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@Weoo22 The soaring sapphire supreme duckweed I happened upon recently gave me a temporary elevation of my divine sense and allowed me the clarity of mind to put together this video. The effects of the herb have since worn off though, so I make no promises that I will ever be funny again.
@@samuek607 I would like to see a Permanently* Disabled Cultivation MC who lives with the disability throughout the story coming up with ingenious Supernatural Mobility aids, etc....I think could be interesting too if the story's setting was infused with Speculative Evolution.
“Even a dragon will lose to a snake in its lair” “A group of dogs will bully a tiger when it leaves the mountain” “Even a lion uses its full strength to hunt a rabbit” lol all the ones I see constantly
Ironic, considering how the last Monkey that called himself King became so OP that he hard carried his party on their pilgrimage and got promoted to Buddha-tier
Even after watching that amazing cultivation simulator review, my brain still short circuited trying to understand everything in that skit. I think my brain’s mush
You right, completely slipped my mind. And it always turns out that if MC doesn't offend someone, he'll develop heart demons and ruin his future cultivation
Don’t forget the fact the mc is always born at just the right time, for them to attend once in a hundred year auction, thousand year secret realm, ten thousand year battle, million year war etc…
“Oh man, protag-kun is really talented. I would hate to have him as an enemy in the future. So the obvious thing to do is to send our assassins after him.”
Or atleast go do it yourself. If you're threatened by how quickly someone is gaining power. You don't just send people who you think should be only slightly stronger than them. Good idea to give them time to get stronger.
@somethingclever4297 hey Mr big shot immortal ancestors sect master has generic bad guy things he's busy with like plotting scheming and ominously drinking tea! Jokes aside usually the bad guy is trying not to tip off the other strong people to steal protagonists secrets for themselves and advance their own cultivation. A super big shot of probably being watched more closely than qi gathering nobody protagonist
Before the isekai boom, Isekai was my favorite genre. I still love a good isekai that does it well, like Re;zero but man do they scrape the bottom of the barell now.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one either, there's just so much generic garbage in it all that I don't even want to write either of them unless I'm making it super subversive
I have been cultivating the art of turning my brain off to read 100’s of cultivation manhua all at once and have almost ascended to immortality l’m only a half step away from truly understanding the Heavenly Dao
Ah junior brother, you are still pondering upon the the paintings. If you seek guidance from scriptures(novels), you will certainly understand the Heavenly Dao in no time. Listen to this senior brother here, just the passive effects of reading such scriptures may enable your "Turning my Brain Off" art to evolve into a passive skill, ingrained deep into your soul.
I remember reading the first cultivation genre manhua... Main character being a douche, check. Main character beats up and kills hot women, check. Main character has anxiety talking to a woman he likes, check. Main character leveling up all by himself and only give noob advice to his two close friends, check. Main character does evil acts on villain characters, check. Main character wipes out entire side characters using demon arts, check. Main character gets called a pure soul/good guy/pure of heart after massacring all the people, check. Main character becomes divine and transcends physics and achieved nirvana (after killing bunch of people), check.
I think the being in a cliché cultivation world would be the worst thing that could happen, imagine spending 80% of your time with your mind blank absorbing energy (meditating) to achieve a higher realm just so you could continue living in a world full of criminals that would 100% commit the most atrocious acts just to keep meditating for more decades, and at the same time they constantly say it’s because they want to live longer while constantly putting their lives on the line
Btw if you want to read a novel where people actually have braincells and personalities (specially females) I recommend please save our patriarch, that’s just xianxia done right, smart enemies that don’t just risk annihilation every single instance, a smart mc, a strong and smart female lead, flesh out secondary characters and plot, simply one of the best I have read
@@samuek607 but as a wise man would say, thirty years in the east, thirty years in the west, don’t bully the young and poor (god my brain is rotted, there’s no salvation anymore)
Strong female characters do exist in some cultivation novels. The problem is, after the author gives one good character development arc for the female character or for any side characters really, the author forgets about them and either never mentions them again or only have them occasionally appear. If you're looking for great character developments for side characters, I suggest Nightfall and Ze Tian Ji.
Too strong focus on the MC is really the archilles heel of those stories. Side characters hardly get any development whatsoever. All the best shows like Naruto put a lot of focus on the side characters rather then the MC.
@@zealgaming8161 Yeah they focus way too much on the MC in cultivation novels. The starting cast of side characters in cultivation novels are decent imo but they get forgetten pretty quick.
@@Great-Dao-of-EleganceThat's the worst aspect of progression fantasy. Power creep makes it essentially impossible to have any character development outside of the MC. Even Naruto and DBZ suffered from this by how 90% of the side cast became irrelevant in the end
@@xcell_r4thr87 That's why I'm more inclined to a balanced improvements between characters. Stories that have side characters be more active are always more entertaining than having the story solely focus on the main character. That's why people loved One Punch Man and One Piece so much. Saitama isn't always the main focus of the story and it shifts from one side character to the next.
@@kuui9717difference between btth and the others is in btth the girl actually explains why she broke the engagement she wanted to control her own life not because she found the Mc beneath her she would have done the same even if he was still a genius and they even become close after their battle.the copy cats on the other hand simply boil down the girls motivations to he's trash and make her insufferable prideful and vain so you don't feel bad when the Mc beats her up humiliates her and kills her. quite the difference from the original I'd say.
Toxic? I've never read a genre so good for our society. Work hard, get lucky and you might have the ability to... you know... get away with a few things. The winner decides the morals really. And is it really wrong to wipe out a village if they are too weak to have an opinion? What is a wife if not... it seems I've been advised to not continue this sentence.
Not only was your explanation of the yapping and story on point, but it also made me realized just how cliche they are to ever other genre of stories out there. We humans really can't make any new, can we?
What concepts haven't people done yet? It seems like every possible topic to make into a story has already been used at some point in time, so I'm unsure how there can be a completely original work.
@@Lynn-Mae02 The biggest, most obvious one, a person who dies and/or just goes to another world, hell, looking for his wife, cliche isekai plot, all the while we learn petty moral lessons or allegory about life, through his travel. Yes, it might be his own little delusional world, but that counts as isekai
I wouldn’t say wuxia are always better than xianxia, but on average that definitely appears to be the case. The more grounded a title and the more tangible the stakes, the more potential it has to not be dogshit. As for wuxia, the quality just depends on whether the author can actually write anything of substance. If you were to put it on a spectrum(wuxia - xianxia - xuanhuan) the closer a xianxia is to wuxia the less likely it is to massacre brain cells. The farther a xuanhuan is from a xianxia the greater the odds the author came up with something unique that might be worth reading. Reverend insanity is a xianxia that sits pretty close to wuxia on the spectrum which(coupled with good writing) led it to becoming one of the top 5 works in the genre. Lord of the mysteries and the legendary mechanic are xuanhuan that heavily distance themselves from xianxia(in differing ways) allowing their authors to escape many of the associated tropes and plot conveniences
That run down of the plot line of every cultivation story was so good. The only things that would be added later down the line are the MC hiding his power and acting as pathetic as possible so that he will be disrespected and underestimated only then will he proceed to kill everyone who disrespects him and their entire family lineage.
I recently started reading manhwa. It's wild when the translators change halfway through and they start writing in demon tongue. Every time someone is referenced their social status is brought up and half the writing is a literal translation of idioms.
I may have gotten used to idioms by now, but there's really no reason for translators to keep them exactly the same instead of finding reasonable substitutes
I'm not sure what the fact that I recognized most panels and cultivation series in this video says about me... It seems I have trodden the demonic path for too long, Senior Brother
@@joshjo9405 It stands up to me. Even among villain series like Magic Emperor or Heavenly Destined Villain. They mainly fight against protagonist types of characters or people in power. But there mc killed that familly of mortals that was not even threat to him and he did it with such apathy and the way that they depicted it was the most brutal scene that i saw in cultivation manhua. It was told that mortals there are like ants and cultivators are of higher standing. Nobody cares if they die. Also mortals there fear cultivators and don t trust them. It was told in many other manhua about law of the strong but they really didn t show much of it.
You have forgotten about the son in law that has a system or is a recarneted from a immortal or has memories from a past life that give them power ups like are candy.
Ancient Sovereign of Eternity is about the reincarnation of a toptier 9th realm sovereign, and he uses his experience to cheat up the ladder at every opportunity (though other tropes are still atplay, like coming across huge random treasures, every woman falling for him, and the endless diarrhea of terminology spoken whenever alchemy is involved. Still definitely one of my favorite reads, 100% top of the cultivation genre for me lmao
Oh yeah, that one's hilarious. That and Evil God (when translated well) are my absolute favorites. Just the right mix of comedy, coolness, and brainrot.
And that the systems have various types. Talent System Sign-in System Levelling System Skill Grinding System (Liver) Simulation System Interdimensional Chat Group And combinations of the above.
I nearly understood everything in this video, I had sworn off xianxia for years, yet here I am, it seems even after it has changed bed a river still remains a river.
You have already filled the cup with water and the lid is locked its over senior brother brain rot has already infected you no amount of cultivation will save you unless you find a inheritance from a transcended supreme emporor
"My Disciples Are All Big Villains" is a Xianxia series that I really like. It's about a dude who transmigrates into the body of a dying old man who has lost his cultivation, who is actually the leader of an unorthodox sect that has raised many powerful villains, and the few disciples he has left are plotting to betray him and take his treasures. So the story is about this poor guy hiding the fact that he is a weakling at death's door whilst he slowly learns how to cultivate from scratch and disciplines his villainous disciples whilst also securing their genuine loyalty to him and rebuilding his sect. Just felt like putting that out there.
I mean. If you like that, youd probably like most cultivation stories. Its not that unique. I agree that its good but if you want a more comedic cultivation novel, you shouldnt have a hard time finding one
Like genuinely 1 in 100 Wuxia genre stories are good and to be honest it might even be less. I've read so much cultivation garbage I can't believe I somehow haven't cultivated to the next realm by going through so much suffering.
@@liamd8918Some good Wuxia are legend of the northern blade, return of the crazy demon, return of the mount hua sect, doctor’s rebirth, nano machine, and peerless dad.
