I agree with gameboy_legend, but can you possibly add to it? More specifically can you find roughly how much an additional wingspan inch is equivalent to vertical? For example, I’m thinking of making a big man build. But I can’t decide if a 7’10 wingspan with 87 vertical will be better than an 8’1 wingspan with 71 vertical. And if I am lacking with the smaller build will HOF rebound chaser make up for the lack of height? I love your videos, your doing a great job!
BROOOOOOOOO thank you for these videos. I'm almost done building my rebirth, a 6'9 PF. I just need to know about 2 stats to complete it. I'm debating lowering them both. BLOCKs and VERTICAL!!!! Blocks are crazy this year, so hard to block peoples shot so is it even worth going up to 82?????? or put it down to 75 just to get gold chase down badge. I'm looking at being between 70-80 Vertical. Currently at 75 but I'm about to bring it down to 70 unless your video changes my mind!! Really looking forward to Blocks and vertical video from you. I NEED IT lol, thanks!!!!!!!!
man, editing this, had to not be any fun lmao. Definitely worth a like. Great work dude. In a world of clickbait and shit 2k creators, you are a bright light 😭
Really good content, straight to the point, no clickbaiting, and easy to understand Keep up the great work, one of the few 2k content creators that I watch and recommend
I've been watching a lot of build videos and what badges do this or that and you are the only one I know taking an actual scientific, provable methodology to this. Everyone else shows them kicking butt in park and just bragging up their builds (as if that proves anything) but you are actually putting in the work to show off what all the skills and badges mean. And you have a sub from me for it! 👍
Thanks for the appreciation my friend. I always believe there''s a lot of placebo effect and randomness in the park which can alter results so I'm trying not to trust my observations in there haha. There are some players though who can do it though
i got two builds at the same SPEED.... but one has zero acceleration upgraded.... the zero accel is slow af on defense. maybe it has something to do with lateral quickness?
@@nba2ktutes tutes I hate to ask since it’s in the video but would it be worth it, as a dribbler/ball handler to move my accel from 86-90? I see the trend between the 25-62-99 intervals but I’m curious if I’m better off sparing the 4 accel extra. I could either have 92 speed with ball, 85 speed and 86 accel Or 91 speed with ball, 82 speed and 90 accel. (I like to speedboost out of dribbles a lot)
@@nba2ktutes could you compare a (70 accel + QFS HoF) vs. (90 Accel No Badge) I’m convinced the logic in this game is broken when it comes to acceleration.
Tutes, I just wanted to thank you for your thoroughness and for taking the time to break down WHY you use the data points you use. For anyone just tuning in, this video would be the perfect orientation for them. Keep making that 🔥.
Hey Tutes! By anychance do you know if jumpshot ratings are similar with their correlated ratings? Might be inaccurate but let's say. Rudy Gay - Release height A+ Vs Lary bird - Release height A+ Like statistically are they the same? Give out the same output/outcome? Or are they just more for the esthetics.
THANK YOU!!! I’ve been wondering about this for awhile Tutes. These breakdowns of physical stats are extremely helpful for players coming from Current Gen and still playing around with the builder. More physical stats coming soon I hope 👀🙏
First Tutes I appreciate all your content thank you for what you do! This year it absolutely affects quick starts and stops when off the ball, I made a SG with 90 speed and 75 acceleration with 71 perimeter defense and he feels much slower than my PG who has 82 speed with 92 acceleration and 52 perimeter defense Max out your acceleration this year guys, this example makes sense, if you’re on running in a straight line, but quick movements off ball on offense and defense i noticed a big difference in reaction time and quickness Just my own personal observation my SG is a puresharp 99 3ball 30 shooting badges my PG is a pure playmaker 96 passing 31 playmaking badges
Yes this is 100% true. Spent hours testing different center builds in builder, and the builds I tested with higher acceleration react better to movement changes on defense. Helped me get more blocks because I could react faster
I've been watching your videos for a few years now. I love your approach to testing important aspects of the game and the way you present your content.
So acceleration doesn’t affect defense or for non primary ball handlers? Cuz I’m boutta make a pure lock who’ll just shoot and pass and will be able to finish at the rim if I have to
I have a question if I have a center that’s max height max weight would I be able to sacrifice some of my builds strength because of how heavy my build is or is that not how it works?
