A better way to put it into perspective is that Gon's adult transformation is linear, whereas training isn't taken into account. If he continued to train his power could increase exponentially.
Kurapikas kit initially is a lot more pigeonholed though where it’s clearly restricted to its fullest potential vs spiders. He did this by design and nen has a way of working to the resolve of its user. He had a strong desire to accomplish this, and was willing to make the appropriate restrictions and pledges. You can see what someone who has great potential but no desire for COMBAT looks like in Leorio. By all accounts should be incredibly strong based off physical stats and his nen ability but it comes from a desire to help and as such there’s no need to make it more then what it is.
And that's what we love about Kurapika. He is not a prodigy, doesn't have monster-level potential, but he is a genius, and he uses his intelligence to defeat opponents normally stronger then him. He also have a very powerful will to defeat the spiders, and this is what makes him stronger in a system where will is pretty much the source of power. Not only he limited his most powerful Hatsu to only be used on 12 humans ever (like, being able to force somebody in Zetus is pretty much transforming them into normal humans), every second he uses his special ability, Emperor Time, his lifespan shortens by 1 hour, so for a 5 minute fight at full power he looses 12.5 days of his life. So pretty much he does the exact same thing Gon did against Pitou but at a much smaller, controlled way. And if you think about it, Gon wasted a lot of Nen in that condition, he could probably defeat Pitou with half or even a 3rd of that power, and with that his life probably wouldn't be in danger. But yeah, one time in manga he used Emperor Time for 3 hours and pass out while he was in that state, meaning the emperor time was on the whole 6 hour nap as well, 9 hour of it shortened his lifespan with almost 4 years, he will definitely won't live long if he keeps using that power, probably would die shortly after he is finishing with dealing with the spiders. Unless some post-mortum-nen revives him like it happened with Hisoka, or Killua somehow gets notice of that sacrifice and uses Nanika to give back his lost years before he dies, or who knows, maybe Killua would just plainly wish to revive him? Not sure if it's possible, but until now there were no wishes Nanika can't perform, but if there is any limitations, probably she/he/it can't revive, since the cost for wishes is also in human lives, so.
Nah it actually makes sense. You have to understand that Killua and Gon both took the “childish” route to understanding and learning about nen. You see both of their potentials are likely higher than Kurapika (infact we could probably assume Kurapika is in his prime right now) - but Kurapika took his time to better think out and understand what he wanted to accomplish when learning about nen. He wasn’t doing it to increase his power for no purpose, he was doing it for his goals. It’s implied that when given a purpose, nen is way more effective in general. So coupled with Kurapikas intense drive to complete his goals, and his high level of intelligence to craft techniques and restrictions that work perfectly to accomplish that said goal - it makes sense why Kurapika became so much more powerful than them.
To be fair, Kurapika was showing his boss level skill from the hunter exam, he just lacked the physical ability to pull Killua levels of feats... so then he learned nen and played the system.
conditions were significantl more strict for him . and killua and gon spent a lo of time not training nen betweeb arcs whilst kurapika was 100% focused on getting strong .
Speaking of anime differences, my boy Leorio got robbed. Him being able to open the Second Zoldyck gate by himself, something even Gon or Kurapika couldn't do, was the only time his monstrous potential was showcased.
Ging shows that his Nen ability could be legitimately overpowered if he applied it in a combat scenario, I get that Leorio is more of a doctor type but he should really get some combat training
I like it too but it does feel overly complicated at times. They’ll give explanations and breakdown what’s essentially just fortifying your natural abilities all the time, separating into groups which just feels cumbersome to me. But that’s my opinion.
@@thelettucebarrel7784 Idk I feel like if it was fewer categories things would become a lot more confusing and much more vague. Knowing that nen usually fits in a few categories makes it a lot easier to understand imo.
@@kobe9063 I can see that but I’m not necessarily talking about enhancers and conjurers and whatever, just how literally everything in it has a name even if it doesn’t need it’s own unique explanation, not to mention the names all sound pretty similar.
@@odearodear6390he wasn’t strong because the vow was restrictive. The deal he made was his life for all the power he would ever possess, meaning adult gon was just something he would’ve eventually achieved
@JustTryinaDuck Yes but it would've been achieved through like decades of training like Netero did, because the vow was so restrictive that he was literally giving up his life that's why he was able to gain so much power that he didn't have at that moment
@@JustTryinaDuck yea what adult gon is how strong gon would be if he grown at the same rate as he have based on his current strength every adult gon wouldn’t be the same because as you grow stronger you surpass yourself than you were previously
Honestly i think Gon already unconsciously set a condition that makes it so he must say the whole janken thing and stand in place, which is why it amplifies so much. Not confirmed but we do know conditions could be set without the user realizing
@@teagor9505 I think Killuas dad is smart enough to have left out nen training until after Killua became physically indomitable. Once he was sure of Killuas physical capabilities, I’m sure the nen training would’ve come right after, but Killua ran away from home. Killua was in the middle of his development, got cocky, ran away, and returned to let them know he’d figure things out on his own. His Dad trusted him to do so- so much so that he maniacally laughs about how Killua is likely to return in search of more power. Now that Killua has a hatsu ability in development, he’ll likely seek out techniques with varying levels of utility like Zenos dragon dive, or Silvas plasma blast attack. With his goal being to protect Alluka, there’s literally 0 chance that he’s not constantly trying to figure out ways to get stronger, strong enough to defeat his father or Illumi with ease. I can picture him going to Zeno for guidance, and potentially Silva, although I’m pretty sure Killua doesn’t trust the core of his family anymore. Either way I think it’s not far fetched that they left nen training out of Killuas regimen as he was learning assassin trade techniques and developing physically. A more physically abled and capable assassin version of Killua learning nen would be demonically dangerous, his hatsu might have taken a far more sinister form too.
@@cubbwatch Sounds plausible, fit in Kalluto, who didn't seem to be physically incapable either, but had nen experience in the equation. The only way I can think of in the 5 seconds, is because they were dead set on making Killua the heir of the family, so his training was slower, longer and more focussed.
@@teagor9505 It might be. I know that this is partially cope but to me it feels like they didn't teach him because of his potential, having him be not to strong might have been a way to buy time for him to become more divided to the family
I agree it's obvious, but massively disagree with the conclusion. Post-needle Killua, if serious, would kill Chimera Ant kid Gon before he even had time to think about using rock. Gon is a primary enhancer, sure, but Killua can also use enhancement (it's one of his secondary attributes), and is actually MUCH stronger physically. He is also absurdly faster, more skilled, smarter and a no bullshit trained assassin who goes straight for the kill and knows all of Gon's tricks. I can accept that Gon's aura output is higher, but except for jan-ken, it's not by much. And Gon's finisher is balanced by taking time to charge, something Killua would never give him. About the end of the serie, knowing the themes and the author, I doubt Gon will be anywhere near the peak of the verse. It's just not his style. Much more likely that he retires and goes have a simple life back home.
While Killua is indeed faster and more experienced in combat, Gon's transformation gave him a raw power that could potentially overwhelm Killua in a head-to-head confrontation. Gon's Rock attack, even though it requires charging, packs an incredible amount of destructive force that could pose a serious threat to Killua, especially if it connects.
@@gamerx392 so Gon is just completely outclassed by Godspeed, and I’d even argue that Gon is outclassed by pre-Godspeed Killua. Gon is just never going to get off the hit (especially the Rock one. Because Killua is faster than him (not by much), has ranged options, and Gon needs a LOT of time to charge it up. It’s just not happening. If you want to add In transformation Gon into the mix then I’d say Killua gets completely stomped, but then Killua can sacrifice all his potential as well and then it’s basically just an argument between child Gon and child Killua with Godspeed.
@@gamerx392 It would never connect tho Killuas Godspeed is designed to dodge attacks before they are thrown and Killua being a lot faster means he can blitz Gon everytime he tries to charge JanJenKen and stop the activation
@@_Sloppyham Gon has repeatedly demonstrated exceptional adaptability and determination in challenging situations. When faced with formidable opponents, Gon finds ways to adjust his tactics and capitalize on openings.
@@lsdoncrackwubbalubbadubdub1387 It's true that Godspeed grants Killua incredible speed and reflexes, enabling him to dodge attacks with precision. This makes it challenging for opponents like Gon to land hits directly. However, Gon's Rock attack, while requiring charging time, has shown impressive destructive power and range. Even if Killua can dodge individual attacks, Gon's strategic use of Rock can create area-of-effect damage that proves difficult to evade entirely.
Here's The timestamps to every arc of powerscaling in this video: Time Stamps: 00:59 Gon vs Killua (Hunter Exams Arc) 5:50 Gon vs Killua (Heavens Arena Arc) 10:12 Gon vs Killua (Phantom Troupe Arc) 11:00 Gon vs Killua (Greed Island Arc) 15:05 Gon vs Killua (Chimera Ant Arc) 20:30 Adult Gon vs Full Potential Gon Is Obvious 22:24 Angry Kid Gon vs Full Power Killua (Chimera Ant Arc) 25:38 Gon vs Killua (Dark Continent/Post Timeskip)
@@LeelosAdventure You can put the time stamps on the description starting with 0:00 and it will automatically set the sections directly on the video. This will auto add cuts to the video progress, creates a new window with all timestamps and when moused over, it tells you what section it is. Hope that helped and have a nice day.
Didn’t killua one shot gon when he was raging against pitu when he sat kites arm get cut off? 👀 gon was outputting a crazy amount of aura because he was pissed an killua took him down with one chop…I think killua beats gon at the end of the Ant Arch for sure, he has the speed and the destructive power to hurt/kill gon! Edit: Sorry double checked, wasn’t a chop, it was a two handed hit across the head…but still he knocked his ass out while gon had insane aura around him.
this is a good point. heres my explanation to it in 3 points: 1) In the scene you are mentioning, gon is using ren. That just increases your attack power. Ken is the nen technique that increases defense. 2) Also its implied killua hits him in the back of the head with ko. Ko is not practical in normal battle because you leave the rest of your body defenseless. this works best on off-guard opponents and backfires in normal fights (feitan vs chimera ant zazan is a good example) 3) And finally, this gon was wayyyyy weaker than invasion gon. After this scene, gon and killua have an entire training arc with bisky, increase their nen endurance 3x and he gains a ton more battle experience, then gets a massive anger amp on top of that. Basically, in my video i compare end of chimera ant gon to end of chimera ant killua. thats a completely different gon than the one who gets knocked out off guard by killua. He's several times stronger end of chimera ant arc than he was start of chimera ant arc.
