This is heartwarming and reminds me of the way people crew used to be. A simpler time where we were all respected and air travel was not violent and people where dressed nice and it was a lifetime event and privilege to be on a plane.
Great story about father and son. My son and I had our first flight together in July. As Captain and First Officer, for Alaska. A nice evening turn SEA-PHX-SEA. Only 117 degrees when we landed in PHX. Just like Barry, it is 28 years for me. Very proud event for me having that little boy who used to wear my Captain hat, now sitting next to me as my First Officer.
That is so awesome. I can't wait to one day fly with my son who is working his way up to the airlines. Dad retired with 34 years at TWA - I'm in my 36th year now with 8 to go~!!
TWA FA for 25 yrs and this video was so nice! Thanks for documenting this experience. Missing the little things now. taking the bus, walking through the tunnel, and etc. Miss our TWA family. We knew how to get it done! Miss working those L1011s too. We were really spoiled back then ahaha.
Really cool video. My first transpacific flight was on a TWA L-1011 from HNL to LAX. Fast forward and now I get to fly as Captain on an A330 back and forth across the Pacific.
This was really really cool. I wish there was more to this. The L-1011 was a great aircraft. It was the most graceful of all of the trijets. My first flight was on a Pan Am 747 flight to the Holy Land back in December of 88. We stayed for 5 days and we left on the 19th……..Lockerbie was 2 days later. I remember my dad said the travel agent told him that if we wanted to visit the Holy Land that now was the time to go and Pan Am was the most trusted and experienced airline. The agent said “terrorist activity was minimal” so we went. The family we stayed with wanted us to stay for 2 more days and my dad wanted to do it but we didn’t. Thankfully. We could’ve been on flight 103 because we flew out of London/Heathrow. I think of that regularly. I know flying has become much safer but I haven’t flown since then and probably never will. I just can’t put my life in someone else’s hands.
Fly again! You put your life in others hands every day. The car that stops at the red light, the train operator, the bus driver, the doctor, the airline pilots are the most reliable of the bunch!
I got to take the last flight you flew together on TWA as Captain and First Officer. Brian I am so glad you shared this because taking that last flight was something I will never forget. It was a very proud moment for all the Schiff family and those of us who love you father. I still remember your son in his little TWA uniform with his own special name tag. three generations of Schiff men on one flight. Now that is memorable.
What a great video! My dad was also a pilot for TWA. His name was John Kieffer (Jr). He flew with TWA from ‘64-‘94. And he also got the wonderful chance to copilot for my grandfather (John Kieffer Sr) got his retirement flight in the 60’s. I have a great photo of them in the cockpit preflight. I really enjoyed seeing this video! Thank you for sharing!!!
It was family! My mom was also a flight attendant until she married my dad. That was in the day they had to quit when they got married. My dad wasn’t a pilot at that time. She had flown with my grandfather though. There’s a couple TWA groups on Facebook. It’s fun to see the photos & videos and hear the stories. You should join.
I bought your Dads 3 book series, "The Proficient Pilot" from Amazon. I've read all three books back and forth several times. I don't have the time to fly real planes often, so I stick with Flight Simulation games. Mr. Schiff's book has added an entirely new dimension to my virtual flying. Just terrific........
The L-1011 was a money pit, the plane was maintenance greedy compared to other wide-bodies such as the DC-10, A300 and 747. It's beyond me how Delta was the world's largest L-1011 operator.
Neat story. Thanks for sharing. I didn't exactly follow in family footsteps, but big machery, & transporting always peaked my interests. Trucking, Farming, & Aviation were all part of my growing up. Trains also got my attention. When I was a young child my parents split up Mom raised in Montana, & Dad was rooted in California so as a result I flew a lot, hit the road or rode Amtrak with someone in the family often times. When I was young Aviation or Rail caught my interest the most, & my desire from as far back as I can remember was to be either an Airline Pilot or Locomotive Engineer, the latter won. Took me 10 years, but I now have 19 years under my belt, & living the dream.
