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That lady was rude wasn’t she?
I love how the chocolate flashbacks get more elaborate as time goes by. I want the next April Fools video to be just a really long chocolate flashback.
Culminating in the Origins of the Gramps Choco Phobia...
Having Chocolate Bars in WW II....
Getting a box of Chocolates for a Valentine, who refused him, so he ate it alone...
Oh... add another chocolate clip to the list.
@@lokithecat7225 WWII era chocolate was awesome though, they don't make it like that anymore...
The inevitable "Understanding Chocolate" episode will be nothing but these flashbacks without any new content, but you'll have to watch 30 minutes of it before you realise.
Considering Brian usually eats fire for a living, he has an impressive sense of taste
The flames probably clear out and open his sinuses fairly well.
And absolutely no standards for what hes willing to eat
Modern Rogue: Episode [1,653]
-The year is 2035
-(Brian and Jason are consuming some sort of edible or potentially edible item.)
-(The flavor of chocolate is mentioned.)
-Jason: "I do not like chocolate so I will likely not enjoy this."
-Brian replies: "Oh, that's right. You don't like chocolate, do you? You mentioned this before."
-The episode immediately cuts to a montage of every time Jason has said he dislikes chocolate or Brian says that Jason does not like chocolate and plays them in reverse chronological order dating all the way back to the Miracle Pill episode.
-30 minutes are added to the runtime of the episode just for this segment.
-Episode returns to the topic at hand after a brief intermission.
-They taste the item.
-Brian's face lights up with delight at the taste of sweet, sweet chocolate. He exudes the delight of a small child who was given a treat for behaving themselves at a long family gathering.
-Jason scowls and grimaces as the taste of chocolate defiles his tastebuds. Truly, how could man folly so greatly to the point where this event has befallen him. Surely his life is predestined to continuously expose him to the taste he dislikes so greatly. Perhaps he could even call it a curse.
-Brian giggles with glee: "This tastes AMAZING" he says, for truly this is a great day.
-Jason glances at him, his stare is like blades sharper than the razor of Occam himself.
-Jason replies in defeat:
"I hate chocolate..."
Oh my god this writing style. You are an art.
@@Adshercott Thank you. I was inspired by the realization that the Jason doesn't like chocolate montage getting increasingly longer.
this deserves more likes
I'm glad I am not the only one who noticed how they throw all the flashback for Jason meantioning hating chocolate.
I love how the flashbacks are just continuing to nest and it just keeps getting longer and longer. I find myself cackling every time.
"I wouldn't do it that way. It sounds obnoxious." ...The look on Jason's face at 6:04 oh man. So many funny things you could do with that moment.
[Ken Burns effect zoom in]
_Hello, Darkness, my old friend…_
That's probably why he didn't do anything with it. He probably got caught up in thinking of all the shit he could do and didn't actually do any of them.
Either that or they were really bad and he couldn't risk a demonetization.
The Modern Rogues are now finally equipped for cigars and coffee in the morning and pipes and tea at lunch. And either plus whiskey for dinner!
With a good steak dinner
@@reboottheconsole998 while listening to pirate shortwave stations
Or just whiskey and beer when is hot
and swords for dessert
that sounds like a fun way to die quicker
I wish that every time they did a Jason hates chocolate montage each flashback would get increasingly darker
the Jason hates chocolate callback montage really delivered in this video
I want nothing more in this world for the I don't like chocolate inception to continue to the point where we have 10 minutes extra in any episode that Jason has to eat it
I'm detecting notes of regular bowel movements...
As someone who regularly drinks coffee, I both agree...and apologize.
I can confirm, Coffee is a Diuretic. And if you’re lactose intolerant (like me), you might choose to use almond milk instead for your creamer. And then you get kidney stones, because almonds have more Oxalate in them than almost all other foods. So then you have to go in for a lithotripsy procedure and hope that the doctor gets out all the kidney stone particles, because you really don’t want the invasive procedure that would have to follow. And then you stop drinking coffee because you don’t have any non-almond milk creamer in the house, and you lose your daily Diuretic. Which you will regret, trust me. 🤦🏻♂️
Love the description of the importance of roast and the caffeine, the oxygen need and the slurp. Wonderful soil makes incredible coffee. Love EDG coffee!
This is one of those “I don’t really care about the topic, but I’m watching it anyway because it’s the modern rogue” kind of episodes
This is my jam. She’s so cool. I’ve been in the coffee industry only for a few years, but it’s still as exciting as day one getting to hear people talk about it passionately and teaching so well
"Objective"
Eh, science it still out on that. In most tests, supposedly expert tasters -- whether we're talking coffee, wine, or whatever -- are rarely consistent in their descriptors, and often inconsistent with themselves from previous sessions. There may be some exceptions, like the few Master Sommeliers in the world, but it takes _years_ of dedicated training and tasting practically every varietal many times to even be able to get that title.
