How I Would Relearn The Guitar
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- Опубликовано: 29 окт 2018
- In this video I discuss how I would Relearn the Guitar if I Could.
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If you're here because of the title of this video, the answer to your question starts around 05:00. Everything before that is not relevant.
Thanks John Williams btw can you compose some music for my son’s birthday, he loved you in Star Wars thanks John
THANK YOU!!!!!! I really hate irrelevant BS on RUclips
Thanks.
@@Not_what_it_used_to_be Sorry, I'm not that guy. Or the other one (the classical guitarist). I have an extremely common name. In my home town of 100,000 people, two other customers of my bank have the same name. When video rental libraries were a thing, 7 others had the same name. And I can never use my real name as a username in any online system! And if you like the guy who composes music for movies, you should check out the classical guitarist. He's pretty good ;-)
My son is going to cry if he hears this…
The lack of focus in this video lends itself to the reality that learning guitar is literally just about grinding everyday and trying to pick up bits and pieces as you go. There are literally no shortcuts.
Yeah, people try to pretend that the skillset of the guitar is organized in a straight line or at least organized in a linear fashion, like a highway. It's actually like a big 3-D maze with many entry points and many deadends, like a dungeon in a video game.
Very few people actually get to the center of the maze.
I get your point but he never told us where to really strt as a biginner...
@@princenkansah5966 Learn the pentatonic box and some open chords. Then start learning some songs. Everyone starts that way. Realize that the pattern that makes a major scale, like C D E F G A B C, or whole-whole-half-whole-whole-whole-half (all the white keys of the piano) can be started on any note to play a major scale in that key. Same with every scale. If you keep the same notes but start and end on a different note, like on the 2, D, you'll get a different mode, like Dorian with the 2. Natural minor is that pattern off the 6, or all the white keys from A to A. Exploring that helps see the way things connect, and helps learn your frets. Then just learn songs and licks. Split your practice between learning new songs, practicing patterns like scales and arpeggios, and just fucking around freestyle.
The lack of focus lol. You said it
This is the same with any instrument, i play drums and both guitar, my practice is definitely all over the place
Just bought your book. You have inspired me to become a technically proficient guitar player. Love the Why I Love This Song series. It has made me "hear" things from songs I have been listening to for decades. It's like falling in love with those songs all over again. Keep up the good work brother!
Begins at 5:00
Since 90% of guitar is rhythm playing I would concentrate on being a great rhythm player , teaching fills and connecting chords with runs .....and work on groove ...then because you got the groove , lead will be the icing on the cake...just a thought...your videos are one of the best things youtube has to offer thanks for your giving the gift of your knowledge....
I spent my early years working on rhythm. I can say that when I play rhythm it's almost as if some other force is doing it and not me. I can play anything that I want to play with zero effort. A student will ask me what I did and I will have to think pretty hard about it. It's super important to study early. But I would never concentrate on one thing. Work on many things, just be sure to work really well on everything you do. Check out the concept of "interleaved practice". But overall I agree with what you say. Starting lead with fills to go along with rhythm sounds like a legit strategy to me.
@@ChuckHaney this is so accurate, once my hands pick up a groove they just start adding things until it's nice and full.
The melody is in them chords and melody is the basis of soloing.
yes , yes, ........... YES
Danny Strunk Eddie Van Halen said the very same thing in a lesson for beginners in Guitar Player years ago. It always stayed with me.
Finally, I see some who is great actually struggling to learn new things. I'm now inspired once again. Thanks Rick!
It’s interesting you started with learning melodies / picking techniques. I learned from Justin Guitar, and his beginner course focuses on monthly chords, chord progressions, strumming patterns, and simple songs. I did that for about a year before I started the Hal Leonard Complete Guitar Method book, and I realized that I had ignored fundamental techniques.
If I had my time back, I wish I had gotten a teacher, and focused on both rhythm and lead playing techniques simultaneously.
Rick: "How would I relearn guitar?"
Also Rick: "I would shred from scratch"
Economy picking is exactly as it sounds. Its the least (economical) amount of pick movement when moving between strings.
eg- If your last pick movement on a string is a downstroke, you continue with a downstroke motion when starting on the next string.
likewise if your last pick movement on a string is an upstroke, you continue with an upstroke when starting to pick on the next string.
"I would not teach scales" THAT is a mouthful.
Smartest thing I'd ever been told was 'If the A note is in key in a Pentatonic box, then it's in key anywhere on the neck'. Scales are a map on the fretboard but nobody says you can't take the scenic route.
I would have practiced with a metronome. Also I think a loop pedal is a great way to learn improv and harmony. Phrasing is the key to good lead playing. GAGED is an underrated method. I've got a lot of friends who pound out learn tabs and play power chords. I always suggest they learn the major and minor thirds and try to play the triad just to version of the power chords just to kinda take something simple they already know how to but give an ear training exercise on diatonics. Knowledge is good but if it doesn't have heart behind it. The truth is that it takes years of patience and discipline to really learn how to express yourself on an instrument no matter what route you take. It's a journey to wherever you want however far you wanna take it
Hey Rick, thanks so much for this video. Lots of stuff on pentatonic out there but not how to actually use it musically. You’re a fantastic instructor with a very easy to digest delivery. Your channel will be top 3 in no time. Don’t change your approach, please!!!
If I was starting from scratch, I would learn/teach the logic of the construction of a guitar.
A piano seems so logical with all the notes laid out in a row. You can visualise the idea of pitch very easily. But if you start learning guitar from positions, the layout just seems random.
If you learn guitar as if it originated as a single stringed instrument it makes complete sense just as much as a piano does. You get the same linearity and scales make visual sense.
