Ah, but he has the plausible deniability of his "American-style freedom" phrasing. Whatever that means is anyone's guess. Presumably the freedom to die of a treatable health condition because you were afraid of bankrupting yourself if you went to the hospital.
@@sbushido5547 Or (Cody voice) the WEST. Which means any pocket of white people, and some Asians, anywhere in the world that are convenient to his argument.
He will only debate someone when he feels he has some advantage. He tries to irritate as his main tactic and younger people tend to be less disciplined. He’s completely disingenuous and only repeats talking points from right wing billionaires
I would like to remind Ben Shapiro that as a fellow Jew, a ship named St Louis full of Jews running away from the Nazis was turned away by the US, wonder what Ben would say about this
And I love how Ben talks about how he wants immigrants to honor other Americans beliefs and lifestyles (all while wearing a Yamika) which NOT ALL AMERICANS WEAR!!!
It's crazy how bad he looks when he faces a well-spoken opponent face-to-face in a neutral room. Clearly, it's easier for Ben to battle nervous college students from behind a podium, in an auditorium filled with people who already agree with him.
So, what Ben is saying is... he wants really bright and talented immigrants to come in and take all the top jobs, while leaving the grunt work to American citizens? That's definitely a new talking point on the right, haven't heard that one before.
Israel and India are working together, someone in the know said it’s going to get very hard for standard middle class guy and regular immigration is going away cuz AI and automation.
Let's be honest here, the bright and talented immigrants to America ALL come legally, and the majority of them are from Asia, specifically India, Japan, China, and Russia. They come here and become doctors, computer programmers, engineers, research scientists. The white collar jobs are largely comprised of whtes and Asianss, the grunt work mostly the others.
Debate Wizard here! Thanks for highlighting my debate, I’ve been a fan of the show for a long time now. Let me know when you’re ready to step down Sam I’m ready 👍
I watched the full debate. Didn't see in any shape or form you defeating him. Lots of projection and refusal to answer/focus on Ben's points. Well done
Didn't win the debate but moral victory that you didn't do as bad as the others and didnt come across like some of the other angry people who seemed to just want their chance at shitting on Shapiro.
If Ben Shapiro applied for a driver's license and it took ten years to get it to him, do you think he would consider himself to blame for getting ticketed for driving without a license, or do you think he'd blame the DMV?
US immigration is not just about how long it takes. It also takes money and even with money, we only allow certain amounts people to migrate here from each country. So if you're a Mexican laborer who wants a future for their children without being kidnapped, raped or killed by narco terrorists, you're just fucked. That's why they come here illegally. They're not bad people. They're just desperate. It's unfortunate that we can't think in terms of being _human beings_ who empathize with other humans above rather than being mere _Americans_ and viewing others as outsiders.
When I was an undergrad I used to be a little intimidated by Ben Shapiro because the guy was very good at citing facts. After getting my PhD in biology, publishing papers, getting peer-reviewed, and learning how to use statistical analyses I realized that having all the facts means absolutely nothing if you're not interpreting them correctly or are cherry picking them. My first paper was rejected six times because although I was correct in a lot of what I was saying, the way I tied my analyses and facts together were wrong in their conclusion. This is the game that I think Ben Shapiro relies on, he thinks that by citing a few facts from a few papers, he's going to make a point, but most researchers can easily tear apart Ben Shapiro when it comes to the nuance. This is why Ben usually debates college students because they're still too young to really defend themselves properly
You can make anything true with "facts" and remember "facts don't have feelings" unless they fo again Shapiro LOL. I always saw through his BS but I'm probably older than you
Damn the copium here is astounding This isn't science it's politics Also academia is a joke these days with how many nonsense dissertations and publications that get approved
The misrepresentation of facts is one of the biggest hindrances to the current political state of affairs. And it's not a matter of age, as maga clearly shows. It's probably due to many factors. But one is you have to be able to keep an open mind, and prioritize truth and honesty above partisanship. Obviously this is a bigger issue the farther one goes to the right, but it occurs on all points of the political spectrum. One random, and inconsequential, issue, that popped up for me recently is the change over from bc/ad to bce/ce. This change was made purely to cosplay as a moral entity watching out for the sensitivities of other people. But it's fundamentally dishonest.
@@JohnSmith-to5ow "fundamentally dishonest" that's an amazing display of emotion tied to nomenclature that harms/changes nothing in your life. interesting ... and telling ...
I was a legal migrant to the US, Middle school teacher (public school system in MA) my visa got cancelled because a clerk did not submit my papers for a renovation in a timely manner. I had to leave the life I started building after three years of hard work. It ruined my life plans after years of working, paying taxes and contributing to my community. The system as it stands right now is broken and uncaring. No wonder people just decides to skip it and try make it without papers.
That is INSANE. As someone who plans to immigrate to a foreign nation to be an educator, this is a nightmare situation. Thank you for sharing, the US is so broken it's crazy
A superiority complex is really just an overcompensated inferiority complex. Shapiro has a very obvious angry small dog energy. He's acting arrogant because he's a scared little boy
I think it comes from being considered a "gifted student" as a kid; he's got that "gifted" arrogance where he thinks he knows everything and is afraid to learn something new lest he look stupid, so he rationalizes to hell and back his ignorant af beliefs and never tries to challenge them because he doesn't know how to challenge himself.
@@thekarret2066 I love tou said "considered gifted", he looks like he was a serious child who act like a little adult and that made his family think he was a genius (they were wrong)
@@thekarret2066 When it comes to the transgender community, I think he has done the research and is not ignorant. He just _fundamentally_ disagrees with what trans people believe, and what they want to do to themselves.
Just so long as the guy who argued for a squad of pro-bono Jason Bournes to take out the inevitable capital-feudal lords has an invite. I want more content from that guy
@danielmikula1375 Most people that call themselves "libertarian" in the USA have no idea what that means. They just think it means like "super-Republican" or something. Sam Seder is far more libertarian than Trump is. Real libertarians are anti-war, pro-immigrant, pro-choice, pro-LGBT, pro-democracy, pro-"free press", etc. ....
I would pay to have Sam Seder, Emma, John Iadarola, Cenk Uygur, Ana Kasparian, Hassan, Farron Cousins, Benjamin Dixon, Francesca Fiorentini, Trae Crowder, Jimmy Kimmel, Seth Meyers, Jon Stewart, Lewis Black, Bernie Sanders and the cherry on top to annoy him AOC put Ben in the center. Let's go Ben!
I absolutely love where this guy went regarding ideology. Tell me Ben, what ideology should be banned in the USA? Are there beliefs that should not be allowed in our nations? Which ones? How do you decide? What freedom of speech/belief/religion, etc. do you think should not be allowed? Stop lying, Ben Shapiro. You want there to be religious and ideological tests for citizenship, which is definitionally unconstitutional. You are a theocratic fascist. An alarming position considering your ancestry, aside from all the other reasons it's also despicable. Talking like the micro-machines guy doesn't help your case. Your educational pedigree is nothing more than a demonstration of how bankrupt and useless those criteria actually are. I went to school with too many people like Ben Shapiro. They are the people who memorize the book, but have no concept of what it means. But they get really good grades, which is all that seems to matter now. Anyway, dude kicked Ben's ass. It was fun to see.
He’s made clear what ideologies he believes immigrants should have coming into the country. Your point about having tests around religious test is false and was NEVER mentioned. Having tests around ideology is important, I don’t know why you’d disagree with that. Do you really think we should allow ANYONE in even if their ideology is the antithesis of freedom? Keep in mind there are people who will kill gays
For almost 12 years I tried to asked The United States Navy to help me get my US Citizenship, but I failed. Yes I served The United States Navy and actually retired. The only reason why I'm able to gain my US Citizenship is when Bill Clinton signed the Executive order to allow me to get it because of the first Iraq Conflict under Bush, Sr. Immigration is a very complicated process that people like Ben Shapiro should not pretend to know anything about. Through all the years I've been begging The United States Navy help me get my US citizenship, I've learned quite a lot about the process that I would have otherwise been unable to avail myself of had the threat of dying while serving this country didn't happen. I'm really sick of people who pretend they only hate "Illegal Immigrants".
Ben Shapiro has the gift of talking fast and over people. I’ve got news for him. Some people see right through his bullshit. Yeah and I’d love to know what American culture he’s talking about too.
They aren't difficult to get. They aren't actually called Einstein visas. They are just for folks who are the top of their profession. And I detest her.
