The short stroking is a gas related issue. Ensure the gas port in the barrel is aligned with the gas port in the gas block. I have seen this issue before an new builds and that has been the issue 100% of the time. Measure the barrel gas port hole from the shoulder to the hole, then measure the gas block from the end. Some gas blocks are designed to have the front handguard ring between the shoulder of the barrel and the gas block. I realize you may not be able to measure the hole on the gas block because of the pin/welded flash hider. If that is the case, move the gas block forward about the thickness of a thin sheet metal front hgandguard ring, and take it to the range and shoot it.
Swapping uppers will tell you if it’s an upper or lower issue, but I suspect it’s an upper lower mismatch between the VLTOR and the ADM…these are so precision manufactured that I’m not sure they’re as compatible as sloppier forged Milspec receivers. All great parts and it’s stunning.
That's a good point. It seemed like when it ran, it was gassed perfectly. Locked back on the last round and everything, but sometimes, it just didn't eject. Kind of weird, but I'll be taking it back out tomorrow for more testing, so hopefully I'll get it figured out.
The Sly Tactical padded sling is nice, and it's what I run. I like how they do their pull tab for easy and smooth pulls in or out, and I like that the buckle that slides isn't some big hunk of metal like the Ferro Slingster is. Also it's made from class 1 nylon I believe so it's very smooth on the skin as well as being very strong! Highly recommend!!!
Dude! Awesome build so far! I have to admit there are allot of parts on that build that a dream of having, like the VLTor MUR the ADM ambi lower, and Rosco barrel, but I am not a fan of Geissele but to each their own, I want a gold SPICE TAC/Tool Craft BCG I also want, the VLTor A5 buffer system, with the Reptilla Recc-e stock. that's what I want for a dream build.
Good for you! Go for it! Build your dream build. You will be really happy with it when you're done. I think I should have gone with the Vltor A5 buffer system on this one, actually. This is the second build that I've used the Geissele Super 42 buffer system on and the second one that I've had problems with...
Beachin Tactical speed sling. Comfortable. You can pick the colors. Combat Vet hand made! Awesome slings. I have 2 and plan on buying more. Very reasonably priced! 👍🏻🤙🏼
@@sawtoothtactical404 You will thank me later! If you end up not liking it I'll pay you for it. Heck Jacob from PreppersBunkerOutdoors would probably send u one for free just to do a review. He sponsored Conservative Guns & Ammo when I told them to hit him up. Jacob Peterson owns Beachin Tactical and Exodus Knife & Tool. Great guy! 👍🏻🤙🏼
He's the guy that does them all for our local gun shop, so I trusted it. Seems like he did a good job to me. I haven't welded in years, so I guarantee it's a lot better than I would've done.
The cycling issues are most likely the buffer spring and/or buffer. I had cycling issues because I got the wrong spring. Switched it out with a standard one and it’s shot perfectly ever since. What kind of buffer spring and buffer you using?
I think you're right. I'm running the Geissele Super 42 system with an H2 buffer and it seems like just a little too much. H2 is what is recommended for a 14.5" mid-length gas system, but it seems to me like I need an H1. I need to contact Geissele and see if I can just get the H1 buffer, because regular buffers won't fit inside the Super 42 braided wire spring.
@@sawtoothtactical404 hope you can get it figured out. But if I were you I would get an H1 buffer and a standard buffer spring as well just in case. Real nice build btw. As far as slings go I’ve only ever used Blueforce gear and they are great quality. The Warrior Poet Society sling looks good but haven’t used one or seen many reviews on it. Good luck with the build.
@@sawtoothtactical404 I had issues with the Super 42....That spring is 15% stronger....I don't use them anymore.....Sprinco white or white/red and strart with a 3 oz. buffer and go to a 3.8 H1.....You may even want to try Tubbs flat wire or Wilson Combat flat wire.....They're made by ISMI who have been making them for 40 years.....Give either tech a call and they'll give you great advice over the phone.....The Super 42 is hard to deal with at first.....
I would try an H buffer and see if that fixes the issue of not coming back far enough to feed the next round. Then when you suppress it you would need the H2 or H3 to slow it down again.