Note this isn't a huge deal when it comes to reading a coffee description and picking something that sounds good _to you._ With a little experience, you'll figure out which note descriptions describe a coffee you're likely to enjoy more versus those that don't match your preferences. But one taster's raisins and chocolate might be another taster's earthy with dried cherries. It's doubtful another would say floral with pineapple notes to the same coffee.
You know what makes any coffee taste better? Whiskey :)
I prefer my whisky straight, sir 😜
95% ethanol is even better.
Rum actually works better. As long as it's low on that banana funk.
The complete opposite of the whisky tribes' "No snobbery" mentality.
having a vocabulary isnt snobbery. in culinary school they teach things she talked about.
@@myname-mz3lo The episode starts with talking about burr grinders. It was snobby out the gate
@@natehardman7362 Burr grinders are brought up because it does matter. You guys don't know what "snobby" means apparently.
"these people know more than me.. waaaahh, snobbery!"
@@natehardman7362 She didn't explain why, or it got cut, but burr grinders crush the bean, rather than cut. That is important because it releases the oils in the bean. I've own both types of grinder and even a bad burr grinder has so much more aroma and flavor than a blade. The kitchen smells soooo much nicer.
I kind of want to see Brian's evolution on coffee making, from blowing up an espresso machine, to making a cup of coffee like a professional.
EDG Coffee has made me a coffee snob. And they just showed top level excellence when I recently became a subscriber and was mega impressed with the customer service. Basically signed up on a Tuesday, coffee arrived the next day. I'll never buy any other brand again. It's really that good. I bring it with me when I travel too. 🙌🏽
Very informative and fun. Thought they all seemed like they were having fun together.
A few fun things that I LOVED and noticed. Bringing the actual foods to taste alongside the coffee. Such a great idea. After all, you can only make comparisons vs things you already have a reference point for. The word "strong" for coffee can be sorta mixed with the word "smooth" for whiskey. You don't have a full palate built around tastes, but you wanna think of something. So Strong, smooth, bold, etc come to mind. One thing I hope they explore is cold brew. Steeping coffee beans for 24+hrs in cold water REALLY changes things. Less oils, different flavors, and so many things that could be explored as well. I live in AZ, so I tend to cold brew coffee in a pitcher I have specifically for that. I get more flavors that way then when it's hot. Less oils, so my mouth isn't as dry as well. Hot brewing coffee and adding ice is NOT the same BTW. You take those oils and expand them when adding ice. But then you just dilute it from there. So many lessons from whiskey tasting carry over to coffee or even food profiles. Gotta build that base of knowledge first!
That was lovely, I hope more coffee will come :D
Great coffee! We love EDG!
As much as this was suppose to be informative, taste and smell are subjective as taste and smell are associative to a memory. Everyone's experience is different. When she told Brian he was wrong, it rubbed me the wrong way.
As someone going through the process to be a Q(uality) grader, there is a very objective side to taste and smell. The process to Q grader teaches you to speak the exact same language on taste and smell. The subjective part of taste and smell is what does that flavor recall in your brain. I can drink a coffee and taste the same thing but not know what it is. But you can drink the same coffee, have the same flavor note but recognize it as blueberries because of your grandmas blueberry pies. She did differentiate between subjective and objective and what she was doing it that moment was showing while you say this is what the flavor recalls in your mind, this is what the flavor actually is. And he actually admits to not liking cherries and accepting that.
I don't even drink coffee (hate all bitter things. coffee, highly hopped beer, cocktails with bitters in them.) and I was kept interested this whole video. great job.
I love how Brians baited her into dissing Jason slurp 🤣
I love these kinds of videos, the whiskey then cigars, then tea, now COFFEE
Fun. Love EDG coffee!
I just love the cuts to EVERY time Jason says he hates chocolate. Its the best running joke!
Honest question.
Sip 1. Tastes like coffee.
Reads description. Has notes of such and such.
Sip 2. Yep, now I can taste it.
Aren’t you finding it, because you’re looking for it?
Daniel from the Whiskey Vault/Tribe points this out all the time. He will ask what they taste, then mention a particular taste and they would immediately taste it.
I absolutely love the Jason hating chocolate flashbacks within flashbacks... Amazing...
I'm glad that there's no slurp-shaming in this episode
I love how the callbacks just keep getting a deeper and deeper dive, lmao
Y’all were VIBRATING by the end of this.
