Ben Shapiro ROASTED By His OWN FANS Over Bill Burr Rant
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People are finally figuring out Ben Shapiro's initials 😂
Good one
Bovine Spongiform?
For extra salt on Ben Weasel Shaprio BWS (B@1l$ with S#$t)
The nasal nattering nabob of negativity IS full of it.
BS....doesnt just stand for ben shapiro 😂
Australian here. Broke my leg, spent 2 days in ER, 1 week in ward, had 2 surgeries and a year of monthly physio visits and xrays. Havent paid a dime. Shout out Australia.
I live in tx, it's cheaper for me to go to mexico a min of 3 times a year ,all expenses included, to get healthcare vs having insurance here. 😢 but I guess I'm woke 😂
Australian here as well, I have broken probably over 15 bones and had 4 surgeries (I’m bad at skateboarding) I would’ve had generational debt if I were in America
Also Australian here. Developed a Hernia a few years back. Spent about $200 AUD getting an Ultrasound to confirm it was a Hernia, but once it was confirmed, I was put in the public system and 6 months later surgery was done without paying a cent. Australia certainly has its problems, as does any country, but the Healthcare is one of the many reasons I wouldn't wanna live anywhere else.
Here you might have died. True
New Zealand here. Dad had an internal bleed, fainted and hit his head. ER, scans, blood transfusion x2, endoscope, week in hospital, medication, Zero. Paid $150NZ for the ambulance, 3 medics, support medicine car because it's weirdly separated.
Ben Shapiro fans think that talking fast is a sign of a high IQ.
It's called Gish Gallop. You spew out as much bullshit as you can, without regard for truth or accuracy, dividing attention on everyone else's responses. By the time you call one of his claims bullshit, he's already made four more.
I guess they also probably think their zip code and bank balance demonstrates intelligence.
I find Bens voice insufferable.
Well Ben is very smart actually . He’s able to fool his audience that the For profit privet healthcare system is good for Americans and universal healthcare is bad and so is having a welfare system that makes people lazy, but it’s a good idea for Americans to pay taxes and send it to Israel in billions of dollars. A country that has universal healthcare and half of its population on welfare. 😂
He is smart and their is a correlation between talking fast and high IQ. However that doesn't mean he is intelligent or right. He can use (and does) that ability for deceit and any nefarious reasons like terrible gaslighting. In short he is a smart charlatan.
Ben is okay with kids being bombed in Syria but a CEO of a big corporation that denied 1 in 3 claims killing millions and leaving thousands financially in shambles gets whacked and makes a full argument of why that's not epic and how it hurts his feelings
And that's why facts don't care about his feelings.
They both are jewi$h
@@jesuschristthefirstjojo.7565ben shapiro thinks his feelings are the only ones that determine the facts
Brilliant point.👏🏽🤜🏼🤛🏾
Behind the T is actually an i : Facts. I don't care about your feelings.
Ben is so disingenuous. When he talks about the USA having the "best" health care care in the world, he's referencing the fact that the US has some of the best facilities, medical schools, doctors and care strategies available. What Ben leaves *out* is the fact that those elements are typically only made available to a small, very wealthy percentage of the US population who can pay for it out of pocket. The "best" health care means little if the majority of people are suffering and dying because they can't afford to access any of it.
It's like claiming a Lamborghini is the best car in the world. Not that American health care is anywhere near what a Lamborghini is.
He should be looking at the amount we spend on healthcare (highest) versus longevity ( low)
He's taking about Israel's free healthcare courtesy of US tax payers.
Exactly. If you can afford it you have access to the cutting edge of medical science and physicians. If you're peasants you may have to go to a quack or don't get treated at all
@@obviousalias9506 He's confusing it with free Israeli healthcare.
Ben shaprio is a rich white guy who surrounds himself with other rich people. Bill burr is a guy who never forgets his roots and how working class people live
@@tommygunn2782Chappelle?
I've watched Bill since the early 2000s and listened to his podcast since its inception. I met him and his wife Nia a few years ago at one of his shows and I can safely say he's genuinely such a kind hearted down to Earth soul. One of a kind.
@@tommygunn2782 Well....Chappelle has fallen off that aspect, but 2000s Chappelle definitely.
His whiteness are option tho, he sometimes claim he's middle east kinda dude
And he really can't play the violin!🤣
Mangione: I do not pretend to be the ultimate authority on any topic.
Shapiro: I absolutely pretend to be the ultimate authority on every topic.
Shapiro was shocked at humility
Just because he said that doesn’t mean anything lol.. if you go out and off someone to make your point or get your way, you’re 1000% deeming yourself the ultimate authority by default lol.. how is that not obvious?!?!
That’s not honorable, that’s not humble.. I am not a fan of 99.999% of anything that comes out of Shapiro’s mouth and I think the greed that currently fuels capitalism is out of control and dangerous to the future of the world.. but this isn’t the way..
If this many people care, then it’s time to get creative and organize.. not shoot ppl de@d in the streets.. it’s uncivilized and savage.. you can say what the healthcare industry does is also uncivilized, but at least they went through the proper channels to push their policy to lawmakers.. so then what’s stopping us? Members of Congress are our employees.. we tell them what to do.. and if we haven’t done so yet, then we’re neglecting our position as the bosses of our own damn country..
@danh945 👌
@@gbmbg114 Offing someone isn't an argument dumbass.
"and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument" Like brother, you shot someone, and you can't explain what bothers you? Killing people "for a good reason" is terrorism
Half American and half Costa Rican. Little old 3rd world Costa Rica has free health care. Births are free. Kids and pregnant women get free care, no questions asked, no matter if you a tourist, illegal immigrant, or whatever. I pay $50 a month and it covers my wife and kids. Ben 'let them eat cake' Shapiro is so out of touch it cartoonish. You can't make this up.
If Breaking Bad was set in any other developed nation it would have been only one episode long. Walter goes to the Dr and is diagnosed with cancer, he then receives medical care required. The end.
Also that movie As Good as it Gets would've been way different.
So... You're not a statistician. 😄
@@ct6852
I believe you’re thinking of the movie The Bucket List 😉, but understood the reference and you’re correct!
ha.....so true
To be fair, a good part of the money Walter needs to make is for Walter Jr's college tuition.
But to be also fair, in any other developed nation college tuitions aren't so high you need to turn to the cartels for money.
It's absolutely amazing how Ben Shapiro manages to get it wrong on almost every single political issue. What a sociopathic robot
Wrong on _almost_ every single political issue? I am curious as to what you say he has been right on.
No, seriously, I want to know.
@@DavidRichardson153 I think they're just assuming that he has ONE good take, like believing in public roads or something... but even that is a stretch for Ben lol
He is the very definition of a useful idiot. The comment above mine seems really hostile for no reason btw 😂
There's a song somewhere in that.
