Dont cheat players out of gear they won by using a dps meter as a way to steal what isnt yours. Dont use mass insults and swear on Twitch Dont go where you arent supposed to be and dont exploit glitches. Dont use vpns to log into an MMO Seems simple to me.
It's annoying, but rolling is law. If you start to mingle with who or what performed better or worse you might as well go back to dkp. Rogue was there. Rogue was shit but a roll is sacred nonetheless.
I had something similar happen to me back in Cata that happened to Soda. My account was hacked and the hacker had cleaned me out. Apparently, he was also breaking TOS as I found myself in some weird out of bounds zone when I got control of my account back. A GM got ahold of me wondering what I was doing there, and I had to explain to him that I was hacked. Thankfully, the GM must have confirmed it by looking up the ticket I had sent and ported me back to SW. I eventually got my gear and gold back. For them to ban Soda after he was hacked is weird especially since customer service would have him on record as being hacked.
Tbh it was his fault for letting that tcpo guy even stay there. He should have spoke up like "Hey, this guy isn't repaired, isn't specc'd right, is doing horrible damage, etc. Should we REALLY keep him or let him have any loot?" and let the group decide from there or just kicked him if he was the raid leader. Not "Ok let him roll on loot." and think he won't win the roll (since he clearly did). Because that pretty much is loot scam... dude allowed him to roll, he won, and it got stolen from him because of his terrible dps. Ye don't just do that because someone had low dps...
Going to point this out though. In classic wow replacing people who were not up to snuff was not nearly as easy as it is modern day. Someone would of had to of gone outside the raid and put that they were looking for another member for the raid. This could take quite a large chunk of time to do. Now I do feel like yes he did get screwed over on the loot. Also at that time they used DKP (Dragon Kill Points). DKP could impact your roll score or if you were eligible for roll. This scenario could of been what occurred that made him decide to have everyone reroll it. Now what I believe here is that instead of doing a full reroll it should of just gone to the 2nd person if that was the case. So yeah i do agree it was pretty much a loot scam in that scenario.
@@speedbump9299 No matter what way you look at it, it's not a scam. It's someone undeserving being punished for their stupidity. But that doesn't make it right and at the least the guy was entitled to the item he won. Banning over it is nonsense, though.
You can't exclude people from rolling due to poor performance if you don't state before hand that poor performance excludes you from rolling on loot. I'm glad blizzard enforces these loot rules. I wouldn't have wanted that rogue to have gear either, but the rules are there for your benefit even when they don't work in your favor.
Oh for sure. I found out first hand and my Instagram ban was even more fucked up. I created an Instagram account follow 8 people, that's all I do, I don't use a VPN etc, I don't post anything. All I did was follow 8 other accounts. About 2 weeks later I can't log in and it says my account has been banned for violating TOC. Apparently following people on Instagram is a violation so it's strange that not all accounts are banned then.
the crazy thing about the punkrat story, i witnessed it, and on youtube he asked for people to send in tickets to ask him get unbanned, since i liked his content i tried to help him out. and after about a month after i sent the ticket, twitch actually emailed me back and said my ticket was spam (or something i can't remember exactly) and gave ME a soft ban!
Love the "elite" idiots who always say "your dps is to low,you have shit gear" then when gear comes up,they give it to the better geared toons because,hey why not lol.
yeah no, my raid lock, my raid group, my decision to give it to whoever the fuck i want. He wasn't banned because he 'loot scammed', if he had never allowed the person to roll for the gear in the first place then he never would've been banned period. It was the fact that he allowed the person to roll for the loot and then changed his mind after that got him banned.
During the Warlords of Draenor era of the game, when I was leveling one of my accounts, there was a quest boss in the southern part of Gorgrond in this cave, and he uses fear, and if he uses that near the entrance to the cave, your character would path through the wall and fall into the void. This happened to me once and I was confused, but once i gained back control I fell into the void below and got kicked out of the game, I couldnt log back on so I had to submit a ticket. An hour later my account was back on the surface, and within 20 minutes a GM dmed me informing me im about to get a 3 day ban...which i tried to quickly explain its their own gamed mechanics fault before I got kicked off. Legit annoyed at that still. I managed to get an unban by calling support and calling out the bs on how it was handled. But Im pretty sure I wasnt the only one who accidently stumbled upon this.
Well, for it to be the early days, it just needs to be in the first 50% of expansions. Vanilla-Shadowlands is 9 expansions, so MoP is exactly in the middle. With Dragonflight, it's now in the first half of expansions and is technically the early days.
