I was giggling like a little school boy when I tried this advice in my new Logic Pro X. I was so excited with the possibilities with flex....Thanks man.
To those getting pops and clicks when adjusting pitches - I found that if you adjust one note and get a click going into the next note, then try also adjusting the pitch of the next note by, say, one cent and it makes the clicks go away. It seems to "fill in the gap" between the notes.
Great video. I’ve just got Logic Pro and as a beginner trombone player flex pitch is amazing. Not only can I make my playing sound way better but I love seeing the imperfections, the pitch drift, the vibrato on screen. It’s a great tool to analyse your playing. Thanks for cut tip, that’s really handy.
LOL I have been doing pitch correction completely wrong! Super informative! However, to get ride of that wobble artifact (you call it a missed fade) try changing it from flex pitch to monophonic or one of the other settings when done pitch correction. It will retain the correction.
I'm doing a course for Music and Sound for Video Games, and I was trying to figure out how to flex some audio to mess around with sound to make made sounds using audio I'd recorded for sound effects for an assignment and this helped massively, thanks so much! I'm also recording my second album, and I'm definitely going to use some of this with that, too! You've helped a bunch, thanks, man! :)
I managed to sort out clicks and pops in flex pitch by making a modification in vibrato and pitch correction percent on both note squares on each side of each click. I found that these occur when one of the notes has no modifications. If you make even a small adjustment the pops go away, at least they did for me. Hope this helps!
Thanks for the video! The scissor tool was useful-I hadn't used that before, so I was able to fine-tune a mix that I was having trouble with. I noticed you said you didn't use the the formant shift editor. I've found it's useful when I'm shifting pitches. For example, if I'm tuning a pitch that's a decent amount lower than it needs to be, I'll darken the vocal as I raise the pitch so that it still sounds natural.
Great to hear the scissor tool helped you out! I LOVE being able to switch between tools with advanced editing. Thanks for the tip - I will have to give that a shot!
Great vid. To the point & informative. I will help your metrics by telling you why I clicked on this video. It was the thumbnail. You had text over the graphic of "Flex Pitch." These two combined yielded a click from me, to which I watched the whole thing. Hope this helps your metrics.
@@NathanJamesLarsen What issues were fixed? I’m thinking of buying Pro Tools X but am a bit reluctant at the moment (cause of the flex pitch pop and click issues)
@@NathanJamesLarsen They‘re not really fixed though, I‘m using the latest version of Logic (10.6.3) and I still get wobbles and clicks. It‘s pretty annoying
Absolutely! Glad to hear it helped you out. Flex Pitch had only come out a few years ago - it was after they put out Flex Time. I was stoked when they released Flex Pitch a few years ago.
Thanks so much for your gear info -- I love Sweetwater too! (The candies they give you are great too, haha :) Can I ask what camera you record yourself with? It is amazingly CRISP! I need to get that camera, man!!
Nathan Larsen Music good stuff- great to hear... I’m using studio one 4 at the moment and thinking of making the transition to logic; so things like this are really helping me get excited; Thank you
huge issue with clicks and pops as well. they appear everytime no matter what i do. so after i flex pitch. i use izotope de-click with this settings : algorithm / multi band (ramdom clicks) sensitivity/3.7 frequency skew (first pass) - +0.1 (second pass) +3.2 click widening/1.2 . most of the time what i´m left with are vinyl like sounding artifacts , so i use izotopes de- crackle with this settings : quality /high strenght from 2 to 3.2 depending on how anoying the crackle is. amplitude skew /1.3 if you are still left with any clicks pops or crackles. repass either or both izotope pluggins and adjust frequency skew and or sensitivity. very good vid just subscribed.
Pops and clicks have been my biggest gripe with flex pitch. After trying so many ways to reduce these buggers, I recently noticed that, after making flex-pitch corrections, if I turn flex pitch off (put it to rest), any noticeable pops go away, but the corrections remain. Perfect! I haven't rigorously tested this observation yet, but It would help to hear what others have noticed when trying this. Thanks y'all for your weigh ins!!
