John J. Mearsheimer: Can China Rise Peacefully?
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- Опубликовано: 30 апр 2024
- Public Policy Lecture Series, April 16, 2014
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The right question should be "Can USA decline peacefully?" Compared to USA, China has been boringly peaceful for decades . 😊
at 34:10 mark, the audience asked this question. Mearsheimer basically says US is a ruthless hegemon and will try to prevent China from a peaceful rise (at 38:40)
China is only peaceful to some, exclude the USA.
The true losers can't remember any facts. China has killed thousands of UN army soldiers already. China is the ONLY UN member that had killed thousands of UN soldiers, including thousands of the US soldiers, led by the US five-star general and superior emperor of Japan, Douglas MacArthur. John J. Mearsheimer is a true loser, and a low class one.
That is a good question to ask because we have seen that the West had risen with unspeakable brutality -- from slave trade to looting of natural resources from colonial lands to devastation of native populations. The answer to your question appears to be affirmative considering the military conflicts involving the USA.
The former foreign secretary of Britain has said it took Britain 100 years to get used to not being number one.
very true! USSR did decline peacefully
USSR could have asked the US to share everything half and half otherwise we all die
"Can China Rise Peacefully?" That is the wrong question. The correct question is, "Can the US decline peacefully?"
This question immediately disqualify because of the "peacefully" at the end.
Shut up CCP bot
probably, US only fights lopsided wars technologically, the people are soft and can't tolerate many deaths
@@sakceeYou shut the shit up! He was absolutely right to ask if the UassA Empire of Lies can accept decline peacefully without wanting to drag the whole world down with it
Impossible for the "exceptional" country.
The question should be "Can the U.S. allow China to rise peacefully?"
This question is waste time to ask. Everyone on the earth know USA will try very hard to not let any nation surpass him.
"Can the U.S. allow China to rise peacefully?", LOL why would China or any countries require U$ to "allow", what is there to "allow"?
To allow would suggest that U$ owns China or has authority over China, like your parents will "allow" you to go out.
China does not need anyone to "allow" it to self develop, move forward, trade with other sovereign states!!!
History had told, example the Plaza Agreement 1985 Japan v USA. China will not enter that trap.
This lecture was 10 years ago, and J Mearsheimer still look at China same.
As John Mearsheimer said in Ottawa University (Q&A part) the US will not 'be happy' if Brazil devellops and becomes a rival. But many stupid or criminal Brazilians still believe or pretend to believe that the US government is a friend.
YES... THAT is the proper question! JM approaches his "realism" with American/Western values, so his realism is biased.
10 years past from this lecture and China still not in any war.
you probably aren't aware there was a standoff of 2 carrier battle groups made noise around the man-made islands in 2016. US lost the standoff.
Was this lecture 10 years old? I thought it was a recent lecture, like maybe a week ago?
@@iwanagohome326watch again, the first minutes gave description this video recorded in 2014
Mearsheimer point is not that great power war between US and China is inevitable. What Mearsheimer believe is that security competition between them is likely, not great power war
U$ "experts" makes money from selling fear
China had risen peacefully already.
China is only peaceful to some, exclude the USA.
The true losers can't remember any facts. China has killed thousands of UN army soldiers already. China is the ONLY UN member that had killed thousands of UN soldiers, including thousands of the US soldiers, led by the US five-star general and superior emperor of Japan, Douglas MacArthur. John J. Mearsheimer is a true loser, and a low class one.
yes it can
Not yet .. not yet
@@JaiRudraNath Pajjeet, How's manual scavenging going
it will keep rising
The U.S. needs to accept that a non-Anglo European country can be a world power.
It has happened many times before the U.S. even existed or the West was still in the Dark Age.
reality is China doesn't care and it will simply continue on with development, innovation and global trade.
It is all up to U$ and if U$ doesn't like it, they have 2 options either they do better by means of innovation offer better deals, or try to invade China...if they have the balls and the money to do it! Let's not forget U$ is already $35T in debt and rising!!!
China had been the World's major power in her long history!
Why would they "need to accept" that? As bad as the US is, I'd rather the US be in charge than the Chinese, and so would most of the world. Whether it will happen or not is still in question, but to say any country should "let them rise to power" is contradictory to every empire in the history of forever. No country gives up their power without a fight.
@@dartskihutch4033 well, obviously they need to accept that potentiality because it's the truth, i guess many rather the US be the hegemon but i think they've demonstrated that they are not fit for the task time and time again, (and i don't say that others are, for the record) and they are in a fast decline both morally and internally, so... we just have to see if they get their act together
The main issue with John is that, he views China through his US lense. His main theory is based on if US did X, Y and Z, China will do X, Y and Z whilst not appreciating the difference in culture of these 2 countries undermines his key points completely.