@@LeelosAdventure I see your points. It’s just that the way you explained it in the videos implies that just having a crazy more amount of aura then your opponent that they wouldn’t even be able to damage you. And even tho gon was “off guard” he still was spiking in aura which was covering his entire body and killua was still able to knock him out while still holding back of course because he wasn’t trying to kill him, just knock him unconscious.
@@gtxyurni also as far as them getting stronger, killua also gets insanely stronger. So much so that he didn’t need a nen condition to close the gap between him and a royal guard like how gon did. Without a nen condition killua should win low difficulty, and even with the nen condition killua can definitely out speed gon and do enough destructive power to damage adult gon.
The fact that Killua has spent his whole life Training, and Gon was able to get close to him in about a couple of days. (Almost landing a hit on Netero, while Killia gave up) Gon’s potential trumps Killua’s skill, intelligence, and training. But I think a battle between them would almost be even because of Killua’s experience/intelligence/training. But I think Gon would have the slight edge.
One thing I’d like to mention about Killua though is that you could technically say Killuas training in his upbringing was more or less just how he was raised, I don’t think he was trained too seriously. Baring in mind he was assassinating non users at this point (regular humans), he was learning to do something that is pretty average in the hunter x Hunter verse. I think Gons training as a kid was actually nearly as harsh because he was pretty much raised in the wild his whole childhood, that’s how he actually got his animal instincts
Killua is obviously stronger from the beginning of the series to the end imo. The only time it’s close is right before Killua gets godspeed. That being said, Gon is more useful in combat. It’s stated that he’s more focused and at times more ruthless than even Killua, meaning he can take out stronger opponents. Sometimes strength isn’t the end all be all
Kite and brisky said Gon have a slow start when it come to actually combat from fighting.Killua have more easier he been train as kid in combat fighting
@@ImTheMan0fSteel Pitou was scared of what he was going to do with Komugi Narrator even says that Gon, Killua and Knuckle together would be easy for Pitou
Debates aside, I find the topic of "how Gon's abilities could change" extremely interesting. I agree with you completely that Gon's experiences could change his category, possibly even to specialist, but even if that doesn't happen, imagine how much he could improve the functionality of his existing ability. Most of the most powerful and skilled nen-users typically seem to combine multiple categories into one ability, whereas Gon simply chooses either his inate category, or one of his adjacent ones. Imagine how potent an enhancer could be if they always incorporated the adjacent categories. Especially with the recent emphasis on emission having teleportation abilities. For example, what if Gon's ability was still a punch, but just before it charged fully, the aura briefly adapted the properties of light, like a DBZ Solar Flare, and then he could teleport himself one time before throwing the punch. "Gon, you are light."
One of the best thing about Togashi is his love for details, believe me when I say, the details ( complexity) of the nen system is one of the main reasons we love it so much
Okay but during greed Island, saying “Gon one shots Kilua with rock” but we saw with Genthru, that attack isn’t going to hit someone who’s fast. He had to basically trap Genthru ahead of time to hit him with it?
@@carlososler7024he lasts long enough to beat someone like Gon and he doesn't even need it if we're being honest. His lightning was strong enough to stun the likes of Youpi who the hell is Gon😆
The thing with killua attack is that even with aura being bigger in the opponent side the electrocuted effect will mess with everything and wil do absurd damage
I agree with you on Invasion Gon vs invasion Killwa , the only thing that I can think of about Gon is his extremely fast adaptability during the battle, in all of Gon's fights he always thinks and adapts to compensate his lack of experience
Looking at Aura like weight classes is actually a really inspired comparison. It shifts the battle in one person’s favor, but enough skill can technically pull out a victory
I thought the video was really good untill the end, kind of turned me off ngl. I dont want the series to ever turn even close to what the described, it feels more like Yu yu hakusho anyway which fits that series much more.
That would been a great interesting match up post meruem and adult Gon. Pitou know the potential of Gon was afraid what happen if these ever clash go thing pitou took Gon revenge anger.
And considering both Gon and Killua are similar in talent and power overall, those two at their peak would be even stronger than Netero and Meruem if they keep up their training
@laquanlucas6953 I think Meruem wins tho cause Pitou said he matched the King but she never saw him after the rose so she didn't know he gained even more power
@@TheWarden04and even that claim is false lol. She said his fangs may reach the king, not that his output or capabilities are the level of the Kings. Anything that could kill the king (even someone that the King could mid-dif like Netero) is a “threat” in the Royal Guard’s eyes.
You judt earned a sub! It is very rare for people to have the same conclusion as me as to where the story goes next. Others just accepted gon n killuas story ended after Chinera arc. I judy hope togashi makes it
This is why HxH is more interesting than most series. You can't just say "person X is stronger than Y because he has a bigger power level!" It honestly depends on a bunch of factors: why are they fighting? Where are they fighting? In which saga is this happening? What's at stake? Normaly 80% of the time I would bet on Killua of course but if Gon for some insane reason was willing to do the Pitou thing then of course it's Gon
Killua, always at any point except when Gon yolod the fight against Pitou. In strenght, speed, reflexes, inteligence and battle experience Killua is always ahead. Only Willpower is where Go takes the cake by a landslide.
@@adzo147 they'd be like near netero level even just as teens. atleast killua will be, idk if gon's gonna have to start from scratch since his nen is gone, if he even gets his nen back.
I think Killua beats Gon at the end of chimera ant arc. The key is not via Godspeed rush attack but the opposite, Godspeed dodge mode. We know the Gon has a higher capacity than Killua, however I think that Gon using Rock consume a larger percent of Gon's aura capacity compared to Killua using Godspeed to dodge. We know Killua can activate Godspeed in bursts, so in a drawn out fight if Killua focuses on dodging and using Godspeed bursts as a panic button specially against Rock, the battle would eventually reach a point where Gon's aura falls low enough where Killua's Godspeed Rush can then seal the deal.
Physical strength = Gon Speed = Killua IQ= Killua Battle IQ = Gon Agility = Killua Experience = Killua Durability = Killua ( I’m kinda .. conflicted about the durability because Gon was literally fighting someone and was still standing after both his arms got blown off but Killua was tortured )
i also think its relevant to bring up whether or not they are in character. i think in character, the fight is in gons favor even if we assume his nen is less than triple killuas. but if its just stat block vs stat block id say its like a 6 or 7 out of 10 in favor of killua
This was a great video, I agreed with pretty much everything but idk if using meruem for the relationship between total aura and if certain attacks can hurt an opponent was right, remember even down to fodder chimera ants has exoskeletons that gives them superhuman durability, Rammot having so much that before unlocking nen he survived nen attacks from gon and killua, so meruem being the ant king can also just have INSANE levels of natural durability besides having greater Aura, I think when it comes to human opponents killua in God speed is very dangerous even to those with a fair deal high nen capacity, which is why I would put him comfortably above gon with Godspeed outside of Adult Gon
@@Off_tomuch Him saying Gon’s Ken output is that high (7-14k aura) would mean, at the high end, that his output with Ken is more than half the amount of aura he actually has, which would burn his aura reserves instantly as we know he has around 21,500 maybe a little more during the Palace Invasion, given he went bankrupt against Knuckle and that maximum doesn’t change regardless of how mad Gon gets. Gon regularly burns 600 aura per minute in combat with an output of 1,800 Ken. Although some has changed since fighting Knuckle to the Palance Invasion, following that ratio and using only what we know, should be able to give us a general estimate. With an output of 7,000 Ken, that be more than triple the amount of aura per minute he typically burns, burning likely as much if not more aura than his 2,000 aura activation cost for Rock EVERY. SINGLE. MINUTE. That’d be ridiculous; he’d run out of aura in every fight according to his scale, and that’s on the low end. This does not include the fact that following through with Rock, Gon spends another 4,000 aura, twice his activation amount (6,000 aura is the total cost of 1 Jajanken move, possibly far higher depending on how much aura he sacrifices and time, especially so if we increase his output across the board). In short, Gon would literally run out of aura, in less time than he did against Knuckle. Needless to say, the basis of comparing Gon’s Rock to his Ken output is asinine. Gon’s output with Rock is explained by Knuckle as something that is a unique effect to Jajanken based on long build-up and sacrificing defenses. So his output with Ken is going to be different than his output with Rock, especially since Rock is functionally similar to Ko, which as we know is far stronger than base Ken without Ryu. This is further demonstrated in Gon vs. Hollow and Bat. In this fight, his Ken was at an even state (aura equally spread throughout his body); Meleorone states that Gon would not have been able to injure even the Owl ant at that state. Yet his Rock was able to send the Ant to a different country and put the fear of god in Morel; this shows his Rock is far, far stronger than his normal Ken, and it’s not even remotely comparable. Meleorone’s entire opinion on Gon changes from seeing his Rock, not his total Aura or Ken output, which, if it were enough to one-shot Morel, would be a crazy thing NOT to be impressed by. Hell, even saying Gon’s Ken output is so high that it scales to the Rock that could one-shot Morel, yet can’t one-shot a Chimera Ant Soldier like Hollow, outright refutes his comparison.