Blessup Tutes....ok have a 6'1 pg with 86 speed and Accl, and im noticing after i either grab a rebound or attempt to grab the rebound and when I land ive notice there is a delay on my player before i can run up the court....maybe its because of the speed and accl is low? but it mostly happens after jumping in the air for a rebound and dont grab it the delay is noticeable....
I got a 6’8 dribbler he’s sf slasher that can shoot what should I put my acceleration too the max is 80 but i don’t want to go the max I need too use some of those points else where
what about how it coincides with Perimeter defense movement while holding L2 or LT. Acceleration moves with perimeter defense in the builder. I haven't tested it but i wanted confirmation that it doesn't affect lateral movement.
Off topic, but have you done Needle Threader? I feel like I get stunned by some of these passes and am wondering if it's because my opponent has Needle. Thank!
Since it is linear, you can actually do the math yourself using the formula he provides in the video! It would be the same difference as a 61 to a 62. or a 25 to a 26. So not very significant. Also keep in mind if you do your Gatorade workouts you can get a +4 on all physical attributes. So no physical attribute should exceed a 95 rating.
I went from 48 accel to 66 on my big man and noticed a HUGE difference on defense while going in and out of sprinting. I know it doesn’t show it in this specific test but it does help off ball can’t stress this enough
Yes it does matter for sure on off-ball movements on offense and defense. This test doesn’t test dexing on defense. I am able to get better blocks on a center build with higher acceleration than the build with lower acceleration.
It doesn’t affect defense. Only speed do. Speed s only for off the ball activities. Acceleration is for on ball Size ups Triple threat Post move spin etc…. Y’all got it all wrong
BROOOOOOOOO thank you for these videos. I'm almost done building my rebirth, a 6'9 PF. I just need to know about 2 stats to complete it. I'm debating lowering them both. BLOCKs and VERTICAL!!!! Blocks are crazy this year, so hard to block peoples shot so is it even worth going up to 82?????? or put it down to 75 just to get gold chase down badge. I'm looking at being between 70-80 Vertical. Currently at 75 but I'm about to bring it down to 70 unless your video changes my mind!! Really looking forward to Blocks and vertical video from you. I NEED IT lol, thanks!!!!!!!!
Great video but, What some of these tests fail to show is in game situations. What does a 90 accel look like against someone with a 70 accel. Do they get stunned more? Do they lose that first step more often? I think so man. Like playing park at least get it to 77-79ish.
I see that when you drop your acceleration and that it decreases your perimeter defense. I saw the video on the speed test with the lateral movement stuff and maybe the lateral movement falls under the acceleration?
Oh try not to take those relations seriously,,, that's just 2k's way to put more realism and restrictions. Having stats/badges co-dependent on the builder doesn't necessarily mean that they are funtionality related. Speed is related to Per D as well but it doesn't touch Lateral movements. I already tested accel and it doesn't touch Lat movements
Love your stuff! I have a question though.. I’m playing on current gen and there doesn’t seem to be any vertical requirements for any animations. So is there any reason to upgrade vertical at all?
From my experience as a inside center, vertical helps plenty with jumping for rebounds, blocking shots, and maybe a little bit on dunking the basketball.
great vid tutes, would love to see you test green machine, seeing a lot of people using it this year, almost feels like 2K20’s version to me but it could just be placebo again
@@lj-snippppa-yt5954 I got a 6’6 wanted to keep some strength on him so I was hoping 87 or 88 would be a good sweet spot,, i might have to go for 89 huh?
Yo bro can u pls do guard up testing. I'm very conflicted on what's the tier to put it at and I'm also very unsure whether it works on fades or not so if u can test this it will really save me badge points :) love the vids
Yo tutes, could you please make a quick video on the catch&shoot badge? Us locks really need to know how much this badge boosts. In my case, it's a tier 3 shooting badge. Pls pls pls 🙏🏽
Given that even speed (which affects movement speed without the ball) doesn't touch lateral movements, I assume acceleration has nothing to do with it as well.
Love the content. Would be awesome to see some shooting badges tested. Agent 3, space creator (now shooting badge), and limitless range 🙏🏽 and maybe…what the heck they mean with “guard up” badge exactly . 🤷🏽♂️ Again, love the content always ✌️
When I make guards pg/sg I go even with speed or up to 5 points less. Forwards SF/PF and C I go from even with speed or up to 10 points less. As long as speed with ball, quick first step, and perimeter D solid you want see much diff.