If there was ever a genre I see as just Dragon Ball copies... Is this. Master Roshi taught that training wasn't just sitting and meditating for hours on end, rather he follow this one "Work hard, Teach Well, Eat and Sleep Plenty and never forget to play!" He believed in all his pupils and never believed they had levels or had to compare each other, the danger came from strong foes, unfortunately Akira left the old philosophy for what modern cultivation became, however he never forgot character development for many of his important characters. Hell look at Tien blasting Cell down, cultivation stories often dismiss all efforts of secondary characters as nothing.
I realized I had a problem when I began to be able to understand Mother Tongue Language (MTL) without experiencing brain Aneurysm 😢 I can never go back 😭
The beginning skit was very good, it taught me my demonic arts aren't polished enough to fully understand demon tounge. I just made myself cringe damn it
@@ALUCARDTWILLIGHTI've gotten to the major accomplishment realm in this endeavor! No idiom or metaphor seems to phase me any longer~ Dear martial brother, please consider embarking on this journey to decipher the meanings of these even most obscure and esoteric sacred texts along side me.
@@ALUCARDTWILLIGHTThe current mtls are more or less readable, but the novels that were translated 5 years ago were so horrendous that I feel like I'm about to manifest a heart demon
The fact that i understand everything every sentence that came out of your mouth without the subtitles, says lot. It seems like this junior brother's experience of the Dao of poison testing has at least some perks. Keep up the good work fellow apprentice senior brother, this junior brother is sure that one day the whole continent and the spirit realm will come to know of your brilliance. But until that time, please excuse this apprentice brother to return back to his dao of poison testing. Farewell. Edit: Holy shit, the fact that I could never connect naruto having the kuubi inside him is equivalent to him having an old grandpa inside him. The most overused brain dead trope.
The subtitles in the beginning skit were funny as heck 🤣🤣😂🙌🏾My roommate started watching 12hr long videos of random cultivation series and from what I saw it felt just as repetitive as isekai, didn't know isekai might be more creative with the new gimmicks every new series with the same circular starting town though.
There are like, 3 sub categories of cultivation (I’m saying this before I watch the vid) we’ve got the regular magic martial arts where the mc starts of a trash but encounters a great inheritance and rises to the top while provoking objectively evil entities and bagging the baddest of bitches (for me they get bonus points if the mc has a clearly inferior yet still comparable brother that has been around since early on instead of him being the sole decent man in the world) We’ve got the reincarnation stories where the mc was a peak existence or an utter waste that got jumped to death, back stabbed, and/or schemed against, but had a chance encounter with an incredible artifact/rare bloodline that let him revive or reincarnate at the lowest realm with objectively the strongest talent in the universe (usually the most talented alchemists as well, and maybe even weapon refining if the author wants to make them the indisputable best) And we’ve got the soul item style cultivation where in addition to martial arts, every one has a ranked spirit in their soul that predetermines their talent and their martial art affinity. This is different from series that have characters develop unique souls as part of their cultivation, as for most people in the story, their soul spirit’s strength is set in stone once they awaken it, but for our mc and maybe a rival that’s meant to be a lasting threat, their unique ability is their spirit can be strengthened natural alongside the typical cultivation technique, requiring them to keep it hidden unless absolutely necessary lest they attract the world’s power houses that want to steal it to break through their own bottlenecks
@@jemm113 it’s a solid story base. Although my mind was on stories like peerless battle spirit and divine soul emperor, solo leveling is a good korean take on the “mc has a unique improvement ability.” With things like solo leveling and a returner’s magic should be special getting anime adaptations, maybe something like tales of demons and gods can get a 2d animated version that’s more consistent with the art style of the manhua than the cg anime
The heavenly jade star immortal dao refining sword saint emperor of the 8th cultivation realm; demonic swallowing spectral soul taoist, is VERY pleased at the mention of cultivation In all seriousness though, the genre's generally very poorly executed as you say. Reverend Insanity (also called master of gu) is a really good one though, the manhua is discontinued and much inferior to the novel sadly, leading to it being quite unknown
I missed the second part of the comment before. I've actually read that manhua, but I never saw the novel so I can't say too much about the difference in quality. It did seem like there was some promise, but it really wasn't long enough for me to make any sure comments on it
I just happened to come across this video and clicked out of curiosity. Your sassy dry humor got me hooked and I enjoyed hearing your breakdown and analysis of the genre. Great video, you earned yourself a new subscriber. Keep up the good work :)
You know you're deep in the Xianxia rabbit hole when you change to a MTL website where the names for everything are different and try to continue reading.
@jorge23483 Oof, I feel a bit called out. I have been on Royal Road reding books about teachers of runes, a hero maked as an idiot, a scary farm chicken, and an evil tree daddy. 100 contribution points per novel named.
@@njnjco I'm going to guess you are referencing Return of the Runebound Professor, Reborn as a Demonic Tree, and Beware of Chicken? No idea about "a hero maked(marked?) as an idiot". Counter challenges: #1: a chest full of tentacles and swords #2: strength 0 vitality 0 agility 0 mana ♾ #3: an inanimate but zealous wave of orange, puns, and mushrooms #4: a cat that carves a lot of runes.
Personally love cultivation manga but you make some incredibly valid points. Would love to see more MCs that work for it like everyone else. Despite disagreeing with certain points, this video was done exquisitely and I had no choice but to like and subscribe! Keep going!
This wandering taoist has come across great fortune it would seem. Respected senior has truly understood the breadth of heaven and earth. At first I was unsure of your lecture, deeming you a frog in a well who drew snakes yet added legs, but it seems this junior had eyes yet did not recognise Mt. Tai. In the time it takes an incense stick to burn, you have given wings to a tiger with the flick of your sleeve, akin to crushing dry weeds and smashing rotten wood. By digesting your profound insights, I would achieve twice the results with half the effort, advancing by leaps and bounds. I have learned that there are indeed mountains above mountains, heavens above heavens. But this daoist has a concern that you may be playing lute for cows, and coax toads seeking swan meat to be cast like a clay ox entering the sea, enduring mountains of blades and seas of fire to find a single hair amongst nine oxen. When I came across this revelation, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. It seems it is finally time to wash my hands in a gold basin, but whilst all of this took some time to describe, it was written in an instant.
The fact that I understood all of this.... 👀 What a magnificent dao lecture fellow daoist, this junior has widened my horizons due to your magnanimous speech, I am sure even the heavenly dao will grant you merit for all your contributions, and may the five elements bless you on your journey
@@Adrian-Trivani which one is it junior? I shall enlighten you on the essence of fellow daoist' lecture, as if left alone you may develop a heart demon on your sea of consciousness
Honestly, the biggest disappointment of the modern day is that, as tools get easier to use to create new things, people get lazier, and entertainment bars get lowered, so it gets even harder to find the good shit. It's gotten to the point where my lazy ass is genuinely writing because I want something good to read.
If you want the hard stuff go to the web novel version of this things, the good ones are mostly the ones who give a spin on the genre or satirize it somewhat though. If you want I can recommend you some hopefully decent webnovels
@@joseignaciomontes5712 my point applies all the harder to webnovels, of which I have read likely thousands. The vast, truly VAST majority are inexcusably shit, though there are a few I truly wish had been published more traditionally, so they might get the recognition they deserve, specifically the Wandering Inn.
Same. Watching a good show gives me inferiority complex. But watching a mid show inspires/motivates me to write, like "that's not how I would've handled that scene or that arc".
Coiling Dragon was my Gateway drug. It wasn't until I was 3000 chapters into Martial God Asura that I knew I had a problem. lol You just got a subscriber. I don't meet too many other black people that read Xianxia and Wuxia.
Stumble upon this video today and honestly, instantly subscribed. Love the humor, analysis and content. I wish you a prosperity for you and your channel!
3:02 I died at that line 😂😂Say what you want about the genre, they cook with their expressions shit like, “that attack amounted to loud thunder but tiny rain” send me
@@samuek607 Hope we'll reach that number soon. btw your videos are incredible and very fun to watch or just listen to while doing something else, keep going you'll be one of the top creators in this space one day!
All I know is how to slap faces, receive the help of an ancient martial master’s spirit, and learn a lost cultivation technique that’s complete hax and will land me like 15 girls or something.
I loved this video honestly, I've akways found the genre of Cultivation to be ridiculous. Would love to see a video about the equally-as-trash genre of "betrayed MC with secretly OP ability gathers a harem and becomes a hero" because that one has to be just as if not more copy+pasted as the cultivation genre.
Thanks for watching and enjoying the video! Could you give examples of the type of story you're describing? Not sure if you mean the betrayal leads to their death and they reincarnate/regress, or just work towards revenge in the same life
@@samuek607 There's a very common trope in Japanese manga specifically that is aimed to make the reader sympathize with the MC and feel bad for them, most often it's the "betrayal" trope which is something like "Main character's party decides MC is useless and leaves him to die in a dungeon" or "MC's best friend kicks him out of party due to thinking his skill is useless" or, somehow also common, "MC's family disowns him because he received a 'useless' skill but it was actually secretly OP". Just like the cultivation genere you described here, the MC in these stories is almost always a man who ends up capturing the hearts of MANY women seemingly effortlessly because this appeals to the typical Japanese teenager's dream of being powerful and attractive to women, further enforcing the toxic Asian stereotype that women are only good for serving men and can never be independant.
@@KiraShizuminah that last part you said is very dumb, I've read some when the women were more useful than the MC, and in Japan even girls are encouraged to becone CEOs.
There are many good cultivation novels with a female protagonist such as "Ascending, Do Not Disturb", "My Disciple Died Yet Again" or "My Master Disconnected Yet Again" and they are some of the best stories I've ever read.
Really liked the beginning. Doing the things where you vocalized the idioms while translating them differently in the text seems like a lot of work and I appreciate the effort put in to pull it off.