Some said John is an anti-war, that is so untrue. He is against what NATO does in Ukraine but thinks US should put the whole world at risk of being wiped out by provoking China and Taiwan as well as going to war if required.
He has described his theory repeatedly for more than 10 years without any change. He has grown older but not wiser. He views the cultural aspects of geopolitics solely from a Euro-centric approach. The world order of China is not the world order of JM and the US.
China is only peaceful to some, exclude the USA.
The true losers can't remember any facts. China has killed thousands of UN army soldiers already. China is the ONLY UN member that had killed thousands of UN soldiers, including thousands of the US soldiers, led by the US five-star general and superior emperor of Japan, Douglas MacArthur. John J. Mearsheimer is a true loser, and a low class one.
Completely agree with both comments. These people can never get out of their Western centric view, end up their entire perspective is nothing but projection. Not taking accounts of Chinese historical precedents and cultural differences makes his theory on China baseless.
US did genocide the native Americans, China will do genocide the Americans, because no more native Americans.
"...whilst not appreciating the difference in culture..." -> We need to understand that John is an academic in realism school of thought. Realism theory doesn't concern itself with cultures, it's mainly about great power politics. Like in other academic fields, you pick a field and a specific theory (e.g. Physics, string theory), and become an expert in that particular topic.
Americans get nightmares about what they have done all over the world.🙏
and sadly continue to do so... they are even doing it internally to themselves at this point.. recipe for disaster
Ah yes, the most peaceful and prosperous era in human history. Truly evil stuff by America.
The question should really be: will America allow China to rise or rise peacefully
China is only peaceful to some, exclude the USA.
The true losers can't remember any facts. China has killed thousands of UN army soldiers already. China is the ONLY UN member that had killed thousands of UN soldiers, including thousands of the US soldiers, led by the US five-star general and superior emperor of Japan, Douglas MacArthur. John J. Mearsheimer is a true loser, and a low class one.
No Chinese will not rise peacefully because fundamental to rise peacefully is absence of fear and the International system is formulated in a way which will always create a security dillemma and will not allow any major power to rise peacefully.
"Can" or "Could"
America allow....
If the tables were turned would China allow America to rise peacefully?
There are two weaknesses in John's assumption - The lack of understanding on cultural difference and historical development of the Chinese. There is this missional topic about Cross-Cultural study in order for one to be effective in missional outreach into a different culture. The same is needed to understand India etc.
Territorial disputes in Asia are legacy imposed and caused by the West during the colonial period of the past. We in Asia believe that multilateralism in a multi-polar world will works better for world peace.
Agreed... basing Chinese future behavior based on American characteristics is ridiculous.
JM cannot help being an American and can only project his American Consciousness (or lack of), and experiences on China. Would be beneficial for him to research China's history as he did European history, especially on his understanding of Ukraine. Spending time with people like George Yeo and Kishore Mahbhubani, could certainly be very helpful in giving him deeper insights and nuances into the Chinese mind. His understanding of Taiwan's relationship with the mainland is pathetic. Folks like him and Ziggy Brezinsky (can't spell his name!), reveals their Consciousness have not evolved from those barbaric days of survival winner takes all mentality and what's yours is mine and what's mine remains mine! No concept of Win- Win and shared prosperity.
Basically, for John's theories that the world's conflicts and wars needed to be maintained or even created by the USA in other countries, so it can keep its brutality hegemony power indefinitely...
Therefore, with the similar but opposite reasoning for the argument is that, to have a more peaceful and prosperous world, the USA must become weaker and poorer as much as possible, so it's no longer be able to creat so many wars and miseries in the world! 😂
More than that, the loss of US social cohesion is permanent due to its immigration policy, its military capability is only going to decline.
B.S. territorial dispute among country in Asia have been there before the west.
The question is not whether China can rise peacefully or not. The question is: Can the USA ( Empire) take it peacefully? If all the anti-China policies, sanctions and disinformation are factored in together with war-mongering industries and Washington's self-interests, the Empire will likely go rage, rage and rage into the good night.
China has far more protectionism, "anti-USA policies" (wumao like you), and disinformation than the USA. The USA returns 1% of that, and all of the wumao go crazy.
Meanwhile the rest of the world asks: Can United States fall peacefully?
Mearsheimer is an honest imperialist, that's what I appreciate about him. Most are not. Not the best covering China but relatively great in the West.
China is only peaceful to some, exclude the USA.