The fact this man has only 4.73k subs baffles me, the quality of this content is just amazing. A lot of thought and research has clearly gone into this. Keep it up mate!! Would love to see you with a huge fan base in the future. (+1 Sub
This video has me thinking that power scaling is an art and we just haven't seen consistent good power scaling discussion yet. When it comes to power scaling I know I mostly just see people shit talking each other's opinions (for better or worse)
@@Dudex11a you might be right. I usually check out mentally when people start throwing around 'light speed' and 'faster than light speed' for feats, because at that point it becomes utterly meaningless to me
@@axelminus Now that I'm thinking about it, discussion around power scaling can really only be meaningful depending on how well crafted a power system is and how much significance and consistency it is given narratively. Like, it's much harder to have discussion around a Marvel or DC property because writers are always changing and it seems just not as much thought and care are given to the power systems in those universes as a whole. Since not as much care is put into consistency, it's hard to make any meaningful deductions. Thank you for the response! I haven't thought about this as deeply before
@@Dudex11a i think you are exactly right. There are also scenes that are purely meant to have an awesome moment, like a character reacting last second to something they didn‘t see coming. I love these moments and wouldn‘t want to miss them, but building an entire powerscaling video off of that seems like a reach
For you *reasonable* Killua believers. Killua has Godspeed. Something Gon doesn't even know about. His, we're gonna say first form, of Godspeed, lightning speed, was complimented by two of the royal guards and tsubone the butler. When he fights youpi, his second form of Godspeed, whirlwind, is introduced. The *literal* narrator, says that this form surpasses even the *broadest* limits of the human body, due to it taking control of Killua's body, eliminating the slow reaction time of the nerve system and reacting solely based on instinct. During his fight with youpi people like to point out that Killua didn't injure him. But then again, all he was trying to do was blow off some steam because of his and Gon's argument. Not really trying to kill him. Then there's also Razor in the GI arc, he compliments hisoka and Gon, and when he gets to Killua he expands more on Killua making up for what he lacks in experience, by having that much raw talent. Killua is also very strong, with or without nen, he was able to the 5 door that weighs 64 tons or 128,000 pounds, and that is without nen, as we don't see any white aura around him. His durability is also amazing, having been tortured by his family in the form of whipping, electrocuting, and poison. Killua has been killing since the age of around 6. And if after all that you still aren't convinced, that's okay, because he will eventually be the strongest no matter what. Because, we know Zigg Zoldyck right, someone who went to the dark content with netero. It's said that netero was lucky to survive Maha, Zigg Zoldyck is stronger than Maha. And we know Killua has the most potential out of the whole Zoldyck bloodline. So if Killua is going to become stronger than Zigg, someone who survived the dark continent and was probably the one to bring those demonic dogs to be watch dogs. Would Gon be able to beat Killua then? Even now Killua can beat Gon, especially since Gon's aura nodes are closed in the recent timeline. But Killua almost always seems to be about one step in front of Gon. Except for the heavens arena arc, since Gon who's an enhancer, could more effectively use his nen, rather Killua who's a transmuter, didn't really have anything yet for his nen until GI. I won't glaze Killua as this character who can never be beat, as he's had his fair share of troubles along with Gon. As for Gon's ability to adapt to situations quickly that everyone keeps bringing up, Killua can too, maybe not as quickly or something as Gon, but he still can. As we see how he quickly finds a solution to tsubone following him and Alluka as they try to escape. He also has very good logical skills. When fighting one of the minions of Genthuru (forgot how to spell his name lowkey), we see that uses his brain to overpower the pink haired dude. Killua is, and will be stronger than Gon. Idc about Gon's nen capacity, cuz wasn't Killua able to knock him out as he was trying to prove himself? I'm being fair right now, i think that both Gon and Killua are op, but if it came down to it, Killua would most likely win. But there is another point I'd like to point out. When Gon does fully charge his Jajanken for the final blow and Killua runs to him, Killua does seem to cover himself because of how strong it it, proving that Gon is definitely strong. But Killua doesn't seen to be necessarily hurt by the immense explosion he was narrowly caught in. I'll restate this. Killua is stronger and will be stronger than Gon. Fight me on it bro and I'll rewatch the whole anime to gathr more facts because my memory is lowkey slipping. Okay, ily both Killua and Gon, bye ♥️
@@Ririkumi I agree with you that Killua is stronger in every form except Adult Gon but I disagree that he’ll always be stronger than Gon. They have the same potential and I could easily see Gon being stronger by the end of the series (if it ever gets there) I see it pretty similarly to how Yusuke and Hieis power gap ends up being at the end of the series. Of course I could be wrong but I’m always going to favor the main character having the slight edge when both are fully realized.
You are downplaying the difference between Netero and Meruem, and it's not even funny. Let's break this down by establishing two things first: Meruem has a larger Aura pool than Netero. The exact amount isn't important right now. Netero was confident he could beat Meruem in a game of endurance, which is why he wanted to wear down Meruem and then use Zero hand. But if he was using Aura to attack, he should have ran out of stamina first, right? Well, yes, but actually no. See, the 100-type Guanyin Boddhisatva is performed with Conjuration and Manipulation. The benefit to conjured objects in this is you can smack someone around with physical force, without actually putting aura into strikes, and still force your enemy to use Aura to defend themselves or get hurt. This is what was happening. His goal was to exhaust Meruem's aura supply by getting him to spend energy on defense while he exerted no energy, so he could put every drop of it into a single attack that would overwhelm and kill the weakened Meruem (its not like he wanted to use the rose). I've talked to several people about this, and I haven't been able to find another interpretation of Netero's strategy that makes sense. And yet, even when Netero put every drop of his entire Aura reserves into a single attack, Meruem was able to put out a strong enough Ken to protect himself from everything but superficial injuries, and that's not counting the fact that Netero had to prep for days to unlock Zero hand, indicating that conditions multiply its power significantly. This would be like Gon charging up a full power Rock with every drop of aura he has (which never happens, by the way), applying conditions to it to make it several times more powerful, and hitting an enemy that only gets bruised from the hit. Oh, and this being after he got smacked by thousands of purely physical attacks to wear down their aura. That's INSANE, and there's absolutely no way the difference between Netero and Meruem is only three to eight times. If I had to take a guess, it would be a hundred times, but it's hard to say for sure.
Well I just mean 3-8 times difference in total aura. Because morel has 10x less aura than youpi And the gap between Netero and meruem was implied to be smaller than the gap between morel and youpi
@@thermophile1695 from neteros hatsu producing enough force to sending meruem flying. None of morels attacks were shown strong enough to send royal guards flying Also zero hand damaged meruem. Meaning zero hand surpassed meruems nen defense at least a little For example: Youpi had 700k total aura. Let’s say he had same nen output percent as gon of 10% nen output. Then his defense would be 70,000 aura. Unless you can do 70,000 aura of damage you can’t even hurt him With meruem. He likely had 3x youpis aura(strong enough to kill all 3 royal guard by himself) meruems total aura would be 2.1 million aura Meruem nen output 10% = about 200k aura Netero total nen = about 500k aura. Lower than a royal guard If he used half his power up, he’d be at 250k by the time he fired zero hand Zero hand shoots all his remaining aura at once = about 250k aura attack And it hurt meruem a little so it all adds up. Basically in simple terms it’s like this Netero total Aura = around 500k Meruem total aura = around 2.1 million So it’s a little less than 5x more aura
@@LeelosAdventure Sending Meruem flying is because of the actual physics involved. It doesn't matter how strong you are, if you get hit by a strong enough force, you'll go flying unless you can fly, which Meruem couldn't at that point. I mean, Killia hurt Pouf pretty bad.
@@thermophile1695 well killua was only fighting a super small fragment of poufs power. Pouf gave 6/7 of his power to the king. Then he split himself into many small clones, each clone just a fraction of his remaining 1/7 power. then one of those little weak clones got destroyed by killua. it might've had less nen than killua tbh
Amazing video. Great level of detail and little pieces of lore that I never picked up from the series before. Please make some more HxH content! I would love to see a ‘Ranking the Phantom Troupe’ video from you using full manga knowledge up to date.
Cap, Killua had already developed godspeed by then. While only for a limited time, he was able to go toe to toe with Youpi. Gon needed to give up everything to beat Pitou, unfortunately.
@@FatKratos69 but gon is really resistant in rage mode I think gon rage mode wins killua after God speed You all have to remember if killua doesn't knock Gon out fast he is going to have to charge up again
There is a lot of "ifs" in this video. For example, no, Adult Gon would never one shot this version (20:40), it wasn't just two decades of aura, it was two decades of doing nothing else thain training 24/7. And jankenguu is a technique that increases the amount of aura output as it get's developed, doesn't necessarily mean that Gon's aura skyrocket doing just squats and pushups, bc that's the only thing he did in the month he couldn't use Nen, the big difference in the previous "fight" they had, was the Biscuit training. More than that, Meleoron said that even if both Killua and Gon were really strong, the one who had a captain's potencial was killua, and he couldn't have sensed it if not by the Nen aura
nowhere is it ever stated that it was "two decades of doing nothing than training". he gave up his life he didnt say "oh IF I DECIDED TO TRAIN FROM THIS POINT TIL THE REST OF MY LIFE can i have it now :D?" that would just not make sense
I think there’s a lil bit of gon glaze focusing on his Achievements when they train. The only strength training gon got was with the body guard and didn’t get any other strength training so physically killua the whole series is stronger than gon but with Ben he closes that gap with capacity but killua still has a very impressive amount of nen capacity and output and has better control than gon as seen with him using gyo in heavens arena and also training with buiscuit. Killua also has an insane amount of battle iq as seen with him getting jumped by multiple ants and also him coming up with Godspeed near death. I do think apart from adult gon there’s no point in the series gon can win. Killuas physical stats are just way above gons and he has insane experience techniques and almost equal amounts of battle iq and versatility with his hatsu. And u mention angry gon but I feel like if we include that we have to mention bloodlusted killua that fights as effectively to kill and has insane pain endurance
“Gon on the other hand, is just a genuine freak of nature.” 🤣🤣 The fact that Leorio says he’s surrounded by monsters during the exam and you saying this about Gon is hilarious 😂🤣
Nah bro he was not biased at all. He was actually very fair in his critique. He said several times Killua wins in most instances. Gon had like one instance of potentially winning / being equal and that's post Greed Island / Chimera ant arc which is actually quite fair and valid tbh.
Ngl this is a fire video, but ima have to disagree a little killua would cook gon in every single arc of the show only real debatable 1 is greed island but I'll take Killua on that one. And obviously I agree adult gon stomps killua. But other than that I have Killua destroying gon in every aspect I can debate anyone who wants just reply if u want to debate I guess 😊
I think Killua has the edge in pretty much every arc, even when they become relative in power and ability the fact remains that Gon is about as sharp as a sack of wet mice, he may be a nen prodigy, but he does not share his fathers overall genius and Killua can beat him with strategy.
Killua anytime of the day and twice on sunday. Gon have no feat that scale higher than killua beside the adult gon which is really a cheat. The author even brush aside killua after the chimera arc with the bs of travelling around the world with aluka coz killua have left gon way behind with killuas power boost during chimera arc.
Ive always interpreted rock as its own nen limitation because he has to charge it and limit it to a rock paper scissors theme, hence it being so strong
Some of the reasoning is weak. Rock is so strong because of how limiting it is to use. Imagine an mma fighter doing that. It’s impractical, which is why its so strong. It allows gon to punch as if he was in a higher weight class, for this reason using rock to scale gon as if gon is on the level of that attack is a silly thing to do. If the statement that rock makes gon dozens of times stronger is true, it means gon is able to put in what? 100 nen into most of his attacks at the most? Netero needs to do a whole prayer, and then remember one out of a hundred hand signs to make his construct do one out of hundred hyper specific attacks. It is super inconvenient, this thing being unable to cause a more substantial amount of damage implies surely that there is more than a 3x difference. Because by this logic gon could never be dozens of times stronger with rock
These are interesting points, and they’re fun to debate so I’m down. So here’s some things to consider: 1) the gon you are referring to is the gon start of chimera ant arc. He’s massively weaker than angry invasion Gon 2) Knuckle states that Gons max aura output with Ken is 1800 aura. This is after gon completes his second round of training with Bisky so it’s very possible his nen output increased massively from the time you mentioned to the time of gon vs knuckle 3) my understanding of the scene you mentioned goes like this: Gons first punch on the chimera ant was around 100 nen. It was his first punch of the fight and kite states gon takes a bit to warm up. His first punch of 100 aura was not his full power. Proven by him charging scissors right after. Then his scissors was likely around 2000 aura.