The guy who debated Ben Shapiro is just great. His tactic is keep digging Ben with question based off Ben’s own answer just to confirm that his answer doesn’t make sense, lack of consensus, or inconsistent. It’s great to see Ben exposed himself in this debate. Bravo! my dude knew what to do to face Shapiro. He needs a podcast.
@tom-ment-Capybara, so Ben couldn't counter his own gish gallop tactic when it was used against him? If Ben had anything substantive to say, he would have, but he was too busy hanging on the ropes, gasping. This dude buried him fair and square. Ben was outclassed.
@@tom-ment-Capybarabecause, capybara, Ben's opinions are well known and if he had something to say he would have not backed down. He stopped talking because he didn't know how to respond. He didn't know how to respond because he knew he was caught not making sense and had to invent a new kind of immigration test which is the silliest thing he said all debate.
Americans always selling some bull about America being the promise land. If you are in America your ancestors were either kidnapped and sold there. Down on their luck - willingly or unwillingly handed the option to start over in a new place. Or an original inhabitant with your ancestors mostly killed, their land stolen and you are rarely part of the conversation. America's real magic is to have seeded a system with the ability to exploit all these horror stories and extract wealth as a final product. The type of immigrants these idiots lust for already have more than enough and have no need for America.
The type that has a rich daddy that pays someone to do his homework and then reminds the teacher for everyone else to turn it in to show off his unearned work. While enjoying watching all the others suffer and snarks about being superior.
“Ah Mr Shapiro if you only knew how ridiculous that statement is you wouldn’t have said it.” Andrew Neil summed up Shapiro’s entire “career” with that quote.
@@SumuduVNagodavithana ah no not really. The “trans guy” just went on an unhinged rant to demonstrate his/her severe victim complex. Was kinda embarrassing tbh. Dude needs to lay off the testosterone, it’s addled his/her mind
I wonder if Ben's ideology examination would have cleared any of the following: 6th Street Baptist Church Bombing - kkk, 1963 Unabomber - Ted Kaczynski, 1978-1995 Oklahoma City Bombing - Timothy McViegh, 1995 Centennial Olympic Park Bombing - Eric Rudolph, 1996 Wisconsin Sikh Temple Shooting - Wade Page, 2012 Charleston Church Shooting - Dylann Roof, 2015 Congressional Baseball Shooting - James Hodgkinson, 2017 Charlottesville Car Attack - James Field, 2017 Pittsburgh Synagogue Shooting - Robert Bowers, 2018 Escondido Mosque Fire and Poway Synagogue - John Earnest. 2019 El Paso Walmart Shooting - Patrick Crisius, 2019 Elaine Massacre - 1919 Tulsa Race Massacre - 1921 Rosewood Massacre - 1923
He wasnt amazing he was just trying to find flaws when his whole objective is flawed. If it takes 10 years to come to America, try Canada or Germany. America is more third world these days anyways. If you need a job. Learn finance and trade. Alot if Nigerians are excellent day traders and crypto and are rich.
There is zero zero chance that your average immigrant of ANY stripe contributes less than they draw from the system. Also uninsured Americans ALSO use the emergency room for nonemergency care.
The fact that Ben Shapiro, and those of his ilk, continue to perform in these forums this poorly and are so obviously outmatched yet continue to be paid to appear is all that you need to know about The divide on display here.
@@Mant111I really think it’s you who needs to step out of your echo chamber lmfao. To deny reality this hard lmfao? Absolutely no one thinks he lost? 0 people?
Public hospitals are strained in general. Too little funding for healthcare, too much waste on private health insurance, too few doctors trained, too little investment in rural health.
Yeah, and Biden did perfectly shutting down small businesses and creating quarantine areas for lockdowns over a virus with a lethality of 0.7%. The only reason Biden got into office was democrats wouldn't take the trump Vax, and conservatives wouldn't put up with a Republican lockdown. These people are all friends behind the scenes, and we are all being played with problem, reaction, solution governance.
He left it up to the states, what should he have done differently? Wait, I'm asking someone who wore a mask outside and in the privacy of your own vehicle........
@@molasorrosalom4846Maybe actually send out the federal stockpile of masks and other supplies that were just sitting there in warehouses literally meant for that exact purpose?
@@molasorrosalom4846 He told the governors to call China and other countries for supplies that he had access to. Thousands died, and it fueled later numbers during the Biden administration. Household cleaners, bright lights. He ineptitude is what got him canned in 2020.
I really hate the red flag system because half the people on the outside were raising their flags when Ben was talking, so Mason didn't even get the chance to counter when he had perfect rebuttals. They never let anybody cook.
I'm in Georgia, you are right. We punished immigrants and our farmers and consumers went absolutely nuts. The governor himself and the legislature backed off the enforcement of such stringent regulations for pushing migrants out and they came back in. What our stupid citizens learned was this. EVEN when the government allowed low risk criminal in the jails to be outside, picking the crops, that didn't last even a good two weeks. They preferred being in a cell. When the jobs were advertise for local citizens, no one showed up. Since then you have NOT heard about any major raids on immigrants in my state. We let sleeping dogs lie. Everyone know their role and you won't catch any homeowner asking the guys who are painting the house or fixing the roof, whether they have 'papers' or not.
They will hate if we deported the labor in California. California produces like 50% of the produce and 100% of the a of human grade food crops for the USA. And since the farms are run by 50% undocumented labor that have been in the USA for decades they won't have to worry about egg prices anymore. They will be begging for them to come back and build them their own houses on our dime. At the same time those farmers are likely the ones voting for Trump so I say oh well! But bad for us massively.
It's wild to think it was basically one guy who militarised the US/Mexico border, IIRC he was ex-head of the US Marines and he just didn't like how "undisciplined" the border was. Mexican workers would come up for the harvest, sleep out in the fields or in accommodation provided by the farmer, take their cash payments, and then go home. If where they were working was close enough to the border, they'd go home every night or every Saturday night to go to church on Sunday and be back Monday morning. It's not as simple as that of course because the drug trade wasn't anywhere as huge then as it is now, and nothern Mexico did not have the same, um, cartel problems that so much of it does today. But militarising the border was a contributor. They should have kept it more like the Canadian border.
You are preaching to the choir my brother and I have this conversation all the time who is going to do this type of hard manual labor the generation of kids blacks no and most surely not the white kids Americans would starve to death because the migrants works in picking all the produce in the meat processing plants and when the blacks do not do those black jobs as Trump said who is left
That's why Trump is talking about Black jobs. These people want Jim Crow. Ben is so ignorant that he thinks Jewish people were treated well during Jim Crow since he grew up in white nationalist
How could he be bad at it, he has so much experience debating college students who haven't prepared at all in an environment he controls with an audience that supports him! Clearly he's a master debater! Master 'bater as we like to say.
He usually is. But unfortunately the production team failed to mention to ben, that some of these guys are actually intelligent and have some working knowledge on the topics to be debated over.
@@olaf3140 If their statements are actually cogent and not full of fallacies. Ben constantly strawmans, gish gallops, makes appeals to authority through 2nd or 3rd hand account, and is otherwise completely disingenuous with his points. The classic example is his argument that people will just sell their homes if sea levels rise which is completely incoherent. Who would buy a flooded home? We are actually seeing investment companies and insurance companies completely leaving Florida for that exact reason.
Hate how culture and Ideology are being used interchangeably when they are very different things. You cannot allow the right to switch from talking about culture to ideology so easily. One is lived lifelong experience that gets assimilated throughout you whole life the other is a deliberately adopted outlook that has a directed, active application. Most refugees don't come with an ideology. They come because they starve, get bombed or have no future in their place of origin.
😏There's a reason Ben Shapiro has 7.9 million subscribers and Majority Report has less than 2million... 🤔 think about that for a moment. I mean really think about it.
Homework, now look for Ben when he says those things.... you have an ideological obligation to enforce your specific opinions. Don't be a hypocrite. Are your eyes open? Or is your bias too consuming?
In 1993 Donald Trump was checked for doing this in a House hearing by Rep Miller. Shapiro just did the same thing. A based on what “they” look like approach. Bigotry on display.
In USA the mass immigration through the xx century didn't cause society collapse because was prevalent from Christian countries. We in Europe are experiencing a lot of immigration by Muslim countries and we are paying consequences. Muslims proved they think immigration as sort of sharia mission to colonize. The left is very blind to this stuff and they just think it is humanitarian to let more and more refugees when a country can't even give security and decent job and life to his own people, immigrants or natives. You want chaos? You are welcome, just let us sure it happens inside universities and not where civilized people (Indians, Chinese, Europeans, Jews etc.) live and thrive.