Yeah he acted like regular asshole, guy should have it even he was bad. He rolled and win he decided not giving it to him and it was taken as loot scuming and he got banned rightfully.
@@1994BlackBear Because it's in Blizz's best interest to protect the integrity of group looting rules. If they don't, even more assholes like payo ramp up their loot shenanigans making the game ridiculously toxic, then people just stop playing cause they don't want to deal with it. Pretty sure blizz dosen't want to bleed subs because they don't want to deal with assholes who change the rules on the fly to the suit themselves.
Agreed. If they wanted to punish the rogue because they turn up with the 'wrong' spec or played very badly, they should have been kicked before the loot rolls or the veyryboss fight itself. By allowing the rogue to roll for loot, Payo sealed the 'agreement to loot rules' on his end. Changing his mind because the rogue won the roll is not a valid reason to withold loot, as at that point both parties agreed to the same loot rules. Violating these rules is indeed a justified ban.
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Awful management like this is a huge part of why WoW is tanking. Blizzard hands out bs bans for bogus reasons, but does nothing about trolls and toxic players.
Random question: Where is the video (not related to the streamers) content showing, with the troll monk fighting on what appears to be a beachhead? Why do I not recognize this place?
3 expansions before 4 expansions since. It’s earlier than not and every year it gets more and more accurate to call it the early days. When we are 12 expansions in pandaria will be considered early days.
The stupidest thing about WoW and Login for me is the fact that the one who is online at that moment gets kicked...i mean how fucked up is this. its like getting kicked out of you vehicle while driving and someone else will drive away xD
Blizzards are the biggest assholes nowadays when it comes to customer service. Yea, when it comes to EA you can't even contact them and they are still doing better job by not doing it.
Twitch is weird with their rules sometimes. I've seen twitch partners say the "N" word live on stream. And not even get a slap on the wrist. Awhile ago, someone in my VC slipped and said the "N" word, and thankfully I wasn't banned. However, Twitch contacted me, told me I need to inform those who are in VC with me what they can't say while I'm live. And deleted my broadcast. Selective sometimes I've noticed....
Its less selective and more of "rules for thee but not for me" nonsense. Twitch admins can apparently say whatever they hell they want but the twitch users get screwed.
Nef has never been fire immune. He is highly resistant to Shadow/Fire - But he is far from Immune. World of Logs can show you parses of Fire Mages/Warlocks doing damage to Nef - And even Geddon/Rag in MC. Nef - Fire Mage: classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/1002#boss=617&class=Mage&spec=Fire Rag - Fire Mage: classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/1000#boss=672&class=Mage&spec=Fire
The video should be renamed to 5 WoW Streamers Who Got BANNED for BS reasons. None of these "offenses" are actual offenses but overzealous moderators and poorly designed bots. The twitch ones are especially aggravating because you can argue that a WoW GM cannot reasonably browse through hours of logs to determine how guilty or not guilty you are but twitch mod can literally just watch 10 seconds of a clip and immediately judge if it was intentionally malicious or not.
If they consistantly did nothing for a few bosses, it's fine to tell them they are excluded from the drops on future bosses. They aren't ready for the raid and shouldn't be taking gear from people who did do the work to gear up properly. But you can't let someone roll and then not give the item to the winner.
Pilav did not get banned for saying the N-word. It was one of his slip-ups on that stream, but not the one that got him banned. The reason he got banned was because he criticized another female WoW streamer (i think he called her a twitch thot) in that same stream, and since it was viewed as a personal attack, it got him banned.
The only streamer that does not get ban and still play wow to this day in Asmongold. Period Blizzard sales went up because of this guy. He is probably even paid by both twitch and activision for doing it
I thought I would come to the video and see some toxic people getting punished, but all I see is more examples of how shit Blizzard is at dealing with issues.
There has been a hardcore raider who griefed a raid group. It was a high level raiding guild. Of the 40 toons only 4 survived the first time. He did it again with a different account to the same guild a little while later. That account got a lifetime ban, but he has multiple accounts. It was streamed and he got a huge bump in viewers both time.
safespotting is considered an exploit now, so yeah its bannable. was quite controversial when blizz first made that decision but no one seems to care about it anymore.
3:20 No, if you say that his performance is too low, just exclude him from the raid/boss fight. If you take him into the fight without him agreeing to go without loot beforehand and refuse to give him the loot, you are loot scamming. And he wasn't getting banned (permanent) but just suspended (temporarily) as you yourself said.