What's so interesting about this is that I have gone through long periods of time of consistently having issues and then now I haven't had any issues with it in a long time. Right now, I normally only use Flex on dummy tracks and then use Waves Tune for final vocals. Waves has its own issues but it is much more smooth and natural sounding to me than Flex.
@@NathanJamesLarsen There is a noticeable pop at 13.3 "Time out of..." These pops come out of nowhere and are absolutely maddening, throw work flow out of kilter. Apple has got to fix this. I've lost a lot of time, been on the phone with Apple techs who seem to know less than I do about this issue. They are literally looking to me for answers, and I'm frankly not that much of a techie. OK, sorry for ranting. Your explanations of the basics are clear and helpful. Thanks for being A RUclipsr.
Thanks for subscribing, firstly! Sorry I've not put out more videos since this - just coming back from a pretty lengthy YT break. Lately, I've not been having the same popping issues with Logic. Perhaps they updated the software and fixed some of those problems? - curious to hear if you are still having issues?
Hey, I actually do use Flex again. Logic fixed it. But I had switched to Waves Tune for a while -- didn't like it very much. Flex is just super convenient and easy
Useful video, thanks. I 've just been trying to find this song you're using but I'm obviously looking in the wrong places. I searched "I'm Not Here" + Nathan Larsen and got nothing. Please point me in the right direction because that song and the singer's voice is just beautiful!
I think some of that popping in FlexPitch may be due to ‘tmi’ overwhelming the stunningly slow original Mechanical or “Hybrid” HD in your Mac. I found that switching from my iMac’s 5400rpm internal mechanical hard drive to an (external) SSD made a HUGE difference in the speed and overall performance of my ‘puter - and most especially, Logic Pro. The clicks and pops in Flex Pitch your experience may be due to that slooow internal HD. * I haven’t seen a spinning beach ball since I switched to an SSD, even with plugins on many multiple tracks - and I would get it regularly before the switch. That internal HD in the iMac masks how fast and powerful the guts of our old iMacs really are. That said…of course, I will be getting one of the new M chip Macs eventually. But, a $200 2TB ssd has given me a much faster and more powerful Mac in the meantime…and I didn’t have to open up the iMac - and we know how much fun that is…
Man you did everything about Production z that's what I like today, I have watched more than 5 videos, but I can't stop watching 👏👏 Much Respect From #kajoguitar 🎸🎸🎸
good video, very informative. Thank you. Any idea if they fixed the problem with all the clicking and pops? I guess I'll find out soon I'm gonna start using this right now
Hey thanks, my question is do you have to leave the flex buttons engaged even after you're through editing to keep the edits in effect? The individual tracks have the flex button now as well as the global button at the top. I just don't like the look of the tracks when they are engaged, especially when you stretch the tracks tall. But I'd hate to lose a lot of tedious work if that were the case. What do use, Melodyne? That seems to be the standard. Thanks again.
I use Flex Pitch. As far as engaging it - you can hide the flex view so you don't have to see it. Otherwise you can bounce your edited vocals down to "print" the correction.
Yes Indeed Watching In 2020. Been using Logic for about 6 years. Tackled Luna recently and it’s a sounds amazing but work flow has a long way to go. So revisiting Logic X tools. I went to Melodyne 4 years ago and it’s eliminates the click but interface is clunky. Great tips Nathan!
My favorite vocal pitch corrector is "do it over until you sing it correctly". It's the most natural sounding. Melodyne is a big step up from this, but even it doesn't work miracles.
Sorry for such a late response- coming back from a YT break. I actually have been going back to using Flex Pitch and have been finding it's not clicking or popping like it used to. Perhaps some bugs were fixed. However, I do also have Waves Tune plugin (I am thinking of making a tutorial with that). And Joseph, I ALWAYS aim to have the best performance possible to work with BEFORE editing vocals with any sort of pitch corrector, however, no one sings perfectly, so using even a little pitch correction will go a long way for ANY production. Thanks for watching everyone! Any suggestions for other video tutorials I should make?