If you then understand that an extra string is added to make it easier to:
a. Shift scale positions and
b. Play 2 notes at once
Then positions seem like a facility and not like a brain twister.
The addition of extra strings then looks like a world of possibility.
Basically my point is that teaching playing guitar from the outset across all 6 strings is ultimately too difficult if you really want to grasp how the instrument works. I suspect it’s why a lot of people give up.
This point is made by Mick Goodrick in his Advancing Guitarist book. But I doubt anyone buys that books until they have been struggling for years in the first place.
Donkertz: I don’t know any books that teach like this. But I would try just playing all the parallel modes of G up and down the G string. Say the notes. Do this on that one string until you don’t have to think what the notes are. Then play all the parallel modes of G on the top E string. Then start linking the 2 strings with two note groups in the key of G. So play G & B or D & F# in different places Then bring in some chromatic notes in G.
If you do this you start using the whole fretboard and learn all the notes in those strings and how the guitar actually works. The worst thing about most teaching methods by positions is that people confine themselves to the first 5 frets and become afraid of the rest of it.
Once you have done that for G scales it will hopefully become obvious that you can do it for all strings & scales and it shows the logic of the guitar, which is that it’s vertical structure across the 6 strings supports the basic horizontal linearity of a stringed instrument. I think it shows you that position playing is restricting mentally and that improvisation is much better done by playing up and down the string and using the other strings to support that work. This is because it is so much easier to understand harmony on the guitar if you do it this way.
Well said Austin. On a single string, all string instruments work the same. 1/2 the length is the octave, 1/3 is the 5th, 1/4 is the 4th, 1/5th is the M3rd etc (then it gets more detailed.) Playing a major scale up and down a single string is the same on a guitar, a mandolin, bass guitar, cello, ukulele, upright bass, violin etc. Then we string hop and do the same thing. Maybe that hop was a P4, or a M3, or a P5, depending on how that instrument is tuned, but up and down a single string, the ratio mapping is all the same regardless of the string length or pitch. Learn that first and we learn real string playing fundamentals that work on all string instruments everywhere. Our finger may have to group differently on larger or smaller spaces, since our hands stay the same (i.e.. upright bass vs guitar), but the ratio mapping is the same.
As someone who plays both the guitar is easier to learn from a point of view of learning every key. Shapes and intervals are probably the most important beginning step. Learning a scale in every shape available to you on the fret board in one key instantly opens that up in every key just by shifting up or down a semi tone. Piano you really have to know your intervals for each scale perfectly so you can play it in every key. More liner yes, more complex also yes
@Don I think what Kitten Katt said is possibly the most useful comment reading back through them now. Irvin Berlin was America's most prolific song writer and he famously could only play in F Sharp, which is the first key I felt comfortable with on the piano, so I can see why. Nail the major scale in one key, you'll know what it should sound like in any key
But remember how you were when you first started learning. If you were like me, you didn't want to spend time understanding the theoretical stuff, you wanted to play chords right away, and to this day I still think trying to learn a song is the best way to start off. Learn the theory after that. I think most guitarists don't *care* how the guitar works, and just want to have fun. Sure, if I had the mindset I have now and could go back to the beginning, I would learn the way you mentioned. But otherwise, music first, theory a bit after. I learned entirely online until I got into music school, so I almost feel like I've seen every teaching style in existence.
Hopefully your son will enjoy learning and playing guitar. I started in 1989 when I was just a kid and although it could be difficult at times (technically and theoretically) I'm glad that I stuck with it. Guitar is worth the journey!
Wow. Real eye opener. Never thought about it that way. Been playing over 35 years and you've given me some thing new to think about, especially for rhythm. Thanks!
if you ever feel like learning the guitar from scratch, try left handed
lord thick nipples bruuuuuuuh 🥴🥴🥴
Great point. Concerning username
thats physical not mentaly relearning, you would still know your scales and all that
I'm left handed
Congratulations.
You might want to skip to 12:00 (might not be accurate). VIDEO EDITED, NO LONGER VALID.
theIpatix Thanks
You're the real MVP
Yeah, this vid needs a trim
I did, then He got sidetracked about economy picking and never got to the point :(
5:00
Would be cool to see a beginner series on all of that. Thank you for this videos! Priceless
You are awesome Rick. I learn something every time watch your videos. I bought your book, and I look forward to immersing myself in it.
You are a true musical treasure...every episode of yours is either informative, inspirational, educational or all 3. 👍
As a 4 decade professional musician (that's also nearly your contemporary) that has been a life-long economy picker I say be careful what you wish for. Alternate picking is like have a metronome on your arm. Two down or upstrokes in a row takes less time and can accumulatively lead to rushing through faster passages. I am extremely fluid and effortless in my economy picking, especially while improvising on the guitar. My body has figured it all out. The problem is that turning economy picking "off" is nearly impossible. I also play mandolin and frequently video myself playing to use for optimizing how I'm playing. I will so naturally and effortlessly use two upstrokes in a row to play across the strings that I don't even notice until my picking is turned around and I'm suddenly out of phase with whatever is the optimal picking motion for some difficult phrase. With the exception of offering some very specialized advantages for "shredder" techniques it brings nothing to phrasing that can't be achieved using a rhythmically reciprocating pick motion. For me, it creates more problems than it solves. I can't change a lifetime of experience but I definitely wish I would have solved "playing faster" by being better at alternate picking than being more efficient.