@@samuek607 definitely,let's not lie to ourselves by denying that at this point the whole genre is just sets of different characters name filling up a blank bracket in the manuscript
As a veteran cultivation novel and manhua reader plus a writer, from my experience I would say avoid them. I remember the first story I read, True Martial World. Next everything else is just the same. So why am I reading it or even worse writing one? I read a ton of them. And from my experience it’s like a hook. I want to see that moment which I envisioned if I were there. But the author didn’t include it so I searched like a tarnished soul one story to another. Until finally I fed up and started my own story on webnovel to help myself read a better story that I envisioned. I feel that the same is what other manhua writers do. And the worst thing is that our envisions are so big that we sort of intentionally do not add detail. Like the first world the most Xianxia writers show can be arranged such a way that many things can be added. But since MC doesn’t have time lots of stories just skip. Lore, character development everything is missing. Actually the main problem that I figured is to focus on MC. Both Xianxia and Wuxia do this, which basically limits the prospective view of a narrative story. Xianxia Novels can be good if they ever focus on changing the over achieving dream to a modest story of not focusing on MC but also giving focus on every character. And Finally the Masculinity in the series is very sad. True even I sometime think why introduce a women but then degrade her. The main reason is actually even more sad. As most authors are virgin. Although Martial Peaks author actually was a virgin who later married but even he destroyed one of the timeless beauty in his series. The very first story I read True Marital World actually the only story I read who has a pure love. The FMC lost in time and space and probably the half of the series the MC was alone never loving anyone and cultivating alone. He later found her at the very end of the story. At that time I was a noob and thought it was good but then all the harem shit destroyed my taste. Anyway if you read through this many rambling of mine than I advise you too avoid them. No goods come from them even if the story is luckrative. It will destroy your time. But if you still wish to venture please avoid harem genres and anything with long chapter list. Cause none of them are good. If your story is good 600 to 700 chapter is enough. Like Coiling Dragon one of the best shit that ever came from cultivation stories. And if big chapter story I would only recommend Forty Millennium of Cultivation, which is a Scifi story.
Whats your take on "I shall seal the heavens" and "skyfire avenue"? The last one I find quite good cause its shortish and is quite clean of the infinite powerup stuff. Theres a limit
Things I hated about cultivation manga/ novels is that problems starts cause of some Jade beauty, Usually she is what started the problem, and every character tend to be very shallow or arrogant for no reason, every young master is a spoilt brat the main character at times tend to be a hypocrite at times believing himself to be on the side of justice yet next moment he is causing a massacre killing innocents along in the process and still claim he is the good guy. Also Its doesnt matter who the person is as long as the mc doesnt like the person it would always be that person was the worst person or some stuff like that.
Read some good one, those usually the older one, like Record of a mortal's journey to immortality, Perfect World, A Will Eternal, Renegade Immortal, Jade Dynasty all doesn't have these problem. Newer novels nowadays are mostly just copy the formula of those succeeded old novel. Such as the one here you mentioned, it is a copy of what Battle through the heavens did, but none of them able to reach or go into details on the incident like Battle through the heavens manage, they all just seem like cheap copy.
About the justice thing.. I don't know what you are reading, but no MC in cultivation I read consider himself some saint or seek justice. Cultivation is about the world of food chain, it is wild and harsh, the strongest survive, it has nothing to do with justice, good or bad.
It saddens me, when one finally finds gold among the dirt, another takes opportunity to steal such treasure and strip the finder from their respective worth. The work titled "Master of Gu" serves such an example, the uncontinued masterpeice, put downed, and forgotten. Such masterpiece that could never be rivaled by the like of Soul Land
If we are talking RI: I like to think of RI as something different then Mana or Cultivation stuff. If we are talking Fated Villan: IT WAS PUT DOWN ????
Of course there are tons of awful xianxia stories, that’s because the good ones inspire others to write their own, and considering the general lack of quality assurance, you get some really annoying ones. Not everyone should be an author, just like not everyone should be (insert literally any other profession )
@@gruenekatze0since I've read everything I clarify. Soul land is the story of the hidden weapons guy that reincarnates in the world where cultivations is through wild animals and the MC had a spirit thing that was a blade of grass. The Fated villain is garbage because everything is too easy, everything is the system. He's too strong and the challenges too easy. Trash teir.
@@Person_Not_Known Him being to strong is the point of the Story. He is the end Boss. And relying on the system is important for his story, because it skips a lot of the standard cultivation stuff. Recently he hasn't even been using it much. (I only read human translation) That said I do agree that there are plenty reasons to hate it like: -his disposition toward women -his ultimate ability to lower the IQ of everyone around him to room temperature -he faces no real danger -the exaggerations -etc.
Rip Reverend Insanity surprised the CCP did not put it down after chapter 127 (of the novel), our boy Fang Yuan was a bit too spicy for the boys at the CCP but somehow he managed to make it all the way to 2334.
Bro it's like you just read through my mind this pleasure it feels so good to hear every single word coming from your mind But sorry to disappoint you i tried to free myself from this curse formation but unfortunately I understood every single thing you just said 😢
20:23 I wanted to say that "I am the fated villain" that appears at this moment is slightly different from a typical xianxia as it kinda plays into and with the clichés but from another point of view it fits very well into your description.
I'm really glad you've made the distinction between wuxia and xanxia. I also find xanxia to be absolutely indecipherable at times, but it's really funny because literally the one xianxia that I somewhat enjoy, "martial peak" pops up in this video multiple times and, I agree , is absolutely egregious with trying to understand what's happening. I'd love to see a video solely about wuxia!
Honestly the new subganre of xiamxia of normal cultivator is quite refreshing. Cultivation Nerd is a bit new but it seems to lack most of your compaints so far.
@@demonclaw5608an actual villain not some transmigrator with a system to cuck the so called “protgonist” and gain op skills. I want to read someone who is actually evil, smart and cunning.
@@JohnDoe-vv9zp Reverend Insanity is THE best villain novel. Nothing I can recommend can ever surpass RI in terms of Plot, character writing, world building, etc. It can get quite a bit dark at times.
One thing I've made clear to myself when looking for a manga/manha/manhwa is that if there's "cultivation" in the title, then don't read it, it will most likely be boring, not funny and generic as F. I know, Naruto, DBZ, even One Piece and JJK does use this concept but when it comes to japanese manga, I generally happened to see that they uses it in a way better way. A way that it's funny/cool/not FREAKING BORING
only exception is top tier providence (has cultivation in alternate title) but im just a glazer for my xianxa goat reverend insanity is peak but the manhua was worse than the novel
@Pearse-gj6bc and the later ergen novels as well, from my experience manhua's generally do a bad job at representing the actually good novels. The RI manhua was so shit that I even questioned if it was based on the novel.
I've devoured more tales than there are stars in the night sky, with my appetite as insatiable as a dragon seeking the path to immortality. My reading speed is like a cultivator in the Nascent Soul stage, racing through realms with the swiftness of a lightning tribulation-100 chapters or more in the blink of an eye. When it comes to the cultivation world, I'm drawn to the Wuxia path like a moth to a flame, the balance of martial prowess and wisdom resonating with me like a harmonious Dao. Xianxia, on the other hand, is my go-to when I'm just passing through the Mortal Realm, scrolling through those endless power-ups like an ancient sage brushing aside mere mortals. Realms like Pinnacle of Immortal Emperor or Ten Divinities Peak Nine-Star Martial Deity? Those are my guilty pleasures, the divine pills I can't seem to resist, always pulling me back for another taste of their absurd, otherworldly elixirs.
You failed to talk about how the personality of the protagonist and antagonist also don't always correspond to being a hero or a villain. The protagonist is the main character but they don't always behave as a hero, and often behave just as bad if not worse as the villain. MC seduces Girl but is more than willing to throw them away once he achieves the next realm, or gains the next treasure, giving only the surface excuse that they will return. Or how in the quest for revenge the MC lets hundreds of thousands die at the hands of others because of some consequence to his actions, only to swoop in and "save the day" gulling people into worshiping him. Or the worst example as the MC will murder the entire sect or clan even if they only really wanted to kill one person, everyone else is just tangentially related to the "villains"
I Shall Seal the Heavens is what got me. Something about the MC remaining a violent kleptomaniac no matter how his outlook on life and immortality changed tickled me (in a good way) and I've been trapped since
Er Gen's novels do, in fact, slap. I've read ISSTH and am currently half-way through RI (and have AWE lined up for when I finish RI sometime next month at my current pace). They really scratch the itch I got from my first cultivation novel, RMJI.
@@Tiareth It is something I have heard a lot about and considered starting after I finish the novels I'm currently reading. I will almost definitelly read it at some point, thanks for the recommendation!
LMFAO, THE CLASSICAL MUSIC PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND WAS MY FAVORITE PART OF THIS 🤣🤣 Don't remember the names of every piece but gah damn it just elevated this to a whole new level
I never read any work from this genre (I never knew what exactly it was), yet I found this video in my recommendations. I was entertained but am now even more hesitant to check out cultivation works
Hmm, if I had any advice to give, Senior Brother... While the comparison with more popular works is a good way to lead the audience towards your point, using actual plot points from actual books/manhua might've also helped. Maybe consider a video analyzing a single story as a companion video? The thumbnail/title are pretty good, but they did draw me in because I knew the genre already. Leaning into that by using actual in-genre sources might be good. I did love the skit, good work on that. Another interesting topic might be the weird eugenic bloodline obsession baked into the genre.
My main point of complaint on the genre, other than repetitive, is that most of the stories doesn't seem to even know how cultivation works other than workout everyday and read mantra to get stronger. I really love the concept of cultivation, a way for a mortal to ascend to higher being like evolution in isekai but through a spiritual and martial discipline. It makes sense for the ungrateful nature of human to be wanting more. I want to make a similar story, but I'm a little afraid that it would appropriate the culture it came from. Also, the fact that the stories can go on until the end of the world. I know a lot of xianxia story have an ending, most of them that have a novel version, but it's usually after very long and very repetitive events. Addition : If you would like to read some xianxia story, i don't know if you'd like it, but Tales of Demons and Gods atleast seems a bit different with the incorporation of regression plot line and they try to make the women not just a damsel in distress. Also there's Cultivator Chat Group, a story about Song Shuhang, a mere mortal who accidentally added to a group of cultivator. The story is more comedy, but it reminds me with Yozakura Family because how they incorporate the wild side of the story(Spies and Cultivators) into modern world. There's also Soul Land. I don't know if this can be called xianxia because it have a quite different system and seemed a lot more like isekai with a touch of cultivation.
I like "Martial art master" from same author of cultivators chat room for no other fact that the story don't expand to "the end of the world" territory
don't be. "appropriating" the cultivation genre is a braindead take and can never be done because they already appropriate cultivation into a fast food genre (isekai is a fast food genre imo). Lots already mock it by using systems.
Everyone who's familiar with the genre should read I Am the Fated Villain. It destroyed all the tropes and cliches while also being a great cultivation story.