The true losers can't remember any facts. China has killed thousands of UN army soldiers already. China is the ONLY UN member that had killed thousands of UN soldiers, including thousands of the US soldiers, led by the US five-star general and superior emperor of Japan, Douglas MacArthur. John J. Mearsheimer is a true loser, and a low class one.
I can't agree more. He is basically against anything bad to US supremacy, domestic or abroad
35:34 "the Chinese have precipitated remarkably few crises" and yes do have "a vested interest in rising peacefully" while "the United States is a ruthless great power" that just ignored Nixons advice to assist Russia.
China is only peaceful to some, exclude the USA.
The true losers can't remember any facts. China has killed thousands of UN army soldiers already. China is the ONLY UN member that had killed thousands of UN soldiers, including thousands of the US soldiers, led by the US five-star general and superior emperor of Japan, Douglas MacArthur. John J. Mearsheimer is a true loser, and a low class one.
The title should be "How did China rise so peacefully and quietly?"
This guy doesn't understand China ang China history, that was why he said he didn't know what Chinese is going to do after 30 years later.
Yes, he doesn't know that China has long term plans and objectives like 50 and 100 years milestones! They have a few thousand years of rise and fall, and surely they know their history well, and what to expect in time to come.
Mearsheimer is a liberal hegemonist. He's written a whole book about it and how Western hegemony must be maintained.
His stance doesn't have anything to do with knowing it not knowing the history of China: I'm a retired literature professor and if I know enough about the history of China to know that it's always rejected hegemonic behaviour, I'm sure Mearsheimer too is fully aware of this. That's why he dances around the issue and needs his "theory of great power" behaviour. He needs an excuse, a rationale for what he wants, which is to persuade US elites that a war with China is necessary.
@@vaska1999 china was the hegemon in their region, this is obvious. they even had a pretty harsh rules and rituals which was meant to confirm their dominance over their neighbours.
The reasons why they never tried to project their power further can be debated. I'm convinced that it would have been impossible and hence it may not have crossed their minds. To their west any expansion would have been impossible and to the south they did try to project their power.
I think their geography created a culture to go along with it..... contain themselves to the region itself. And at the time that was hard enough. Civil wars and uprisings and attacks from nomads were enough for them to be busy the whole time.
" Not sure what yoy mean with ( he is a liberal hegemonist ) International relations is the most simple semi-science in the world. It just is 2+2=2
And mearsheimer is just that 2+2=4
International relations were like this 5000 years ago and to this day not much has changed
@@farsalami8605 you haven't got the point in China history yet. History-wise, the "under the sky" region was all that they care about, which only includes China proper. It was Manchu with a steppe mind brought Tibet, Mongolia, Xinjiang and Manchuria into this picture. Unless there is anything exceptional, Chinese mind is limited in this area, the area where Chinese culture is permeated. Land beyond the area, belongs to foreigners (or barbarian), not appropriate for Chinese state to take. When ROC came into being, they were even thinking to only keep China proper, somehow they eventually decided to keep what Qing left to them including Tibet and others, as it's the heritage of Qing, the last Chinese dynasty.
@@fargr5926 " what you say... is called by people " Orientalism" which proposes that The " chinese mind" i static, it does not change. It essentially is what it was during the Qing, tang etc.
If you get the opportunity... go to china and stay for a while. You'll see that they are " alomost" just like other people.
Btw i know china and chinese people reasonably well. I dod not say all you said is BS....... But your conclusion is a cheap popular thing people say which is baseless at best. Chinese were btw very well aware of the world beyond them..... and had ambitions beyond " china proper" It did not work out. You miisunderstand the situation in certain era's. One thing to consider is the interaction between the sedentary people and the warrior-like nomadic people. In eurasia this came mostly from the north. And in case of china and iran this was the primary threat. they were much more preoccupied with them than anythingelse. As an example..... iran would gladly leave territory to rome to conquer than let the northers confederations defeat them Their priority was never rome.... it was always the northeners ( different names in different times ). Chinese had the same problem ( arguably.. a little less dangerous, because of the smaller numbers of the nomadic confederations= i have no data for this .... this is my logical imagination )
Anyway in went too far with my comment lol sorry... i like to speculate about history.
Chinese are not the chinese of 100 year ago.... americans are not the americans of 100 years ago... Arabs are also changed.... indians have changed.....
The idea of a pro-active policies has clearly taken china and indeed it was not so 300 years a go. I hope you forgive any sub-standard sentences i have made.... i think my overall comment should be intelligible
In core, professor Mearishimar is a dangerous extremist, rather than a realist.