Think of me as your alternate (or should I say economical) timeline. We are similarly aged. I am also a studio owner and recording engineer/producer. I am a silky smooth economy picker that alternate picks adequately. While I support myself with music you have been much more successful in your profession than I have. Your guitar skills are just fine. I am probably more efficient and therefore a little better(?) but no one cares. Keep making videos. I find many of them enjoyable.
Agree 100%. It's easier to be locked in a groove with alternate picking.
And economical too. You take advantage of the momentum in your wrist to hit the string.
Just be aware that it's easier to change strings if you're doing a pair note pattern.
Damn, Dylan is so lucky to have you as his guitar teacher! That must be amazing to have someone who knows as much as you do and can play as well as you, to be their teacher.
Yeah, no kidding! I never had a teacher and at 56, it's getting pretty tough to learn much less to master the fretboard. At least my midlife crisis wasn't a porsche and a bimbo, I've got few nice guitars now :-)
@Kitten Katt I certainly hope that won't be the case here for Dylan. sadly, my dad was orphaned at 5, but my mom was a music superfan, though you'd never know it by what she'd laid in my path. I went to a giant school, 207 graduated in my class not counting the 150 or so dropouts.
Not even exaggerating, an entire week of "music" class was devoted to a chart of African face types so we'd somehow know what area of Africa people we might know would have come from (we had 2 black students in the school of 2700) I don't understand why we went down that road but in 1977, it was an easy A, sadly. Yet, I never even came close to reading music in 3 semesters much less got to learn an instrument. Fucking suburbs.
At least Dylan has the opportunity to learn if he chooses to. My parents thought the schools should teach me all I needed to know. I think they were surprised I decided to rebel with booze, pot and LSD since my only passion was met with disinterest. Bless their hearts, they were a product of their only experience, but a few bucks a month might have changed the dirt road I ended up going down. Ironically, there was a music teacher less than a mile from my home and I didn't know it until I'd graduated, though talking to my mother years later, she was well known to her. They played pinochle together in a league.
I'm not mad at them, I'm just disappointed they'd never given it a thought, even though I'd begged for the chance to learn music for my entire teenage years. How can a kid ask to go buy albums every week at a mall he hated because it only had one record store make it more obvious? I guess I was too young to make it clear enough. That's on me I guess, I don't think the product of depression era parents would have understood without a protest sign back then.
I tried to do right by my daughter, but she never showed an interest but I tried to encourage her desires, though I lost her 5 years ago. My step kid had a child last year and before she was born, I'd bought her a guitar (make that 3 now since she's been a person), a keyboard and a kid sized drum kit. Whatever she wants, she'll get, no matter the interest, if she wants info on geometry, she'll get it, but she's gonna learn music come hell or high water. She'll learn all the other stuff more effectively just knowing music, It's a fact math is more easily learned with a musical background and I won't let her lose that chance. Why am I saying all this? Because someone else in my shoes might see it and give the gift of music to someone else and hadn't thought about it already :-)
@@Damaged262 Your words resonate with me. My Mother was an orphan so... I get it. Though they were born in the 40s. They tell me all about the depression, or at lest they did when they were alive. Don't be afraid to enjoy yourself, and share some smiles. They seem to appreciate that. Kindly, Jim
we will most assuredly be hearing dylan beato making some great music as an adult...unless of course he turns his back on music and starts making video games or sometthing
@Kitten Katt - There is a good deal of truth to what you say. It happens a lot. I had a friend whose father was a former boxer and all through our childhood he boxed and did very well at amateur level, there was talk of him going pro one day etc., but it turned out he was only really doing it all that time to please his old man. He got to about 16-17 and gave it all up one day, just like that. His Dad was pushy and sadly, he ended up without focus and pissed it all away on beer and drugs and I don't see him anymore. Looking at what happened to him, he probably should have stuck with the boxing but I'll guess he'll never know how it would have turned out.
Rick absolutely love your videos. You are an amazing talent, have a great appreciation of music and a fantastic knowledge of especially rock music. I wish I lived next door to you and could just hang with you and talk and learn music.
This guy's needs no introduction one of the best!! Thanks for the knowledge.
I don’t think the Samson mic is selected as the audio source in the streaming software, I think the audio’s coming from the webcam. When Rick turned down the vocal mic there was no change in the volume of his voice. The first time Pete Thorn streamed with it, he had a setting that he had to adjust as well. I could be wrong, just trying to help.
Beautiful Gretch. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one with a finish that nice.
I'm so glad I stumbled onto your channel.. You have so much knowledge and communicate good for learning. I been watching all your what makes a song great and been looking for a channel like yours... Thanks! 🎸🎶
Combining different types of groupings makes the lead tone of the melody interesting - it really stands out
How would I relearn the guitar? If I were to relearn guitar I would never make my objective "learning guitar" but playing gigs with musicians I respected that were better than me. Gigs motivate you to get better. Gigs expose your weaknesses. I love music. I love it. But, personally, I got caught in a limp circle of fear that pushed me to learn more but never put it out there. I know I am not alone. I LOVE learning but this was never supposed to be a hobby or an academic exercise. We as artists have a role in society that we NEED to fill. Inadequate preparation is no excuse for abdicating our responsibility to deliver. So, young guitarist/musician, gig. A lot. With better musicians. And it is never about a scale or whatever - it is about a song, a tune, a mood, an artistic gesture, a feeling, a journey, a story. Be concerned with that and put it out there. A scale or idea or technique never realized in a performance setting (including recording) within the context of a larger idea that moves the listener is academic practice that marginalizes you and sidetracks you away from your primary role as an Artist Who Enriches Society. Yes, practice, learn it all, but ALWAYS always always put it to use in a real piece of music as soon as you learn it. AND, secondly, record yourself and listen back and see if you sound like you think you sound. Ever hear that Metheny lesson? Playing solidly in time is way more important to the creation of music and flow than we tend to emphasize. I strongly suspect Rick would agree with all of what I am writing - I don't mean to say one thing against Rick - he has generously brought this whole thing to another level far above the next level. I'm just expressing angst and loss from the past and hope for the future - the tools are now available to everyone. Make a dent. Do your thing.