6:40 um... yes? I would much prefer the USA stopped destabilizing countries around the world but accepting migrants fleeing those countries doesn't even meet the minimum for what the USA should be doing in response to the various catastrophes they've deliberately caused around the world. Actions should have consequences Ben.
Allende was Democratically elected President and was proposing dividends for his citizens from their copper mining industry. Nixon, Kissinger, and the Chicago boys couldn't tolerate a Democracy in America's hemisphere so Pinocet was installed who killed 1000s causing a mass exodus of refugees. Canada and Europe offered refuge.
It's funny how conservatives act like the US doesn't owe anything to the citizens of nations that the US government/military actively prevented from achieving any kind of prosperity. They basically make the argument that "yeah, it's our fault that those people need to escape from the country they were born in, but that doesn't mean we should help them."
It's call a Gish Gallop. If you throw so much at your debate opponent that by the time they refute or fact check one point, a whole bunch more have flown by too fast to answer, you can claim you won and all your fanboys will say you destroyed them.
It's weird how Ben, someone who loves to talk about potentially morally abhorrent people who support left-leaning ideals but didn't like being reminded that he shares the same view on immigration as a Nazi. Wonder Why. I'm somewhat surprised Jubilee even asked Ben to do this. He's still relevant, I guess, but it's abundantly clear to anyone who isn't an absolute simp for Ben that when he's not talking to charged-up teenagers, he's pretty unimpressive.
Can’t remember who said it but the emperor has no clothes and if at this point you can’t see it then you are either a simp for Ben or being willingly ignorant. Probably both.
He wears his Yarmulke as a shield. If you say word one about him supporting Fascist ideas he whips out his Jewish identity like a trump card. Oh wait... I didn't even mean that... ha.
@@themajesticmoose8147 Hans Christian Anderson, from Denmark, which was #1 on the Democracy Index the same year it was #1 on the Press Freedom Index and #1 on the Happiness Index. In 1976 America was tied with Denmark on the GINI index of wealth inequality. EDEN is the stock market ticker symbol for this Capitalist Democracy. 200 years after America was born it reached parity with EDEN. Then reagan's trickle-down feudalism took over, killed the middle class, and revived the plantation economy with prisons for profit employing prisoners for 8 cents an hour at hard labor who are imprisoned for life for a joint or shoplifting under 3 strikes and mandatory minimums...A Feudal Autocratic Republican Theocracy or F.A.R.T. has been ruling America ever since. I think it stinks.
The "medical benefits" Ben accuses migrants of "mooching off of" make up a whopping 0.1% of the national medicaid spending. Ben can ramble all he wants but the facts don't match up with his rhetoric
And he also conveniently ignored the massive economic benefits that mean that undocumented immigrants are absolutely not a net drain, they're a net benefit
Shapiro sounds like a Chipmunk on helium . He also needs someone in the background around shouting "Alvin.....ALVIN!!! " whenever he opens his mouth lol .
I work in a conservative dominated business, and i cant openly say im voting democrat because i fear retaliation and being ostracized. Calling someone a democrat at my place of work is a serious insult. We are in an era of politics that people cant freely express their opinions. This is very frustrating.
I think the real problem is that you know full well the warmongers and corporatist rats are deep in bed with the Democrats and you're still openly telling people you're voting for them.
Hard doubt. Conservatives aren't the ones who try to destroy you and call you all sort of names as soon as you reveal your political beliefs. There's a reason if there's a meme about the "tolerant left".
@@primashady4474Why is the process so long? We had a chance to hire more immigration judges, but Trump wanted to run on a crisis so he told the GOP to stop the border bill that gave so much to the GOP.
The reason why it takes so long to apply for american citizenship is because there are millions of people applying and you expect the government to background check everyone within a few minutes per person? You also got to factor in other countries at fault for taking a long time to send in their criminal record to the American government. American governments are flawed and slow, yes, but other countries government should take the blame too. If the mexican government takes 10 years to send someone’s info to the american government, what should they do? Just give him a free citizenship just to find out that he used to be an underground druglord?
Jubilee doesn’t bring on liberal commentators, only right wing one. They brought back one of the “Woke teens” (Dean Withers) who was in Charlie kirk’s video but he’s far from a paid professional. he still demonstrated you don’t need oil money to make Charlie Kirk look dumb.
In my opinion, he & Charlie Kirk are two of the worst! Although I find Shapiro a little more tolerable to listen to than Charlie Kirk. Kirk is so far down the Trump “religious” rabbit hole, that every time he opens his mouth he can’t help but bring it back to his bromance for Trump & religious beliefs… which in itself can be problematic. I just can’t.
The temporary protection status was put into law by a Republican president, George H W Bush!!! Does anyone know this!?! The Haitians were brought here under that law. They needed them in Ohio!!
He needed cheap labor. Come on if Republicans wanted immigration issues solved , they would’ve made eVerify mandatory not voluntary. It’s all Bullshit by Repugnants
In my opinion he doesn’t really know anything about immigration legal or illegal , it seems he just knows what he hears from other people. That’s why Shapiro is getting irritated with someone that has done his research on the issue.
to remind everyone Ben is the guy who said the solution to rising sea levels, is just having people sell their beachfront houses, which, if the sea level rises will be underwater. So it’s not surprising that he is confused that making immigration so freaking hard pushes people into you illegally immigrating to America.
No one would be there except the natives, and I'm pretty sure there was no legal process, "ideology screening", and most of the first settlers weren't qualified workers. This is all beyond hypocrisy
Where exactly was he humiliated? Almost all those who sat with him didn't debate their arguments lol. They resorted to trying to speak over him, insults, get in theri feelings and get angry. If you actually think he was decimated in that video, you're delusional. He stood 10 toes down and with broke down any argument sent his way, Democrats are a joke lol.
So Mr. Shapiro clearly thinks there should be some kind of immigration policy that considers a persons place of birth, ethnic background, country of residence.... Perhaps someone should ask him where he got his hat.
When Ben says he wants to restrict immigration to “the best and brightest” he is basically saying he wants skilled workers filling positions that are in need especially young single people with advanced degrees. And while we do need this, what he is not saying is that he doesn’t want poor people searching for a better life and/or fleeing war and political persecution. It’s the antithesis to “give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free…” but these conservatives just won’t say it out loud. And by the way, this immigration system of only letting in this specific class of applicants would leave many sectors of our economy from agriculture to restaurants and other service industries completely fucked.
It’s really shortsighted even when just focusing on people with advanced degrees. There already isn’t enough (relevant) jobs for people with degrees and it leads to a lot of frustration. Eventually a solution is needed or the frustration grows and morphs….
Some of the best and brightest citizens come from poor immigrant backgrounds, the true "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" conservative mantra.... Whatever happened to that? 🤔
It's really sad to see the comments here. As a black woman, a lot of what he stands for makes sense to me, especially regarding DEI and how it is being implemented, which I totally am against. The thing is, I started to develop critical thinking skills instead of wanting to "fit in". I stopped being angry for no reason and actually LISTENED to people that had different views than I did. I may not agree with everything, but what is the point of arguing just for the sake of arguing based on how I feel about something. I was told that I should work 10x harder than white people but that advice was based on how people felt instead of providing evidence and facts on why I should work 10x harder... and what that even means. When I reflected on my life when developing critical thinking skills, I made observations on how I've progressed through my life and interactions I've had with others, specifically white people. One of the things that surfaced was that when giving money/food to homeless individuals, it was mostly to older white men. I have had many realizations that what I was being told about what my life would look like being a minority was very wrong. My example should also give understanding that not all people of color have the same experience and a generalized narrative should not be forced upon them. People, understand no matter what side you are on, there are inconsistencies and bad behavior. People in this country, at least, are being conditioned to riot against each other because someone simply does not agree with them. The disrespect is insane and it seems a lot of people are allowing their emotions to be manipulated and controlled. The freedom from that manipulation and control is amazing and I now have more self-respect and respect for others because of this.
For those (including Sam and Emma) who don't understand how insane the premise is, he did not get timed out. You get to talk until the majority of the other people raise their flags. This means that if you don't immediately get people on your side, you might only speak for a few seconds, giving the main person a huge advantage.
Its doubly insane cause all you need is a self-absorbed group of egotists who got something to prove and every possible debate dies within seconds they specifically do not feel seen or heard. I think this is exactly the dynamic with this particular group btw.