In reality, there always co-exists might vs anti-might, force vs anti-force, or action vs reaction force. But he single-mindedly preachs his type of alternative reality, “might makes rule". That's, brutal violence sets world order. The consequence is the U.S. is quickly depleting its diplomatic strength and financial resources, and declining quickly too.
China is only peaceful to some, exclude the USA.
The true losers can't remember any facts. China has killed thousands of UN army soldiers already. China is the ONLY UN member that had killed thousands of UN soldiers, including thousands of the US soldiers, led by the US five-star general and superior emperor of Japan, Douglas MacArthur. John J. Mearsheimer is a true loser, and a low class one.
He is an Amercican Exceptionist, for sure.
And give me your theory of why China would not want to become the greatest power in the system. Have you been a decision maker in their system or you are an astrologer that China will not behave exactly like west in future. Comeon mr expert i wanna hear your " Theory"
His realistic worldviews are interesting, but still US-overcentred. He completely fails in understanding the unique Chinese mindset, which is the very key of that civilization's exceptional capacity of sustainability for 4+ millenia. Such a pity he's probably too old to learn more seriously about Taoism...
@@fabiengerard8142 Since you mentioned Taoism...
Johnny boy should know something about Christianity and have heard of God Bless America numerous times...
If Christianity has any value, little Johnny should know that God must go against the communists in China for being godless.
If God Bless America has any value, Johnny should not worry about China's rise violently.
The USA should see itself as one among many, and not the one above many.
The Imperial Germans, Nazis, Imperial Japanese, and Soviets said the same thing
Wars fit for Mearsheimear’s theory, while coups for Fukuyama’s. But both obey the Law of Instrument: When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
The neo-realism is too Hobbesian. Don’t make it a self-fulfilling prophecy. Use the brain to think of a better theory with a better human nature.
He is an American and no matter what he still prefer America to be the hegemon. Its very difficult for westerners to accept to be outdone by Asians after many centuries of world dominance and I can understand this . But the fact Asia rises and the west decline is becoming a reality and nothing can stop it.
No not Asians only " Han Chinese" don't group Asians to further your objectives. Chinese were and are the greatest benefactor of being in the bed with the West since 1970s . Remember Nixon and Mao reopening and China admitted in WTO .
Yes ! Yes ! Yes !! Nothing can stop it.
CHINA IS UNSTOPPABLE !!!
Asians don't make enough babies to keep the momentum on
this
I agree completely. His GPP is based on American dominance as well as American self exceptionalism. This is not Chinese behavior. He's an American and cannot understand China at all. But I've always believed this professor is actually a CIA puppet.
Mearsheimer isn't an expert on China like Kishore Mahbubani. So whatever he opines about China is limited.
Yess yes !! Mehbubani is a expert because he says West bad and China good . Right ?
Mearsheimer isn't expert on China on cultural and historical aspect of that country. He's more focused on security issues regarding China
Mahbubani basically has more positive views regarding China's rise as great power
While his view might be limited it may be a good place to start for westerners who are new to the topic.
But can China Rise Peacefully?
John and Mearsheimer's realism ignores real facts, including the Chinese killing thousands of soldiers of the UN army, talking about against the whole world, including the killing of thousands of American soldiers in Korea, which was done with inferior weapons. Thanks to Americans constantly reminding the Chinese of genocide, Now, with equal or even superior weapons and nukes, the Chinese will genocide Americans for sure to serve justice for Native Americans.
China is a blessing and benefactor to the world 👍♥️🇨🇳
China is only peaceful to some, exclude the USA.
The true losers can't remember any facts. China has killed thousands of UN army soldiers already. China is the ONLY UN member that had killed thousands of UN soldiers, including thousands of the US soldiers, led by the US five-star general and superior emperor of Japan, Douglas MacArthur. John J. Mearsheimer is a true loser, and a low class one.
Uhhhhhh careful now. Just because you hate the US doesn't mean China is a "blessing". You must be very naive to the doings and history of China.
wumao
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It's always a pleasure listening to John Mearsheimer
I'm currently doing my undergrad in Pol sci and today he really got into the basics of IR and clarified so many concepts.
John is obviously not familiar with Chinese history and political traditions. China is a face-loving celestial country. In ancient times, as long as neighboring countries such as Japan, North Korea, and Vietnam paid tribute, China would not dictate their internal affairs. Just like Columbus sailed for plunder, Zheng He of China's Ming Dynasty sailed to the West to showcase China and give gifts.
FGS he's even using Pentagon strategies to label Chinese aggressiveness... China is not the USA... which he doesn't seem to comprehend.
