'd want them all if they aligned with my preferences!!! Good to know about the more affordable "Streamline" version so that's a super option! And don't forget the Candy Shop hooks. Very much like the Furls but in bright, fun colors!
@@sheepishlysharing Yes, I know of the Candy Shop furls as well. They are a fun collection. I noticed that many of the the young crowd as well as the young at heart crowd like them very much and swear by them. ;-) I just mentioned the Streamline because they are the newest addition to the beautiful classic style. They are a response to the Susan Bates style of hook. The point is, well, pointier and allow you to be able to crochet faster. I used to swear by the Boye type hook until I met the Susan Bates type. I have M.S. and not having to add the extra movement to insure that the hook head doesn't split the yarn or grab parts of the stitch unneeded helps me, personally, so that I may crochet much longer before tiring or hurting. So I understand. Each crochetter has their own preference or their would not have been a desire to search for another. LoL I had just wondered if you knew of the new Streamlines. I think that I am going to purcase a set of them in the Rosewood. After all, they do plant a tree to replenish what is cut down to make them. I may even add a Candy Shop style just to add a little color & fun to my collection. :-) Here's to enjoying the Wonderful art of Crochet.
I prefer bates hookes I find my crochet to be neater with that style. Unfortunately my husband bought me a set of hooks for my OA and RA issues and they aren't bates hooks :( while I prefer the bates these new hooks help my hands..
This is a very old video and the info is still accurate, however... In a more recent vlog, I showed how I discovered that while working on a certain large project, I put aside my preferred Susan Bates hooks and found the tapered hooks to be more helpful because of the angle I had to hold the work! I'm now a firm believer that I benefit from both styles, depending upon the project and/or need!
WHY choose hook over the other? Well, that's what this video is all about! Most of us have a preference and I probably has to do with our technique. Lucky you if you can comfortably use any style hook without noticing one to be an easier experience!
Love this information , thanks for sharing this will help all levels of crocheters ; ) Love all those types and styles of hooks : ) Yes i love amazom on line stores too : ) I cant wait till i get the huge wood hooks : ) Great for making rugs from strips of cloth : ) My grandkids like the boyle brand better than bates brand of the crochet hooks : ) I will show my g. kids this video next time there over : ) Have great day and keep on crocheting and knitting : ) Hugs toni g. : )
I don't know why I'm so fascinated by everyone's preferences in hooks but I love hearing about it! How fun to have the grandkids share your love for yarn!
Ha! I don't believe anybody does until they get a hook they find difficult to work with! Very few people have a technique that allows them to be comfortable with both so if that's YOU, you're a rare, fortunate gem!
very non informative video. "go and research this this and specifically this" is not useful information. If you spent more time with details about why exactly you like each characteristic of hook would be much more helpful. Also, organization is helpful for viewer understanding. Only until the very end portion of this video was it informative. And not very informative at all, if that. If you're just getting here, just click on the two url's posted and skip the video. Save yourself twelve minutes and fifty-eight seconds of time you would not otherwise get back.
Oh, dear, Melissa... You totally missed the point of this video and then had a temper tantrum about it... all over crochet hooks. In a nutshell... there are 2 main types of crochet hooks and which one you'll prefer totally depends on your preference and the ONLY way to determine that is to 1) know the differences so you'll know what to look for when shopping and 2) TRY them to determine which fits your technique and that is a form of personal research. The world is tough enough without you adding to it with anger and unkindness.
You know you're addicted to crochet when you watch 3 seasons of a TV show and have no idea what the characters look like !!!
Bet you can recognize their voices, though.
I have been looking for a website that explains the different hook END types. I found this video of Margaret's very helpful (and the ONLY website) that I was able to find with what I was looking for. So thank you Margaret! My favorites are the aluminum hooks which I learned with to crochet 36 years ago.I don't do anything fancy, but I love crocheting.
