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  • KOTD Rap Battle #Gastown2 - The Saurus vs Chedda Cheese
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Комментарии • 489

  • @TheSaurusWins
    @TheSaurusWins 8 лет назад +174

    pure fire. thanks for watching & sharing yall

    • @DannyFlorioNYC
      @DannyFlorioNYC 8 лет назад +2

      You killed it again!!!! Thesaurus is on another level

    • @missingscenes8083
      @missingscenes8083 8 лет назад

      Watching you for years now, you stay amazing, this was fire! @Quality CLEAN PERFORMANCE - Cheddar also super nice LAUGHED M A OOOFFF

    • @mikhailferreria2630
      @mikhailferreria2630 8 лет назад +2

      @TheSaurusWins You are the Dean Malenko of battle rap. Consistent in every match.

    • @VisserJoost
      @VisserJoost 8 лет назад

      huge huge shouts out from the Netherlands. Keep going, keep going !.... You're still putting out pure nectar #trueOG #battleraphistory #realhiphop

    • @jimmy6700
      @jimmy6700 8 лет назад

      Gimme your ring.

  • @CheddaCheeseMusic
    @CheddaCheeseMusic 8 лет назад +118

    Glad most of you guys are enjoying this battle, it was definitely a fun one. Also I have a bunch of music videos and songs on this channel if you feel like checking them out. New stuff coming very soooon

    • @Drupp12
      @Drupp12 8 лет назад +8

      don't quit your day job homie

    • @flamboyantamo
      @flamboyantamo 8 лет назад +3

      +Drupp12
      yet you watched him.
      you mad homie ?

    • @Drupp12
      @Drupp12 8 лет назад

      flamboyantamo -chedda cheese

    • @Drupp12
      @Drupp12 8 лет назад +2

      Chuck Jones hahah okay chuck and what are you doing in life? Same shit as me working a day job FOR LIFE so congrats you played yourself!

    • @chuckieboy7750
      @chuckieboy7750 5 лет назад +2

      Lol how can u hate on someone with a pen like that. He doesn't appeal to u apparently but u can't deny the kids a dope fuckin writer

  • @thellama3239
    @thellama3239 8 лет назад +70

    The Saurus is seriously so consistent its fucking crazy. After this many years of battling how do you even think of bars anymore?

    • @hankhill2832
      @hankhill2832 8 лет назад

      worrd

    • @jabzn9536
      @jabzn9536 8 лет назад

      Very good point dude

    • @masterroshi6910
      @masterroshi6910 8 лет назад +1

      Yeah honestly it's pretty crazy, he wins about half his battles but I've never seen him get swept before, always puts up a good fight

    • @cliffnasa3560
      @cliffnasa3560 8 лет назад

      thats what im saying

    • @aprylvanryn5898
      @aprylvanryn5898 6 лет назад

      I personally think deemsy got him 3-0

  • @ftwkorn
    @ftwkorn 8 лет назад +79

    If the hosts were any more canadian they'd literally be maple syrup

    • @robertbelanger8219
      @robertbelanger8219 8 лет назад +1

      I'm crying 😂😂😂

    • @Commend33
      @Commend33 8 лет назад

      Those Canadians....

    • @thegodinhere
      @thegodinhere 8 лет назад

      lmao

    • @marileelee9381
      @marileelee9381 8 лет назад +2

      It's too early to be laughing this hard

    • @Commend33
      @Commend33 8 лет назад

      Var iety Not at all, because I was referring to Those Canadians. If I was anymore Canadian, I'd be the strongest spirit inside a savage tribe of First Nations People; not Fucking around

  • @cstricklin7459
    @cstricklin7459 8 лет назад +15

    The Saurus' in battle reactions are one of my favorite things about battle rap. Never gets old.

  • @pEr5on4LLy
    @pEr5on4LLy 8 лет назад +31

    Where the fuck did THIS come from? Aight, let's GOOOOO!

