The 600-900 rating range is absolutely polluted by cheaters. Just play the 10 minute Rapid tournament and you'll be blasted off the board by at least one of them.
@@aurelienherve6658 cheat detection is pretty good on both major sites. I'm no expert, but I would guess that there are more cheaters in that bracket simply because they're obvious enough to get caught before they can reach 1000
You'll find out that once you get to 1100 level all the cheaters start dying off and the quality of chess dips slightly. I bashed an 1130 today to pieces yet I have played 600s who bash me to pieces and have like 90+ accuracy.
the tournaments are complete trash for cheating, it's so frustrating cos I want to play random games against higher rated players, just not 3300+ rated engine readers
Simon, I think it’s great when grand masters play speed runs at this level and catch cheaters. It’s ridiculously difficult for us amateurs to try and navigate through these minefields of cheats
I have done a speedrun myself, ofcourse I am not a gm so I set my target to 1500. I have played a new account from 400 to 1500 and not encountered a single cheater this time. So I think it is better right now. On my main account however ( from new year to about July) I got my ratings refunded every 10th game or something like that. I remember how crazy that was. But right now I feel like it has become much better
If Simon plays sharp book lines, goes wrong and gives his opponent a natural attack that plays itself, many new players will follow through. Where were the unnatural "computer moves" that could only be understood by deep analysis of many variations?
@@RobBCactive What you say it's just not true. You really think a 800 can play a perfect game and beat a gm in a 5 min game? 99.5 accuracy against a gm is impossible for an 800 ELO player, even for a 2300, come on. Not even a small mistake when there are millions of options. When an opponent plays sharp book lines, goes wrong and gives his opponent a "natural" attack, many new players would just hang a piece or miss the whole idea of the position; they don't play 20+ moves of engine theory, that's for sure.
Sorry this happens to you, champ. If it's any consolation you've proven that GM's are not only experts at the game but also generous and humble ambassadors to the sport.
Not true. There are GMs who have been caught cheating. There are cheaters in all walks of life. GingerGM is a good ambassador for chess though I agree with that.
@@SuperYtc1 - I watched a video about Mikhail Tal that showed that he did in effect cheat when he played Bobby Fischer. Apparently Fischer had a habit of writing down his next move before he made it, and since in those days, it was possible to call for a recess/break whenever you wanted one (the championship games went on for days sometimes), Tal would call for a break after noticing that Fischer's next move was going to be a killer. Obviously you couldn't call for a break after your opponent had moved - but Fischer's habit gave him an advantage.
Simon is admirably cool after having his stream ruined by (admittedly expected) cheaters. Ironically it makes the stream better so it wasn't ruined at all.
Thanks for the content Simon its always great stuff. A little tip for ya fella, be careful with your name choice, people will happily throw away an account to see a GM play Stockfish. Be a bit more incognito and you might not get as much of this!
It's unlikely people still cheat regardless of the name. I mean Danya (GM Daniel Nar..) does informative games like this and he still runs into cheaters when he's incognito. Plus GMs are the only ones who can get rid of cheaters really, so them cheating cause of his name is probably advantageous for the community as a whole.
@@WillyToulouse I don’t want to call anybody out in a negative way, but I’ve seen chess brahs roll their eyes talking about how good a player is and how surprising it is that he just lost to a 1400. I think that’s a funny way to handle it too and have no problem with that. I think the intention is not to give these players attention and so not to inspire others to follow suit, but we all know what’s going on. I think some of the chess 24 streamers are guilty of getting annoyed then speaking in code in a not humorous way. That’s what gets on my nerves.
I had to laugh. Simon's face when his 4th opponent played theory in the opening is priceless ( 24:18 mark ). I bet I was thinking "oh... not again!". Thank you for the lessons and the entertainment.
Watching that last one, I was like there’s no way an 800 hasn’t hung a piece already. Maybe you can get audience members to play you at each rating. It would be super instructive and there may be more incentive not to cheat.