+51katz I don't do anything fancy either but isn't crocheting wonderful?! Glad you found this helpful. I think it's really interesting how crocheters clearly favor one hook over another. Very rarely do we find someone who doesn't have a preference!
I prefer the Susan Bates hooks. I recently purchased clover “Amour” hooks and I love them. They are so comfortable in my hand and the hooks are so smooth and just glide through the yarn. They are similar to the Bates hooks but a little more tapered. I cannot use Boye hooks. They seem to catch on the yarn and split it when I pull through the loops.
I love those *Clover **_Amour_* hooks also!
Just bought a complete set --- from 2.5 mm to 15 mm sizes --- from Joann's using a 60% off coupon! ♥♥♥
I can't stand those Susan Bates-style hooks. They slow me down. But these *Amour* hooks are 'da BOMB!
I can take those Boye hooks off your hands for you if you want
I learned how to crochet with an aluminum Boye hook, and it always felt a little bit awkward to me, somehow. Then, the first time I ever tried an aluminum Susan Bates hook, I was flabbergasted at the difference in how easily I could create my stitches, and how quickly my speed in crocheting improved. I know if a person is working any kind of Tunisian crochet with short rows, that the Boye hook is really good, because the thumb print section is farther away from the head of the hook, but I prefer the thumbprint section closer to the head of the hook, as in the Susan Bates hooks- the Susan Bates hooks are my all-time favorites, and I have taken rubber bands for the smaller sizes and wrapped the shaft of the hook with several rubber bands, and then put pencil gel grips over the hooks to pad them; and if the hooks are bigger, I just put the pencil gel grip right over the hook, and it fits fine, and prevents my fingers and hands from getting sore from holding the hard metal hook for too long. Incidentally, I use the knife hold for crocheting- I do know how to crochet with the pencil hold but it makes my thumb and first finger, along with my wrist, ache- but the knife hold, doesn't.
Finding you're preferred combo of crochet style and hook makes all the difference in the world! I get comments every now and then about my "unusual" crochet style but I ignore them. As long as we get a pleasing result and we enjoy the process then who cares?!?! I'm so glad to know you've found your fit!!!
Thanks for the info. I'll check out those sites. My favorite hooks, and the ones that I keep coming back to, are my Susan Bates with the bamboo handles. I tend to crochet tightly, and the even shape of the Bates hooks keeps my gauge much looser. My hook gets caught up in the stitches when I use tapered hooks, and it really slows me down.
Bingo! As to the hooks getting caught up in the other stitches. That is what sent me looking for an alternative style of hook in the first place. LoL
Oh and my name is Donna Cornett. Before long I want to have a channel too, but for now I just respond on others channels like: Bag-O-Day Crochet & More, Creative Grandma, Setta's Place, Happiness is Homemade, Happy Berry's Crochet, The Secret Yarnery, Little Drops of Wonderful and Too many others to name.
I definitely prefer the Bates style hooks. I got some aluminum Red Heart brand hooks at Walmart (Canada) that I am very happy with, but I think they are possibly by Susan Bates or a knock off. Same style.
Thank you for sharing this information. I’m going to look up those sites and read through. I like the Susan Bates hooks myself but I do have others that I like. I never really compared them to see what it is that is different about them so this video got me thinking about that.
Me, too! I knew I preferred the Susan Bates but I had never known that such small differences can affect our experience!
Thanx for this video explaining & more importantly seeing the difference up close & magnified, between the tapered & inline type structure of crochet hook-for many, the use of one type or the other REALLY makes a big difference in crocheting!
You're so welcome, Maria! It DOES make a difference once we settle on what we prefer, doesn't it? As a matter of fact, I couldn't figure out why I was being picky so I did my research! Ha!
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Fascinating video. I'm not a very experienced crocheter and had no idea that there were so many different styles of hook. I had been using my old aluminum hooks but I'm going to look at them much more closely now. Thank you.