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lol... its funny that I would find this video for in 2020!!!
Yeah yeah!
@@NathanJamesLarsen exacltyyyy 😂🙏🏽
😂
Watching this in 2020 and it's still helping! About to try to pitch vocals for the first time. Wish me luck!
Awesome! Get it! Have fun :)
Same here! 2020.
Bruh when he mentioned 2020 in the video , it grabbed my attention 🤣
Going strong in 2021, this guy just opened an huuuge door for me.
2024
"So if youre watching this in 2020" :o
Lmao that’s what I was thinking
The algorithm..... Hey, does this "clicking" problem got solved yet??(Logic pro X)
legit ay hahahahah
Same here
same xd
I was giggling like a little school boy when I tried this advice in my new Logic Pro X. I was so excited with the possibilities with flex....Thanks man.
holy shit, i am watching in 2020 haha
same lmaoooo
Me toooo 😂
me too :D
Yoooooo, Iv'e been using Logic since 2016 and I only heard of Flex Pitch today! hahaha
@@tyronekavanagh9914 literally same here lmaoo
"If you're watching this in 2020"....Yoooooooooooo
Haaayyoooo
Nathan Larsen Music Do you know if the popping and clicking is fixed in the newer version of logic pro?
@@fady12210 Yes - it's been resolved from what I can tell.. haven't had any issues for quite a while
To those getting pops and clicks when adjusting pitches - I found that if you adjust one note and get a click going into the next note, then try also adjusting the pitch of the next note by, say, one cent and it makes the clicks go away. It seems to "fill in the gap" between the notes.
That's a good note - I've not been having any issues with Flex for well over a year.
Great video. I’ve just got Logic Pro and as a beginner trombone player flex pitch is amazing. Not only can I make my playing sound way better but I love seeing the imperfections, the pitch drift, the vibrato on screen. It’s a great tool to analyse your playing. Thanks for cut tip, that’s really handy.
That's awesome! Glad this helped you! 🙏
I also use it for guitar solos. Im not the greatest guitarist but I can edit the timing and pitch and it sounds awesome
I love how you are so in depth with each explanation! Thank you so much! You just got a subscriber!
LOL I have been doing pitch correction completely wrong! Super informative! However, to get ride of that wobble artifact (you call it a missed fade) try changing it from flex pitch to monophonic or one of the other settings when done pitch correction. It will retain the correction.
2021 - still very helpful and flawlessly represented. 😊 Thank you Nathan! ✨
I'm doing a course for Music and Sound for Video Games, and I was trying to figure out how to flex some audio to mess around with sound to make made sounds using audio I'd recorded for sound effects for an assignment and this helped massively, thanks so much!
I'm also recording my second album, and I'm definitely going to use some of this with that, too! You've helped a bunch, thanks, man! :)
I loved the song you are playing in the video, where can i listen to the full song?
2020 May and im watching! 🥰
Nice one! Clear and concise - thank you :)
Just found this in 2021. So helpful!
Thanks for sharing.
What a beautiful voice in a lovely song. Engineers proceed with care these are rare.
You deserve a lot more views! keep doing your best! Kudos!
I managed to sort out clicks and pops in flex pitch by making a modification in vibrato and pitch correction percent on both note squares on each side of each click. I found that these occur when one of the notes has no modifications. If you make even a small adjustment the pops go away, at least they did for me. Hope this helps!
Hey - thanks! I'll give that a shot.
What are you using now instead of flex pitch?
Nice vocal, mix and beautiful song and oh yeah very helpful. Thanks
Thanks man for the time you took creating this video. Very helpful !
Great video... Is there a way to add a flex pitch marker to a letter/word of the vocal if it's not there already?
One of the best videos on flex pitch.... thanks Nathan!
I have that same problem as well! What software do you use?
