I watched your video earlier today and had to return back to drop this comment. I have p44 and like the clipper but have been reaching for other clippers recently. P44 did EXACTLY as I needed it to do to make that 808 pop on a mix I just finished. I understand that clipping in general will get it there but I really gelled with the p44 today. Going to start implementing it on my 808’s and synth basses. I was struggling with getting the low end to translate on a mix yesterday so to have solved that with something I already had, Ima happy camper. You’ve got me to subscribe!!
Great video. Thank you. P44 Magnum got an update and now it features a knee control for soft clipping. You can get new coloration and clipper action out of P44. When using clipper on low frequency content, it's important to listen very closely and have the level compensated for the evaluation. Adding distortion to the low end affects the punch - reduces it, hence finding a good sweetspot is essential. Enjoy Magnum. 🎉
Brilliant video! I'm embarrassed to say, music is my job, but I've never ever used a clipper in my life. You have removed so much guess work for me. Thank you!
To this day, this workflow template you advised was an actual turning point in my journey - plus, I don’t trust anyone else to master my music but you.
@@DL-1 it’s in the video. The way I have my groups/busses set up & also my use of clipping. I could do a more I depth video on this in the future if more people want it?
@alexemusic my bad. I asked the question before I saw the answer in the video. But it's super cool that you took the time to answer the question. Have a good day my brother.
Absolute Gem of a video. First time Ive bought a plugin before the video even came to its conclusion 😂. To add the mix breakdown 🙏 🙏 🙏 that is some secret sauce u blessed us with. Powerful content.
Ngl when I first heard the bass line I was like.. what the hell?? Then I heard the beat and was like yoooo that shit's FIRE! Also great explanation of clipping! Keep it up 🙌🏻
Haha that’s the thing I love most about production. 😂 Individually: “what’s the hell is this” Collectively: “Ohhhhh” 😂😂😂 Glad you stuck around and trusted the process!
P44 is dope! I love how you set up your sub groups. I set up my sub groups similar. Lately I’ve been using knock from Decap on my drum bus to dial in my transients. P44 on my all drums. The Jason Joshua NLS trick on drums is a cheat code too. Your track is Fire! Appreciate you sharing the jewels you dropped.
Thanks bro. And yeah the P44 was so good for me that I just had to share it! Decap plugin is powerful also. I don’t use it as much but that’s only because I already had things that did each of those processes well. Jaycen Joshua is a great one! I don’t use much waves though since they did that subscription only nonsense a while back. I lost a lot of trust
@@WhoIsAlexElliott I understand. I caught the NLS on the Christmas Sale for $29 US. I don’t have the subscription but I use waves studio verse and swap out comparable plugins I have with the signal chains they have listed for studio Rack. I’m on multiple DAWS so studio rack has been helpful in being consistent across platforms. Logic is Dope and very good in recording and mixing. I produce in FL studio and MPC Beats as a VST for the MPCx, but I mix and record vox in Luna. Switched from tracking and mixing in Protools because I’m fed up with subscriptions. If my razor laptop plays out I’m going to switch back to a Mac and get back to using logic again.
@@WhoIsAlexElliott sound-wise yes. The audio engine is bananas. I don’t think it will be a goto production DAW for people who like their current DAW., but great for mixing and summing. I have an Apollo interface so I had to give it shot and it’s the closest thing I’ve heard to a console. Still a bit buggy in Windows but it’s in beta.
@@kuandemarco5498 Awesome Im going to try carve out time to have a play. I didn't like that it was locked into Pro Tools key commands and couldn't get used to that but will give anoher try
Cool video, I agree thatmany times depending of the material is best to have the kick drum out of thedrum bus..... but this is my 2Cents, Clipping is a new technique, and mixing engineers in the past and today achieve great mixes with amazing lowend without Clipping anything, so even tho this can be a cool technique, I do not think is the secret or Holy grail to achieve a great low end, and actually if you are able to achieve a great lowend without clipping, most likely for you will be even better if in top of that you apply your clipping technique....
Wow! This just leveled up my Mix game! Thank you soooo much! I just liked and subscribed! Keep up the good work! This is a real Game Changer for me and so many others!