@@LeelosAdventure the logic i am using is that aura expenditure wont get equal results. Therefore determining the gap between people wont work that way. So say to do the pokey attack you do the entire hokey pokey, song and dance in the exact way a certain recording of it shows, failing to do this ends in demise, you cannot be even one frame off. But at the end you can use a super powered strike. If netero were to do this it would result in probably one shotting meruem regardless of what version of the character you use. That is to say, these attacks don’t allow you to use a higher percentage of your nen, they multiply the effectiveness of the amount of nen you put into them. A regular 2000 nen kick vs a 2000 nen rock aren’t the same. So a char with 50,000 nen could fail to scratch a character, but someone with 10,000 nen could one shot them. In the same way a 200lb man may fail to fell a chimp, but a 120lb teen thrown from a plane landing on the chimp would succeed. So, for my point against your scaling at points is that see janken and state it as if it’s actually gons level of power. When janken can only be used to scale other instances of janken and have little relevance to how strong gon is. A 2000 nen punch can do nothing, but a 2000 nen janken can one shot,
Mane i seriously hope Gon doesnt wind up getting everything back, itd ruin the severity of his sacrifice, when i think of Gon giving up everything i take into account literally everything, including his potential and nen abilities, whose to say that he’ll be able to use the same nen abilities or even be the same nen type since hes, running around with post-mortem nen it seems, hell if he can even use nen or learn it the same way as other hunters, he never specified what he was giving up (something i never considered) then Alluka complicates things more cuz it is possible she gave Gon more power or something else entirely, this is why i love HxH it’s written so theres this constant spiral of “how” the story can go in so many ways. But Gon having to possibly learn a new way to use nen would be highly intriguing, it could make Killua stronger in turn Gon would obviously show him (Ging would actually have to support his kid) and it could open a whole new power system entirely. I pray Togashi gets better and doesn’t get scared to kill off his characters or change their story trajectory, its what makes him different from the other manga writers
I say it’s Kill by a long shot honestly. IMO Kill is substantially better at analyzing and formulating plans. He’s smarter than Gon, not resorting to self destruction to learn / train his body. If this were DBZ and they got ZanKai boosts it might be a different story but Kill got this in the bag.
This is no where near accurate 😭 adult gon is the only point of time gon is stronger than Killua. Nen battles isn’t decided by who has the bigger punch and more power output in a single strike. If that was the case then kurapika would’ve been powerless against Uvogin cuz there’s no way he has nearly as much total aura or aura output but even before he caught uvogin was caught in chains he was doing damage. Shii by your logic uvogin is among the strongest characters in the series. Yes Gon has more output but it’s also stated that Killua is among if not the greatest when it comes to nen efficiency, he knows when to use his not just blast out full power. And you completely leave out Killua assassin skills like rhythm echo. Killua doesn’t have to fight him straightforward. Killua is stronger at every point of the way (except again adult gon and possible enraged gon vs pre needle removed Killua) but post needle removed Killua becomes stronger again (with Godspeed)
Thank you for your comment. But the big thing to keep in mind is this: If gon has a nen defense of 7000 aura. Then even killuas strongest and coolest looking attacks, wouldn’t even hurt gon. If you observe netero vs meruem. Or uvogin vs kurapikas body guard coworkers. You’ll see what I mean. Most of the bodyguards can’t even damage uvogin due to his aura. A sword breaks on his skin etc
Netero vs Meruem is not a good basis to compare. Netero is/was the Number Nem users. And CA’s are literally built different, both, aura, etc. wise. And Meruem is the King of Ants. With Piks vs Uvogin, that comparison isn’t good either, Uvo was a master enhancemer, Gon is not yet. And even then, Uvo’s skin was able to get cut into by others like Kurapika and the Shadow Beasts. I think u a re relying too much on numbers and aura output (which Gon can’t keep forever anyways), while forgetting other things that matter in combat and other strengths. (Like others mentioned, Apparently u didn’t mention Killua’s assassin abilities, really. And Killua has proficiency in other areas besides transmutation. Like enchantment. Which both him and Machi have a leaning towards).
Agreed, both are strong and help make up for each other’s differences and compliment each other. But Killua, imo, has almost always been shown to be stronger overall. My dude has been tortured/training/etc. his whole life. And etc.
@@LeelosAdventure Why would Gon have higher Nen defense? They would have similar, if not the same Aura. Gon can output more Aura, because he is a prodigy (like Killua is) and an enhancer. It doesn't mean Gon has more Aura (because he de doesn't).
End of series gon, PRE transformation, stomps. Pitou was scared of Gon BEFORE he transformed. She didn't dare make a move on him. And tried to stall him. She was even worried about the king lol
Pitou wasnt scared bc Gon was so strong. They were scared bc Gon was mad and using the surgery technique requires ALL attention so Pitou couldnt actually use nen to attack or defend bc they wanted to keep the blind girl alive.
I just watched that moment the other day. Angry Gon was probably stronger than Kill there, but Pitou was still the strongest. She was only worried about not being able finish the healing.
@@ViltrumiteIsRite99 it was BOTH. I am NOT saying Gon would have won here. But he absolutely could have put up a damn good fight, and still could have won with skill and planning. I'm just saying he was a threat. That's different than being stronger.
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cool vid but just couldnt help but notice u calling in the X in the name..
Awesome video I'm subbing and that jjk hunter cross was fire
A better way to put it into perspective is that Gon's adult transformation is linear, whereas training isn't taken into account. If he continued to train his power could increase exponentially.
@@CautiosulyOptimistic1440 but thats all relative noh?
Ive always found it funny how them 2 go through like 4 arcs getting stronger and kurapika just starts off on the final boss level
Kurapikas kit initially is a lot more pigeonholed though where it’s clearly restricted to its fullest potential vs spiders. He did this by design and nen has a way of working to the resolve of its user. He had a strong desire to accomplish this, and was willing to make the appropriate restrictions and pledges. You can see what someone who has great potential but no desire for COMBAT looks like in Leorio. By all accounts should be incredibly strong based off physical stats and his nen ability but it comes from a desire to help and as such there’s no need to make it more then what it is.
And that's what we love about Kurapika. He is not a prodigy, doesn't have monster-level potential, but he is a genius, and he uses his intelligence to defeat opponents normally stronger then him. He also have a very powerful will to defeat the spiders, and this is what makes him stronger in a system where will is pretty much the source of power. Not only he limited his most powerful Hatsu to only be used on 12 humans ever (like, being able to force somebody in Zetus is pretty much transforming them into normal humans), every second he uses his special ability, Emperor Time, his lifespan shortens by 1 hour, so for a 5 minute fight at full power he looses 12.5 days of his life. So pretty much he does the exact same thing Gon did against Pitou but at a much smaller, controlled way. And if you think about it, Gon wasted a lot of Nen in that condition, he could probably defeat Pitou with half or even a 3rd of that power, and with that his life probably wouldn't be in danger. But yeah, one time in manga he used Emperor Time for 3 hours and pass out while he was in that state, meaning the emperor time was on the whole 6 hour nap as well, 9 hour of it shortened his lifespan with almost 4 years, he will definitely won't live long if he keeps using that power, probably would die shortly after he is finishing with dealing with the spiders. Unless some post-mortum-nen revives him like it happened with Hisoka, or Killua somehow gets notice of that sacrifice and uses Nanika to give back his lost years before he dies, or who knows, maybe Killua would just plainly wish to revive him? Not sure if it's possible, but until now there were no wishes Nanika can't perform, but if there is any limitations, probably she/he/it can't revive, since the cost for wishes is also in human lives, so.
Nah it actually makes sense. You have to understand that Killua and Gon both took the “childish” route to understanding and learning about nen. You see both of their potentials are likely higher than Kurapika (infact we could probably assume Kurapika is in his prime right now) - but Kurapika took his time to better think out and understand what he wanted to accomplish when learning about nen. He wasn’t doing it to increase his power for no purpose, he was doing it for his goals. It’s implied that when given a purpose, nen is way more effective in general. So coupled with Kurapikas intense drive to complete his goals, and his high level of intelligence to craft techniques and restrictions that work perfectly to accomplish that said goal - it makes sense why Kurapika became so much more powerful than them.
To be fair, Kurapika was showing his boss level skill from the hunter exam, he just lacked the physical ability to pull Killua levels of feats... so then he learned nen and played the system.
conditions were significantl more strict for him . and killua and gon spent a lo of time not training nen betweeb arcs whilst kurapika was 100% focused on getting strong .
Speaking of anime differences, my boy Leorio got robbed. Him being able to open the Second Zoldyck gate by himself, something even Gon or Kurapika couldn't do, was the only time his monstrous potential was showcased.
I agree
I really wanted him to become stronger
Ging shows that his Nen ability could be legitimately overpowered if he applied it in a combat scenario, I get that Leorio is more of a doctor type but he should really get some combat training
@@Subpar1O1 yes he's training will make him a better doctor which will improve his hatsu and ging showcased that
Man I gotta read the manga now. I’ve finished the anime but there’s so many differences between the manga and anime with all anime
nen is such a cool combat system, like togashi really is a genuine genius for coming up with it
I completely agree. Togashi is a genius for sure. Might be the most genius mangaka actually
Yeah it is my favorite but he basically broke down ki into there natural conclusion
I like it too but it does feel overly complicated at times. They’ll give explanations and breakdown what’s essentially just fortifying your natural abilities all the time, separating into groups which just feels cumbersome to me. But that’s my opinion.
@@thelettucebarrel7784 Idk I feel like if it was fewer categories things would become a lot more confusing and much more vague. Knowing that nen usually fits in a few categories makes it a lot easier to understand imo.
@@kobe9063 I can see that but I’m not necessarily talking about enhancers and conjurers and whatever, just how literally everything in it has a name even if it doesn’t need it’s own unique explanation, not to mention the names all sound pretty similar.
gon vs killua is obvious.
Proceeds to explain it for 37 minutes and 4 seconds
“Quantum physics is simple” *ten hours later*
you mean Gone and Killua
They had a training arc to open the smallest zoldyck door, Killua opened the biggest one effortlessly?
Good call out lol
And they did it all together, Killua did it alone
Yea the trio opened a 2 ton door, Killua alone opened the 16 ton door
I mean he has to open it by himself…how else would he get home
That’s the 2011
1999 and the manga, Gon and Kurapika can open the first door on their own and Leorio can open the second
Decent argument but don’t let this take away from that facts that bungee gum has the properties of rubber and gum
Would have been disappointed if I didn't see a hisoka bungee gum reference.