@@BrianSchiff Nope, I'm a railroader working freight trains for a major western carrier as a Conductor, though I'm also a certified Engineer. My Dad was a crop duster, & flew Cobra's/Huey's in Vietnam, & my step Dad was a ground Supervisor for Northwest Orient in Butte, & Las Vegas back in the 80's. He knew a lot of pilots. Anyhow I was around aviation a lot growing up.
What a great video. I also shared my father's passion for flying. He was EA/AA but, unlike you, I did grow out of it (now with regrets). Best to you, Captain.
4:35 as Flight Engineer you had to understand the Systems and switches, nowerdays sure the Pilots have Training to fly the Aircraft, but there were cases, were Pilots relied on the Autopilot and the automatic approach system while automatic thrust reverser was turned off, and the aircraft continued to slow down, and then smashed on the ground before reaching the runway. The pilots received no warning about this, or received an acoustic warning (e.g. aircraft too slow) or computer announcement "increase speed", and an accident with fatalities occurred on a Boeing 777 on approach.
L1011 has a full automatic Landing System where Autopilot could land the plane safely even with almost 0 visibility, or very lod DH (Decision Height) such as 200-300 feet or less.
Awesome video, Brian! You're very lucky to have memories preserved in this manner. I never flew with your Dad, but shared just about everything else on this video, and have had fun sharing it with my own friends and family. Great stuff!
Glad I stumbled upon this vid. I remember seeing your picture on the wall at FSI in STL as an instructor on the 9 or 727. I was a newhire at Chautauqua undergoing training in 1998. I was hired by TWA in Jan 2001 but after AA purchased/merged with them I never received a class date. Then interviewed w AA Sept 9th and 10th 2001!!! Oh well,glad you made out ok. Mike V.
How did Brian’s career turn out? As they say in the airline world, you never know if you made the right decisions until you reach retirement age. Hopefully he had good years at AA.
My career turned out great. I'm still at American Airlines and have over 8 years to go until mandatory retirement. Our seniority integration could have gone better, but I've made the best of my flying career - and as I've always said, "It beats working for a living!" If you're ever on an AA flight - please watch for me.
What a truly heartwarming story. By now Brian should be in the left seat somewhere (AA?) or perhaps retired by now. Either way, this is what makes families great.
This is heartwarming and reminds me of the way people crew used to be. A simpler time where we were all respected and air travel was not violent and people where dressed nice and it was a lifetime event and privilege to be on a plane.
Thanks! It was a fun flight - one I'll never forget. You're right - flying is not like that anymore. Now we have the "Covid Clampets" ... LOL
TWA FA for 13 years this video made my almost cry
Great story about father and son. My son and I had our first flight together in July. As Captain and First Officer, for Alaska. A nice evening turn SEA-PHX-SEA. Only 117 degrees when we landed in PHX.
Just like Barry, it is 28 years for me. Very proud event for me having that little boy who used to wear my Captain hat, now sitting next to me as my First Officer.
That is so awesome. I can't wait to one day fly with my son who is working his way up to the airlines. Dad retired with 34 years at TWA - I'm in my 36th year now with 8 to go~!!
TWA FA for 25 yrs and this video was so nice! Thanks for documenting this experience. Missing the little things now. taking the bus, walking through the tunnel, and etc. Miss our TWA family. We knew how to get it done! Miss working those L1011s too. We were really spoiled back then ahaha.
I miss it too!
Really cool video. My first transpacific flight was on a TWA L-1011 from HNL to LAX. Fast forward and now I get to fly as Captain on an A330 back and forth across the Pacific.
Awesome - It was a memorable trip - then fast forward a bunch of years and I'm the captain on a trans-Pacific flight with dad on board. That was cool!
Great reminders from a great airline and s special aircraft. Jump seated many times on TWA's L1011 across the Atlantic. Those were the times.
Very cool video. It's like stepping back in time. Love seeing those PARS computers in the crew room too.