I've stayed away from Cultivation as a whole. My few attempts to try a web comic in the genre ran into the frustrating wall of questionable translations and vague unstructured visuals. I do enjoy Wuxia cinema though, and it's kind of sad learning that Xianxia is basically Wuxia with the fun parts removed. Particularly the misogyny, Wuxia is surprisingly flexible with who can be powerful - age, sex, and status often don't matter - which gives stories a great deal more life and colour to them.
Senior brother, your videos seem to me the rather exquisite type. For me to come up with improvement suggestions would be like mouse trying to lift up a castle
My brother in Dao, do the Murim Genre And I really liked how the video was edited (even the bits with Photoshop, you made me chuckle), your humor was very enjoyable, and you're clearly knowledgeable of the genre.
I don't know if it's intentional or not but everytime you use the photo of Gu Changge, the exact opposite of what you are describing is happening. (The manhua is "I am the fated villain")
It was half-intentional. I knew the context, but for the purposes of editing, since he's a bad guy, I had him visually represent the typical antagonists
I still really dislike people going ''Oh hey this genre is bad'' and then their reasoning is just listing bad executions of a genre. That is not a genre being bad, you are just listing bad examples of a genre. Like yeah, we do get a lot of bad Xianxia stories translated. So what? We have a lot of bad stories in most genres. Funnily enough the dude conveniently ignores stories in that genre that sre actually good or do stuff different. Because there are indeed unique ones and also well written ones. They are not even hard to find, this dude just ignores them.
@@Niffunn if you sai so, Martial world is the only novel that properly explains cultivation(that i know about), ri lacks in that aspect so I think Martial world is better for beginners.
I read a few of these as light novels before. I laughed so hard once you explained the plot points with the skit as well later when talking about idioms.
I'll convince you Xianxia has a lot of potential with a single title. Try reading the novel "A Regressor's Tale of Cultiavtion". I know, I know, the title turns on most red flags imaginable, but I swear, it's absolute peak. Right now it's a novel only, but a manhwa is in the workings. I recommend reading the novel with all my heart. It's the single proof that it's just the authors that are lazy and do not try hard enough to bring out the potential of XianXia.
Demon tongue? Fam has never advanced beyond the grade school realm. Language is imagined and propagated. Skit was funny and the cliché/plot holes is really needed though.
Look man I'm an American planning on writing my own Murim/Cultivation story. So any additional references is helpful. Also, the comment section is feeding me goodies.
Sorry for the sketchy audio, ripped apart my vocal cords so I couldn't re-record 😭😭😭
Make sure to let me know something you liked/disliked so I can improve my future videos!
No fr you were 🍳🔪!! Did you cultivate your humour? 😂😂
@Weoo22 The soaring sapphire supreme duckweed I happened upon recently gave me a temporary elevation of my divine sense and allowed me the clarity of mind to put together this video. The effects of the herb have since worn off though, so I make no promises that I will ever be funny again.
can you link all manhwa/anhime that you included in this video?
Specificly at 25:49
20:51 this division a minute to late, don't you think?
@@samuek607 I would like to see a Permanently* Disabled Cultivation MC who lives with the disability throughout the story coming up with ingenious Supernatural Mobility aids, etc....I think could be interesting too if the story's setting was infused with Speculative Evolution.
"With no tiger in the mountain, even a monkey can call himself king"
Actual peak writing
"One mountain cannot hold two kings " goes even harder
“Even a dragon will lose to a snake in its lair”
“A group of dogs will bully a tiger when it leaves the mountain”
“Even a lion uses its full strength to hunt a rabbit”
lol all the ones I see constantly
Ironic, considering how the last Monkey that called himself King became so OP that he hard carried his party on their pilgrimage and got promoted to Buddha-tier
Lets not forget the classic "Frog in the well..."
-"You don't know how high the sky is"
I hate how during the cultivation skit i understood everything they were yapping about, it might be over for me guys 💀
Amazing Cultivation Simulator's review by SsethTzeentach prepared me for this.
@night1952 LOVED that video
The hazards of reading large amounts of machine translated novels.
@@samuek607should of told it like it is man wuxia is just chinese sword fantasy!
Even after watching that amazing cultivation simulator review, my brain still short circuited trying to understand everything in that skit. I think my brain’s mush
Having read 500+ Cultivation stories I agree that the majority are disappointing garbage, but I will read 900 more searching for the few good ones.
You are just a dopamine addict
The few good ones are always worth it, and we can all tell when a novel will be trash pretty quickly
then can u enlight us with your top 10?
@@graine_etourdie rise of humanity, tales of herding gods, legend of the great sage, unseathed/jian lai, reverend insanity
The fact that there isn't even 10 says a lot @@Mylittlebrotheristoostrong
Him: Excuse my editing
Me: It can't be that bad
*screen recording of photoshop*
Me: I was not familiar with your game.
I had fun, and that's all that matters.
Fun that is a matter of live. I can't do idioms....
aiz... junior you unenlightend you must improve your comprehension!
@@samuek607honestly that was top tier editing
@@samuek607it was amazing and I loved every second of the skit ❤
You forgot to mention:
If male character doesn't grovel an worships...I mean admires and respects MC from second 0 he is automatically a villain.
You right, completely slipped my mind. And it always turns out that if MC doesn't offend someone, he'll develop heart demons and ruin his future cultivation
That's so true ...
Like Sasuke in the original manga?
Ok now that sounds like an annoyance and then some
@@samuek607I actually read a a decent cultivation web novel but I doubt u will be interested
Don’t forget the fact the mc is always born at just the right time, for them to attend once in a hundred year auction, thousand year secret realm, ten thousand year battle, million year war etc…
And the only person in hundreds of trillions to have a super special and specific ability
To be fair, this is a matter of 'it could have happened to anyone, and the story pays attention to the one it did happen to'.
Lmaooo the once in a 100 years place that can only be entered by young people
@@Caio-ow5tm sounds like martial peak type stuff
@@czemuniestawiaszoporu I was thinking about The Eternal Supreme (highly recommend tbh)
“Oh man, protag-kun is really talented. I would hate to have him as an enemy in the future. So the obvious thing to do is to send our assassins after him.”
This is a very sound strategy in reality.
Unfortunately, the protag knows bullshit-fu.
@@devranyilmaz9806bullshit-fu!? 😂😂🤣
Or atleast go do it yourself. If you're threatened by how quickly someone is gaining power. You don't just send people who you think should be only slightly stronger than them. Good idea to give them time to get stronger.
@somethingclever4297 hey Mr big shot immortal ancestors sect master has generic bad guy things he's busy with like plotting scheming and ominously drinking tea!
Jokes aside usually the bad guy is trying not to tip off the other strong people to steal protagonists secrets for themselves and advance their own cultivation. A super big shot of probably being watched more closely than qi gathering nobody protagonist
@@lordgod9958 Isn't Mr big shot immortal ancestors sect master capable of moving fifty million times faster than the speed of light?
Senior has truly walked down the dao of cultivation manga
I have received a few insights in my years, but consider myself not an expert
The Inside jokes here are both funny and Agonizing,mostly agonizing
@samuek607 junior has great talent, but if you truly want to gain enlightenment read reverend insanity. This is seniors greatest advice.
@@samuek607The only good ones are comedy types and technically. Shadow slave has become a cultivation novel, but technically not.
I like comedy. And I want in bad...
>hates cultivation garbage
>hates isekai garbage
I have…. Found my people….
"HAZAH!" We say in unison
Before the isekai boom, Isekai was my favorite genre. I still love a good isekai that does it well, like Re;zero but man do they scrape the bottom of the barell now.
Watch out man, the 13 year olds will come after you. You must be courting death.
Yet I still read it. I am a fallen one.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one either, there's just so much generic garbage in it all that I don't even want to write either of them unless I'm making it super subversive
I have been cultivating the art of turning my brain off to read 100’s of cultivation manhua all at once and have almost ascended to immortality l’m only a half step away from truly understanding the Heavenly Dao
The brainrot is real people
@@Seraphinamagi more like at this point it's required condition
😂😂😂😂
Manga? Try reading the novels!
Ah junior brother, you are still pondering upon the the paintings. If you seek guidance from scriptures(novels), you will certainly understand the Heavenly Dao in no time. Listen to this senior brother here, just the passive effects of reading such scriptures may enable your "Turning my Brain Off" art to evolve into a passive skill, ingrained deep into your soul.
I remember reading the first cultivation genre manhua...
Main character being a douche, check.
Main character beats up and kills hot women, check.
Main character has anxiety talking to a woman he likes, check.
Main character leveling up all by himself and only give noob advice to his two close friends, check.
Main character does evil acts on villain characters, check.
Main character wipes out entire side characters using demon arts, check.
Main character gets called a pure soul/good guy/pure of heart after massacring all the people, check.
Main character becomes divine and transcends physics and achieved nirvana (after killing bunch of people), check.
They can't keep getting away with this!
A lot of them yes, not all of them.
@@szeth5287 ah yes Son Goku the pure-hearted psychopath killer.
Name?
Sounds like the Bhagavad-Gita, Journey to the West, Lotus Sutra; basically, every Hindu/Buddhist/Sanatan Dharma myth ever.
I think the being in a cliché cultivation world would be the worst thing that could happen, imagine spending 80% of your time with your mind blank absorbing energy (meditating) to achieve a higher realm just so you could continue living in a world full of criminals that would 100% commit the most atrocious acts just to keep meditating for more decades, and at the same time they constantly say it’s because they want to live longer while constantly putting their lives on the line
Btw if you want to read a novel where people actually have braincells and personalities (specially females) I recommend please save our patriarch, that’s just xianxia done right, smart enemies that don’t just risk annihilation every single instance, a smart mc, a strong and smart female lead, flesh out secondary characters and plot, simply one of the best I have read
When you point out how little of a cultivator's life is spent *living*, it makes me realise how pointless their entire cycle really is😭
@@samuek607 but as a wise man would say, thirty years in the east, thirty years in the west, don’t bully the young and poor (god my brain is rotted, there’s no salvation anymore)
thats IF you can cultivate
most people in the world cant cultivate,so most of the time youre just a normal human living in this world
@@danang5 not sure if that’s a blessing or a curse to be honest
My favorite idiom is "If I fail to "X" then I'll change my last name to yours and call you father"
It's funny because it fails 100% of the time
I'll write my name backwards (or upside down).