Never thought about removing the kick from the drum bus or bussing it with the bass! Yet I always mess with the kick and the bass at the same time, and often I am trying to SC the kick out the drum Buss compressor! Good video!!
Ahh thankyou bro. I have a playlist where I’ll be uploading a beat a week also. Check it out. ruclips.net/p/PL2vikPEql4ZqswJ-Amjr_xV0d5r66Rl5u&feature=shared
It has soft clipping now? An adjustable knee, to get more flavors? Have you also experimented with transient designers to shorten the waveforms and tighten up the bass, as well? Especially on faster material... Keeping the attack and shortening the rest....
Nice. I guess this kinda lends to the track you have already having a kinda square wave base. If you had like a pure sine sub I expect it'd start to turn your sub into more of a square wave base if it's pushed too far. All in moderation though I guess! Awesome tut! Subbed. Also that tune's a banger mate.
Great observation. And it actually works really well with sine wave subs also as it gives them subtitle upper harmonics allowing them to be audible on bass challenged speakers. Give it a try and let know 👌👌. You can demo the plug in for 30 days
I’m going to try bussing my bass and kick separately, I never thought of that, I always bussed the drums together. Getting the low end in hip-hop seems like the biggest secret ever, it ruins any track if you can’t get it. Thanks.
I use the Fabfilter Saturn 2 to achieve this. I'm very interested in the P44. been looking it. Used a simular technique to drop my latest Afro-Beat / Jazz Instrumental Single
Mixing low end is pretty easy when you get the hang of it. Use a REDDI DI emulator, Kazrog True Iron and a multiband compressor on your bass track. Also, high pass your kick, there's so much shit you don't need.
For me the P44 is doing it. Because it offers way more extra stuff. However I’d highly recommend doing a shootout. Get both demos and let me know your thoughts. I’ll pin your comment response. 👌👊
My trial is over few weeks ago, so unfortunately cant compare) I testing orange clip now, it is overpriced too, but sounds cool I cliped 8 db on 2bus and wanted to push more, but I think it more for trap/drill @@WhoIsAlexElliott
@@definty I used to use that yeah. Then switched to gold clip. Then switched to P44. Ash is cool for mastering, it remains clean no matter how hard you push it. Gold clip retains more low end than ash however. Then P44 is just a whole different beast because it’s also a saturator / Eq so not a direct comparison to Ash. If I wanted just clean volume gain then Ash and Gold clip are great.
Oomph is not showing a hi pass in the curve. Seems like oomph and poomph is the same, only tü frequency is different. Brainworx V3EQ is doing that, too. Also basically every Pultec Style EQ.
To further explain he said. “Updated Oomph and Poomph circuit update to preserve the transients of the original signal” I’m guessing he did this by no longer having the hi pass filter and just having the peak at the frequency. Prior to this it was a high pass filter with a resonant peak at the cut off frequency 👌.
salute, I don’t quite understand how to use it as a limiter.. I have a -4db drum group, it hits and there is no distortion.. how much should I set on the magnum clipper? I set it to -6, -8 and the sound crumbles a lot
@@WhoIsAlexElliott all the drum loops are on the drum group.. and at -4db they work perfectly.. then I hang a magnum there and select clipping -6db for example and the drum part crumbles..
@@tylergameplayroom ok so two things. 1.The solution: Turn the level of the drums going into the drum bus down (Do this Pre fader, clip gain the region, or add a gain plug in prior to the P44). Then after that use the P44 & turn up the input drive and saturation knob to taste. Also make sure the oversampling is set to “HD” (it’s in the bottom left area, are called “OS”). 2.The Possible Problem: The most important & often overlooked point in the video is taking the kick drum out of the drum bus. If your using drum loops with the kick drum in it then this will be more challenging to mix in general because you don’t have the same control as you would mixing individual drum parts. This is because a kick drum has much more power & low end energy than the snare, hi hats or percussion. It will drive any saturation or clipper to distort much quicker. Which is why I take the kick drum out of my drum bus & instead add it to a Kick and Bass bus. 👌
I watched your video earlier today and had to return back to drop this comment. I have p44 and like the clipper but have been reaching for other clippers recently. P44 did EXACTLY as I needed it to do to make that 808 pop on a mix I just finished.
I understand that clipping in general will get it there but I really gelled with the p44 today. Going to start implementing it on my 808’s and synth basses.