If you envision yourself sprinting with the ball as a big then I’d say do it, but most bigs don’t need to sprint with the ball unless they have a finisher build. I’d definitely prioritize strength this year and then if you have leftover points you can use that for acceleration
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Should definitely do a vid over vertical, what thresholds give the best animations etc
@@Gameboy_legend1743 Definitely
I agree with gameboy_legend, but can you possibly add to it? More specifically can you find roughly how much an additional wingspan inch is equivalent to vertical?
For example, I’m thinking of making a big man build. But I can’t decide if a 7’10 wingspan with 87 vertical will be better than an 8’1 wingspan with 71 vertical. And if I am lacking with the smaller build will HOF rebound chaser make up for the lack of height?
I love your videos, your doing a great job!
@@Gameboy_legend1743 it’s not rocket science bro
BROOOOOOOOO thank you for these videos. I'm almost done building my rebirth, a 6'9 PF. I just need to know about 2 stats to complete it. I'm debating lowering them both.
BLOCKs and VERTICAL!!!!
Blocks are crazy this year, so hard to block peoples shot so is it even worth going up to 82?????? or put it down to 75 just to get gold chase down badge.
I'm looking at being between 70-80 Vertical. Currently at 75 but I'm about to bring it down to 70 unless your video changes my mind!!
Really looking forward to Blocks and vertical video from you. I NEED IT lol, thanks!!!!!!!!
Tutes you are a legend man. Badge testing this year is going to be so needed because of the limitations really need those sweet spots.
One of the most important 2K-videos of the year 💪. It will completely change how people make their builds!
man, editing this, had to not be any fun lmao. Definitely worth a like. Great work dude. In a world of clickbait and shit 2k creators, you are a bright light 😭
Really good content, straight to the point, no clickbaiting, and easy to understand
Keep up the great work, one of the few 2k content creators that I watch and recommend
I've been watching a lot of build videos and what badges do this or that and you are the only one I know taking an actual scientific, provable methodology to this. Everyone else shows them kicking butt in park and just bragging up their builds (as if that proves anything) but you are actually putting in the work to show off what all the skills and badges mean. And you have a sub from me for it! 👍
Thanks for the appreciation my friend. I always believe there''s a lot of placebo effect and randomness in the park which can alter results so I'm trying not to trust my observations in there haha. There are some players though who can do it though
Facts 100%
i got two builds at the same SPEED.... but one has zero acceleration upgraded.... the zero accel is slow af on defense. maybe it has something to do with lateral quickness?
Is 74 acceleration enough on a 3&D small forward? I'm not sure and don't want to mess anything up....
Bro your content is saving 2k lives bro. Can you please do speed with ball next
I appreciate you testing this every year. This video saves me a lot of points on builds every year.
@NBA 2K Tutes As a big Man with no Ball handling, acceleration is totally useless ?
low accel with QFS vs high accel with and without QFS would be interesting to test
would luv 2 see tha raw numbers on dat 💯👀in my experience any accel 80+ wit qfs gold or hof n u good as a ball handler💯🤞🏾
thats the plan!
@@nba2ktutes tutes I hate to ask since it’s in the video but would it be worth it, as a dribbler/ball handler to move my accel from 86-90? I see the trend between the 25-62-99 intervals but I’m curious if I’m better off sparing the 4 accel extra.
I could either have 92 speed with ball, 85 speed and 86 accel
Or
91 speed with ball, 82 speed and 90 accel. (I like to speedboost out of dribbles a lot)
@@F90Spoolin I would go with the second one. I dont even move my speed up beyond what it goes to from moving up my speed with ball.
@@nba2ktutes could you compare a (70 accel + QFS HoF) vs. (90 Accel No Badge) I’m convinced the logic in this game is broken when it comes to acceleration.
Tutes, I just wanted to thank you for your thoroughness and for taking the time to break down WHY you use the data points you use. For anyone just tuning in, this video would be the perfect orientation for them. Keep making that 🔥.
Can you test how much vertical affects rebounding?