The monk play is really confusing. Please stop adding that gameplay cause you lack content. It's just annoying to focus on multiple things all the time.
Yea back then one of those keychain authenticators was NOT a very good security method. I was hacked once years ago and discovered all they had to do was get ahold of your email and contact blizz asking for the authenticator to be removed. And they would.
@@darkwhispersstories47 But that doesn't matter. It was the fourth expansion, 8 years after the release of wow. It's hardly in the "early days of wow" given that the game's 16 years old by now.
Content is good but like what’s up with cutting to random leveling and mob grinding instead of just still images. Doesn’t really fit or make sense at all
Soda honestly got lucky all that happened during MoP. It was basically the last xpac that they had real GMs answer phone calls and handle customer support. Now its all underpaid interns with no perms or bots
Raid loot scam? That's really a thing that blizzard enforces now? Shit I wish that existed back in wotlk days. I still remember in a nax25 the turning tide dropped, I won the roll and the Raid leader wanted to give it to his buddy instead. His "reason" for it is that it was reserved if it dropped but between the two of them they didn't tell anybody. So Skampy on Whisperwind,if you are reading this well over a decade later you can chug on my scrote.
Back in the day during wrath my father's account got hacked by some chinease guy and his stuff and gold taken. After contacting customer service they banned him because the hacker used his account to sell in-game stuff for real life money. Goes to show how inept the customer support is.
That's really a dick move but sometimes Blizz will give random players permabans while not telling them why so it could be worse. Also a rogue with PvP talents who came to raid with broken gear and DPSed with a bow should be instakicked, he didn't deserve the rogue loot.
Imagine being a new player and getting invited to content way out of your level and expecting to be treated the same as the people carrying you. Like sure hand him some shit gear that no one wants but BiS? Fuck off... He will never get invited to any raid with that kind of reputation...
@@lazyhero2394 He wasn't really a new player. Raids are endgame content so it means he must have been level 60. And getting to level 60 in vanilla / wow classic isn't a tutorial so he should know how to play and you don't play as a "bow rogue"
Blizzard security is horrendous. There was a time many years ago I hadn't played in years and my account was accessed by someone and some gold and items were removed. That was entirely on Blizzard's security. I hadn't received any "phishing" attempts, entered that account info anywhere in years. No possible way for anyone to have gotten that information.
Still sounds like entirely on YOU. It's YOUR responsibility to have your account secure, not Blizzard. In fact, their TOS states they can ban you at ANY TIME THEY DESIRE. You use their service, the account is still THEIRS. Anyway back on topic, you could have made a more difficult password using symbols like @! and a mix of capitals and normal letters. Also depending on how long ago this was, you could have an authenticator added, either physical or through your phone. Noone just randomly gets hacked in a game like WoW. You either left your info somewhere or had too poor of a security and/or made a lot of enemies that would want to clean your account.
Blizzard gave me a two week suspension for saying they have gone woke in trade chat. Being forced to complete a gay quest line in retail, isn’t something I appreciated. Voicing that in trade chat, goes against their policy on harassment. I guess my opinion, is now harassment.
You get a sub dude i was looking for a channel like your to fill the void :P you are much better then the fake persona that was clearly reading of the script that was Warcraft Bibble and another fake wow youtuber i found already forgot him since he was clearly reading of the script instead of using his own ideas.
So Blizzard now has the authority to punish it's player base for not distributing loot according to it's own arbitrary rule set?? Now we have to give loot to appropriate people in raids and dungeons? What other ridiculous suspension reasons are they going to come up with I wonder?
Why does every forget Swifty? The guy, on locked realm, took 3-4 full raid groups into orgrimmar during Cata Era and encouraged others to do the same. Well, over 30 different realms did the same and then they all go into Org and World servers went down (Almost all) He got perma banned and people cried saying "he did nothing wrong" while everyone with a functioning brain know he did a lot wrong
I own my guild, I have owned it for over 10 years, and my guild is like one big family, and when we do dungeons and raids, we don't greed on loot that we don't need. If someone really needs it, we give it to them. Also if we get trash loot that we don't need, we all get together after the run, and see who needs what, if we don't need it.
I am sorry, but if someone sends you a photo that is nsfw, and you open it on stream, and you didn't know what it was, you shouldn't get banned or suspended for it. The other person should be held accountable. That is some bs in my opinion.
TV networks have gotten in trouble for what happens live for decades. It's why Live actually has a delay on TV, so they can catch as many of these things as possible.