You’re mistaken …
A robot probably has more of moral compass than him
Ben’s job is to keep his working class viewers, ignorant of class consciousness, and blaming all their financial problems on illegal immigrants instead of the wealthy elites.
RUclips forgot drag queens and transwomen in women’s sports.
That's exactly what the financiers behind him pay for
66% of bankruptcies in America are due to medical bills.
divide and conquer
I honestly don't know if he's that big on anti-immigration rhetoric, but the ethnicity he hates the most next to Middle-Eastern is probably African-American.
A Scottish person here, in the Uk we’ve got guy named Nigel Farage trying to get into politics in order to impose an American style health insurance system!
He's a trump supporter
Yikes!!
Oh my God! As a person of Scottish heritage please take him somewhere off the Orkney islands and see if he floats!
Make sure he doesn't win
Don't let him do it you will regret it
They've called Luigi a narcisist, a capitalist hater, and having a hero complex. Yet his manifesto shows none of that.
Let those greedy corporates and government indicts this guy as insane so he can be free and wake up more people and lead the change.
He's a crazy douche. You are the narcissist for loving him.
Except his actions show it. He chose to get injured doing extreme sport. He couldn’t afford health care so he’s allowed to kill?
@@BlastMaster-db4qp What? You're pathetic, what a reach...
@@BlastMaster-db4qpuh no. He ain't allowed to kill. That is why he is in jail. And his personal circumstances do not matter, the result is the same; death of a greedy mass murderer and now elites fear the people. Lets keep seeing Luigi as a hero so the elites fear the public when they think of abusing the people
Always funny to see Ben, a failed screenwriter who grew up in LA, call someone like Burr a fake working class guy
66% of bankruptcies in America are due to medical bills.
I can see why he failed. It's difficult write good stuff if you lack empathy
@@tromedlYou clearly haven’t seen the Oscar winning film “Lady Ballers”
Bill is always so real.
He wrote a white supremacist power fantasy novel, and these are the guys who will complain that media is getting "too political"
Remember, Shapiro thinks retirement is a stupid idea.
Matt Walsh thinks adults shouldn’t take sick days.
That’s the mentality of these people.
The worst thing is that I don't think they even believe this. Or if they do it's because they've never known real work because they make millions doing a fucking podcast. These talking points are mandated by their billionaire employees. If they say otherwise they will get in trouble. It's a death cult.
Really easy for Matt Walsh to say no one needs to take sick days, what work has he ever done?
Which is why I never watch or listen to the likes of Shapiro, Walsh, etc…
While they podcast from the comfort of their home
Well for us. Not for them
Canadian here. I had a foot fracture. It required 3 surgeries. One to put pins in, one to fix a clot, one to take pins out. I was in a cast for several months. Total cost to me, $12 for my crutches.
I later found out the cost of all this because I sued due to the accident that caused it and because the hospital was involved in this for the medical coverage, they get a portion of the settlement. Their total cost was approximately $9500. I wager that is still far less than what a hospital in the US would have charged.
We prefer you don't brag about your health care system. We have it bad enough...thanks.
I highly doubt it would be that low TBH
@@independent-ts6ys Us Americans need to know what other countries systems look like so we know it could be better. The moment it’s not discussed is the moment the American healthcare system wins, and I’d rather know I should demand a bill of $12 than the bill of $60,000
Ofcs you sued. You are white!
Thank you for telling your story ☺️. Maybe our government can take that out of Canada's playbook on how to do healthcare coverage for the people 🙌🫶🙏☺️💯🇺🇸💪.
Emma having to raise the pitch of her voice to emulate Shapiro is hilarious.
Fran Florentino on TDR did a really good impression of Ben
@@rogersun6184why are you so obsessed with Ana?
Ana has been slowly moving to the right fir years@@rogersun6184
@@rogersun6184 I opened them as wide as they would go and still didn’t see Ana on this channel. Probably because she is on a different one…
@@rogersun6184god this shit is so annoying. “I see it. I won’t elaborate further. And it’s your fault you don’t see my perspective”. Rage bait used to be believable 🚬
The system isn't broken. It's working exactly as intended .
66% of bankruptcies in America are due to medical bills.
The ruling class dispensed with noblesse oblige a while back. Now it's dog-eat-dog. Capitalism needs to be overthrown.
Yup!!!
...and that's the problem.
Freaking wimp
You mean….Ben Shapiro is a CORPORATE TOOL?! I’m shocked, I tell you. SHOCKED!
love this!
There is also gambling going on in here
Well, not that shocked.
So embarrassing I use to listen to that clown 😂
@@Glasstable2011sarcasm bro
Government subsidies implies that the insurance companies are double-dipping.
Why do they get backed by the government, which is backed by American taxes, have the right to charge premiums.
No different than school lunches. Why pay for something that's funded by the community as a whole.
Strange.
Canadian here, I've had the worst medical year of my life, multiple surgeries, many nights in hospitals, and different hospital stays. The only thing on my mind was how can I get better food and how to make the bed more comfy. The bill was never on my mind. I swear, American tales are horror stories to me.
CANADAA, FUCK YEAH! - From an Aussie
I can't imagine what its like to worry about IF i should go to the ER at 3 in the morning because it feels like my appendix is on fire rather than do what I did - oh this really hurts I'm going to the hospital
Me too. I'm from Scotland and have had a difficult couple of years with my health. I've had excellent care and treatment from the NHS here, despite all the stories about how terrible it is. It didn't cost me a penny at point of treatment and I'm more than happy to pay into our National Insurance system.
hell, yes. in the past 5 years they cured my dad's cancer, bolted my mum's hip and femur back together, fixed my hernia, gave my grandmother relief with M.A.I.D., and cared for my grandfather when he was dying. total cost: $0. we'd be bankrupt and then some without socialised health care.
@@alex-h7d2n shhh dont use the "socialised" term, it freaks out the Americans lol
I pay $630 to UHC a month. They pay zero dollars for anything. Even though they pay zero, they got my MRI canceled after a knee injury. They made ME pay for months of physical therapy before letting me get an MRI, an MRI i paid for entirely by myself! Delay deny defend is truth!
Hey I pay $822 to UHC per month through the ACA and I've been waiting for over a month for approval for an MRI on my torn left rotator cuff, and I can't even lift my arm! They've denied it once and now it is in "administrative review" while I wait and take more pain meds I don't want to take.
Leeches
@@vandal21891
That fuckng sucks. I hope things work out.
Wow, i pay 226€/month here in Germany and i personally think this outrageously high
🔫
From a retired physician working in the hospital for years. "Sorry for the family but I saw this coming. In the hospital we HATE united healthcare - they were the worst as far as denying post care stays, endless phone calls to justify care - so much a time suck and letting patients die. Their profits are made with blood and tears."
I think the CEO holds fault for running what's essentially a cartel and getting offed for his involvement.