David Fleuchaus well said. I think you put together what everyone that plays for awhile realizes.
Thank You !!!! 'Have become too much of a student and not enough of a performer..Even though I make people smile when I perform.. I have to "make a dent " ...I will.
I want this printed and wallpapering my room.
Then the thing that amazed me is when Rick had Tim Pierce on. They both paid Homage to Marty Scwartz who I have watched for years. So Marty started had Tim on his show now Rick. If you want to see full circle Marty is gigging at Iridium in New York soon. So there is the full circle. I am on the older side and would be like BB sitting in a chair trying to make it through the hour not his great playing. The fact these guys know each seems so great.
This comment was a pleasure to read. Rare indeed. Thanks.
The ramblings and riffings of Rick this should be called
I think the issue we are facing here is he just doesn't edit his live stream videos (like this one). He could edit them and make them more cohesive. When he posts a livestream, they are usually less coherent and more of a sales pitch for his Beato Book. His other "regular videos" are more cohesive.
Yoda plays guitar??
@@espnpokerclub1246 very good at guitar Yoda is
I just purchased the Beato Book, looking forward to checking it out!
After YEARS of strumming with a solid rhythms from my drum line participation I was turned on to Micky Baker books and later discovered the Carl Culpeper 101 techniques for terrifying guitar and playing along with accompanying tracks ordered from the back of downbeat magazines. All that really helped expand my vocabulary and technique. I also dove into the Carcassi method for classical guitar and I'm somewhat satisfied, and probably more so than if I had just struggled along unknowingly. RUclips, years later has really helped hold my interest. That and my electric Bass opportunities in various outfits.
That guitar is a thing of beauty...
What Gretsch model is it?
@@geohaber Thanks! I really wanted to know because it's so breathtaking. Of course, looks aren't everything. I remember seeing a video of some guy playing a bunch of guitars including a Gretsch. The best sounding one was an ugly ass Ernie Ball Music Man xD
@@AvioftheSand it's a streamliner xx
Thought it was 6119....
@@JeremyJames_studio Oooh, you might be right!
I would pay good money to watch you teach Dylan guitar!!!
I'm a beginner guitar player, I know basic chords and a couple scales but I would give anything to watch you teach your son :-)
Hey man, you are a constant inspiration. you have so many ideas and ways to apply them. Very cool.
Rick,Your a breath of fresh air,keep it up brother,your amazing and you help me out quite a bit.
i was just watching to see how long until i got lost in Rick land where the playing just goes off to outer space to me .. took about 5-6 min of playing.. about when he said Eric Johnson i knew it was over
That guitar is astounding!!! Drooling all over
Rick, you are appreciated. You keep on keepin on!
This is great Rick. Tom Hess refers to Directional picking, which is the utilisation of alternate picking and economy picking together. This means you use both all the time.
Here's my take. I am approaching intermediate. Well beyond beginner where I couldn't pick "Ode to Joy" on the top 2 strings. I am seeing a lot of "what I would do if I started over." It's different for everybody. You can't learn without making mistakes, getting stuck and working to figure out how to get better.
Personally, the best advice I've seen? Don't push so hard! It takes a lot less effort than you might think to push the strings down. I've relaxed and can move quicker, my hands aren't locked up and they don't get so tired.
Imagine you thought: Wow! Guitar is cool! I want to learn! I want to be a rock star! And someone said, ok, here's economy picking. Or here are a bunch of scales. Forget music or songs. You'd quit or just go so what you want right?
The technique stuff comes in when you want to play something. I'm 46. As an 18 year old I had NO interest in theory. I've played very little over my life time but now I am REALLY interested in learning theory because then music and guitar playing will makes sense and make me better...and I find it interesting.
As for "always play with people better than you". Not so sure about that either. As a bad guitar player I was ALWAYS in this position and it makes you feel well...stupid. People are SO much farther ahead of you they look like magicians.
What got me back into playing guitar 4 months ago was playing with a beginner drummer. She literally had only had 2 lessons. I could play chords to some songs, next thing I know I'm thinking.... I can do this. I want to learn more.
Sometimes it's nice to be the better player. It builds confidence.
Every journey is different. :)
huge amaount of bla bla regarding your personal life with little actual informational value
@@mopsydaisy Info I got from this :
_Take your time and relax yourself when learning, there is no rush
_Throwing too many technical stuff at someone (or trying to learn too much yourself) who wants to learn or get better can demotivate them instead of encouraging them
(I don't necessarily agree with what he said about "always play with people better than you" because it is beneficial to play with people close to your level if not slightly better, even better if they are friends or relatives since you can exchange advices. Different story for a complete beginner who just started.)
_Playing with other musicians who are not necessarily as good as you can/will boost your confidence
I can understand that you didn't get much information out of this but they are still good advices that can help some people
2 things I learned this weekend that blew my mind. 1) Rick toured with Megadeth 2) Vinny Vincent was a musical composer for Happy Days and Laverne & Shirley
He never toured with Megadeth
@@jerrykhoff9023 How do you know that information?
He is good friends with Marty.
@@tarekwayne9193 How do you know that information?
If true, what does being a friend of someone (Marty) that was hired to play in Dave Mustaine's band(Megadeth) have to do with touring with Dave's band?
