The Immortality Of Old One Eye - 40K Theories
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Just how exactly does this notorious Tyranid organism keep returning from death time and time again?
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Rawr!
Old one eye *slaps with newspaper * off the sofa !
You, me, out, NOW!
Percival The Mad Crusade hm?
Rawr?
Get back to your god dam hive fleet!
I think Old One Eye probably could regenerate his lost eye, but he just wanted a badass scar to impress the lady-carnifexes.
AND the hive mind uses its mental Impression as psychological teror tactic....
More like to impress the Norn queens.
"Look mum, I got a cool scar! See I'm better than the Swarmlord showoffs!"
BadAss scar
He can't bring those types of carnifexes home to see the Mother Hive Mind. He will just cause her to rage at the nearest craftworld or Imperial planet.
@@poodlescone9700can't find nothing wrong with either
Obviously someone made the mistake of telling an ork about old one eye, so now he keeps coming back to life because the orks think he can
Dammit
Ya know with how the orks work this kinda makes sense
Solid logic.
@@thesistersofbattle Agreed
Like how Commissar Yarrick is more ork then orks
He ate enough Ultramarines to get their plot armor?
Bad joke aside, great video.
They have plot armor? Didn't about 99% of the ultramarines die in the wars against the tyranids in ultramar?
@@natanoj16 yeah but before that ward had them defeat everything like they defeated the father of titans who been turned into a demon engine while also being a sapient AI that fired demons from its gatling guns and somehow less then a chapter of ultramarines somehow deafeated it
@@wilmagregg3131 Ah thanks. :)
@@natanoj16 I suggest you take a look at the 1d4chan wiki page of Cato Sicarus, he is the most stupidly succesful Ultramarine and the wiki noted all his "splendid" victories
I lol’d
Old One-Eye: The Deathstroke of the Tyranids.
But with the much more exaggerated healing factor of his ripoff/eventual parody Deadpool.
At first I just thought you meant a badass with healing and I was gonna say Deadpool, but then I remembered the way and realised you are right but a old one eye that shoots puns and insults at space marines would be amazing
"Let's give the faction that is the antithesis of individuality a unique hero unit."
“Lets call one of the most strongest, neigh-immortal, Tyranids the calmest name possible”
@Filip Nikolic except aren't they all just reabsorbed as they leave a planet, and are then completely remade in preparation for the next invasion, after the genestealers collect bio-data?
If I'm not mistaken, it would have to be remade the exact same way each time, which makes no sense for Tyranids.
@Filip Nikolic read devastation of baal. They are templates and the template is altered slightly due to purpose
Old one eye is actually a unique type of tyranid at this point. They are slightly altered but still look same enough because they don't get much use as they only have one or two at a time to not break the illusion of it being the same creature. The fear this tyranid generates is more important then if they tried swarming with it.
The way to make sense of it not changing and being unique.
Weird too since it is not a synapse creature. It doesn't relay anything from the hive mind.
Personally I like the idea of an incredibly pissed off Carnifex just rampaging through the galaxy, being reborn through the hive mind with his memories, and just generally being like “this’ll do you for taking my eye”
Well obviously in his combat against the Ultra Smurfs, it somehow managed to absorb some of their Ward Era plot armor, and it's been going strong.
Clearly it got its trait from the First Company that they ate to the last man. The Tyranid's are not that invincible.
Matt Ward jokes. Check. Thinking the use of the term, "plot armor" is clever. Check. Yes, sir, confirmed case of the dumb 40k fan, doomed to repeat the same lines till the day he dies, everytime expecting a laugh.
@@r.m.renfield4541 Alright mate calm down, who rattled your cage.
Still losing that nice game of tag I see. At least Ward isnt doing army books anymore.
how does old one eye keep popping up?
simple, hive mind takes a snapshot of his entire personality because he does a really good job at his job. this explains why he can now be used in any tyranid army. because they shared him on Hivebook.
Old One Eye was alive for a very long time, which is very rare for Tyranid organisms which normally throw themselves into digestive pools to be reabsorbed into the Hive Fleet. Perhaps Old One Eye somehow remained conscious while frozen and slowly began to develop his own personality and thus a soul. This soul, upon death, would be drawn into the psychic mass of the Hive Mind and would then go on to occasionally inhabit the bodies of newly born Carnifexes.