@@AmazingMrMe123 If I were the kids of that CEO I would grow up to get my fathers job and deny all of you coverage for celebrating his death
@ronswanson1410 I'm not celebrating I'm saying it's his fault. Try and think about what the difference would be before making a response please.
as a outpatient family med doc, i despise united healthcare as well. i always ask my patients if they could just switch their insurance.
@@ronswanson1410 then let the people teach those kids the consequences of screwing over others.
When ben sees that we spend the most on healthcare and are ranked 42nd. He said it's because were rich!😂😂😂
Terrible health care system about to get solved by our terrible gun situation.
😂😂😂😂😂
That’s poetic justice.
Good one
Ah a silver lining finally.
Add in 3D printers
Justifies the murder of hundreds of thousands, is irate at the death of one billionaire. Ol' BS needs to grow a sack.
Probably because the hundreds of thousands had collective less money than that one billionaire.
Just noticed Shapiro’s initials are the abbreviation for “bullshit”. Kinda poetic jaja
@@freewilly1193 the rip off health insurance is the one thing that unites the country…
I think they denied over 150,000 insurers last year.
Figure how much they saved by doing that?
Billions.
I immediately have to watch the Ben Shapiro cartoon on Flashgitz after seeing this???
"People who have no money don't spend the money they don't have on going to the doctor or hospital. I'm very intelligent." -Ben Shapiro
"My wife's a doctor. "
@@arthurswanson3285she’s a very very dry doctor, poor thing 😂
@@klaythoring1326 "Wet-ass... p-word..." *shudders in Ben Shapiro
@@klaythoring1326 would you be wet ? 😆😆
@@klaythoring1326 🤣
Did y'all notice that the Shapiro graph had the y2 axis increasing exponentially in order to make the amount that we spend seem like less?
Well, I live in "socialist" Norway, and the maximum you have to pay here is 270 dollars throughout the year IF you need to see a doctor (you pay per visit, about 15 dollars) and you need medication. After that the state pays everything. When I got acutely sick, I spent two days in hospital and paid nothing, and my medication for chronic disease is always completely free. This is paid through taxes. There is NO WAY the US system "is better". This Shapiro arse has no clue what he is talking about. (And yes, we have private health care for those who can afford it too.) The US would do well to perhaps study the health care systems of other countries (as well as gun laws ...) and make people understand that calling things socialist is just to scare them and have the well-offs pay less tax.
Confirm 👌 live in Norway as well. I think out of 35%of all tax around 12%goes to health system (might be+/-few points 🤷) point being NEVER thinking that me being seriously sick means loosing my house,🤷
#1 reason for bankruptcy in the US are medical bills
Almost everyone in the US knows this, but there is no democracy here to actually enact this into law. Honestly, trying to convince people is a waste of time, since people are mostly already convinced (almost 2/3 support public healthcare). We just need more Luigis to scare the corporate class into conceding some basic rights.
We have legal bribing of our politicians by the ultra wealthy & big corps ...citizens united, lobbying, and also trickle down economics. This is why we will never get universal HC, all the insurance companies & pharma bribe them, the 1% (wealthy) dictate policy. Yes we are officially a corrupt oligarchy & function like a thrid world country. Wish I could move out of the US, but I'm chronically ill. 😢
The United States is a scam though, from top to bottom. If we did employ a public option, it would be so watered down as to be ineffectual (See the Affordable Care Act). It would be 10,000 pages long with 9,998 of those pages meant as carve outs to private healthcare industries. Even then, the Republican's would do everything they could to undermine and underfund it, then propagandize about it (like Ben is doing here) and then the private option would basically be the only one that would get any money at all. We'd have basically the same care with extra steps.
The US does nothing without a profit incentive. Too much of our populace buys into the fantasy that they're five minutes away from being a millionaire themselves, and doesn't actually want to see any taxes because they don't want to pay them in the event they make it to the upper crust on delusions about meritocracy.
From an American to a Norwegian, trust me when I say the US is a shithole filled to the brim with naive fools.
22:48 Ben saying that Bill Burr's wife is on the left when the only thing you can find out about her is that she's black, is such a telling confession
Every woman in her right mind is "left of Shapiro". Whatever her skin color she for sure doesn't want to be adressed as "ofBill". Because that seems what the Republican agenda will ultimately lead to... "Handmaid's Tale" with a side of "Idiocracy".
Well spotted. That is a walking, howling dog-whistle.
She gave Donald Trump the double finger at a UFC fight at MSG.
That being said, wanting to give Trump a double bird should be universal. Maybe it will be as the right finally gains class consciousness.
@@ClementYang24even most conservatives hated on trump in 2015 and early-mid 2016 and thought he was a dangerous fool. Then when he became the top candidate for their party they immediately disregarded that and started worshipping him. It’s frightening how quick I saw friends and family switch up completely so quick. Party loyalty is a mental illness.
@@ClementYang24I've worked as a political canvasser and there are absolutely Republicans who feel this way about Trump too. Who feels decorum is a critical value the president should hold and consider him an embarrassment to both the Republican party and the nation. There are both right and left wingers as well as centrists who hate Trump so I still wouldn't assume she's a leftist based on just that.
Canadian here. Ben's full of shit. I spent most of October in the hospital, had 2 cat scans, 3 x-rays, more blood and urine tests then I can count, was given 3 inhalers, numerous IV's, and 3 rounds of antibiotics. It didn't cost me a dime.
Well u payed thru taxes. It’s not free as Bullshite Shapiro says.
Brit here and second this. It's amazing how insular the US is and doesn't look around them about how the rest of the developed world does it. Same with guns.
Canadian here too! I had a minor emergency surgery this summer. Got it in about a week (and was told if it got worse, to go in and they'd do it immediately). All I paid for was parking.
Grandpa had cancer treatment, major surgery for it, AND heart surgery. All we paid was parking.
@@tomsochy1238US citizen here most of the citizens of the US wants to move to a universal healthcare system. The levers of power ie capitalist do everything in their power to prevent this shift. The amount of money that’s allowed to interfere in our politics has done irreparable damage to the social protections most Americans want.
@@stillmatic135 Health insurance companies would be destroyed, so of course they lobby against it happening. Greed trumps the common good.
Brit here: Having worked in our National Health Service for the past 15 years, I've seen the good, the bad and the ugly, but would take what we have any day and every day of the week over what you guys have in the US. We have universal level care that everyone can access, and we invest in public health/preventative medicine. We hold big food, big tobacco, and big alcohol more accountable to limit the damage they do to people's health. Medicines are actually affordable and free for anyone under 18, and pentioners and the unemployed. Yes, you might wait a little longer to access specialist care, but it's FREE at the point of access. For those who can afford to be seen earlier, there is the option of private health care. Health care should be a human right. I pay my taxes gladly, knowing they partly pay for our NHS.