Somebody's gotta say it
Exactly
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Before even watching. Gon loses to killua consistently until he gets his rage mode in the ant ark
Thats what I was thinking too
Oversimplified and an awful take altogether
@@Mugen_YTube just the true
@@Andre-iy2ob Gon violates that bum in Greed island arc.
@@JinxisHere758 nah
Just imagine an adult gon that has a nen vow to only use rock with his right hand or something like that. A restriction like would be crazy
but that would never work because the condition is not strict enough adult gon was so powerful because the vow was so crippling
@@odearodear6390he wasn’t strong because the vow was restrictive. The deal he made was his life for all the power he would ever possess, meaning adult gon was just something he would’ve eventually achieved
@JustTryinaDuck Yes but it would've been achieved through like decades of training like Netero did, because the vow was so restrictive that he was literally giving up his life that's why he was able to gain so much power that he didn't have at that moment
@@JustTryinaDuck yea what adult gon is how strong gon would be if he grown at the same rate as he have based on his current strength every adult gon wouldn’t be the same because as you grow stronger you surpass yourself than you were previously
Honestly i think Gon already unconsciously set a condition that makes it so he must say the whole janken thing and stand in place, which is why it amplifies so much. Not confirmed but we do know conditions could be set without the user realizing
I feel like Killua not knowing nen despite having an 8 year training arc with his family, which has some impressive nen users is an extreme oversight.
@@teagor9505 and they weirdest thing is Kalluto being younger than killua, but already knowing nen, and even having a more developed hatsu
@@teagor9505 I think Killuas dad is smart enough to have left out nen training until after Killua became physically indomitable. Once he was sure of Killuas physical capabilities, I’m sure the nen training would’ve come right after, but Killua ran away from home. Killua was in the middle of his development, got cocky, ran away, and returned to let them know he’d figure things out on his own. His Dad trusted him to do so- so much so that he maniacally laughs about how Killua is likely to return in search of more power.
Now that Killua has a hatsu ability in development, he’ll likely seek out techniques with varying levels of utility like Zenos dragon dive, or Silvas plasma blast attack. With his goal being to protect Alluka, there’s literally 0 chance that he’s not constantly trying to figure out ways to get stronger, strong enough to defeat his father or Illumi with ease. I can picture him going to Zeno for guidance, and potentially Silva, although I’m pretty sure Killua doesn’t trust the core of his family anymore. Either way I think it’s not far fetched that they left nen training out of Killuas regimen as he was learning assassin trade techniques and developing physically. A more physically abled and capable assassin version of Killua learning nen would be demonically dangerous, his hatsu might have taken a far more sinister form too.
@@cubbwatch Sounds plausible, fit in Kalluto, who didn't seem to be physically incapable either, but had nen experience in the equation.
The only way I can think of in the 5 seconds, is because they were dead set on making Killua the heir of the family, so his training was slower, longer and more focussed.
@@teagor9505 It might be. I know that this is partially cope but to me it feels like they didn't teach him because of his potential, having him be not to strong might have been a way to buy time for him to become more divided to the family
@@teagor9505 killito didn't know nen either so I'm not surprised.
I agree it's obvious, but massively disagree with the conclusion. Post-needle Killua, if serious, would kill Chimera Ant kid Gon before he even had time to think about using rock. Gon is a primary enhancer, sure, but Killua can also use enhancement (it's one of his secondary attributes), and is actually MUCH stronger physically. He is also absurdly faster, more skilled, smarter and a no bullshit trained assassin who goes straight for the kill and knows all of Gon's tricks. I can accept that Gon's aura output is higher, but except for jan-ken, it's not by much. And Gon's finisher is balanced by taking time to charge, something Killua would never give him.
About the end of the serie, knowing the themes and the author, I doubt Gon will be anywhere near the peak of the verse. It's just not his style. Much more likely that he retires and goes have a simple life back home.
While Killua is indeed faster and more experienced in combat, Gon's transformation gave him a raw power that could potentially overwhelm Killua in a head-to-head confrontation. Gon's Rock attack, even though it requires charging, packs an incredible amount of destructive force that could pose a serious threat to Killua, especially if it connects.
@@gamerx392 so Gon is just completely outclassed by Godspeed, and I’d even argue that Gon is outclassed by pre-Godspeed Killua. Gon is just never going to get off the hit (especially the Rock one. Because Killua is faster than him (not by much), has ranged options, and Gon needs a LOT of time to charge it up. It’s just not happening.
If you want to add In transformation Gon into the mix then I’d say Killua gets completely stomped, but then Killua can sacrifice all his potential as well and then it’s basically just an argument between child Gon and child Killua with Godspeed.
@@gamerx392 It would never connect tho Killuas Godspeed is designed to dodge attacks before they are thrown and Killua being a lot faster means he can blitz Gon everytime he tries to charge JanJenKen and stop the activation
@@_Sloppyham Gon has repeatedly demonstrated exceptional adaptability and determination in challenging situations. When faced with formidable opponents, Gon finds ways to adjust his tactics and capitalize on openings.
@@lsdoncrackwubbalubbadubdub1387 It's true that Godspeed grants Killua incredible speed and reflexes, enabling him to dodge attacks with precision. This makes it challenging for opponents like Gon to land hits directly. However, Gon's Rock attack, while requiring charging time, has shown impressive destructive power and range. Even if Killua can dodge individual attacks, Gon's strategic use of Rock can create area-of-effect damage that proves difficult to evade entirely.
Here's The timestamps to every arc of powerscaling in this video:
Time Stamps:
00:59 Gon vs Killua (Hunter Exams Arc)
5:50 Gon vs Killua (Heavens Arena Arc)
10:12 Gon vs Killua (Phantom Troupe Arc)
11:00 Gon vs Killua (Greed Island Arc)
15:05 Gon vs Killua (Chimera Ant Arc)
20:30 Adult Gon vs Full Potential Gon Is Obvious
22:24 Angry Kid Gon vs Full Power Killua (Chimera Ant Arc)
25:38 Gon vs Killua (Dark Continent/Post Timeskip)
@@LeelosAdventure You can put the time stamps on the description starting with 0:00 and it will automatically set the sections directly on the video.
This will auto add cuts to the video progress, creates a new window with all timestamps and when moused over, it tells you what section it is.
Hope that helped and have a nice day.
Didn’t killua one shot gon when he was raging against pitu when he sat kites arm get cut off? 👀 gon was outputting a crazy amount of aura because he was pissed an killua took him down with one chop…I think killua beats gon at the end of the Ant Arch for sure, he has the speed and the destructive power to hurt/kill gon!
Edit: Sorry double checked, wasn’t a chop, it was a two handed hit across the head…but still he knocked his ass out while gon had insane aura around him.
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this is a good point. heres my explanation to it in 3 points:
1) In the scene you are mentioning, gon is using ren. That just increases your attack power. Ken is the nen technique that increases defense.
2) Also its implied killua hits him in the back of the head with ko. Ko is not practical in normal battle because you leave the rest of your body defenseless. this works best on off-guard opponents and backfires in normal fights (feitan vs chimera ant zazan is a good example)
3) And finally, this gon was wayyyyy weaker than invasion gon. After this scene, gon and killua have an entire training arc with bisky, increase their nen endurance 3x and he gains a ton more battle experience, then gets a massive anger amp on top of that. Basically, in my video i compare end of chimera ant gon to end of chimera ant killua. thats a completely different gon than the one who gets knocked out off guard by killua. He's several times stronger end of chimera ant arc than he was start of chimera ant arc.
He off guarded him with a nen punch
@@LeelosAdventure I see your points. It’s just that the way you explained it in the videos implies that just having a crazy more amount of aura then your opponent that they wouldn’t even be able to damage you. And even tho gon was “off guard” he still was spiking in aura which was covering his entire body and killua was still able to knock him out while still holding back of course because he wasn’t trying to kill him, just knock him unconscious.
@@gtxyurni also as far as them getting stronger, killua also gets insanely stronger. So much so that he didn’t need a nen condition to close the gap between him and a royal guard like how gon did. Without a nen condition killua should win low difficulty, and even with the nen condition killua can definitely out speed gon and do enough destructive power to damage adult gon.
The fact that Killua has spent his whole life Training, and Gon was able to get close to him in about a couple of days. (Almost landing a hit on Netero, while Killia gave up) Gon’s potential trumps Killua’s skill, intelligence, and training. But I think a battle between them would almost be even because of Killua’s experience/intelligence/training. But I think Gon would have the slight edge.
One thing I’d like to mention about Killua though is that you could technically say Killuas training in his upbringing was more or less just how he was raised, I don’t think he was trained too seriously. Baring in mind he was assassinating non users at this point (regular humans), he was learning to do something that is pretty average in the hunter x Hunter verse. I think Gons training as a kid was actually nearly as harsh because he was pretty much raised in the wild his whole childhood, that’s how he actually got his animal instincts
Gon never came close to Killua lol.
Only in Nen out and capacity did he come close but they both trained the same time for that
They have equal talent this argument would work if killua was actually taught nen before hand
Killua is obviously stronger from the beginning of the series to the end imo. The only time it’s close is right before Killua gets godspeed.
That being said, Gon is more useful in combat. It’s stated that he’s more focused and at times more ruthless than even Killua, meaning he can take out stronger opponents.
Sometimes strength isn’t the end all be all
Straight wrong 😂
Kite and brisky said Gon have a slow start when it come to actually combat from fighting.Killua have more easier he been train as kid in combat fighting
Gon PRE transformation is stronger. By far. Pitou was scared of him.
@@ImTheMan0fSteel Pitou was scared of what he was going to do with Komugi
Narrator even says that Gon, Killua and Knuckle together would be easy for Pitou
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Papeada termonuclear 😭
@@cjcj4861 fym reaching dbz levels of powers 💀 🙏
@@cjcj4861 I havent seen someone destroying whole planet like its nothing in hxh
Debates aside, I find the topic of "how Gon's abilities could change" extremely interesting. I agree with you completely that Gon's experiences could change his category, possibly even to specialist, but even if that doesn't happen, imagine how much he could improve the functionality of his existing ability. Most of the most powerful and skilled nen-users typically seem to combine multiple categories into one ability, whereas Gon simply chooses either his inate category, or one of his adjacent ones.
Imagine how potent an enhancer could be if they always incorporated the adjacent categories. Especially with the recent emphasis on emission having teleportation abilities. For example, what if Gon's ability was still a punch, but just before it charged fully, the aura briefly adapted the properties of light, like a DBZ Solar Flare, and then he could teleport himself one time before throwing the punch. "Gon, you are light."
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Ging D Freecs had achieved them all.
