Brandon Marshall Gives Full Backstory on I AM ATHLETE Break Up
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Time to get real on the I AM ATHLETE split. B.Marsh is laying numbers on the table.
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Whatever happened I think The Pivot is a much better show now than I Am Athlete and has better guest. Hooking up with Ryan Clark was a brilliant move for the guys that left.
Without Ryan Clark that podcast would be trash.
@@lildrejr899 Yeah although I Am Athlete has 1M+ subscribers vs The Pivots 700K+, I Am Athlete videos barely get more than 2K views while The Pivot videos get a minimum of 300K views!! The smartest thing Ryan Clark did was have them travel to interview people instead of trying to get people to come to them. Ryan is also a better interviewer who obviously prepares questions in advance instead of trying to wing it. Fred sometimes ask a questions. Crowder is comic relief.
@@bernardtalbert6729 💯
The pivot is 1000 times better as a podcast, but I am athlete as a company is better positioned
@@AyeOneMusic I agree
Lowkey think he regrets the split bc The Pivot is a really good show and their chemistry with RC is unmatched
He should his guest are cool but they're not Fred and channing and I miss Ocho dawg 😭 and I think they had something also with when they had there wives on and doing there own thing as well
They just had the Rock on there they have people on there that b marsh can’t get you can tell b marsh is selfish stingy with money and a lame he thinks he knows everything he looked so dumb talking about NBA contracts and was loud and wrong he still tell his side but if everyone leaves even chef it has to be you and his attitude you can’t talk to people like you they daddy
I dont think he misses them because his stuff is doing good. The pivot can be as good as they want but nobody cares about what's going on over at pivot if they are hitting their numbers. its all about numbers and if he is hitting his numbers he could care less about what they are doing and when his company gets acquired , the check will be in his name and not 3 other dudes.
No one cares about your success if they are also successful !!! they dont have time for it but had his thing fell off which it didnt, he would have been salty but he is doing his thing and they didnt understand business or risk brandon took but wanted to be equal partners after the fact which is insane, even to the dumb.
why would brandon put in money, work the show with them, take the responsibility of the production and running the company only to have it become a success, then the people who only showed up to shoot the episodes, want equal shares and a roll back to become equal partners; roll back means that they will invest today, at the price that was a year ago instead of what the business is worth today which would eliminate them having any risk because now its successful. which grease for brains would agree to that and thats what channing was suggesting because he has no idea about business.
He 100% regrets it because you couldn't beat the chemistry that Chad, Channing & Fred brought to that show but now when you have fools like Shady & Pacman, the show is just lame now compared to past shows and even compared to the pivot
@saynomo when your bread super long petty shit like another show poppin don’t make you lose sleep…for the big boys only
I personally like pivot better.
To each his own. The content will be different on both platforms both appreciated for what they bring. I gravitate towards I am athletes more based on the guests that appear, guests I’ve actually been a fan of. There’s something to take from both. Pivot may appeal more to older or middle age men. At least both channels are doing well. No need to make it a competition that’s the root problem to begin with and def not for us to debate.
The consistent NASCAR focus is where you could tell things were changing. Even a lot of the fan base got tired of it.
And if you notice that stop doing all of that. They messed up
I damn shole got tired of NASCAR
The messed it up trying to broaden their arisen too far instead of staying to the core. They did I Am Woman, I Am Nascar it was just getting to cloudy
@3ClapsandaRicFlair as a woman the i am woman was wack
Yea that nascar shit got weird
Brandon switched up once the show gained traction and wanted to do a whole bunch of random stuff that the others weren't down with. He then pulled the "this my company" card because i put up the money, and they peaced out.
Bingo
Sounds about right.. he definitely told on himself here
As they should have
Brandon did business!
He developed the business plan, invested the capital, and gave them the option to be a contract employee or investor. You buy shares at today's price.
Your boss doesn't give you 25% of the profits IF you're lucky to participate in profit sharing!
Business is business
@@emanmar70072 i agree but B marsh should'nt talk about Friendship and buisness in the same sentnce.. He a sell out..
It's never how folks handle the struggle, it's always how they handle the success....
So they ended the show?
Son! Speak on that
Word!!!
100%
Dang, well said.
Channing and Fred already said that it wasn't really about the money it was more about the disrespect shown to them and Brandon pretty much confirmed what they had said
The “disrespect” was Marshall asking them to buy a stake in the company in today’s value. Fred and Crowder were unwilling to do that despite Marshall putting in all the capital and taking the risks.
It was very much about the money, since Fred said in his own words they couldn’t see eye to eye on the stake purchase of the podcast. Mind you, none of these guys were interested in ownership before the podcast blew up.
@HISHAM931 season 1 nobody was getting paid Brandon Marshall was collecting all youtube revenue from those episodes when it came to season 2 and it was time to pay people channing didn't want ownership Fred Taylor wanted Equity if you didn't give them a opportunity from the beginning by telling them this is how much buy in cost is for ownership and your collecting all revenue your looking at them as employees don't complain about how much money you spent when you've been only person receiving revenue from my work and when it's time to get paid you tell me I can't buy into company I helped build
Capitol and risks is cool and all..... but, the show wasn't popping because of Brandon Marshall.. let's be honest here..
@@noow_urmyson facts
@@philly215tyMarshall was collecting the revenue, but it’s not like he was seeing any profit season 1. The money was dumped back into the podcast. Marshall was eating all the expenses. Fred and Channing agreed with this setup.