Hey Tutes! By anychance do you know if jumpshot ratings are similar with their correlated ratings?
Might be inaccurate but let's say.
Rudy Gay - Release height A+
Vs
Lary bird - Release height A+
Like statistically are they the same? Give out the same output/outcome? Or are they just more for the esthetics.
You're a smart guy... really enjoyed the breakdown of why you choose those ratings. Best vid so far man, keep it up!
THANK YOU!!! I’ve been wondering about this for awhile Tutes.
These breakdowns of physical stats are extremely helpful for players coming from Current Gen and still playing around with the builder.
More physical stats coming soon I hope 👀🙏
Thanks for the appreciation!
Does 2k23 current gen require specific vertical attributes for contact dunks? Or is that just for new gen?
Hey tutes is there a noticeable difference between 70 and 75 acceleration?
Great video fam.
First Tutes I appreciate all your content thank you for what you do!
This year it absolutely affects quick starts and stops when off the ball, I made a SG with 90 speed and 75 acceleration with 71 perimeter defense and he feels much slower than my PG who has 82 speed with 92 acceleration and 52 perimeter defense
Max out your acceleration this year guys, this example makes sense, if you’re on running in a straight line, but quick movements off ball on offense and defense i noticed a big difference in reaction time and quickness
Just my own personal observation
my SG is a puresharp 99 3ball 30 shooting badges
my PG is a pure playmaker 96 passing 31 playmaking badges
Yes this is 100% true. Spent hours testing different center builds in builder, and the builds I tested with higher acceleration react better to movement changes on defense. Helped me get more blocks because I could react faster
I've been watching your videos for a few years now. I love your approach to testing important aspects of the game and the way you present your content.
does acceleration effect defense?
So to make things clear, as a Center build, who never ever dribbles the ball, I can just leave acceleration at 25 and put speed to max?
We still don't know if it affects defense so up to you.
@@moneyiniti we already know it doesn't affects defense
@@KingAfrica4 do you think acceleration helps me at pick and roll?
@@osITTI it's your first few steps so yes
New to 2k and been so happy to find your channel. Ty
What you think of 78 accel and hof quick first step would that be better than 81 accel gold guicl first step ?
So acceleration doesn’t affect defense or for non primary ball handlers? Cuz I’m boutta make a pure lock who’ll just shoot and pass and will be able to finish at the rim if I have to
I have a question if I have a center that’s max height max weight would I be able to sacrifice some of my builds strength because of how heavy my build is or is that not how it works?
Can you test how acceleration and quick first step interact? Test vertical and stamina. Does weight matter vs. strength.
I thought you were a build guru 😂
@@marm562 Doesn't mean I didn't rely on the experts in breaking down individual attributes to better optimize a build
Do I neeed a 92 accel or 96 for my pg then
Would you recommend 76 acceleration & 82 strength or 80 accel & 75 strength?
Whichever one best fits your playstyle
@@johnsonswanson2138 I went with 82/80 for hopefully better launches from Qfs
@@xStarrLights cool, those numbers look good
Thanks for the video
Blessup Tutes....ok have a 6'1 pg with 86 speed and Accl, and im noticing after i either grab a rebound or attempt to grab the rebound and when I land ive notice there is a delay on my player before i can run up the court....maybe its because of the speed and accl is low? but it mostly happens after jumping in the air for a rebound and dont grab it the delay is noticeable....
There’s a badge for that I forget what it’s called
Delay is due to not having pogo stick. I keep it on bronze because stuff like that used to happen
I appreciate this vid, I've been waiting on it.
You’re goated…. Liked and shared
Hey I haven’t gotten the game yet. So I shouldn’t upgrade acceleration much when I get the game
I got a 6’8 dribbler he’s sf slasher that can shoot what should I put my acceleration too the max is 80 but i don’t want to go the max I need too use some of those points else where
Thanks for sharing!
what about how it coincides with Perimeter defense movement while holding L2 or LT. Acceleration moves with perimeter defense in the builder. I haven't tested it but i wanted confirmation that it doesn't affect lateral movement.
Easy way of putting it. How fast does it take your car to go from 0-60
This helps a lot and is very helpful brother
Get this man to 100k subs man bro been grinding 🔥
What software do you use to edit?
Off topic, but have you done Needle Threader? I feel like I get stunned by some of these passes and am wondering if it's because my opponent has Needle. Thank!