This was really really cool. I wish there was more to this. The L-1011 was a great aircraft. It was the most graceful of all of the trijets. My first flight was on a Pan Am 747 flight to the Holy Land back in December of 88. We stayed for 5 days and we left on the 19th……..Lockerbie was 2 days later. I remember my dad said the travel agent told him that if we wanted to visit the Holy Land that now was the time to go and Pan Am was the most trusted and experienced airline. The agent said “terrorist activity was minimal” so we went. The family we stayed with wanted us to stay for 2 more days and my dad wanted to do it but we didn’t. Thankfully. We could’ve been on flight 103 because we flew out of London/Heathrow. I think of that regularly. I know flying has become much safer but I haven’t flown since then and probably never will. I just can’t put my life in someone else’s hands.
what happened?
Fly again! You put your life in others hands every day. The car that stops at the red light, the train operator, the bus driver, the doctor, the airline pilots are the most reliable of the bunch!
Awwww…..very nice !! Congrats to both of you !!
Awesome, Dad!
What a lovely film. Thank you Barry and Brian Schiff.
I got to take the last flight you flew together on TWA as Captain and First Officer. Brian I am so glad you shared this because taking that last flight was something I will never forget. It was a very proud moment for all the Schiff family and those of us who love you father. I still remember your son in his little TWA uniform with his own special name tag. three generations of Schiff men on one flight. Now that is memorable.
Thanks - the @TheProficientPilot reply was me - that's my main RUclips channel.
It was wonderful having you and Doug on board for that very special flight. Barry.
Very nice, my father was a DL captain on the L10 until he retired in 1999! Love and miss that beast!
What a great video! My dad was also a pilot for TWA. His name was John Kieffer (Jr). He flew with TWA from ‘64-‘94. And he also got the wonderful chance to copilot for my grandfather (John Kieffer Sr) got his retirement flight in the 60’s. I have a great photo of them in the cockpit preflight. I really enjoyed seeing this video! Thank you for sharing!!!
Thank you for your comments! TWA was a family airline - there were many parent-kid teams there! What memories!
It was family! My mom was also a flight attendant until she married my dad. That was in the day they had to quit when they got married. My dad wasn’t a pilot at that time. She had flown with my grandfather though. There’s a couple TWA groups on Facebook. It’s fun to see the photos & videos and hear the stories. You should join.
I bought your Dads 3 book series, "The Proficient Pilot" from Amazon. I've read all three books back and forth several times. I don't have the time to fly real planes often, so I stick with Flight Simulation games. Mr. Schiff's book has added an entirely new dimension to my virtual flying. Just terrific........
Thanks for taking the time to say so! I'm working on setting up my own home sim - I'll have to reach out to you if I have problems! -- Brian
I really enjoyed TWA, and the L-1011 doesn’t get better than that. As a dad this is a pretty special moment.
The L-1011 was a money pit, the plane was maintenance greedy compared to other wide-bodies such as the DC-10, A300 and 747. It's beyond me how Delta was the world's largest L-1011 operator.
Neat story. Thanks for sharing. I didn't exactly follow in family footsteps, but big machery, & transporting always peaked my interests. Trucking, Farming, & Aviation were all part of my growing up. Trains also got my attention. When I was a young child my parents split up Mom raised in Montana, & Dad was rooted in California so as a result I flew a lot, hit the road or rode Amtrak with someone in the family often times. When I was young Aviation or Rail caught my interest the most, & my desire from as far back as I can remember was to be either an Airline Pilot or Locomotive Engineer, the latter won. Took me 10 years, but I now have 19 years under my belt, & living the dream.
So you're an airline pilot now?
@@BrianSchiff Nope, I'm a railroader working freight trains for a major western carrier as a Conductor, though I'm also a certified Engineer. My Dad was a crop duster, & flew Cobra's/Huey's in Vietnam, & my step Dad was a ground Supervisor for Northwest Orient in Butte, & Las Vegas back in the 80's. He knew a lot of pilots. Anyhow I was around aviation a lot growing up.
What a great video. I also shared my father's passion for flying. He was EA/AA but, unlike you, I did grow out of it (now with regrets). Best to you, Captain.
Thank you. It only took my 5 years to respond to your kind words, but I eventually did!