I would say his long period of independent activity is more likely to foster independent growth.
Both aspects support the hypothesis that old one eye could have acquired a form of "individuality" that could manifest itself in the tyranid gene pool either as an anomaly or as a unique weapon. He has indeed lived long and operated on his own, but he also had his brain melted by plasma. That could have severed part of his connection or subservience to the hive fleet making him a unique specimen of brainless yet somewhat more independent tyranid.
no Tyranid has a soul it is just as he said in the end of the video they keep a copy of his genetic makeup and memories then use him where needed
@@viktorgabriel2554 assuming the Hive even knows about it. there wasn't any mention of the body being re-introduced into the Tyranid gene pool, so it's possible that Old One Eye is completely unique
@@viktorgabriel2554 yes but theres a theory that a tyrnid disconnected from the hive mind and then suffering some brain damage could be alterd in a way that gives it a small bit of indiviuality in that every tyranid made from it retains his memorys and behaviour patterns as old one eye the intresting thing is if his tyranid nature keeps improving the adapted intellect each time if so he might after enough deaths reach true sapeince and indiuality giving it a soul and perhaps even psychic abilites perhaps similar to the norn queens a tyranid king perhaps
I think it an even more insidious force at work: Games Workshop needed to increase Tyranid sales making Old One Eye immortal and can travel the galaxy faster than a Necron inertialess drive.
Old One Eye was a very successful organism, so the Hives recreate him occasionally, with eye wound included. It's a case of a blind evolutionary process reproducing a success, and mindlessly including it's flaws. Similarly, humans can be considered a successful organism, but we still have vestigial tailbones, and many other evolutionary leftovers. As Pillowtap mentioned, the Hives understand psych warfare, so a recreating or reusing an unkillable recognizable figurehead is a good move.
'vestigial' tale bones are not vestigial as they do serve an important part of our digestive system, our ability to control when we poop is controlled by that bone system, amongst other things.
in fact there is no such thing as evolutionary left overs as all body parts serve a function in all organisms, even if we onlt discovered those functions recently.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 precisely, ya beat me to pointing this out.
annoyingly also referred to as an "accident" or flaw is the blind spot in our eyes, or how an octopuses eyes are better, i dunno about you but i like having the ability to not go blind from being exposed to uv rays outside of the water.
Matthew Burger All body parts serve a function yes, but not the function they originally served. Our tailbone no longer functions as a tail to balance with and such, but it serves another function which developed as humanity evolved to its current state.
Or it is a from of psychological warfare, since it would scare the living shit out of guardsmen. The Hive Mind could then use it as the Speartip for large scale assault to tip the odds slightly in favour of the Tyranids.
Can you do a video on the Enslavers? My only knowledge of 40k is spending many hours watching your videos (which are amazing btw), and I have seen a lot of brief mentions of the Enslavers, mainly during the war in heaven, and I would like a more detailed explanation of what they actually are. They were obviously incredibly powerful beings if they were capable of bring down the Old Ones, and they have me intrigued
A planet reduced to drooling masses in the matter of a week because one planetary governor though his daughter should be exempt from the psycher cull and refused to turn her over to the blackships
Space marine holds his hand wide apart “”I swear it was this BIG””
one of Horus "choice allies"
I get the reference
I see a video of my favorite Carnifex, I auto like.
Old one eye is a perpetual. Confirmed.
I wonder if there are specialized biomorphs who sole purpose is to locate, rescue, and relocate individual biomorphs who are of a value to the hive mind due to their mutations.
What happens if a Perpetual gets eaten by a Tyranid? Would it come back, and, if so, how?
It is possible that The Shadow In The Warp could somehow interfere with the pereptual's ability, or, most sincerely frightening, the possibility that perpetuality exists in some extremely obscure genetic form, in which case...
Hive Fleet 'Perpetual'.
That- is something to be truly feared.
@Zach cash
I have one retort:
*VULKAN LIVES!*
(stomp, stomp.)
Zach cash honestly I doubt anything would have been left through atmospheric reentry in a world as similar to Earth as Macragge... And yet Vulkan did regenerate from even that
@Zach cash That's not how nukes work. They use atomic power to destroy, yes, but they do not 'break things down on an atomic level." that's now how that works. What you see in the after math of nuclear explosions is caused by the force of the explosion, not because some magical bomb force pulled apart their atoms.