Most times, streamers just don't know how to keep themselves out of trouble. Sometimes, they just do things that they don't realize are just plain stupid. Others are the malicious internet sociopaths that revel in takedowns. Whatever the case, people need to be smarter than this. Because you are. Be better.
0:56 i had that happen to me before... blizzard just rolledback my entire account to before the hack (before the first connection from a completely different ip, far from my own address or anywhere i usually connected to) wich was like 24hours lol and they went and tracked the people my acct had traded with and took away the shit my acct gave to them (mostly gold, since most of wow stuff is bound obviously) the entire tthing was 100% resolved in less than 48h from my first ticket lol
I mean, u can see when the messages were send right? when Soda got messaged from a GM.. how can the GMs not put 2 and 2 together. I mean is it that hard xD?
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He won the roll. Giving it to someone else is scamming.
Dont cheat players out of gear they won by using a dps meter as a way to steal what isnt yours.
Dont use mass insults and swear on Twitch
Dont go where you arent supposed to be and dont exploit glitches.
Dont use vpns to log into an MMO
Seems simple to me.
Some added context: The rogue in Payo's raid had paid to be there. Denying this individual their loot was definitely against TOS.
Even if he hadn't paid, he was allowed to roll, so to then AFTER the roll ignore his win was just a dick move.
Paying to be in the raid group is against the TOS too. Technically, so public trades.
It's annoying, but rolling is law.
If you start to mingle with who or what performed better or worse you might as well go back to dkp.
Rogue was there. Rogue was shit but a roll is sacred nonetheless.
@@DB-hs9qt If you pay with in game gold it’s not TOS ... that’s all you see in retail or classic that’s why they say “gold only”
Bad dps in blue dungeon gear rogue should win. Bad dps in pvp gear + pvp spec, no way. The only way you get loot is if no one else has it, that’s fair
Jesus calling MoP as “Back in the day” makes me feel old as hell lol.
I literally came to type MoP Is far from "early days of wow"
@@mrbuddha5263 isnt it like 8 years ago tough?
@@__-fi6xg SHHHHHHHHHHH
My favorite expac
Same
I had something similar happen to me back in Cata that happened to Soda. My account was hacked and the hacker had cleaned me out. Apparently, he was also breaking TOS as I found myself in some weird out of bounds zone when I got control of my account back. A GM got ahold of me wondering what I was doing there, and I had to explain to him that I was hacked. Thankfully, the GM must have confirmed it by looking up the ticket I had sent and ported me back to SW. I eventually got my gear and gold back. For them to ban Soda after he was hacked is weird especially since customer service would have him on record as being hacked.
Tbh it was his fault for letting that tcpo guy even stay there. He should have spoke up like "Hey, this guy isn't repaired, isn't specc'd right, is doing horrible damage, etc. Should we REALLY keep him or let him have any loot?" and let the group decide from there or just kicked him if he was the raid leader. Not "Ok let him roll on loot." and think he won't win the roll (since he clearly did). Because that pretty much is loot scam... dude allowed him to roll, he won, and it got stolen from him because of his terrible dps. Ye don't just do that because someone had low dps...
Going to point this out though. In classic wow replacing people who were not up to snuff was not nearly as easy as it is modern day. Someone would of had to of gone outside the raid and put that they were looking for another member for the raid. This could take quite a large chunk of time to do. Now I do feel like yes he did get screwed over on the loot. Also at that time they used DKP (Dragon Kill Points). DKP could impact your roll score or if you were eligible for roll. This scenario could of been what occurred that made him decide to have everyone reroll it. Now what I believe here is that instead of doing a full reroll it should of just gone to the 2nd person if that was the case. So yeah i do agree it was pretty much a loot scam in that scenario.
@@speedbump9299 No matter what way you look at it, it's not a scam. It's someone undeserving being punished for their stupidity.
But that doesn't make it right and at the least the guy was entitled to the item he won. Banning over it is nonsense, though.
@@Lucifronz really though he should of been told pre rolls he was disqualified from receiving items due to that
@@speedbump9299 Clearly poor handling of the situation by the streamer, I won't deny that.
You can't exclude people from rolling due to poor performance if you don't state before hand that poor performance excludes you from rolling on loot. I'm glad blizzard enforces these loot rules. I wouldn't have wanted that rogue to have gear either, but the rules are there for your benefit even when they don't work in your favor.
So basically all those bans are not the streamers fault, just shows how "customers service" fukking sux in general.