    • @bradoates3843
      @bradoates3843 8 лет назад +1

      Right ? Lmao

    • @fishscaleP
      @fishscaleP 8 лет назад

      This mos def one of dem secret battles, lol

    • @VisserJoost
      @VisserJoost 8 лет назад

      #littlegem

    • @QuietStormAngel
      @QuietStormAngel 8 лет назад +1

      you know what rhymes with samuel fox?????????????
      man -sell- rocks

    • @QuietStormAngel
      @QuietStormAngel 8 лет назад

      you know what rhymes with no??????
      VAGINA

  • @MusiColeMF
    @MusiColeMF 8 лет назад +21

    That senior discount line from Ched's first was BARS

    • @camsterdam3896
      @camsterdam3896 6 лет назад

      Get a round , fossil fuels , etc... Chedda got bars for days... great battle...

  • @ArrtusMusic
    @ArrtusMusic 8 лет назад +19

    Chedda is super talented, wish he battled more often!

  • @precogunitking
    @precogunitking 8 лет назад +9

    The Saurus never afraid to laugh at an opponent's punches. Another victory for him, Cheese was cool though.

  • @TheRealRedWolf
    @TheRealRedWolf 8 лет назад +4

    GOD DAMN!! THIS IS FIRE!! Keep up with these fire battles. Astounding performance from both battlers.

  • @daniellatkowsky6284
    @daniellatkowsky6284 8 лет назад +9

    Chedda's second, on time limits: YES. PREACH.

  • @daber2000
    @daber2000 2 года назад +9

    I had to come here for a bit of light and humor into my soul after learning of Pat's passing. The intelligence and honor displayed constantly in battle rap is what made me a fan. Pat being taken from us makes me mournful beyond what I ever thought possible as a fan. RIP Pat, king forever.

  • @junglejunkies
    @junglejunkies 8 лет назад +6

    Chedda would have beat anybody else, but saurus came with some fire ass bars and schemes. The consistency was like "respect my experience" type of deliveries. Good shit man.

  • @ruckdane
    @ruckdane 8 лет назад +12

    I love Chedda Cheese, this battle was dope af. Saurus really came with it for Chedda

  • @FrankyGomez661
    @FrankyGomez661 8 лет назад +8

    Chedda's the king of awkward round endings haha

  • @JamesSweeper
    @JamesSweeper 8 лет назад +5

    It's literally impossible to not like the Saurus. He's put in so much to the scene and no veteran has been more consistent. I can't think of any terrible performances or as much as a year of absence from him. Which is shocking for how long he's been around. It's one thing to once be a father of the scene but Saurus is probably the only one who's never disappointed or disappeared. Win or lose Saurus deserves all the respect from the scene.
    Cheddar coming out of the dark lately, it's about time.

  • @jackals1982
    @jackals1982 7 лет назад +3

    very good battle thanks to both.

  • @CHAMPl982
    @CHAMPl982 8 лет назад +11

    that camera angles has Saurus looking like Dan Henderson.

    • @Microwavegreese
      @Microwavegreese 8 лет назад

      fax

    • @CHAMPl982
      @CHAMPl982 8 лет назад

      +frankie cerezo ctfu. thought I was the only one

    • @Microwavegreese
      @Microwavegreese 8 лет назад

      +BORNCHAMP I ain't gon lie I was over looking it till I read your comment , and I immediately paused the shit I was dyin.

    • @CHAMPl982
      @CHAMPl982 8 лет назад +1

      +frankie cerezo ctfu. I was waiting for a H bomb on life lmfgdaooooo

    • @CHAMPl982
      @CHAMPl982 8 лет назад +2

      +damien delawder HENDO !!!!!

  • @smutjunkies559
    @smutjunkies559 2 года назад +2

    The Asian guy in the front row is having the time of his life and I'm happy as fuck for him.

  • @CharlieLeyva
    @CharlieLeyva 8 лет назад +18

    You'll never be the GOAT cheese.