Haven;t done it Thanks for the suggestion man!
@@nba2ktutes Looking forward to it! Great content as always Tutes!
@@nbatweets6562 you get stunned bc of not timing the close out of steal
@@DaKidNexxDoor this is not off of steal attempts, if that’s what you’re suggesting. Appreciate the help tho
That Tutes Intro Fire 🔥 🔥🔥
can we test if there is any difference at all for 98 acceleration vs 99 acceleration. Since 1 attribute cost alot at that level.
Since it is linear, you can actually do the math yourself using the formula he provides in the video! It would be the same difference as a 61 to a 62. or a 25 to a 26. So not very significant. Also keep in mind if you do your Gatorade workouts you can get a +4 on all physical attributes. So no physical attribute should exceed a 95 rating.
I went from 48 accel to 66 on my big man and noticed a HUGE difference on defense while going in and out of sprinting. I know it doesn’t show it in this specific test but it does help off ball can’t stress this enough
I have 2 guards one with 80 acceleration gold first step and one with 86 acceleration HOF first step. It's Night and day
Yes it does matter for sure on off-ball movements on offense and defense. This test doesn’t test dexing on defense. I am able to get better blocks on a center build with higher acceleration than the build with lower acceleration.
It doesn’t affect defense.
Only speed do. Speed s only for off the ball activities.
Acceleration is for on ball
Size ups
Triple threat
Post move spin etc….
Y’all got it all wrong
Does this only apply to my career or my team as well?
I like going 76 accel so that gym rat pushes it to 80 in game, feels smoove
What about video on vertical and its use!
Thanks for the recommendation! I'll see what I can do!
Got a new sub, good stuff
I've said it before but I feel like I need to say it again. Your new intro is awesome
And also you need to hurry up with the badge breakdowns (I'm kidding I know it takes time) but agent 3s seems absolutely insane this year
thanks for the appreciation man!
My guy’s making 2k builder a science 🧬 love it! You got a sub bro keep up the good work
U just got a new sub keep it up man
Bruh check blinders and dead eye . I want to know if it worth getting blinder gold n deadeye silver worth it.
I second this i haven't seen deadeye pop up once so I'm confused if I even slap it on
patience
Bro you are so helpful. Great detail and analysis. Super smart man
Thanks for the appreciation man!
BROOOOOOOOO thank you for these videos. I'm almost done building my rebirth, a 6'9 PF. I just need to know about 2 stats to complete it. I'm debating lowering them both.
BLOCKs and VERTICAL!!!!
Blocks are crazy this year, so hard to block peoples shot so is it even worth going up to 82?????? or put it down to 75 just to get gold chase down badge.
I'm looking at being between 70-80 Vertical. Currently at 75 but I'm about to bring it down to 70 unless your video changes my mind!!
Really looking forward to Blocks and vertical video from you. I NEED IT lol, thanks!!!!!!!!
I block shots all the time with a 75 block and 86 vertical. My make block goes to 85. Haven’t gotten it there yet tho. I’m 6’9 and block 7 footers
Wow I was wondering if I could go from a 60 to a 55 accel on my 7 ft Center and this is just such helpful info. Thankyou Tutes!
Acceleration doesn't affect lateral quickness on defense?
2k is different. TUTES SQUAD💥🔥💥
In my player builder rn and this 6’7 pg looks amazing accept for his 80 acceleration
On a 6’1 build , Do you think the extra 5 points from 85 to 90 on Acceleration is worth it ?
At 6’1 i think you’ll be relying on your burst or speed heavily so i think yes, it’s worth it
@@nba2ktutes ok One Last Question, On A 6’10 For Quick First Step is It worth the points For HOF or Is Gold Good Enough ?
@@AdmirePolk gold is perfect on a 6’10 no need to go higher
Talk about true in game knowledge. Ohhhh how I love your people😂💕🥰!!!! Great breakdown
Thanks for the appreciation!
you are 1 of my favourite content creator.
It would be nice to finish up the physicals but can you do a speed with ball next
patience
that's the plan
be nice to know if acceleration helps using L2, while strafing.
Great video but, What some of these tests fail to show is in game situations. What does a 90 accel look like against someone with a 70 accel. Do they get stunned more? Do they lose that first step more often? I think so man. Like playing park at least get it to 77-79ish.
