if you look on google maps you'll see that a decade ago the growth next to Walenta drive 1260 was all closed and overgrown. A couple years ago it was opened up. Maybe the suspect was hired to cut the bushes and trees and had a clear view of 1122 King road and started fantasizing. Also student homes are usually fixed up inbetween tennants. I doubt the owner of the property did it themselves.
Chris I went on Google Earth & the ONLY place for a car to drive on is the parking lot behind the house. I can screenshot it for you if you have an email.
Hi Chris, I have done the google earth and traveled all around the back roads of the home early December. The road goes up and then splits off up to the left and into a Y. Behind the home, there is a couple houses and then an area of maybe farming, bee keeping, sapping garden etc... I do have something that I want to send to you. How do I do this, so you get it? TY
From Australia here, love your reports. I want to thank God some was willing to investigate that guy un named; he was giving me really bad vibes. His body language was off the charts. You are amazingly quick. Cheers
Just want to welcome you to Idaho. I hope you and your wife are enjoying the beauty of Idaho during your stay here. Thank you for your insight and work.
I'd start by checking the schools parking permit registry. Even if the car is registered to mommy & daddy out of state, they'd still need a school parking permit, unless they're in walking distance of school.
Holy crap. I blew it up and it has the same shape as the Elantra windows which are quite distinct. Has anyone contacted the FBI ? We know criminals often return to the crime scene.
@@dboyd1651. Indeed. I took a really deep look, measured these vehicles the best I could and the comparison is there. I would say again IMHO this is ( S)'s vehicle.
I went back to this video to find out the time this car was spotted to see it it matched up with the ping they showed at around 9:30 the next morning- that was a good catch
My dad is a retired State trooper from Harrisburg, PA (Camp Hill prison) also the dude that killed the school teacher and found her body in the trunk (Jay Smith), they think her two kids are underneath the Marriott, which was being built at the time, across the street at the hotel where Susan’s body was found, lots of other stories. My point is… you talk like him. He’s 83. It’s so weird bc when you kind of take a breath when you’re speaking… you say “you see” and other little mannerisms, you just remind me of how he tells stories…you see… lol❤️TY!
Chris, I watch a lot of channels and you are the absolute best. Anyone else is just barely entertainment but you are amazing you really investigate these cases. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us...I'm soaking it all up!!!
Damn right we will I will keep exercising all of my resources as a Moscow native to find who did this. There's almost 30,000 people here and I probably know at least a third of them
You are an amazing investigator...I'm sure there are some other D's out there that are good too but I just admire such a channel as this also no rubbish talk
I’ve slowed it down and zoomed in, from what I can tell, the body shape of the car is frighteningly close to that of the Elantra police are looking for. Whether this turns into a lead or not, bravo for spotting that in the background! Amazing work!
I've got a question, where do I send the video and image? I ended getting close up of the car (not sure if the quality is any good). I don't use FB and I tried using Instagram but it's telling me I can't send messages. I am not an expert but I did want to help any way I could, thanks in advance if I get an answer.
An interview I saw with a neighbor was ‘interesting’. From second 1 to approx second 36, he stared without 1 single blink. Throughout the interview (still haven’t seen all of it) he had very subtle little smiles (‘tells’?). LE definitely needs to interview him again.
Just a note regarding better viewing of the videos you show that you can pass along to your viewers. I can’t speak to all platforms, but RUclips just recently introduced to iPhones (at least) the ability to zoom in pretty close. It’s very awesome, and I was able to zoom in on the car driving by at completely full screen.
It's nice to know that people have been on the alerts. A suspect was arrested in Pennsylvania who had been within 10 miles of the crime scene. I feel like he's the one.
I love the “to the point” reporting. I love the fact both your wife and you work together. I had questions and your channel answers them and brings out other ideas. I was amazed when you found that glove!
I still think the black Pickup Truck seen in the bodycam footage is significant in one way or another. its headlights are seen exiting the 1122 driveway (i had the footage enhanced) around 17 seconds before it passes the cops on Talor Ave. Wuestion is, is it established what car the apparent Uber driver was driving? The Pickup Truck couldn't be it, it's seen at 3AM (in the bodycam footage) heading eastbound.
