He could be a real dude. But from a business standpoint look at it as you starting a brand and asking a close friend to invest. They deny it but still tag along. A year later after you’ve put 100 percent of your earnings into it and it blows up then the friend wants to invest. How would you feel
Although Brandon shouldn’t have brought personal feelings into it and just let the investments follow through, it honestly had all the potential in the world to become personal
@@Money_era "tag along" ... was his time not an investment? And said friend, even mentioned on Cam Newton's podcast that he was blessed that he had those guys appearing on the podcast for free because he acknowledged their value. But, if that were true, then why was he being greedy? You don't need to invest capital to earn a stake in a startup. Just based off of that, they should've had a stake in the podcast from the jump. Financial capital is not the only avenue to gain equity.
@@SuperChaosTTV none of them wanted to invest in the idea of i am athlete as far as adding liquid cash. They each made their own decision to stall out and see how the business goes. Which means through that first year of IAA they were technically his employees. Brandon had no right to be greedy but it’s self explanatory. He obviously felt like it was a slap in the face when they weren’t all in from the jump
From what I've gathered to be true B Marsh came up with the idea and recruited everyone on the show...he fronted all of the initial cost since it was his idea but offered buy in percentages at the beginning or payments per episode. Fred T wanted to buy in but he didn't because the podcast was just starting and channing wanted to be paid per episode. Reggie wayne figured the numbers didn't make sense to him so he dropped out which is where ocho came in. After the podcast took off and the sponsorships started coming in the ownership percentages came up again both Fred T, and Channing who both attested that they never put a dime in saw gaining ownership 2 different ways. Channing thought they should just split the podcast 4 ways after B Marsh got the lion share since he paid for everything in the beginning and Fred T wanted to buy in but the cost had changed from back in the beginning which you can't blame B Marsh for because the company was worth more than it was in the beginning...Moral of this saga get the contracts right in the beginning
The price changed because B Marsh wanted to add all the other businesses to the evaluation making it a conglomerate instead of just the podcast. The other members didn’t want to be involved in the clothing line, gym, etc (the other businesses). B Marsh didn’t agree. The deal with them at first was just the podcast. They wanted the same deal. Lawyers got involved because Fred T did end up giving him 60k for a buy in with the Podcast. It’s in another interview and he bought contracts and paperwork so the host can see he wasn’t lying 🤥 I believe Fred T.
No, moral of this is to do good business. Brandon has screwed over business partners that aren't even famous. If you have the offer in the beginning.... Nothing changes with that offer outside of the amounts of the payouts because the podcast hired more people and got more sponsors. He simply shut them down all together later on when they wanted to go back to it. He took it too personal. As we all saw after he got new people on and just couldn't stop taking shots. This also hints and why Reggie never joined. He knows his fellow WR and probably knows Brandon wasn't smart to do business with. Even more... For you to start a business, fund it, and then invite people.... You either shut off any future potential business partners or you open that idea up and you let go of the start up costs that YOU put into YOUR company... He didn't do that.... He put the money up, offered, then turned around and got offended that they brought the offer back up... He wanted Ryan to sign on to his podcast like a rapper.... Sits with Cam and calls Ryan corny... Just to turn around and ask if it can be cut out... More personal sh*t. The guy is literally mentally ill.
@@CozyLoungeShortsmy thing is this tho … if you were made a offer in the beginning & turned it down . You can’t expect to go back to it & get the same deal when the company is flourishing . You gotta look at it from a business perspective B Marsh was the one funding it in the beginning now that the company is thriving making more money they all of a sudden wanted equal pieces to the pie . It don’t work that way . I wouldn’t be coo with that if I was Marshall either . Why didn’t they take the deal in the beginning? Because they didn’t wanna take a risk of the podcast failing . Marshall was the one who took the risks . So the company starts popping & now you want 25 percent ? They just wanted to cherry pick .
@@pablojuan7960 And you, just like B will have many of business issues. If you bring FRIENDS in, don’t line up the paperwork, then never go back to get it in line. You can’t take that position. 1 you shouldn’t have done business with friends. 2 you didn’t have your business in order. 3 if you never went back to straighten things out then they aren’t wrong for picking up on that and going back to collect. All this BS speculative arguing and debating everyone wants to do. LOOK UP!!!! EVERYONE, even the people behind the scenes that he did dirty, are doing BETTER and HAPPY. Where is he? On a gossiping tour acting like a little girl trying to get the attention back on her. Obviously he was the one in the wrong and HE and THEY know it.
how would u feel if you started something with your friend but when it came time to invest he put nothing in but you have than one day he ask for a nice chuck of the company u wouldn’t wanna give it to him either right? I can see why brandon is upset investing 11 M’s just for everything to go left
@@naseratiebkhe’s clearly handling this like a child who’s wrong. Three of the four people are pretty much saying the same thing. Guess who the 4th person is…. Yep, it’s Brandon who’s currently on a name calling tour.