Thanks for the video! The scissor tool was useful-I hadn't used that before, so I was able to fine-tune a mix that I was having trouble with. I noticed you said you didn't use the the formant shift editor. I've found it's useful when I'm shifting pitches. For example, if I'm tuning a pitch that's a decent amount lower than it needs to be, I'll darken the vocal as I raise the pitch so that it still sounds natural.
Great to hear the scissor tool helped you out! I LOVE being able to switch between tools with advanced editing.
Thanks for the tip - I will have to give that a shot!
I use flex pitch a lot and just learned the “cut note” trick in your video. Thanks..
nice video.. ear hear flatness before sharpness i was always told.... no matter. ear judges in the end! cheers
This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you!
“If you’re watching this in 2020”
This is my first time seeing it and it is 2020....
Nice. 👌
Love it 😎
You work sooooo fast. Inspiring, bro!
watching this in 2020. starting to pitch vocals. thank you
This is a fantastic video man. You distill advanced concepts really well
Love hearing that and appreciative of it. Thank you 🔥🙏
Great vid. To the point & informative.
I will help your metrics by telling you why I clicked on this video. It was the thumbnail. You had text over the graphic of "Flex Pitch." These two combined yielded a click from me, to which I watched the whole thing. Hope this helps your metrics.
You did a great job with this. Glad to hear it’s improved in subsequent updates. Thank you.
Thanks! Yes I'm glad the issues are fixed
@@NathanJamesLarsen What issues were fixed? I’m thinking of buying Pro Tools X but am a bit reluctant at the moment (cause of the flex pitch pop and click issues)
@@NathanJamesLarsen They‘re not really fixed though, I‘m using the latest version of Logic (10.6.3) and I still get wobbles and clicks. It‘s pretty annoying
This video is pure gold!
Dude thank you so much for this! Super quick and straight to the point!
WHERE DO I FIND THIS SONG IT SOUNDS NICE
“If you’re watching this in 2020”................. I feel attacked 💀
Great tutorial you work fast not that a couple of replays can't catch. It is just so nice can try and if F'd Up can redo!
@1:15 waaaaaaahh hhahahhaaha okay il just USE E ...great stuff bro...and yes i subscribed LOL!!!
Thank you so much for this bro. Super well explained. Needed it !!!
Sure thing, man!
this tutorial is epic man - just got the new logic pro from pro 9 and these features are explained really well. Kudos
Thanks a bunch. Any topics on Logic you'd like me to make a video on?
Great video man. Very well explained.
Thank you Nathan! I am beginning to learn audio editing (I'm a singer). I like to meticulous approach of teaching.
Thanks Nathan.Greetings from India. It's a lovely lovely melody. Could you please post a link to the released song?
you just saved my entire album thank you so much 🤘
2021! I have been producing using logic for 5 years and never used this. Wtf. I'm so excited to try this out!
Watching in 2022.. Trying to get to grips with all the new (to me) features since I stopped on Logic 7 many years ago! Great tutorial.
Useful info thanks - been using flex to fix timing issues for ages but hadn't realised pitch was an option!
Absolutely! Glad to hear it helped you out. Flex Pitch had only come out a few years ago - it was after they put out Flex Time. I was stoked when they released Flex Pitch a few years ago.
Thank you so much for the tutorial
When i turn on flex pitch the adjustable notes feature doesn’t come up. I cant individually change the pitches of the notes
Me too I need help
Thank you so much, your RUclips channel is a HUGE Help 🙏
This was very helpful, you are the man! SUBSCRIBED
I’ve had that same glitch problem and found gluing the segment to the whole makes it go away 🤙🏼
Thanks so much for your gear info -- I love Sweetwater too! (The candies they give you are great too, haha :) Can I ask what camera you record yourself with? It is amazingly CRISP! I need to get that camera, man!!
Yooo this helped so much! Thank you!
Just processing my first vocal used track so happy with this one😊
You are the man!
Thanks for the top tutorials.
Wooot! Thanks!