Nancy is great. Both of you coming to Salida for Suzanne is/was wonderful. Thank you. Listened to the pod cast 👍 Very interesting you assisting with this Idaho scene. Makes me feel better! God bless you and all of the law enforcement having to deal with such a terrible and sad situation.
@@Notmep I sure wish we knew. The thought of her out there somewhere on that mountain range is a crippling sadness. Except knowing her beautiful soul is that she's in the loving hands of our creator. Sad and sick to think what she had to go through in her last hours. Or minutes 😓
From my time in L.E. It sure fits someone trying to stay close to where and what L.E. Is doing because they can’t quit wondering if they made a mistake and if they are going to be caught. The perpetrator likes to be ahead of L.E. At least think they can anyway.
This comment is for support. Thank you for your work. So far I find your channel one of the most interesting and 'do it correctly' on the youtube. The levels of speculation on youtube is insane.
According to Brian Entin, there are ring cameras back there on that road… right near where he drove by…IF this is the car, I hope they got access to those ring camera footage..
That car actually went up that hill stayed there for maybe 2 mins then came down… ( not sure if you call it a hill…) seems like driver is checking out the area…
Why did the police not set up camera around the house after the murders happened. They could have set them up around house to catch anything suspicious
@@Steve-pb2vm I don't think cruisers have cams that face that way. Usually inside the cabin facing rearward and a dash cam forwards, but nothing that would catch anything behind it, to the side, and upwards, since the car was on a hill. I find it hard to believe that the elantra wasn't caught on any other gas station or other cameras, the person even going inside. Must not be many cams around
Watched the car dozens of times on your video and the original news report, and I think it is an Elantra. The slanted windows are the marker. To me, it says this car is from around the neighborhood. Thanks for your coverage of this case. Amazing.
Chris, video footage of the house on Nov 13th shows no sign of the glove being there. Betcha it belongs to an investigator who wasn't aware it had fallen out of his coat pockets.
Great broadcasts Chris. I’m currently working my way through your back catalogue and it’s unreal how spot on some of your observations and comments have come to be factually accurate. Your channel cuts out the nonsense, avoids the dramatic, and ALWAYS puts the victims and their families. Keep doing what you do, and greetings from the UK 🇬🇧. I love it when you quote Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s Sherlock Holmes character! I guess that’s the Brit in me lol 👍
Oh wow. Just watched Lauren’s interview with that guy. Red flags all over the place. She did a great job. She just let him talk and he wants to. Hes number one in my book
I just did too... and I'm with you... his giving them a bottle of wine story gave me the creeps of rejection...it didn't even make sense on how he told it... he was changing what really happened into what he wanted to happen... something is very wrong with him...
Blown away by this footage of the Elantra not only going down the hill, but, back up the hill. 😮The possibility of the perp returning /casing the scene is real. Wonder why? Is it a thrill for them to revisit crime scene or?
I know there is at least one person (besides the perpetrator) who knows who did this. I know there are several people who have information that could lead to a conviction. For whatever reason they are doubting themselves, I don’t know. Maybe they are scared. Maybe they don’t trust police because of experiences in their past. Whatever is holding you back must feel like shackles - set yourself free. Talk to the FBI. They will give you protection!!
@ Chris & Karen.This footage of this car has been online for over 2 days,, Sweetie pie lo Showed it going in both directions..It's a No Through Road up the top..& nowhere to go.. Its is basically at the back of the house...Thank you for an Amazing show as always...
I think with the media and public frenzy over this case, the perp will find it almost irresistible to not try and soak up some of the attention. I found the recent neighbor interview interesting too. Not so much because of their demeanor, but rather things they have done regarding their social media. Editing, and re-editing post.
It just seems too convenient that he could recognize car models when the light was out on that end of the street. Though I guess his own headlights might be the answer. But I would definitely want to know all of that.
What bothers me a bit about that neighbor is that if I'm not mistaken two days after the murders he wrote a post what happened and he said nobody heard anything and then edited that post, that is two days later he didn't hear anything and now he does.
I saw a gal post, saying she lives next door , was home with her baby didnt hear a thing. Most of her neighbors had left area after murders , and she was still there , and not to worried due to police presence still at the victims home.