@@naseratiebkif he invested $11 million he go have to show that for people to believe him not saying he didn’t invest anything but $11 million idk but the reason the pivot have no issues because they got the business side done first before they agreed to the show
the energy brandon brings sounds like a dude trying to take ownership of everything which is fine but you can't get mad at ryan clark for wanting something that is more of a collaboration with partners. even the way brandon says "i wanted him to bring his pod to iamathlete" doesn't sound like a partnership but more of an acquisition of ryan clark's podcast.
@WinZoen1804 That’s fine if he sees himself that way but the approach he’s taken to all of this and how he wants all of it to be is why he lost all of those dudes and he didn’t want to entertain how the other dudes wanted to operate the show. He wanted to own the entire pie and pay everybody to be placed under him. He refused to ever entertain that the guys wanted to split it really and he refused because of what he’d invested to start it up. The other guys recognized his investment and presented their desire that since the revenue was now coming in for him to pay himself back from that money first to recoup his start up cost and to bank a profit from that start up money and then once he’d recouped his cost that at that point they show would then split the revenues evenly with the show cash flowing the expenses before anybody gets paid. And he has never been open to entertaining that as the operating model. None of those guys asked for things for free but rather wanted BM to be repaid before anybody else got a dime for the initial investment he said he made and to pay himself a profit on the money to recognize the profit trade off he made by not using that money elsewhere and only once he’d been made whole to then proceed with even splits once everybody was starting at ground zero. BM wanted everything to run under him and to pay everybody to work underneath him while Ryan openly agreed to the model the other guys wanted to use where when money came in they everybody gets made whole for any sunk money and then everyone proceeds to share the upside. BM wants to speak down on everybody because he felt they should all get a flat rate while he owned everything and got to benefit from the full upside rather then repaying himself his investment to proceed as partners. And he has the right to choose that but clearly the show that had everybody eat in a sense like the pivot has seen substantially more success. BM decided that owning everything; even at the loss of his content partners that he began the show with, was what he wanted to do and it hasn’t worked out like he envisioned but the arrangement that embraced true partnership and sharing of the upside like Pivot did has been experiencing much more success with a group of guys happy to build content that they all benefit from as a team. BM made his call and that’s fine to do but he’s also gotta stop acting like anybody did him wrong because he had clear opportunity to embrace the true partnership structure and said he wanted to own it. If you are offering a capped rate to create content that the creators will never share the upside in don’t be shocked if somebody else offers those people to share in the upside and own the content being the option they choose. You could’ve easily done the same thing but chose not to and the results they follow are in you for the choice you elected to make.
@@WinZoen1804He can see himself as that all he wants to. But, he can’t make someone else view of him the way he wants. If the people you’re working with don’t agree to the way you see yourself or the way you operate. There’s nothing you can do about that.
@@Matt-cr4vv man you wrote that long as ish to be wrong AF? How'd he want everyone to be under him when he asked them to invest and they CHOSE to get paid "under him"? And what business you know operates on a I front all the money and then you recoup your money then we split ish evenly? What dumbass person would agree to that ish when you didn't even believe in the business to take the risk with me you chose $250K and benefits severely UNDERVALUING the potential of the platform I AM CREATING and when you seen oh shit the actual value should be $10Ms now you want to split fuck you and fuck no. We can talk about you investing and purchasing shares but at this point its no longer even I'm holding controlling interest its my ish I built it you're just the talent at this point I'm ESPN and guess what even ESPN had lulls where they lost talent and rating,but found new talent and bounced back.
@colegarrick3162 If you see the way they act on ESPN, they'll never take that platform and try to take advantage of it. They essentially back stabbed Brandon crazy or not. Have you seen the type of stuff ESPN does to the anchors of that show? Can't be any worse than Brandon Marshall.
@@jamesjones756he put the vision in action and created the company which became very successful. Fred and Chad were there for the ride and collect checks. They mirrored their podcast after IAA. They didn’t have to put much thought in creating their podcast cause Brandon already created the blueprint! it was easy for them to start up their podcast. No originality whatsoever
Brandon talked around anything where he could be held accountable. He never explained why the others weren't included in those business meetings. Without the pivot personalities, the show had a different energy.