@@PartisanGamerDE What's interesting is that the Conservative ones actually last longer, because their group think means they don't have any new or conflicting points of view. So it's just a matter of how well they think the speaker is communicating the same canned points, which often comes down to how badly the Leftie is humiliating them. I find that these 25 Leftists (or Liberals) tend to interrupt each other far more, because each one has their own opinion, and they believe that their point of view is better suited to debunking the talking point at hand.
it spins me out how much Americans talk about freedom like they're the only free nation or something.
Ah, but he has the plausible deniability of his "American-style freedom" phrasing. Whatever that means is anyone's guess. Presumably the freedom to die of a treatable health condition because you were afraid of bankrupting yourself if you went to the hospital.
@@sbushido5547 Or (Cody voice) the WEST. Which means any pocket of white people, and some Asians, anywhere in the world that are convenient to his argument.
@@sbushido5547 Very true. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways.
@@sbushido5547 It's code for rich people have absolute freedom and everyone else has nearly none.
Are they truely free?
Ben is in his 40’s. Why is he still debating college students?
Because that is the best he can do.
Because he needs to stand on their shoulders to feel tall
It's easy to look good debating the inexperienced, as long as you ignore the inexperienced part.
He will only debate someone when he feels he has some advantage. He tries to irritate as his main tactic and younger people tend to be less disciplined. He’s completely disingenuous and only repeats talking points from right wing billionaires
He's still too scared to debate their professors 😅
Shapiro speaks at 200 bpm. Bullsh!t per minute.
2:50 - Ben glitches out and can't fast-talk his way out of his bind
It’s a form of Gish gallop on Shitpiro’s part.
Thatswhymagatsthinkhesreallysmartbutifyouactuallylistentowhathe'ssayingit'sreallynotthatintelligent.
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I would like to remind Ben Shapiro that as a fellow Jew, a ship named St Louis full of Jews running away from the Nazis was turned away by the US, wonder what Ben would say about this
I'm pretty sure he doesn't know. And wouldn't care if he did.
He has a serious case of the “yeah buts” he’d pivot with yeah but.
And I love how Ben talks about how he wants immigrants to honor other Americans beliefs and lifestyles (all while wearing a Yamika) which NOT ALL AMERICANS WEAR!!!
He does know, that's why he's helping usurp american money to israel as a payback
@@blevenzon he would blame Democrats.
Ben doesn't do too well when he is outside of his echo chamber
Him, Tucker, Jesse and Charlie should perform on each other in a room
@@MDTFoodAndTravel...they probably have 😅😂
Or outside a college campus which is why he’s *still* doing it
Why else would he debate almost exclusively people who are 15 years younger than him?
It's crazy how bad he looks when he faces a well-spoken opponent face-to-face in a neutral room. Clearly, it's easier for Ben to battle nervous college students from behind a podium, in an auditorium filled with people who already agree with him.
Ben Shapiro’s voice makes my head hurt.
Use AI to lower it a half-octave. It'll make him sound less like a chipmunk and more bearable. Maybe slow it down at half-speed too.
Sounds like he's on hormones.
Makes my ears bleed too
4 comments down and it's just an insult. Congrats lefties, you're pathetic
Same here. I'd rather listen to a squeaky old door then that guy.
So, what Ben is saying is... he wants really bright and talented immigrants to come in and take all the top jobs, while leaving the grunt work to American citizens? That's definitely a new talking point on the right, haven't heard that one before.
Think trump said that
I have Louis ck did a joke about it 14 years ago
"Legally", they want subhumans for the gig economy
Israel and India are working together, someone in the know said it’s going to get very hard for standard middle class guy and regular immigration is going away cuz AI and automation.
Let's be honest here, the bright and talented immigrants to America ALL come legally, and the majority of them are from Asia, specifically India, Japan, China, and Russia. They come here and become doctors, computer programmers, engineers, research scientists. The white collar jobs are largely comprised of whtes and Asianss, the grunt work mostly the others.
Debate Wizard here!
Thanks for highlighting my debate, I’ve been a fan of the show for a long time now. Let me know when you’re ready to step down Sam I’m ready 👍
You did good in your debate 👍
Really impressive!
I watched the full debate. Didn't see in any shape or form you defeating him. Lots of projection and refusal to answer/focus on Ben's points. Well done
well said! You ran rings around that muppet.
Didn't win the debate but moral victory that you didn't do as bad as the others and didnt come across like some of the other angry people who seemed to just want their chance at shitting on Shapiro.
Ben is a joke. "Screening for ideology" sounds like he only wants people that believe what he believes.
Yeah. The question "American style freedoms like gay marriage or reproductive healthcare?" would easily expose the subjective nature of his idea.
Pretty sure the germans did that in ww2
Until USA becomes United States of Zionism. Ben is full of himself. Huh.
Saying this, about the usa, while displaying a circle on top of his head, doesn't go down well, let me tell you....
Meaning pledging allegiance to Israel
If Ben Shapiro applied for a driver's license and it took ten years to get it to him, do you think he would consider himself to blame for getting ticketed for driving without a license, or do you think he'd blame the DMV?
💯
Great analogy!
I think he'd blame Muslims.... somehow.
US immigration is not just about how long it takes. It also takes money and even with money, we only allow certain amounts people to migrate here from each country.
So if you're a Mexican laborer who wants a future for their children without being kidnapped, raped or killed by narco terrorists, you're just fucked. That's why they come here illegally. They're not bad people. They're just desperate. It's unfortunate that we can't think in terms of being _human beings_ who empathize with other humans above rather than being mere _Americans_ and viewing others as outsiders.
He would tell you that he would sit at home and slowly turn into a skeleton rather than drive illegally.
Shapiro is a pseudointellectual hack 😂😂😂.
Shapiro is intellectually dishonest and does quite a bit of cognitive dissonance.
He has absolutely no right to talk about who is allowed into MY ancestral homeland,
and knows NOTHING of american culture.
@@tenbumaka7899he’s out of touch with literally everyone 😂
And also the most obvious Mossad agent I ever saw
@@tenbumaka7899yep he certainly isnt native to Izrayhell or the USA
When I was an undergrad I used to be a little intimidated by Ben Shapiro because the guy was very good at citing facts. After getting my PhD in biology, publishing papers, getting peer-reviewed, and learning how to use statistical analyses I realized that having all the facts means absolutely nothing if you're not interpreting them correctly or are cherry picking them. My first paper was rejected six times because although I was correct in a lot of what I was saying, the way I tied my analyses and facts together were wrong in their conclusion. This is the game that I think Ben Shapiro relies on, he thinks that by citing a few facts from a few papers, he's going to make a point, but most researchers can easily tear apart Ben Shapiro when it comes to the nuance. This is why Ben usually debates college students because they're still too young to really defend themselves properly
You can make anything true with "facts" and remember "facts don't have feelings" unless they fo again Shapiro LOL. I always saw through his BS but I'm probably older than you
Damn the copium here is astounding
This isn't science it's politics
Also academia is a joke these days with how many nonsense dissertations and publications that get approved
10000%
The misrepresentation of facts is one of the biggest hindrances to the current political state of affairs. And it's not a matter of age, as maga clearly shows. It's probably due to many factors. But one is you have to be able to keep an open mind, and prioritize truth and honesty above partisanship. Obviously this is a bigger issue the farther one goes to the right, but it occurs on all points of the political spectrum.
One random, and inconsequential, issue, that popped up for me recently is the change over from bc/ad to bce/ce. This change was made purely to cosplay as a moral entity watching out for the sensitivities of other people. But it's fundamentally dishonest.
@@JohnSmith-to5ow "fundamentally dishonest"
that's an amazing display of emotion tied to nomenclature that harms/changes nothing in your life.
interesting ... and telling ...
I was a legal migrant to the US, Middle school teacher (public school system in MA) my visa got cancelled because a clerk did not submit my papers for a renovation in a timely manner. I had to leave the life I started building after three years of hard work. It ruined my life plans after years of working, paying taxes and contributing to my community. The system as it stands right now is broken and uncaring. No wonder people just decides to skip it and try make it without papers.
That is complete madness. What the hell is wrong with my country?
The Democrats have been in power for most of this century. Why haven't they fixed it do you think?
@@quinnrosenberg3500 Too many illegals for a start!
@@quinnrosenberg3500its called human error and we have so much of it in every aspect of life it’s appalling the system needs major updates
That is INSANE. As someone who plans to immigrate to a foreign nation to be an educator, this is a nightmare situation. Thank you for sharing, the US is so broken it's crazy
Your comment: "Ben Shapiro's arrogance is on display here" is absolutely spot on.