Fred and Channing showed up a couple times a month, put together a couple of hours of content a pop and then bounced. Marshall was the engine, working 5-7 days a week keeping it afloat.
When S2 came along, Channing still wouldn’t buy a stake in the company. He was okay with collecting a salary.
By the time the podcast blew up, they both wanted to buy a stake in the company with the old valuation from when the company started. They basically cherry-picked their leverage without assuming any risks.
Only mistake Marshall made was promising to split the company evenly when they got started.
I’m not a business owner, but this is a very black and white issue.
I’m pivot 100% they interviews are so much more genuine to me
@Square Peg you’re in the wrong extreme minority
@Square Peg without the others the show wouldn’t have been such a big hot so fast. He had the perfect recipe but ruined it trying to expand too fast. IAA LA, the gay girls cooking show, nascar, I am woman, he got too big and ain’t focus on the main thing until after them boys left. I could imagine their frustration helping to build something from inception with no creative control cuz the ego maniac thinks he knows everything
You have the remote, just turn on to what you like without putting down anybody. Y'all love pittin people against each other.
Since the Pivot came out, I’ve enjoyed them better! I’ve started watching the Pivot more because it holds my attention more.
@Square Peg subscribers who joined back when Chad, Fred, and Channing were on the show. Pivot is 100x better. their interviews feel more genuine. watch any of them when both podcasts have the same guest
The common denominator is Brandon. IAA is a revolving door with hosts coming and going.
Ego stepped into the arena. The bag was fumbled. This happens all the time when ONE person has a singular agenda. I've worked in sports and entertainment for 30 years. There's a playbook for the weakest link or biggest ego.
I've been in the room with CAA, WME, IMG, NFL, MLB, NBA, etc. Divide and conquer is the game.
A "battery" was put in Brandon's back, and he became amped up & he switched up. There's numerous ways to recoup your investment ("first money out, etc.") and divide equity evenly amongst "your boys."
Brandon is a good brotha, but he's self-absorbed and volatile. Unless you are white and very, very good at what you do, you can not maintain control or attain real power and success unless you uplift, support, and empower others.
Example: LeBron James has placed a 👑 upon the heads of each and every one of "his boys." Every single one of them have their own platform, lane and / or business. They are all independently wealthy and powerful millionaires💰💵💰!!
The Pivot Will Win Big!
YOU DON'T KNOW AND NEVER MET THAT MAN. IRONICALLY YOU SOUND VERY PRIDEFUL AND SELF CENTERED IN YOUR ASSESSMENT.
That's a powerful example.
A tale as old as Ruthless Records.
cap. they didnt want the ownership, when only him was the one investing. they took the day to day save paycheck. when everything blew up after him investing 10+ mio they want the 50-50 ownership deal lol. imagine lebrons friends want 50-50 now because he told them years ago hes gonna always share fair.
@Crizzle Yo double cap! I know the deal. It's all good tho. Live and learn
Just saying....Ive heard both sides.. But when its all said ill believe Fred over ANYONE. Out of everyone hes the only one I've NEVER seen any F ish out of
Whatever happened happened. Fred and Chan PIVOTED for the best. IAA will never be able to recover tbh, no matter who they get. Pivot damn near 60 minutes now fr 🤷🏾♂️
The difference between I am athlete and the pivot is Ryan Clark , he way better at leading conversation than b marsh,
He learned from his mistakes and recognizes how he can improve---I have to respect that.
From the looks of it it’s break up part 2 coming soon we will see when nfl season starts
Seriously... You never see someone admitting to a misstep.
He ain’t learn from shit.
Did he get scammed by a producer? 10 million for podcast mics a mixer and a website + youtube and rss feed?
Lmao wtf
Very simple Brandon Marshall got on his Joe Budden shit and it back fired on him and now The Pivot is bigger than IAMATHLETE
They have a batter platform supporting them in ESPN which gets them more views, but they are giving back more in profit which means they ain't getting more money than Brandon as an independent entity. Brandon working on a per show basis will work out better in the long run then being caught in a contract because you dont have to worry about people sabatoging the show if they are unhappy. You can always keep fresh energy, and personalities.
@CENTINEL YORK brandon worked for Fox he wasn't a independent
So once money go involved you pulled rank and said my money my show
The Pivot Is Clearly A Better Podcast Then I Am Athlete Let’s Be Real People Look How I Am Athlete Viewers Have A Dropped And The Pivot Every Episode Goin Up The Pivot Do Way More Numbers
Pivot has ESPN and another company largely backing them. IAA is still an independent podcast. How do you think they got to host First Take? As an independent you will always make more money doing less numbers then when a large company is sponsoring your podcast and taking the main risks. Risks they didn't want to take with Brandon either.
It just seem like they all had a mutual idea and B Marsh flipped the script. It went from a pow wow amongst the fellas to “bring your wives so they can check out my wife’s clothing line.”
At the end of the day, nobody was watching iaa for B Marsh… that’s why from a content perspective Pivot is a much better show. B Marsh strength is branding and marketing. The relationship could have been symbiotic, but too much ego always fuck up a good thing.
That's my thoughts on it you hit the nail on the head...