You know, Mary... it really doesn't matter as long as it's comfortable for YOU! I'm convinced it's our method and technique that govern what we tend to favor. I'd start with one Boye and one Susan Bates and decide if you prefer tapered or inline and THEN look into the fancy brands if you want. They all fall into one of those 2 categories! I have a preference for inline and to this day, I'm most happy with the inexpensive Susan Bates!
@@sheepishlysharing I have cheap ones but no idea if they are Bates or Boyle...having never heard of either till now I guess it don't matter really. BUT- thank you for taking the time to put up a response. Much appreciated. Stay well.
I enjoyed this video, great job Margaret! That Luxite set was my 1st set of hooks! Recently, I bought another set from Joann's for about $2. Because,if I want to show someone how to crochet, I can let them use the Luxites. I have sooo many types of hooks. They're a fun & inexpensive collectable. I have 2 of the finely crafted hooks by Bill at Turn of the Century; An African Blackwood & a Mulberry wood hook. I use the Etimo Rose & the Clover Soft touch for most of my projects.
I'd love to see a video tour of your crochet hook collection! Tell us your opinions, too! I've never seen the Etimo Rose.
Margaret Olander Maybe I'll do a vid of my hooks. First, I have to clear all the WIPS from the buffet table. I Yi Yi! I showed my Rose set & Soft Touch set in that vid I made; "My Favorite Yarn Craft Items" (a response to your vid!).
It must not have registered in my brain because I know I watched that. I'll have to go look again!
Thank you! I'm picking up crochet again and was really frustrated at my speed with this project and didn't know why my yarn kept slipping. I finally realized that one, my hold wasn't the best, but two, I really didn't like the clover hook I'm using. I started buying Susan bates aluminum with a woof handle years ago and loved them, but this project called for a bigger hook so I ordered a clover plastic hook on amazon.... God I hate small chin chins lol. I finally realized why I have such a hard time with this video. I will finish my blanket with this hook but now I know what to look for when I buy my next hook. Thank you!
I dont like the Bates hook edge. I agree plastic isn’t the best, but I just started crocheting and plastic hooks and knitting needles are like 1/3 the price of metal. Especially in the bigger sizes. So I do have some plastic. But like I said, I just started crocheting, so I’m sure I’ll decide what I like best in different sizes as time goes on. Right now, 5.00mm gold Boye is my boy. Lol.
LOVE my Luxite hooks. love the feel and the slight "give" in them.
Me, too! And they're so light and you can't beat the price!
Thanks Margaret for sharing tips on the hook differences !! I have always preferred the tapered hooks
Boye: They are my favorite because of how I like the long-tapered neck/throat. I have been crocheting for 43 years and have tried others, but the yarns just do not flow over the hook for the way I crochet. I just crochet faster with Boye. It is the non-roundness of the neck I never liked on Susan Bates and my yarn always never flows past that very smoothly when I am setting my stitch tension. Boye is round all the way and for me, that makes my flow of crochet move so much smoother and faster down on the hook. Plus, my hooks are 43 years old and well tested, wouldn't trade them for any others that are out there!........... Oh yeah, the shaft is where you get your stitch tension size so to me, it being round and a couple or 3 stitches room there makes for a more even tension in the overall of any piece I crochet, especially in tunisian/entrelac pieces
This is an older video and yet in my latest video, this comes up again! For my technique, I prefer Susan Bates BUT, working on a C2C and holding it at an odd angle while juggling colors, I switched to a Boye while in those odd positions because my inline hook wasn't as efficient at those unusual angles! So now, I use BOTH depending on the need!
Thank you! I'm just getting started (made my first pot holder with a very shallow-throated hook:( and realized there must be better hooks out there! I will check out those websites!
Thanks for this video, yes it was very informative. Good to know stuff. I have both Susan Bates and Boye. But I much prefer my Boye hooks.
The multi-colored wooden hook is beautiful!