  • @Doctor-Stoppage
    @Doctor-Stoppage 3 года назад +1

    This is a perfect battle. Two intensely and original battle MC's going at it. A crowd that actually listens, doesn't scream during their rhymes. Cheddar and Thesaurus are amazing.

  • @zerozebra
    @zerozebra 8 лет назад +1

    to summarize this battle:
    - ive heard that buckle under pressure line before
    - chedda has similar delivery as rone now
    saurus wins

  • @koalaukania9486
    @koalaukania9486 3 года назад +2

    That brick and mortar bar hits different for the mason Union workers who are nerds

  • @tyeegrabarcyzk5157
    @tyeegrabarcyzk5157 8 лет назад +21

    I love and respect the saurus because he loves listening to his opponents rounds. That's what makes a good battler to me. Not just posing a mean mug during the entire battle.

    • @tripleb5216
      @tripleb5216 8 лет назад

      Factz!

    • @FrankyGomez661
      @FrankyGomez661 8 лет назад

      "GAH-BIJ"
      - Bigg K

    • @DBlockKTV
      @DBlockKTV 8 лет назад

      +FrankyGomez661 YOU TRASH, YOU BAHBIJ!

    • @FrankyGomez661
      @FrankyGomez661 8 лет назад

      Delonte Nolan hahaha I dont like that shit either he's just the definition of what tyee said, he acts like no one's spit a dope bar in front of him before

    • @tyeegrabarcyzk5157
      @tyeegrabarcyzk5157 8 лет назад +1

      watch him against fresco, he literally LOVES all of Fresco's bars.

  • @dannystevens2900
    @dannystevens2900 8 лет назад +8

    Cheddar cheese is actually sick people hating are stupid

    • @scottlarrabee467
      @scottlarrabee467 8 лет назад

      He's not though.

    • @justiceleague6428
      @justiceleague6428 8 лет назад

      +Scott Larrabee he is though.

    • @FlyHighTeck
      @FlyHighTeck 8 лет назад

      That battle was dope. Only thing I didn't like about Chedda was that he had short rounds!

  • @skrewylewy3259
    @skrewylewy3259 8 лет назад +2

    two of my fav mc's
    finally it happened

  • @nickyrobinson1742
    @nickyrobinson1742 5 лет назад +1

    I'm so sick of ppl sayin joke bars r wack, hysterical, & so much more fun to rewatch than them fake violent tough guys 👿

  • @6Foot4Honda
    @6Foot4Honda 8 лет назад +6

    i love cheddas parodies XD

    • @V.O.Y.S.
      @V.O.Y.S. 3 года назад

      Know this is old but if you liked his old music his new stuff is dope and under is real name shea Michael

  • @p00nski.gaming
    @p00nski.gaming 8 лет назад +1

    "Bad Poutine. It never occurred (curd) to cheese that it wasn't all gravy." so good...

  • @JodieMayo
    @JodieMayo 8 лет назад +1

    Cheddas painting scheme was amazing man. One of the most underrated battlers ever.

  • @mc9828
    @mc9828 7 лет назад +2

    chedda is incredible

  • @ianterada6821
    @ianterada6821 8 лет назад +8

    I love The Saurus cause he vibes off his opponents and gives props to their good bars and shit.

  • @og1072
    @og1072 8 лет назад +20

    say what you want, but Thesaurus is a legend

    • @dio4480
      @dio4480 8 лет назад +1

      i don't think many would disagree

    • @fadedgwalla4589
      @fadedgwalla4589 8 лет назад

      his only flaw is he names a lot of unheard of people in his punch lines

    • @joeMama-yx4vt
      @joeMama-yx4vt 8 лет назад

      Nobody said he wasn't, lame ass way to get likes my dude

    • @og1072
      @og1072 8 лет назад +2

      joe Mama​ lmao 😂 I could care less about likes. If I did, I'd be commenting "notification gang" on every video. Some people actually think he sucks and/or isn't a legend because he isn't a URL battle rapper. "Lame ass" assumption "my dude".