Yall hear what yall want to BECAUSE IT WAS HIS BABY HIS IDEA those guys obviously even by their own admissions didn't want to be involved in the heavy lifting. And if he was being shady he wouldn't have suggested getting a lawyer or doing their own research
Y’all don’t know what yall talking about . he literally said in one of his interviews explaining that he asked if they wanted to go in on the podcast to be an equal partner or if they wanted to get paid monthly by the videos .. channing chose the second option and fred decided to hold out and wait. So Brandon ended up putting all his money into it hisself with no help and once they seen the show get as big as it did they wanted to come back and try to the same offer and that was long gone
@@WinZoen1804they only agreed to the podcast. Brandon wanted to build a conglomerate which he already had partners to. He only owned 30% of the podcast and didn’t tell them guys that before he bought them on. He invested 12 million in other stuff they didn’t agree with or want to be a part of. Brandon wanted those things, so Brandon should pay for those things. It’s in an interview with Fred T back over the summer. At that time they were in court and he had documentation because was tired of people trying to run his name in the mud. I believe all side, it’s just B Marsh is leaving out the part where they only wanted part of the podcast and came in on that premise. Channing left his podcast and investors that was apparently doing good to buy in with Brandon. B Marsh invested 12 million in everything. It doesn’t cost more than 100 bucks to start a podcast though. I’m not sure, why it cost him so much except for him building athletic physicalities he wanted to train athletes and a clothing line he wanted. He leaves that part out 😂😂😂
You can't be that slow!! The guy set up the company and put all the money in and all the management. Then they started seeing it get better and now wanted a cut.
Yo, why people acting like B.Marsh wasn't already a certified goofy as a Bronco, dolphin, as a bear,and a jet, been str8 weird like this forever even in media too remember?😂
Come on Brandon, be better than this. I hate this stuff. I have my own problems, so I don’t know why I care, but this bothers me. You guys were good together and even if it doesn’t work, nobody wants to see you guys fighting. Brandon be better than this and going after Fred Taylor is not gonna play well because everybody looks at Fred Taylor like that old crazy uncle. Obviously, Fred wasn’t as funny as guys like Channing, but Fred seems like the adult in the room at all times.
Reggie Wayne probably just cut his losses early because he saw the bigger picture 🤣 he seems like the guy to be fiscally responsible enough to be able to take a loss if he did have any money in it.
Yeah that’s pretty much what happened. I saw on past interviews where Channing and Fred basically said Reggie saw the writing on the wall and told them but they felt like Brandon wouldn’t do them like that because their friends but Reggie was proved right.
Fake News. Reggie Wayne went to go be a Wr coach on the Colts in 2018. And if he still had that much of problem with B Marshall. Why is Reggie Wayne still following IAA and B Marshall
He is not a horrible dude but he has issues. I met him before. He has some issues 4 sure. Not blatlanty bad. He tries to work on his issues is all i will say.
Brandon should’ve given them the opportunity to be on the phone calls, meeting etc. I think he never told them because he wanted to feel like the boss that was really a ego thing I’m sure if he asked the guys “hey I have a meeting with showtime at 9 am, would you guys like to join?” I’m sure they would’ve all been in that meeting.
Hhmm not true if you listen to how each of them have told their side. B Marshall was thinking well beyond the initial podcast while they were just focused on the start.
Brandon Marshal needs to get sober. He says all this wild shi while hes partying. Then uses his Mental health as a crutch ,so he can say whatever he wants, with no repercussions.
@WinZoen1804 It's a problem when everytime you see his podcasts he's sipping something. Bro can't do any podcast sober.. Btw he takes meds for his mental health & shouldn't be mixing those with alcohol anyways. Plus if you have mental health problems. Last thing you should be doing is drinking, running your mouth , causing more drama. That's bad for your mental health. You sound absolutely ridiculous. Are you Brandon Marshal using a Alt? LoL
This just another example of why you shouldn’t do business with family or friends without proper legally binding contracts. I wouldn’t want to do it period, but at least have it in writing and ensure all parties know their responsibilities and rights in the business. Even having that in place, there will be at least one that wants to say “but we’re friends, that doesn’t apply to me”. Friends, family, and business don’t mix. Give it enough time and the paths will diverge. Then the drama begins.
Verbal is a contract too especially if he's not disputing the verbals. He also presented them paperwork advised they research and get lawyers sounds above board to me
I get it from both sides. I think B Marsh had a point. He built it and paid for everything up front. He deserves that credit and should benefit from it. You can't take all the risk but not get something extra in terms of return. But when they had success, B-Marsh was more interested in building his brand rather than taking care of his crew. He treated them like employees, saying things like what he was offering was "standard practice". He was not wrong, but he did not take into account their relationship dynamic, or the fact that he does not own their name and they can take their talents wherever. So while he was trying to be savvy and business oriented, all he did was alienate the people that were the reason for his success. Yes, B-Marsh should benefit from his vision, initiative and investment. But also, yes, B-Marsh unwillingness to share and cut his colleagues in and give them ownership could have only led to this outcome. Both parties are both right and wrong, and it is a shame. Had they figured out a good way to deal with it beforehand things would have been a lot better. I think that is what Reggie Wayne saw and realized.