He seems to harbour a superiority complex of epic proportion.
A superiority complex is really just an overcompensated inferiority complex. Shapiro has a very obvious angry small dog energy. He's acting arrogant because he's a scared little boy
I think it comes from being considered a "gifted student" as a kid; he's got that "gifted" arrogance where he thinks he knows everything and is afraid to learn something new lest he look stupid, so he rationalizes to hell and back his ignorant af beliefs and never tries to challenge them because he doesn't know how to challenge himself.
@@thekarret2066 I love tou said "considered gifted", he looks like he was a serious child who act like a little adult and that made his family think he was a genius (they were wrong)
@@thekarret2066 When it comes to the transgender community, I think he has done the research and is not ignorant. He just _fundamentally_ disagrees with what trans people believe, and what they want to do to themselves.
What do you expect? He's a Zionist and one of 'God's chosen people'.
I'd pay money to see Sam Seder vs. 25 libertarians, to be honest.
Massacres are against the law.
I hate this format, but that I'd watch.
Just so long as the guy who argued for a squad of pro-bono Jason Bournes to take out the inevitable capital-feudal lords has an invite. I want more content from that guy
@danielmikula1375 Most people that call themselves "libertarian" in the USA have no idea what that means. They just think it means like "super-Republican" or something. Sam Seder is far more libertarian than Trump is. Real libertarians are anti-war, pro-immigrant, pro-choice, pro-LGBT, pro-democracy, pro-"free press", etc. ....
I would pay to have Sam Seder, Emma, John Iadarola, Cenk Uygur, Ana Kasparian, Hassan, Farron Cousins, Benjamin Dixon, Francesca Fiorentini, Trae Crowder, Jimmy Kimmel, Seth Meyers, Jon Stewart, Lewis Black, Bernie Sanders and the cherry on top to annoy him AOC put Ben in the center. Let's go Ben!
Ben Shapiros voice is so irritating 🥴
Good one
I absolutely love where this guy went regarding ideology. Tell me Ben, what ideology should be banned in the USA? Are there beliefs that should not be allowed in our nations? Which ones? How do you decide? What freedom of speech/belief/religion, etc. do you think should not be allowed?
Stop lying, Ben Shapiro. You want there to be religious and ideological tests for citizenship, which is definitionally unconstitutional. You are a theocratic fascist. An alarming position considering your ancestry, aside from all the other reasons it's also despicable.
Talking like the micro-machines guy doesn't help your case. Your educational pedigree is nothing more than a demonstration of how bankrupt and useless those criteria actually are.
I went to school with too many people like Ben Shapiro. They are the people who memorize the book, but have no concept of what it means. But they get really good grades, which is all that seems to matter now.
Anyway, dude kicked Ben's ass. It was fun to see.
Epic comment 👏
But ole’ Ben hates himself because he thought he could make it in Hollywood as a writer and failed.
@@topherhaynie7358 That's really it, for all of them. Deep resentment and insecurity.
He’s made clear what ideologies he believes immigrants should have coming into the country. Your point about having tests around religious test is false and was NEVER mentioned. Having tests around ideology is important, I don’t know why you’d disagree with that. Do you really think we should allow ANYONE in even if their ideology is the antithesis of freedom? Keep in mind there are people who will kill gays
Spot on!
For almost 12 years I tried to asked The United States Navy to help me get my US Citizenship, but I failed. Yes I served The United States Navy and actually retired. The only reason why I'm able to gain my US Citizenship is when Bill Clinton signed the Executive order to allow me to get it because of the first Iraq Conflict under Bush, Sr. Immigration is a very complicated process that people like Ben Shapiro should not pretend to know anything about. Through all the years I've been begging The United States Navy help me get my US citizenship, I've learned quite a lot about the process that I would have otherwise been unable to avail myself of had the threat of dying while serving this country didn't happen. I'm really sick of people who pretend they only hate "Illegal Immigrants".
@obbie1osias467 I don't think you failed at all. You made a tremendous sacrifice and should have been given priority over citizenship!
Didn’t fail and gave more to the country then a lot of us❤
Nah they failed you. Don't put that on yourself man.
I don't understand why an immigrant that serves in the US military doesn't get citizenship when they are honorably discharged. Should be automatic.
Thank you for your service ❤
Ben Shapiro has the gift of talking fast and over people. I’ve got news for him. Some people see right through his bullshit. Yeah and I’d love to know what American culture he’s talking about too.
There's no way Melania got in with an Einstein Visa
Facts 😂😂😂
Getting one and deserving one are two different things.
They aren't difficult to get. They aren't actually called Einstein visas. They are just for folks who are the top of their profession. And I detest her.
No way, no how.
Fact
Shapiro's ideology means love for Israel and power for Israelites.
Shapiro is a hypocritical, racist Zionist. Who selected his ancestors to come here? Nobody.
Yesssss..... finally.... truth.....but be aware....The Chosen.....will not let this pass..... truth is painful reality.Thanks
He forgot this country rejected a lot of jews seeking asylum prior and during WW2. He thinks he's one of them.
And that's the problem.
😂
The guy who debated Ben Shapiro is just great. His tactic is keep digging Ben with question based off Ben’s own answer just to confirm that his answer doesn’t make sense, lack of consensus, or inconsistent. It’s great to see Ben exposed himself in this debate. Bravo! my dude knew what to do to face Shapiro. He needs a podcast.
The whole debate just exposed the left, the hypocrisy and the dishonesty. Not to mention, the utter nuts.
Exactly
actually his tactic was talk over ben until people think that he won because ben could only reply with 1 word before being talked over again
@tom-ment-Capybara, so Ben couldn't counter his own gish gallop tactic when it was used against him? If Ben had anything substantive to say, he would have, but he was too busy hanging on the ropes, gasping. This dude buried him fair and square. Ben was outclassed.
@@tom-ment-Capybarabecause, capybara, Ben's opinions are well known and if he had something to say he would have not backed down. He stopped talking because he didn't know how to respond. He didn't know how to respond because he knew he was caught not making sense and had to invent a new kind of immigration test which is the silliest thing he said all debate.
Ben Shapiro's voice sounds like a squirrel getting trapped in a fireplace.
😂
Fast forwarding an audio track.
Americans always selling some bull about America being the promise land.
If you are in America your ancestors were either kidnapped and sold there.
Down on their luck - willingly or unwillingly handed the option to start over in a new place.
Or an original inhabitant with your ancestors mostly killed, their land stolen and you are rarely part of the conversation.
America's real magic is to have seeded a system with the ability to exploit all these horror stories and extract wealth as a final product.
The type of immigrants these idiots lust for already have more than enough and have no need for America.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
sounds like you're resorting to insults when you can't make a point lol
why people would be dumb enough to even tolerate Ben Shapiro for even two seconds is beyond me…
Because otherwise ' antisemitism '.
That's what the clock was for - the time someone tolerates Ben Shapiro. So far, this guy is setting records.
@@DunmoresMovieMania lmao
Millions of people are stupid enough to vote for Trump, so…
@@twitteringothers5059 shapiro isn't a "semite!!"
Ben Shapiro the type to remind the teacher about homework....
LOL
He's the type to tell the teacher what he could make harder for the next year students.
The type that has a rich daddy that pays someone to do his homework and then reminds the teacher for everyone else to turn it in to show off his unearned work. While enjoying watching all the others suffer and snarks about being superior.
He was Martin Prince ("The Simpsons").
No doubt! 🤭
@@hadara69 No, Martin is actually smart.
“Ah Mr Shapiro if you only knew how ridiculous that statement is you wouldn’t have said it.” Andrew Neil summed up Shapiro’s entire “career” with that quote.
I still go back and enjoy that gem 😂
@@Level1Hera Same. Love love love that interview 😂
@@Level1Herahe lost a debate to a guy not debatibg him
@@Level1HeraSame, that interview never gets old!😊
@@mozi3051”I just asked you a question.” Another gem from that interview after Shapiro started loosing his mind.
Shapiro delivers shit in a silk bag.
😂😂😂
The comments in the jubilee video is an absolute shitshow. A lot of Ben fanatics shitting on the transguy in particular.
I saw that too. The trans guy gave Ben his own medication and they don't like that.