I prefer the tapered hook. I read "Croching in Plain English" by Maggie Righetti. Years ago. Published in 1988.i was already a crocheter.. But I agree with the author who concludes that there is a difference in the stitches with the
flat-throated kind.
Another fabulous and informative video. I was taught with and bought tapered hooks but am interested in trying the other......Maybe one day. Blessings from Melbourne, Australia ☺🇦🇺❤❤
It's strange how we develop our preferences! I'm convinced it has something to do with our techniques.
Love Susan bates because it is my nline and the hook for grabbing ur yarn is much deeper and much faster for me. Bought some bites by accident and didn’t know y I was struggling u til I compared it with a Bates, been using Bates for over 50 years, don’t know if there was a Boye back then and didn’t know this lingo abt tapered as opposed to inline! This is much needed info, ty
Oh! Good timing! My latest video I showed where I happened upon a discovery of using different hooks for different purposes! I've always been more comfortable with an inline hook BUT... ruclips.net/video/vxWlf-9jzJA/видео.html
Another fantastic video! As you know, I am a Susan Bates fan, because of my adaptive crochet method. Keep up the great work Margaret! You're the best!
Great video, very informative! I see that I am in the minority here in the comments but I love Boye hooks and I can't crochet as well with the Bates style hooks. They catch the yarn in a way that makes me work harder to keep the stitches flowing. The Boye hooks just seem to flow much better for my work. Thanks for the great video, sending Love from Memphis, TN!
We’re fortunate to have choices, aren’t we?! I’m convinced it has something to do with our unique techniques that guide our preferences. Once you land on a favorite, it makes the whole experience better!
@@sheepishlysharing You're absolutely right!
I never used either of Boye or Susan Bates. They don't work for me. However, I have my top favorites that I used all the time. It's Etimo Tulip crochet hooks. Sadly, you won't find them here in USA (I wish) but you can order any size on either Amazon or Ebay or Etsy. They are the best and comfortable. They comes in two different color. One is pink with silver and other is black with gold. I chose pink cuz I'm a pink girl! The second favorite is Clover Amour. They are great! They're light and comfortable. Almost all craft stores have them. I had double carpal tunnel and I had to have surgery. They're fine now. That is why I prefer those hooks. Enjoy!
Actually, I've tried both of those you mentioned. They're in the tapered category (like Boye) which is not my favorite. Plus I found the throats to be too shallow for me. Erin and I did a trade and I gave her all of my tapered hooks and she gave me all of her inline hooks! But... that's the purpose of this video, isn't it? Learning our options so we can make the best choices for our individual styles!
I like the tapered hook of Susan Bates but the biggest reason I love Susan Bates and those types are the hook design itself. I find the tighter bend makes it easier to pull through my work so much better than Boye.
I started with Boye so I can use that just fine but I’m way faster and get caught or loose the loops way less with the more tapered hook
I’m convinced our preference is dictated by our personal techniques. But whatever the reason isn’t it nice we have choices?!
When I started crocheting MANY years ago, I bought a size "H" Boye hook and used it for everything I made. Then, after many years, I ventured out tried the rest of them. Since I used a Boye for so long and was more accustomed to them, I prefer them, plus, they are inexpensive.
I have an old H Boye hook that I started on, too! But mine was from elementary school and I didn't pick it up again until I was about 50! Not sure how I fell in love with the Susan Bates but I suppose it doesn't matter now. You're exactly right, I'm so used to them now it's hard to change!
I LOVE LOVE LOVE Susan Bates with the Bamboo handles, trying to get myself the whole set, but from Australia, the are expensive to come by, the are as scarce as hens teeth over here and just not stocked by hardly anyone, so they cost afortune on Amazon and or Etsy, if the sellars actually send to Aus. I love hers, for what you call a deep part to the chinny chin chin. They grip my stitches better and stop yarn splitting :) xx
Poor Australia! Such an awesome, progressive country and yet your location makes it hard for many suppliers. One day, Amazon is going to figure out how to serve y'all better...surely so! Australia is on our wishlist to visit one day. Wish it could be tomorrow so I could hand-deliver them to you, Cindy!