One of the best thing about Togashi is his love for details, believe me when I say, the details ( complexity) of the nen system is one of the main reasons we love it so much
Loved your thoughts on things. Completely agree with your predicted direction of Gon and Killua's story.
Seriously this channel is so underrated
Thank you I appreciate that a lot
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Okay but during greed Island, saying “Gon one shots Kilua with rock” but we saw with Genthru, that attack isn’t going to hit someone who’s fast. He had to basically trap Genthru ahead of time to hit him with it?
Cap, that was in the Greed island Arc. Gon Had no problem using Rock on moving targets in the latter half of the Chimera Ant Arc.
@@JinxisHere758ants that would never touch killua in godspeed
@@KMExceeder Godspeed doesn't last long and Gon's stamina is higher because of having more aura output.
@@carlososler7024he lasts long enough to beat someone like Gon and he doesn't even need it if we're being honest. His lightning was strong enough to stun the likes of Youpi who the hell is Gon😆
@@EmmanuelGbiaye Adult Gon will one shot Youpi lmao, the Hell are you talking about ?
The thing with killua attack is that even with aura being bigger in the opponent side the electrocuted effect will mess with everything and wil do absurd damage
I agree with you on Invasion Gon vs invasion Killwa , the only thing that I can think of about Gon is his extremely fast adaptability during the battle, in all of Gon's fights he always thinks and adapts to compensate his lack of experience
Looking at Aura like weight classes is actually a really inspired comparison. It shifts the battle in one person’s favor, but enough skill can technically pull out a victory
Bro is scaling the series so well he's scaling possibilities we haven't even seen.
The fanfiction at the end was crazy. Gon and Killua are more likely to develop hax than straight up planetary stuff
I thought the video was really good untill the end, kind of turned me off ngl. I dont want the series to ever turn even close to what the described, it feels more like Yu yu hakusho anyway which fits that series much more.
I usually don't like these kinds of videos, but this is some top tier analysis. Good shit man
20K IN LESS THAN A DAY AHHHHHH YOURE COOKING
Thanks bro I appreciate that a lot man
True Adult Gon is that match for Post-Rose Meruem I didn't expect to know about b4 Togashi took us to Dark Continent
That would been a great interesting match up post meruem and adult Gon. Pitou know the potential of Gon was afraid what happen if these ever clash go thing pitou took Gon revenge anger.
And considering both Gon and Killua are similar in talent and power overall, those two at their peak would be even stronger than Netero and Meruem if they keep up their training
@@wingzero7678 age 16 I will give Gon and killua too reach their peak.
@laquanlucas6953 I think Meruem wins tho cause Pitou said he matched the King but she never saw him after the rose so she didn't know he gained even more power
@@TheWarden04and even that claim is false lol. She said his fangs may reach the king, not that his output or capabilities are the level of the Kings. Anything that could kill the king (even someone that the King could mid-dif like Netero) is a “threat” in the Royal Guard’s eyes.
A great timing for the video just when togashi post that he's working on new chapters.
Maybe we can see gon again after so long
i like that he spoke loud and clear and used pictures
You judt earned a sub! It is very rare for people to have the same conclusion as me as to where the story goes next. Others just accepted gon n killuas story ended after Chinera arc. I judy hope togashi makes it
I think they would both seek Vengeance against themselves if either of them ever killed the other lol
The idea of Gon having new nen skills based off of games like Rock Paper Scissors would be so cool
This is why HxH is more interesting than most series. You can't just say "person X is stronger than Y because he has a bigger power level!" It honestly depends on a bunch of factors: why are they fighting? Where are they fighting? In which saga is this happening? What's at stake? Normaly 80% of the time I would bet on Killua of course but if Gon for some insane reason was willing to do the Pitou thing then of course it's Gon
incredible speculation on the direction the story would have gone, and i truly think you hit the nail on the head throughout the entire video
Killua, always at any point except when Gon yolod the fight against Pitou. In strenght, speed, reflexes, inteligence and battle experience Killua is always ahead. Only Willpower is where Go takes the cake by a landslide.
thanks for not being an AI voice channel
good video
if these gon and killua ever even show up again in the manga ill be hyped
honestly same
@@admiralaokiji7889 imagine they come back as late teens
@@adzo147 they'd be like near netero level even just as teens. atleast killua will be, idk if gon's gonna have to start from scratch since his nen is gone, if he even gets his nen back.
I think Killua beats Gon at the end of chimera ant arc. The key is not via Godspeed rush attack but the opposite, Godspeed dodge mode. We know the Gon has a higher capacity than Killua, however I think that Gon using Rock consume a larger percent of Gon's aura capacity compared to Killua using Godspeed to dodge. We know Killua can activate Godspeed in bursts, so in a drawn out fight if Killua focuses on dodging and using Godspeed bursts as a panic button specially against Rock, the battle would eventually reach a point where Gon's aura falls low enough where Killua's Godspeed Rush can then seal the deal.
Gon has higher output not capacity.
@@AndrewsMobs he has both over Killua
@@banan9377 Nope, Killua literally outlasted Gon in terms of Ren, only by a slight amount though
@@AndrewsMobs what's the source?
@@banan9377 Chimera ant arc when they were training with Bisky
Physical strength = Gon
Speed = Killua
IQ= Killua
Battle IQ = Gon
Agility = Killua
Experience = Killua
Durability = Killua
( I’m kinda .. conflicted about the durability because Gon was literally fighting someone and was still standing after both his arms got blown off but Killua was tortured )
i disagree, without nen, killua should have the best physical strength of the duo
of course, an enhancer would be the best in a brute force way
I think that's endurance on gons part 😊
Gon has negative battle IQ.
@@AsTheWorldSpinsAgain how so?
The world is scary lately but wholesome friendships in medium are keeping it bearable
YES, LET'S GOOO IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO. LET'S GO!!!
Ay it’s da goat Lenny 🔥💪🏾
@@LeelosAdventureBRO HXH IS RETURNING
@@lennyduran4055 ain’t no way…
Kilua has always been ridiculously powerful and has only gotten stronger and stronger, was definitely one of the best characters in this show
i also think its relevant to bring up whether or not they are in character. i think in character, the fight is in gons favor even if we assume his nen is less than triple killuas. but if its just stat block vs stat block id say its like a 6 or 7 out of 10 in favor of killua
This was a great video, I agreed with pretty much everything but idk if using meruem for the relationship between total aura and if certain attacks can hurt an opponent was right, remember even down to fodder chimera ants has exoskeletons that gives them superhuman durability, Rammot having so much that before unlocking nen he survived nen attacks from gon and killua, so meruem being the ant king can also just have INSANE levels of natural durability besides having greater Aura, I think when it comes to human opponents killua in God speed is very dangerous even to those with a fair deal high nen capacity, which is why I would put him comfortably above gon with Godspeed outside of Adult Gon
Adult gon is the only gon that wins, killua clears any version of kid gon in any arc
Watch the video
@@sptflcrw8583 I did and his math completely falls on it’s face if you analyze it further.
@@t3qnix110 explain
@@Off_tomuch Him saying Gon’s Ken output is that high (7-14k aura) would mean, at the high end, that his output with Ken is more than half the amount of aura he actually has, which would burn his aura reserves instantly as we know he has around 21,500 maybe a little more during the Palace Invasion, given he went bankrupt against Knuckle and that maximum doesn’t change regardless of how mad Gon gets. Gon regularly burns 600 aura per minute in combat with an output of 1,800 Ken. Although some has changed since fighting Knuckle to the Palance Invasion, following that ratio and using only what we know, should be able to give us a general estimate. With an output of 7,000 Ken, that be more than triple the amount of aura per minute he typically burns, burning likely as much if not more aura than his 2,000 aura activation cost for Rock EVERY. SINGLE. MINUTE. That’d be ridiculous; he’d run out of aura in every fight according to his scale, and that’s on the low end. This does not include the fact that following through with Rock, Gon spends another 4,000 aura, twice his activation amount (6,000 aura is the total cost of 1 Jajanken move, possibly far higher depending on how much aura he sacrifices and time, especially so if we increase his output across the board). In short, Gon would literally run out of aura, in less time than he did against Knuckle.
Needless to say, the basis of comparing Gon’s Rock to his Ken output is asinine. Gon’s output with Rock is explained by Knuckle as something that is a unique effect to Jajanken based on long build-up and sacrificing defenses. So his output with Ken is going to be different than his output with Rock, especially since Rock is functionally similar to Ko, which as we know is far stronger than base Ken without Ryu. This is further demonstrated in Gon vs. Hollow and Bat. In this fight, his Ken was at an even state (aura equally spread throughout his body); Meleorone states that Gon would not have been able to injure even the Owl ant at that state. Yet his Rock was able to send the Ant to a different country and put the fear of god in Morel; this shows his Rock is far, far stronger than his normal Ken, and it’s not even remotely comparable. Meleorone’s entire opinion on Gon changes from seeing his Rock, not his total Aura or Ken output, which, if it were enough to one-shot Morel, would be a crazy thing NOT to be impressed by. Hell, even saying Gon’s Ken output is so high that it scales to the Rock that could one-shot Morel, yet can’t one-shot a Chimera Ant Soldier like Hollow, outright refutes his comparison.
The potential that Gon had was other worldly and he just threw it all away
man...
The fact this man has only 4.73k subs baffles me, the quality of this content is just amazing. A lot of thought and research has clearly gone into this. Keep it up mate!! Would love to see you with a huge fan base in the future. (+1 Sub
Thank you brother i appreciate that a lot
Facts bro this video is too Mitch keep it up man.
It’s cause he pronounces the X 😉
I usually cringe at power scaling videos, but this was actually really well put together
This video has me thinking that power scaling is an art and we just haven't seen consistent good power scaling discussion yet. When it comes to power scaling I know I mostly just see people shit talking each other's opinions (for better or worse)
@@Dudex11a you might be right. I usually check out mentally when people start throwing around 'light speed' and 'faster than light speed' for feats, because at that point it becomes utterly meaningless to me
@@axelminus Now that I'm thinking about it, discussion around power scaling can really only be meaningful depending on how well crafted a power system is and how much significance and consistency it is given narratively. Like, it's much harder to have discussion around a Marvel or DC property because writers are always changing and it seems just not as much thought and care are given to the power systems in those universes as a whole. Since not as much care is put into consistency, it's hard to make any meaningful deductions. Thank you for the response! I haven't thought about this as deeply before
@@Dudex11a i think you are exactly right. There are also scenes that are purely meant to have an awesome moment, like a character reacting last second to something they didn‘t see coming. I love these moments and wouldn‘t want to miss them, but building an entire powerscaling video off of that seems like a reach
Great video/analysis.