I dont know if you visit this channel much, but could you briefly explain if you guys had a relief crew on those flights?
Great video
4:35 as Flight Engineer you had to understand the Systems and switches, nowerdays sure the Pilots have Training to fly the Aircraft, but there were cases, were Pilots relied on the Autopilot and the automatic approach system while automatic thrust reverser was turned off, and the aircraft continued to slow down, and then smashed on the ground before reaching the runway. The pilots received no warning about this, or received an acoustic warning (e.g. aircraft too slow) or computer announcement "increase speed", and an accident with fatalities occurred on a Boeing 777 on approach.
What a wonderful life experience!
Thanks, Mark. It is one of the highlights of my life--which I will never forget.
Thank you! Nice video, beatiful aircraft!
Glad you enjoyed it. I miss the L-1011.
Traditionally TWA like PANAM were terrific carriers, and who isn't a fan of the 1011? It's all good.
Thanks, Bobby! I agree. Sure miss the L-1011!
L1011 has a full automatic Landing System where Autopilot could land the plane safely even with almost 0 visibility, or very lod DH (Decision Height) such as 200-300 feet or less.
Awesome video, Brian! You're very lucky to have memories preserved in this manner. I never flew with your Dad, but shared just about everything else on this video, and have had fun sharing it with my own friends and family. Great stuff!
I consider myself blessed. (It only took me 8 years to respond to this ... sorry.) I've converted to my main RUclips channel: @TheProficientPilot
What a great video! I’d love to see where both of their careers went after the closure of TWA.
flew TWA in '83
pretty sure it's logged in my Junior Jet Club log book,
where ever that is!
Wonder if Brian is still flying commercial today and for who
Hi Albert - I am still flying commercially for American Airlines based in DFW. Tailwinds.... Brian
Check out my website: www.captainschiff.com
Really cool, Barry.
Glad I stumbled upon this vid. I remember seeing your picture on the wall at FSI in STL as an instructor on the 9 or 727. I was a newhire at Chautauqua undergoing training in 1998. I was hired by TWA in Jan 2001 but after AA purchased/merged with them I never received a class date. Then interviewed w AA Sept 9th and 10th 2001!!! Oh well,glad you made out ok. Mike V.
lol wow. Being low seniority, were you furloughed or able to work during the post-9/11 slump?
L-1011. Magic.
Wow that is so cool Dad and Son...
What a lovely story!
Beautiful video 😊
That was beautiful.
That's pretty cool that you guys got to do the job together! Too bad Howard's airline came to such an end. Zei gezunt.
Nice video guys! I enjoy seeing you when you come out to KCMA for an FAASafety event!
Love the Rolls powered L1011
I envy you Brian...I wish I had a father such as yours.
my favorite airplane to fly...
What is that comparment at 4:18. Looks like an elevator?
Yes, it is an elevator (lift). It was used to transport crew members and galley carts from the lower galley to the main cabin deck.
I remember those days when pilots used to carry heavy bags of thick flight manuals and charts. Today, they just carry a tablet.
How did Brian’s career turn out? As they say in the airline world, you never know if you made the right decisions until you reach retirement age. Hopefully he had good years at AA.
My career turned out great. I'm still at American Airlines and have over 8 years to go until mandatory retirement. Our seniority integration could have gone better, but I've made the best of my flying career - and as I've always said, "It beats working for a living!" If you're ever on an AA flight - please watch for me.
memories flew with barry as a captain a lot flew all those flights as fsm..
Wow, you let your kid touch the prop of that Cessna! Absolutely never do that!
Calm down Karen .. jeez 🙄
No nepotism at all....
Brian is flipping burgers at McDonald's today with no more F. engineers needed...
No...He's a Captain at American. Flight engineers are pilots who upgrade over time.
Yup.
I LOVED THE L10LL BACK IN THE 80 -90 NOTHING NO SAFER THAN THAT PLANE
Sour grapes?
What a truly heartwarming story. By now Brian should be in the left seat somewhere (AA?) or perhaps retired by now. Either way, this is what makes families great.
Thanks - that @TheProficientPilot post was me. ;-)