Scratch that it's "I'll change my last name and call you uncle"😂😂
@@samuek607 Depends on if they're saying it to the MC or not...
@@alexdhamptrue
Normal cultivation series protagonist: I have trained hard and mastered cultivation in order to beat you.
Jack: Nanomachines, son!
There is a Murim comic called Nanomachine it's fun
@@WildArtistslThat's a wuxia
This video is more about Xianxia
@@gaelurquiz5755 Watch the video
@@gaelurquiz5755wuxia martial art
Xianxia becoming an immortal heavenly venerable of the heaven who can one shoot universe
@@marshallterrance2.035so a rpg or an ifle game, got it
Strong female characters do exist in some cultivation novels. The problem is, after the author gives one good character development arc for the female character or for any side characters really, the author forgets about them and either never mentions them again or only have them occasionally appear. If you're looking for great character developments for side characters, I suggest Nightfall and Ze Tian Ji.
Too strong focus on the MC is really the archilles heel of those stories.
Side characters hardly get any development whatsoever.
All the best shows like Naruto put a lot of focus on the side characters rather then the MC.
@@zealgaming8161 Yeah they focus way too much on the MC in cultivation novels. The starting cast of side characters in cultivation novels are decent imo but they get forgetten pretty quick.
@@Great-Dao-of-EleganceThat's the worst aspect of progression fantasy. Power creep makes it essentially impossible to have any character development outside of the MC. Even Naruto and DBZ suffered from this by how 90% of the side cast became irrelevant in the end
@@xcell_r4thr87 That's why I'm more inclined to a balanced improvements between characters. Stories that have side characters be more active are always more entertaining than having the story solely focus on the main character. That's why people loved One Punch Man and One Piece so much. Saitama isn't always the main focus of the story and it shifts from one side character to the next.
bro forgot the scene of the family arranged marrage reject him and he swear to get stronger to revenge
Battle through the heavens
@@sleepydude9117 yeah, and a bunch of them spawned after that
I think that counts for rejection and revenge
@@kuui9717difference between btth and the others is in btth the girl actually explains why she broke the engagement she wanted to control her own life not because she found the Mc beneath her she would have done the same even if he was still a genius and they even become close after their battle.the copy cats on the other hand simply boil down the girls motivations to he's trash and make her insufferable prideful and vain so you don't feel bad when the Mc beats her up humiliates her and kills her. quite the difference from the original I'd say.
-And your master Inside the ring
Toxic? I've never read a genre so good for our society. Work hard, get lucky and you might have the ability to... you know... get away with a few things. The winner decides the morals really. And is it really wrong to wipe out a village if they are too weak to have an opinion? What is a wife if not... it seems I've been advised to not continue this sentence.
You're going to be put on a list 😭
You guys need a collab
"Mass murder" is how the weak call when the strong are just exerting dominance.
Kids are cruel. And I am very in touch with my inner child!
mere childbearer am i right folks?
Not only was your explanation of the yapping and story on point, but it also made me realized just how cliche they are to ever other genre of stories out there. We humans really can't make any new, can we?
What concepts haven't people done yet? It seems like every possible topic to make into a story has already been used at some point in time, so I'm unsure how there can be a completely original work.
@@Lynn-Mae02 By that logic, the old work: Dantes inferno would technically be classified as an isekai.
@@bigezfire2390 What similarities does it have to portal fantasy?
@@Lynn-Mae02 The biggest, most obvious one, a person who dies and/or just goes to another world, hell, looking for his wife, cliche isekai plot, all the while we learn petty moral lessons or allegory about life, through his travel.
Yes, it might be his own little delusional world, but that counts as isekai
@@bigezfire2390 Makes sense.
I wonder what concepts HAVEN'T people done or seen yet though.
cultivation and isekai fighting each other to know which is more garbage:
The fight no one wanted to see🔥🔥🔥
Don’t forget koren dungeon and regression!
The shittiest genre in history vs the shittiest genre of today.
fun fact! there are isekai xianxia stories out there that are (imo) kinda good!
What if I told you that I now one with cultivation + Isekai + returnee + system?
Humour is S-tier
I promise I'm not usually this funny.
@@samuek607 depression must be at an all time high😭😭😭😭
I just made a cultivation video. Of course it is😭
You took away all my brain cells.
@@MohammadGhaderi-ut3pu There was a secret warning about that at the start of the video. Can't be held responsible.
Senior Brother, this video is a marvel among marvels, truly a treasure among the mundane. Your skills are as boundless as the heavens!
my man nailed every type of cultivation manga, is scary how right he was about the "bad" cultivation manga and the "good"
Star Wars
@@lewakar so true
I wouldn’t say wuxia are always better than xianxia, but on average that definitely appears to be the case. The more grounded a title and the more tangible the stakes, the more potential it has to not be dogshit. As for wuxia, the quality just depends on whether the author can actually write anything of substance.
If you were to put it on a spectrum(wuxia - xianxia - xuanhuan) the closer a xianxia is to wuxia the less likely it is to massacre brain cells. The farther a xuanhuan is from a xianxia the greater the odds the author came up with something unique that might be worth reading. Reverend insanity is a xianxia that sits pretty close to wuxia on the spectrum which(coupled with good writing) led it to becoming one of the top 5 works in the genre. Lord of the mysteries and the legendary mechanic are xuanhuan that heavily distance themselves from xianxia(in differing ways) allowing their authors to escape many of the associated tropes and plot conveniences
@@lewakar Finaly someone that get it.
It was extremely accurate. Terrifyingly so.
3:20
"Consolidated my Foundations" can be most easilly translated to "assigned my stat points"
I mean if they don't they lose all the progress they just did
Add potentially ruin their cultivation foundation
Weak foundation can limit you growth
I love how all of these comments under the correction are understandable get on the other hand are complete gibberish nonsense
@@lenny3735 welcome to wuxia/xianxia.
That run down of the plot line of every cultivation story was so good. The only things that would be added later down the line are the MC hiding his power and acting as pathetic as possible so that he will be disrespected and underestimated only then will he proceed to kill everyone who disrespects him and their entire family lineage.
Another thing that I have noticed in this culturation manhua or Chinese isekai is The system and getting points by fu****g with people's emotions
Spare me Great Lord has entered the chat.
Xie Yan enters the chat
the best executed one is "I an an evil god" best part, it's written by a woman
ultimate scheming system is also pretty hilarious.
@@roywempor8395 agreed
Keyboard immortal is just this and many many women you don't really see for like a dozen or a hundred chapters and then their back.
Y'know what's worse than cultivation?
Urban fantasy cultivation.
Reincarnated Urban demon king from campus...
Omg you’re spouting nothing but truth
Oh my god. The China good, US and all countries in the world bad novels?
Oof
Return from immortal world, I'm a reincarnated immortal
Bruhh, the amount of brainrot in these types of novels are astounding
I recently started reading manhwa. It's wild when the translators change halfway through and they start writing in demon tongue. Every time someone is referenced their social status is brought up and half the writing is a literal translation of idioms.
I may have gotten used to idioms by now, but there's really no reason for translators to keep them exactly the same instead of finding reasonable substitutes
I'm not sure what the fact that I recognized most panels and cultivation series in this video says about me...
It seems I have trodden the demonic path for too long, Senior Brother
Honestly, my favorite was Gu daoist master. But that one was banned by the Chinese government cause the MC was a villain.
@@joshjo9405reverend insanity?
@@khaibeststudio yep. also, it still exist just as a light novel. pretty sure its been finished for a while too
@@President-of-Funny from what I know it was left uncompleted
@@joshjo9405 It stands up to me. Even among villain series like Magic Emperor or Heavenly Destined Villain. They mainly fight against protagonist types of characters or people in power. But there mc killed that familly of mortals that was not even threat to him and he did it with such apathy and the way that they depicted it was the most brutal scene that i saw in cultivation manhua. It was told that mortals there are like ants and cultivators are of higher standing. Nobody cares if they die. Also mortals there fear cultivators and don t trust them. It was told in many other manhua about law of the strong but they really didn t show much of it.
You have forgotten about the son in law that has a system or is a recarneted from a immortal or has memories from a past life that give them power ups like are candy.
Ancient Sovereign of Eternity is about the reincarnation of a toptier 9th realm sovereign, and he uses his experience to cheat up the ladder at every opportunity (though other tropes are still atplay, like coming across huge random treasures, every woman falling for him, and the endless diarrhea of terminology spoken whenever alchemy is involved.
Still definitely one of my favorite reads, 100% top of the cultivation genre for me lmao
Oh yeah, that one's hilarious. That and Evil God (when translated well) are my absolute favorites. Just the right mix of comedy, coolness, and brainrot.
Reverend insanity has this but has the mc still take enormous risks. Knowing the future without being able to plan is pointless
@@miles3101dude its so slop... and i ate it up mmm that shit was to gooooood👌
And that the systems have various types.
Talent System
Sign-in System
Levelling System
Skill Grinding System (Liver)
Simulation System
Interdimensional Chat Group
And combinations of the above.
I nearly understood everything in this video, I had sworn off xianxia for years, yet here I am, it seems even after it has changed bed a river still remains a river.
You have already filled the cup with water and the lid is locked its over senior brother brain rot has already infected you no amount of cultivation will save you unless you find a inheritance from a transcended supreme emporor
"My Disciples Are All Big Villains" is a Xianxia series that I really like. It's about a dude who transmigrates into the body of a dying old man who has lost his cultivation, who is actually the leader of an unorthodox sect that has raised many powerful villains, and the few disciples he has left are plotting to betray him and take his treasures. So the story is about this poor guy hiding the fact that he is a weakling at death's door whilst he slowly learns how to cultivate from scratch and disciplines his villainous disciples whilst also securing their genuine loyalty to him and rebuilding his sect.
Just felt like putting that out there.
Done reading it yesterday, and i can say 100% recommended
It's over for you kid. The West has truly Fallen😔😔😔⛓️👨🏿🦲⛓️💔💔💔💔🙋🏻♂️🙋🏻♂️🙋🏻♂️🙋🏻♂️🙋🏻♂️🙋🏻♂️🙋🏻♂️🙋🏻♂️
this story is more appealing for its comedy and the story plot is not bad
Was good for the first few hundred chapters but got generic and boring after a while
I mean. If you like that, youd probably like most cultivation stories. Its not that unique. I agree that its good but if you want a more comedic cultivation novel, you shouldnt have a hard time finding one
Like genuinely 1 in 100 Wuxia genre stories are good and to be honest it might even be less. I've read so much cultivation garbage I can't believe I somehow haven't cultivated to the next realm by going through so much suffering.