Thank you bro I appreciate that a lot
Great video. My only gripe was the Ginyu Force head cannon bit at the end. All in all though, I enjoyed it. Thank you :+)
killua wins the whole time until gon becomes an adult obv
i dont agree
I agree
@@dx8321delusional
is so obvious he made a 37 min video to convince ppl otherwise 😂
@@silversauceran wdym?
I like how HXH has a "Rock Paper Scissors" style power system and that Gon has RPS as a motif of his abilities.
You’re so underrated, keep it up man ❤
One of the best ones yet 🔥🔥
Thanks bro I appreciate that
@@LeelosAdventureI still got 20 minutes to go! Was watching before training tn. Gonna try to finish up. Man I really need to read the manga
Goated as always
Love your content bro
Thank you bro I appreciate that a lot
I came here for the video concept but stuck around for your energy. dope shit man keep it up :)
Thanks bro I appreciate that
For you *reasonable* Killua believers.
Killua has Godspeed. Something Gon doesn't even know about. His, we're gonna say first form, of Godspeed, lightning speed, was complimented by two of the royal guards and tsubone the butler. When he fights youpi, his second form of Godspeed, whirlwind, is introduced. The *literal* narrator, says that this form surpasses even the *broadest* limits of the human body, due to it taking control of Killua's body, eliminating the slow reaction time of the nerve system and reacting solely based on instinct.
During his fight with youpi people like to point out that Killua didn't injure him. But then again, all he was trying to do was blow off some steam because of his and Gon's argument. Not really trying to kill him. Then there's also Razor in the GI arc, he compliments hisoka and Gon, and when he gets to Killua he expands more on Killua making up for what he lacks in experience, by having that much raw talent. Killua is also very strong, with or without nen, he was able to the 5 door that weighs 64 tons or 128,000 pounds, and that is without nen, as we don't see any white aura around him. His durability is also amazing, having been tortured by his family in the form of whipping, electrocuting, and poison. Killua has been killing since the age of around 6.
And if after all that you still aren't convinced, that's okay, because he will eventually be the strongest no matter what. Because, we know Zigg Zoldyck right, someone who went to the dark content with netero. It's said that netero was lucky to survive Maha, Zigg Zoldyck is stronger than Maha. And we know Killua has the most potential out of the whole Zoldyck bloodline. So if Killua is going to become stronger than Zigg, someone who survived the dark continent and was probably the one to bring those demonic dogs to be watch dogs. Would Gon be able to beat Killua then?
Even now Killua can beat Gon, especially since Gon's aura nodes are closed in the recent timeline. But Killua almost always seems to be about one step in front of Gon. Except for the heavens arena arc, since Gon who's an enhancer, could more effectively use his nen, rather Killua who's a transmuter, didn't really have anything yet for his nen until GI.
I won't glaze Killua as this character who can never be beat, as he's had his fair share of troubles along with Gon. As for Gon's ability to adapt to situations quickly that everyone keeps bringing up, Killua can too, maybe not as quickly or something as Gon, but he still can. As we see how he quickly finds a solution to tsubone following him and Alluka as they try to escape. He also has very good logical skills. When fighting one of the minions of Genthuru (forgot how to spell his name lowkey), we see that uses his brain to overpower the pink haired dude.
Killua is, and will be stronger than Gon. Idc about Gon's nen capacity, cuz wasn't Killua able to knock him out as he was trying to prove himself? I'm being fair right now, i think that both Gon and Killua are op, but if it came down to it, Killua would most likely win.
But there is another point I'd like to point out. When Gon does fully charge his Jajanken for the final blow and Killua runs to him, Killua does seem to cover himself because of how strong it it, proving that Gon is definitely strong. But Killua doesn't seen to be necessarily hurt by the immense explosion he was narrowly caught in.
I'll restate this. Killua is stronger and will be stronger than Gon. Fight me on it bro and I'll rewatch the whole anime to gathr more facts because my memory is lowkey slipping. Okay, ily both Killua and Gon, bye ♥️
Just say ur a killua glazer and move on kid. Gon claps
@@ClearlyVague1 why don't u give me some evidence, I very much know Killua doesn't beat a lot of other people, especially as he stands now 🙄
There is no one called "Maha" in the manga, Zigg is likely the one who fought Netero and Zigg clearly looks like Zeno's grandfather.
@@AndrewsMobs he appears in the manga and we get his name in the data book, I'm pretty sure. Also there is no proof that Zigg is Zeno's grandfather
@@Ririkumi I agree with you that Killua is stronger in every form except Adult Gon but I disagree that he’ll always be stronger than Gon. They have the same potential and I could easily see Gon being stronger by the end of the series (if it ever gets there) I see it pretty similarly to how Yusuke and Hieis power gap ends up being at the end of the series. Of course I could be wrong but I’m always going to favor the main character having the slight edge when both are fully realized.
Killua saying he'd loose or what have you is kinda bs as a measuring pont because he was overly cautious and scared due to the needle in head.
In summary, gon is a monster x)
That’s true facts my friend
Love these vs vids, would love to see one with Jujutsu Kaisen, or Naruto with this depth
You are downplaying the difference between Netero and Meruem, and it's not even funny.
Let's break this down by establishing two things first:
Meruem has a larger Aura pool than Netero. The exact amount isn't important right now.
Netero was confident he could beat Meruem in a game of endurance, which is why he wanted to wear down Meruem and then use Zero hand.
But if he was using Aura to attack, he should have ran out of stamina first, right? Well, yes, but actually no.
See, the 100-type Guanyin Boddhisatva is performed with Conjuration and Manipulation. The benefit to conjured objects in this is you can smack someone around with physical force, without actually putting aura into strikes, and still force your enemy to use Aura to defend themselves or get hurt.
This is what was happening. His goal was to exhaust Meruem's aura supply by getting him to spend energy on defense while he exerted no energy, so he could put every drop of it into a single attack that would overwhelm and kill the weakened Meruem (its not like he wanted to use the rose). I've talked to several people about this, and I haven't been able to find another interpretation of Netero's strategy that makes sense.
And yet, even when Netero put every drop of his entire Aura reserves into a single attack, Meruem was able to put out a strong enough Ken to protect himself from everything but superficial injuries, and that's not counting the fact that Netero had to prep for days to unlock Zero hand, indicating that conditions multiply its power significantly.
This would be like Gon charging up a full power Rock with every drop of aura he has (which never happens, by the way), applying conditions to it to make it several times more powerful, and hitting an enemy that only gets bruised from the hit. Oh, and this being after he got smacked by thousands of purely physical attacks to wear down their aura.
That's INSANE, and there's absolutely no way the difference between Netero and Meruem is only three to eight times. If I had to take a guess, it would be a hundred times, but it's hard to say for sure.
Well I just mean 3-8 times difference in total aura.
Because morel has 10x less aura than youpi
And the gap between Netero and meruem was implied to be smaller than the gap between morel and youpi
@@LeelosAdventure
Can you tell me where this was implied then?
@@thermophile1695 from neteros hatsu producing enough force to sending meruem flying. None of morels attacks were shown strong enough to send royal guards flying
Also zero hand damaged meruem. Meaning zero hand surpassed meruems nen defense at least a little
For example:
Youpi had 700k total aura.
Let’s say he had same nen output percent as gon of 10% nen output. Then his defense would be 70,000 aura. Unless you can do 70,000 aura of damage you can’t even hurt him
With meruem. He likely had 3x youpis aura(strong enough to kill all 3 royal guard by himself) meruems total aura would be 2.1 million aura
Meruem nen output 10% = about 200k aura
Netero total nen = about 500k aura. Lower than a royal guard
If he used half his power up, he’d be at 250k by the time he fired zero hand
Zero hand shoots all his remaining aura at once = about 250k aura attack
And it hurt meruem a little so it all adds up.
Basically in simple terms it’s like this
Netero total Aura = around 500k
Meruem total aura = around 2.1 million
So it’s a little less than 5x more aura
@@LeelosAdventure
Sending Meruem flying is because of the actual physics involved. It doesn't matter how strong you are, if you get hit by a strong enough force, you'll go flying unless you can fly, which Meruem couldn't at that point.
I mean, Killia hurt Pouf pretty bad.
@@thermophile1695 well killua was only fighting a super small fragment of poufs power. Pouf gave 6/7 of his power to the king.
Then he split himself into many small clones, each clone just a fraction of his remaining 1/7 power.
then one of those little weak clones got destroyed by killua. it might've had less nen than killua tbh
Amazing video. Great level of detail and little pieces of lore that I never picked up from the series before. Please make some more HxH content! I would love to see a ‘Ranking the Phantom Troupe’ video from you using full manga knowledge up to date.
Killua has always been stronger until the rage moment in the ant arc.
Cap, Killua had already developed godspeed by then. While only for a limited time, he was able to go toe to toe with Youpi. Gon needed to give up everything to beat Pitou, unfortunately.
@@FatKratos69 but gon is really resistant in rage mode
I think gon rage mode wins killua after God speed
You all have to remember if killua doesn't knock Gon out fast he is going to have to charge up again
@@hipopotamodata9932 gon rage mode destroyas kilua, hes just saying that base kilua is stronger I believe
@@damp1x488 oh that is fair
What did I just watch lmao, so early on the monologue changed from killua v gon to some other stuff but I just kept listening like it's asmr
There is a lot of "ifs" in this video. For example, no, Adult Gon would never one shot this version (20:40), it wasn't just two decades of aura, it was two decades of doing nothing else thain training 24/7. And jankenguu is a technique that increases the amount of aura output as it get's developed, doesn't necessarily mean that Gon's aura skyrocket doing just squats and pushups, bc that's the only thing he did in the month he couldn't use Nen, the big difference in the previous "fight" they had, was the Biscuit training. More than that, Meleoron said that even if both Killua and Gon were really strong, the one who had a captain's potencial was killua, and he couldn't have sensed it if not by the Nen aura
nowhere is it ever stated that it was "two decades of doing nothing than training". he gave up his life he didnt say "oh IF I DECIDED TO TRAIN FROM THIS POINT TIL THE REST OF MY LIFE can i have it now :D?" that would just not make sense
man i wonder if this anime ever gets finished ... after one piece this will be the last one us 90's kids will treasure :D
I think there’s a lil bit of gon glaze focusing on his Achievements when they train. The only strength training gon got was with the body guard and didn’t get any other strength training so physically killua the whole series is stronger than gon but with Ben he closes that gap with capacity but killua still has a very impressive amount of nen capacity and output and has better control than gon as seen with him using gyo in heavens arena and also training with buiscuit. Killua also has an insane amount of battle iq as seen with him getting jumped by multiple ants and also him coming up with Godspeed near death. I do think apart from adult gon there’s no point in the series gon can win. Killuas physical stats are just way above gons and he has insane experience techniques and almost equal amounts of battle iq and versatility with his hatsu. And u mention angry gon but I feel like if we include that we have to mention bloodlusted killua that fights as effectively to kill and has insane pain endurance
At no point after Greed Island was Killua stronger than Gon.