New subscriber here, you are so understandable and you know what you doing. Love you man and thanks for sharing your skills God Bless You!
Once you've enabled and used Flex Pitch, can you 'Turn off the enable button' so to speak or must you leave it on for it to continue working
Very informative! Thanks !! This tool had me stumped !!!
Practice, practice, practice! You got this
Another great and helpful video.
thanks for your informative and clear videos :)
Loved it specially cutting notes up part. thanx
Awesome!
Dude I was using pitch shift effects before this, this is way better
This video was super helpful. Thank you!
Really good! Liked the break down! A++++++++
Thanks for the video! I needed to know how to add a note handle where flex time didn’t detect it.
Best wishes - Tim
this was great, youre dope 🔥💯 thanks
i'll try very soon.. cant wait !!! thanks alot sir!!!
For sure!
Really well explained and to the point. Cheers for the info
Is popping still there in the current update? (Sept 2020)
I haven't had any problems with this in at least two years!
Nathan Larsen Music good stuff- great to hear... I’m using studio one 4 at the moment and thinking of making the transition to logic; so things like this are really helping me get excited; Thank you
huge issue with clicks and pops as well. they appear everytime no matter what i do. so after i flex pitch. i use izotope de-click with this settings : algorithm / multi band (ramdom clicks) sensitivity/3.7 frequency skew (first pass) - +0.1 (second pass) +3.2 click widening/1.2 . most of the time what i´m left with are vinyl like sounding artifacts , so i use izotopes de- crackle with this settings : quality /high strenght from 2 to 3.2 depending on how anoying the crackle is. amplitude skew /1.3 if you are still left with any clicks pops or crackles. repass either or both izotope pluggins and adjust frequency skew and or sensitivity. very good vid just subscribed.
Pops and clicks have been my biggest gripe with flex pitch. After trying so many ways to reduce these buggers, I recently noticed that, after making flex-pitch corrections, if I turn flex pitch off (put it to rest), any noticeable pops go away, but the corrections remain. Perfect! I haven't rigorously tested this observation yet, but It would help to hear what others have noticed when trying this. Thanks y'all for your weigh ins!!
What's so interesting about this is that I have gone through long periods of time of consistently having issues and then now I haven't had any issues with it in a long time. Right now, I normally only use Flex on dummy tracks and then use Waves Tune for final vocals. Waves has its own issues but it is much more smooth and natural sounding to me than Flex.
@@NathanJamesLarsen There is a noticeable pop at 13.3 "Time out of..." These pops come out of nowhere and are absolutely maddening, throw work flow out of kilter. Apple has got to fix this. I've lost a lot of time, been on the phone with Apple techs who seem to know less than I do about this issue. They are literally looking to me for answers, and I'm frankly not that much of a techie. OK, sorry for ranting. Your explanations of the basics are clear and helpful. Thanks for being A RUclipsr.
What do you mean by putting it to rest? Where do you turn it off?
Well, it’s 2024, 7 years after this was posted, but I’m grateful. Video well done - clear and understandable. It helped me a lot! Thanks!
Thanks so much for this
That was quite well done. Thanks a lot
watching this in 2022 and Im glad to start the year off learning!
Thanks for this. Yeah the pops and clicks kind of make this unusable in simple arrangements.
Oh, and I subscribed.
Thanks for subscribing, firstly! Sorry I've not put out more videos since this - just coming back from a pretty lengthy YT break.
Lately, I've not been having the same popping issues with Logic. Perhaps they updated the software and fixed some of those problems? - curious to hear if you are still having issues?
2022 and still helpful! Thanks a lot!
If you don't use flex pitch what do you use to edit vocals now? thanks for the great vids
Hey, I actually do use Flex again. Logic fixed it. But I had switched to Waves Tune for a while -- didn't like it very much. Flex is just super convenient and easy
@@NathanJamesLarsen nice what do you think about Melodyne?
clear & concise, well done.
Thanks a bunch! Appreciate it!