Oh for sure. I found out first hand and my Instagram ban was even more fucked up. I created an Instagram account follow 8 people, that's all I do, I don't use a VPN etc, I don't post anything. All I did was follow 8 other accounts. About 2 weeks later I can't log in and it says my account has been banned for violating TOC. Apparently following people on Instagram is a violation so it's strange that not all accounts are banned then.
Well, besides the loot one.
the crazy thing about the punkrat story, i witnessed it, and on youtube he asked for people to send in tickets to ask him get unbanned, since i liked his content i tried to help him out. and after about a month after i sent the ticket, twitch actually emailed me back and said my ticket was spam (or something i can't remember exactly) and gave ME a soft ban!
Love the "elite" idiots who always say "your dps is to low,you have shit gear" then when gear comes up,they give it to the better geared toons because,hey why not lol.
Yeah I'm not sure how he got in trouble there. Besides maybe allowing a second roll. He clicked need he won. Ban wow for giving it to him.
yeah no, my raid lock, my raid group, my decision to give it to whoever the fuck i want. He wasn't banned because he 'loot scammed', if he had never allowed the person to roll for the gear in the first place then he never would've been banned period. It was the fact that he allowed the person to roll for the loot and then changed his mind after that got him banned.
During the Warlords of Draenor era of the game, when I was leveling one of my accounts, there was a quest boss in the southern part of Gorgrond in this cave, and he uses fear, and if he uses that near the entrance to the cave, your character would path through the wall and fall into the void. This happened to me once and I was confused, but once i gained back control I fell into the void below and got kicked out of the game, I couldnt log back on so I had to submit a ticket. An hour later my account was back on the surface, and within 20 minutes a GM dmed me informing me im about to get a 3 day ban...which i tried to quickly explain its their own gamed mechanics fault before I got kicked off. Legit annoyed at that still. I managed to get an unban by calling support and calling out the bs on how it was handled. But Im pretty sure I wasnt the only one who accidently stumbled upon this.
some gm have profound crest across their forehead,
Brony uwu
Imagine calling the 4th expansion coming out 8 years after Vanilla "The early days"....
I still have memories of jumping off the edge of teldrassil on my first night elf hunter in vanilla.
Ah, good times.
And yet somehow he will be correct over a long enough time span.
Well, for it to be the early days, it just needs to be in the first 50% of expansions.
Vanilla-Shadowlands is 9 expansions, so MoP is exactly in the middle. With Dragonflight, it's now in the first half of expansions and is technically the early days.
Epic Gamer is just sucking up to Soda
I have played in every expansion, still haven't raided once outside quests.
That Payo guy definitely did something, he scammed someone out of their loot.
Yeah he acted like regular asshole, guy should have it even he was bad. He rolled and win he decided not giving it to him and it was taken as loot scuming and he got banned rightfully.
But Why is a matter for a GM? They dont Ban ninja looters either
@@1994BlackBear Because it's in Blizz's best interest to protect the integrity of group looting rules. If they don't, even more assholes like payo ramp up their loot shenanigans making the game ridiculously toxic, then people just stop playing cause they don't want to deal with it. Pretty sure blizz dosen't want to bleed subs because they don't want to deal with assholes who change the rules on the fly to the suit themselves.
Agreed. If they wanted to punish the rogue because they turn up with the 'wrong' spec or played very badly, they should have been kicked before the loot rolls or the veyryboss fight itself. By allowing the rogue to roll for loot, Payo sealed the 'agreement to loot rules' on his end. Changing his mind because the rogue won the roll is not a valid reason to withold loot, as at that point both parties agreed to the same loot rules. Violating these rules is indeed a justified ban.
Sorry for my grammar pfft I thought this was a million subs RUclips channel! You were too good... In explaination,editing,quality and a very good content! YOU WERE SO IMPRESSIVE! I'm one of your supporters now...
Awful management like this is a huge part of why WoW is tanking.
Blizzard hands out bs bans for bogus reasons, but does nothing about trolls and toxic players.
Sounds like the us govt
Random question:
Where is the video (not related to the streamers) content showing, with the troll monk fighting on what appears to be a beachhead? Why do I not recognize this place?
It’s fort daelin in stormsong valley, if it’s the one I’m thinking of, should say on minimap
GM is like the dad who opens your door and just stares at you and you wonder what you did wrong.
"...the earlier days of wow during mists of pandaria"
Seriously?
Ikr
vanilla, tbc and maybe wotlk, but pandaria!?
lol MOP "good ol days" "security is better now" Bro, they had authenticators since 2008.