I think you might be right. I gotta call Geissele and see if I can get just an H1 buffer from them, because I'm running their Super 42 system and a regular buffer won't fit inside the Super 42 braided spring.
I am running an H2 buffer, which is what I believe I should be running with a 14.5" mid-length gas system. I might have to try an H1 and see if that makes the difference. I looked at the FCD buffer tube before I purchased the Geissele one, but decided to just go with Geissele in OD Green. I think I'm going to do a camo sling, though.
@@sawtoothtactical404 Rather then make a RUclips video.....If you feel comfortable giving me an email address I'd be more then happy to send you pics of several nice builds you would definitely appreciate.....I'm a big fan of your RUclips channel that's why I subscribed......I've been using different Geissele triggers and the LaRue MBT.....Love the optics you choose as well.....I just completed a 14.5 pinned & welded that I'll be testing out this coming week.....
@@sawtoothtactical404 What's inside your BCG spring-wise? I use the Sprinco 5 coil extractor spring with black insert and delete the viton o-ring.....I also use Sprinco ejector springs and gas rings as well as buffer springs.....I have never had an issue.....Try that set-up....works great.....Are you using adjustable gas block? If it's dimpled that gas port is aligned properly......20,000 psi is plenty of gas pressure.....How is it running now? I'd say it just needs to be ran and cleaned well.....by just watching the video.....
Try a springco green spring and h2 buffer i hear the geissele braided spring can be a bit much unless you're suppressing it all the time really nice build👍
I've been finding the same thing. I've used the Geissele Super 42 spring and buffer on two builds, now, and it's given me issues with both of them. I've got this one running great now, though. I'll have an update video out tomorrow.
I have ADM UIC upper & lower I'm building out right now. Debating between the FCD EPC twin dimple & V7 Ultralight Designer dust covers. How do you like the EPC cover you have on? Just trying to figure out which dust cover I want to spend $50 on?
I want to get the EPC, but I read somewhere they aren’t comparable with the upper receiver I have, Centurion Arms CM4/Battle Axe. I’m sure it’s nothing a dreamer can’t fix, but I really don’t want to do that.
I was pulling my hair out with a super lightweight 300 Blkout build. Dumped way too much money in and could not get it running 100% with a titanium adjustable bolt carrier group until I basically took all the weights out of the buffer. Now it hasn’t had a hiccup in over 1000 rounds.
The mags I'm using are brand new Gen M3 Window P-Mags. They're pretty much the standard for reliability, but I'll try some of my other mags, just in case that could be the issue.
Spending all that money to building an unrealiable gun. That sucks man. I guess that's the reason not to mix and match a bunch of different parts. You should have just picked up an LWRC 5.56.
I have other guns. The point isn't just to pick something up, although LWRC is fantastic. I enjoy building them. I put a different buffer and spring in it and it's totally reliable, but that's part of building: sometimes you gotta experiment a little to see what's going to work.
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The short stroking is a gas related issue. Ensure the gas port in the barrel is aligned with the gas port in the gas block. I have seen this issue before an new builds and that has been the issue 100% of the time.
Measure the barrel gas port hole from the shoulder to the hole, then measure the gas block from the end. Some gas blocks are designed to have the front handguard ring between the shoulder of the barrel and the gas block. I realize you may not be able to measure the hole on the gas block because of the pin/welded flash hider. If that is the case, move the gas block forward about the thickness of a thin sheet metal front hgandguard ring, and take it to the range and shoot it.
Yep. I did that. It's aligned properly. I've got it running great, now. I'll have an update video out tomorrow.
Very nice. Like the detailed thought process for the build. Looks great. Inspires me to build my own bottom up.
Do it! It's a really satisfying feeling to build your own rifle exactly how you want it then get to go shoot it and it actually works!
Swapping uppers will tell you if it’s an upper or lower issue, but I suspect it’s an upper lower mismatch between the VLTOR and the ADM…these are so precision manufactured that I’m not sure they’re as compatible as sloppier forged Milspec receivers. All great parts and it’s stunning.
That's a good point. It seemed like when it ran, it was gassed perfectly. Locked back on the last round and everything, but sometimes, it just didn't eject. Kind of weird, but I'll be taking it back out tomorrow for more testing, so hopefully I'll get it figured out.