Agree 100% on this. He was the marketing genius of the show but also wanted to be the face of it. And the money he investment made him feel entitled to all that. It’s just like as a kid when you go to the store with friends, it’s always that one kid who has the most candy thinking he’s the king but the rest are just happy to be eating with their boys.
chad and fred made the show special channing added the humor and brandon was saying the ame thing each time ooh i palyed for the jets and i went to a mental facility
Think you just proved Brandon's point. The other guys were just the talent, they didnt own the company. Fred and Channing were like new rappers signed to a 360 deal and didnt find out until the album dropped.
From the looks of it branding and marketing isnt his strength because he has been all over the place
Lol I don’t even watch I Am Athlete anymore but I watch the Pivot religiously
I'm not sure what really happened, but the Pivot Podcast has stolen my heart...I don't miss an episode and I haven't seen an episode of IAA since Channing and Fred left
Thought it was just me
Same. I felt like Fred, Channing and Ocho made IAA what it was. Naturally I pivoted towards the Pivot because of Channing and Fred and now I grown to like Ryan as well. Haven't watched IAA In like a year.
Fred brings that realness personality,
Ryan brings that traditional interviewee personality,
Channing brings his sense of rumor personality.
Perfect balance of host.
Me either
That is me exactly
The pivot has taken over IAA
BMarsh has Jay Z’s propriety goals, with Dame Dash’s people skills
😂😂😂
I think B.Marsh you should go to their platform or a neutral platform and y’all have a real man to man sit down and end the bs. I love how you didn’t bash any of them while talking about the situation I see your growth.
I totally agree 👍
They could do a IAA and The pivot crossover.... i mean i don't think there should be any hard feelings...they just started as friends during the pandemic and it took off...so they all were wrong from the get go not thinking about the business side of it.
Why should they do that? It is what it is at this point.
Really commendable
They don’t need to do that for public consumption and views real men have those in private not for clout and attention on the internet from strangers you new “men” are beyond weird
Bottom line is that both camps moved on and are successful. Nobody gains anything from “beef” but the on lookers. Learning experience for all parties involved and it should be left alone. All these silly emotions are what gets people hurt in al sorts of ways. I’m rooting for all these Brothers. 💯
Beef is very profitable. More on lookers means more views and financial opportunities. People will often even fake beef so they can reap the rewards
He just admitted that the initial agreement was supposed to be even split but then after one season he changed the terms without telling them. On one hand you can say he was being real with the present situation..but on the other hand he wasn't a man of his word.
No after they wasn’t putting money into that’s when it change y’all hear wt y’all want to hear .. if I’m at 500k and y’all are at 0 it will not be a even split .. are you serious ??
But did he discuss with his partners Ayo I’m 100k in, I’m 200k in, $5 in? He never communicated which mean he probably never asked them to contribute any money. They just continue doing what they did from day 1 sit in front the mic and camera and talk. You can’t be apart or contribute to something you don’t know going on behind the scenes.
@@larrywilson2055 yeah i agree he was acting in his best interest and probably what was fair for the time and money he put in compared to the others. It's their fault for not getting the initial agreement in a contract.. Still doesn't change the fact they probably felt their friend screwed them over for money. The two facts can both be true
@@rltuniverse @rltuniverse9822 it’s common sense, but it’s not.. and it’s weird because u would expect your friends to say. “Oh shit, I ain’t know you put out that much cash. Ya let me drop my percentage down.” Instead it does this weird reverse and they almost don’t give a fuck…. That’s why you gotta button that shit up in the beginning ESP. With friends.
Yall dont understand how business works. No such thing as a handshake deal. Your articles of incorporation dictates who has ownership and what dollar amount was put up to secure the ownership.
I don’t know him personally or watch IAA….but he gives off a shady vibe!
Would be a sick collab getting back with them for an episode or 2. I also think it would speak volumes to their followers about forgiving and moving forward.
Nah cuz theres two sides to every coin, and he definitely tried to hoe them, which is evident that the ones that left… stayed together, they left HIM not the podcast. Like he said he cut Reggie out because he took too long to respond basically.
😂😂 Yeah, let’s make the world more sensitive. This wasn’t serious enough to “teach” the world. He needs to teach himself.
Y’all be trippin. Forgive and move on. We all die someday. Might as well fix things before that happens cuz you never know when it will.
And then what
Fred ain't having it 😂
The Pivot is SO MUCH better than I am athlete, I just think about that cringe interaction with Brandon Marshall and Izzy Adesanya when he said he was betting 100k on him to bet Alex Pereira lol The chemistry on the Pivot is unmatched and they bring the best out of the people they interview because they be so down to earth and comfortable, Brandon Marshall kinda lame lol
If yal would stfu and let him answer damn😂😂
He said a bunch of nothing
The only thing I think B failed to realize is regardless of his investment, the show grew because of the 3 personalities, not just him. That also in return was putting money into his separate company HOA .. they were making him rich while earning below what they deserved. He could have had them pay him for his investment and split the company and they should have separated his personal company from the podcast.
At the end of the day he thought they would fail and they ended up blowing past him. Greed is what killed that and it’s unfortunate because i loved their crew but it is what it is now.
This was my exact sentiment. I'm sure Fred T. was willing to go that route and invest in the podcast only but B. Marsh probably wanted him to invest in the whole package. Let's be honest, all his other companies blew up BECAUSE of the podcast.
nah if B invested the most money. the numbers should make sense for B’s return on investment. but like he mentioned contracts would’ve alleviated all confusion.