I was struggling with getting the low end to translate on a mix yesterday so to have solved that with something I already had, Ima happy camper.
You’ve got me to subscribe!!
Amazing glad you’ve found it as helpful as I have 🙌🙌🙌. And I’m glad to have you as part of the community
Great video. Thank you. P44 Magnum got an update and now it features a knee control for soft clipping. You can get new coloration and clipper action out of P44.
When using clipper on low frequency content, it's important to listen very closely and have the level compensated for the evaluation. Adding distortion to the low end affects the punch - reduces it, hence finding a good sweetspot is essential. Enjoy Magnum. 🎉
Favourite plug in just got even better 🔥🔥🔥🔥.
Brilliant video! I'm embarrassed to say, music is my job, but I've never ever used a clipper in my life. You have removed so much guess work for me. Thank you!
No worries at all. I was producing for 15 years before I even realised what it was 😂😂😂😂. Glad the video helped!
To this day, this workflow template you advised was an actual turning point in my journey - plus, I don’t trust anyone else to master my music but you.
Love my bro. Haha you was only person I had shared this with up until this point 😂
@alexemusic what was the workflow template?
@@DL-1 it’s in the video. The way I have my groups/busses set up & also my use of clipping. I could do a more I depth video on this in the future if more people want it?
@alexemusic my bad. I asked the question before I saw the answer in the video. But it's super cool that you took the time to answer the question. Have a good day my brother.
@@DL-1 you too bro. Stop by and drop me a question anytime
Thanks for this!🙏🏻 I was struggling with my low end, I’ll try to take the kick out of the drum bus and process it
This really works for me so hopefully it does work for you. Please let me know if it does ❤
Absolute Gem of a video. First time Ive bought a plugin before the video even came to its conclusion 😂. To add the mix breakdown 🙏 🙏 🙏 that is some secret sauce u blessed us with. Powerful content.
Glad it helped brother! 🙌
okaaay, you're the cleanest channel on youtube
Ayeee thankyou 😂🙌
Ngl when I first heard the bass line I was like.. what the hell?? Then I heard the beat and was like yoooo that shit's FIRE! Also great explanation of clipping! Keep it up 🙌🏻
Haha that’s the thing I love most about production. 😂
Individually: “what’s the hell is this”
Collectively: “Ohhhhh”
😂😂😂
Glad you stuck around and trusted the process!
You built for this mybbro , not a better video and better explanation out there on RUclips. Proud of you broski, keep pushing 🔥💣🌋✊🏾🙌🏾👏🏾
Thanks my bro!
Greetings! I just found your channel and i just bought the p44 based on this video. and i love it. im sure that banging track helped😁 thanks!
Glad you found the video helpful. And hopefully I will keep providing valuable content for you! Thanks for stopping by
Thank you very much for showing this P44. I will grab it the next time when they have sale :)
Hope you enjoy it!
P44 is dope! I love how you set up your sub groups. I set up my sub groups similar. Lately I’ve been using knock from Decap on my drum bus to dial in my transients. P44 on my all drums. The Jason Joshua NLS trick on drums is a cheat code too. Your track is Fire! Appreciate you sharing the jewels you dropped.
Thanks bro. And yeah the P44 was so good for me that I just had to share it! Decap plugin is powerful also. I don’t use it as much but that’s only because I already had things that did each of those processes well. Jaycen Joshua is a great one! I don’t use much waves though since they did that subscription only nonsense a while back. I lost a lot of trust
@@WhoIsAlexElliott I understand. I caught the NLS on the Christmas Sale for $29 US. I don’t have the subscription but I use waves studio verse and swap out comparable plugins I have with the signal chains they have listed for studio Rack. I’m on multiple DAWS so studio rack has been helpful in being consistent across platforms. Logic is Dope and very good in recording and mixing. I produce in FL studio and MPC Beats as a VST for the MPCx, but I mix and record vox in Luna. Switched from tracking and mixing in Protools because I’m fed up with subscriptions. If my razor laptop plays out I’m going to switch back to a Mac and get back to using logic again.