This. From needing antibiotics for a swollen inflamed elbow to busting both arms up viaa bike accident I'm VERY grateful for what we have here and the relatively very little we pay to access it.
To quote someone I once saw on the bird site..
These three things should NEVER be operated for profit:
-Healthcare
-Prisons
-Education
as they conflict directly with:
-Life,
-Liberty, &
-the Pursuit of Happiness.
Agreed
Underrated comment.
Well said!
Damn, that comment really hits the nail on the head!
You forgot mass transit. Mass transit systems are heavily subsidized by their respective municipalities. That’s why a subway ride in NYC is $2.90
Friendly reminder that Bendejo Pepino makes seven figures easily by telling middle school dropouts how woke the Barbie movie is and doing dramatic readings of cardi b lyrics
Yep. Great contributions to society that guy makes.
Dramatic? I found his readings to be rather.....DRY
😂😂😂
So not macaroni in a pot@@ams197610
All so he can sleep on his bed made of money.
I had cancer last year. I've been paying $1,300 a month for insurance. My medication is $600/mo and is not covered by insurance. I tried to switch to a different insurance company and found out that none of the insurance companies will pay for my medication. They have set a letter instead suggesting three different medications all of which are hormonal, and I had hormone positive cancer. It's cheaper for them to prescribe me drugs that would kill me, then to pay for my drug, stay healthy and keep living. And my insurance company is allegedly a not-for-profit with their CEO making a quarter of a million dollars per year. Community Health Plan of Washington State.
😢😢I'm so sorry
That's absolutely heartbreaking. Keep strong.
🙏🏾 for you
Sorry you are going through this.
Canadian here. I was diagnosed with cancer 13 months ago. Direct out of pocket expenses for me probably amounted to less than $100 CDN, most of that being a lump sum I paid for parking since I'd be parking at the hospital frequently through Chemo and Radiation. Even the expensive injections to bring up my immune system (I forget all the technical words for that) didn't cost me-- though I had to do them myself. (and by myself, I mean my wife injected them in my tummy) There's added costs, like a dispensing fee on drugs (not much) and different food expenses as chemo really makes one change one's food preferences, so there's that. And lost wages, though chemo only knocked me down for about 8 to 10 days after each infusion, so I was able to work a bit through treatment. Being semi-retired and working part time, there was no sick and accident insurance. Now, we pay our premiums through our taxes, and i don't know how much that is, but I'm certain it's a good deal less than $1300 U.S. a month (!!!????). I don't mean to rub things in and as a fellow cancer survivor I know what a slog treatment is. I just want Americans to know Universal health care really does work for the patients. Is it perfect? Hell no. Is it even nearly as bad as certain private health care propagandists in the States make it out to be? No. Wait times? I went to Emerge on a Tuesday in early November last, had the tumour removed on the Saturday. I was home on the next Tuesday.(I might be off a day there plus or minus). Had to wait for oncology to confirm the tumour was cancerous. it was. Chemo and radiation started at the beginning of February, completed at the start of July. I have already started survielance, which included a CT scan back in August, and a colonoscopy last month. Again, I had to pay for parking, but other than that, no out of pocket, and both scheduled for my days off. Except I called in the day after the scope. The scope ain't bad, but the prep takes it out of me....
As a European it’s utterly boggling and sickening to think that people make money from people having miscarriages. It hurts my soul to think that there is a place on earth where that happens
Canada here. Last November I had a horrible gallbladder attack and taken to the hospital in an ambulance. I was at the hospital for 3days, 2 nights, having my gallbladder removed. I had 2 followup appointments poat surgery, one with the surgeon and another with my family doctor. My bill?? ZERO!!!! Not one penny. No fighting with insurance companies, no phone calls to providers, just scanned my Canadian health are card.
it's important that americans understand that when we canadians describe our health care we're not gloating. we're just trying to paint a picture of how liberating it is.
i'm from malaysia and my health care cost in government hospital is RM1 which is usd 0.2 cents.
As an American I’m having a hard time comprehending this…wdym it was free😂
@@cristoferantunez8734
Free at point of Service.
You know like when you've paid your taxes.....
Or your employer has paid your healthcare insurance....
but you dont have to pay again.
You don't pay the military directly do you, cause it's all paid via taxes...
Only difference is- it's not you against the healthcare system, it is every citizen together vs the healthcare system.
Numbers on your side help!
don't kid yourself, you are paying for it one way or another
Anyone who can do critical thinking knew that Shapiro is a PR representative of the wealthy people trying to keep the common man down. Now his full mask is off for his audience.
Let's hope these fans of his have a decent memory and he doesn't try to wash this under the rug in the coming days.
@@hazardousjazzgasm129they won’t unfortunately
It's been so obvious for years. He's an ACTUAL grifter. He's also owned by Israel.
Mathematician here. Ben Shapiro failed in math logic 101 by conflating correlation with causality. Just because rich country spend more on healthcare does not necessarily mean they spend more on healthcare *because* they are rich. However, more objectionable to me, is the fact that he is smart enough to know when he’s being dishonest.
Honestly, it is "an insult to the intelligence of the American people." Correlation doesn't mean causation.
True. The whole reason Healthcare companies can post record profits is a reflection of how much "care" they provide to people who have been paying them every month.
He DELIBERATELY confuses correlation with causation. That's always how he uses statistics to justify racism against black and hispanic people at least.
Yes, our trepanning drills are diamond tipped and coated with gold 😂
I’m an engineer, I also thought he miserably failed. He is almost never technically correct. How come?
The bet is not that you won’t get sick or injured. The bet is whether or not the insurance company will pay you and by how much.
Canadian here. He's misrepresenting BIGLY. Our taxes fund healthcare, public education, social programmes etc. just like the US. As individuals however, we don't "pay more" since we're all entitled to the same level of care. He's trying to make it sound like we get bills in the mail or have to whip out a card for every aspect of care and we receive, which is entirely false.
Shapiro is a damn liar and saddest of all he KNOWS it because his wife is A DOCTOR!!!
100%
Our medical system is better than USA any day
Ben gaslighting and lying to his audience 🙄
He talks alot of shit and doesn't get punched in the face for it
Ben Shapiro is a typical fast talking spoilt rich kid. Given EVERY benefit in life, No insight into the stuggles of ordinary people, no empathy, no shame, no clue.
A latter day Marie Antoinette.
Marie Antoinette wasn't as bad as she was made out to be. She never actually said "let them eat cake."
@@ridjeniteyeah it pisses me off when people keep using her as an example for this
@@ridjenitehahahahahaha, hot take
@@Nopadope Also accurate. She became a scapegoat for what her husband was doing, because it's generally easier to get angry at women.
He sounds like an AI on crack 😳
Ben is wrong, rich people in Norway doesn't pay more in healthcare, they pay more in taxes, which goes also to infrastructure, education, healthcare etc etc. But all our taxes goes to all this. But you don't pay more in healthcare even though you earn more. That's ridiculous.