That's not the reason. The real reason is that China's economic model does not give it incentive to be aggressive. The west gains economic advantage by taking resources and labor from other country. The Chinese, on the hand, has always been a surplus production country. What it wanted was open markets to sell it's excess production and accumulate wealth. The trade surplus and wealth disparity makes it a target of war in the past. There is no reason to think it'll be any different this time around.
@@henli-rw5dwDidn't the West’s rise was due significantly to plunders and wars? The stolen resources have been contributing to its First World status, up to this very day. The USD as the world reserve currency gave it an 'exhorbitant privilege', basically parasiting on the whole world to grow fat and rich. China on the other hand, did it the hard but more honest way
@@iwanagohome326 You mean US does not care about face??? Silly
"as long as they paid tribute" is a key point. In fact, Zheng He was sent out on his journeys to militarily enforce Chinese intentions and the payment of tribute. This is exactly what he is talking about.
There is so much in this lecture that a whole class could and should be given on its interpretation.
So this video originally recorded in 2014. So why upload now? Or this is just a reupload?
Read "Towers of Ivory and Steel" and ask yourself why Reed still partners with universities that violate human rights and John gave a great talk so on that note keep it up
China is only peaceful to some, exclude the USA.
The true losers can't remember any facts. China has killed thousands of UN army soldiers already. China is the ONLY UN member that had killed thousands of UN soldiers, including thousands of the US soldiers, led by the US five-star general and superior emperor of Japan, Douglas MacArthur. John J. Mearsheimer is a true loser, and a low class one.
Banger I love this guy and he has good things to say on Israel Gaza
Thanks for the upload
When was the talk given?
I can’t understand why the rise of China is bad for Taiwan. This is only in the thoughts of outsiders and especially the one from US perspective.
What is so difficult to have a prosperous Taiwan within a powerful motherland and especially when they are treated with very special priority and able to functions as they used to be in politics and governance.
So, why sow negativity just to ensure that Taiwan will remain status quo for the US outpost. For goodness sake, they are both Chinese and for those small numbers whose intention of independence and the uninformed gullible, selfish public to allow the Taiwan people’s interests to be ruined?
Like, which state wants to be themselves when they are living in the shell of the USA, the most powerful country.
"China good, West bad" right wumao?
@@dfdf-rj8jr Truth hurts
I mean to this question I would ask another... How long did last the last historical empire ? Not less than 20, 50, 100 years. It's a new paradigm that is here for the rest of our life at least. We should adapt instead of staying into denial.
Judging by the 180+ US military bases and 40+ biolabs surrounding it, I’d take a jab here and say “No?”
You cannot explain the rise and future of China following Western guide lines... especially not the United States behavior which has always been violent, capitalist and expansionist... it just doesn't make sense.
China is not an expansionist, aggressive empire like the US and the EU these days that cannot endure equal competition.
They haven't been expansionist because they have never had the power to do so.. don't be naive, you think China wouldn't act like the US if they had an overwhelming military? Or even worse than the US? You don't judge a country on their behaviours when powerless, you judge them on their actions when in power. It's easy for someone with no power to be morally righteous, it takes immense effort for a powerful person to be morally righteous.
@@dartskihutch4033 You don't understand the Chinese ethos. The answer is no.
America is an aggressive expansionist power which subjugates other people. That's not China. China is a trading empire.
Always was.. always will be.
Just look at China's efforts in third world countries in Asia, Africa and South America... their cooperation is in unison with local governments, not building military bases and demanding power over those countries everywhere like the US does, but building infrastructure and improving local commerce so international trade becomes valuable to China.
That's an essential difference between these 2 world powers.
PS... Don't forget civilization in China is thousands of years older than the US & Europe.
"China good, West bad" right wumao?
true. Exactly !
Brilliant! Performance? Yes! But unquestionably brilliant.
Mearsheimer's theory assume rational state behaviour. The problem for the western world is that they confuse Chinese rationalism to be the same as western rationalism. It is not. China pursues greatness not through war but commerce.
"China good, West bad" right wumao?
I personally love the United States, but we are tired of its isolation in the world and its foreign policy, and I think that many agree with me, but at the same time the rise of China is very scary and I do not wish for a war to occur between China and America. I hope that American politicians will listen to people like Professor John so that we can avoid war as much as possible.
Thanks for the rich lecture❤
Its always amazing that why we common people are not taught these international political concepts in schools. RUclips has made it possible for common people like us to even hear such things but this is how the world works. Interesting
Haha. I didn’t realize that that talk was from 2014 until about half way through…
First minutes of this video basically give description that this video recorded in 2014
intelligent conversation.
