Aside from you awesome tutorial .. you have just confirmed for me what I always had in mind ... auto focus points are actually useless most of the time .. because the more they are the more you lose focus. I usually use the center point focus which gives me full control of what want my camera to focus on.. that way I can also half click to get the part I want to be in focus and then move my camera to get to composition I like ... very simple and effective ... but then again .. its just my personal opinion as a hobbyist and not a professional photographer... did you guys know that if you have a Canon 5D classic you can actually take the most beautiful photos ever?? well... you're welcome ;)
Learning that even with modern eye-AF, "skating to where the puck will be" regarding choosing an AF point that considers your intended composition is awesome. The corollary is to do your best to only pay attention to that portion of the viewfinder/screen and hit the shutter when the subject moves into the AF spot.
Thanks an excellent tutorial. I inspired me to reading the my camera's manual (a PowerShot610) to see it AF modes other than just the Center. It has only three modes. However, you video help begin to experiment using those modes. Thanks again for a wonderful video.
My go to is single point, lock and recompose. I'm surprised you didn't touch on that method as it seems to be a very popular especially when shooting people.
With mirrorless cameras since the AF area covers almost the whole sensor there's little need for focus and recompose, with DSLRs is a must depending on the composition however if you are shooting wide open a fast lens (1.8, 1.4, 1.2) it could introduce slight misfocusings.
If I am doing a portrait on my canon rebel T7i which focus should I pick? Should we change if we switch to a family portrait? Thank you for sharing your tips !
What I don’t get is: Why does canon not allow you to always look for the eye closest to the lense, since that is what you most often want to focus on? Eye focus tracking is helpful, but less so if it keeps jumping from one eye to the other.
Maybe its a stupid question, BUT... what if you're doing a fashion shoot, where the focus is the whole body. What is the focus point? I have done some shoots, full-length and then when i zoom in, the eye is slightly blurred!!!
I agree with Sebastian below. Basically, if you want the camera to just make sure SOMETHING is in focus, then it works great. But as you get more experience, you decide to take control of the camera and YOU tell IT where you want to focus.
It's really something to watch her model! I've probably had about one second of her photogenic smiles in my whole lifetime and three quarters of that second weren't captured in photographs.
Great video! With new technology that camera should have a "Seriously, dude?" setting that keeps the focus on Erica even if you move the frame over to the trees. And yes, Sony consumers have had eye auto focus for a while, so that they could "concentrate on important things like composition, lighting and posing." The bad news is that it turns out they aren't any better at those things than they were at focusing their cameras.
The way the optics work, you're always focusing on a plane that is parallel to the sensor. Closing down your aperture increases your depth of field (the "thickness" of the in-focus area), but if your foreground and background are very far apart, you will never really have both in perfect focus.
@@DavidBergmanPhoto dang that sucks..thank you for the answer though..I know most people like the bokeh effect but I like to see everything that's in the frame.
The one he announced doing on his channel? Technical difficulties with the Mevo app dropping sound, plus he was losing his voice near the end. He decided not to add it to his channel so the only way to see it was to be there live.
I think you left out an important point in having many focus points to choose from in this tutorial. What is the point of having so many focus points if you're only going to use the one in the center to focus and then recompose the image once focus is locked? Isn't the whole reason manufacturers added so many focus points nowadays is to allow you to compose the image and then move the focus point where you desire it? That way you're not introducing any possible focus distortion effects from your lens the closer the focus point is to the edges, especially with wide lenses. Sure, old school habits may still work with newer tech, but it just seems like you should learn to take advantage of the newer tech to justify having bought it in the first place!
Dean Lopez Of course there are many different ways to achieve the same result. For the things I normally shoot - mostly fast action concerts and sports, I like to keep my brain focused on the subject in front of me instead of on my camera settings. Personally, I find that constantly moving focus points takes my attention away from what’s happening in front of the lens. If it works for you, then that’s awesome! Thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment.
True. But I use AI Servo / continuous 100% of the time. Combines with back button focus, it gives you the best of both worlds as you simply let go of the thumb AF-ON button to lock focus.
It isn't the same thing. Canon 1DX Mark II has 61 "real" focus points (on D-SLR), but EOS R has "virtual" focus points directly on sensor. Cannot compare them directly - compare with 1DX Mark III for example.
You know this man is the GOAT when says all this knowledge with one take
Thanks for coming back to RUclips!
I'm glad this series was moved over to RUclips.
👍👍👍 thumbs up for Erica👌👌
Hi David
Thanks for your information
I want to know how can I focused on group people?
Great video! The eye detection is a compelling argument in favor of the R series. Also very endearing subject.
Superb best explanation on focus points
Great to have this kind of this videos back specially with the new mirrorless capabilities.
Thank you for your explanation! It was extremely helpful to me! 👍🏻🙌🏻
David makes everything easier.