Sooo many people are mentioning Luna has it really gotten that good? When I used it when it first came out I didn’t really get along with it
@@WhoIsAlexElliott sound-wise yes. The audio engine is bananas. I don’t think it will be a goto production DAW for people who like their current DAW., but great for mixing and summing. I have an Apollo interface so I had to give it shot and it’s the closest thing I’ve heard to a console. Still a bit buggy in Windows but it’s in beta.
@@kuandemarco5498 Awesome Im going to try carve out time to have a play. I didn't like that it was locked into Pro Tools key commands and couldn't get used to that but will give anoher try
Cool video, I agree thatmany times depending of the material is best to have the kick drum out of thedrum bus..... but this is my 2Cents, Clipping is a new technique, and mixing engineers in the past and today achieve great mixes with amazing lowend without Clipping anything, so even tho this can be a cool technique, I do not think is the secret or Holy grail to achieve a great low end, and actually if you are able to achieve a great lowend without clipping, most likely for you will be even better if in top of that you apply your clipping technique....
Thankyou for sharing. That’s the great thing with music we all have different ways to get results. This is simply mine 👌.
Thanks for the review, I learn't a lot of great stuff, and you present it so well !
Ahh I’m glad something helped
Wow! This just leveled up my Mix game! Thank you soooo much! I just liked and subscribed! Keep up the good work! This is a real Game Changer for me and so many others!
Glad it helped. Will try to continue to share things that help me in the hope it also helps others.
Great info, thanks!
No problem 👌
Thank You for demonstrating your process
Anytime. Will try to keep sharing stuff that works for me
Never thought about removing the kick from the drum bus or bussing it with the bass! Yet I always mess with the kick and the bass at the same time, and often I am trying to SC the kick out the drum Buss compressor! Good video!!
Let me know how you get on with it! Works for me, hopefully it works for you also!
Nicely done
Thankyou
Subbed. Love your content bro.
Thankyou and glad to have you on the channel! 🙌
Beastly Sound Bro! The clipping giving you more punch while saving you headroom!
Defo. I spent first 13 years not knowing anything about clipping but soon as I found out it was a game changer!
Amzing! Havent thought of it beforee thanks!!
Glad the content is useful bro!
Super helpful bro! Gonna cop!
You won’t regret it!
couldn't concentrate on the tutorial cause your beats are fire bro!
Ahh thankyou bro. I have a playlist where I’ll be uploading a beat a week also. Check it out.
ruclips.net/p/PL2vikPEql4ZqswJ-Amjr_xV0d5r66Rl5u&feature=shared
SirAudio Standard Clip has me covered
👍
Beat is fire
Thankyou!
Fock, now I gotta buy this dang blasted plug.
😂😂 that’s how I felt after the demo period. I used it on every mix
Eiishhh Alex this is a GEM!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
👊👊
It has soft clipping now? An adjustable knee, to get more flavors? Have you also experimented with transient designers to shorten the waveforms and tighten up the bass, as well? Especially on faster material... Keeping the attack and shortening the rest....
YEAH! 🙌🙌🙌
Nice. I guess this kinda lends to the track you have already having a kinda square wave base. If you had like a pure sine sub I expect it'd start to turn your sub into more of a square wave base if it's pushed too far. All in moderation though I guess! Awesome tut! Subbed. Also that tune's a banger mate.
Great observation. And it actually works really well with sine wave subs also as it gives them subtitle upper harmonics allowing them to be audible on bass challenged speakers. Give it a try and let know 👌👌. You can demo the plug in for 30 days
Good job Bro 👍🏿
Thankyou 👌
I’m going to try bussing my bass and kick separately, I never thought of that, I always bussed the drums together. Getting the low end in hip-hop seems like the biggest secret ever, it ruins any track if you can’t get it. Thanks.
I agree. Low end is king in hiphop. And I’m glad it could be helpful. Let me know how you get on! 🙌
@@WhoIsAlexElliott No doubt, I’ll keep you posted.
This sounds cold I can't lie.
Thanks bro! 👌 it’s a great plug in
Great video and explanations.
Thanks Mike. Glad you stopped by
@@WhoIsAlexElliott You're welcome, keep up the great work.
I use the Fabfilter Saturn 2 to achieve this. I'm very interested in the P44. been looking it. Used a simular technique to drop my latest Afro-Beat / Jazz Instrumental Single
Drop a link to it. Love to have a listen. And Saturn is awsome also!