Hehe, Mr. John J. Mearsheimer? He thinks that the Chinese think in the same way that he thinks, with limited vision. Does a power always seek hegemony? In your Westerner's mentality, absolutely yes. But in the oriental wisdom, no, at least not necessarily. Chinese research tanks nowadays know way more about the US than the reverse. John might have been to China for times but still hasn't got a clue about the oriental wisdom. After thousands of years of precipitation, we have found that "if disagreed, be a better yourself to invite agreement"! But the American theory is "if disagreed, I will kill you"!
That's what the Realism school of thought (a model of international relation between countries) says, it's not about the person. Anyone who picks Realism (or specializes in, in case of academics), probably has similar thoughts and conclusions as John.
@@hitthedeck4115Give me your theory mr expert why China would not want to be the greatest power in international system!!
@@harshitsingh1600 Not only wanting, but they are working hard to achieve that. This is their only path according to Realism. And because of this inevitability, they will invariably clash with the US which is "the tragedy of Great Power politics" as John named his book as such.
@@hitthedeck4115 That's what i m saying but many Chinese and superficial geopolitical specialist here are claiming how China is great and has different culture which will make them to take different path . All bs peddled when we can know from the capabilities which they are building like blue water navy , claiming entire SCS and grabbing land here and there . At the end as Jhon says " Why do you not want to becoming Godzilla in the anarchic world " .
He's approaching this theory with his American mind... which is completely different from the Chinese philosophy to growth.
Mozambique salutes the lecture
JM is outing himself as a white supremacist!
Lmao the Chinese call anyone who disagrees with them a "white supremacist"
There are almost 200 military bases of USA and UK surrounding China from Japan to Malaca strait... why ??? Why all those troops, war planes, strategic bombers, submarines, strategic misils, etc, etc.
To protect globo ho mo
Containment
I like JM more and more. He is not playing around. Slaps you with his theory right in the face
John M's theory is a theory from a bully of cowardice. It is based solely on “以小人之心，度君子之腹”. Basically he says - The #1 goal is to be the bully in your school. The #2 goal is to make sure there is no other bully in your school. Let me interpret it with an example. ...So, this kid who had been bullied by you went to learn Karate to avoid being bullied. He started by getting a white belt and working toward a black one. It does not matter the kid's intention was just to better himself so that he won't be bullied. That is because we cannot tell the future, and no one can tell others' intentions now nor in the future. So for fear of your own survival, you double down your bullying and make sure the kid does not get the black belt and potentially becomes a bully. There is no telling what the Karate kid will turn into. After all, why wouldn't the kid who you bullied before will make you pay back? You would if the table is turned. Whatever holes there is with this theory, it can be explained away with that we cannot be certain about others' intentions. The whole theory is very laughable.
"China good, West bad" right wumao?
1:04:51 - what were the other 75% about?
Unfortunately it is not how things work
It seems JM's biggest influences are his mother
and the bully in the (us) classroom
Mother
"God will help them who help themselves" : China is actually adhering to that in a peaceful way
"Always be aware of the bully in the classroom": China is conducting itself in the appropriate diplomatic manner
Somehow Mearsheimer never apply his theory to Israel, which he always derides
He used domestic variable to explain US-Israel relation, hence neorealism not used by Mearsheimer to understand special relationship between Washington and Tel Aviv
but he does,
although i'm not sure what specific thing are you looking for
"China good, West bad" right wumao?
Talk should have been delivered on " will US gracefully accept the new super power of international order as Britshers did after WW2"
Very good. From 10 years on, we can see that Israel/Palestine falls into the 25%+ he gets wrong, but he admits that his theory doesn't deal with nonstate actors or actors who have been made desperate enough to risk the "irrational"
The question not whether China can rise peacefully as they proved since WW2 they have rather whether the US can recede peacefully as they have proved they cannot
This lecture is from 2014, 10 years ago. Why was this interesting yet very obsolete uploaded 3 weeks ago? So much has changed.
John Mearsheimer has been exactly correct about everything he’s had to say for a long time. It’s my humble opinion that he should use his theoretical framework and intellect to work on the bigger picture issues we’re going to be confronted with as a species (which all happen to be interconnected). He’s nailed the IR part of the equation. He should venture out of his comfort zone and try to tackle the other parts of the equation which all together are referred to as the metacrises.
Does question "Can China Rise Peacefully?" have to do anything with USA preventing the rise of China? Wouldn't the answer to this question also depend on actions taken by USA? or is USA considered force of nature?