Useful video, thanks. I 've just been trying to find this song you're using but I'm obviously looking in the wrong places. I searched "I'm Not Here" + Nathan Larsen and got nothing. Please point me in the right direction because that song and the singer's voice is just beautiful!
I think some of that popping in FlexPitch may be due to ‘tmi’ overwhelming the stunningly slow original Mechanical or “Hybrid” HD in your Mac.
I found that switching from my iMac’s 5400rpm internal mechanical hard drive to an (external) SSD made a HUGE difference in the speed and overall performance of my ‘puter - and most especially, Logic Pro. The clicks and pops in Flex Pitch your experience may be due to that slooow internal HD.
* I haven’t seen a spinning beach ball since I switched to an SSD, even with plugins on many multiple tracks - and I would get it regularly before the switch. That internal HD in the iMac masks how fast and powerful the guts of our old iMacs really are.
That said…of course, I will be getting one of the new M chip Macs eventually. But, a $200 2TB ssd has given me a much faster and more powerful Mac in the meantime…and I didn’t have to open up the iMac - and we know how much fun that is…
That song is beautiful
Man you did everything about Production z that's what I like today, I have watched more than 5 videos, but I can't stop watching 👏👏
Much Respect From
#kajoguitar 🎸🎸🎸
hwy thanks for this! Who's the singer?? She has a gorgeous voice! Sorry didn't look through all comments to see if you've already answered this!
Andrea von Kampen - she's done very well in the folk world - millions of streams on Spotify.
good video, very informative. Thank you. Any idea if they fixed the problem with all the clicking and pops? I guess I'll find out soon I'm gonna start using this right now
Actually I haven't had any issues with pops in the last couple years.
Great video, great software to be able to adjust a vocal like that....
Yeah - I love Flex Pitch!
It looks more comfortable than Celemony Melodyne!
Hello from Russia
Great video, thanks 🙏🎶
Hey thanks, my question is do you have to leave the flex buttons engaged even after you're through editing to keep the edits in effect? The individual tracks have the flex button now as well as the global button at the top. I just don't like the look of the tracks when they are engaged, especially when you stretch the tracks tall. But I'd hate to lose a lot of tedious work if that were the case. What do use, Melodyne? That seems to be the standard. Thanks again.
I use Flex Pitch. As far as engaging it - you can hide the flex view so you don't have to see it. Otherwise you can bounce your edited vocals down to "print" the correction.
@@NathanJamesLarsen Oh, great thanks for the fast reply! How do you hide the flex view? Thanks again!
Never mind, found it! By Googling that exact phrase "How do you hide the flex view?" or simply Command + F. Thanks again, big fan!
2021 great video.
Are you working on Chromatic scale?
thankies! 💕
Yes Indeed Watching In 2020. Been using Logic for about 6 years. Tackled Luna recently and it’s a sounds amazing but work flow has a long way to go. So revisiting Logic X tools. I went to Melodyne 4 years ago and it’s eliminates the click but interface is clunky.
Great tips Nathan!
Yeah I know a lot of people who used melodyne and ended up just switching to flex pitch.
Which vocal pitch corrector did you switch to?
most likely Melodyne
My favorite vocal pitch corrector is "do it over until you sing it correctly". It's the most natural sounding. Melodyne is a big step up from this, but even it doesn't work miracles.
Sorry for such a late response- coming back from a YT break.
I actually have been going back to using Flex Pitch and have been finding it's not clicking or popping like it used to. Perhaps some bugs were fixed. However, I do also have Waves Tune plugin (I am thinking of making a tutorial with that).
And Joseph, I ALWAYS aim to have the best performance possible to work with BEFORE editing vocals with any sort of pitch corrector, however, no one sings perfectly, so using even a little pitch correction will go a long way for ANY production.
Thanks for watching everyone!
Any suggestions for other video tutorials I should make?
I am watching this on Dec 2020. Terimakasih 💙
Yaaaa! 😎😎🙏