Raid loot scam, that's funny because you try to report that now the GM laughs at you and says "we can't help that, run it again"
Mop aint the early days of wow
I know, saying that makes me feel old as hell 😂
Lolol
Yeah, not even close
3 expansions before 4 expansions since. It’s earlier than not and every year it gets more and more accurate to call it the early days. When we are 12 expansions in pandaria will be considered early days.
Someone on the server got silenced for calling someone an "Ungreatful Swine"
The stupidest thing about WoW and Login for me is the fact that the one who is online at that moment gets kicked...i mean how fucked up is this. its like getting kicked out of you vehicle while driving and someone else will drive away xD
Getting Banned < Getting Banned, on Live Stream
Those first two entries make it apparent Blizzard still really sucks at their job. Specifically the GMs.
Blizzards are the biggest assholes nowadays when it comes to customer service. Yea, when it comes to EA you can't even contact them and they are still doing better job by not doing it.
Twitch is weird with their rules sometimes. I've seen twitch partners say the "N" word live on stream. And not even get a slap on the wrist. Awhile ago, someone in my VC slipped and said the "N" word, and thankfully I wasn't banned. However, Twitch contacted me, told me I need to inform those who are in VC with me what they can't say while I'm live. And deleted my broadcast. Selective sometimes I've noticed....
Its less selective and more of "rules for thee but not for me" nonsense. Twitch admins can apparently say whatever they hell they want but the twitch users get screwed.
Dude got banned for using Addblocker, sad are the times we live in
The words early days of WoW and pandaria don't belong in the same sentence 😂😂😂
why didnt you include reckful who got banned for account sharing?
im glad he got banned for not giving loot to the guy who won
6:50 mage casting fireball on fire immune boss
Nef has never been fire immune. He is highly resistant to Shadow/Fire - But he is far from Immune. World of Logs can show you parses of Fire Mages/Warlocks doing damage to Nef - And even Geddon/Rag in MC.
Nef - Fire Mage:
classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/1002#boss=617&class=Mage&spec=Fire
Rag - Fire Mage:
classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/1000#boss=672&class=Mage&spec=Fire
i like how people have the need to censure literally saying "the N word" LMAO,god help us all
The video should be renamed to 5 WoW Streamers Who Got BANNED for BS reasons. None of these "offenses" are actual offenses but overzealous moderators and poorly designed bots. The twitch ones are especially aggravating because you can argue that a WoW GM cannot reasonably browse through hours of logs to determine how guilty or not guilty you are but twitch mod can literally just watch 10 seconds of a clip and immediately judge if it was intentionally malicious or not.
Doing low dps doesn't deserve a punishment, just constructive criticism.
If they consistantly did nothing for a few bosses, it's fine to tell them they are excluded from the drops on future bosses. They aren't ready for the raid and shouldn't be taking gear from people who did do the work to gear up properly.
But you can't let someone roll and then not give the item to the winner.
Screw context. Get me my HAMMER!!!
Pilav did not get banned for saying the N-word. It was one of his slip-ups on that stream, but not the one that got him banned. The reason he got banned was because he criticized another female WoW streamer (i think he called her a twitch thot) in that same stream, and since it was viewed as a personal attack, it got him banned.
that's wow and twitch you get no chance to tell your side your just auto ban without a trial
Earlier days of WoW, during Mists of Pandaria??? Jesus i feel old.
The only streamer that does not get ban and still play wow to this day in Asmongold. Period
Blizzard sales went up because of this guy. He is probably even paid by both twitch and activision for doing it
He talks so much shit about both I doubt it
I thought I would come to the video and see some toxic people getting punished, but all I see is more examples of how shit Blizzard is at dealing with issues.
This is why i would never want to stream too many hackers and dickish people out there just trying to ruin you.
There has been a hardcore raider who griefed a raid group. It was a high level raiding guild. Of the 40 toons only 4 survived the first time. He did it again with a different account to the same guild a little while later. That account got a lifetime ban, but he has multiple accounts. It was streamed and he got a huge bump in viewers both time.
I got banned for 2 days for killing people from a rooftop. Its really easy to get up there but apparently... bannable.
safespotting is considered an exploit now, so yeah its bannable. was quite controversial when blizz first made that decision but no one seems to care about it anymore.
"...very popular in the early days of WoW during Mists of Pandaria.." 😂
None of these Streamers "Got Hacked" They shared log on info with someone who they pissed off. That's how that shit really goes down.