中美两国像在同班念书的学生； 中国来自乡下，有点木讷，老实，只知道勤奋读书，入校成绩很差，被人瞧不起，但是好在慢慢追赶。 美国是那个班里最闪亮的公子哥，家境优渥，聪明好动，学习能力很强，人见人爱，入校时也是第一名。 慢慢的美国骄傲了，不爱努力学习了，开始搞派对，玩乐队，飞大麻叶子，拉帮结派欺负别的同学了。 中国还是持续努力。 眼瞧着到了期末考试了，美国也有点着急了，但积重难返，一个学期欠下来的功课怎可能1周赶上？ 中国说你别急，你那么聪明，慢慢来肯定能考好。 美国说，我他妈信你个鬼！到时候老子急了把你们卷子都撕了，大家都是零分！ 我考不好，谁他妈也别想考好！ 😂
你也太埋汰中国了，中国祖上富的时候，美国还不知道在哪呢。
This lecture is from 2014. Someone should show this video to Mearsheimer and ask him if his opinion changed on anything he said here... Especially when he said Russia and Ukraine confrontation is not much of a hot spot likely to cause WW3.
He contradicts himself while taking about Russia and China, lacking facts and being subjective on the latter, same as most westerns.
thank god this guy is not an elected official or federal government decision maker. Pray he keeps his day job forever.
Power is never given, is always taken
Amazing! and sad!
John J. Mearsheimer is not an expert. He assumes and makes his conclusion based on his US lens of geopolitics theories that is linear of competition of great powers.
What I find striking in your plausible approach is how incredibly pointless and dangerous all this competitive activity has become. The development of competitive states may describe the death of civilization. Humans are limited by environmental conditions. This reality is ignored in your approach.
The only part that aged well was the part about Russia/Ukriane, thats the part he actually had extensive knowledge on, the rest are just his dogmatic personal beliefs and projections, based mostly on an Americentric view (most scholars tend to at least try to steer away from their own culture bias and be at least somewhat objective). Since this lecture America has been involved in wars in Libya Yemen Syria Palestine Ukraine etc. while China participated exactly 0 war in the same time period, expect the same trend for the next 3 or 4 decades, Americans and their proxies love bombing other countries while demonizing the Chinese.
EVERYONE Should rise peacefully (in their Right mind)!!
As far I know the nukes technically were in Ukraine, but the actual control over them belonged to Russia anyway.
this lecture is from 2014? and yet it still sounds quite relevant
I think it is a typo, should be 2024. (posted five days ago )
@@jerrychao9742 but then he talks about an impending “intifada” which kinda is what Oct 7 was, wasn’t it? He also speaks about impending Ukraine-Russia war which is happening right at this moment 🤷🏻♀️
The Chinese through sheer hard work have brought 800 million of its population from abject poverty to near middle class within the last 3 to 4 decades is unprecedented in the world. Look at every major Economic parameters from Health span,mortality rate, home ownership,car ownership,internet penetration,education levels..etc etc it is the fastest progress the world has ever seen.
This was archieved without a war..a invasion..a regime change ..a colonization spree..or plundering of other natives resources etc..How on Earth can this not be classified as the most Peacefull rise of a Nation ever..
Look at " Great: Britain how many colonies did it Ravished..France..Spain and even US on the number of Fertile Territories from Texas to Carlifornia it took from Mexico ..etc ( The Mexicans are returning the favour by coming back to resettle it😢)
Of Course the Speaker here is not into the morality question but just Real politics ..US just wants to be the no 1 Dorminant Power of the world ..and will do its utmost to supress any upcoming power ..
US and the West fears that the next non West Dorminant Power will BEHAVE just like them..
But don t worry the Chinese DNA through their 4 000 years history has shown that they are non Evangelistic and For "God King and Country " Colonizing methodology but a more The Prosperity Gospel stream..😊..
Ie Prosper thy neighbour so that in turn thy neigbour will buy more stuff from China and prosper China even further...😂
The date should be in the title, this is 10 years old
I thought this was a new lecture but it’s a 2014 lecture uploaded in 2024, 10 years after almost to the day. Why? Better late than never? Or especially relevant right now somehow?
Dr. Mearshimer is really great 😃👍👍
Prof Mersheimer is truly brilliant. I rarely miss opportunities to listen to his lectures and interviews.
On one point though, Prof Mersheimer missed out explaining, rather incorporating, "war on terror" or terrorism, in general, into his theory.
Here is how I would consider incorporating "terrorism" into his theory.
1) Terrorism and terrorists will be employed by state actors to serve their interests. U.S. used and funded contra rebels in Central America. Used Osama bin Laden against USSR in Afghanistan. Used military juntas to carry out genocides across the world - Congo, Chile, East Timor.