12:51Interesting that Brian Mentioned Chocolate
Coffee is actually a really common additive to chocolate products, as it intensifies the flavour
So he was actually pretty spot on in that description
What a fun show. I’m so gonna have to watch more of these guys. Tuned in to see my friend Christie do her thing. = )))
EDG is an amazing company. From the way they treat their farmers in Nicaragua to the care and knowledge to make sure what ends up in your cup is of the highest quality.
The way these two get so excited about every topic they do is so amusing.
I love it when a new guest comes on yalls channel. They are never prepared for whats to come. And the reaction are priceless. Lol
Jason and Daniel VS. Rex and Brian. This should be a thing. Rogue Olympics? Whiskey Olympics part two?
I domt think Jason drinks alcohol anymore. I know he used to, but for a while now he doesn't drink any alcohol. Sometimes he doesn't even feature in the episodes that focus on alcohol anymore. Maybe he has had his struggles with alcohol and if he has more power to him.
Last Whiskey Olympics didn’t even have whiskey in them.
@@Dyecast568 well maybe they did and maybe they didn't, but either way I am not man enough to admit I'm wrong.
@@brennanscarcello1443 ok? Weird…
I love that whenever they mention chocolate on the show they cut back to every other time they mentioned chocolate before
3:28 “It's all in the grind Sizemore. Can't be too fine, can't be too coarse. This, my friend, is a science.”
Great Episode Fellas, Keep It Up!
As a coffee lover, this was awesome! More please.
As someone who loves chocolate, I apologize for giggling so much every time that clip comes up.
Jason: "I HATE chocolate..."
Hey guys! Long time caller, first time listener here.
Could you maybe make a video on roasting beans at home? Imagine the rogue-points you can achieve by knowing how to buy beans, roast them, grind them, and pull an amazing cup!
I see you, Jason. "I definitely get the nutty-ness" *stares directly into the camera*
I think she's making it up as she goes too. 🤣😂
1:30~ 1:59~
Caffeine sublimates (turns from solid to gas, like dry ice to CO2 gas) at 150℃ (302°F), so the darker the bean is roasted, the more caffeine leaves the bean as a gas in the process.
I like that you automatically go to the most annoying slurping you can do and go with that method. I don't know why it just speaks to me on some primal level.
I followed along tasting the coffee I drink at a daily basis, and I got:
orange peel, cooked apple, caramel, pecan ~ almond, dark chocolate, tobacco, and black tea.
1:48 - You could say it was a 'light roast'
Ba dum tss
She knows a lot about coffee? I love her!
I watched somewhere that you want to slurp it that way since the bitter taste buds are farther back in the tongue, so I guess the speed matters not much the bubbling sound
That's not really why we do it (not a Q grader like her but I work at a roastery and cup coffees a lot). It really is to spread it all out on the tongue evenly and "airate" it (the oxygen thingy she talkes about) so that we actually get the entire taste spectrum. If it's overly bitter, we want to know that, if it's overly acidic we want to know that etc so we drink it in a way where we are able to taste as many flaws in the coffee as possible
A little disappointed we didn't get to see a James Hoffman crossover, but still great that the crew covered coffee
Whenever people start talking about subtle flavour notes, I wonder how much of it is psychosomatic. Someone told me this coffee grew next to a coconut tree, so now I taste notes of coconut because I think that flavour should be there.
Hey, please talk about the difference between robusta, arabica and varius blends between the two.
I personally enjoy a medium-dark roast of robusta only. Sweet and bold, brings up earthy notes of dark sugar and dried smoky plums.
5:36
C: "you're gonna do this really obnoxious slurp."
B: "I'm already all in on this!"
i cant be the only one screaming for a new picnic table lol
I am so glad the boys are doing content that I have expertise in!
I love that they keep adding more clips to Jason's hatred of chocolate
Murphy's face in the thumbnail is a definite mood. 😂
Damn, barley 2 minutes in and I'm already learning something! I always thought it was the other way around...
Aeropress is what I use.
"that looks like a science thing" it is called a "Chemex" coffee maker (similar to the phrase Chemistry Extractor).
3:10 misunderstanding. He asked if freshly harvested or dried coffee beans smell like coffee or if it is only after they have been roasted. I really wanted to know that answer.
Jason's right about chocolate.
Supposedly it's supposed to bee good for your bones and joints also to put the egg shells in your coffee, so there's a thing to try
I really wonder how one prepares for cupping, because obviously the state of your mouth matters: you should probably rinse your mouth with clean water and even brush your teeth (without toothpaste, not to rush your tongue receptors and ruin the whole experience). What else can you advice?
I need this job
I'm gonna go back to just boiling coffee directly in a pot on the stove like the adults did when I was a kid
I only remembered halfway through the closeups that Jason hated chocolate, that was a strange experience at first.