Without the seed money and original investment there is no show. If you ever start a company where you have to put the hours into capital, personal energy, building connections and business relationships. It's a whole lot more into building a company than just money but if you didn't put in the original investment in capital when you knew stuff had to be paid for then don't come back talking about 50/50 now. That original investment is worth way more and my time is worth way more than than the original 500k
@@msladyHaiti Fred wasnt tryna invest he was trying to get a piece without investing… they said that they didn’t plan on putting money up
No no investor is always more than just talent. Even ryan does more at pivot
Props to B, he called himself out on what he could have done better, didn’t throw anyone under the bus and seems to be willing to keep it positive. Class act.
He took the high road after a year of not doing so and the internet killing him. He don’t want the Pivot smoke
He was greedy at the end of the day. Dude wanted all the money from what I'm hearing😊
Idk about all that
@@peopleschamp1944 yup he a snake and greedy .bad combo
@@CHAMP_theBULLDOG27 if he invested everything like he said. He’s legit got a point
They’re over their on their channel interviewing the rock and he’s been on the same subject since they broke up… go makeup with your friends, hon ❤
yup! Facts
MAN IM GLAD IT WORKED FOR ALL THE GUYS. MAN SOMETIMES IN SEPARATION HAS TO HAPPEN.BUT ALL IN ALL IM GLAD IT WORKED OUT FOR BOTH PARTIES. YOU WAS DESTINED FOR THIS AND THEY WERE DESTINED FOR THE PIVOT SALUTE TO ALL YOU GUYS MAN FOR TAKING THE HIGH ROAD I LOVE BOTH SHOWS.
Unless you made the show popular by yourself after your investment cool, but when your show pops because of your co hosts it shouldn't be a issue to get them to invest but 10 mill on a pod investment is way too much money to spend on anything in film or media
They said the 10 mill was for gyms & work out facilities. Some great episodes came from the show with original cast.
From what I’m hearing, Brandon said everything was supposed to be equal at first and when Freddy T asked for his 25%, Brandon changed up. There was an argument and then both parties went their separate ways. But Brandon did say that all parties were supposed to be equal and then offered his partners 25% or a per episode fee. One of those partners asked for his 25% and then Brandon said he spent 500k already and said that the partner could no longer have his share that they agreed on. That’s what I heard at least. How is it okay for someone to set a verbal agreement to equally share the revenue and then learn something later and change the agreement without the consent of his partners? I’m not an attorney but if I was one of those partners that was dependent on that initial agreement? I’d be upset
Might have to go back and get some more clarity my guy. Brandon never said "we're going to split evenly." He stated they would split the earnings once the show sold. He never said that everybody would be receiving the same amount. You cant rightfully snag 25% of something that you're not contributing to investing in and building day in and day out. Realistically in business people don't do that during start up.
@@BlickyWhite you’re right he never said he’d split the revenue evenly but Fred has recently said on Cam Newtons podcast that he invested 25% at that time so when it came time he was expecting 25% of the revenue shares which sounds fair
I agree with you for sure. I think Brandon had a weird intention going into business with the whole “I built this and you’re just apart of it” mindset. The show wouldn’t be the same with just B Marsh. He definitely should’ve communicated better and provided those contracts in the beginning.
honest question. how could everything be equal if one person has put in the full financial investment and facilitated all of the operations for over a year. in what world do you share equally in the ownership but not in the financial risk? B Marshall would litterally be a full to give 25% to Fred, who only showed up twice a month for 2 hours. but its clear yall dont understand business
@@getofab721 that makes sense but he said himself Fred invested, so why can’t Fred profits match his investments? If he invested 25% he should get 25%. In business when you open your company up for investors and they give you money they expect their profits to match. You won’t tell a venture capitalist who gave you an investment yeah you gave me some money but I put in more and did all of the work so you don’t get what you originally invested. A second thing to consider is the success. Think of all the fans who have left IAA and went to The Pivot, and let’s not get it twisted The Pivot is more successful and popular than IAA is now. So in hindsight do you think he would have rather split the revenue equally and get money from what would be by far the most popular podcast out because The Pivot wouldn’t exist. Or do you think he wants full ownership of what has become a mediocre podcast???
Brandon Marshall is a terrible leader.
Basically came down to don't mix friendships with business and if you do, hash shit out from the jump! You get what you put in!!
All three of them should’ve invested that would’ve settled everything
@@glo2fr823 Exactly, if they all put in on it from the jump then it'll be justified for the other guys to be pissed at Brandon but they didn't.
Don't do business with friends unless you want to become enemies.
Pretty much. Sad truth tho.
This is why I think A million dollars worth of game. Will never have beef with each other.
I'm telling all of you who don't know business. Brandon has a strong point. And he took on all the risk. Many of you won't understand his position
What did he agree to is all that matters
Yeah most people don’t understand that the dude who invests ten million has taken more risk than the guy who has no money involved. You’re right bro
He know he fucked up. I haven’t watched IAA since Ocho been gone after the split I would still tune in but once Ocho left that show went to straight shit. The pivot is 10x better. Real chemistry and actually let their guest speak and really helping out the culture 💯💯 after hearing this B Marsh knows he fucked up
Let’s face it the dollars 💵 may be there in nascar but come on our culture not there salute 🫡 ti be Marshall I AM ATHLETE
1 thing I can say is there’s way more consistency with the pivot ! I am athlete changes too much at least when Chan and Fred was there it was consistent! Now it seems as tho they change co hosts every few months the second u start getting use to whos co hosting the show they change up ! It’s crazy I been asking what happen to Pac-Man jones on the show crickets ! And shady misses every other episode as well no consistency
Those men have lives outside of making youtube videos. Pacman just signed on to do a new show, which is good for him. Embrace the growth for ALL of them.