Looks so nice great job making a dream build!
Thanks! It's a rifle that I can be proud of and now that I've got it running reliably, I'm really happy with it!
The Sly Tactical padded sling is nice, and it's what I run. I like how they do their pull tab for easy and smooth pulls in or out, and I like that the buckle that slides isn't some big hunk of metal like the Ferro Slingster is. Also it's made from class 1 nylon I believe so it's very smooth on the skin as well as being very strong! Highly recommend!!!
Thank you! I'll definitely check that out. I hadn't heard of that one yet.
@@sawtoothtactical404Edgar Sherman Designs makes a really nice sling, not padded though. To some that might be a deal breaker.
Dude! Awesome build so far! I have to admit there are allot of parts on that build that a dream of having, like the VLTor MUR the ADM ambi lower, and Rosco barrel, but I am not a fan of Geissele but to each their own, I want a gold SPICE TAC/Tool Craft BCG I also want, the VLTor A5 buffer system, with the Reptilla Recc-e stock. that's what I want for a dream build.
Good for you! Go for it! Build your dream build. You will be really happy with it when you're done. I think I should have gone with the Vltor A5 buffer system on this one, actually. This is the second build that I've used the Geissele Super 42 buffer system on and the second one that I've had problems with...
Beachin Tactical speed sling. Comfortable. You can pick the colors. Combat Vet hand made! Awesome slings. I have 2 and plan on buying more. Very reasonably priced! 👍🏻🤙🏼
I'll check that out. Thanks!
@@sawtoothtactical404 You will thank me later! If you end up not liking it I'll pay you for it. Heck Jacob from PreppersBunkerOutdoors would probably send u one for free just to do a review. He sponsored Conservative Guns & Ammo when I told them to hit him up. Jacob Peterson owns Beachin Tactical and Exodus Knife & Tool. Great guy! 👍🏻🤙🏼
The Ferro Concepts slingster in green is perfect for an OD build It looks so good on my green build
That's one that I've been looking at. Thanks!
He mig welded it? Generally you tig weld those
He's the guy that does them all for our local gun shop, so I trusted it. Seems like he did a good job to me. I haven't welded in years, so I guarantee it's a lot better than I would've done.
No, you mig weld it. You literally tac it kinda heavy and try to make clean pool, file, done. Mig, preferably gas shielded
The cycling issues are most likely the buffer spring and/or buffer. I had cycling issues because I got the wrong spring. Switched it out with a standard one and it’s shot perfectly ever since.
What kind of buffer spring and buffer you using?
I think you're right. I'm running the Geissele Super 42 system with an H2 buffer and it seems like just a little too much. H2 is what is recommended for a 14.5" mid-length gas system, but it seems to me like I need an H1. I need to contact Geissele and see if I can just get the H1 buffer, because regular buffers won't fit inside the Super 42 braided wire spring.
@@sawtoothtactical404 hope you can get it figured out. But if I were you I would get an H1 buffer and a standard buffer spring as well just in case. Real nice build btw.
As far as slings go I’ve only ever used Blueforce gear and they are great quality. The Warrior Poet Society sling looks good but haven’t used one or seen many reviews on it. Good luck with the build.
@@sawtoothtactical404 I had issues with the Super 42....That spring is 15% stronger....I don't use them anymore.....Sprinco white or white/red and strart with a 3 oz. buffer and go to a 3.8 H1.....You may even want to try Tubbs flat wire or Wilson Combat flat wire.....They're made by ISMI who have been making them for 40 years.....Give either tech a call and they'll give you great advice over the phone.....The Super 42 is hard to deal with at first.....
I would try an H buffer and see if that fixes the issue of not coming back far enough to feed the next round. Then when you suppress it you would need the H2 or H3 to slow it down again.
I think you might be right. I gotta call Geissele and see if I can get just an H1 buffer from them, because I'm running their Super 42 system and a regular buffer won't fit inside the Super 42 braided spring.
I think the H1 buffer might be the fix you need. I have a 14.5 pined and welded with the super 42 H1 and Bcm bolt carrier group and it runs perfect.
Also for the sling my vote goes to blue force gear Vickers sling
If I may suggest- Edgar Sherman Designs for doing.