I made instant coffee and was browsing what to watch. Oh, Modern Rogue has a new video! Advanced coffee, what's that?
Only partly related, but where do I get Jason's t-shirt from the promos?
I'd love to see a few episodes wherein there are punishments for the loser of a competition; for Jason, it would clearly be a square of high-quality dark chocolate. For Brian...well, you guys know better than I.
You guys should do a video on Poker games, like a scoundrel's guide to poker.
Took a week long course.... I've been drinking coffee for 20 years....
Did Jason get beaten up by some oompa loompas wielding chocolate baseball bats when he was a kid or something? I can't think of any other reason that someone wouldn't like chocolate. I have met 2 or 3 people in my life that don't actively enjoy chocolate but they don't dislike it!
I love that out of all the weird stuff they both do this is the only one I've seen people be weirded out by 😂
I also dislike chocolate to a rather high degree. Milk chocolate is ok, but chocolate cookies, Chocolate cake, Oreos, chocolate syrup, chocolate milk are all disgusting to me 🤢 I feel for poor Jason.
Been asking for a coffee episode for years, good
Curated Tasting Experience the only type of CTE that doesn't cause you brain damage.
It's my 40th birthday today! Who wants cake? 🥳🎂🥂
Is there a community like this but for homebrew soda? I feel like soda could have very complex flavors but it has become so manufactured now. idk
New vid let’s go
Poor Jason. Such a funny scenario though. They were so oblivious to him for the longest time XD
Very end: Eggshells? I crack [figuratively] a whole [tempered] egg into my coffee lol Sometimes just the yolk.
I wonder how many Whiskey Tribe members are watching this video and getting their panties in a twist over Jason calling the fragrance 'smooth' at 19:03
Lol she's out here actually tasting the coffee, focusing on oxygen intake of all things.
Meanwhile I just slam the entire mug in one go 🤪
Also coffee just tastes like coffee. Even when I'm actually drinking it slowly, it just tastes like coffee. Never had "notes of X" lol.
I don't know if that says more about you or the coffee you drink.
@@JediSentinal If you get your coffee from somewhere like Starbucks, it all just tastes like burned coffee. That's intentional. They can't control the beans from season to season or year to year, so they just burn them to the same flavor.
I hate chocolate too! THANK GOD IM NOT ALONE
The caffeine level doesn't change that much between light and dark roast that's a big misconception.
Oh... add another chocolate clip to the list.
On the next episode of The Modern Rogue; 'We Put Eggshells In Our Coffee'.
What about the brewing, teach us the measurements.
Austin!!
Yes?
Yeah, if you’re in Austin and looking for another good place to do coffee, I really like Trianon. Well, liked - I haven’t been there in a couple of years (for obvious reasons), so I don’t know for sure that they’re still in business.
The atmosphere is not all oxygen ffs
I'm pretty sure she meant aeration. Yeah she kind of discredited herself as an expert by not using the correct terminology.
Me, who doesn't drink coffee: Interesting 🤔
So you're telling me that coffee can taste like something other than burnt popcorn?
Is next escaped going to be the modern rogue understands cologne and gets sponsored by scentbird
LOL I was waiting for someone to inhale the slurp and drown trying to get as much oxygen as possible. 😂
Jason I’m with you I don’t like chocolate either
6:10 *cough* "Should not inhale...." *cough*
No, because you haven't inhaled worse things over the course of your life, Brian. *smashcut to Brian and Jason inhaling/vaping alcohol, breathing in chemical fumes, tear gassing and pepper spraying themselves, Brian eating fire, and the shit-flavored mutant goo from the Worst Aid Kit.
A friend of mine = Daniel.
Wrong. Light roast doesn't meant most caffeine. Whether light, medium, dark roasts, the caffeine content stays the same almost. If there will be differences it will only be miniscule amount in a way you won't even notice it. Caffeine is a stubborn compound and it doesn't degrade easily during the roasting process.
This would be better if they did a cupping method.
COFFEE EPISODES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think she got confused. FRAGRANCE is the “dry”, AROMA is the “wet”
did she just say aroma oxygen i am so confused
Sriracha! *raises glass*
Not the biggest fan of Christy, she isnt terrible or anything, but just wasnt vibing with her
I was waiting for a vibe like the tea episode ..
Same
James Hoffman definitely does the best job of teaching all of these sorts of things about coffee without being pretentious or snobbish, which were the notes I was picking up while watching this
@@voidstar.studio Yeah I don't drink coffee but I watch James' videos on the subject because I like them. His video on soup ingredient "grind" size was revolutionary and has implications that may change soup recipes as we know them!
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@@evilcanofdrpepper I was confused for a moment, and thought he was putting coffee in soup. Which could be awesome, but not what that was.