@@sheepishlysharing OH Margaret, I will hold you to that and bless your Heart. :) Hand on heart, Thank you for even saying that you would do that. :) xx
Thank you for this video which was more helpful on the topic of hook head differences than anything I have found. I am with you on wanting a deep hook (or chinny chin chin) but have not been able to find deep ones in really small sizes (like for lace crocheting or those tiny tiny amigurumi figures some people sell on Etsy). I didn't know any better and bought the range between .5mm and 1.75mm offered by Clover in their Soft Touch line. I got them and began to try them using sewing thread but it keeps slipping out of the hook when I turn the hook to pull it through the loop. I thought it was me but now I really do think it is the shallow hook shape. I have a handful of assorted antique/vintage ones (with hand-crampingly small handles which is why I bought the Clover ones) and am now comparing the old with the new. Some have maybe a tiny bit more hook but not much. I guess my question is: have you or any of your viewers out there.ever come across tiny ones with deeper hooks?
I don't know of any off the top of my head but the search term that will help you find some is "inline hooks." Maybe search specifically like ".5 mm inline crochet hook" and see what comes up!
Ya know, I crocheted for years and years and never really noticed or looked at the differences in my hooks. I have about all the sizes and I just bought whatever they had in the size I needed and the color I liked! LOL hmmm, I think I will check and see what brands I have.. I do mostly knitting now but I still crochet when the mood strikes! LOL
Really?? I noticed because I didn't do as well with the Boye, and after blaming myself through several projects, I figured out it wasn't really me at all! Ha! (It's definitely the combination of the hook AND how you hold everything. You just must be more talented than the most of us!)
My all time favorite will always be BOYE!! Can't stand the deep "chinney chin-chin" kind. I have 2 I think it's L hooks and one is deep and I can't stand it!! All I have ever used is steel boye hooks. I love 'em to pieces. Never really thought of buying any other type hook. So satisfied with mine!
ambiekrafts reads Isn't it funny how we all like different tools to get the same job done?! (I'm glad we have choices.) I've only heard of 1 person who doesn't have a preference.. that's really rare!
Yea, it is rare. Thanks for reading my comment and for replying back!!
The reason why I prefer Boye hooks is because the Susan Bates hooks snag in my yarn. I like both though.
Isn't that crazy how we all have distinct preferences?? Rarely have I met someone who doesn't care at all!
In Canada we use the us system for hook measurement and we have red heart hooks here in walmart and they are like the Susan Baytes hooks. I like the inline hooks because they always grip the yarn where I have trouble with the boyes not hooking the yarn.
Thx! Great info! I use different ones as I like to match color of hook with yarn. Thus I have several of each size from various companies in differing colors.
Oooo.... you're talented to be able to bounce happily between brands without reservation!
Hi sorry for stupid question but what is a pot pan holder? Im in the uk and never heared about them in the uk 🇬🇧
Thank you! Very helpful ☺️
You're so welcome!
I have different styles of hooks as I find that even if the hooks are labelled the same size some work better for me depending on the yarn that I am using, If I had to choose a favourite it would be the Susan Bates although I do like a lot of my vintage Aero hooks ( no longer made) especially in the smaller sizes.
Great research and information Margaret. I do like the look of the Susan Bates coloured hooks. My currently growing more and more to liking my Knit Pro black handled hook (I only have one in a 5.5mm size). That gauge is a nice idea but I'm guessing it's difficult to use on some hooks (especially if they aren't "inline"?).
Hello, my name is Grace, and I discovered your channel through watching Pam Chatfield, 24 Carat Crochet, among others. I really enjoy watching your videos, and this one is quite interesting. I also like the Susan Bates hooks. In fact, when I first taught myself to crochet a little over 3 years ago, I almost gave up when using the Boye hooks, because my yarn kept slipping off the head, and my yarn kept splitting. I usually use the Bates hooks with the bamboo handle, as my hands and fingers get sore. Thanks again for the info!!