@@ramonaray4307 I believe in war of the beast, Vulkan realises the only way to kill the ork In charge is to basically to pull it into a massive reactive generator. Thus Vulkan was atomized but he regenerated from that.
I love the unique Tyranid organisms, I hope you do videos on the others 40K Theories!
It's simple, Khalidor Dragho was eaten by a Tyranid and now one of them inherited his genetic plot armour
You mean Black Carapace!
HERESY! Tyranids don't have Black Carapace!
There's also the beast of Phodia from the shield of baal: exterminatus box set. It was a carnifex thought to have been killed numerous times before blood angels captain Karlaen put it down. In the 7th ed rules it had the "it will not die" rule
"Old One Eye" an intergalactic urban legend.
Could Old One Eye have ascended to become a Chaos God?
“We won’t know that it’s Old One-Eye until it’s confirmed?”
Could Old One-Eye replace his missing eye with cyber-dongs?
Love the idea of using ol' one eye as the leader of a massive swarm of tyranids, rampaging around without the control of the Hive-Fleets
honestly sounds like it just came back to life normally on calph that one time then people spread rumors about it untill demons with its appearance started to pop up and perpetuate the story since thats pretty much how you make demons
When he died on Calth there was a hive fleet within range and through his synapse absorbed his conscientiousness and genetic information and passed from fleet to fleet to return him to his original fleet. Each of the fleets along the way now has the information to make themselves an Old One Eye and if they did they would start a divergent line from the original. What the Imperium keeps witnessing may be different individual OOEs that all started with the memories up until Calth and will develop their own 'strategies' making it harder to deal with one if you ever come across it.
Carnifexes run into battle while yelling “I AM OLD ONE EYE”
The alpha legion but tyranids
The way you said Behemoth almost shut down both of my kidneys and my pancreas
ruclips.net/video/qDjYx6y_KB4/видео.html ;)
Old One Eye I believe was designed as a nod to Khazak One Eye from Fantasy- as many characters and races have mirrors in 40k - I wonder who Boris Todbringer (The coolest character in fantasy without doubt) would be in 40k?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
Best way to start the week 👍🏼
Imagine being the guy that blasts one eye and starts the whole legend of one eye and everyone just forgot you... bet he was so proud but, just forget him I guess
In fairness, the dude who was forgotten just killed a regular Carnifex. The legend was born after the kill. In the grand scheme of things, imagine how many Carnifex's have been killed.
@@Schofield101 True, even still its quite a feat.
i think its just a genetic memory and template of the one eye that was picked up by the hive fleet.
its regeneration must be linked to its consciousness, since when its reconstituted its eye is still damaged.
so it might have lingering mental damage from that plasma shot and might be unable to regenerate that
(best crit ever - immortal ey? well permanent mental damage!)
or the hive mind somehow knows that the "legend" of one eye terrifies humans thereby that in itself is a war asset. So only making sure to place only "one" one eye in combat makes sure that the legend is not spoiled by "oh look there are more than one - guess its not a special thing then" and removing a war asset.
i kinda like the last one more since it implies the hive caught onto a meta physical effect and decided to use it when necessary as to induce terror
“All hail the king, baby!!”
-Old One-Eye
Perpetual Tyranid...
Perhaps it has to relate to it being frozen. Could it be possible that it somehow coudnt regrow its missing eye socket cuz the dna around that are is "forgotten" due to it being frozen for some time.
Sounds dumb, but its an idea
no if they are like us, where DNA is the same in all the cells, but its expresed diferently, whatever maked it a perpetual, it must had happened after he lost his eye
what if after getting 'killed' the 2nd time after the thaw he was absorbed again and given 'hero' status. in that meaning if needed he was remade again BUT his mind is kept intact and there can only be 1 at a time since no sightings happened at the same time. he may also be avitar of the actual hive mind.
I like to think that the hive mind thought Old One Eye was 'diesel' enough to have it's genetic template saved and it's consciousness backed up for later use like the swarm lord
Good theory video Ramleiz :D The thing that the "Old One Eye"-like creatures have been seen around the galaxy in multiple battlezones its either due to the fact it's an upgraded version of the Carnifex that all of the tendrils of the Great Devourer have.