Pulsar modular give a full 30 day trial so I’d say check it out!
Mixing low end is pretty easy when you get the hang of it. Use a REDDI DI emulator, Kazrog True Iron and a multiband compressor on your bass track. Also, high pass your kick, there's so much shit you don't need.
Agree. And so many ways to do it.
track is cold
Thankyou very much!
Great vid and track! What your opinion about gold clip? It sounds great but price...
For me the P44 is doing it. Because it offers way more extra stuff. However I’d highly recommend doing a shootout. Get both demos and let me know your thoughts. I’ll pin your comment response. 👌👊
My trial is over few weeks ago, so unfortunately cant compare) I testing orange clip now, it is overpriced too, but sounds cool I cliped 8 db on 2bus and wanted to push more, but I think it more for trap/drill @@WhoIsAlexElliott
@@Nick-je8bq no worries leave it with me. I’ll get a video comparing clippers done.
Cool man! Dig your videos a lot!@@WhoIsAlexElliott
You tried the Acusticas converter clipper plugin? Sounds nice
Ash?
@@WhoIsAlexElliott yeah.
@@definty I used to use that yeah. Then switched to gold clip. Then switched to P44. Ash is cool for mastering, it remains clean no matter how hard you push it. Gold clip retains more low end than ash however. Then P44 is just a whole different beast because it’s also a saturator / Eq so not a direct comparison to Ash. If I wanted just clean volume gain then Ash and Gold clip are great.
word demo ever
Think you meant “worst*” sorry you feel that way. Maybe leave some pointers on how it can be better and I’ll see if I can implement 😌
Let’s go
🎉🎉
I wish I had a workflow for producing. I keep changing it to find a faster one but end up taking longer smh
What kind of things have you tried? It’s different for everyone but Im confident you’ll find it.
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Glad it helped bro
@@WhoIsAlexElliott thanks bro, will defo be trying this on my K&B bus :D
the paradox is that what some describe as „i gained 5 db of headroom“ in my mind is translated to „i lost 5 db of dynamic range“. Go figure
😅😅
Oomph is not showing a hi pass in the curve. Seems like oomph and poomph is the same, only tü frequency is different.
Brainworx V3EQ is doing that, too. Also basically every Pultec Style EQ.
He recently updated the plug in after this video was uploaded 👍
Thanks for stopping by and dropping the comment. I’ll pin this so others can be aware of that slight change.
To further explain he said. “Updated Oomph and Poomph circuit update to preserve the transients of the original signal” I’m guessing he did this by no longer having the hi pass filter and just having the peak at the frequency. Prior to this it was a high pass filter with a resonant peak at the cut off frequency 👌.
The hi pass used to be on that slider to the left of the Oomph knob. But now it just adds a bell dip instead
salute, I don’t quite understand how to use it as a limiter..
I have a -4db drum group, it hits and there is no distortion.. how much should I set on the magnum clipper? I set it to -6, -8 and the sound crumbles a lot
Hello 👋. So Just to clarify where do you have the P44 magnum currently? Is it on the drum group? And is your kick drum in the drum group?
@@WhoIsAlexElliott all the drum loops are on the drum group.. and at -4db they work perfectly.. then I hang a magnum there and select clipping -6db for example and the drum part crumbles..
@@tylergameplayroom ok so two things.
1.The solution: Turn the level of the drums going into the drum bus down (Do this Pre fader, clip gain the region, or add a gain plug in prior to the P44). Then after that use the P44 & turn up the input drive and saturation knob to taste. Also make sure the oversampling is set to “HD” (it’s in the bottom left area, are called “OS”).
2.The Possible Problem: The most important & often overlooked point in the video is taking the kick drum out of the drum bus. If your using drum loops with the kick drum in it then this will be more challenging to mix in general because you don’t have the same control as you would mixing individual drum parts.
This is because a kick drum has much more power & low end energy than the snare, hi hats or percussion. It will drive any saturation or clipper to distort much quicker. Which is why I take the kick drum out of my drum bus & instead add it to a Kick and Bass bus. 👌
@@tylergameplayroom each case is unique so if your still having issues let me know and we can troubleshoot together
@@WhoIsAlexElliott thank"s i will try it