0:25 "The Early days of WoW, during Mists of Pandaria"
Me who joined during vanilla: 👁️👄👁️
You missed the legend: Swifty!!!
3:20 No, if you say that his performance is too low, just exclude him from the raid/boss fight. If you take him into the fight without him agreeing to go without loot beforehand and refuse to give him the loot, you are loot scamming.
And he wasn't getting banned (permanent) but just suspended (temporarily) as you yourself said.
So Twitch ban people for saying one word, but people can have that word in the nick? thats make any sense!
blizzard can ban you for how you choose to roll gear but not for ninjaing gear? what?
My 2 cents is if someone is doing so bad they don't deserve loot, kick them asap, and don't even fight the boss with him there
The monk play is really confusing. Please stop adding that gameplay cause you lack content. It's just annoying to focus on multiple things all the time.
Yea back then one of those keychain authenticators was NOT a very good security method. I was hacked once years ago and discovered all they had to do was get ahold of your email and contact blizz asking for the authenticator to be removed. And they would.
Mists of pandaria is "the early days of wow" ;-; I feel attacked
"The early days of wow in mists of pandaria". Yeah, that's not the early days of WoW.
Given that is like what? 8 years now?
Its kinda old especially in Mmos years tbh
@@darkwhispersstories47 But that doesn't matter. It was the fourth expansion, 8 years after the release of wow. It's hardly in the "early days of wow" given that the game's 16 years old by now.
Content is good but like what’s up with cutting to random leveling and mob grinding instead of just still images.
Doesn’t really fit or make sense at all
Bobby Shull 100% agree
stop putting this random gameplay into your videos pls
I agree. This video fucking sucked.
Soda honestly got lucky all that happened during MoP. It was basically the last xpac that they had real GMs answer phone calls and handle customer support.
Now its all underpaid interns with no perms or bots
@epic gamer
Do u have chat platform
Bro quit the random elemental swirl things in the middle of clips lol, wtf
Yea, what's up with that shit?
Nah, there’s no justification for scamming the roll.
This channel needs to learn the difference between BANNNED and SUSPENDED.
Reckful 😭 where ?
The whole soda hacker thing was really fucking common
Raid loot scam? That's really a thing that blizzard enforces now?
Shit I wish that existed back in wotlk days. I still remember in a nax25 the turning tide dropped, I won the roll and the Raid leader wanted to give it to his buddy instead.
His "reason" for it is that it was reserved if it dropped but between the two of them they didn't tell anybody.
So Skampy on Whisperwind,if you are reading this well over a decade later you can chug on my scrote.
Good new wow channel. Liked and Subbed.
I thought for sure the opening line of this video was ironic
Back in the day during wrath my father's account got hacked by some chinease guy and his stuff and gold taken. After contacting customer service they banned him because the hacker used his account to sell in-game stuff for real life money. Goes to show how inept the customer support is.
You all need to know the difference between suspended and banned.
3 day ban for not giving a bad player gear, that's a bit ridiculous. Payo did nothing wrong.
That's really a dick move but sometimes Blizz will give random players permabans while not telling them why so it could be worse. Also a rogue with PvP talents who came to raid with broken gear and DPSed with a bow should be instakicked, he didn't deserve the rogue loot.
Imagine being a new player and getting invited to content way out of your level and expecting to be treated the same as the people carrying you.
Like sure hand him some shit gear that no one wants but BiS? Fuck off...
He will never get invited to any raid with that kind of reputation...
@@lazyhero2394 He wasn't really a new player. Raids are endgame content so it means he must have been level 60. And getting to level 60 in vanilla / wow classic isn't a tutorial so he should know how to play and you don't play as a "bow rogue"
"early days during mists of pandaria"
Wtf do you call everything before pandaria? The prequel?
Video hasnt even loaded and all i gotta say is, RIP reckful 😢
+1 sub, Nice work DUUUUUDD ! We need more vids like this :)
Blizzard security is horrendous. There was a time many years ago I hadn't played in years and my account was accessed by someone and some gold and items were removed. That was entirely on Blizzard's security. I hadn't received any "phishing" attempts, entered that account info anywhere in years. No possible way for anyone to have gotten that information.
Still sounds like entirely on YOU. It's YOUR responsibility to have your account secure, not Blizzard. In fact, their TOS states they can ban you at ANY TIME THEY DESIRE. You use their service, the account is still THEIRS. Anyway back on topic, you could have made a more difficult password using symbols like @! and a mix of capitals and normal letters. Also depending on how long ago this was, you could have an authenticator added, either physical or through your phone. Noone just randomly gets hacked in a game like WoW. You either left your info somewhere or had too poor of a security and/or made a lot of enemies that would want to clean your account.