I love that dude. Ben called him bro then immediately regretted it
@@SumuduVNagodavithana ah no not really. The “trans guy” just went on an unhinged rant to demonstrate his/her severe victim complex. Was kinda embarrassing tbh. Dude needs to lay off the testosterone, it’s addled his/her mind
cuz you know, facts over feelings 😆
It was good for a general rant, but not as a debate tactic
Shapipi got absolutely rolled lmao.
Shapipi, lmfao
Wet. Ass. Sha-P-Word
Why the name Shapipi?
Nah, go to the actual video and he's getting a majority of the support.
@@straumboney1903 "Majority of the support." Why would that have any relevance to whether he's actually right or wrong?
The debate wizards name is Mason and he is a known Hasan fan
Whole name please. I'm interested in looking him up
@@BryanWhite-kx2vt He goes by onehandpolitics on all his socials
Ah yes I remember that, the Hank Pecker fan
Man it's a shame he's a Hasan fanboy and not Destiny enjoyer, moderate liberals really need more good debators like Mason 😭🙏
Hasanheads in the chat
I wonder if Ben's ideology examination would have cleared any of the following:
6th Street Baptist Church Bombing - kkk, 1963
Unabomber - Ted Kaczynski, 1978-1995
Oklahoma City Bombing - Timothy McViegh, 1995
Centennial Olympic Park Bombing - Eric Rudolph, 1996
Wisconsin Sikh Temple Shooting - Wade Page, 2012
Charleston Church Shooting - Dylann Roof, 2015
Congressional Baseball Shooting - James Hodgkinson, 2017
Charlottesville Car Attack - James Field, 2017
Pittsburgh Synagogue Shooting - Robert Bowers, 2018
Escondido Mosque Fire and Poway Synagogue - John Earnest. 2019
El Paso Walmart Shooting - Patrick Crisius, 2019
Elaine Massacre - 1919
Tulsa Race Massacre - 1921
Rosewood Massacre - 1923
Was there ever anyone with more appropriate initials than Ben Shapiro?
Haha, I get it.
Cuz all he says is Bull Shit.
That guy was amazing. We need to find him and put him on the show. I don't think I've ever seen Shapiro get owned so thoroughly, so quickly.
There was a British guy who owned him as well. Can't remember his name
This.
mehdi hassan@@leslie-annmills-gomez8763
He wasnt amazing he was just trying to find flaws when his whole objective is flawed. If it takes 10 years to come to America, try Canada or Germany. America is more third world these days anyways. If you need a job. Learn finance and trade. Alot if Nigerians are excellent day traders and crypto and are rich.
His name is Mason and he’s a Hasan fan. He did a odd one out vid where he pretended to be a republican and made a hasan reference in it
There is zero zero chance that your average immigrant of ANY stripe contributes less than they draw from the system.
Also uninsured Americans ALSO use the emergency room for nonemergency care.
The fact that Ben Shapiro, and those of his ilk, continue to perform in these forums this poorly and are so obviously outmatched yet continue to be paid to appear is all that you need to know about The divide on display here.
No one thinks Shapiro lost those exchanges lol, step out of your echo chamber
@@Mant111I really think it’s you who needs to step out of your echo chamber lmfao.
To deny reality this hard lmfao? Absolutely no one thinks he lost? 0 people?
@@sminking-ky9jc I imagine that when they taught about figures of speech at school you got shut in the bathroom or something.
The terror in Ben's eyes ☠️
His brain short circuited
Where?
@@ipercalisse579 wHeRe? his EYES. try to keep up.
Terror?? Where ??? 😅😅😅😅 you nut job making shit up
@@jeromefordesongsIn the video? Where in the video?
The only strain we had on our hospitals was during the pandemic that Trump severely mismanaged.
Public hospitals are strained in general. Too little funding for healthcare, too much waste on private health insurance, too few doctors trained, too little investment in rural health.
Yeah, and Biden did perfectly shutting down small businesses and creating quarantine areas for lockdowns over a virus with a lethality of 0.7%. The only reason Biden got into office was democrats wouldn't take the trump Vax, and conservatives wouldn't put up with a Republican lockdown. These people are all friends behind the scenes, and we are all being played with problem, reaction, solution governance.
He left it up to the states, what should he have done differently?
Wait, I'm asking someone who wore a mask outside and in the privacy of your own vehicle........
@@molasorrosalom4846Maybe actually send out the federal stockpile of masks and other supplies that were just sitting there in warehouses literally meant for that exact purpose?
@@molasorrosalom4846 He told the governors to call China and other countries for supplies that he had access to. Thousands died, and it fueled later numbers during the Biden administration. Household cleaners, bright lights.
He ineptitude is what got him canned in 2020.
I really hate the red flag system because half the people on the outside were raising their flags when Ben was talking, so Mason didn't even get the chance to counter when he had perfect rebuttals. They never let anybody cook.
They often cut off people making a point.
Yea those red flags suck ass.
When they do this format with liberals they’re the worst at letting people talk or sharing the floor. It works well with other groups
People just wanna chirp
They gotta cater to the conservative grift.
I hate shapiros arrogance
I'm in Georgia, you are right. We punished immigrants and our farmers and consumers went absolutely nuts. The governor himself and the legislature backed off the enforcement of such stringent regulations for pushing migrants out and they came back in.
What our stupid citizens learned was this. EVEN when the government allowed low risk criminal in the jails to be outside, picking the crops, that didn't last even a good two weeks. They preferred being in a cell. When the jobs were advertise for local citizens, no one showed up.
Since then you have NOT heard about any major raids on immigrants in my state. We let sleeping dogs lie. Everyone know their role and you won't catch any homeowner asking the guys who are painting the house or fixing the roof, whether they have 'papers' or not.
They will hate if we deported the labor in California. California produces like 50% of the produce and 100% of the a of human grade food crops for the USA. And since the farms are run by 50% undocumented labor that have been in the USA for decades they won't have to worry about egg prices anymore. They will be begging for them to come back and build them their own houses on our dime. At the same time those farmers are likely the ones voting for Trump so I say oh well! But bad for us massively.
Homeowners used to ask people for their "papers"? What?!! I've seen this in movies about nazis.
It's so amazing that Kemp and other MAGA bozos still say the opposite just to please orange Jezus 🤧
It's wild to think it was basically one guy who militarised the US/Mexico border, IIRC he was ex-head of the US Marines and he just didn't like how "undisciplined" the border was. Mexican workers would come up for the harvest, sleep out in the fields or in accommodation provided by the farmer, take their cash payments, and then go home. If where they were working was close enough to the border, they'd go home every night or every Saturday night to go to church on Sunday and be back Monday morning.
It's not as simple as that of course because the drug trade wasn't anywhere as huge then as it is now, and nothern Mexico did not have the same, um, cartel problems that so much of it does today. But militarising the border was a contributor. They should have kept it more like the Canadian border.
You are preaching to the choir my brother and I have this conversation all the time who is going to do this type of hard manual labor the generation of kids blacks no and most surely not the white kids Americans would starve to death because the migrants works in picking all the produce in the meat processing plants and when the blacks do not do those black jobs as Trump said who is left
The racists dog whistles coming from Ben and the right are deafening.
What is racist saying that people shouldn't be allow to enter a country if they unabomber and crazy activists?
@@ipercalisse579 Are you high?
That's why Trump is talking about Black jobs. These people want Jim Crow. Ben is so ignorant that he thinks Jewish people were treated well during Jim Crow since he grew up in white nationalist
@@ipercalisse579Have you thought about Professional help for your Paranoia.
@@ipercalisse579 Nothing, these people see "whistles" everywhere. They're lunatics.
Ben is not very good at this
How could he be bad at it, he has so much experience debating college students who haven't prepared at all in an environment he controls with an audience that supports him! Clearly he's a master debater! Master 'bater as we like to say.
He usually is. But unfortunately the production team failed to mention to ben, that some of these guys are actually intelligent and have some working knowledge on the topics to be debated over.
BEN IS BRILLIANT..the other one is a nobody
@@primashady4474Tell another joke and keep the laughs coming 🤣
@@primashady4474Ben's a Creationist and argues like one ..
You too, huh? 🙈🙉🙊
As the Statue of Liberty poem says: “Give me your rich, your doctors, your lawyers… so they can pick our strawberries. Thanks.”
The guy debating Ben is Mason OneHandPolitics! I was also one of the ppl debating Ben and we had lunch after filming, cool dude!
Thanks for your service. Glad that you all owned that idiot
So it was all an act no one believed what they were saying in the debate
@@carlcherry-zh2hpI don’t think he meant to say that he was having lunch with Shapiro but with the other guy.