That's actually the one I've been giving the most thought to. Thanks!
the FCD camo buffer tube would put this over the top, it looks great tho as is, if your not running an H2 buffer that could help with the timing
I am running an H2 buffer, which is what I believe I should be running with a 14.5" mid-length gas system. I might have to try an H1 and see if that makes the difference. I looked at the FCD buffer tube before I purchased the Geissele one, but decided to just go with Geissele in OD Green. I think I'm going to do a camo sling, though.
Nice.....Love color scheme......I built one similar
Thank you! I love the way this one turned out. I'd love to see your build, as well.
@@sawtoothtactical404 Rather then make a RUclips video.....If you feel comfortable giving me an email address I'd be more then happy to send you pics of several nice builds you would definitely appreciate.....I'm a big fan of your RUclips channel that's why I subscribed......I've been using different Geissele triggers and the LaRue MBT.....Love the optics you choose as well.....I just completed a 14.5 pinned & welded that I'll be testing out this coming week.....
@@sawtoothtactical404 What's inside your BCG spring-wise? I use the Sprinco 5 coil extractor spring with black insert and delete the viton o-ring.....I also use Sprinco ejector springs and gas rings as well as buffer springs.....I have never had an issue.....Try that set-up....works great.....Are you using adjustable gas block? If it's dimpled that gas port is aligned properly......20,000 psi is plenty of gas pressure.....How is it running now? I'd say it just needs to be ran and cleaned well.....by just watching the video.....
Definitely a tad under gassed but other than that, sweet!
I was hoping to get it gassed nice and soft, but reliable. Might have to make some adjustments...
I liked your build so I said ima do one instead I bought stag arms green one
Try a springco green spring and h2 buffer i hear the geissele braided spring can be a bit much unless you're suppressing it all the time really nice build👍
I've been finding the same thing. I've used the Geissele Super 42 spring and buffer on two builds, now, and it's given me issues with both of them. I've got this one running great now, though. I'll have an update video out tomorrow.
I have ADM UIC upper & lower I'm building out right now. Debating between the FCD EPC twin dimple & V7 Ultralight Designer dust covers. How do you like the EPC cover you have on? Just trying to figure out which dust cover I want to spend $50 on?
I like the EPC. It's solid billet and it just looks cool.
@@sawtoothtactical404 cool thanks
I want to get the EPC, but I read somewhere they aren’t comparable with the upper receiver I have, Centurion Arms CM4/Battle Axe. I’m sure it’s nothing a dreamer can’t fix, but I really don’t want to do that.
what was causing the cycling issues? buffer weight?
Yep. H2 was just a little too heavy. It runs great with an H1 now.
Congrats! Well done!
Thanks! It's getting there. I just need to get it running reliably now.
That's awesome! I think I might do a 10.3" MK18 style build next. I don't have anything with a quad rail yet...
Maybe try h1
Yep. I did that yesterday and it ran perfectly with a lighter buffer.
I was pulling my hair out with a super lightweight 300 Blkout build. Dumped way too much money in and could not get it running 100% with a titanium adjustable bolt carrier group until I basically took all the weights out of the buffer. Now it hasn’t had a hiccup in over 1000 rounds.
Good stuff
Thank you!
Spring and or buffer too much just go carbine buffer
That's what I thought, too, but I got it worked out. Update video will be out tomorrow.
Get some new mags
The mags I'm using are brand new Gen M3 Window P-Mags. They're pretty much the standard for reliability, but I'll try some of my other mags, just in case that could be the issue.
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Thank you!
Spending all that money to building an unrealiable gun. That sucks man. I guess that's the reason not to mix and match a bunch of different parts. You should have just picked up an LWRC 5.56.
I have other guns. The point isn't just to pick something up, although LWRC is fantastic. I enjoy building them. I put a different buffer and spring in it and it's totally reliable, but that's part of building: sometimes you gotta experiment a little to see what's going to work.
@@sawtoothtactical404 which one you get? im thinking about getting the Geissele 42
all that money and not reliable☹
Right? I'm sure I'll get it there. I've had issues with other guns, as well, and I've always been able to make them work.
That's a glorious machine I'm jealous
Thanks! I love it, so far. Just gotta get it running reliably.