May I know what that 1 in 100 Wuxia story is? I don’t wanna have to read 99 garbage stories
@@liamd8918Some good Wuxia are legend of the northern blade, return of the crazy demon, return of the mount hua sect, doctor’s rebirth, nano machine, and peerless dad.
@@liamd8918 A Regressor’s Tale of Cultivation is a good cultivation novel, u you should give it a try by reading at least the firsts 100 chapters
Maybe check out Wild west murim.. Pretty good
@@justafrog3167 that is such a great one, Is it still on hiatus?
If there was ever a genre I see as just Dragon Ball copies... Is this.
Master Roshi taught that training wasn't just sitting and meditating for hours on end, rather he follow this one "Work hard, Teach Well, Eat and Sleep Plenty and never forget to play!"
He believed in all his pupils and never believed they had levels or had to compare each other, the danger came from strong foes, unfortunately Akira left the old philosophy for what modern cultivation became, however he never forgot character development for many of his important characters. Hell look at Tien blasting Cell down, cultivation stories often dismiss all efforts of secondary characters as nothing.
I realized I had a problem when I began to be able to understand Mother Tongue Language (MTL) without experiencing brain Aneurysm 😢
I can never go back 😭
I feel bad for you😂😂😂
Wallahi your cooked man 😂
I remember cultivating MTL 😅😅
that's still better than me:
i learned it 3 separate times with time in-between to forget about it
You seem to have bamboo in your chest, brother
The beginning skit was very good, it taught me my demonic arts aren't polished enough to fully understand demon tounge.
I just made myself cringe damn it
Still too young apprentice brother, if your Dao was strong enough you could even read MTL
@@ALUCARDTWILLIGHTI've gotten to the major accomplishment realm in this endeavor! No idiom or metaphor seems to phase me any longer~ Dear martial brother, please consider embarking on this journey to decipher the meanings of these even most obscure and esoteric sacred texts along side me.
@@ALUCARDTWILLIGHTThe current mtls are more or less readable, but the novels that were translated 5 years ago were so horrendous that I feel like I'm about to manifest a heart demon
That cultivation yap session was so fire i might have to start reading cultivation again 😭
The fact that i understand everything every sentence that came out of your mouth without the subtitles, says lot.
It seems like this junior brother's experience of the Dao of poison testing has at least some perks. Keep up the good work fellow apprentice senior brother, this junior brother is sure that one day the whole continent and the spirit realm will come to know of your brilliance. But until that time, please excuse this apprentice brother to return back to his dao of poison testing. Farewell.
Edit: Holy shit, the fact that I could never connect naruto having the kuubi inside him is equivalent to him having an old grandpa inside him. The most overused brain dead trope.
At least naruto made it interesting by having kurama fight him every single step of the way
123rd 👍
The subtitles in the beginning skit were funny as heck 🤣🤣😂🙌🏾My roommate started watching 12hr long videos of random cultivation series and from what I saw it felt just as repetitive as isekai, didn't know isekai might be more creative with the new gimmicks every new series with the same circular starting town though.
There are like, 3 sub categories of cultivation (I’m saying this before I watch the vid)
we’ve got the regular magic martial arts where the mc starts of a trash but encounters a great inheritance and rises to the top while provoking objectively evil entities and bagging the baddest of bitches (for me they get bonus points if the mc has a clearly inferior yet still comparable brother that has been around since early on instead of him being the sole decent man in the world)
We’ve got the reincarnation stories where the mc was a peak existence or an utter waste that got jumped to death, back stabbed, and/or schemed against, but had a chance encounter with an incredible artifact/rare bloodline that let him revive or reincarnate at the lowest realm with objectively the strongest talent in the universe (usually the most talented alchemists as well, and maybe even weapon refining if the author wants to make them the indisputable best)
And we’ve got the soul item style cultivation where in addition to martial arts, every one has a ranked spirit in their soul that predetermines their talent and their martial art affinity. This is different from series that have characters develop unique souls as part of their cultivation, as for most people in the story, their soul spirit’s strength is set in stone once they awaken it, but for our mc and maybe a rival that’s meant to be a lasting threat, their unique ability is their spirit can be strengthened natural alongside the typical cultivation technique, requiring them to keep it hidden unless absolutely necessary lest they attract the world’s power houses that want to steal it to break through their own bottlenecks
More like it has reached isekai level burnout brainrot before they reach other side of sea
Many isekais are also cultivation. At the core it's all the same shit, power fantasy, only instant or slightly delayed. All very cringe.
@@thatoneguylegit9219 that last one was Solo Leveling to a T 😂
@@jemm113 it’s a solid story base. Although my mind was on stories like peerless battle spirit and divine soul emperor, solo leveling is a good korean take on the “mc has a unique improvement ability.” With things like solo leveling and a returner’s magic should be special getting anime adaptations, maybe something like tales of demons and gods can get a 2d animated version that’s more consistent with the art style of the manhua than the cg anime
You should do a part 2 on this covering cultivation webnovels/novels, they are a lot crazier
Unfortunately, novels make for awful video. Nothing to put on the screen/thumbnail
@@samuek607 if you are willing to send scans of pages you want displayed, I could do some cartooning for such videos
Jade like beauty is the most common thing
Yeah, it took me a while to realize that they meant white jade. I was trying to imagine a bunch of green babes.
That was me back in the day lmao @@Alorand
Proof that Shrek is the pinnacle of beauty and male form.
@@janm5854Real.
Shrek is love,Shrek is life.
The heavenly jade star immortal dao refining sword saint emperor of the 8th cultivation realm; demonic swallowing spectral soul taoist, is VERY pleased at the mention of cultivation
In all seriousness though, the genre's generally very poorly executed as you say. Reverend Insanity (also called master of gu) is a really good one though, the manhua is discontinued and much inferior to the novel sadly, leading to it being quite unknown
There wasn't a top comment competition before, but there is now, and you're winning.
I missed the second part of the comment before. I've actually read that manhua, but I never saw the novel so I can't say too much about the difference in quality. It did seem like there was some promise, but it really wasn't long enough for me to make any sure comments on it
Bro fr? Pretty much every novels comment section references it lol
@@fasmir5688 ri is peak
Please tell me names in that type of genre don't go to that extreme
I just happened to come across this video and clicked out of curiosity. Your sassy dry humor got me hooked and I enjoyed hearing your breakdown and analysis of the genre.
Great video, you earned yourself a new subscriber. Keep up the good work :)
You know you're deep in the Xianxia rabbit hole when you change to a MTL website where the names for everything are different and try to continue reading.
gotta love when the names aren't even consistent within them and their genders change every other sentence
Bro, it's just like the final step before falling the rabbit hole 😂
Later, is to read western cultivation novels in Royal Road🤣
@@jorge23483 I think I skipped a step and went straight into royal road.
@jorge23483 Oof, I feel a bit called out. I have been on Royal Road reding books about teachers of runes, a hero maked as an idiot, a scary farm chicken, and an evil tree daddy. 100 contribution points per novel named.
@@njnjco I'm going to guess you are referencing Return of the Runebound Professor, Reborn as a Demonic Tree, and Beware of Chicken? No idea about "a hero maked(marked?) as an idiot".
Counter challenges: #1: a chest full of tentacles and swords #2: strength 0 vitality 0 agility 0 mana ♾ #3: an inanimate but zealous wave of orange, puns, and mushrooms #4: a cat that carves a lot of runes.
The Four Horsemen of Trash:
Manga: Isekai
Manhwa: Regressors
Manhua: Cultivation
Webtoon: """Girlboss"""
Novels: Harem
:Super arrogant mc, or ML/FL having unrealistic standards
@@zeraxenplus all of the above
What are regressors if I may ask? Time back magic? And if I remember correctly manwha is the non sfw version of manhuas, correct?
@@olegoleg258 Manwha is Korean comics, Manhua is Chinese comics
Personally love cultivation manga but you make some incredibly valid points. Would love to see more MCs that work for it like everyone else. Despite disagreeing with certain points, this video was done exquisitely and I had no choice but to like and subscribe! Keep going!
This wandering taoist has come across great fortune it would seem. Respected senior has truly understood the breadth of heaven and earth. At first I was unsure of your lecture, deeming you a frog in a well who drew snakes yet added legs, but it seems this junior had eyes yet did not recognise Mt. Tai. In the time it takes an incense stick to burn, you have given wings to a tiger with the flick of your sleeve, akin to crushing dry weeds and smashing rotten wood. By digesting your profound insights, I would achieve twice the results with half the effort, advancing by leaps and bounds. I have learned that there are indeed mountains above mountains, heavens above heavens. But this daoist has a concern that you may be playing lute for cows, and coax toads seeking swan meat to be cast like a clay ox entering the sea, enduring mountains of blades and seas of fire to find a single hair amongst nine oxen. When I came across this revelation, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. It seems it is finally time to wash my hands in a gold basin, but whilst all of this took some time to describe, it was written in an instant.
damn this comment is a banger.
The fact that I understood all of this.... 👀
What a magnificent dao lecture fellow daoist, this junior has widened my horizons due to your magnanimous speech, I am sure even the heavenly dao will grant you merit for all your contributions, and may the five elements bless you on your journey
Very good imitation of the usual Manhua Cultivation English Translations.
It seems this junior has a shallow comprehension of the dao.
I am unfamiliar with one of the lines you added to this profound piece.
@@Adrian-Trivani which one is it junior? I shall enlighten you on the essence of fellow daoist' lecture, as if left alone you may develop a heart demon on your sea of consciousness
Cultivation is basically what if the Chinese decided to make manga but they were drunk while writing it
"...it has the magical property of sounding like actual words, without having to make any sense." LMAO 😂 the sarcasm is indeed quite vicious.
Honestly, the biggest disappointment of the modern day is that, as tools get easier to use to create new things, people get lazier, and entertainment bars get lowered, so it gets even harder to find the good shit.
It's gotten to the point where my lazy ass is genuinely writing because I want something good to read.