@@SmackYaMama appreciate the info on Pac-Man ! And your right they definitely have lived a great life outside of RUclips those men are multimillionaires! I just wish he could of stayed on iaa because I liked that crew
Pac man on Pat McAfee show
Also brandon is in the male sensitivity phase these days. Forcing guests to "show tears" it's getting ridiculous
Love the growth B marsh. Y’all boys need to break the internet like you said. On the pivot or iaa. We all we Got
Always "paper" the deal! Good lessons B. Marshall, thanks for sharing.
It’s all about vibe and energy. I guarantee u most ppl flipped to watching the Pivot when Fred T and Chan departed from I Am Athlete. I know I was one of them and since their split I can count on one hand how many I Am Athlete episodes I watched. The one I can remember watching clearly and this was a while ago and that was when Lil Wayne was on there and then another episode when they had Pac Man as one of their regulars. I couldn’t get into that show anymore after that. It didn’t do it for me anymore, it just shows that Fred T and Chan was them dudes it was perfect. I like Ryan and he’s a great mediator he grew on me over time. I didn’t really care for him in the beginning becuz he reminds me of a company man, I would’ve rather them landed a deal with Mike Vick or somebody since he been on networks too but Ryan been doing it longer and he really know the corporate side of that business so I can see why Ryan was chosen. He’s clean cut, nice reputation he make those type of folks feel comfortable when he’s around. U know those folks like black men who’s of Ryan caliber. No knock against Ryan becuz it’s good to be professional who can adapt to anyone and I’m sure he’s about that life if he have to be but I’m saying he’s what those folks like in a black man.
Same
You can definitely tell when he let Europeans meddle with the show…Nascar comes to mind
Every show gets better once Brandon leaves the show 😂
While Brandon keeps regurgitating excuses the pivot just keeps thriving. They had the rock on and Dwayne never does podcasts. Ever. Brandon needs to stand down or his podcast will die.
The truth is B-Marsh messed up and got greedy….That’s why he’s lost mad employees as well
facts
That man fronted the bread. Everything after that is "aww maaan I'm ya boy". Bruh if that man enlightened himself & saw errors in business practice....he came to you with the errors...don't hold him to previous errors. Just because I'm your friend doesn't mean i should be at a loss of money. Plus if you didn't invest, wtf are you complaining for? Lol Everything you get is profit. Me on the other hand, i won't see a real profit until i recoup ALL the money invested. That's a big difference.
So what I’m understanding is that the goal, at first, was to sell IAA season 2 and split it evenly… cool.
For whatever reason, Brandon didn’t take the offers that were on the table to sell the show… cool.
Moving forward, Brandon is still investing the money to keep the show going. He offers the cast 2 options.
1) You can invest
2) You can take a per episode fee
Season 2 starts and everyone else is comfortable with a per episode fee except Fred. But Fred wants ownership even though he still has not invested (sounds like a Fred problem?) And Brandon is at $500K invested at this point. I love Fred, but it does seem like he should’ve made the choice to leave the show sooner so that they never had any issues. I think Fred dragged those negotiations out while he was figuring out his next pivot. Because it was clear that Brandon had this big vision for the show and no one was putting up money except him.
Good take, but one thing to mention: Brandon promised equal ownership at 25%. Then Brandon took it off the table and offered buy in or episode fee. Brandon wasn't a man of his word, he switched up the terms.
@@urroyalhynus also, Brandon was asking them to buy into House of Athlete, which was the main brand and not I Am Athlete the podcast, which Channing and Fred repeatedly said they didn't want to be part of. He could have kept IAA separate from House of Athlete if he wanted to keep the guys, he didn't, they bounced and now everyone has moved on
@@urroyalhynus True. And it’s unfortunate that Brandon didn’t value those guys because their chemistry really made the pod just an enjoyable, chill, entertaining thing to watch every week. He should’ve done whatever it took to hold on to Fred and Chan (and Chad would’ve stayed too).
Where is IAA now?
@@jenawatson9476 looks like it has one million subscribers, so I guess they’re in a good place (?)
Brandon tried to do that “I’m David Ruffin and yal are the temptations” foolishness lol. Wanted the show to go his way and not the group’s way because of what he put in. Looking today, The Pivot is head and shoulders better than I am Athlete. Feel like I’m watching an athlete version of Drink Champs on I am Athlete lol. Pivot has way more substance and a great balance of comedy, intellectual conversation, genuine dialogue and it looks like the guests open up and are way more comfortable in The Pivot space
There is more structure I agree but when your podcast is pretty much funded by ESPN thats a big engine. And you know the content will be controlled as well. They get more access to guests. You can get on First Take and host a show. They once again got someone else to take all the risks again, and it will cost them financially as well versus being an independent. See Brandon is still doing good numbers, and his show isn't compromised, and he will make more and that's without an engine behind him.