From the business side I think you nailed it but also after I watched my first episode of IAA, I didn’t come back for B Marsh. I came back for Ocho, Fred, and Channing. Had no idea who Channing was but I thought he was hilariously wild and I loved watching Fred and Ocho growing up. I’m sure I wasn’t the only one that felt this way. So on that front B Marsh should have also acknowledged that without them then arguably the show doesn’t take off. Which in hindsight with the way the pivot took off and IAA stagnated as they cycled through cohosts definitely seems to be the case. It’s a fucked up situation all around and a great example of why you always handle business first before you build something.
The problem was marsh wanted to combine the podcast with his gym and clothing line to cut his loses with the other businesses and he was bringing the show in a different direction that chan ocho and fred didnt want to go now he mad that they are successful. He replaced chan and fred with shady and pacman and both of them are doing podcast elsewhere so that should be all you need to know
Brandon was putting money in without telling the others what the money was for or going... He also wanted them to put in on his gym, they only wanted to be apart of the podcast....
Ryan Clark took the idea of IAA and made The Pivot. That’s the blueprint comments. Just own it RC. This is nothing new living in America. That’s why you gotta watch who you bring around and who you call friend. What’s sad is that they can both support each other and still thrive together and be very successful but it something about being a brother in this country and not knowing how to come together. It’s always gotta be beef bcuz everyone pocket watching. If you know, ya kno!
I have PTSD and MDD but I don’t burn bridges, I never fold and I damn sure ain’t ever cheat my friends or partners. Having mental health challenges doesn’t warrant behavior that hurts ppl or take from others, ever.
I do believe there is a such thing as mental health, but I think it's to the point where too many people use it as an excuse to be stupid or do stupid stuff. Having said that, I think all of them are good at what they do and ryan is correct....it's room for all of them. I've all but stopped watching T.V because you get a lot of straight talk from the athletes themselves. IAA, the Pivot, Gil's arena All the smoke, Cam Newton....all of them have completely changed the way I watch T.V. They will all find their way. I wouldn't address someone calling me corny if I were Ryan. His body of work and the way he speaks on T.V makes you proud as a Black man. They all show that the league is not full of just a bunch of dumb jocks. All of them speak well. You get that many men together without paperwork, you will eventually have some issues. Good luck to them all. Keep the content rolling.
@@WinZoen1804 same thing...if they didn't sign...they didn't have any...correct... furthermore Brandon tried to get them to in the beginning and at least according to Brandon...they weren't putting up any money...so you can't wait til it blows up n then decide u want 25 percent
TO is right. You gonna bash people and call people out. Don’t be using that mental health issue Brandon when they expose your a**. Keep that same energy cuh.
Everyone wants to win but don’t want to put in. At this point B Marshall just pay the money and move on the bigger blessing is in knowing you created the plates they were able to move on and eat off of. ✌🏽
Love that Brandon stands on WTF he be believes is the truth n that he really feels he is right, but overall it's not good enough banter back n fourth to make me tune off anything so just figure shit out n rock 2gether again for us the fans!
It’s a bunch of hear say, Fred said he offered to put up money but was declined, but what’s clear is Brandon thought people tuned in just for him and look where it got him
Man, this sucks.... The Pivot is an amazing podcast, and I'm a loyal follower, but that initial cast with Ocho, B Marsh, Freddy T, and Channing was even more entertaining than The Pivot is. I'm not saying that pod isn't great also, but IAA was on the level of like NBA on TNT. It was that good! The productions that I AM ATHLETE put out were pure gold, and it's a shame they couldn't work things out:(
You couldn't be more wrong for throwing daggers at Brandon Marshall over his mental health issue. He didn't ask to have a mental health issue, it was forced on him. He, using his star power, has done a great deal for those who struggle with mental health issues.
Bipolar people are really hard to deal with and starting a business is hard to navigate and we dont always do it the right way but at some point you must make it right.
Men need to stop handling their differences through the media. Handle things face to face, Never talk about it in public it comes off as being too sensitive. That's what real "G's" do!
I have never heard of those other guys say that they put up any money. In the end that’s all that really matters. If you didn’t put up any money and you actually got paid; how can you want ownership?