I hope this comment gets to you. I don't know anything about the podcast or what happened but I am listening. I was an investigator for years. One thing you can do to make you credible is not disparage other podcasts. If they are not honest God will handle that. And, saying you are embedded makes me wonder how much real time information you can share. Thank you. I am going to listen now. You seem really skilled in this area. Love Nancy Grace.
Hello Chris, Karen, Dylan and Buddy. Thank you for covering this devastating case as you always do. I always love hearing your perception and your knowledge. Prayers for answers soon 🙏🏻
Level Headed TY for that catch as well! Sorry I missed your earlier comment.
if you look on google maps you'll see that a decade ago the growth next to Walenta drive 1260 was all closed and overgrown.
A couple years ago it was opened up.
Maybe the suspect was hired to cut the bushes and trees and had a clear view of 1122 King road and started fantasizing.
Also student homes are usually fixed up inbetween tennants.
I doubt the owner of the property did it themselves.
Chris I went on Google Earth & the ONLY place for a car to drive on is the parking lot behind the house. I can screenshot it for you if you have an email.
@@MartinMartin-bh4ke, right now, everything is possible. Is it probable? ...might...
Hi Chris, I have done the google earth and traveled all around the back roads of the home early December. The road goes up and then splits off up to the left and into a Y. Behind the home, there is a couple houses and then an area of maybe farming, bee keeping, sapping garden etc... I do have something that I want to send to you. How do I do this, so you get it? TY
Someone said that the car drove by twice. In a fairly quick time. Makes me think there is an easy turnaround.
Chris McDonough is a one of kind. You can feel his passion through the screen. He was born to do this. Proud to be in the TIR family.
He's great!
How can I be a part of TIR team? I love this channel. He is sincere. No fluff and stuff just facts.
Well said 👏 🥰
You are an honest man and don't ever give it a thought to what trolls say . Love you, your wife and your Lil dog.
I really like Chris. He is so knowledgeable AND respectful. Thank you!
Thank you Chris and Karen! Great work. I feel so much better knowing you are there ❤
TY, and you're right. I'm Sorry, I forgot to turn off the ticker tape... Great comment appreciate you.
Chris should be the main investigator on this case
BEST CHANNEL EVER for understanding what happens on the " inside" of a criminal investigation.
From Australia here, love your reports. I want to thank God some was willing to investigate that guy un named; he was giving me really bad vibes. His body language was off the charts. You are amazingly quick. Cheers
Just want to welcome you to Idaho. I hope you and your wife are enjoying the beauty of Idaho during your stay here. Thank you for your insight and work.
I'd start by checking the schools parking permit registry. Even if the car is registered to mommy & daddy out of state, they'd still need a school parking permit, unless they're in walking distance of school.
Amazing live. Great eye. I've been zooming in and looking at every angel of this car 🚗 the detective never retires
Holy crap. I blew it up and it has the same shape as the Elantra windows which are quite distinct. Has anyone contacted the FBI ?
We know criminals often return to the crime scene.
Simply a excellent find by Hannah. Not only going down hill but back up as well. Perfect. 💙
This is significant. IF this is the POI, and IF this is a suspect, that is absolutely jaw dropping.
@@dboyd1651. Indeed. I took a really deep look, measured these vehicles the best I could and the comparison is there. I would say again IMHO this is ( S)'s vehicle.
I went back to this video to find out the time this car was spotted to see it it matched up with the ping they showed at around 9:30 the next morning- that was a good catch
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Holy crap, great observation!
Mr. Chris, I’m catching the replay. Thank you for your hard work, dedication, & wisdom; as well as being respectful & considerate of the families!
My dad is a retired State trooper from Harrisburg, PA (Camp Hill prison) also the dude that killed the school teacher and found her body in the trunk (Jay Smith), they think her two kids are underneath the Marriott, which was being built at the time, across the street at the hotel where Susan’s body was found, lots of other stories. My point is… you talk like him. He’s 83. It’s so weird bc when you kind of take a breath when you’re speaking… you say “you see” and other little mannerisms, you just remind me of how he tells stories…you see… lol❤️TY!
I live in Pennsylvania...small world ❤️
Chris, I watch a lot of channels and you are the absolute best. Anyone else is just barely entertainment but you are amazing you really investigate these cases. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us...I'm soaking it all up!!!