Maybe the guy was a guitar tech or in some C level opening band, but he never "toured with Megadeth" as a guitarist.
@@jerrykhoff9023 OK, I thought it was obvious that nobody implied he played with Megadeth. Rick clearly says in the video it was with his own band.
@@tarekwayne9193 Hmmm, I must apologize my lord Tarek, I obviously did not watch this boring video with the extreme concentration you did.
I tuned out after a few seconds and responded to a joke post that you took seriously.
You win Tarek.
Now stop wasting your time with me on this silly post and respond to all of those babes knocking on your door.
Thanks so much for the great advice. I tried that last night -- playing any kind of runs (not necessarily scales) even just little things I made up and altering the numbering patterns. I was coming up with some really interesting things. I did take lessons in the past from my friend/band mate John. Other instructors in the past had always just told me, "You play by ear. I don't know what I can teach you. Just learn these pentatonic scales." And they would send me away after a few lessons. John said it was good that I play by ear, but, he also said, "you need to know WHY things work and HOW they work." And he taught me theory. I can't drive because of a neurological condition, so, I can't take lessons from him anymore. But, I still have my Strat and my Alvarez and continue to play. Creating variations when I'm improvising is probably one of my biggest obstacles. Your suggestion will definitely help with that. John did make a similar suggestion in the past, but, I don't think he phrased it like that. He's a multi-instrumentalist. I think he's more comfortable on drums and keyboards and piano than on guitar, but, he's equally competent on just about anything. He could probably play a fricking bagpipe with just a few lessons. ;-) Now he's just "working and raising kids." Oh well, I'll just continue regardless.
omg I'm buying your book. Thank you so so so much for this video, it really helped clear up a lot of roadblocks in my practice "regimen" or lack thereof haha
Can someone help me out here?
Rick was starting to say that he wouldn't teach a new student the usual scales and stuff - and then went on to demonstrate the stuff his friend in high school showed him and said it helped him move across the fretboard and said "BUT" and then didn't complete that point. He got into explaining economy picking and then onto rhythmic syncopation stuff.
Is that what he meant that he would teach instead of scales? Or is he saying that he would reach rhythmic syncopation along with scales?
Edit:
I think I got it. He probably meant that instead of just learning to play scales up and down in common groupings, he would practice them with odd groupings so that you get used to playing those very scales in more interesting ways, thereby expanding your vocabulary as well.
Rick loves everything music, he gets a little too exuberant and goes off subject... somewhat often. (A lot actually, but don't tell him I said that.)
"I would not teach scales in the way that I learnt them", so HOW would you teach them??? You never told us Rick!
"I would not teach scales ..."
(then proceeds to teach scales)
i think the explanation was that the inter space between "Caged" scales is the way you can navigate much smoothly on the fretoard
Basically not to play them linearly like what 99% of people studying guitar do. It's too easy to be stuck in scale shapes and just play that. You have to play what your hear in your mind
@@DeedeeM3gaDooDoo @@w@,,
Elemy69 okay. Where do I get a guitar that screams?
Got your book. I'm already overwhelmed with some terminology ( tertiary etc) and am new to music on a staff. No worries, will learn as I go.
Thank you for sharing your talents
You inspire me to develop my skills
I will buy your book.
I've been playing for years......... The only thing I would of done different would be do pick up the drums on the side with guitar. I've done that in the last 1 and a half and it's made such a great impact on my playing. And stuck with the jazz lessons back in High school instead of just the Rock, blues , classical I was already doing.
Have them learn all the 'Patterns For Jazz' patterns. If that does't expand things I don't think much will.
I would have kept reading instead of moving to playing by ear only, I picked up the drums later on, lots of fun
If I could go back and start over I think I'd learn classical/flamenco technique and leave the pick behind.
AHK that’s what i’d like to do, but not really sure where to start with it. don’t have the money for lessons atm
Wow of someone had only shown me stuff like this when I was younger. Dazzling!
Thanks. Just spent 4 hours researching and practicing. Figured out the 5 finger patterns for major/minor scales on a linear-tuned ukulele because I couldn't find them listed anywhere. Finally a tool to help me with scales. I hate scales but because of that, I can't solo worth a damn.
If economy picking was the first thing someone wanted to start teaching me, I woulda quit. I was determined to start learning songs ASAP when I started playing
Yeah probably better off that way...I spent about two years going no where trying to learn leads. Now I see rhythm is king. But I guess it makes us all different if we stick it out.
Lol, I never really wanted to learn songs. I know it's weird.
8:52 "When my old band played a tour with Megadeth, I jammed with Marty Friedman every day at the tour" (me like: holy s**t!..)
Great stuff! Been playing some 35 plus years and there’s new stuff here I’ve not ever pondered.
Really useful for the one's (like myself) who are self-thaught guitarists :). Thank you Rick!!!
Gorgeous Gretsch!
Rick, thank you! I have always wondered how I would relearn guitar if I could.
It's taken me years to undo some problematic ideas on which my guitar training was structured upon. I've often felt that if I couldn't alternate pick like Al Di Meola, then I was short-changing myself and was only 'pretending' to be a guitar player.
Now that I teach, I'm facing important decisions that are somewhat scary. Mainly, do I teach how I was "taught", or do I teach outside of how I was taught, and teach what I have "learned".
I have a new student which I've decided to structure his curriculum around fist developing his sense of melody before developing the technique - I hope I'm not going to screw him up, but I do think that developing melody is paramount to the most important part of a musician, and that is developing ears. I think the ears will drive you to improve technique in order to attain what the ear wants to hear.