Your speedrun videos have clearly been some of your most successful, especially recently. I very much appreciate them and look forward to watching this series develop!
Thanks very much for posting. The cheating was flagrant yet you were restrained and humble in the face of it. I hadn't realised the cheating was so widespread so I'm pleased to know. Thanks again
Thx so much for the practical beginner content in a format of what I’ve come to call “chess out loud.” Hearing the real-time explanations and thinking process is very helpful. Cheaters are a part of online chess - no surprise. But good to see the factors you measure to figure if it’s just a good game or suspicious enough to report.
Dear Simon I love your speedrun videos. You give deep insights how a very strong player approaches the game. And you show the complexity of the game which means that there are always numerous factors to be considered. And for the cheaters please don't let them come to you and imbalance you. You're a very strong and humerous chess player which offers a lot of very helpful advice! Thousands of cheaters won't change this. And again, I thank you for your work, Simon!
Love these videos, and don't let the cheaters get to you! They're abundant at the lower levels, sadly. I really wish you would do like 10 | 0 with analysis afterwards about the opening you chose and responses to moves etc. I know that might be giving away some stuff, but I always learn a lot from the Narodisky-like approach to teaching and with your knowledge... I mean there's a lot to learn from a great player like yourself. Also, longer time controls = less cheaters, in my experience.
@@camerondavis6607 Not if it is too long tho, i highly doubt a cheater would have the patience to play, say a 60|0 game just to look up engine lines for every move in 5 seconds and wait 5 minutes for the opponent to think
Clearly cheaters spoil the fun but this time I must say this video really made me laugh ! Thank you Simon for taking it with humour and for sharing the video anyway. It was very funny to watch the crushing of a GM by computers :-)
Thnx for that speedrun and it's very annoying with those cheaters!! I hate cheaters, lowlife clowns pretending they can play excellent chess..I report also those cheaters on Lichess where I play on. Love your series Simon and keep up your great work and vids. Cheers!
2:35 "...the Italian variation of the Ruy Lopez". But since the Ruy Lopez is Bb5, this is not an accurate label, is it? This is the Italian Game, not the Ruy Lopez. (Specifically: Italian Game, Two Knights Defense, Max Lange Attack)
Just gotta love Simon! It says so mutch GOOD about him that even after a 700 playing 10 moves of theory he still is not explicitly suspecting the opponent of cheating. (No 700 knows ANY theory and plays it that fast.) Some would call it naive. I honestly think it's a sign of good character. You rock Simon!
This speedrun gives me some heart.... it's depressing playing against what seems like similar low level players like myself only to be outclassed from the off. So where does it go from here? Playing in private online rooms only where everyone is vetted?
I wish they highlighted in game that the opponent is 99% accurate after so many moves and it's suspicious. Really annoying!!!!!! Thanks for your series very informative, don't let the cheaters win!
Fantastic series and insight. Thank you. Is it worth having a completely random username for your speed runs? Saying GingerGM - Speedrun may induce some cheaters to cheat against you? The thinking being that they can 'beat' a GM doing a Speedrun.
The frightening thing is there might be an advantage to learning this way. Sitting in the cockpit with the engine, you can get a front row seat learning live how an engine dismantles your opponent while adding in a little input of your own. This seems far superior than standard methods of theoretical study. No one talks about this because they are either doing it, or they are worried about giving some people justification in their actions.
Great vids and please keep up the speed runs. I’m not new to chess but I am new to studying it and really learning theory and these vids are quite helpful. I agree with the field, wether they were cheating or not, your patience and professionalism shows that it’s about the knowledge and education. Thanks again.
I just came to see cheaters, but after your video you became my favourite chess youtuber. Thank you for your explanations, I really can learn much from you.
Unfortunately the boom in chess brought about by Queen's Gambit and the likes of Hikaru means that all their acolytes are now getting online eager to emulate their heroes and then crying when they run into people who have actually read a few chess books, so they turn to Stockfish so they can laugh at their opponents and shout 'Game Ovah!!' after each perfect win.