@@carlcherry-zh2hp Me, mason and others had lunch, not Ben haha
@@olfrud yeah no lunch with shapiro LOL
Because Ben is only a quasi-intellectual!
If you believe Ben Shapiro is an intellectual, I've got a bridge in the desert for sale! 😂😂😂
Ah yes. Because only left wing people is intellectuals.
Wait how do we quantify someone's level of intellectualism?
He's not even a quasi-intellectual.
@@olaf3140 If their statements are actually cogent and not full of fallacies. Ben constantly strawmans, gish gallops, makes appeals to authority through 2nd or 3rd hand account, and is otherwise completely disingenuous with his points.
The classic example is his argument that people will just sell their homes if sea levels rise which is completely incoherent. Who would buy a flooded home? We are actually seeing investment companies and insurance companies completely leaving Florida for that exact reason.
Look up the definition @@olaf3140
oh did you hear? ben has come out as non-brainery
The trans man who out Ben Shapiro'd Ben Shapiro was marvelous!
Ben Shapiro doesn’t cut off other people when they’re talking though.
@@MrSupahLMFAO ☝️🤓"Ben wants to deny this guy's existence but he's being very polite about it"
Get out of here you freak LMAO
@@MrSupahLMFAOYeah he does.
@@MrSupahLMFAO lol wtf, ya he does all the time
@@MrSupahLMFAO "You act like we don't have Google or TV" - Charlemagne tha God (to Lara Trump just the other day)
Hate how culture and Ideology are being used interchangeably when they are very different things. You cannot allow the right to switch from talking about culture to ideology so easily.
One is lived lifelong experience that gets assimilated throughout you whole life the other is a deliberately adopted outlook that has a directed, active application.
Most refugees don't come with an ideology. They come because they starve, get bombed or have no future in their place of origin.
Ideology and culture are the same thing.
Well said
Your blind eyes about immigration is what made me left the left.
@@ipercalisse579Good, why would leftists wants racists on their side?
Ben didn't talk fast enough, you gotta go faster Benny, faster!
If he goes any faster, his voice will sound like a banjo played in Deliverance and he will scare himself.
@@Antares-Dragon love that tune
😏There's a reason Ben Shapiro has 7.9 million subscribers and Majority Report has less than 2million... 🤔 think about that for a moment. I mean really think about it.
Ben's used to an echo.
Never heard anybody talk back.
If he was used to an echo he wouldn't be here to begin with, bud. Use some reason, some brain.
Ben: "i believe .. I think.."
Beard guy: "So you are saying.. You believe.."
Theres a name for that.
whats the name
@@RatchetRorschach ideology
Homework, now look for Ben when he says those things.... you have an ideological obligation to enforce your specific opinions. Don't be a hypocrite. Are your eyes open? Or is your bias too consuming?
Fox Mulderism
Mason is my Hank Pecker
He was so good in that
Y’all are delusional. It always falls to insults or “gO LoOkKk iT Up oN gOooOGLe” instead of having a logical argument
“Screening for ideology”? Since when does group think and homogenous ideologies make a society stronger?
In 1993 Donald Trump was checked for doing this in a House hearing by Rep Miller. Shapiro just did the same thing. A based on what “they” look like approach. Bigotry on display.
In USA the mass immigration through the xx century didn't cause society collapse because was prevalent from Christian countries. We in Europe are experiencing a lot of immigration by Muslim countries and we are paying consequences. Muslims proved they think immigration as sort of sharia mission to colonize. The left is very blind to this stuff and they just think it is humanitarian to let more and more refugees when a country can't even give security and decent job and life to his own people, immigrants or natives. You want chaos? You are welcome, just let us sure it happens inside universities and not where civilized people (Indians, Chinese, Europeans, Jews etc.) live and thrive.
Since forever. A society with shared beliefs is stronger than a society with divided beliefs. Always has been.
6:40 um... yes? I would much prefer the USA stopped destabilizing countries around the world but accepting migrants fleeing those countries doesn't even meet the minimum for what the USA should be doing in response to the various catastrophes they've deliberately caused around the world. Actions should have consequences Ben.
Exactly. Don't do it in the first place, but also, hard yes.
Allende was Democratically elected President and was proposing dividends for his citizens from their copper mining industry. Nixon, Kissinger, and the Chicago boys couldn't tolerate a Democracy in America's hemisphere so Pinocet was installed who killed 1000s causing a mass exodus of refugees. Canada and Europe offered refuge.
It's funny how conservatives act like the US doesn't owe anything to the citizens of nations that the US government/military actively prevented from achieving any kind of prosperity. They basically make the argument that "yeah, it's our fault that those people need to escape from the country they were born in, but that doesn't mean we should help them."
Why does he talk like that? Causes me anxiety
He thinks he sounds smarter the faster he talks.
It's call a Gish Gallop. If you throw so much at your debate opponent that by the time they refute or fact check one point, a whole bunch more have flown by too fast to answer, you can claim you won and all your fanboys will say you destroyed them.
The head shaking that accompanies it too. Makes me nauseous.
It's his schtick.
Pathetic. Slow him down he just sounds mentally ill. 🤭
He does it as a form of Gish gallop.
Shapiro has no basic idea of how difficult and how long it actually takes to become an American citizen .
That is because one need to make sure the person is INTEGRATING to society, and isn't there as the ENEMY.
It's weird how Ben, someone who loves to talk about potentially morally abhorrent people who support left-leaning ideals but didn't like being reminded that he shares the same view on immigration as a Nazi. Wonder Why. I'm somewhat surprised Jubilee even asked Ben to do this. He's still relevant, I guess, but it's abundantly clear to anyone who isn't an absolute simp for Ben that when he's not talking to charged-up teenagers, he's pretty unimpressive.
Can’t remember who said it but the emperor has no clothes and if at this point you can’t see it then you are either a simp for Ben or being willingly ignorant. Probably both.
💯
He wears his Yarmulke as a shield. If you say word one about him supporting Fascist ideas he whips out his Jewish identity like a trump card. Oh wait... I didn't even mean that... ha.
You should have said first graders oh wait even they stomped him
@@themajesticmoose8147 Hans Christian Anderson, from Denmark, which was #1 on the Democracy Index the same year it was #1 on the Press Freedom Index and #1 on the Happiness Index. In 1976 America was tied with Denmark on the GINI index of wealth inequality. EDEN is the stock market ticker symbol for this Capitalist Democracy. 200 years after America was born it reached parity with EDEN. Then reagan's trickle-down feudalism took over, killed the middle class, and revived the plantation economy with prisons for profit employing prisoners for 8 cents an hour at hard labor who are imprisoned for life for a joint or shoplifting under 3 strikes and mandatory minimums...A Feudal Autocratic Republican Theocracy or F.A.R.T. has been ruling America ever since. I think it stinks.
My parents would not have been able to immigrate to this country under Ben Shapiro policies
Ben Shapiro jew parents wouldn't have either
Neither would Ben Shapiro's ancestors
So?
My parents wouldn't have been able to, either. 99.9% of immigrants wouldn't be allowed under his proposed policies - and that's sadly by design.
Neither would Shapiro...
The "medical benefits" Ben accuses migrants of "mooching off of" make up a whopping 0.1% of the national medicaid spending. Ben can ramble all he wants but the facts don't match up with his rhetoric
And he also conveniently ignored the massive economic benefits that mean that undocumented immigrants are absolutely not a net drain, they're a net benefit
I don't think Ben knows humility
This is why Shapiro barely leave the safety of this channel. Real world, gets real push back.
I think this twerp thought he was gonna destroy these kids.
The yarmukle is clearly a force field that cannot allow facts through its zionfield.
Horrible as Ben is, your comment is actual antisemitism. Ben's religious expression has nothing to do with his arguments, even if he may think so.
@@redstatesaintTake a joke.
@@redstatesaint- antisemitism 😂😂 omg snowflake
@@trashpanda3837
So Jew hatred is your idea of a joke? What’s next, skits about ovens?
Shapiro sounds like a Chipmunk on helium . He also needs someone in the background around shouting "Alvin.....ALVIN!!! " whenever he opens his mouth lol .
I work in a conservative dominated business, and i cant openly say im voting democrat because i fear retaliation and being ostracized. Calling someone a democrat at my place of work is a serious insult. We are in an era of politics that people cant freely express their opinions. This is very frustrating.
What do you do?
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I think the real problem is that you know full well the warmongers and corporatist rats are deep in bed with the Democrats and you're still openly telling people you're voting for them.