Or the sheer belief that it havn't been killed, just like the thing about Orks and Commissar Yarrick, makes it rise from the dead :)
Is it possible Old One Eye was once apart Hive Fleet Hydra, but was abandoned and picked up by Behemoth? And so on?
So it looks like the Tyranids do have Hero Units. It's terrifying, yet interesting.
Yup and has the tyranids evolve they will start to have units and hive fleet that are standing out. Usually I'm not tyranids fan but ever since I read about hive fleet Kronos which is tyranids hive fleet that specializes in range and psychic abilities thus making the perfect hive fleet to fight chaos and they created a new unit call the Maleceptors.
the named bioforms in the 8th edition codex are described as being stress biomorphs. like if a hive fleet are pushed to a certain point, these greater bioforms are then produced to push the tide of war back into their favor. I do wish they had kept Old-one eye and Deathleaper as specific characters to individual hive fleet instead of allowing all hive fleets access to them, that way they stayed as unique characters.
Ah I must have missed the stress bioform passage, what page is that on?
@@40KTheories can't remember exactly, or maybe I saw it on Warhammer community when they first talked about the codex's release. it would explain why the named tyranids do show up in other fleets though. on the swarmlord's page (63) it does talk about itself being a stress-induced response, so this can also apply to the other "named" bioforms
i think the norn queens must've reached an agreement to share the psychic, biological, and mental profiles of their strongest specimens. this might be a sign of the tyranids becoming a little more desperate
what if old one eye gained independent thought when it regenerated its brain
Keeping the wound as a taunting gesture. Evil but genius, I bet there would be a large amount of would be Ork leaders who'd want to kill him for the bragging rights
Great video 40k Theories
The only issue I could see is how the Hive Mind was able to initially reabsorb Old One Eye's genetic info to remake it. A psychic connection could be possible, but usually the Hive Mind requires the creature to take dip into a digestion pool first to perform that. Maybe there was one still active hidden on Calth?
Seriously the whole Idea of the Zooanthrope eating souls is stupid
old one eye is the hive fleet partaking in psychological warfare with the galaxy.
It should also be noted that all other hive tyrants also have their consciousnesses saved by the hive mind, along with other organisms such as Deathleaper and the Red Terror. Old One Eye also fits in here. If I’m not mistaken, the 8th edition nids codex does make note that individual organisms that stand out as exceptionally useful are kept by the hive mind.
Someone did mention how the Swarmlord's entry mentions how it's created as a 'stress response'. If you can cite the page where it says the same for Old One Eye i'd appreciate that :)
@@40KTheories the real question, are old one eye and the swarmlord friends, do they like to hang out and eat guardsmen together?
this is of course a joke
Your videos got me into the warhammer franchise.
Yes, “killing it instantly”.
Psychological warfare, new zenos everytime. But the fear of one eye lives on in all guardsmen.
I bet Rowboat Girlyman's ass puckers whenever he thinks about the Swarmlord, it almost killed him last time and he knows that inevitably he's going to have to fight it again, and even if he defeats it they'll meet again, and again, and as many times as it takes.
Plot Twist: He's actually a Zerg
Ultralisk (Torasque strain)
@@codysing1223 So, basically, a tyranids after cheap tooth-removal? Because it's a rip off?
I'll show myself out.
Some interesting ideas. I like the theory of the Carnifex eating a perpetual and absorbing something of it's powers.
One Eye might be a creature designed to cause problems for planets that can actually repel the hive fleets. A sort of 'fuck you' option.
My favourite tyranid character :) Great video as always
I have a feeling that the term old one- eye amongst the Tyranids is like a title. Kind of like how the name Ysgramor is used amongst the forces of Chaos with several of them running around and everyone thinking they are the same guy, except it’s loads of different people using the same name. Which is what I think is happening here.
Phycological warfare is the best reason they bring him back again and again what's more terrifying than a apex predator that refuses to die
Do you own all the books you quote, or do you get info from the net?
He ate a crotalid, that's how he's seen on various planets.
what i think, is that old one eye has a fucking kick ass mini, across most of time.
I never thought of that before. A Perpetual being absorbed by a Hive Fleet. Scary shit.
knowing lore from dawn of war 2 and the crystalline crushing claw's that some heavy units have it dose not surprise me at all that these things tear thru tanks like paper.....
Maybe old one eye is lethargic kinda like that cat from that one episode of American dad where a cat randomly attacked a kid, seemingly died and wakes up and drags its body towards the boy to continue its assault.