22:59 I'm sure if you were playing a GM you would have thought it through more, you couldn't have known he was cheating, you hard on yourself as usual! :) (I'm assuming he was cheating, no 800 plays like that lol). Really interesting and fun as always, thanks :)
Online chess now consists of cheaters. Some of them are like this guys, just cheating all the way, others - just in tough positions “finding” couple of saving/winning moves. Seen it billion of times
The ones that open terribly, then get the cheats on after 15 moves and pull out the miracle after being 3 pawns and a Knight down. I hate online chess because of this.
@@richiejbhoy1888 that is harder to detect and harder to prove. As I guess their accuracy level isnt insane, but they pull out the win through cheating.
@@lukebignell7846 if I analyse it, I can see they find the absolute best moves 5 6 moves in a row in the middle game. I just report them immediately. It's so obvious when you're playing them.
Spare a thought for those who lost to cheaters before detection was easily provable. Gave up correspondence chess 25 years ago when my 2508 peak was obliterated by the first generation of computer cheaters. Decades of study and improvement countered by arseholes with a mediocre program running to many ply over a few days each move.
GingerGM let me say first i like all your segments from speed runs to long play games and titled tuesday (though i think you should pay attention to when your time starts in games of titled tuesdays i see you playing with downed time at times haha) second i want to really thank you for all the content you provide. i like your style and your personality therefore happy to support in a little way i can i cant afford subscriptions but did buy your dragadorf book and your killer dutch and london system. they are fantastic. would love to see something on the hillbilly i think you call it, would so buy it. lastly i dont think the third game (first loss) was cheating you did have bad accuracy because you tried to get tricky. the 800 rating doesnt mean that they are, doesnt your rating say the same? totally think the last game was cheating. your a man to admire they way you take it on board and still use it to teach us. thank you thank you thank GingerGM p.s lets see you sing more and more Gchess analysis please
I was shocked to see myself at 100% for a recent game; however, the game was over after just half a dozen moves or so. My opponent hung a piece and rather than struggle on he resigned. We were still in book. So, under those circumstances, it's possible. Almost all of my games are peppered with some inaccuracies. Blunders in a good many of them.
100% they're cheaters. I can't stand people like that. They ruin the game for everyone. Notice the timing of their moves, like a metronome. 3 to 5 seconds for every move. No long thinks, no quick moves. They're using an engine. Sorry you had to deal with these jerks, Simon! The content is still great!
I have one question. I make on my games between 50% to 90% precision rate and i have 680 rate. What does this mean? I'm just curious because I just started playing last year and I think this is a very good precision average. This is normal, just luck or something else?
It's a percentage of moves that you make that are either excellent replies or the best replies to your opponent's moves in reference to the engine's analysis of the position. Basically if you had a high accuracy you played good moves in whatever position you were in. You can play accurate moves in a losing position and still lose
Hey Simon . super instructive chess video thanks. Hey look on the bright side of life. The lecture arrows are orange ginger color ! Yes the standard game report feature is such a great tool, When I see 0 inaccuracies it is a big red flag, unless its a short game won in under 20 moves say. Even if a very strong player was using an anonymous account I would expect some inaccuracies or at least 1. Although like you said there is always a chance opponents play all the top moves. Therefore next time or in the future it might be better to make an anonymous username too. Because I feel your username is like waving the proverbial in front of a angry bull. Its nice to see how calm you were. Strangely sometimes I play better with a little TILT. thanks mate.
Please do more videos around the 800 level. I'm trying to understand how they can still be rated less than 1000 when they are winning games by cheating. Do they intentionally loose games so they can cheat in other games?
It always baffles me, people I guess want to play for the satisfaction of a victory even if they don't earn it. Cheating on computer games in general is just getting so old. The worst part is, in some of my games at a low level, I play against people who I could never prove cheat but feels like they use an engine some of the time. For me, I'm most likely paranoid but at the same time, people just don't like to lose and will stop at nothing.