It's such a fallacious point. One single medical emergency is going to far, FAR outstrip the teeny tiny cost I *might* pay in taxes because of a universal system.
Let's not even talk about the fact that a universal system costs the government less due to cutting out the insurance providers.
That would never work in the USA because the politicians would take, I mean “waste,” the money before it gets distributed to infrastructure, education, healthcare etc.
Norway also has more millionaires per capita than the US….. so
@@HypocritesExposdthey should all be paid minimum wage. And if they cant live on that then they should raise minimum wage.
@@HypocritesExposd This is a non-starter because every government has corruption. No society can be 100% corruption free. There's always gonna be politicians somewhere trying to get their own take.
But we should still aim to propagandize good policy and vote people in that align with policies that benefit the people.
IDK wtf I'm supposed to make of the graph that he showed. wtf was that? He destroyed himself with logic and facts and then failed to follow up with a coherent response.
I wish Ben’s audience woke up to the fact that he’s just making money by being rage baiting them to make money for himself. I wish more people developed class consciousness.
Give it a year or so, we're fully in the new gilded age now and it's about to get a w f u l. Desperation is opportunity for those outside the system to seize power, the dark days ahead could turn out to our benefit
So true. And they act like they're just soooo different from mainstream media when that profit motive is exactly the same.
Typical right-wing grifter for the poorly educated
@@Mae_Dastardly Those with the means and the drive to seize power are rarely the ones you ever want to actually see in power.
I don't think Ben is ragebaiting, he's genuinely incredibly out of touch.
Luigi decided to "vote harder".
Pretty hard and good
And he didn't need voter ID or perfectly matching signatures to get his ballot(s) cast.
Respect
He voted 3 times and then went back and voted again.
Allegedly 😉
Here's something funny:
Israel has fully socialized medicine and nobody in that country would ever trade places with the US in regards to healthcare. In fact, they have some of the best doctors and hospitals in the world.
I don't remember him ever blasting Israel for how they run healthcare and calling them "socialist".
You're also comparing a country that has 10million people vs 330 million. Do the math, one solution does not work the same for everywhere.
@@cameroncorrosive925yes 330 million. That makes the US able to make a bigger universal system
@@cameroncorrosive925 Except it would if everyone fucking did it. How lazy, stupid, and uncompassionate do you have to be, to go "Oh, we're just going to absolutely refuse to even try to do this really good thing, that would fix everything, because the work is too hard! Waaaahhh!!!"
That’s because he’s a Zionist liar
Who do you think pays for their healthcare ? American tax dollars 😂😂
Ben is not intelligent. He just talks fast enough to confuse people.
Gishgallop is what that’s called.
“He doesn’t have a solution to the healthcare problems in our country”
And your solution is what Ben? Selling your house to Atlantians and moving?
but I know someone who has a “concept of a plan”
😅
Sell it to who, Ben?
Yeah, I caught that too. Ben thinks you can’t be dissatisfied with a hugely complex system unless you are prepared to solve the problems.
@@danielzimmerman5837 (Obligatory) AQUAMAN?!?!
Can you imagine being in a relationship with Ben and having to hear that voice day in and day out?
I found myself zoning out and had to rewind to hear what he was saying!
Money's on arranged marriage
No, I can't😂
😂
His wife grew up around that annoyance her whole life. .its normal to her.
"Facts don't care about your feelings" FACT: Healthcare companies profit on denying care that should be covered.
And covering interventions that they should not be covering like expensive cosmetic hormones and surgeries for mentally challenged people who pretend to be the opp s*x.
should say "my facts dont care about THE facts."
Dear ben....
READ THE BACK OF YOUR COMPUTER!!!
As a spanish person your healthcare "system" seems insane and gives me a lot of anxiety. I'm broke and the idea of having to worry about money in a life or death health situation sounds like the scariest shit I can think of.
You don't choose your health. You could be the healthiest mf around and still get sick, or in an accident, or your mom could get sick. You just can't control this. So it's insane that if you're broke in the US you have to worry about how you're going to pay for it.
Emma's Ben Shapiro impression is pretty good XD
If SNL ever gets around to mocking the dweeb, please cast Emma and her bizarrely accurate Shapiro impression.
He sounds fast forward 😂
Emma was good but not as good as Francisca on TDR
She's actually a decent mimic.
voice isn't high enough though
My favourite part is towards the end. "How far does this go!? Are we gonna bump off oil barons and banking execs next?" Oh no! Someone please think of the poor billionaires!!!!
Yup
I don't see why not. These people think they're untouchable, I love them being scared.
@@netizen_m3919after the murder, most CEOs scrubbed their information from their websites and (supposedly) Wikipedia.
and our answer is "hopefully". at least he acknowledges he knows they're part of the problem
He's giving people ideas 😂
Here in Australia, one of my best friends got breast cancer. It was terrifying, but she received immediate, top notch treatment and reconstruction. Cost her $0.
We contribute 2% of our income annually to Medicare and get treatment whenever we need it. It gives me anxiety just thinking about not having that cover.
I’m sorry that you don’t have that and I think Americans have been conned into believing it’s socialist blah blah blah.
It is socialism.
Conned & fearmongered, yes.
@@alin81-82 who and what exactly are you directing that comment at?
My father recently passed away from prostate cancer. His lengthy treatment was no or low cost, and his final month spent in an excellent palliative care facility was zero cost too. No system is perfect, but our family's grief is not being compounded by losing our family home either.
@@othmaneelmansouri6314So!!!!!!!!! Pay your $100,000 hospital bill and love it!!!!!!!
Ben Shapiro, anesthesiologist putting people to sleep with his fast talk
Politics aside you are crazy if you defend American healthcare. 😂😂
66% of bankruptcies in America are due to medical bills.
I think it’s perfectly normal to condemn what Luigi did but defending the American healthcare system at the same time is just asinine
@@calmsine7767meh defending the guy he killed is like defending a serial killer being killed
@@Sang-woo218 It’s just weird dude deliberately made getting life-saving medical treatment impossible for millions of Americans every day. Causing death, and this is the guy/system you want to defend.
nah, Luigi is right. People like BS and these CEOs only understand violence. That's a very unfortunate fact but it's a fact
I decided to go without insurance when I turned 26. By 30 I had my first autoimmune disease make itself known. I was living in Florida but fled to Oregon for their state healthcare. This decision likely saved my life.
Florida is top five worst states to be in if you have a chronic health condition and have poor/no health insurance. Ask me how I know fml.
@@paulkersey724 they told me I needed a blood test to get in to see specialists. The test was $500 when using the option for low income. It was free in Oregon.