I started writing before I thought everything was garbage, but best of luck to you 😭
It's not that people get lazier it's that more lazy people start writing
If you want the hard stuff go to the web novel version of this things, the good ones are mostly the ones who give a spin on the genre or satirize it somewhat though. If you want I can recommend you some hopefully decent webnovels
@@joseignaciomontes5712 my point applies all the harder to webnovels, of which I have read likely thousands. The vast, truly VAST majority are inexcusably shit, though there are a few I truly wish had been published more traditionally, so they might get the recognition they deserve, specifically the Wandering Inn.
Same.
Watching a good show gives me inferiority complex. But watching a mid show inspires/motivates me to write, like "that's not how I would've handled that scene or that arc".
Coiling Dragon was my Gateway drug. It wasn't until I was 3000 chapters into Martial God Asura that I knew I had a problem. lol You just got a subscriber. I don't meet too many other black people that read Xianxia and Wuxia.
Mine was Apotheosis. But I got bored around 500 chapters in.
Motherf*ckr, you've read 3000 chapters of martial god asura? That novel bout to surpass martial peak
I got to like a thousand in apotheosis and realized how sad I was@@joshjo9405
I only started to notice I'm addicted when i finished all the 300+ chapters manhuas and started rereading them while looking for others😂
@@alexanderpalmarin7840it have already surpassed it
Stumble upon this video today and honestly, instantly subscribed. Love the humor, analysis and content. I wish you a prosperity for you and your channel!
Fk that, im still pissed Reverand Insanity will never get an ending. Dude was the best schemer ive ever followed.
Wasn't the novel unbanned?
@samuek607 nah those r just rumours
@angeldevil9509 sadness
Can u make a video on the novel? The manhwa isn’t as good and you should just focus on the novel
@@fartsmella_prime honestly can't, because the visuals would be awful and I have to take editing into account 😔
3:02 I died at that line 😂😂Say what you want about the genre, they cook with their expressions shit like, “that attack amounted to loud thunder but tiny rain” send me
"One mountain can't hold two kings"
Actual peak writing
I WANT TO SEE A VIDEO ON MURIM MANHWA!!!!
If we hit the goal, expect it! I definitely would be down if enough people ask
@@samuek607 Hope we'll reach that number soon.
btw your videos are incredible and very fun to watch or just listen to while doing something else, keep going you'll be one of the top creators in this space one day!
Damn straight
Appreciate the vote of confidence! I'll keep going as long as I can
murim manhwa> cultivation manhua
All I know is how to slap faces, receive the help of an ancient martial master’s spirit, and learn a lost cultivation technique that’s complete hax and will land me like 15 girls or something.
Loved your summary of Xianxia genre. Very well written and delivered.
I loved this video honestly, I've akways found the genre of Cultivation to be ridiculous.
Would love to see a video about the equally-as-trash genre of "betrayed MC with secretly OP ability gathers a harem and becomes a hero" because that one has to be just as if not more copy+pasted as the cultivation genre.
Thanks for watching and enjoying the video!
Could you give examples of the type of story you're describing? Not sure if you mean the betrayal leads to their death and they reincarnate/regress, or just work towards revenge in the same life
@@samuek607 There's a very common trope in Japanese manga specifically that is aimed to make the reader sympathize with the MC and feel bad for them, most often it's the "betrayal" trope which is something like "Main character's party decides MC is useless and leaves him to die in a dungeon" or "MC's best friend kicks him out of party due to thinking his skill is useless" or, somehow also common, "MC's family disowns him because he received a 'useless' skill but it was actually secretly OP".
Just like the cultivation genere you described here, the MC in these stories is almost always a man who ends up capturing the hearts of MANY women seemingly effortlessly because this appeals to the typical Japanese teenager's dream of being powerful and attractive to women, further enforcing the toxic Asian stereotype that women are only good for serving men and can never be independant.
Okay, I've got a clearer idea of what you mean now. I'll try to see how I can word that for the next video poll
Bruh that is literally shield hero lmao
@@KiraShizuminah that last part you said is very dumb, I've read some when the women were more useful than the MC, and in Japan even girls are encouraged to becone CEOs.
Im getting fucking insane deja vu from a manhwa i haven't even read this is fucking madd 😭
It's called infinite loop pattern. xD
There are many good cultivation novels with a female protagonist such as "Ascending, Do Not Disturb", "My Disciple Died Yet Again" or "My Master Disconnected Yet Again" and they are some of the best stories I've ever read.
Really liked the beginning. Doing the things where you vocalized the idioms while translating them differently in the text seems like a lot of work and I appreciate the effort put in to pull it off.
Bro holy shit this is 1 to 1 to [Insert Cultivation Series here]
Think the skit was good enough for me to make more like it?
@samuek607 yeah, it pretty much captures the formula of the genre
Formula is a genre
@@samuek607 definitely,let's not lie to ourselves by denying that at this point the whole genre is just sets of different characters name filling up a blank bracket in the manuscript
@@leobuana7430 nah, just because most are poorly executed doesn't make the genre bad, I can name many good ones
As a veteran cultivation novel and manhua reader plus a writer, from my experience I would say avoid them. I remember the first story I read, True Martial World. Next everything else is just the same. So why am I reading it or even worse writing one? I read a ton of them. And from my experience it’s like a hook. I want to see that moment which I envisioned if I were there. But the author didn’t include it so I searched like a tarnished soul one story to another. Until finally I fed up and started my own story on webnovel to help myself read a better story that I envisioned. I feel that the same is what other manhua writers do. And the worst thing is that our envisions are so big that we sort of intentionally do not add detail.
Like the first world the most Xianxia writers show can be arranged such a way that many things can be added. But since MC doesn’t have time lots of stories just skip. Lore, character development everything is missing. Actually the main problem that I figured is to focus on MC. Both Xianxia and Wuxia do this, which basically limits the prospective view of a narrative story. Xianxia Novels can be good if they ever focus on changing the over achieving dream to a modest story of not focusing on MC but also giving focus on every character.
And Finally the Masculinity in the series is very sad. True even I sometime think why introduce a women but then degrade her. The main reason is actually even more sad. As most authors are virgin. Although Martial Peaks author actually was a virgin who later married but even he destroyed one of the timeless beauty in his series.
The very first story I read True Marital World actually the only story I read who has a pure love. The FMC lost in time and space and probably the half of the series the MC was alone never loving anyone and cultivating alone. He later found her at the very end of the story. At that time I was a noob and thought it was good but then all the harem shit destroyed my taste.
Anyway if you read through this many rambling of mine than I advise you too avoid them. No goods come from them even if the story is luckrative. It will destroy your time. But if you still wish to venture please avoid harem genres and anything with long chapter list. Cause none of them are good. If your story is good 600 to 700 chapter is enough. Like Coiling Dragon one of the best shit that ever came from cultivation stories. And if big chapter story I would only recommend Forty Millennium of Cultivation, which is a Scifi story.
Whats your take on "I shall seal the heavens" and "skyfire avenue"? The last one I find quite good cause its shortish and is quite clean of the infinite powerup stuff. Theres a limit
Things I hated about cultivation manga/ novels is that problems starts cause of some Jade beauty, Usually she is what started the problem, and every character tend to be very shallow or arrogant for no reason, every young master is a spoilt brat the main character at times tend to be a hypocrite at times believing himself to be on the side of justice yet next moment he is causing a massacre killing innocents along in the process and still claim he is the good guy. Also Its doesnt matter who the person is as long as the mc doesnt like the person it would always be that person was the worst person or some stuff like that.
Read reverend insanity
Read some good one, those usually the older one, like Record of a mortal's journey to immortality, Perfect World, A Will Eternal, Renegade Immortal, Jade Dynasty all doesn't have these problem. Newer novels nowadays are mostly just copy the formula of those succeeded old novel. Such as the one here you mentioned, it is a copy of what Battle through the heavens did, but none of them able to reach or go into details on the incident like Battle through the heavens manage, they all just seem like cheap copy.
About the justice thing.. I don't know what you are reading, but no MC in cultivation I read consider himself some saint or seek justice. Cultivation is about the world of food chain, it is wild and harsh, the strongest survive, it has nothing to do with justice, good or bad.
42 👍,
@@user-fx9el2it4m I remember that one, he fed two kids to a bear while they were alive.
It saddens me, when one finally finds gold among the dirt, another takes opportunity to steal such treasure and strip the finder from their respective worth. The work titled "Master of Gu" serves such an example, the uncontinued masterpeice, put downed, and forgotten. Such masterpiece that could never be rivaled by the like of Soul Land
If we are talking RI:
I like to think of RI as something different then Mana or Cultivation stuff.
If we are talking Fated Villan:
IT WAS PUT DOWN ????
Of course there are tons of awful xianxia stories, that’s because the good ones inspire others to write their own, and considering the general lack of quality assurance, you get some really annoying ones. Not everyone should be an author, just like not everyone should be (insert literally any other profession )
@@gruenekatze0since I've read everything I clarify. Soul land is the story of the hidden weapons guy that reincarnates in the world where cultivations is through wild animals and the MC had a spirit thing that was a blade of grass. The Fated villain is garbage because everything is too easy, everything is the system. He's too strong and the challenges too easy. Trash teir.
@@Person_Not_Known Him being to strong is the point of the Story. He is the end Boss. And relying on the system is important for his story, because it skips a lot of the standard cultivation stuff. Recently he hasn't even been using it much. (I only read human translation)
That said I do agree that there are plenty reasons to hate it like:
-his disposition toward women
-his ultimate ability to lower the IQ of everyone around him to room temperature
-he faces no real danger
-the exaggerations
-etc.
Rip Reverend Insanity surprised the CCP did not put it down after chapter 127 (of the novel), our boy Fang Yuan was a bit too spicy for the boys at the CCP but somehow he managed to make it all the way to 2334.
Bro it's like you just read through my mind this pleasure it feels so good to hear every single word coming from your mind
But sorry to disappoint you i tried to free myself from this curse formation but unfortunately I understood every single thing you just said 😢
This man might be able to see mount tai?!?! 💯🗣🗣
As long as he doesn't get lost in the sea of arrogant young masters blindly drifting around the 5 ft boulder at its base.
That's very accurate cultivation novel plot. 10 out 10 would read..
With only 2 brain cells active
Well you can't. This video delete all of you brain cells
20:23 I wanted to say that "I am the fated villain" that appears at this moment is slightly different from a typical xianxia as it kinda plays into and with the clichés but from another point of view it fits very well into your description.