Thanks for bringing us your series. Liked how you dealt with that with humility and humour - class!
Simon started the stream with "How to find beginner's mistakes" and ended up analyzing his own mistakes. Funny and very entertaining. 😂
are you one of those cheats in the video?
@@martinet1985 cringe
@esp ele what
@esp ele shut
@esp ele are u trolling with me or are u serious
The 600-900 rating range is absolutely polluted by cheaters. Just play the 10 minute Rapid tournament and you'll be blasted off the board by at least one of them.
Not even. It's people like GingerGM who are smurfing lol
How can they be so bad that they stay in the
@@aurelienherve6658 cheat detection is pretty good on both major sites. I'm no expert, but I would guess that there are more cheaters in that bracket simply because they're obvious enough to get caught before they can reach 1000
You'll find out that once you get to 1100 level all the cheaters start dying off and the quality of chess dips slightly. I bashed an 1130 today to pieces yet I have played 600s who bash me to pieces and have like 90+ accuracy.
the tournaments are complete trash for cheating, it's so frustrating cos I want to play random games against higher rated players, just not 3300+ rated engine readers
Great video Simon - you had me laughing the entire second half. You’re a natural comedian and as always, I love your chess insights.
Simon, I think it’s great when grand masters play speed runs at this level and catch cheaters. It’s ridiculously difficult for us amateurs to try and navigate through these minefields of cheats
Not too difficult. Just click analysis if you think sus and report them. You may then get your rating points back
I have done a speedrun myself, ofcourse I am not a gm so I set my target to 1500. I have played a new account from 400 to 1500 and not encountered a single cheater this time. So I think it is better right now. On my main account however ( from new year to about July) I got my ratings refunded every 10th game or something like that. I remember how crazy that was. But right now I feel like it has become much better
If Simon plays sharp book lines, goes wrong and gives his opponent a natural attack that plays itself, many new players will follow through.
Where were the unnatural "computer moves" that could only be understood by deep analysis of many variations?
@@RobBCactive What you say it's just not true. You really think a 800 can play a perfect game and beat a gm in a 5 min game? 99.5 accuracy against a gm is impossible for an 800 ELO player, even for a 2300, come on. Not even a small mistake when there are millions of options.
When an opponent plays sharp book lines, goes wrong and gives his opponent a "natural" attack, many new players would just hang a piece or miss the whole idea of the position; they don't play 20+ moves of engine theory, that's for sure.
@@benjamiheras9294 As I'm no GM yet played a few perfect games after the opening I know you're wrong.
Some positions are easy to play.
22:00 he was defintely a cheat. Not even a GM is getting a 99.5% accuracy level in speed chess. But some random bloke with an 800 rating is? No way
Its possible I have gotten 93% in a 31 move game
And twice 99,7% in a 3 move Scandinavian (1250 rating) but he was most likely cheating
@@Djerszium 93 is not close to 99.5. also 3 move games do not count
@@alon3304 you got that accuracy against someone with similar rating to you. not against a grandmaster.
@@Djerszium yeah but getting 99,5 against GM its almost imposible, if ur oponnent makes blunder every move it is easy to get 99,5 accuracy
i'm rated between 400-500 in blitz and played the craziest game, 95 accuracy for me and my opponent at that rating lmao
Sorry this happens to you, champ. If it's any consolation you've proven that GM's are not only experts at the game but also generous and humble ambassadors to the sport.
Not true. There are GMs who have been caught cheating. There are cheaters in all walks of life. GingerGM is a good ambassador for chess though I agree with that.
@@SuperYtc1 - I watched a video about Mikhail Tal that showed that he did in effect cheat when he played Bobby Fischer. Apparently Fischer had a habit of writing down his next move before he made it, and since in those days, it was possible to call for a recess/break whenever you wanted one (the championship games went on for days sometimes), Tal would call for a break after noticing that Fischer's next move was going to be a killer.