The more I hear , the more I cannot believe how short sighted people are. You are authentic. Without question.
Keeping logic and reason at the forefront is key. You're doing a fantastic job!
I love how our community works together. We will get justice for these kids x
Damn right we will I will keep exercising all of my resources as a Moscow native to find who did this. There's almost 30,000 people here and I probably know at least a third of them
You are an amazing investigator...I'm sure there are some other D's out there that are good too but I just admire such a channel as this also no rubbish talk
I’ve slowed it down and zoomed in, from what I can tell, the body shape of the car is frighteningly close to that of the Elantra police are looking for.
Whether this turns into a lead or not, bravo for spotting that in the background! Amazing work!
Good catch Chris and Hannah . I love listening to your always informative shows. I could listen to you all day
Thank you. Excellent show this evening. Great progress and information..!
Wow! Great eye Chris. The car, the glove. You’re a treasure!
All the potential suspects need to be matched to the cars they own.
Praying for JUSTICE for all the loved ones of these 4 Students ! 🙏🙏🏼 🙏🙏🏼
I really think the two roommates downstairs need to be interviewed again and the guy at the food truck needs to be talked to again.
You are my hero absolutely!! And Karen is as well!!❤Watching from Texas
This video coincides with the probable cause affidavit that was released showing he returned.
I've got a question, where do I send the video and image? I ended getting close up of the car (not sure if the quality is any good). I don't use FB and I tried using Instagram but it's telling me I can't send messages.
I am not an expert but I did want to help any way I could, thanks in advance if I get an answer.
Merry Christmas Chris and bless you and your family. Be safe take care.
An interview I saw with a neighbor was ‘interesting’. From second 1 to approx second 36, he stared without 1 single blink. Throughout the interview (still haven’t seen all of it) he had very subtle little smiles (‘tells’?). LE definitely needs to interview him again.
I pray that they find out who did this 🙏
LOVE TIR!!! One of the best channels on YT. Keeping it classy, Keeping it real!!!
Just a note regarding better viewing of the videos you show that you can pass along to your viewers. I can’t speak to all platforms, but RUclips just recently introduced to iPhones (at least) the ability to zoom in pretty close. It’s very awesome, and I was able to zoom in on the car driving by at completely full screen.
It's nice to know that people have been on the alerts. A suspect was arrested in Pennsylvania who had been within 10 miles of the crime scene. I feel like he's the one.
I love the “to the point” reporting. I love the fact both your wife and you work together. I had questions and your channel answers them and brings out other ideas. I was amazed when you found that glove!
Great job I am enjoying the Interviews Thanks.
I still think the black Pickup Truck seen in the bodycam footage is significant in one way or another. its headlights are seen exiting the 1122 driveway (i had the footage enhanced) around 17 seconds before it passes the cops on Talor Ave. Wuestion is, is it established what car the apparent Uber driver was driving? The Pickup Truck couldn't be it, it's seen at 3AM (in the bodycam footage) heading eastbound.
Nancy is great. Both of you coming to Salida for Suzanne is/was wonderful. Thank you. Listened to the pod cast 👍 Very interesting you assisting with this Idaho scene. Makes me feel better! God bless you and all of the law enforcement having to deal with such a terrible and sad situation.
Where is Suzanne??
@@Notmep I sure wish we knew. The thought of her out there somewhere on that mountain range is a crippling sadness. Except knowing her beautiful soul is that she's in the loving hands of our creator. Sad and sick to think what she had to go through in her last hours. Or minutes 😓
From my time in L.E. It sure fits someone trying to stay close to where and what L.E. Is doing because they can’t quit wondering if they made a mistake and if they are going to be caught. The perpetrator likes to be ahead of L.E. At least think they can anyway.
This comment is for support. Thank you for your work. So far I find your channel one of the most interesting and 'do it correctly' on the youtube. The levels of speculation on youtube is insane.
According to Brian Entin, there are ring cameras back there on that road… right near where he drove by…IF this is the car, I hope they got access to those ring camera footage..
@Topsy I just saw your name pop up and welcome to the TIR Community. We truly appreciate having you here with us.