Good stuff bro!
I see that when you drop your acceleration and that it decreases your perimeter defense. I saw the video on the speed test with the lateral movement stuff and maybe the lateral movement falls under the acceleration?
Oh try not to take those relations seriously,,, that's just 2k's way to put more realism and restrictions. Having stats/badges co-dependent on the builder doesn't necessarily mean that they are funtionality related. Speed is related to Per D as well but it doesn't touch Lateral movements. I already tested accel and it doesn't touch Lat movements
Ngl this kinda frustrating 😭 I did more accel than speed by like 5 thinking accel mattered more this year
Love your stuff! I have a question though.. I’m playing on current gen and there doesn’t seem to be any vertical requirements for any animations. So is there any reason to upgrade vertical at all?
From my experience as a inside center, vertical helps plenty with jumping for rebounds, blocking shots, and maybe a little bit on dunking the basketball.
I just subscribed I love the videos
What are the minimum attribute requirements to speed boost?
Good question
Please Talk about finishing badges like fearless finisher, rise up or pro Touch and which badge quality you recommend
🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 the real mvp for this
Great video man much appreciated
Unrelated but I noticed agent 3s pops up after doing any dribble into a shot, w badge
You’ve gotten so good at these videos
great vid tutes, would love to see you test green machine, seeing a lot of people using it this year, almost feels like 2K20’s version to me but it could just be placebo again
Thanks for the recommendation! I'll see what I can do!
Thank you again my friend
Great analysis, thank you for saving me Time and money! 2k does this placebo effect a lot don’t they?
How long until acceleration caps out? I heard 92👀
Hmmm 🤔
@@casiemny1219 it works good at 89
@@lj-snippppa-yt5954 I got a 6’6 wanted to keep some strength on him so I was hoping 87 or 88 would be a good sweet spot,, i might have to go for 89 huh?
@@casiemny1219 I have a 6’6 with 60 strength and 89 acceleration
Yo bro can u pls do guard up testing. I'm very conflicted on what's the tier to put it at and I'm also very unsure whether it works on fades or not so if u can test this it will really save me badge points :) love the vids
Can you do handles for days on each level
Can we get a post lockdown vs brick wall badge video? I’m not sure where to spen my points because my big has 66 strength
I would like to see the effects of different levels of clamp breaker vs nothing then versu different level of clamps
Thanks for the recommendation! I'll see what I can do!
Appreciate you for the vid
Yo tutes, could you please make a quick video on the catch&shoot badge? Us locks really need to know how much this badge boosts. In my case, it's a tier 3 shooting badge. Pls pls pls 🙏🏽
What about on defense?
Have you tested acceleration by holding left trigger on defense to see if it effects changing direction speed while shuffling?
Given that even speed (which affects movement speed without the ball) doesn't touch lateral movements, I assume acceleration has nothing to do with it as well.
Noti gang
Thank you
W needed this
Thanks
This was really helpful
Noti gang on deck
what about for changing direction while moving laterally like defending the perimeter
You perimeter defense rating has its own speed
that's your perimeter D
Speed with ball?
Love the content. Would be awesome to see some shooting badges tested. Agent 3, space creator (now shooting badge), and limitless range 🙏🏽 and maybe…what the heck they mean with “guard up” badge exactly . 🤷🏽♂️ Again, love the content always ✌️
So if mine maxes at 80, can I put it at 70 and it’s fine?
When I make guards pg/sg I go even with speed or up to 5 points less. Forwards SF/PF and C I go from even with speed or up to 10 points less. As long as speed with ball, quick first step, and perimeter D solid you want see much diff.
@@YHWHxYAHmes you the man
If you have 80 doing the gym is 84 :)
So for a 7'3 big, do you recommend maxing it out despite i can only get around 40acc or just leave it 25?
I say leave it where ever the game puts it. Some categories might raise it
Max it out, will be really cheap and as its linear its still a good boost
If you envision yourself sprinting with the ball as a big then I’d say do it, but most bigs don’t need to sprint with the ball unless they have a finisher build. I’d definitely prioritize strength this year and then if you have leftover points you can use that for acceleration
Thanks for all the feedback yall, appreciate it
Quality content🔥