Obviously you couldn't call for a break after your opponent had moved - but Fischer's habit gave him an advantage.
So happy you're doing this series! A lot of RUclipsrs do speedruns but this is the speedrun I've been waiting for!!
Simon is admirably cool after having his stream ruined by (admittedly expected) cheaters. Ironically it makes the stream better so it wasn't ruined at all.
Cheating in online chess is a real scourge and is really discouraging. So sad you faced it in back to back games as well.
That's just unlucky. If you think one cheater is back, nah fancy getting them back to back
Thanks for the content Simon its always great stuff. A little tip for ya fella, be careful with your name choice, people will happily throw away an account to see a GM play Stockfish. Be a bit more incognito and you might not get as much of this!
name suggestion: secretbeerfella
It's unlikely people still cheat regardless of the name. I mean Danya (GM Daniel Nar..) does informative games like this and he still runs into cheaters when he's incognito. Plus GMs are the only ones who can get rid of cheaters really, so them cheating cause of his name is probably advantageous for the community as a whole.
@@APFreakwiz a cheater just makes a new account. No fuss really. You can't get rid of them sadly
@@APFreakwiz you're not wrong but two in a row is quite something. Haven't seen that on Danyas speedruns
@@UltrabaumatOmega Harrypawnstar
I’ve seen other videos where GMs refuse to say the “c” word. It’s refreshing to see someone addressing it openly.
Example?
@@WillyToulouse I don’t want to call anybody out in a negative way, but I’ve seen chess brahs roll their eyes talking about how good a player is and how surprising it is that he just lost to a 1400. I think that’s a funny way to handle it too and have no problem with that. I think the intention is not to give these players attention and so not to inspire others to follow suit, but we all know what’s going on. I think some of the chess 24 streamers are guilty of getting annoyed then speaking in code in a not humorous way. That’s what gets on my nerves.
I had to laugh. Simon's face when his 4th opponent played theory in the opening is priceless ( 24:18 mark ). I bet I was thinking "oh... not again!". Thank you for the lessons and the entertainment.
there was a 30 second cut there too so we didn't get the juiciest bit
It's Magnus doing a speed run on another channel.
I've started assuming I'm either playing a comp or a GM..done wonders for my rating. Cheers!!
Premature Attackulation.
Genius from the Ginger One!
Watching that last one, I was like there’s no way an 800 hasn’t hung a piece already.
Maybe you can get audience members to play you at each rating. It would be super instructive and there may be more incentive not to cheat.
Great idea. @gingergm I’m around 700 and would be happy to volunteer!
This!
up
Viewers cheat as well. At least in some viewer games I’ve seen or sub battles, cheaters have no shame
These common mistake speedrun videos are by far my favorite on youtube. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos !
You being ticked off yet still professionally dealing with it the way you did actually made this one hilarious
Your speedrun videos have clearly been some of your most successful, especially recently. I very much appreciate them and look forward to watching this series develop!
Thanks very much for posting. The cheating was flagrant yet you were restrained and humble in the face of it. I hadn't realised the cheating was so widespread so I'm pleased to know. Thanks again
Thanks for posting this stream Simon. Being quite frequently crushed must demoralise a lot of players. This stream really highlights the problem.
I get crushed by humans and I crush other humans, that's chess
29:00 to 30:30 the second cheat with a 99.2% accuracy
Thx so much for the practical beginner content in a format of what I’ve come to call “chess out loud.” Hearing the real-time explanations and thinking process is very helpful.
Cheaters are a part of online chess - no surprise. But good to see the factors you measure to figure if it’s just a good game or suspicious enough to report.