Hi, Grace! I'm glad we "found" each other! I SO get what you're saying about the Boye hooks... when I first started, I didn't realize that different hooks could make
such a difference so I thought I was doing something wrong until I
finally figured it out! So the bamboo handles make a difference, huh? Are you a knife or pencil grip crocheter?
Margaret Olander I use the knife hold, and I find the bigger handles easier on my hands - keeps them from cramping up so much. I learned how to crochet by reading books and watching You Tube about 3 1/2 years ago, and it seemed to take forever to figure out which way to hold that darn hook!! I am thrilled to have "found" you too:) You are so sweet and positive!!
I like the Bates , I can't seem to keep my stitch tension/size with the tapered hooks. When my grandma was teaching me to chain , I drove her crazy because my stitches would get tighter and tighter. 😁 I have picked up most of my hooks at garage sales so I have tried a lot of hooks. I will give them a spin and go back to Susan Bates.
Yes... me, too, yet others find them frustrating and prefer the tapered! I'm convinced it has something to do with our method. How we hold the hook and/or the angle at which we pull the loops through must be contributing factors! (That's my hypothesis at least! ❤)
@@sheepishlysharing you may be on to something 😊
Margaret just wondered if you knew of a good site that explains about knitting needle's one with cords and one that are called circular knitting needle's , and which ones to use for what projects ? Since i am so new to knitting thank's . Sorry i forgot to say i love all the information on crochet hooks it does help a lot of people new to crochet , thank's for sharing : ) toni g. : )
Well, I know that the knitting needles with cords ARE circular knitting needles! Then you have straight needles and DPNs (double pointed needles). Put "different types of knitting needles" in the RUclips search bar and you'll get all sorts of videos to choose from!
Thanks for your help ,i will search , the reason my arm was in a sling i fell and fracture my left shoulder and had 4 bone spurs and artiritis in collar bone too and a floating chip in there too they found when they fixed my left shoulder back in 4-29-2014 but i went to doctor just this tuesday i am out of sling now but i still go to therapy still to excerise the arm still : ) so now i can slowly get back to crocheting and knitting : ) again thanks for your help glad you had a good trip : ) hugs toni g.
Goodness! I'm glad to hear you're on the mend. That sounds painful.
thanks for sharing the info on the hooks! but i do prefer my boye hooks over my Susan bate, .and its not about the head/point. or the chinny chin chin! lol its all about the thumb rest. i like how there is more of a neck on the boye. and that the thumb rest is more to the middle of my hook.
Isn't it interesting how we all favor different hooks for different reasons?! I wonder why I'm so fascinated by that!!
Thanks Margaret. I'm certainly going to check out these sites.
I prefer the Susan Bates hooks, too... And ... I have some of the Luxite, which I love. The Boye just doesn't feel tight to me...
I find it so strange how we all have a preference! I think I've only met one person who said they didn't care!
+Margaret Olander (Sheepishly Sharing) well... I never really thought about it, until I watched your video... I looked at my hooks, and sure enough....the ones I preferred were SB... They look..and feel...so much better to me... It's what I learned on...
I looked at my Susan Bates and Boye hooks in size K. The Boye hook is longer than the S B hook.
Oooo.... interesting! Thanks for that observation!
I have tried the Bates, but i always split the yarn when yarn- over and drawing through
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And Susan Bates is my favorite! Isn't it funny how we all have a preference?! I'm convinced it has something to do our own individual crochet method.
Thanks for the great information! I haven't played around too much with hooks yet. I'm very glad you linked the sites so I can also look into it. By the way the second I saw the wooden hooks I too thought of Harry potter wands! hahahahaha I loved working with the luxite when I was making fruit and veggies for my mother-in-law. They really are very smooth and I felt help speed the projects up.