Hannah good catch!! It means he lives around that area. Thank you Chris and Hannah terrific job!!
Thank you 🙏🏽 to both you and Karen be safe in all you do and may you be blessed. Respect from Las Vegas
Chris, the police need to check car washes that have videos. He probably washed his car after the crime.
Ok Sherlock
@@whereRbearsTeeth lol. Not Sherlock, just common sense.
Great idea
That car is going back and forth! Chilling! He’s looking
Hidden True Crime interview with neighbor was very good but I was so uncomfortable with him. Yikes.
Merry Christmas from Missouri!🎄
@theinterviewroom the car drives up the hill at about 1:50 then back down around 3mins....this makes it even more suspicious!!
OMG! This interview with the neighbour.... OMG! Thank you for sharing it. I am speechless......
That car actually went up that hill stayed there for maybe 2 mins then came down… ( not sure if you call it a hill…) seems like driver is checking out the area…
“Not a current ongoing threat” just as the “threat” drives by
🤣🤣I thought maybe when Chris found that glove it was O.J. Ron Goldman was in the wrong place at the wrong time, too.
Impressive work and observational skills
Why did the police not set up camera around the house after the murders happened. They could have set them up around house to catch anything suspicious
Maybe they did...... There could be cameras you cannot see.
The cruisers have cameras, as well as the officer's body cams.
@@mojoegunner5115 I was thinking the same. Maybe the cruisers caught the car on the hill as well and in more details.
@@mojoegunner5115 I was thinking the same. Maybe the cruisers caught the car on the hill as well and in more detail.
@@Steve-pb2vm I don't think cruisers have cams that face that way. Usually inside the cabin facing rearward and a dash cam forwards, but nothing that would catch anything behind it, to the side, and upwards, since the car was on a hill. I find it hard to believe that the elantra wasn't caught on any other gas station or other cameras, the person even going inside. Must not be many cams around
Yes and well done to Hannah and others for their awesome observations well done to everyone and God speed with love always,c
💯free J.A
A reward for information on the car would make all the difference in the world.
Watched the car dozens of times on your video and the original news report, and I think it is an Elantra. The slanted windows are the marker. To me, it says this car is from around the neighborhood. Thanks for your coverage of this case. Amazing.
Chris, video footage of the house on Nov 13th shows no sign of the glove being there. Betcha it belongs to an investigator who wasn't aware it had fallen out of his coat pockets.
It was told today that Kaylee's x boyfriend lived only a couple of houses away
Yes watch crime circus he's got brilliant videos on the ex I didn't realise it was so close
Brilliant show, I subscribed immediately after
Find what unit number is on that copcar and review the camera in his car.
The windows on the car are similar in shape to the Hundai I think. You are always spot on and I value your expertise. Thank you for this perspective.
Great broadcasts Chris.
I’m currently working my way through your back catalogue and it’s unreal how spot on some of your observations and comments have come to be factually accurate.
Your channel cuts out the nonsense, avoids the dramatic, and ALWAYS puts the victims and their families.
Keep doing what you do, and greetings from the UK 🇬🇧.
I love it when you quote Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s Sherlock Holmes character!
I guess that’s the Brit in me lol 👍
Thank you Mate!
Merry Christmas from mid-Arizona!
This guy is a mastermind and a legend of his work
Oh wow. Just watched Lauren’s interview with that guy. Red flags all over the place. She did a great job. She just let him talk and he wants to. Hes number one in my book
Interesting, I know.
I just did too... and I'm with you... his giving them a bottle of wine story gave me the creeps of rejection...it didn't even make sense on how he told it... he was changing what really happened into what he wanted to happen... something is very wrong with him...
Nah I don't think it's him. People are eyeing Jack Showalter as the obvious suspect, yet no one knows for sure who really the hoodie guy is.
@@karacuellar7847 He was interesting, but I don't think it's him.
Where’s the interview?
Watching replays from South Africa. Thank you and your lovely wife Karen for all the info you give us. Love and respect to you and your family.
Blown away by this footage of the Elantra not only going down the hill, but, back up the hill. 😮The possibility of the perp returning /casing the scene is real. Wonder why? Is it a thrill for them to revisit crime scene or?