@@ClasherSports typically when you agree on a split…it’s an expense split and a profit split. In this situation these other guys wanted to only split the profit. Which nonsensical
They aren’t speaking on it it was Brandon…..they wanted ownership percentage they didn’t get it so they split simple as that so Brandon owns all of IAA and Channing, Fred and RC are splitting percentages of the piviot Brandon now has to live with the fact that he ruined a good thing while the pivot keeps trending upward
@ClasherSports no they didn't what don't yall understand about it this was BM brainchild he brought them in said I'm going to shop it around see if we can monetize it not fully aware of the business as he researched and learned more he saw selling wasn't the smart move because they either wanted him to cut out the relative nobodies(Fred and Channing) and/or controlling interest. He brought them paperwork which would give them each 25% for a $25K investment or they could choose a per episode amount. All but Fred chose the per episode aka employee/talent payment option(ala Stephen A. Ryan Clark w/ESPN)this is all before the podcast BM said would take off tookoff.Fred however pussyfooted until after the stock went up. At this point BM has spent his own money and has sweat equity and in the words of Fat Joe's Yesterday's prices are not today's. If Brandon was truly shady he would've had them sign non-competes and they would be starving right now.
@@michaelisaac4439the did a whole media tour for months and months speaking on it during which time BM was silent because he didn’t wanna mess up deals he had in motion. He’s speaking on it now; which he has a right to respond to their stupidity in his own time frame.
Marshall had an undiagnosed concussion during a game in 2010 and even played through it and later revealed "For the next two or three weeks after that hit, I couldn't close my eyes without stumbling. I couldn't tie my shoes, and I didn't let anyone know." Then in 2011 he was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and spent 3 months in the hospital because of it. Pretty sure people can put 2 and 2 together.
"I dont have anything good to say about Fred Taylor" the fact that this was all Brandon Marshall had to say about Fred speaks volumes! You don't have anything to say good about the man but you have nothing negative to say about the man as well
All the comments i see support Fred and Channing.. why? Someone explain.. brandon is the only one who invested.. how do Fred and Channing and Reggie expect equal split at 25%? Channing seemed like he just wanted to be paid per episode.. Fred wanted ownership but u can come in at that same initial price after the show pops off a year later.... what did Fat Joe say: Yesterdays price is not todays price
Channing said he didn't want the invest, Fred did want to invest but Brandon wouldn't open up the books... And fred and Channing both said they only wanted to invest in the podcast... They didn't want to invest in I am NASCAR, brandons gym or whatever else... But Brandon bring the snake he is, didn't open the books to see where the investments would be spent towards and insisted they invested in his other business ventures that they already said no to ... If you don't see an insure with that I have a beach front property in Iowa you should invest with me in 😂😂😂
Both Fred and Channing told him to split it evenly and he can get his initial investment out before paying them. They didn't want to invest in the whole i am athlete phase just the podcast. B Marshall wanted to open up house of athletes that's was his vision not theirs. He should have split the projects up separately.
Brandon wanted every piece of the pie while not enjoying the first piece. So somebody else came along and ate the pie you left on the table. Now they own the whole bakery.
@@omz31 dude, I waited? They been trash that year too. What did they do in the playoffs? And this year they are TRASH too. Sooo both years ...TRASH No matter the year. He didn't give them credit probably because he knew they'd need trash. And he'd be right. Lol
This is sad. Although the cast of IAA probably never had a formal agreement (contract) when it started, I am shocked that they could NOT have engaged a formal mediator to resolve this -- like an "OG" OG businessman like Magic Johnson. If these professional men can't even optimize, it is looking hopeless for the broader Black community. I am really disappointed in the Brandon Marshall and Ryan Clark "beef." Both of these men are in my/our Fraternity (Kappa Alpha Psi). I am not saying that all Kappas "get along", but we are taught and model discretion when conflict surfaces between Brothers. BMarsh broke the code on RC. It would be nice if they had "For the Good" conversation soon!
They need a cease and desist letter! I am sick of our Black men tearing each other down and killing each other! This is why your white counterparts will NEVER allow y’all to seat at the table in the Boardroom or NFL owners club!!!! Take Notes
@@Zilla12 Maybe a formal mediator is NOT needed. I was thinking about the approach to engage a seasoned, business executive that understands the multiple dimensions at hand (entertainment business, TV/media, professional athletics, sponsorships, advertising, etc,). And someone that the other pro Athletes would respect. Magic Johnson is an icon .. and a helluva business mogul too.
Brandon wanted 10 million from them because he claimed that's how much he spent to start the podcast 😂 Magic ain't got enough magic to make that work 😅😂
Man I had no idea Brandon Marshall is such a weasel.. this whole mental health thing makes it even worse because I myself and close friends have had real depression, anxiety etc and never used it as an excuse to treat others poorly.. using it as an excuse is weakness, it’s pathetic and a slap in the face to real people with real mental health issues.. makes me sick..