He never says the numbers because he knows he was low balling them compare to himself
If you put 500k up and no one else put No money Nigga go make yo money back
It's not lowballin, if you put up all the bread
@@iragibson2368 That is why they go start their own so they can invest themself and make potentially waaay more being owners.
If he working it full time and putting up the money, he should take more, especially when the other have not done the same
@@iragibson2368 -
He put up the money to what? He says he invested $500k, but no one outside of the circle will know exactly where that money went. Anybody can have invested $15k, then say they invested $500k.
10m for a podcast is crazy… others have done better with less
its was 500K. !0mil was for the whole athlete brand which included more than the podcast
Now that he's broken it down like this, I think completely different about the situation. If I invest ALL of the money, how do we split the ownership of the company? Hellllllll nah
Foh Ocho,Fred,Channing made the show what it was of it wasn’t for them 3 IAA would just be an idea
Because there wasn’t IAA without them. Think about their milestone episodes. And recently, why is Pac-Man full time on the Pat Mcafee show? Just makes you think.
He invested all the money ect ok but the co host make the show. We split it up evenly y’all refund me my money I invested and we go from there. Easy work.. BMarsh said no and no original co host stayed. Sounds like Bmarsh was the problem
@@whittschannel6078 Man yall are dumb. Business doesnt work like that when you have accountants and corporate investors involved. Its a reason why Brandon met with Showtime and Nascar and the others didnt...he owned the company.
@@whittschannel6078 jus dat simple too much ego
Brandon wants to be a mogul so bad but failed to do right by the team. The show is superstar than your gym overall idea investment, those guys we’re entitled to equity in the show overall and per episode fees. Now look how different his podcast is I know the show numbers aren’t the same and now who you had on your team is now competition. You allowed greed to create a competition that didn’t exist
“I talked about it a few times” - in contrast, Pivot barely address it.
Why is Omar Kelly not with I Am Athlete? Why is Pac Man elsewhere?
Why had the quantity and quality dropped off?
Why is he saying “we can break the internet if we get Fred here”?
It seems like people come and go at IAA - Pivot is over there interviewing The Rock, Shaq, and Kevin Hart by staying together and strong.
Sure B-Marsh might be saying he’s making entrepreneur moves, but he’s not being a good diplomat and meeting people in the middle to bring more value to his brand.
Also, he yells over his co-hosts and guests … Ocho and all the other guys were the real talent at IAA
So if all those people leave…. And you’re the common denominator…. I think y’all’s see where I’m going. Pac on PMS awesome btw.
@@Jayhadd21 mcafee is trash. IDGAF THAT HE HAD A BABY. I have 3 so what dude talk sports and stop talking about that damn baby Istg.
@@Jayhadd21 exactly where I was trying to head toward.
Forgot to say, when he was like “Fred can be here and we’ll break the internet” he was trying to do marketing ploys to stay relevant in the podcast game.
When he said we had a handshake agreement we would split it evenly, that was a full stop moment for me.
How, if he invest money from the jump & nobody did. They could of said something from the jump & put their money in!
Then they should've invested evenly too
Brandon is full of himself 💯
that was the issue fr. .... the pivot is way better and if they had chad that would make it complete
@@newrivervalleywellnessdotc1260 The Pivot is way better and it's perfect just with the crew that they have now... no need for Chad
Brandon states the problem plain and clear at 3:40. The mutual understanding was "when we sell a show, we split it evenly". He then goes on to say that he "started learning" and basically went back on what was agreed upon because he feels his value was higher than that of his co-hosts. Even if he is right, and it was his investment, his vision, and he carries the responsibility of how the show should be set up and sold. Then it is still on him for changing the rules of the game while the game is underway, and communicating poorly about it. You can say things like "it is industry standard" and "take the emotion out of money" and that sounds nice. But if you already have an understanding with someone, a sudden change in your agreement in which you take a cold and distant approach would always lead to disagreement.
It is smarter to increase the size of pie rather than to fight over the crumbs. Take care of your guys. I think that is the bigger picture that Brandon is still missing. Realize that even if it is part of your vision and your company, the show is not about you and never was. Nor were you the biggest reason for its success. Let's be honest, you can't reasonably ask guys who could do the same thing by themselves to take a smaller cut plus participate in promoting your company that they are not part of. Come on now.
It sounds like they all had a handshake deal that has been confirmed by all accounts. And as the pod took off (he says, "the numbers changed") Brandon sought outside counsel in order to increase his leverage. If this is taken to arbitration the other parties would definitely be made whole.
Wasn't the whole Strory at all. Fred wanted to invest but he never showed him the whole numbers. Then b Marshall said you can invest but only in the shared revenue but now ownership he tried to pull a couple fast moves not to mention fucked over others
The never sold the show. He says a minute before that, “A year passed & we still didn’t sell the show” he also says right before the comment at 3:40 that he was putting everything in.
Thank you , you save me time in texting all of that. I was gonna say the same thing
Facts. The show that got me hooked was when Cam Newton was a guest. It was Fred that asked great questions to push that interview to the greatness it is.
It sounds like it started off as a partnership. Brandon chose them because he thought they would be good but wouldn’t shine more than him. They became stars. At that point, he secretly secured paperwork, came to them and said, Y’all work for me now.
Exactly. The show is nothing without them. Brandon is forgettable lol
@@westendwarlord Wouldnt be a show without Brandon. Hell the Pivot wouldnt even be a platform.
He invested all of the money lol. I don’t see the problem.