  • @SikeNawGaming
    @SikeNawGaming 8 лет назад +4

    Thesaurus 2nd round was fire, he was talking to that young man! lol

  • @Rone7
    @Rone7 8 лет назад +5

    The Saurus 3-0. Old dude got bars.

    • @bvsandman
      @bvsandman 8 лет назад +1

      Fuck outta here with that fuck boy shit. Chedda spit fire.

    • @Zmad724
      @Zmad724 8 лет назад

      Chedda had a dope 2nd round, but get real (and I'm a Chedda and TheSaurus fan) but TheSaurus roasted him.

    • @bvsandman
      @bvsandman 8 лет назад

      Zachary Madden I felt round 1 was mid level for both of them, Chedda may have edged it. Second round was hands down TheSaurus, and the 3rd round I may have edged it to Chedda. There is no clear winner IMO, except for the fans.

  • @ThugNinja
    @ThugNinja 6 лет назад +3

    Chedda actually did pretty good jmo

  • @griffinatkinson1401
    @griffinatkinson1401 8 лет назад +2

    cheddas always been one of my favourites to watch just kills me every punch, also the saurus goat cheese line was unreal

  • @MrKeepthebeatz
    @MrKeepthebeatz 8 лет назад +2

    The Saurus had some coffin sealers in the second.

  • @brandonjames9536
    @brandonjames9536 8 лет назад +1

    Great battle by both,audience was great,good all around,

  • @BoyGeorgiaX
    @BoyGeorgiaX 8 лет назад

    1st - Chedda
    2nd - Thesaurus
    3rd - Thesaurus
    Chedda's first verse was the best most entertaining out of the lot.
    Good battle.

  • @UZIUZI10000
    @UZIUZI10000 8 лет назад +2

    You can definitely see the experience showing,
    But the 7 times better bar was good
    Saurus 3-0

  • @WallabeeKing
    @WallabeeKing 8 лет назад +1

    Thesaurus bodied Chedda so bad, I thought a host was about to faint or some shit.

  • @chuckieboy7750
    @chuckieboy7750 5 лет назад +2

    Man my free time got a time limit, so if it's not ur best work don't waste my time with it...bars

  • @jraymond1988
    @jraymond1988 8 лет назад +1

    This is one of the best Thesaurus that I've seen in a while. And I heard that he was this good against QP. Hope he has a battle at WD6.

  • @tyronelol
    @tyronelol 8 лет назад +3

    Any bar to do with dinosaurs and the prehistoric ages is played out with thesaurus.. Already seen 20 battlers do the angle better.

  • @BloodPreist
    @BloodPreist 8 лет назад +1

    Loved it, great battle

  • @marcgoldberg3965
    @marcgoldberg3965 8 лет назад +2

    I see you Thesaurus with the Gracie BJJ bars

  • @dandrechesterfield5411
    @dandrechesterfield5411 8 лет назад +5

    Chedda Cheese is awful. His music is even worse

  • @annamiller4114
    @annamiller4114 8 лет назад +1

    Thesaurus's spastic head nods annoy the shit out of me. Like do you have turrets, my dude?

    • @bambamtamtamwamawm4134
      @bambamtamtamwamawm4134 8 лет назад +3

      yes should upgrade turrets to level 2 or his defense might fall to the high elves

  • @BattleRapResume
    @BattleRapResume 8 лет назад +4

    The Saurus is the greatest. This is such a good battle

  • @bradoates3843
    @bradoates3843 8 лет назад

    Dope Battle. Both ends brought it. Also a good crowd.

  • @dxc44
    @dxc44 8 лет назад

    1st - Chedda
    2nd - Saurus
    3rd - Chedda
    Good battle both were fire

  • @Lytsout193
    @Lytsout193 8 лет назад +1

    Saurus was dope, Chedda needs to update that old sketch menace type of style.

  • @jpzjaypeezy
    @jpzjaypeezy 8 лет назад +2

    no matter the rounds, chedda loses automatically cuz he did a song called "white guy shuffle" on his "dairy section" mixtape.