So glad this series is back! Entertaining and infuriating too, perfect haha
Dear Simon
I love your speedrun videos. You give deep insights how a very strong player approaches the game. And you show the complexity of the game which means that there are always numerous factors to be considered. And for the cheaters please don't let them come to you and imbalance you. You're a very strong and humerous chess player which offers a lot of very helpful advice! Thousands of cheaters won't change this. And again, I thank you for your work, Simon!
Love these videos, and don't let the cheaters get to you! They're abundant at the lower levels, sadly. I really wish you would do like 10 | 0 with analysis afterwards about the opening you chose and responses to moves etc. I know that might be giving away some stuff, but I always learn a lot from the Narodisky-like approach to teaching and with your knowledge... I mean there's a lot to learn from a great player like yourself. Also, longer time controls = less cheaters, in my experience.
i actually fullly disagree, it is well known the longer the time format the more likely cheaters are to be
@@camerondavis6607 Not if it is too long tho, i highly doubt a cheater would have the patience to play, say a 60|0 game just to look up engine lines for every move in 5 seconds and wait 5 minutes for the opponent to think
Clearly cheaters spoil the fun but this time I must say this video really made me laugh ! Thank you Simon for taking it with humour and for sharing the video anyway. It was very funny to watch the crushing of a GM by computers :-)
These cheaters need to be handled gingerly
hey! i see what you did there!
Cheaters need to be handled by the guillotine.
we need more speedruns like this to clean all the riffraff out of my rating. Thank you for your videos
GM gets steamrolled by two 800 players? Not gonna happen without cheating.
Even 1 800 is an impossibility.
@@Leipaa even 10 800s is an impossibility.
Thnx for that speedrun and it's very annoying with those cheaters!! I hate cheaters, lowlife clowns pretending they can play excellent chess..I report also those cheaters on Lichess where I play on. Love your series Simon and keep up your great work and vids. Cheers!
I agree, cheaters are the scum of the earth
2:35 "...the Italian variation of the Ruy Lopez". But since the Ruy Lopez is Bb5, this is not an accurate label, is it? This is the Italian Game, not the Ruy Lopez. (Specifically: Italian Game, Two Knights Defense, Max Lange Attack)
Ginger GM is only a grandmaster, you can't expect him to know the names of openings.
Please try this episode again, the first game was an excellent example of the stupid mistakes I make.
Just gotta love Simon! It says so mutch GOOD about him that even after a 700 playing 10 moves of theory he still is not explicitly suspecting the opponent of cheating. (No 700 knows ANY theory and plays it that fast.) Some would call it naive. I honestly think it's a sign of good character. You rock Simon!
Forgive me for asking a stupid question, but how does BF1 prevent losing d5? Around here 8:32
Never mind the cheaters... we love the speedrun! please, keep it going!
Great video Simon! QQ: isn't the ruy Lopez Bb5? Bc4 is Italian game?
Ginger GM has the best personality for these speedrun videos
"How do I trick him here?"
You can't trick an engine, sorry.
GM playing an 800 says "Maybe I'm relaxing a bit too much at this rating" lmao
Anyone that says there is no cheating below 2000 needs to be directed to this video haha
Hey Simon. Please make more of these speedrun series. I enjoyed and learned a lot from it.
This speedrun gives me some heart.... it's depressing playing against what seems like similar low level players like myself only to be outclassed from the off. So where does it go from here? Playing in private online rooms only where everyone is vetted?
Glad you’re back with the speed run! Get this man 1M followers!
I love it. 800's playing stronger than super GMs. 99.5% accuracy? Really?
Did you get updates on the cheaters?
These are your best series. I liked the first 2 episodes better, the cheaters do spoil it. If you can do a 90 minute episode that would be awesome!
I wish they highlighted in game that the opponent is 99% accurate after so many moves and it's suspicious. Really annoying!!!!!! Thanks for your series very informative, don't let the cheaters win!
But accuracy can't always determine whether they're cheating
Fantastic series and insight. Thank you.