From my vantage point with this situation with Brandon Marshall and the fallout with Channing, Crowder and Fred Taylor. I think the thing that people missed the boat on in terms of the whole business aspect because I constantly hear “ well Fred and Channing should’ve been paying attention to their business better” But people miss the boat on is the fact that these guys were all friends doing a random podcast during the pandemic. I don’t think Brandon Marshall even thought in his wildest dreams that the podcast would’ve grown the way it did and while yes I am athlete was through Brandon Marshall’s company, the reality is the success of the podcast was not because of Brandon Marshall. It was was successful because of the chemistry of all four of the guys on the podcast and I think in the midst of the podcast growing, I felt Brandon Marshall side of that. Maybe one day they could squash their teeth, but it’s very sad and unfortunate that it came to this. Also, what are the thing that’s very telling to show you how shady Brandon is when it comes to business if you remember, Reggie Wayne was on the first few episodes and then Reggie Wayne left and Channing Crowder sitting in an interview the reason why Reggie Wayne left is that he said point “ Brandon isn’t going to do good business” to me that’s very telling of how Brandon Marshall does business
Why black people move as if there's a limit on demand is baffling. 😢. I definitely see why Cam does it alone, and neither side is innocent. I heard some things from R.C & Brandon's lips that wasn't 💯
Literally everyone left Marshall at some point if everyone keeps leaving you accusing you of shady practices and they are or were ya boys........it's you.
Can somebody answer a question for me? did any of these guys deny that Brandon Marshall put all his money in? Cuz its looking like they only had the courage to invest $ in their own show after seeing the success of what they built off Brandon's. If thats the case, im siding with Brandon
MARSHALL is a beast bro in a bad way !This man allegedly pumped drugs in his own community LARMIER PITTSBURGH PA the mighty NFL gave this man a license to kill allegedly!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Media is a popularity contest . Bro stole his whole platform and thought it was no consequences , talking about Ryan Clark . Them cats let that man front the bill for they pod cast and then left him hanging . They shady as hell for that .
Brandon Wife the master behind the business scenes. She the one that pushed all the puzzles pieces the way it is. If you put together each person's perspective, it sounds like alot of miscommunication and ppl in ppls ear causing confusion.
I don't know why ya'll don't realize that Brandon Marshall is trying not to snap off and break everybody's pinky finger. He's sitting there thinking about it as we speak.
Don't agree with much of what Marshall said but if he truly was the only one investing/funding and doing 90% of the work then he should be the one getting 90% of that success
Fred has solid points on Brandon but it's not nobody fault when parties wanna split over vision.fred wanted ownership Brandon couldn't give him that after all he spent but it could of been handled better.ryan Clark the real snake I didn't know Brandon had been talking to him a yr prior.that tells u Ryan didn't fk w Brandon from the jump.brandon issue was n is he's about the Brand more than the morals most times.then when he cares about morals like how Shannon Sharpe did Russ makin it about the office n tearing him down when really it's jus bad play it throw ppl off cuz ppl remember him being harsh on guys himself n sayin stuff like basketball players are soft.or goin for jermell charlo vs canelo.brandon jus been on the losin side lately.but def root for him to win jus lik I do w fred.sucks it went that way
If Brandon can change the agreement he had with Fred after a year due to him investing…. Then Ryan can change his mind after a year due to the break up 🤷🏽♂️
I disagree about Ryan Clark. Brandon reached out to have Clark consider combining platforms. Clark considered his options went in a different direction and communicated that. He never promised or suggested that that was what he would do. He also expressed to Marshall that it was room for both of their success. When the split happen he chose to support Marshalls former partners because their talent was already proven and they had alot of momentum. He understood that it may strain the relationship he had with Brandon in endeavors outside of podcasting. He communicated again to give Marshall an opportunity to part professionally. Marshall did not take those opportunities. Instead choosing indirect actions resulting in Clark’s wasted time and slander for his former Partners including Ryan. The worst thing his former partners had said publicly after the split is that they would not work with him again and I believe Fred said he felt disrespected without giving specifics. Marshall dragged it into the mud. He’s too emotional as was demonstrated in his tirade at Ocho Cinco on the show. He has every right to feel disappointed in his partners or, to a degree betrayed by Clark…but lying is lying. That is what he has done and been proven to do.