@@KodokuSamaa You apparently don't read too well.
And you are absolutely incorrect.
Blizzard gave me a two week suspension for saying they have gone woke in trade chat. Being forced to complete a gay quest line in retail, isn’t something I appreciated. Voicing that in trade chat, goes against their policy on harassment. I guess my opinion, is now harassment.
You get a sub dude i was looking for a channel like your to fill the void :P you are much better then the fake persona that was clearly reading of the script that was Warcraft Bibble and another fake wow youtuber i found already forgot him since he was clearly reading of the script instead of using his own ideas.
The soda thing why didn't they just revert his account/characters/items
Blizzards cs is shitt lol
It's funny that right now it's players that ban blizzard ... 😂🤣
You talk about mists of pandaria as if its ancient 👀👀
you get to know who a person is when he/she plays WoW
This guy saw the Ludwig video about paying someone to make him a good video
So Blizzard now has the authority to punish it's player base for not distributing loot according to it's own arbitrary rule set?? Now we have to give loot to appropriate people in raids and dungeons? What other ridiculous suspension reasons are they going to come up with I wonder?
Glad I haven't played this game in 14 years
I got my account back in 2010 banned for 3 days for naming afroamerican gorilla hunter pet
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Liked for lack of clickbait
3:50 I bet Payo read: 72 hour suspension
HOUR kind of looks like JOUR (French for day)
man that he had a 72 JOUR ban lmfao
SEVANTY TWO DAYS TABARNAK
I don't know this payo guy, but to be honest he is indeed a loot scam. Well deserved ban.
Why does every forget Swifty? The guy, on locked realm, took 3-4 full raid groups into orgrimmar during Cata Era and encouraged others to do the same. Well, over 30 different realms did the same and then they all go into Org and World servers went down (Almost all)
He got perma banned and people cried saying "he did nothing wrong" while everyone with a functioning brain know he did a lot wrong
everyone with a functional brain understands, that its not against the rules to do that
I own my guild, I have owned it for over 10 years, and my guild is like one big family, and when we do dungeons and raids, we don't greed on loot that we don't need. If someone really needs it, we give it to them. Also if we get trash loot that we don't need, we all get together after the run, and see who needs what, if we don't need it.
Who asked?
@@flexxbrosaak5483 You must have a shitty guild?
@@JenniferBuechner who asked?
@@flexxbrosaak5483 Wouldn't you like to know? :)
@@flexxbrosaak5483 Why you being salty? I haven't done anything to you!
I am sorry, but if someone sends you a photo that is nsfw, and you open it on stream, and you didn't know what it was, you shouldn't get banned or suspended for it. The other person should be held accountable. That is some bs in my opinion.
TV networks have gotten in trouble for what happens live for decades. It's why Live actually has a delay on TV, so they can catch as many of these things as possible.
Most times, streamers just don't know how to keep themselves out of trouble.
Sometimes, they just do things that they don't realize are just plain stupid.
Others are the malicious internet sociopaths that revel in takedowns.
Whatever the case, people need to be smarter than this. Because you are. Be better.
For the first one getting banned for a hacking messing with you just sue blizz ain’t putting up with that crap I spent so much money on that game
Tcpo no longer exist because he name change after he reported payo for loot scam.
0:56 i had that happen to me before... blizzard just rolledback my entire account to before the hack (before the first connection from a completely different ip, far from my own address or anywhere i usually connected to) wich was like 24hours lol and they went and tracked the people my acct had traded with and took away the shit my acct gave to them (mostly gold, since most of wow stuff is bound obviously) the entire tthing was 100% resolved in less than 48h from my first ticket lol
lawyers ruin the world
"earlier days of wow during mists of pandaria" ROLF! mists was not "earlier days of wow" .
People get banned on twitch for so small mistakes. But other, female streamer, can even say the N word and get no bann.
I mean, u can see when the messages were send right? when Soda got messaged from a GM.. how can the GMs not put 2 and 2 together. I mean is it that hard xD?
you do a video about WoW Streamers that got banned and Reckful is not included? is this a joke?
Who wears a headband while playing a video game? Looking like a character from an American Pie movies.
Sodapoppin is famous for getting banned online constantly! lol
blame the vpn dont ever take blame for what u might of did