  • @nvrtkn
    @nvrtkn 8 лет назад

    Reminded me of the Pig Destroyer clip where the mic broke.
    Not nearly as badass, but still reminded me of that.

  • @supajc757
    @supajc757 8 лет назад +1

    funnest battle of 2016. big ups to both them

  • @davidwiedenkeller8013
    @davidwiedenkeller8013 8 лет назад +1

    This was such an entertaining battle, The Saurus's second was crazy.

  • @DarrenT777
    @DarrenT777 8 лет назад +1

    the auto tunes all those tunes line sounded like something philly swain would say

  • @ayobamigbadamosi2334
    @ayobamigbadamosi2334 8 лет назад +2

    TheSauraus brings out the best in his opponents

  • @djmrnelson
    @djmrnelson 7 лет назад +1

    I call it a tie. 1st round Chedda. 2nd round thesaurus. last one ....both were subpar. tie.

  • @MsMiniDope
    @MsMiniDope 8 лет назад +2

    Dope battle... Battle rap fans win 3-0

  • @gregholmes6083
    @gregholmes6083 8 лет назад +1

    I'm sorry, Cheese is not garbage but he's pretty wack. He raps exactly like you would think he did by looking at him. Too timid for battling, The Saurus didn't even have to try. I have no idea how Chedda got this far but then again, it's 2016. Everything music wise is baffling.

  • @tommyc1970
    @tommyc1970 8 лет назад

    Great showing from both! The Riddler has put on a bit of weight behind The Saurus.

  • @LyingFawk
    @LyingFawk 8 лет назад

    The Saurus looks like a roadkill version of Parappa the Rapper

  • @AcidropOSY
    @AcidropOSY 8 лет назад

    Any battle that has thesaurus doing rebuttals back and forth is an instant classic

  • @vicras9125
    @vicras9125 8 лет назад +1

    storm trooper hat was fire

  • @victorcachu7998
    @victorcachu7998 8 лет назад

    that "Lonely island" bar!!!!!!! I literally had to pause the battle. lol

  • @TheCoolmandingo
    @TheCoolmandingo 8 лет назад +1

    Great battle!

  • @jbin2424
    @jbin2424 8 лет назад

    The Storm Trooper in the background shaking his head had me dying.

  • @o0GreedyG0o
    @o0GreedyG0o 8 лет назад

    Ch-Ch... Saurus 3-zip. 2nd and 3rd in particular were brutal. Saurus is that fucker that's got effortless material for all occasions; had it locked down to the point where even the simple cheese flips were crushing.

  • @posajnejkwahb
    @posajnejkwahb 8 лет назад +1

    Aint nobody buying that Cheddar album

  • @GhostHyperhex
    @GhostHyperhex 7 лет назад +1

    Why Willie B sounding like organic lmao

  • @despairedi
    @despairedi 8 лет назад

    Is this crowd full of rap fans that have never heard a battle before, there reactions are..crazy for the bars.

  • @walthug607
    @walthug607 8 лет назад

    whenever the saurus finally retires from battle rap, i think he could find a career as a face double for Robert England in the freddy kruger movies

  • @MistahMas
    @MistahMas 8 лет назад +2

    goat cheese vs tha goat

  • @eddiedontess8585
    @eddiedontess8585 8 лет назад +2

    TheSaurus is too technical with it. On a different level than Chedda. Good, entertaining battle tho

  • @villeporttila5161
    @villeporttila5161 8 лет назад

    That third round locker bar from Thesaurus was insane

  • @MaxBerson
    @MaxBerson 8 лет назад

    I happened to be eating a cheddar cheese quesadilla when this popped up in my YT feed. Nice.

  • @scottlarrabee467
    @scottlarrabee467 8 лет назад +4

    Chedda cheese loses because his name is chedda cheese

  • @SkyBlew
    @SkyBlew 8 лет назад +1

    Fire battle! The Saurus got it 2-1 (debatable 3-0). Chedda still dope tho and Saurus is a legend, still killing it!