Oh lovely a tyranid perpetual joy
Could be the Hive Fleets playing about with psychological warfare. Deliberately creating an exact copy of a previously notable bioform on multiple worlds in order to create the legend of an invincible Tyranid. Wherever Old One Eye is sighted, its going to go through the defender's ranks quickly and seriously knock their morale.
Dear lord I wanna see the sheer epic duel between Guilliman and a Swarm Lord.
God that'd be epic
Really nice video as always.
I believe that Old one Eye could be a prototype Swarm Lord and its simply recreated by Hive mind as a terror weapon ?
Old One-Eye, Ghazghull, and Commisar Yarrick are gonna be the last three things in the galaxy, just you wait.
*DISTRACTION CARNIFEX*
And the wound reappears because the psychic backlash causes that first death memory manifest itself.
One day magnus was scying the multiverse and took pity on ol' one eye and gave him immortality.
He is a perpetual. calling it now.
As much as I adore Old One Eye, my favorite theory is that there really only was the one, and he's dead. All other "sightings" are mistaken identity and warhammer doing the "unreliable narrator" they do so often. I love the idea of him being the warhammer version of the boogeyman
Perhaps in the ice, over the years, he somehow became cut off from the hive fleet and so evolved and developed to be independent of the hive mind, he had to become self sufficient but also has a personality, bearing the scars of the past possibly as a mark of pride, maybe the brain damage caused by the wound allowed it to be liberated
Possibly not a case of mistaken identity but perhaps the hive fleets employing the ability to recreate old one eye as a somewhat case of fear factor due to his notoriety
Apparently old one eyes head is now on marbos jungle table and his eye socket is used as an ash tray.
He's like the wolverine of the carnifex
Great video!
Old one Eye is my favorite Tyranid organism for many reasons
What do I think? I think heavy flamers.
What saved old one eye ... plot armour..fought this beast numerous times .. still healthy doloup of respect to this bio lifeform
when your so hungry you eat a couple entire generations of souls
The Tyranids really will take over the universe
The hive mind has a list of its favorite OC’s and old one eye is one of them XD
1:44 my gut tells me it was Caito
I like to believe that he just isn't being killed, but rather lobotomised over and over. Poor guy.
I'm confused here,In Warriors of Ultramar,Uriel shot a carnifex in the eye and ended up with a very similar injury as old one eyes and nothing was ever mentioned about what happened to it as I dont recall reading that it died as it being shot was the last thing you read about it.
If someone could clarify my statement and explain that would be great,thanks.
This is just me thinking about the emporer and his desire to destroy the chaos gods, but could it be that he is a force of malal(malice). It's probably nothing but it got me thinking of stuff.
yranids have their own perpetuals
Perhaps he ate an unknowing perpetual, absorbing his perpetual gene, just not in such a way that gave it flawless regeneration.
Perhaps the perpetual he ate, was also a psyker, who had the ability to teleport.
A perpetual tyranid... wow
Also known as Cuddlefex.
I think that old one eye might be a case of an extraordinary individual(yes, thats an actuall thing)
An extraordinary individual is like this... you know of the smartest man alive?(his dead now but idk his name) he can be classified as an extraordinary individual cuz he had a really big impact on his grope and species in the form of his discoveries.
Old one eye might be an extraordinary individual cuz of his combat skills, making so that the hive mind keeps him alive after eating a world and cloning him back after his death
2:10 and they didn't aim their ship weapons at the thing or bring some heavy-duty bombs or even just called in extra support like bombers or something on standby, or had imperial forces ready to call if things got awry?
Plus, you'd think such creatures would have been purged from the world in the aftermath of the war ASAP for when the Tyranids try this thing again.
Old one eye could also have been a mutation that was copied and improved on to form the swarm lords as in the first war with the nids there where no swarm lords
HOW COULD A MERE PLASMA PISTOL DO THAT MUCH DAMAGE ??? .... MUST BE A PLASMA GUN OF A GUARDSMAN
I sense a hickup here. Okay, the blueprint for this exeptional regenerating berserker Nid might be available for several hive fleets for thousands of years maybe and they use it in Fitting sitations. BUT why would they all produce these Special creatures with the characteristic non-regenerating eye? Why would they pump out damaged creatures if they have the blueprint for the undamaged creature?