Is it worth having a completely random username for your speed runs? Saying GingerGM - Speedrun may induce some cheaters to cheat against you? The thinking being that they can 'beat' a GM doing a Speedrun.
yeah that's what I was thinking. it might introduce trolls
Cosign. Come up with some totally random nobody name, Ginger!
You set a good example here. Respect. 👍😀
The frightening thing is there might be an advantage to learning this way. Sitting in the cockpit with the engine, you can get a front row seat learning live how an engine dismantles your opponent while adding in a little input of your own. This seems far superior than standard methods of theoretical study. No one talks about this because they are either doing it, or they are worried about giving some people justification in their actions.
Great vids and please keep up the speed runs. I’m not new to chess but I am new to studying it and really learning theory and these vids are quite helpful. I agree with the field, wether they were cheating or not, your patience and professionalism shows that it’s about the knowledge and education. Thanks again.
I just came to see cheaters, but after your video you became my favourite chess youtuber. Thank you for your explanations, I really can learn much from you.
Bro, you are a cheater's magnet, you are the streamer who runs the most into those ones, incredible XDDDD
Unfortunately the boom in chess brought about by Queen's Gambit and the likes of Hikaru means that all their acolytes are now getting online eager to emulate their heroes and then crying when they run into people who have actually read a few chess books, so they turn to Stockfish so they can laugh at their opponents and shout 'Game Ovah!!' after each perfect win.
Please more e4 speed runs. Great stuff - never seen the castles and d4 idea instead of fried liver
I am impressed by your personality. Smile to the world and it smiles back at you.
I don't think stockfish was playing "above his rating", Simon
22:59 I'm sure if you were playing a GM you would have thought it through more, you couldn't have known he was cheating, you hard on yourself as usual! :) (I'm assuming he was cheating, no 800 plays like that lol). Really interesting and fun as always, thanks :)
Here it is.. ❤️ thanks simon and please keep posting these speed run videos 🔥
premature attack? white plays a3 then engages in required piece defence attack what do you think
The first opening you showed was Italian 3 Bc4, Spanish/Ruy Lopez 3 Bb5
As a perennial 800' player.. those guys are clearly cheating. No way we play like that lol.
This video shows the real challenges faced by us mere mortals at
Hello man. Do you auto-promote your pawn to queen? Thanks
Online chess now consists of cheaters. Some of them are like this guys, just cheating all the way, others - just in tough positions “finding” couple of saving/winning moves. Seen it billion of times
The ones that open terribly, then get the cheats on after 15 moves and pull out the miracle after being 3 pawns and a Knight down. I hate online chess because of this.
@@richiejbhoy1888 that is harder to detect and harder to prove. As I guess their accuracy level isnt insane, but they pull out the win through cheating.
@@lukebignell7846 if I analyse it, I can see they find the absolute best moves 5 6 moves in a row in the middle game. I just report them immediately. It's so obvious when you're playing them.
I love the content but, Simon, when did 3 Bc4 become the Ruy Lopez?! It seems your transposed Spain and Italy. ;-)
These videos are fascinating. A great aid!
30:31 Another cheater, odds on that lol! As you say at 800 (my level), even if you are winning, we normally struggle to convert it to a checkmate lol
What happened to the "put that in your pipe and smoke it"? Did Simon have any problem with that catchphrase? It was the best part of the stream!
Superbly educational and totally entertaining. We can all learn more even if we are up against cheats. Sincere respect.
Very entertaining. Simon handles it very well. I dont understand why people are cheating...except from getting exposed in RUclips videos.
You’re a class act, Sir.
Spare a thought for those who lost to cheaters before detection was easily provable. Gave up correspondence chess 25 years ago when my 2508 peak was obliterated by the first generation of computer cheaters. Decades of study and improvement countered by arseholes with a mediocre program running to many ply over a few days each move.
So sad to read this comment but so true. Such a sad indictment of the modern world.