@@dominiquewilson there is no problem. He literally said he threw some change on a pet project during the pandemic. It went to omg, we made it and y’all gotta accept what I’m offering or leave because it’s my business…. I wouldn’t want to work with anyone like that, personally. I’m good.
@frankp7270 Differwnce between nigga thinking and grown man talk. IAA paper is long my boy. You talking about Pivot like a soap opera. I like both shows but I also know business, especially dealing with Black men.
B got bigheaded… not realizing it was rather chemistry together, that brotherhood feeling why people were turning in… which I believe they are.. family fight, hope they solve solve their problem.. so chef can bring they plates again, and they get that 2010 nfl primetime feel back to podcast…
B Marshall changed plus which one is it 500k or 10mill😂😂
So basically he was trying to low ball them. If he was fair he would’ve said what they were going to get and what he was going to get. It’s obvious it went from three equal partners to a boss and 2 workers. Letting showtime hype him up like he would’ve been there without them. Both side’s winning tho.
People who say they’re too real or too authentic are usually fulla shyt 10 times outta 10. The overall I Am Athlete and the podcast are two different rev streams. The fact he couldn’t simply separate the two In order to make something amazing work speaks to his ineffectiveness as a leader. Somehow, someway these same group of guys who were sooooooo difficult in negotiations got a show producer, added ryan clark and been off to the races ever since. All signs point to B Marsh being the problem.
Fred T might use this video to get the 25% of the sale\ ownership when he was there
Brandon Marshall still has a lot of growing to do.. I know people like that put emotion first not business.. you’re emotions can lead to arguments and damage a lot of good things like friendship..selfishness about how much work you put in can make people feel like your not a team player..also makes them to believe your all about yourself..
That makes no sense B put alllllĺ the money in alll of it the biggest portion should come back to him that's fair
I don’t like how Brandon makes it seem like he made Chan and Fred. Like they were nobodies and he was some megastar. They literally were the personality of the show.
honestly for podcasts he kinda did 😂
@@R3ALRxChu yeah but I never really heard of Brandon out there in media space either…. He got fired from daytime sports tv because he was so bad lol… nobody probably even remembers that…
I mean... Outside of Florida most people who are podcast or sports media fans didn't know of Channing or Fred being Podcasters or sports media.
I guess the better breakdown would be that bmarsh gave them national exposure. Then Fred and Chan maximized it and became stars with their work and talent.
Bmarsh didn't MAKE them, but Fred, Channing and The Pivot wouldn't exist without Bmarsh giving them a platform to be seen
Brandon was trying to be alpha male wouldnt let them have there own opinion...he would interrupt them as they was speaking then on top of it all...he was doing all these extra stuff that they didnt vision it to be and brandon being brandon he didnt run it by them like they wasnt part of it..thats is and was the problem of course brandon put money into others things they didnt approve of at all and wasnt in the mix in business decisions nor whom he was bringing to the show..and he blames it on he put all the cash in..but it grew and everyone thought they built it together and brandon seen it as all his!! As he was in the nfl nvr his fault always soneone elses if you notice he never said he was wrong or took accountability even ocho cinco got tired of him and left😂😂
I forgot his show existed, i love the Pivot
The thing about this is…..they both left you. Idk if y’all really in the RUclips joint but this lowkey reminds me of the Adam22 no jumper joint from a certain standpoint.
Initial agreement is all that matters in business....Brandon agreed too 4 way breakdown and then went back on his word
Agreed but I empathize w him. If he really did all the work and investing its common sense what should happen.
@chrisa6592 keeping your word would've been a better business move...now he look alil shady
if they sold the show, the show didnt sell so he said they either pay in like him for a share in the company or take a per episode fee. he should have said they split the podcast but they pay him back all his costs
I respect what Brandon tried to do but he should have financially rewarded them and looped them in. The pivot is way better. I am athlete been out for a while. The pivot has 300k less subscribers and they just hit over a year. They will blow past Im athlete.
Only reason to watch I am athlete was for Chad and Fred
This was actually a great break down. Its simple business. He put out the most capital so its only right he recoups the most profits. He gave everyone a chance to invest and they wanted per episode fee. Thats not his fault. He did what he was supposed to do. Now the Pivot is a better podcast because of the balance of personalities, but Brandon, from this explanation, wasnt wrong in his assessment of the situation. I thought they were all equal partners.
He should have been more up front with Fred. From his own explanation Fred wanted to own, if he was then going to change the terms of ownership or expected more from Fred that should have been clearly stated. They way it wouldn’t have been a surprise to when it came to discussions. He then should have come up with a buy in number for Fred to make him whole. Seems to me the money got to him, and now the pivot has passed him.
Also from this admission Fred could take him to court, he never said anything about terms until after the fact. And verbal contract’s are contracts especially if action or work was done behind it
This just isn't true. He was putting money in, but he was getting free labor from the other guys on the show because the expectation was that everyone profits equally on the back end.
@@DameFreshTV Free labor? Or they were getting a lesser split because they invested less?
@@kamso9631 no one was getting paid for the episodes. that's the definition of free labor.
How many co hosts did IIA have? Everytime I see a clip of the show its faces I've never seen before on there. Brandon is hte problem. Shady, Chad Johnson, DJ Williams and now I think Pacman all left the show. That should tell you something
Brandon marshall just comes off as a compulsive liar
Tried to take the major % of the money and lowball the people who brought and retained viewership.. wonder why the pivot is flourishing/ ocho,pac,shady left for other shows & IAA is dying.