Thank you! I try my best.
Aside from you awesome tutorial .. you have just confirmed for me what I always had in mind ... auto focus points are actually useless most of the time .. because the more they are the more you lose focus. I usually use the center point focus which gives me full control of what want my camera to focus on.. that way I can also half click to get the part I want to be in focus and then move my camera to get to composition I like ... very simple and effective ... but then again .. its just my personal opinion as a hobbyist and not a professional photographer... did you guys know that if you have a Canon 5D classic you can actually take the most beautiful photos ever?? well... you're welcome ;)
Learning that even with modern eye-AF, "skating to where the puck will be" regarding choosing an AF point that considers your intended composition is awesome. The corollary is to do your best to only pay attention to that portion of the viewfinder/screen and hit the shutter when the subject moves into the AF spot.
Thanks an excellent tutorial. I inspired me to reading the my camera's manual (a PowerShot610) to see it AF modes other than just the Center. It has only three modes. However, you video help begin to experiment using those modes. Thanks again for a wonderful video.
It's very nice description David, congrats! You are gifted one.
Love you man , you really helped me in my photography journey
Thank you
Thanks Dave. Another great video.
How about AI Focus, AI Servo and back button focus used for shooting groups, parties or sports? Depth of field?
On RUclips! Yayyyyy!
By what means could I reposition my focus point on m R10?
Thank you!
I'm using canon 2000d I don't have alot of focus options any suggestions please?
That's why they call it shooting. But, seriously, she's a very patient and knowledgeable model. She is helping a lot.
pls any recommendation for group pictures. what focus point is needed
Fantastic info. Very simply said and demnstrated... even for my Sony A7111. Thanks so much!!
Back button AF and re compose. Once you learn that you never go back !!
Yep
That’s best feature
My go to is single point, lock and recompose. I'm surprised you didn't touch on that method as it seems to be a very popular especially when shooting people.
With mirrorless cameras since the AF area covers almost the whole sensor there's little need for focus and recompose, with DSLRs is a must depending on the composition however if you are shooting wide open a fast lens (1.8, 1.4, 1.2) it could introduce slight misfocusings.
only for DSLR's
If I am doing a portrait on my canon rebel T7i which focus should I pick? Should we change if we switch to a family portrait? Thank you for sharing your tips !
thank you so much you covered all my confusion , thank you so much
Sir great information thanks.
Hi, David How are you
Very nice Photography Tips & Tricks . Thankyou
I am Olso Canon User
The model, gorgeous. Oh, and great vid. Thank you.
What I don’t get is:
Why does canon not allow you to always look for the eye closest to the lense, since that is what you most often want to focus on? Eye focus tracking is helpful, but less so if it keeps jumping from one eye to the other.
Maybe its a stupid question, BUT... what if you're doing a fashion shoot, where the focus is the whole body. What is the focus point? I have done some shoots, full-length and then when i zoom in, the eye is slightly blurred!!!
My focus point would be the butt. Of course, I'd have to deal with self-imposed camera shake...
Hi David, could you add the link you mentioned at the beginning of the video please.
I have the canon 1dx do I have eye focusing
Can someone tell me what the focus setting should be when shooting more than one person?
So David , what scenario would you use Zone AF, there’s a reason camera manufacturers have that feature?
I guess is more for inexperienced people who just bought this camera and doesn't want/know how to deal with a more "manual/advanced" focus system...
quick moving subjects
I agree with Sebastian below. Basically, if you want the camera to just make sure SOMETHING is in focus, then it works great. But as you get more experience, you decide to take control of the camera and YOU tell IT where you want to focus.
@@rsg440 try shooting with a fast-moving pro model no time to focus and recompose the eye detection is so fast.
Hi
Why did you use Servo AF for a portrait shoot?
Cheers
Focusing at f5 is not a challenge. Try this methods at 85 1.2 for example
even better with dual pixel focusing
awesome video! thanks ☺️
Thanks!
OMG 😲 She’s gorgeous !
Eye settings use eny time ? Ple reply
This was really helpful - thanks so much, I've liked and subscribed! :)
are you on Firmware 1.4.0? it did not look like it was I am sure mine if faster on the eye detection
I shot this episode before the newest firmware was out. It's much faster / more accurate now!
Strange that the eye autofocus is jumping most of the time out from the closest eye.
Each generation of firmware and hardware gets faster / more accurate. There was already been a firmware update since I shot the video. :)
So this is the new Two-minute tips? Cool!
Yup - maybe consider it to be 6-minute tips. :)
Should've told us you have eye tracking in the beginning. Saved a lot of time. Looking for DSLR
As technology advanced, would it be easier just use eye detection focus using mirrorless cameras?
it's much easier to use the first option to the left - I'm not sure why he was using the second
Eye AF is excellent in certain situations (portraits, for example!). But for action, I'd still rather take control of where my camera is focusing.