Aren't those luxite hooks great?! I bet people shy away from them thinking they're cheap but they definitely have their purpose!
I have both types of hooks boye and the Susan bates type (called red heart here in Canada but it has the exact same throat and head).. I actually don't have a preference I find them pretty much the same for me. I use them interchangeably and haven't noticed really any difference. The only thing I have issue with now is due to my lupus I have sore hands so I'm needing hooks with a comfort grip of some sort and those I'm finding make a difference in the grips. As for the actual hooks themselves I'm neutral. :)
Stefanie Leale Isn't it crazy how we all manage to get the same thing done but in so many different ways and with so many different preferences?! I'm glad we have options!
Due to carpel tunnel issues in my wrists. I use the lighted ones they are easier to hold and use for me
I started with boye knock offs. They were ok but hard to grip with my large hands.
Moved on to actual boye hooks and didn't like them as much as the knock offs. LOL
I quickly grew to despise them though. They were inconsistent in smoothness.
I ordered a few Bates hooks with cute handles. I've used them ONCE for one project. I didn't HATE them but I didn't love them. I was constantly snagging my yarn on that deep chin area.
For large hooks, the plastic clover amour have been my go to. They are very smooth.
But my go-to hooks that I LOVE, love, LOVE are tulip etimo. They are as smooth as a baby's butt. And the chin area is very shallow - more so than boye. But the head is larger than boye. Not as tapered as boye so you aren't tempted to over tighten your stitches.
But did I mention? Smooth as silk. I love the shallow chin because it quickly releases the yarn. I've just gotten used to keeping my yarn on the hook.
Had a set of the bamboo. Hated them passionately, though they were lovely.
It's that drag on the hook that I go to great lengths to avoid. THAT is why I love my tulips so much.
Even cheap, scratchy yarns surrender to the smoothness of the tulips.
And they've now got large size hooks too. Can't wait to try them. Mine are on their way now, from Japan. LOL
These are the only hooks I have crocheted with that are still comfy after hours of crocheting.
I love, love, LOVE that we have so many options! I tried the Tulips and were not nearly as thrilled with them as you are! We're so fortunate to be able to pick and choose. Sometimes I marvel at how we spoiled we are to be able to "click, click" on what we want and have it delivered to our door! It's it great??!!
Margaret Olander indeed! If I can get it online and not have to get dressed and go to the door, I do. LOL
And that's good in this case since stores don't seem to sell my tulips (can't understand why). Good thing I have several sets to cover all my bases.
great information! thanks for sharing it Margaret!
Is there any other inline hooks other than Susan Bates please?
To name a few: Knitter's Pride Dreamz: amzn.to/3z9t9hV Tulip Etimo: amzn.to/3fTMlsn Lewhook Ergonmic: amzn.to/3uQlKko NiArt: amzn.to/2SgsLOb You just have to do a search and then zoom into the picture to confirm that they really ARE inline and that you like the shape of the head as well. (Some are more rounded than Susan Bates.)
I have used those wonderful SB Luxite, for years! Not like plastic, at all...
Thank you for your video. It helped me a lot.
I’m so glad to hear it!
Hi good afternoon my name is Sylvia and I've got all kinds of hooks also but I love my Susan beats thank you very much for your beautiful tutorial thank you thank you very much bye-bye
You are so welcome, Sylvia!
Thank you for sending me to this video. It was very helpful. I never noticed that my bates hooks are not tapered.
Great info love bates needles and thanks so much for sharing
Find some black light reactive yarn and u can crochet in the dark
Well, then you'd have to buy a black light, too!
Have a look at the FURL HOOKS. GOOGLE Them. ILove them and they would be wonderful to pass on as a family hierloom. Look at the STREALINE FURLS. Enjoy the add-on to to your hook education? Happy hooking.