Love my homestate of OR, they really try to stay in the lead in taking care of its citizens. Obviously they're not perfect, but comparably overall you wouldn't feel jacked in Oregon. You have all sorts of sliding scale healthcare options or free clinics or the mobile bus free care clinic that drives around and helps people in the larger metro area. Idk man, your comment made me proud of OR- sorry for the ramble lol
@@paulkersey724Florida is no different functionally then a Latin American third world country, without nationalized health care
@@thathobbitlifeAwesome handle: I'm from New Zealand and think Astoria is one of the most magical places from your great films alone.
Ben completely misrepresents Luigi's point. Luigi didn't say, " The US spends so much on Healthcare *and there is inherently something wrong with that*" (which seems to be what Ben is refuting (strawman)). Luigi said, "We spend so much on Healthcare, *and we're 42nd in the world in life expectancy*".
Of course he does. He has to.
I never understood how people don't see the way they skew things. I'm not educated and even I can see that, I was done with them after Bud Light, I grew up in St. Louis and they have NO problem hurting working class... THEIR OWN AUDIENCE 😠 edit: I was never a fan, I was blocked early haha
Also the first chart Ben uses has a log scale, which distorts the actual relationship between the variables/axes.
RUclips gave so many people who should stay in the basement a platform. 😂
Bill Burr is funny when he agrees with me and is unfunny/woke when he makes fun of conservatives.
I immediately have to watch the Ben Shapiro cartoon on Flashgitz after seeing this???
Ben Shapiro "healthcare is not betting on your health"
Also Ben Shapiro: "it's based on collective risk pooling"
I immediately have to watch the Ben Shapiro cartoon on Flashgitz after seeing this???
It's amazing how little Ben thinks about the things that fly out of his mouth. Collective risk pooling is based on and only works via betting on most of the people in the pool not drawing on it all the time or really much ever. But sure, Ben they're totally not betting on anything like you not using your insurance.
@@rob_barriecharles2042 I can't find the video you're talkling about. Are you sure its FlashGitz?
This is 7 years after Trump first removed the individual mandate from the ACA which was the only stability mechanism left after SCoTUS removed the state requirement to accept medicaid money…I think the profit motive has set up death panels after being unleashed by the first Trump admin
@brandonmcbee3776 yeah. It's only 10 secs in the beginning where ben shapiro talks about his sister's boobs. It's the one where Elon and Joe Rogan try to turn a Pokémon into an nft to pay for a trip to Mars.
Ben: Go woke go broke, Bill
Also Ben: Bill is worth 14 million.
I mean, from the perspective of the people BS speaks for, 14m is poor af
Nope. Hate to agree with Brenda Shaperone about anything but what a person is "worth" means absolutely nothing unless they sell themselves like a slave and everything they own. He can't just go to the bank and pull out $14 million.
@@OG-ColorfulAbyss. who cares? he is using said 14 milions, it is more useful than having 14mi in a bank, no one cares if musk has billions in the bank, we care about what his billions dollar companies do under his control
Calling bill burr woke is hilarious to me.
Conservatives: EvErYtInG i DoNt lIk iS wOkE. hUmAn RiTeS R wOkE 😂
Go to the doctor? When? On my work day? Pfffff, you want me to starve?
Why is Freddie Mercury's mustache being held hostage as Ben Shapiro's eyebrows?
Oh my god. Can I use this? It's genuinely brilliant
@@justaghostinthesea feel free. lol.
Ben Sharpie-ro
@@youverndit1324
OK, that made me snort 😂
If deer could turn the tables on hunters, they would, and only someone who hates deer would get mad at them for doing so.
At least the hunters don't charge the deer tens of thousands of dollars per year for the privilege of dying at their hands.
I immediately have to watch the Ben Shapiro cartoon on Flashgitz after seeing this???
Shapiro has never been a poor eldest sibling that had to stay up late waiting for their mother to come home because she's going through a mental health crisis/drug problem and it really shows.
And then suffers injury, has no safety net, no support and is always balancing on the edge of a knife.
Thanks!
“For profit healthcare is incompatible with health care” TY Emma
It’s that simple but the powers at be want to make it seem so complicated.
That graph is absolutely absurd. For one, the axes are in logarithmic scale. It's a textbook example of manipulating math to back up your argument.
WOW! Good catch. I didn't even look at the axes, but you're absolutely right, the shape of that graph is warped by those scales. If that graph had a linear scale, the spread towards the end would appear far more prominent, and it would be easier to read the difference, in thousands, between the different countries
That's a textbook example of lying by statistics. He knows his audience is incapable of understanding it.
Yes! when I looked more closely at the graph and saw that the axes are logarithmic, my reaction was that meme of Leo DiCaprio pointing from his recliner
That's what I came here to say. He's so proud of that "arithmatic(?) correlation" based on graphic manipulation that I'm not even sure he knows is happening.
I've seen a lot of people pointing out his graphs are misleading to someone unfamiliar with statistics. I don't get it too much myself but everyone I've seen taking issue explains that it's adjusting for more exponential data...You know when you don't fully understand something but with the given information your BS detector is going crazy?
Ben Shapiro demonstrated that he has absolutely no idea what happens around the rest of the world.
Ivory tower syndrome. These people are so above it all it's a travesty that "normal people" even listen to them as "role models".
Like most Americans ( but little BS is a jew first ) they talk alot of shit yet know so little
Ben will always support the system and never opposes it. That’s why he’s pushed so much by his people 🤫
I don't understand the point of carrying water for broken systems like this when there is demonstrable evidence that the alternative would save money and provide better results.
The healthcare system only appears broken because if you assume that it's function is providing healthcare. Our system is designed to make profit.
In the words of Parenti, "cui bono". "Who profits"
We need to get $ out of politics, legal bribing...Citizen's united, lobbying and also trickle down economics ( giving tax brraks to their ultra wealthy donors).
It’s all about the 💰
Follow the money and get your answers to most of the fundamental problems plaguing our society.
"Broken systems"
It's not broken. It perfectly works as intended.
Side note, the graph Ben showed was a logarithmic graph, meaning, we spend exponentially more!
A log log plot is always a straight line
I'm aware of what logarithmic plots are. How many of his audience know? Probably none.
GD conservative graphs. This should be a marketing regulation. If the public is shown a graph, it has to be clearly labeled, the data can't be cherry picked, you can't zoom in on a part of the data to be able to draw incorrect conclusions, etc.
Interpreting graphs should be left to someone who has more than a passing acquaintance with statistics. I certainly don't, and I'll bet Ben doesn't either.
@@berniethekiwidragon4382 I don’t know what logarithmic plots are, but I do know that whatever propaganda you’re trying to push, you can find a chart or a graph for it.
Ben’s implying at one point that a wealthy person somehow cares more about their health than a poor person does, and its so cringe and gross
he mistook wealth for health
@@InXLsisDeoi mean they rythme. Its understandable that Ben would get confused
The reason people with money in countries with universal healthcare spend more money on healthcare as income goes up when is usually to UPGRADE LEVELS OF COMFORT. It's to have things like a private room, unlimited access to a doctor, and to get quicker treatment, but the basics are COVERED, private healthcare in these cases simply adds.