@@kennethcook3127 I don't give a damn when you came to this conclusion 7:00 in the morning or 7 at night. Nobody needs to be talked about the way Russell was talked bout. You're sorry ass don't have nobody critiquing you all day all year cuz we know you would have messed up and people would have put you online. It had nothing to do with the office. His play had everything to do with the team not being healthy and the coach not getting them ready to play. So whatever points you thought you had you just got declined.its not about Russ as person or his woman or his office or his qb coach it's about his play on the field
I’m a Steelers fan and Ryan Clark annoying at times He needs to check himself and focus on that . podcast he on. Fred and Channing look like they were on for the ride. They turned around and stole Brandon’s vision to start up their own channel ! They could have at least set it up differently! They took the same exact vision and made it their own! Be original! Smh
Because he wants to use the right words because he knows the power of words. They can damage, destroy and more. People should probably learn that lesson as well. Then they wouldn't be so surprised when their words come back to haunt them. But yes by all means keep speaking without thinking. See where that gets you.
Bottom line is that the contracts should have been written and negotiated. They did it on the verbal, which is what everyone did wrong. Now everyone has the right to renegotiate etc. At that point we do the right or don’t. The easiest thing to do would have been to split up four ways. Nobody knew what it was going to do.
Known Brandon Marshall is kind of a weirdo since he was traded to the Bears. Always seemed like he was trying too hard to be perfect, especially with his checkered past at that point.
I have come to realize men are more" petty" than women. Whether you like Brandon or not, truth be told, he really reintroduced all the guys, except Ryan to many of us on I Am Athlete during covid. It was that show that took the original cast careers to higher levels.
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Fred Taylor a real dude...nobody has ever questioned his integrity
That don't mean he a real dude 🤷🏾♂️ not saying he ain't but we don't know
He could be a real dude. But from a business standpoint look at it as you starting a brand and asking a close friend to invest. They deny it but still tag along. A year later after you’ve put 100 percent of your earnings into it and it blows up then the friend wants to invest. How would you feel
Although Brandon shouldn’t have brought personal feelings into it and just let the investments follow through, it honestly had all the potential in the world to become personal
@@Money_era "tag along" ... was his time not an investment? And said friend, even mentioned on Cam Newton's podcast that he was blessed that he had those guys appearing on the podcast for free because he acknowledged their value. But, if that were true, then why was he being greedy? You don't need to invest capital to earn a stake in a startup. Just based off of that, they should've had a stake in the podcast from the jump. Financial capital is not the only avenue to gain equity.
@@SuperChaosTTV none of them wanted to invest in the idea of i am athlete as far as adding liquid cash. They each made their own decision to stall out and see how the business goes. Which means through that first year of IAA they were technically his employees. Brandon had no right to be greedy but it’s self explanatory. He obviously felt like it was a slap in the face when they weren’t all in from the jump
From what I've gathered to be true B Marsh came up with the idea and recruited everyone on the show...he fronted all of the initial cost since it was his idea but offered buy in percentages at the beginning or payments per episode. Fred T wanted to buy in but he didn't because the podcast was just starting and channing wanted to be paid per episode. Reggie wayne figured the numbers didn't make sense to him so he dropped out which is where ocho came in. After the podcast took off and the sponsorships started coming in the ownership percentages came up again both Fred T, and Channing who both attested that they never put a dime in saw gaining ownership 2 different ways. Channing thought they should just split the podcast 4 ways after B Marsh got the lion share since he paid for everything in the beginning and Fred T wanted to buy in but the cost had changed from back in the beginning which you can't blame B Marsh for because the company was worth more than it was in the beginning...Moral of this saga get the contracts right in the beginning
Fred Taylor said all that he never lied about what happened, that's why I like Fred Taylor
The price changed because B Marsh wanted to add all the other businesses to the evaluation making it a conglomerate instead of just the podcast. The other members didn’t want to be involved in the clothing line, gym, etc (the other businesses). B Marsh didn’t agree.
The deal with them at first was just the podcast. They wanted the same deal.
Lawyers got involved because Fred T did end up giving him 60k for a buy in with the Podcast. It’s in another interview and he bought contracts and paperwork so the host can see he wasn’t lying 🤥
I believe Fred T.
No, moral of this is to do good business. Brandon has screwed over business partners that aren't even famous.
If you have the offer in the beginning.... Nothing changes with that offer outside of the amounts of the payouts because the podcast hired more people and got more sponsors. He simply shut them down all together later on when they wanted to go back to it. He took it too personal. As we all saw after he got new people on and just couldn't stop taking shots. This also hints and why Reggie never joined. He knows his fellow WR and probably knows Brandon wasn't smart to do business with.
Even more... For you to start a business, fund it, and then invite people.... You either shut off any future potential business partners or you open that idea up and you let go of the start up costs that YOU put into YOUR company... He didn't do that.... He put the money up, offered, then turned around and got offended that they brought the offer back up... He wanted Ryan to sign on to his podcast like a rapper.... Sits with Cam and calls Ryan corny... Just to turn around and ask if it can be cut out... More personal sh*t. The guy is literally mentally ill.