Great lesson, one of your best! Speaking of five note groupings, here’s a cool concept I picked up from listening to Joe Henderson. Sometimes, (usually at slower tempos) he’ll take a repetitions, or diatonicly predictable five note pattern,- start off playing quintuplets on the beat a few times, then then slow it down into 16th, - so that (melodically) the pattern falls a 16th ahead of the rhythmic pattern, with each repetition. Like | 12345 | 12345 | 1234 | 5123 | 4512 | 3451| 2345| ...
Great job! Nice book, just bought it!
Love this. Really inspired by this one!
I recently found Rick's videos, he inspires me constantly.
Top 10 music channel on RUclips hands down.
Just curious, what are some of the others, in you opinion?
@@sebastiansaller3591 Adam Neely for sure, I'd say! Music is win definetely as well! Paul Davids too. But Rick is my favorite.
Nicki Minaj VEVO official in the top 3 for sure right?
I think you meant to say "Top 1 music channel on RUclips"?
Now I am really curious what channels come anywhere close to this one? Oh! That Daniel Wasson guy would be one.
@@Stylesinner Music is win? Rather music is fail. I hate these self-absorbed shredders that try to make a reality show out of their channel including their stupid girlfriend and private life.
Couldn't resist any longer - finally bought the book.
Im glad I learned fingerpicking from the start! I also just learned tunes first from tab (anyone recall Baxters books?), then by ear, but regret I wasnt exposed to music theory alot earlier, esp if you want to play any Jazz. And Id teach to pick slowly, but definite and clean.
For any intermediate or advanced guitarist looking to understand the mechanics of picking I'd recommend checking out Troy Grady's channel.
Rick does not intend this to be a beginner lesson. It is entitled, "How I Would Relearn the Guitar." Notice that word, Relearn. This advanced, experiential perspective/awareness is invaluable to students/musicians/etc. at all levels. Rick, you are amazing!
Oh please that is a bit generous
6:12 - first specific idea. This seems like basically learning to feel and navigate the fretboard. Not learning this is the reason I don't really play guitar ... spending too much time in the open position. This is a good suggestion.
Great Man. Love that Gretsch too! Thank you for doing this.
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Hammer on + pick down
Hammer on + pick up
Superalternate picking is when you're repeating each note you play.
Left hand right hand alternately
Is that what I was doing? I can never tell lol. I always thought I alternate picked everything. When I play on videos people tell me that I don’t. What’s the deal Jari? Am I an alternate picker or do I have some hybrid in there?
@@RickBeato There's some hybrid in there. Pure economy picking is when you never play legato. Mini sweeps, usually 2-3 strings in economy picking, but not a note is missed w/pick.
I find it helpful to think of sweeping as what you do with 3 or more strings and economy picking as "picking in the direction of travel" which is what you do in sweep picking, but if you isolate the concept of string change say from one string to the next (4th string downstroke to 3rd string downstroke) it helps to differentiate the two, even though they are basically the same thing. So even though sweeping is economy picking, think of sweeping as 3 strings or more, think of economy picking as using the same picking direction to change strings.
Sweep picking! - what do you think of? Yngwie arpeggios, for example. "Economy picking" was coined to exemplify its use for string changing, so even though they are the same, think of "economy picking" as a economical way to change strings.
Would be interested in a "Learning with Dylan" series from you, as in live-streaming the lesson if you're comfortable with that.
@Kitten Katt Thanks for your opinion... you should come with me to the doctor when I explain I don't want some statins prescribed because of side effects. Otherwise, let Prof. Beato run his show.
Wtf. They're floating a suggestion forward. Even if you're right, let the suggestion be rejected rather than attacking the person passing ideas around. Don't be rude.
@Kitten Katt "Now, to your comment. Could you have started the comment without the "WTF" and still got your point across?"
-couldn't you just have taken your lick without needing to critique it?
@Kitten Katt you do have a lot to say...
Hi Rick, don't do it and let Dylan develop as a normal kid.
Hey Rick, good for you teaching your son to play guitar right handed! I'm left-handed but have been playing right handed for 25 years. I almost learned the lefty way but a guitar salesman at a random store advised against it and I trusted him because he was left handed also. I've been asked to sit-in 1000 times at random shows and never could do it if I played left handed unless I carried a guitar in my back pocket! Also, I'd say lefties have an slight advantage because most of the complex stuff is happened on the left hand anyhow. Fingerstyle or banjo might be a different story. 😉
So I know I'm a bit late here. But you are absolutely spot on with teaching Dylan both economy and alternate picking. What you want to do is also to teach him to go seamlessly between them as needed intuitively. And also one note per string alternate picked arpeggios. Yes it's more effective to use a sweep, but the control you get over the tone, accents and phrasing from alternate picking is hugely important. Like what Steve Morse does. I recommend you watch Troy Grady here on RUclips. Boy I wish I had those videos when learning all this stuff. Good luck to you and Dylan. I wish you all the best! ✌
Cool, Beato playing the Gretsch :)
Four days later, the Tears For Fears ratio is 4,714 thumbs up to 24 down, which is off the charts astounding...and "Yes," that has to be because TFF is amazing. Been my second fave band for over 30 years, including front row seats once. Thanks for that video, it was as awesome as the song itself. Not sure I've ever seen a like/dislike ratio with that much of a disparity, ever.