@@danjeory3659 Thanks for that
GingerGM let me say first i like all your segments from speed runs to long play games and titled tuesday (though i think you should pay attention to when your time starts in games of titled tuesdays i see you playing with downed time at times haha)
second i want to really thank you for all the content you provide. i like your style and your personality therefore happy to support in a little way i can i cant afford subscriptions but did buy your dragadorf book and your killer dutch and london system. they are fantastic. would love to see something on the hillbilly i think you call it, would so buy it.
lastly i dont think the third game (first loss) was cheating you did have bad accuracy because you tried to get tricky. the 800 rating doesnt mean that they are, doesnt your rating say the same? totally think the last game was cheating. your a man to admire they way you take it on board and still use it to teach us.
thank you thank you thank GingerGM p.s lets see you sing more and more Gchess analysis please
Glad this series is back!
I was shocked to see myself at 100% for a recent game; however, the game was over after just half a dozen moves or so. My opponent hung a piece and rather than struggle on he resigned. We were still in book. So, under those circumstances, it's possible. Almost all of my games are peppered with some inaccuracies. Blunders in a good many of them.
featured game starts 13:10
The speed run ran into some speed bumps LOL
At 19:49, that 800 had some help. 99%? What a turd.
100% they're cheaters. I can't stand people like that. They ruin the game for everyone. Notice the timing of their moves, like a metronome. 3 to 5 seconds for every move. No long thinks, no quick moves. They're using an engine. Sorry you had to deal with these jerks, Simon! The content is still great!
Simon, you are my favorite streamer and if I ever get to London I'll buy you a beer.
Amazing series! Keep it up!
It really crazy how u play some advanced opening prep ideas against a 800 I mean these people can't even come up with a decent middle game plan
I have one question. I make on my games between 50% to 90% precision rate and i have 680 rate. What does this mean? I'm just curious because I just started playing last year and I think this is a very good precision average. This is normal, just luck or something else?
It's a percentage of moves that you make that are either excellent replies or the best replies to your opponent's moves in reference to the engine's analysis of the position. Basically if you had a high accuracy you played good moves in whatever position you were in. You can play accurate moves in a losing position and still lose
If you blunder a lot or make a mistake your accuracy falls
It’s hilarious how he was so bad he didn’t even see the simplest mate in one in the game, the ladder mate.
ruy lopez is 3...bb5?
Interesting video! Thanks for posting.
Great series
Hey Simon . super instructive chess video thanks. Hey look on the bright side of life. The lecture arrows are orange ginger color ! Yes the standard game report feature is such a great tool,
When I see 0 inaccuracies it is a big red flag, unless its a short game won in under 20 moves say. Even if a very strong player was using an anonymous account I would expect some inaccuracies or at least 1. Although like you said there is always a chance opponents play all the top moves. Therefore next time or in the future it might be better to make an anonymous username too. Because I feel your username is like waving the proverbial in front of a angry bull. Its nice to see how calm you were. Strangely sometimes I play better with a little TILT. thanks mate.
Please do more videos around the 800 level. I'm trying to understand how they can still be rated less than 1000 when they are winning games by cheating. Do they intentionally loose games so they can cheat in other games?
more speedruns please. awesome content! thanks
Simon is basically playing against Stockfish.
best series. thank you.
It always baffles me, people I guess want to play for the satisfaction of a victory even if they don't earn it. Cheating on computer games in general is just getting so old. The worst part is, in some of my games at a low level, I play against people who I could never prove cheat but feels like they use an engine some of the time. For me, I'm most likely paranoid but at the same time, people just don't like to lose and will stop at nothing.
"Hopefully" in your case, they play stupidly the top engine move with 99% accuracy, and then that is easier to catch them.
I'm sure 2.NF3 isn't the Ruy Lopez like you're calling it. I always thought Nf3 Bb5 was the Ruy Lopez
how come a guy cheating with an engine, plays over 400 games but is still on only 800 rating?
Probably saw his username and thought he could “beat” a grandmaster
Thanks Simon - you are fantastic!!