@@sptflcrw8583 Killua literally knocked out a enraged aura boosted Gon for a considerable time during the Chimera arc, they are not comparable at all.
@@AndrewsMobs he punched him in the back of the head using Ko while Gon was completely off guard. No shit he knocked him out
@@sptflcrw8583 Gon clearly had his guard up and his aura was even spiking
@@AndrewsMobs killua punched him in the back of the head, rewatch the scene.
the beat everyone is looking for is "empathy" goated vid rare Gon respect
Bro wrote a whole ass fanfic 💀
I'm sure you've gotten tons of comments about it already but there's a 2nd i in Killua in your title x)
Solid video! 👍
@@maloryna oh wow thanks for letting me know. I legit never noticed that until right now lol you have really good observation skills
@@maloryna I just fixed it now, thanks again I appreciate it
@@LeelosAdventure I gotchu :D Just saw it was uploaded awhile ago and assumed it was intentional LOL!
W vid.
Edit: Can you do prime netero vs meruem
Yep I can. I might live stream it next week. And thank you for watching and commenting
Its Meruem. By FAR.
That already happened
Adult gon we saw was a clear slate of his adult version. Basically max level character but default allocations and no equips nor emblems setup
Title: GOn VS KIlLua IS ObVIouS
Video Time: 37 Minutes
WHAT DU HEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLL
“Gon on the other hand, is just a genuine freak of nature.” 🤣🤣
The fact that Leorio says he’s surrounded by monsters during the exam and you saying this about Gon is hilarious 😂🤣
Nah, never let bro cook again. The bias thinking Gon would win
Nah ima keep cookin
He’s right through, in the Manga Pitou says that angry kid Gon prior to transforming would kill her in a fight.
@@groudonfanatic9146 Doubt it.
Nah bro he was not biased at all. He was actually very fair in his critique. He said several times Killua wins in most instances. Gon had like one instance of potentially winning / being equal and that's post Greed Island / Chimera ant arc which is actually quite fair and valid tbh.
You burned the food.
That genuine message in the beginning was really nice. Thanks bro, you keep it up the work too.
Killua, Killua, Killua, Killua, Gon, Killua.
@someguy4405 adult gon solos
@@DrnoobzHermida yes that's the gon
@@someguy4405 okay 👍
Completely agree!
@@pipercharms7374 what bro adult gon solos
Had to check out at the Dark continent, but dope video brody
Ngl this is a fire video, but ima have to disagree a little killua would cook gon in every single arc of the show only real debatable 1 is greed island but I'll take Killua on that one. And obviously I agree adult gon stomps killua. But other than that I have Killua destroying gon in every aspect I can debate anyone who wants just reply if u want to debate I guess 😊
I think Killua has the edge in pretty much every arc, even when they become relative in power and ability the fact remains that Gon is about as sharp as a sack of wet mice, he may be a nen prodigy, but he does not share his fathers overall genius and Killua can beat him with strategy.
Killua anytime of the day and twice on sunday. Gon have no feat that scale higher than killua beside the adult gon which is really a cheat. The author even brush aside killua after the chimera arc with the bs of travelling around the world with aluka coz killua have left gon way behind with killuas power boost during chimera arc.
Ive always interpreted rock as its own nen limitation because he has to charge it and limit it to a rock paper scissors theme, hence it being so strong
Some of the reasoning is weak. Rock is so strong because of how limiting it is to use. Imagine an mma fighter doing that. It’s impractical, which is why its so strong. It allows gon to punch as if he was in a higher weight class, for this reason using rock to scale gon as if gon is on the level of that attack is a silly thing to do.
If the statement that rock makes gon dozens of times stronger is true, it means gon is able to put in what? 100 nen into most of his attacks at the most?
Netero needs to do a whole prayer, and then remember one out of a hundred hand signs to make his construct do one out of hundred hyper specific attacks. It is super inconvenient, this thing being unable to cause a more substantial amount of damage implies surely that there is more than a 3x difference. Because by this logic gon could never be dozens of times stronger with rock
These are interesting points, and they’re fun to debate so I’m down. So here’s some things to consider:
1) the gon you are referring to is the gon start of chimera ant arc. He’s massively weaker than angry invasion Gon
2) Knuckle states that Gons max aura output with Ken is 1800 aura. This is after gon completes his second round of training with Bisky so it’s very possible his nen output increased massively from the time you mentioned to the time of gon vs knuckle
3) my understanding of the scene you mentioned goes like this: Gons first punch on the chimera ant was around 100 nen. It was his first punch of the fight and kite states gon takes a bit to warm up. His first punch of 100 aura was not his full power. Proven by him charging scissors right after. Then his scissors was likely around 2000 aura.
@@LeelosAdventure the logic i am using is that aura expenditure wont get equal results. Therefore determining the gap between people wont work that way.
So say to do the pokey attack you do the entire hokey pokey, song and dance in the exact way a certain recording of it shows, failing to do this ends in demise, you cannot be even one frame off. But at the end you can use a super powered strike.
If netero were to do this it would result in probably one shotting meruem regardless of what version of the character you use. That is to say, these attacks don’t allow you to use a higher percentage of your nen, they multiply the effectiveness of the amount of nen you put into them.
A regular 2000 nen kick vs a 2000 nen rock aren’t the same. So a char with 50,000 nen could fail to scratch a character, but someone with 10,000 nen could one shot them. In the same way a 200lb man may fail to fell a chimp, but a 120lb teen thrown from a plane landing on the chimp would succeed.
So, for my point against your scaling at points is that see janken and state it as if it’s actually gons level of power. When janken can only be used to scale other instances of janken and have little relevance to how strong gon is. A 2000 nen punch can do nothing, but a 2000 nen janken can one shot,
Mane i seriously hope Gon doesnt wind up getting everything back, itd ruin the severity of his sacrifice, when i think of Gon giving up everything i take into account literally everything, including his potential and nen abilities, whose to say that he’ll be able to use the same nen abilities or even be the same nen type since hes, running around with post-mortem nen it seems, hell if he can even use nen or learn it the same way as other hunters, he never specified what he was giving up (something i never considered) then Alluka complicates things more cuz it is possible she gave Gon more power or something else entirely, this is why i love HxH it’s written so theres this constant spiral of “how” the story can go in so many ways.
But Gon having to possibly learn a new way to use nen would be highly intriguing, it could make Killua stronger in turn Gon would obviously show him (Ging would actually have to support his kid) and it could open a whole new power system entirely. I pray Togashi gets better and doesn’t get scared to kill off his characters or change their story trajectory, its what makes him different from the other manga writers
Killua was always 1 step ahead of Gon
I say it’s Kill by a long shot honestly.
IMO Kill is substantially better at analyzing and formulating plans. He’s smarter than Gon, not resorting to self destruction to learn / train his body.
If this were DBZ and they got ZanKai boosts it might be a different story but Kill got this in the bag.
This is no where near accurate 😭 adult gon is the only point of time gon is stronger than Killua. Nen battles isn’t decided by who has the bigger punch and more power output in a single strike. If that was the case then kurapika would’ve been powerless against Uvogin cuz there’s no way he has nearly as much total aura or aura output but even before he caught uvogin was caught in chains he was doing damage. Shii by your logic uvogin is among the strongest characters in the series. Yes Gon has more output but it’s also stated that Killua is among if not the greatest when it comes to nen efficiency, he knows when to use his not just blast out full power. And you completely leave out Killua assassin skills like rhythm echo. Killua doesn’t have to fight him straightforward. Killua is stronger at every point of the way (except again adult gon and possible enraged gon vs pre needle removed Killua) but post needle removed Killua becomes stronger again (with Godspeed)
Thank you for your comment. But the big thing to keep in mind is this:
If gon has a nen defense of 7000 aura. Then even killuas strongest and coolest looking attacks, wouldn’t even hurt gon.
If you observe netero vs meruem. Or uvogin vs kurapikas body guard coworkers. You’ll see what I mean.
Most of the bodyguards can’t even damage uvogin due to his aura. A sword breaks on his skin etc
@@LeelosAdventure killua is 80% an enhancer he is hurting the hell out of him with godspeed lightning on top of that 😭
Netero vs Meruem is not a good basis to compare.
Netero is/was the Number Nem users. And CA’s are literally built different, both, aura, etc. wise. And Meruem is the King of Ants.
With Piks vs Uvogin, that comparison isn’t good either, Uvo was a master enhancemer, Gon is not yet. And even then, Uvo’s skin was able to get cut into by others like Kurapika and the Shadow Beasts.
I think u a re relying too much on numbers and aura output (which Gon can’t keep forever anyways), while forgetting other things that matter in combat and other strengths.
(Like others mentioned, Apparently u didn’t mention Killua’s assassin abilities, really. And Killua has proficiency in other areas besides transmutation. Like enchantment. Which both him and Machi have a leaning towards).
Agreed, both are strong and help make up for each other’s differences and compliment each other.
But Killua, imo, has almost always been shown to be stronger overall.
My dude has been tortured/training/etc. his whole life.
And etc.
@@LeelosAdventure Why would Gon have higher Nen defense?
They would have similar, if not the same Aura.
Gon can output more Aura, because he is a prodigy (like Killua is) and an enhancer.
It doesn't mean Gon has more Aura (because he de doesn't).
This vid went from how gon vs killua would go throughout the arcs to glazing adult gon and mathematical calculations I love it XD
How is it glazing adult gon when all of its true. You're clearly a low IQ kid
You might be autistic if you think killua can beat adult gon
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End of series gon, PRE transformation, stomps.
Pitou was scared of Gon BEFORE he transformed. She didn't dare make a move on him. And tried to stall him. She was even worried about the king lol
Pitou wasnt scared bc Gon was so strong. They were scared bc Gon was mad and using the surgery technique requires ALL attention so Pitou couldnt actually use nen to attack or defend bc they wanted to keep the blind girl alive.
I just watched that moment the other day. Angry Gon was probably stronger than Kill there, but Pitou was still the strongest. She was only worried about not being able finish the healing.
@@ViltrumiteIsRite99 it was BOTH. I am NOT saying Gon would have won here.
But he absolutely could have put up a damn good fight, and still could have won with skill and planning.
I'm just saying he was a threat. That's different than being stronger.
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Wow. Amazing video. You did all the maths
I believed that we gonna see Gon as a main characters in 2060 from speed of story progression .
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