Its peak i fear...
Dedicating this one to you homie 🤝
This may be the last time I ever put in effort though 😭
Manhua's are shit, ln is the right path
Fr man was cooking. Absolute 🔥
Appreciate it
I'm really glad you've made the distinction between wuxia and xanxia. I also find xanxia to be absolutely indecipherable at times, but it's really funny because literally the one xianxia that I somewhat enjoy, "martial peak" pops up in this video multiple times and, I agree , is absolutely egregious with trying to understand what's happening.
I'd love to see a video solely about wuxia!
Already made the wuxia video!
Honestly the new subganre of xiamxia of normal cultivator is quite refreshing.
Cultivation Nerd is a bit new but it seems to lack most of your compaints so far.
Could you give me recommendations?
@@KonaduKofi Do you want your protagonist to be a hero, villain or normal person?
@@demonclaw5608an actual villain not some transmigrator with a system to cuck the so called “protgonist” and gain op skills. I want to read someone who is actually evil, smart and cunning.
@@JohnDoe-vv9zp Reverend Insanity is THE best villain novel. Nothing I can recommend can ever surpass RI in terms of Plot, character writing, world building, etc. It can get quite a bit dark at times.
@@demonclaw5608 ah,the Legendary one I have never touch out of my own weakness
One thing I've made clear to myself when looking for a manga/manha/manhwa is that if there's "cultivation" in the title, then don't read it, it will most likely be boring, not funny and generic as F.
I know, Naruto, DBZ, even One Piece and JJK does use this concept but when it comes to japanese manga, I generally happened to see that they uses it in a way better way. A way that it's funny/cool/not FREAKING BORING
only exception is top tier providence (has cultivation in alternate title) but im just a glazer for my xianxa goat reverend insanity is peak but the manhua was worse than the novel
@Pearse-gj6bc and the later ergen novels as well, from my experience manhua's generally do a bad job at representing the actually good novels. The RI manhua was so shit that I even questioned if it was based on the novel.
@@natekibatu3411 same for the emperor's domination manga, it was completely different from the novel
@@natekibatu3411 honestly manhua in general are always inferior
I've devoured more tales than there are stars in the night sky, with my appetite as insatiable as a dragon seeking the path to immortality. My reading speed is like a cultivator in the Nascent Soul stage, racing through realms with the swiftness of a lightning tribulation-100 chapters or more in the blink of an eye.
When it comes to the cultivation world, I'm drawn to the Wuxia path like a moth to a flame, the balance of martial prowess and wisdom resonating with me like a harmonious Dao. Xianxia, on the other hand, is my go-to when I'm just passing through the Mortal Realm, scrolling through those endless power-ups like an ancient sage brushing aside mere mortals. Realms like Pinnacle of Immortal Emperor or Ten Divinities Peak Nine-Star Martial Deity? Those are my guilty pleasures, the divine pills I can't seem to resist, always pulling me back for another taste of their absurd, otherworldly elixirs.
You failed to talk about how the personality of the protagonist and antagonist also don't always correspond to being a hero or a villain. The protagonist is the main character but they don't always behave as a hero, and often behave just as bad if not worse as the villain.
MC seduces Girl but is more than willing to throw them away once he achieves the next realm, or gains the next treasure, giving only the surface excuse that they will return.
Or how in the quest for revenge the MC lets hundreds of thousands die at the hands of others because of some consequence to his actions, only to swoop in and "save the day" gulling people into worshiping him.
Or the worst example as the MC will murder the entire sect or clan even if they only really wanted to kill one person, everyone else is just tangentially related to the "villains"
I Shall Seal the Heavens is what got me. Something about the MC remaining a violent kleptomaniac no matter how his outlook on life and immortality changed tickled me (in a good way) and I've been trapped since
Er Gen's novels do, in fact, slap. I've read ISSTH and am currently half-way through RI (and have AWE lined up for when I finish RI sometime next month at my current pace). They really scratch the itch I got from my first cultivation novel, RMJI.
@@RuyVuusen Try another Ri thoe, Reverend Insanity one. Best novel i ever read. AI also start from ISSTH.
@@Tiareth It is something I have heard a lot about and considered starting after I finish the novels I'm currently reading. I will almost definitelly read it at some point, thanks for the recommendation!
LMFAO, THE CLASSICAL MUSIC PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND WAS MY FAVORITE PART OF THIS 🤣🤣
Don't remember the names of every piece but gah damn it just elevated this to a whole new level
That cultivation skit was peak. Thank you for such wonders.
This video was honestly refreshingly hilarious. I’m exited to see where you go from here as a content creator, you have a knack for it!
First video of yours that I've seen, really liked the skit
I literally just found your channel. If anything, I think you might be a hidden gem dude! Thanks for the great video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Xianxia is a great genre
What is there not to love
Immortality, young masters and genocide galore
I never read any work from this genre (I never knew what exactly it was), yet I found this video in my recommendations. I was entertained but am now even more hesitant to check out cultivation works
You SHOULD be hesitant, I am telling NOT to do it😭
Hmm, if I had any advice to give, Senior Brother...
While the comparison with more popular works is a good way to lead the audience towards your point, using actual plot points from actual books/manhua might've also helped. Maybe consider a video analyzing a single story as a companion video?
The thumbnail/title are pretty good, but they did draw me in because I knew the genre already. Leaning into that by using actual in-genre sources might be good.
I did love the skit, good work on that. Another interesting topic might be the weird eugenic bloodline obsession baked into the genre.
My main point of complaint on the genre, other than repetitive, is that most of the stories doesn't seem to even know how cultivation works other than workout everyday and read mantra to get stronger.
I really love the concept of cultivation, a way for a mortal to ascend to higher being like evolution in isekai but through a spiritual and martial discipline. It makes sense for the ungrateful nature of human to be wanting more. I want to make a similar story, but I'm a little afraid that it would appropriate the culture it came from.
Also, the fact that the stories can go on until the end of the world. I know a lot of xianxia story have an ending, most of them that have a novel version, but it's usually after very long and very repetitive events.
Addition : If you would like to read some xianxia story, i don't know if you'd like it, but Tales of Demons and Gods atleast seems a bit different with the incorporation of regression plot line and they try to make the women not just a damsel in distress.
Also there's Cultivator Chat Group, a story about Song Shuhang, a mere mortal who accidentally added to a group of cultivator. The story is more comedy, but it reminds me with Yozakura Family because how they incorporate the wild side of the story(Spies and Cultivators) into modern world.
There's also Soul Land. I don't know if this can be called xianxia because it have a quite different system and seemed a lot more like isekai with a touch of cultivation.
I mean each novel has it’s own preferences on how they want to do cultivation be a thing in the story
I like "Martial art master" from same author of cultivators chat room for no other fact that the story don't expand to "the end of the world" territory
don't be. "appropriating" the cultivation genre is a braindead take and can never be done because they already appropriate cultivation into a fast food genre (isekai is a fast food genre imo). Lots already mock it by using systems.
Write what you want. Dont stifle yourself and get down to it!
it's quite silly to say that you're "appropriating a culture" it's more like you're appreciating it
Everyone who's familiar with the genre should read I Am the Fated Villain. It destroyed all the tropes and cliches while also being a great cultivation story.
peak on a budget of 15 dollars?
satisfactory
If the video makes back my $15, I need to do this again.
I've stayed away from Cultivation as a whole. My few attempts to try a web comic in the genre ran into the frustrating wall of questionable translations and vague unstructured visuals. I do enjoy Wuxia cinema though, and it's kind of sad learning that Xianxia is basically Wuxia with the fun parts removed. Particularly the misogyny, Wuxia is surprisingly flexible with who can be powerful - age, sex, and status often don't matter - which gives stories a great deal more life and colour to them.
Beware of Chicken. It's a good one.
Try Reverend Insanity very unusual xiaxia with unusual power system.
Senior brother, your videos seem to me the rather exquisite type. For me to come up with improvement suggestions would be like mouse trying to lift up a castle
My brother in Dao, do the Murim Genre
And I really liked how the video was edited (even the bits with Photoshop, you made me chuckle), your humor was very enjoyable, and you're clearly knowledgeable of the genre.
I don't know if it's intentional or not but everytime you use the photo of Gu Changge, the exact opposite of what you are describing is happening.
(The manhua is "I am the fated villain")
It was half-intentional. I knew the context, but for the purposes of editing, since he's a bad guy, I had him visually represent the typical antagonists
I still really dislike people going ''Oh hey this genre is bad'' and then their reasoning is just listing bad executions of a genre.
That is not a genre being bad, you are just listing bad examples of a genre.
Like yeah, we do get a lot of bad Xianxia stories translated. So what? We have a lot of bad stories in most genres.
Funnily enough the dude conveniently ignores stories in that genre that sre actually good or do stuff different.
Because there are indeed unique ones and also well written ones. They are not even hard to find, this dude just ignores them.
I already said this more jokingly but there is one genuinely peak novel in this genre its called reverend insanity and i highly reccomend it.
Also Martial world is quite good.
@@tadeocaputo2036 not ri level tough
@@Niffunn if you sai so, Martial world is the only novel that properly explains cultivation(that i know about), ri lacks in that aspect so I think Martial world is better for beginners.
@@tadeocaputo2036 ri is the only second xianxia. Also ri has god tier world building and allat, but it assumes you are familiar with the genre
@reddytoplay9188 so your saying the begging has good world building, story and protagonist???
I read a few of these as light novels before.
I laughed so hard once you explained the plot points with the skit as well later when talking about idioms.
Its actually crazy how i understood everything and knew every title he mentioned
I'll convince you Xianxia has a lot of potential with a single title. Try reading the novel "A Regressor's Tale of Cultiavtion". I know, I know, the title turns on most red flags imaginable, but I swear, it's absolute peak. Right now it's a novel only, but a manhwa is in the workings. I recommend reading the novel with all my heart. It's the single proof that it's just the authors that are lazy and do not try hard enough to bring out the potential of XianXia.
Demon tongue? Fam has never advanced beyond the grade school realm. Language is imagined and propagated. Skit was funny and the cliché/plot holes is really needed though.
Look man I'm an American planning on writing my own Murim/Cultivation story. So any additional references is helpful. Also, the comment section is feeding me goodies.