So B Marsh want us to believe he had the idea to start a podcast in 2014? Yea ok 😂 and is it 10 mil or a half mil, cause he threw both numbers out there…
Are you listening? He started the Athlete brand in 2014 not the pod. the pod was an extension of the brand. It's 10 million in the athlete brand invested, and 500k for the podcast part of the brand. Doesn't matter because you chose your side. Personally I don't listen to either one pretty much, but i understand the business issue.
It sucks this happened, but the Pivot is better. Their chemistry is more fluent. Shady & DeSean & the other 30 hosts aren't on the same level as RC, Fred, & Chan
The day I am Athlete and Pivot Podcast Colab.... clear the air episode... Thats going to break the internet
If they EVER have that crossover, that show will make the most money for them hahahahaaa
It will never happen
The Pivot doesn't need IAA, they already surpassed them
@@rayj1013 Exactly! These folks crazy.
Brandon wanted to get that corporate check and the guys that left wanted to stay in house
But to be real b marsh just wasn’t keeping the show genuine. Once it started to gain traction he wanted to start doing the nascar shit, start chasing viral moments and all these other “look at us” type things. But people fell in love with the genuine conversations amongst friends
Brandon was straight wrong... but it is what it is... mixing two different business adventures is a plan for failure.
From the jump he said he was going to spilt it evenly that was the tension just find away to get a return on your 500k
Fred, channing, ocho, pac, and shady all left this man.. wonder why? Bmarsh isn’t a good “boss”
It seems like Brandon invested a lot in the athletic side of it (weight rooms, and headquarters) and not the podcast side of it. I wish he was clear on what he actually invested the money in if he’s going to spin this narrative. When they branched off to nascar that’s when everything went left. The chemistry went out the door. He doesn’t seem like a good boss imo.
I just don't believe they were looking for a bigger or equal cut if they didn't invest any money. That's just hard for me to fathom. If it was about Marshall wanting more out of it because he put the money into it, I just can't grasp why they were mad. Don't seem like they're them type of dudes! Seems like they would have just split without all the arguing.
He low balled them lol....he did say it though that they didn't agree with the figure however that's what his lawyer said his the industry standard lol. On the other hand, Fred did say prior that he offered to pay him or buy out his part up to that point but Brandon refused. It made more sense they go get one started on their own and go about it the right way this time tbh.
@@alexciasommerville9514 I agree cause if he started as friends, he can’t change it to business
@@larryjordan23 yea but just cause we friends if I’m putting 500k and uk not doing nothing but showing up doing content we are not getting even shares
It’s called valuation. If we make a deal about a percentage of something at a certain valuation and you, me, we don’t lock it in at that valuation then the value goes up, when you come back to the table then your buy in goes up. I’ve heard Fred say as much that he thought B. Marsh should have honored the original valuation off the strength because of the work he had done to that point. B. Marsh’s point is that he fronted the money which means he took the risk and so there’s a contractual value to that. There was also the creative component in the dispute because Fred and Channing didn’t like the direction the show was going. I didn’t either. I stopped watching when they went the nascar route. Overall though just sad they couldn’t get it together because I ain’t gonna lie: I don’t watch either show anymore tbh.
@@sjaykay9884 I still support and watch both. They both still cart great guests on… they both going strong and the space is there for everyone.
If they would have signed paperwork from the beginning, B Marsh wouldn’t have been happy with it. Because earlier in his story he said they could all split it; even though he put the money up. He then says when Fred wanted to have a meeting and requested a quarter of the company he told Fred the numbers had changed even though Fred was one of the only ones to say he wanted equity.
Finally somebody who gets it. And that my friend is point of it all. Thank you.
Yup. Also look at how many people co-hosted the show. Brandon has no stability with his hosts. Everyone leaves after a short few months. DJ Williams, Reggie Wayne, Chad Johnson, Pacman Jones, ect...
No are tou illiterate nah you cant be this slow he gave them choices goofy🤡🤡🤡🤡 you put in the invest you get a percentage if you dont you get a fee big difference nah you really sound dmb
This is why they say you can’t do business with family / close friends ! Emotions get in the way and entitlement as well ! I honestly haven’t watched I am athlete since pivot podcast and that’s not a knock on I am athlete but pivot podcast feels more authentic
Fred and Channing brought 50% of the show. Hence why a major % of the fan base went with them.. yet bmarsh wouldn’t pay them what they were worth.
You have to read between the lines … Brandon acting like a politician… you said we have the potential to “sell a show” that’s what happen it came down to money and you trying to be greedy
He's a good guy. Hopefully they can become cool again
They will never be cool again because they will never feel like they can trust Marshall again. He saw the $$$ and changed on his boys. He would have made WAY MORE if he had made a fair deal.
He didn’t invest no fuckin 10 Million 😂
Damn I didn’t even realize I am athlete was still a thing
EXACTLY!!!
$10 mil for what? A microphone and a camera. He didn’t need to spend all that though. You don’t need match to do a podcast.
The Pivot works because of intellect of Ryan Clark. His ability to control the show
Brandon coming from years of being on television always had a huge vision for (I am athlete). Seems like he wants to become a major player in new media. I support him in that…..I just think the communication could have been better but unfortunately business isn’t always gonna be easy going.