Love love TFF. I’ve seen them several times. On my top 5
one of the best channels on you tube thanks rick
I went down the economy picking path for a good bit of time after coming to it on my own when starting out. It made plenty of sense to me at the time during the late 80's and into the 90's. I woke up to it one day and figured out all I was doing was playing a million miles an hour with no real sense of rhythmic phrasing. Once I came to that, it was like relearning the guitar all over in order to break the bad habits. The relearning was an attempt to become more of a musician than a guitar player. ...So... If I was to learn guitar/music all over again, I would do it in this order of importance - Rhythm - basic chord progressions - melodies/ear training - and then tie it together with scales/modes. Notes without rhythm is just random noise. Melodies only happen because of chordal progression that take place in time (rhythm). Scales and modes are not very useful without a strong feel for rhythm, chords, and melodies. ...To come full circle, I have to disagree with starting off using a picking style that doesn't flow with rhythm and hammer it into you.
Here's me teaching guitar: "Here's a book of tablature. Go nuts."
At 56, I think my experience with the instrument is pretty typical of a lot of guys from my generation. Basically, picked-up the instrument as a teen with no musical ambition beyond having fun with a few friends and getting laid, if possible. Haphazardly learned bits and pieces of a few popular songs with open chords, Fmaj and Bmin barrée shapes and never followed through beyond that, probably because I couldn't keep time. Repeat, in my twenties, thirties and forties, for a few weeks/months each time. Two years ago, I decided to give it another try and my breakthrough moment was when, in desperation, I simply muted all strings with my chord-hand and just strummed along 'till I finally "got it": an inkling of the "physical-intuitive" understanding of rhythm-meter-accenting-dynamics on my shitty acoustic guitar...That was the watershed moment. After that, I could simply and surprizingly quickly learn many, many, popular songs from RUclips covers, rather than tutorials. Eventually got into music theory, which I came to love, jazz guitar which blew my kind, travis picking and alternate tunings which opened-up lots of possibilities. All because I changed my focus from the chord-hand to the "strumming and picking hand". Great video, as always.
I didn't get past the learning songs from tab thing until I really wanted to start playing jazz. Throughout my teens and twenties I knew barre chords and could name the C, G, and D barre chords but none of the others. I never even memorized the names of the strings! I only knew the high and low E, but I could play surprisingly well and did great in a band. Jazz led me to music theory and I absolutely fell in love with it. Needless to say, throughout my 30's I have corrected everything and also read real sheet music and never mess with tab. I will be turning 39 soon and I still have a craving to study more. I was surprised that I enjoy studying theory as much as actually playing.
"an inkling of the "physical-intuitive" understanding of rhythm-meter-accenting-dynamics"
what?
Your playing becomes more magical and amazing when the video and audio are not syncopated.
Interesting thought. I was actually wondering this the other day.
If I was starting from scratch I would learn to play right handed. Left handed is pretty much an uphill battle if you want a quality instrument. I would love to walk int a store and have a selection of instruments to choose from and try before I buy.
Check out DHR Music in Cincinnati. They specialize in Lefty guitars. Quality stuff.
Richard my point is I would have to drive by literally 100’s of music stores and 1000’s of guitars to get to that one store.
Only to play right handed guitars? lol
I'll just go back to Justin Guitar where I belong...
Approved Workman .....Justin Beiber?? .....Or Justin Timberlake??? ......or Just-in Time?? Since “Approved Workman are not ashamed...(well I’m not sure if you would be ashamed of Justin Beiber)..
Stick around love enough you'll start to resonate
LOL -- I hear ya!
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Learn from everyone.
I just LOVE that guitar!
This is some hardcore lessons! Thanks Rick!!
No one in particular: ‘Rick, how many guitars you got?’
Beato: ‘Yes’
Rick: "Let me grab my acoustic guitar"
*grabs a semi-hollowbody electric guitar*
Lol love ya Rick!
I stumbled upon rick by chance. He likes all the music I do-and he's a fucking music genius. It makes me feel cool
I love Tears for Fears as much as you do, Rick. Used to listen to their music 25 years ago, all day long, as a uni student. I still listen to their music today, every day. Everybody Wants to Rule the World is still top in my Shave and Shower playlist. Can’t get enough of it.
Introduced from watching Rhett, You Sir are a pleasure. Me at 60 I am starting from Zero..........so I'm good..........
good luck man!)
Same here @zazoomatt!
I would love to see a video with this title that's much more focused without so many tangents and Chat room interaction.
It's very difficult to get into when there's so many references to topics and conversations that began outside the timeline of this video.
you are doing a good job for the music sake, thank you
Yo Rick! Just want to say thanks so much for all the amazing content and continued sharing of your knowledge of music, it's very much appreciated! I too, as are others here judging by some of the comments, here to see how you would re-learn guitar from scratch. All due respect, but you lost me pretty quick. Could you please clarify a few pointers or perhaps sign-post to a previous video? I can play some basic and some extended chords and have picked up a number of things naturally over the years, but am eager to work out the chords of my own songs on the instrument and be able to find my way around the fretboard as well as eventually being able to write on the
guitar. With the title of the vid I was hoping for a more step by step/systematic beginners guide type approach. Even stuff like how you hold the pick and maybe scales, arpeggios of scales and how they relate would be really useful! Thanks a gain for all the great content and I hope my comment helps you/others in some way! All the best, J
People aren't real good at holding conversations while playing guitar
B B King could not sing and play at the same time.
@@charleswilson2134 I just busted a fat laugh. It all makes sense now
@@welcometothejazz Thnx, Tristan. At the other end of the scale ( no pun intended) are artists such as Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull) who can sing the notes as they are playing them ("Nothing is Easy", for ex.). Another example of "You can or you can't".
@@charleswilson2134 And the singer of Megadeth. The guy that played in Metallica. Don't remember his name but I've seen him play while singing and those are crazy riffs to sing on top of, let me tell you.