2) "War on Terror" is a wonderful peg to hang U.S.A.'s never ending quest to produce deadlier and deadlier weapons and use them to "roam around the world".
So, to conclude, "terrorism" is used as a supplement to further the state actor's goals of being a regional hegemon. And, in the case of U.S.A., to extend those hegemonic designs to the entire world.
The answer about hot spot leading to great power conflict didn't age gracefully.
To think the students following this lecture, once they get to power, will pursue the very same polycies driven by the current leaders . There is no hope.
On starting to lay out his theory , he says we are not sure of future behavior of China ! Whereas we know historically thinking China is among the most peaceful nation in the past 4 to 500 years in the world and even more ! And we know how Today's China how it has reacted to our hegemonic warrior behavior ( of USA ) , when attacking Korea , China stepped in and stopped our complete conquest of Korea in 1952 , then we tried with Vietnam , and got a bloody nose and had to escape and withdraw completely in 1975 after 4 years of intense genocidal bombing and fighting ! Then we tried to get in the backdoor of China from Afghanistan's side , there even after two wars and second lasting over 20 years we had to withdraw abruptly and leaving billions of dollars of war materials and technologies ! So we know now with China , starting to aid Chiang KaySchek we lost , Korea , no success , Vietnam Loss , twice Afghanistan total loss , who , except a crazy person would think that USA against China will win over Taiwan or else ???? No need to theorize here you can look at history and say USA will certainly loose now , deeply in Debt and lots of people in USA against Permanent Wars' doctrine today in 2024 !
Confused about US being the only regional hegemony. Before World War I, wouldn't the British Empire be considered a regional hegemony? Didn't they have a huge presence all around the world? They had a literal hegemony in the Australian continent/ Didn't the British control the Indian subcontinent until after World War 2?
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Why is Reed posting this video today
How old is this lecture?
@@iwanagohome326 this video recorded in 2014
It is even more relevant today. We are using Ukraine, Taiwan, Israel, Myanmar, etc. as proxies.
It would be foolish for Taiwan to trust the US.
I think Dr. Mearsheimer does not read Chinese classic philosophy about how to govern the world: It is not hegemony but Justice, i.e. everyone gets his/her deserved reward based on his / her contribution.
Driving forward by looking in the rearview mirror is a bad idea.
Why should the US be free to roam, but not other regional hegemons? Very one-sided
Why does the rule has to be one country win the other has to lose, instead of all the people in both countries striving towards making the cake bigger, without worriing who has the biggest slice? With time, why do human has to compete on scale of country, when technology is globalized…. So many questions not answered , would appreciate deep dive there
I think the questions are good,but also is china not rising peacefully
hope for peace
Calls each man 'gentleman', and each lady 'woman'...there's no question.
What does support the thesis that the countries are rational actors?
Are never-ending wars rational?
China and Russia might act rationally for the moment...
And what "rationally" even mean?
Do India and China 🇨🇳 have a rational relationship?
How's India's relationship with Pakistan?
ISRAEL?!
If only the collective west would behave rationally!
There are copies of this video with more than twice the views
History shows us that the U.S. approach is doomed to failure.
In the grand scheme of things, 200 years is just a drop in the bucket.
Thiis is a lecture that I will listen till end. There is no such thing as a benevolence hegemon or superpower. It is just stupid to think that they exist.
Regarding China as a global military hegemon, (including audience questions), where is the means for them to do so? China has a primarily littoral defensive focus and totally lack the the internationals bases of the USA or even France of Italy. Ignoring the fact China does not have a history of far-flung colonialism (father only neighboring vassal states), even if China suddenly reversed its historical trajectory of mercantilism not militarism, it simply does not have the focus or bases to mount the "world domination" some people imagine. Please, someone, explain how that would work.
Seems like our own state should be feared.
Smart man
can the empire decline and then collapse peacefully. it is the empire struggles to stay alive moment.
This is a very Western-centric way of thinking about the East.
In the last 50yrs how many military conflicts has China been in; now compare that to the U S.
Panama,Granada, Iran,Iraq,Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Sudan,Liberia,Somalia, Eritrea, Haiti, Georgia, Ukraine, Falkland Islands.
EVERYONE in the world Should Rise peacefully (by C’mon senses)!!
That was exactly what the us did to Japan, to keep their economy flat😅
John has very little knowledge on China, so his opinion on China is meaningless, don’t waste of your time here.
basically he is Sinophobia
Mearsheimer doesn't pretend or try hard that he's an expert of Chinese culture or history. He's basically explain how great power politics operated according to his IR theory
@@garytan9904 nope. He's not
He has no clue on China. He assumes China will behave like a Western country.