I know there is at least one person (besides the perpetrator) who knows who did this. I know there are several people who have information that could lead to a conviction. For whatever reason they are doubting themselves, I don’t know. Maybe they are scared. Maybe they don’t trust police because of experiences in their past. Whatever is holding you back must feel like shackles - set yourself free. Talk to the FBI. They will give you protection!!
Yes, those that stood by and let it happen.
@ Chris & Karen.This footage of this car has been online for over 2 days,, Sweetie pie lo Showed it going in both directions..It's a No Through Road up the top..& nowhere to go.. Its is basically at the back of the house...Thank you for an Amazing show as always...
That’s what I thought too but you can exit East.
Thanks for the info
You really don’t pretend. You’re the real deal. Thanks, ALWAYS! 🙏🏼
I think with the media and public frenzy over this case, the perp will find it almost irresistible to not try and soak up some of the attention. I found the recent neighbor interview interesting too. Not so much because of their demeanor, but rather things they have done regarding their social media. Editing, and re-editing post.
This!!! Exactly. Me too. Also the post saying no evidence, like how do you know? Also I believe that post was the morning of. So not even 24hrs later.
So grateful we can listen to your expertise Chris. And Karen too. Have a blessed Christmas 🎄
From Bartlesville Oklahoma merry Christmas to you all
From Columbia Missouri, Merry Christmas 🎄 to you too!
Yes he knows the house....he stalked KAYLEE and knew she was just in town for the weekend cause it was posted on Facebook.
Merry Christmas 🎄 from Oklahoma!
It goes up first at 1:50 of the news report. I guess it is circling the area watching the coverage.
Yes I saw that. It went from up hill then back down.
Possible
That's chilling with that car back there. It makes me think that he lives not to far from the area.
It also looks like he slows down more at the 3:06 mark because he can look over good and see the reporter
Start looking for cctv in area at same time this interview was done. Daylight will show driver/s. Maybe plates.
I'm watching from New Zealand, I really enjoy your work you are a great team thank you for doing this..
Could be fruitful to look at all of the early news reports to look for people or vehicles who keep showing up in the background.
So glad you mentioned that interview on Hidden True Crime. That guy is number 1 on my list.
It just seems too convenient that he could recognize car models when the light was out on that end of the street. Though I guess his own headlights might be the answer. But I would definitely want to know all of that.
You are so great to listen to. I've been following you since you 1st began. Merry Christmas Karen & Chris & Family. 🎅🏽 🤶🏼
Thank you so much!
What bothers me a bit about that neighbor is that if I'm not mistaken two days after the murders he wrote a post what happened and he said nobody heard anything and then edited that post, that is two days later he didn't hear anything and now he does.
Loved your contribution to Nancy Grace show!
I don't think we should cause suspicion on witnesses. Could be dangerous for them.
Who in the world would want to be a witness in that case?
Isn't that law enforcement car right there it has a camera in his car.
If you run the video back to the 1:50, 1:52 mark it looks like that same car is heading up the hill before coming back down at the 3:00 minute mark.
I noticed that too…
I didn't notice that. Great observation. Thank you for sharing. That is very interesting. Merry Christmas my friend.
Seen that too :)
I saw a gal post, saying she lives next door , was home with her baby didnt hear a thing. Most of her neighbors had left area after murders , and she was still there , and not to worried due to police presence still at the victims home.
They always go back to crime scene it is suspicious
❤❤❤ this live was sooo good. Nice catch Hannah!!
I hope this comment gets to you. I don't know anything about the podcast or what happened but I am listening. I was an investigator for years. One thing you can do to make you credible is not disparage other podcasts. If they are not honest God will handle that. And, saying you are embedded makes me wonder how much real time information you can share. Thank you. I am going to listen now. You seem really skilled in this area. Love Nancy Grace.
Hello Chris, Karen, Dylan and Buddy. Thank you for covering this devastating case as you always do. I always love hearing your perception and your knowledge. Prayers for answers soon 🙏🏻
The hidden crime interview was interesting. I noticed the change in his tone and breathing when asked about murders.
A glove often falls while getting in & out of a car.I
Interesting to see the drone footage of how that road winds around the back.
Great find!
That car is on Walenta drive which could be anyone from the neighbourhoods behind that residence on Kings Road