Sure, some systems are under too much pressure and have really long waiting lists, but so does the US.
My mum in Spain went through two cancers through the public healthcare system and ahe had nothing but praise for every single professional that ever treated her, and she's fully cancer free.
Funny how these guys will complain about Government and taxes and stealing, but are happy to see all these intermediaries getting rich at their expense while making healthcare worse.
It's not about government. It's about class.
I wish I could have given you ten "likes."
The easiest way to get this changed is for all Americans to demand that their congressional representatives buy healthcare from the exchange and not a congressional plan.
Best idea I've heard so far!!!
This is gold
Well, that might be a good plan if they did it. But that's a bit questionable.
I would like to see their reaction to an (impossible) anonymous system, where they have to try to be seen and treated minus their 'celebrity' power and influence
_"American system doesn't work great but it's better than nationalized Healthcare!"_
Find me 1 Canadian who agrees with you.
I’d take socialized healthcare any day
Crowder lol
Ben: you should be paying a lot to get quality healthcare. Maybe next time don't be a brokie
@@tea4nihilists We disown him, even tho he is the human reincarnation of a beta beaver who dreamt of alphahood.
There are reports coming out right now that disabled people in Canada have to wait years to get the help they need, not to mention doctors will pressure them into medically assisted suicide now.
Why is Ben Shapiro's audio quality so horrible? Oh, right, he bought a bass-boosting mic to make his voice sound less squeaky.
Still an annoying voice lol. A bad audio quality would be beneficial for him since we won't be able to hear lol
Still sounds like mickey mouse on crack.
Australian here. Needed minor surgery to fix an umbilical hernia. Doctor. Referral. Specialist. Booked it in. Wasn’t able to count past 3. Woke up with some stitches and went home. Haven’t paid a dime. Second shoutout to Australia!
Ben Shapiro, talks fast. That is all. It is interesting to watch how they are becoming their own worst enemies.
No it’s not all. He has a weird voice. Sounds like an old woman.
He talks fast so that when he debates, his opponents will be unable to keep up and counter his points. Thus making it seem like he is correct in the argument or debate.
He's all Gish Gallop and no substance.
@FrozEnbyWolf150-b9t Thank you for saying that before I do, it's all Gish Gallop, that's why he chooses young college age people as opponents, while being a 40 year old man.
I felt it when they cut to his clips. It's like back when we used video tape, and the playback just suddenly sped up because something is wrong with the tape. I had to reduce to 0.75x to 0.8x to return him to how fast most people talk, but he now sounds drunk.
Shows how out of touch Ben is
He always was
@@TheMadManGagisd don't know if he is... he is just doing his job... cover for his corporate overlords.
@@johnsmith-cw3woHe's out of touch on this issue in that he thinks this is effective cover - it's unusual for Ben's audience to see through him so easily and completely
Oh, he's been out of touch since he was a kid saying "Afghan civilian casualties are good, actually" or his "Ethnic cleansing isn't bad if it's getting those Arabs out of the piece of land I feel entitled to due to my religion." The latter of which being walked back, not on ethical grounds, but on logistical grounds.
I mean, Shapiro has always gotten things pretty wrong.. but you see how EVERYONE seems to agree on this issue.. yet people can’t organize to tell the government what to do? To me, all this shows is how “out of touch” citizens have gotten with the power that they wield.. we literally ALL want a better healthcare system.. but no one votes based off of it..
“ooh she’s all word salad” or “ooh, he’s mean an orange”.. mf’er, who cares?!? Clearly this is an issue people actually care about, but for some reason can’t make decisions or prioritize for themselves.. and if you can’t rule your own mind, then why tf would you expect any different results??
Putting it on Ben Shapiro or CEOs is just one more way to not take responsibility and accountability for what WE allow in our own damn country.. we can change it all in a couple of years if we really want to..
That graph is also misleading. Yes, the average income in the US is high but because income inequality is soooo out of whack here it skews the whole picture.
It is also misleading because it is a log scale. In the picture it looks linear but it absolutely is not.
@@johnowens5342 Yeah. Obviously. But that doesn't justify anything. Modern medicine is great. But if only the rich can afford it in the current society we're living in the system is unfair. All Americans pay for the basic research that goes into making modern drugs yet many don't have access.
@@johnowens5342the fact that an American poor lives better than even a fairly well-off person in a third world country doesn’t erase the fact that one missed paycheck would put about 30% of Americans on the street.
I like how everyone has the same Ben Shapiro imitation: “Myeh!”
This is a perfect example of how class struggle can be a powerful uniting factor among people with otherwise wildly different political beliefs. This is what left wing populism (aka real populism) should be capitalizing on.
The left sound capitalize 😂 I'm sorry, that made me laugh
And a perfect example of how divide and conquer works, and how throwing each side (and minorities) under the bus as the actual threat detracts from what’s really going on.
United should be happy. They no longer have to pay out on their CEOs coverage
they are happy. until something changes, one CEO isn't even a small pittance for the investors. Most companies insure their leadership, so Investors just hit a windfall because this guy died so suddenly and randomly to nothing whatsoever ;) .
heheh
"Well board, I have some bad news and some good news for you today. The bad news is that our CEO was murdered a couple of days ago. The good news is that we no longer have to pay his salary which boosted our stock price this morning."
🤣🤣🤣
This is, perhaps, the most stupid thing Ben Shapiro has ever said.
By his logic, as Emma pointed out, no one is ever denied by insurance providers.
If Ben wore a hoodie and a mask, I would've mistaken him for Luigi...
Shapiro is saying that *as a country* we are wealthy so that *as a country* we pay more, but he’s completely glossing over _where_ that wealth is and _who_ is paying more.
Ben's net worth is about 50 million. He's out of touch with the average person's issues
As a German, this whole discussion is baffling to me.
1. Yes, by definition a insurance is always kind of a bet. When i ensure my house against fire, i bet money on the possibility, that my house will burn down. This is just the nature of insurance.
2. The problem is not that insurance companies make money by betting on people not needing medical services. The problem is that they refuse to fulfill their part of the bet and the lenths that they go to not fulfill their part of the bet. They just delay and sue people until they are either dead or bankrupt.
Here in Germany, i had a serious problem and spent almost 90 days in Hospital. The total amount was about 50k$. I did not pay 1 cent in the end. There wasnt even a discussion with my insurance company.
Shapiro is a pile of trash if he doesn't see the problem here.
Edit: Sorry, i actually had to pay about 280$ for the 3 months. So technically my statement wasn't true, but 280$ vs 50k$ can be concidered a negligible amount imo.
Damn, was that before the 10€/night policy they implemented?