@@charleswilson2134 The thing about Ian is that he can hear it all - all the parts. Uniquely gifted dude, who was going to be a painter - he'd probably be amazing at that too
How I would learn from scratch: do some complicated-ass picking patterns and note groupings...
I think we forget what it's like to learn this instrument from *scratch*. These are all intermediate techniques.
hmm not really, i literally learned this techniques like on the first month, i went to a guitar school with a very very good teacher that made his own method of learning, he actually taught me Economy picking, alternate picking and pentatonic scale the first month, he divided techniques in "Subjects" so i had a quadraphonics subject where i would learn a lot of different ways to do quadraphonics like the first one was just 1 2 3 4 with alternate picking, i had a "licks" subject where i would learn how to bend and other stuff like that, i had a chords one where you know it was just normal chords but with different rhythms and or picking, note groupings came actually the second month, so i could "enjoy" the scales i was learning, it was a very hard school and we had individual classes, i dropped the second year for some family issues but "his method" actually worked like a lot a lot i was able to play super fast and super clean everything i wanted, he made me realize that the guitar was a constant job of working very hard and consistency and many of the people that i worship they just practiced a lot to become what they are, btw i started to learn Music Theory on the second year, super weird because on all of the other guitar schools i went they started with music theory the first month, my teacher said it was because that way you get a better understanding of the Music Theory because you already have burnt into your brain the theory by playing scales and note groupings chords and other stuff fora year, he said that you dont learn grammar to learn to speak, you learn to speak first then you learn grammar i really miss that teacher he was so good
Not everyone starts right away with a teacher or even has time to do it after work. So usually the majority, in my opinion, will just start with some very basic three chords strumming.
If you are really committed you will start recognizing your slow chords as "music" after a month. I really struggled a long time just learning basic chords for at least two months. The strumming will also be very basic, just up down up down. So i was miles away for something like economy picking and scale patterns.
Small hint: your comment is really hard to read since its a long block without inter punctuation and so on. No mean to offend you :)
@@danieltsss Yeah, starting with chords & pentatonics instead of music theory is one thing, but jumping right into "odd groupings that reverse the accents to emulate what Eric freakin Johnson does" is an entirely different ballgame that is just gonna confuse the hell out of any beginner. If I were to relearn how to drive from scratch, I wouldn't start with driving in reverse. It's like a Little League coach teaching you how to play baseball by starting with stealing second base. Learning how to cook from scratch? Start with boeuf bourguignon! Learning how to juggle? Better start with 6 balls... 2 balls is too basic and I already know how to do that.
Rick does GREAT videos. But he also gets off track a lot. … a lot... and starts noodling instead of doing what he said he was going to do. (I'm not a hater Rick, honest!) But, it's exuberance! He is really into everything music, that's why we love his channel. Another thing to understand is, once you start making videos on youtube, you have to keep that train rolling or you will start to lose followers. It has to be really hard to keep coming up with new ideas. This is why many youtubers will stream, then repost it. Or record long off-the-top-of-their-heads videos. In conclusion, I love Rick's channel, but I think he should have a que-card in front of him with the title of the video, or the main subject printed on it. "How I Would Relearn The Guitar" written down under the camera for example, might keep him from straying into intermediate and advanced realms.
@@damperoar Not every one can be a rock star but don't let it keep you from enjoying the guitar.
One of my all-time fave solos is Tornado Of Souls. Sooo much feeling & emotion. Imho Marty is the best guitarist Megadeth have ever had, & Nick Menza on Drums (the Classic lineup). I love the exotic flavour to his playing.
I also love the Egyptian/Middle Eastern influence that Nile extensively use.
I've just been looking for Metal Violin songs, I think I want a Violin one of these days, & I need a keyboard to play with too. Guitars, I have a few of, & an e-kit plus 2 acoustic drum kits.
I love music, & creating it.
Bought Beato book. Had it printed. Currently watching this while waiting for it to be bound!
This is the first time I've ever been tempted to give Rick a thumbs down. Rick, dude, beginners can't begin to relate to what you're doing here.
But he simply posed an interesting question; how he would relearn the guitarif he had it to do over, and he seems to mean it more broadly, because he talks a lot about not how he would approach it as a beginner, but as a teacher of a beginner.
He didn't call this a lesson for beginners, but I'm not entirely convinced that no beginner could relate anyway. I had a friend who wasn't even a guitarist, but found some technical guitar discussions quite interesting, because even though he couldn't understand it all, he is a curious and open minded person.
Some beginners I believe could relate, not that they can just start playing his ideas right away, but as an interesting preview of what they might achieve if they work towards it, I don't see a problem with some of them finding value in it; not so much as a lesson, but more of a clinic. I went to some of those that were way above my head at the time, but still they were inspiring.
@@Gregorypeckory You're probably right. I'd never give Rick a thumbs down anyway. This non-player got out of this video; just how ridiculously talented Rick is. I just watch in awe all of the "What made this song..." videos, and thoroughly enjoy what these geniuses were really doing with their music.
@@vote4pedro7 That's cool that you watch his videos; I can see how a non-player that is an avid listener would enjoy the "what makes this song great" videos. He does a great job of providing the insights from a deep dive into songs many have loved for decades!
@@Gregorypeckory Yeah, I'm a non-player but a guitar wanna-be
@@Gregorypeckory your friend likely already had some experience with another musical instrument no pure beginner would have the slightest idea wtf is going on here.
imagine had the video starting at 16:50
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Hahahaha you’ve killed me
Rick you are such a great player, I'd would be great if you would make a vid on 'learning all 12 keys' on guitar !! how to - why - dos & don'ts . Peace