Hard doubt. Conservatives aren't the ones who try to destroy you and call you all sort of names as soon as you reveal your political beliefs. There's a reason if there's a meme about the "tolerant left".
Projection alert!
Don’t like conservatives? Fine. Find something with some meat on the bone.
Fast talking has nothing to do with intelligence little Ben.
Thats just how he talks fool. Talking and trying to sound smart has nothing to do with being smart
@@SharkeniteNOBODY talks like that at all, his whites ass CHOSE to talk fast so that he can speak over people and act like an arrogant jackass!
Ben Shapiro would not pass an ideological screening to come into the US.
Morons think Ben lost here.
Ben did -- he was wrong factually on just about everything.
Damn… obliterated.
It's not immigrants' fault for not having documents, it's the US government's fault for not providing them in a timely fashion.
That is so stupid, they have to go through the process. It took me 10 years ....HISPANIC LEGAL AMERICANS FOR TRUMP
@@primashady4474Why is the process so long? We had a chance to hire more immigration judges, but Trump wanted to run on a crisis so he told the GOP to stop the border bill that gave so much to the GOP.
The reason why it takes so long to apply for american citizenship is because there are millions of people applying and you expect the government to background check everyone within a few minutes per person? You also got to factor in other countries at fault for taking a long time to send in their criminal record to the American government. American governments are flawed and slow, yes, but other countries government should take the blame too. If the mexican government takes 10 years to send someone’s info to the american government, what should they do? Just give him a free citizenship just to find out that he used to be an underground druglord?
@@MrSupahLMFAO No it is not the millions. It is setup to not get them through so they can be exploited as slave labor.
@@primashady4474 you realize he's still gonna try to deport your ass
If someone can dictate what citizens' ideologies should or must me, how would this be a free country?
Why doesn't Ben just move to Jerusalem?
Jubilee doesn’t bring on liberal commentators, only right wing one. They brought back one of the “Woke teens” (Dean Withers) who was in Charlie kirk’s video but he’s far from a paid professional. he still demonstrated you don’t need oil money to make Charlie Kirk look dumb.
😂 nobody made Charlie Kirk dumb. Everybody else looked rather dumb or stoned at that debate. You really think this is looking good isnt it?
Note that Ben Shapiro’s initials are BS.
I have never seen in my life an arrogant man like that Shapiro. He is ill.
In my opinion, he & Charlie Kirk are two of the worst! Although I find Shapiro a little more tolerable to listen to than Charlie Kirk. Kirk is so far down the Trump “religious” rabbit hole, that every time he opens his mouth he can’t help but bring it back to his bromance for Trump & religious beliefs… which in itself can be problematic. I just can’t.
The temporary protection status was put into law by a Republican president, George H W Bush!!! Does anyone know this!?! The Haitians were brought here under that law. They needed them in Ohio!!
He needed cheap labor. Come on if Republicans wanted immigration issues solved , they would’ve made eVerify mandatory not voluntary. It’s all Bullshit by Repugnants
I love that when he said American freedoms all the red flags went up, that symbolism is hysterical.
In my opinion he doesn’t really know anything about immigration legal or illegal , it seems he just knows what he hears from other people. That’s why Shapiro is getting irritated with someone that has done his research on the issue.
Ben is a walking logical fallacy.
to remind everyone Ben is the guy who said the solution to rising sea levels, is just having people sell their beachfront houses, which, if the sea level rises will be underwater. So it’s not surprising that he is confused that making immigration so freaking hard pushes people into you illegally immigrating to America.
poopiro thinks he's a benefit on society lmao
His name is Mason!
He is a part of Hasanabi community! I think he is a teacher ❤
Ben Shabeardo the left leaning more approachable Ben Shapiro.
Bens a Jew right? He wouldnt be here without immigration right? Or is he not ethnically Hebrew?
No one would be there except the natives, and I'm pretty sure there was no legal process, "ideology screening", and most of the first settlers weren't qualified workers. This is all beyond hypocrisy
most jews aren’t ethnic semites…they are russians, polish or german europeans…
Where was the humiliation part?
I wonder if the Wilks Brothers have buyers remorse seeing that Ben Shapiro's debating skills are not as good as advertised.
A shockingly lack of introspective thought- Shapiro communicates a coldness.
That is what happens when you serve rich people. He doesn't earn money from average people. He is just like Turning Point USA. Astroturf funded.
Shapiro starts stuttering and a brief look of bewilderment hits his eyes. "Oh sh!t! This guy actually knows what he is talking about" 😂
None of the kids could even define what a woman is and yall posting like Ben was the stupid one lmaooo
Exactly!
Where exactly was he humiliated? Almost all those who sat with him didn't debate their arguments lol. They resorted to trying to speak over him, insults, get in theri feelings and get angry.
If you actually think he was decimated in that video, you're delusional. He stood 10 toes down and with broke down any argument sent his way, Democrats are a joke lol.
So Mr. Shapiro clearly thinks there should be some kind of immigration policy that considers a persons place of birth, ethnic background, country of residence.... Perhaps someone should ask him where he got his hat.
Have to have self respect to get humbled
Ben lacks
When Ben says he wants to restrict immigration to “the best and brightest” he is basically saying he wants skilled workers filling positions that are in need especially young single people with advanced degrees. And while we do need this, what he is not saying is that he doesn’t want poor people searching for a better life and/or fleeing war and political persecution. It’s the antithesis to “give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free…” but these conservatives just won’t say it out loud. And by the way, this immigration system of only letting in this specific class of applicants would leave many sectors of our economy from agriculture to restaurants and other service industries completely fucked.
It’s really shortsighted even when just focusing on people with advanced degrees. There already isn’t enough (relevant) jobs for people with degrees and it leads to a lot of frustration. Eventually a solution is needed or the frustration grows and morphs….
Some of the best and brightest citizens come from poor immigrant backgrounds, the true "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" conservative mantra.... Whatever happened to that? 🤔
It's really sad to see the comments here. As a black woman, a lot of what he stands for makes sense to me, especially regarding DEI and how it is being implemented, which I totally am against. The thing is, I started to develop critical thinking skills instead of wanting to "fit in". I stopped being angry for no reason and actually LISTENED to people that had different views than I did. I may not agree with everything, but what is the point of arguing just for the sake of arguing based on how I feel about something. I was told that I should work 10x harder than white people but that advice was based on how people felt instead of providing evidence and facts on why I should work 10x harder... and what that even means. When I reflected on my life when developing critical thinking skills, I made observations on how I've progressed through my life and interactions I've had with others, specifically white people. One of the things that surfaced was that when giving money/food to homeless individuals, it was mostly to older white men. I have had many realizations that what I was being told about what my life would look like being a minority was very wrong. My example should also give understanding that not all people of color have the same experience and a generalized narrative should not be forced upon them. People, understand no matter what side you are on, there are inconsistencies and bad behavior. People in this country, at least, are being conditioned to riot against each other because someone simply does not agree with them. The disrespect is insane and it seems a lot of people are allowing their emotions to be manipulated and controlled. The freedom from that manipulation and control is amazing and I now have more self-respect and respect for others because of this.
For those (including Sam and Emma) who don't understand how insane the premise is, he did not get timed out. You get to talk until the majority of the other people raise their flags. This means that if you don't immediately get people on your side, you might only speak for a few seconds, giving the main person a huge advantage.
Thanks, I had no idea.
Its doubly insane cause all you need is a self-absorbed group of egotists who got something to prove and every possible debate dies within seconds they specifically do not feel seen or heard. I think this is exactly the dynamic with this particular group btw.
Sam and Emma not understanding what they're commenting on? Shocking I tell you, shocking!
@@PartisanGamerDE What's interesting is that the Conservative ones actually last longer, because their group think means they don't have any new or conflicting points of view. So it's just a matter of how well they think the speaker is communicating the same canned points, which often comes down to how badly the Leftie is humiliating them.
I find that these 25 Leftists (or Liberals) tend to interrupt each other far more, because each one has their own opinion, and they believe that their point of view is better suited to debunking the talking point at hand.
"The way I make my eyebrows and my practiced look will intimidate and distract my opponent" Shapiro. 😂😂😂🤣
such a weirdo. who looks at people like that in real life?!
i wonder why ben shapiro only debates college students.......hmmmnnnn.....I mean a great debater like him should be debating people of a higher level
Norman Finkelstein would be good.
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He used the Socratic method to pull him in, then took over.