Ah, yes... we've all seen those gorgeous Furls and I'm happy to say the head is too thick for my liking. (I like more space in that upper throat area.) Why am I happy to say that??? Because they're BEAUTIFUL and I'm sure I'd want them all if they aligned with my preferences!!! Good to know about the more affordable "Streamline" version so that's a super option! And don't forget the Candy Shop hooks. Very much like the Furls but in bright, fun colors!
@@sheepishlysharing Yes, I know of the Candy Shop furls as well. They are a fun collection. I noticed that many of the the young crowd as well as the young at heart crowd like them very much and swear by them. ;-) I just mentioned the Streamline because they are the newest addition to the beautiful classic style. They are a response to the Susan Bates style of hook. The point is, well, pointier and allow you to be able to crochet faster. I used to swear by the Boye type hook until I met the Susan Bates type. I have M.S. and not having to add the extra movement to insure that the hook head doesn't split the yarn or grab parts of the stitch unneeded helps me, personally, so that I may crochet much longer before tiring or hurting. So I understand. Each crochetter has their own preference or their would not have been a desire to search for another. LoL
I had just wondered if you knew of the new Streamlines. I think that I am going to purcase a set of them in the Rosewood. After all, they do plant a tree to replenish what is cut down to make them. I may even add a Candy Shop style just to add a little color & fun to my collection. :-) Here's to enjoying the Wonderful art of Crochet.
I prefer bates hookes I find my crochet to be neater with that style. Unfortunately my husband bought me a set of hooks for my OA and RA issues and they aren't bates hooks :( while I prefer the bates these new hooks help my hands..
This is a very old video and the info is still accurate, however... In a more recent vlog, I showed how I discovered that while working on a certain large project, I put aside my preferred Susan Bates hooks and found the tapered hooks to be more helpful because of the angle I had to hold the work! I'm now a firm believer that I benefit from both styles, depending upon the project and/or need!
I find the Susan Bates hooks work so much smoother
Everyone has his/her favorites! That's for sure!
Thanks Margaret!
Love the susan bates
WHY choose one type over the other? How do they perform??
WHY choose hook over the other? Well, that's what this video is all about! Most of us have a preference and I probably has to do with our technique. Lucky you if you can comfortably use any style hook without noticing one to be an easier experience!
very informative! :)
Love this information , thanks for sharing this will help all levels of crocheters ; ) Love all those types and styles of hooks : ) Yes i love amazom on line stores too : ) I cant wait till i get the huge wood hooks : ) Great for making rugs from strips of cloth : ) My grandkids like the boyle brand better than bates brand of the crochet hooks : ) I will show my g. kids this video next time there over : ) Have great day and keep on crocheting and knitting : ) Hugs toni g. : )
I don't know why I'm so fascinated by everyone's preferences in hooks but I love hearing about it! How fun to have the grandkids share your love for yarn!
brilliant thank you x
I prefer Boye
I had no idea of the differences I’m ashamed to say!😳
Ha! I don't believe anybody does until they get a hook they find difficult to work with! Very few people have a technique that allows them to be comfortable with both so if that's YOU, you're a rare, fortunate gem!
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very non informative video. "go and research this this and specifically this" is not useful information. If you spent more time with details about why exactly you like each characteristic of hook would be much more helpful. Also, organization is helpful for viewer understanding. Only until the very end portion of this video was it informative. And not very informative at all, if that. If you're just getting here, just click on the two url's posted and skip the video. Save yourself twelve minutes and fifty-eight seconds of time you would not otherwise get back.
Oh, dear, Melissa... You totally missed the point of this video and then had a temper tantrum about it... all over crochet hooks. In a nutshell... there are 2 main types of crochet hooks and which one you'll prefer totally depends on your preference and the ONLY way to determine that is to 1) know the differences so you'll know what to look for when shopping and 2) TRY them to determine which fits your technique and that is a form of personal research. The world is tough enough without you adding to it with anger and unkindness.