Great tips!!!’
It's really something to watch her model! I've probably had about one second of her photogenic smiles in my whole lifetime and three quarters of that second weren't captured in photographs.
Great advice!
Really really beautiful model!
Yes, double really!!
Nice, I shoot with the eos r
Great video! With new technology that camera should have a "Seriously, dude?" setting that keeps the focus on Erica even if you move the frame over to the trees.
And yes, Sony consumers have had eye auto focus for a while, so that they could "concentrate on important things like composition, lighting and posing." The bad news is that it turns out they aren't any better at those things than they were at focusing their cameras.
How to set focus point
Muchas gracias! :)
Wow relly i like thish video and your tips is all inporteans.
Rookie question here...how do I get the WHOLE picture in focus...instead of just one object or one person's face..
The way the optics work, you're always focusing on a plane that is parallel to the sensor. Closing down your aperture increases your depth of field (the "thickness" of the in-focus area), but if your foreground and background are very far apart, you will never really have both in perfect focus.
@@DavidBergmanPhoto dang that sucks..thank you for the answer though..I know most people like the bokeh effect but I like to see everything that's in the frame.
Hi David, my question is "how do you record your camera's LCD screen to show in your videos?"
It’s that big device he has on top of his camera
Yup - the Atomos Ninja 2 is a field recorder that captures the HDMI out from the camera.
HDMI out
Cool!!
Cool video
Between Marissa and Erica, you can’t lose!!
I have disposed of all my Canon gear and shifted completely to Sony with Eye-AF. The Sony Eye-AF is a bit better than that on the Canon...
I wonder what happened to Seth's live stream, was looking forward to that.
The one he announced doing on his channel? Technical difficulties with the Mevo app dropping sound, plus he was losing his voice near the end. He decided not to add it to his channel so the only way to see it was to be there live.
Very usefull
Sony Eye AF for the win #TheFutureIsSony
not since the update on the R
I think you left out an important point in having many focus points to choose from in this tutorial. What is the point of having so many focus points if you're only going to use the one in the center to focus and then recompose the image once focus is locked? Isn't the whole reason manufacturers added so many focus points nowadays is to allow you to compose the image and then move the focus point where you desire it? That way you're not introducing any possible focus distortion effects from your lens the closer the focus point is to the edges, especially with wide lenses. Sure, old school habits may still work with newer tech, but it just seems like you should learn to take advantage of the newer tech to justify having bought it in the first place!
Dean Lopez Of course there are many different ways to achieve the same result. For the things I normally shoot - mostly fast action concerts and sports, I like to keep my brain focused on the subject in front of me instead of on my camera settings. Personally, I find that constantly moving focus points takes my attention away from what’s happening in front of the lens. If it works for you, then that’s awesome! Thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment.
Why not use eye autofocus?
Eye AF is excellent in certain situations (portraits, for example!). But for action, I'd still rather take control of where my camera is focusing.
I can't believe how technology became more advanced nowdays
Thanks for the video however it still doesn't answer why we have so many insane focus points. You talked only about couple.
As I say in the video, having more points allows you to place it exactly where you want in the frame.
Wow...boy is my 6D super slow. Nice answer BTW. But all I want to do now is get a new camera. Lol
Plz use beginner cameras
The problem you referred to on single point focus would only occur is you had the setting on continuous focus.
True. But I use AI Servo / continuous 100% of the time. Combines with back button focus, it gives you the best of both worlds as you simply let go of the thumb AF-ON button to lock focus.
What if you’re not just focusing on the face? Maybe you need the whole outfit?
My focus points are always on Erica. Just saying :)
👍👍👍👍👍
Eye autofocus may be 'brand new technology' on Canon cameras, but the likes of Fuji & Sony have had it long enough to get it Zackly!
Eye AF is still relatively new in the camera tech world and improving with any generation - no matter which brand you use. :)
Not everyone has professional equipment... try using normal equipment for the common people ☺️
she doesn't stand still!....good explanation!
who needs af point and eye af when out of focus photography is the trend..lol
Eye AF, is not brand new technology. Sony had it for several years
Still relatively new and improving as far as camera technology goes.
not with dual-pixel focusing
you must work on your audio sir it's very poor
5000+ af points? Really???
Wahab Dilawar Yup! Insane, right?
It isn't the same thing. Canon 1DX Mark II has 61 "real" focus points (on D-SLR), but EOS R has "virtual" focus points directly on sensor. Cannot compare them directly - compare with 1DX Mark III for example.
There are better technology Nikon and Sony cameras freely available in the market,so why should I bother about this outdated Canon product ?
nothing is as good as dual-pixel focusing
Eye AF it’s a brand new technology looool
Sony has it since 5 years
Canon is a half decade late
yes with the best dual-pixel focusing it is NEW
Teach manually how to focus
Thank you