  • @zaytime4156
    @zaytime4156 8 лет назад +2

    Saurus 3-0 easily. Cheese had some bars tho

  • @MartinDaniell7
    @MartinDaniell7 8 лет назад +1

    Nice battle gents. 👏👏👏 TheSaurus 2-1 for me after the first watch - first & third.

  • @bigbrain221
    @bigbrain221 8 лет назад +2

    Chedda 3-0 no body. Classic battle that wont get nearly enough views.

    • @Rone7
      @Rone7 8 лет назад +1

      chedda was dirt bruh

  • @elmaschingon5671
    @elmaschingon5671 8 лет назад +1

    Thesaurus 3-0 and his 2nd round was fire!

  • @pasajerodelabrujula8261
    @pasajerodelabrujula8261 8 лет назад +1

    McLovin vs The Suarus

  • @noname-ve7wo
    @noname-ve7wo 8 лет назад

    glad to see a match i think i would never see. i love it. kotd thank you again.

  • @WallStreetKing
    @WallStreetKing 8 лет назад +5

    cringe hosts

    • @meepsheep3655
      @meepsheep3655 8 лет назад

      forsure man, 2nd guy was dick ridding hard... good battle though non the less!

    • @scottlarrabee467
      @scottlarrabee467 8 лет назад

      Hosts? What about the battlers? Lol

    • @meepsheep3655
      @meepsheep3655 8 лет назад

      Scott Larrabee compared to the hosts its not even in the same ball park lmao

  • @mattc4053
    @mattc4053 8 лет назад +1

    Now this is a battle 🙌 they both did there thing but I'm gonna have to go Saurus 3-0 , chedda was nice tho better performance then some "top tier" battlers.

  • @LegendaryTony.
    @LegendaryTony. 8 лет назад +1

    This was fire.

  • @mrlogick1098
    @mrlogick1098 8 лет назад

    Before I watch, thesaurus is a legend in my book.
    Always prepared with three solid rounds no matter what
    2x everything

  • @johnoswald4446
    @johnoswald4446 8 лет назад

    Mr 2x Everything and then some 3-0, and Chedda was going hard. Just not enough to beat a ledgen. Great battle 2 thumbs up....

  • @martinsilva3338
    @martinsilva3338 8 лет назад +1

    finally a good crowd

  • @pEr5on4LLy
    @pEr5on4LLy 8 лет назад +2

    The Saurus 2-1. 2nd and 3rd

  • @sanitary103
    @sanitary103 8 лет назад

    entertaining battle but Thesaurus got it. I like Chedda but he'll need to throw in more personals if he wants to beat tougher competition.

  • @Pholymei
    @Pholymei 8 лет назад +1

    1st: Chedda, 2nd: Saurus, 3rd: Chedda
    Chedda 2-1

    • @axleprose4399
      @axleprose4399 8 лет назад

      +Bob Marlon so just watched round 1...chedda got it

    • @mobspeak
      @mobspeak 8 лет назад

      HAHAHAHAHAHA....!!!! is that a joke?!

  • @cassion1289
    @cassion1289 8 лет назад

    Love kotd canada crowds, so much energy and positive even when the bars aint that hard

  • @oscargar63
    @oscargar63 8 лет назад +1

    Thesaurus got the W in this one!

  • @ThaGearOfWar
    @ThaGearOfWar 8 лет назад

    Am I the only one that saw Nocando in the intro? =O He needs to make a comeback.

  • @hooliganxborofrontline4177
    @hooliganxborofrontline4177 8 лет назад +1

    i dont think chedda understands how bad his name is. imagine sum1 not in the scene asks what you watching and u reply an acapella rap battle with... erm.. sum1 called chedda cheese.

  • @jakedee507
    @jakedee507 8 лет назад +1

    Shit, Chedda you're my guy and all, but you just got smoked. What happened?