@ngotemna8875
1. No, i indeed had to pay 280€, so sorry for the wrong Statement.
2. The 10€/day amounts to 280€ at max per year. (28 days is the upper limit a patient can be charged) This is far from nothing, yes, but compared to 50k it would have been basically nothing, even if i had to pay it back then.
Edit: working against my autocorrect
Edit Edit: sorry, i was wrong, we indeed had this payment. I litterally forgot about this. Probably because 280€ really was not a big thing for me.
Wow, even 50k would be cheap compared to here. My mom spent 6 days in the hospital for a life saving intestinal surgery, and her bill JUST for the room rent was 36k….. Not the surgery, not any meds, nothing else. Those bills come separately. JUST the room rent was $6k per day. 😵💫
If I could leave America I would. And my family has been here since before the revolutionary war.
@@mamasmurf78306k a day?!!
For that I'd want a king-size bed and someone in it!
How can that be justified?
I pay 260 for one Dr virtual visit for a uti
55 years in Canada and I haven't paid a cent to see a doctor or visit a hospital. That's what our taxes are for. Once I was in the Netherlands and had to seek medical attention for a minor infection. They checked me out, diagnosed the issue, wrote me a prescription and charged me about 30 Euros.
Ben shapiro comes across as the dweebiest dweeb who has ever dweebed. I don't get how he has fans other than his mom
And that's not to say i listen to Sam and Emma because i think they're "cool" but rather because they come across as normal relatable people
That's an insult to dweebs. He could never attain even that.
Dumb people look at Ben speaking fast and think, wow he's smart.
Not even his mom
I need $7,000 in dental work, and this is from a low-cost clinic. But I can literally take a 2 week vacation, with round trip tickets, a nice hotel, food and dental work done and still have $500 left over.
Australian here thank god for Medicare which has paid for several hospital stays many doctors appointments over the years , all 4 children's births, and have paid not a cent
I have paid health insurance for 27 years of my life, because my job requires for me to have it. They take 1/3 of my paycheck for health insurance at an hourly salary of $10.00 No over time or we get a Disciplinary Auction. I'm talking from Texas. I can promise to you all, I've used my insurance once and I was denied after 27 year them taking money of my paycheck for so long and the one time I was Hospitalized, they decided coverage. The hospital tried then ask me for the lin of my home. BANKS AND HOSPITALS/ Health care" ARE A MIFIA .... They are evil ....
It took me 37 years to paid my home, because the banks keept selling my account to other banks with out my consent, adding more years to my degree. Finally I paid it off. Then one time at the ER they all wanted all of it! Evil 😈 system.... I'm glad I had my sister to help ❤
Note that Shapiro's GRAPH of health spending (about 10:40) is VERY MISLEADING. The spending levels on the right are not linear, so although there's a gap in the graph between USA and Norway, the graph hides the fact that USA spending ($10,000) is *two and a half times* Norway's ($4,000). (And later, 18:30, Shapiro says it is a "straight line" of spending among the nations, but if the graph was drawn to not mislead, it would be a steep curve upwards for the USA.)
He is deceptive in that he is presenting a logarithmic plot as a linear plot. The scale along the graph axis is different.
Once I learned about his Gish Gallup habit, I have NEVER trusted anything he says or shows!
He even went so far as to call it "arithmetic" at the 18 minute part. Sir... no... that's definitely a log-log plot.
@@berniethekiwidragon4382It's not really clear what's going on with the X axis but a log-log plot would be quite reasonable. Honestly it's not so much the graph itself in isolation that's a problem here, it's all the data buried behind the scenes, like how it seems to use mean average income which is *highly* distorted in the US due to income inequality, there's no mention of what "disposable income" is in this context or how it's calculated, and there's no mention of who pays the cost either. In Norway that proportional spending is mostly taxpayer funded, which means that the wealthier people are paying a higher proportion of the cost, whereas if you redid that graph to show US healthcare spending per capita based on income *within* the US it would show a lot of the spending is by the middle 3 quintiles while people at the bottom just don't get healthcare at all. The problem isn't just the US spending more per capita, it's that the wealthy people aren't the ones paying for it even though they're the supposed reason for that increased spending.
@@bosstowndynamics5488 i could be mistaken, it’s late for me, log-log plots are legitimate, but look at the conclusion (in parentheses) at the top and then look at the line equation. They just took the slope of the log-log plot. the relationship between the log axes is linear, but not the relationship between the exponentials of the graph values. There cannot be a linear relationship where for every dollar earned, you spend 1.8 % more in healthcare because across the range of the data, the rate changes. But like I said I’m tired and dumb right now, so maybe I’m missing something.
What people don't get is that Ben never addresses how universal heathcare would fix all these problems. He just presents the American way as the only way, then lies about healthcare in other countries.
Ben is not some great scholar like he views himself
@@Valerie-n5z When I was in my teens, I did something stupid on a bike. Broke both arms and split my head open. Had a 3 hr ambulance ride, had to go into surgery twice, and about a year of physiotherapy. I didn't pay a penny for any of that. I hate to think what that would have cost my family in America.
@DamienBlade oh my goodness I am so sorry that happened to you! Oh my heart hurts for everybody
But that is the point I do not know what the hell is happening here
He especially masterfully hides and ignores how ideal and affordable Israeli healthcare is which is built with American taxpayer money
Here in Australia, my father recently passed away from prostate cancer. His lengthy treatment was no or low cost, and his final month spent in an excellent palliative care facility was zero cost too. No system is perfect, but our family's grief is not being compounded by losing our family home due to massive medical debt either.
My children were born in public hospitals for no cost, although we used our supplementary private healthcare (at a fraction of the cost the US charges) to have a private room for my wife's recovery.
While I get what you're saying and broadly agree, if you were in Tassie or Dandenong or regional qld this would not be the case. Australian problems still exist. Eg- I got an operation for spine in 2016 for shattered vertebrae. They left a piece of loose bone in, pushed lyrica on me which I had to force myself off of when I became addicted, and have failed three times since then to solve the issue. It took $9000 at a pvt hospital to solve it in 2023. Years of life given over to "she'll be right see you in 8 months" isn't something to point at as a perfect response even if the yanks would have let me die.
Wow, so lucky! My first child, delivery was 42k- a normal delivery, no problems too.
@@Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420 nothing would fix the small population of Australia and the large area of Australia.
It's not really a problem and more like a fundamental aspect of those points.
I don't expect them to build a hospital in my rural town with 300 people living in it.
My father got cancer. But we live in Canada. We got top-notch healthcare and it was free. Thankfully we had a different outcome and my father survived. But I am very sorry for your loss. It's hard to watch a loved one go through cancer.
Australia has fewer people than the state of California alone. Also, very soon in Australia, you'll be paying for that stuff. You're already paying for normal check ups and it's only going to get worse.
Bro said you're getting health insurance at a discount, even though UHC makes $22 billion profit, which means each customer is overpaying by life $150 per year