@@CozyLoungeShortsmy thing is this tho … if you were made a offer in the beginning & turned it down . You can’t expect to go back to it & get the same deal when the company is flourishing . You gotta look at it from a business perspective B Marsh was the one funding it in the beginning now that the company is thriving making more money they all of a sudden wanted equal pieces to the pie . It don’t work that way . I wouldn’t be coo with that if I was Marshall either . Why didn’t they take the deal in the beginning? Because they didn’t wanna take a risk of the podcast failing . Marshall was the one who took the risks . So the company starts popping & now you want 25 percent ? They just wanted to cherry pick .
@@pablojuan7960 And you, just like B will have many of business issues.
If you bring FRIENDS in, don’t line up the paperwork, then never go back to get it in line. You can’t take that position. 1 you shouldn’t have done business with friends. 2 you didn’t have your business in order. 3 if you never went back to straighten things out then they aren’t wrong for picking up on that and going back to collect.
All this BS speculative arguing and debating everyone wants to do. LOOK UP!!!!
EVERYONE, even the people behind the scenes that he did dirty, are doing BETTER and HAPPY. Where is he? On a gossiping tour acting like a little girl trying to get the attention back on her. Obviously he was the one in the wrong and HE and THEY know it.
The Fred Taylor slander lets you know he’s wrong. That’s off top. So everything after sounds shaky. I feel bad that he’s sunk so low but damn Brandon
how would u feel if you started something with your friend but when it came time to invest he put nothing in but you have than one day he ask for a nice chuck of the company u wouldn’t wanna give it to him either right? I can see why brandon is upset investing 11 M’s just for everything to go left
brandon should just show the numbers and let that speak for itself instead of going around looking bitter
@@naseratiebkhe’s clearly handling this like a child who’s wrong. Three of the four people are pretty much saying the same thing. Guess who the 4th person is…. Yep, it’s Brandon who’s currently on a name calling tour.
@@naseratiebkif he invested $11 million he go have to show that for people to believe him not saying he didn’t invest anything but $11 million idk but the reason the pivot have no issues because they got the business side done first before they agreed to the show
@@naseratiebkyears later and hasn’t shown any paperwork tells you something. I would’ve shut all that shit down with proof
Brandon said he wasn't going to speak on it last year and now every show he is on, he brings it up 😂😂😂😂
That’s the only reason people want to hear from him.
He clearly said during that time he was in business negotiations and him speaking on it wouldn’t be a good look. Pivot used IAA slander as a start up.
Cam started the feud conversation
He don't bring it up someone ask him about it get it right
he need content
the energy brandon brings sounds like a dude trying to take ownership of everything which is fine but you can't get mad at ryan clark for wanting something that is more of a collaboration with partners. even the way brandon says "i wanted him to bring his pod to iamathlete" doesn't sound like a partnership but more of an acquisition of ryan clark's podcast.
And what's wrong with that if he sees himself as a mogul🤦🏾
@WinZoen1804 That’s fine if he sees himself that way but the approach he’s taken to all of this and how he wants all of it to be is why he lost all of those dudes and he didn’t want to entertain how the other dudes wanted to operate the show. He wanted to own the entire pie and pay everybody to be placed under him. He refused to ever entertain that the guys wanted to split it really and he refused because of what he’d invested to start it up.
The other guys recognized his investment and presented their desire that since the revenue was now coming in for him to pay himself back from that money first to recoup his start up cost and to bank a profit from that start up money and then once he’d recouped his cost that at that point they show would then split the revenues evenly with the show cash flowing the expenses before anybody gets paid. And he has never been open to entertaining that as the operating model. None of those guys asked for things for free but rather wanted BM to be repaid before anybody else got a dime for the initial investment he said he made and to pay himself a profit on the money to recognize the profit trade off he made by not using that money elsewhere and only once he’d been made whole to then proceed with even splits once everybody was starting at ground zero.
BM wanted everything to run under him and to pay everybody to work underneath him while Ryan openly agreed to the model the other guys wanted to use where when money came in they everybody gets made whole for any sunk money and then everyone proceeds to share the upside. BM wants to speak down on everybody because he felt they should all get a flat rate while he owned everything and got to benefit from the full upside rather then repaying himself his investment to proceed as partners. And he has the right to choose that but clearly the show that had everybody eat in a sense like the pivot has seen substantially more success. BM decided that owning everything; even at the loss of his content partners that he began the show with, was what he wanted to do and it hasn’t worked out like he envisioned but the arrangement that embraced true partnership and sharing of the upside like Pivot did has been experiencing much more success with a group of guys happy to build content that they all benefit from as a team. BM made his call and that’s fine to do but he’s also gotta stop acting like anybody did him wrong because he had clear opportunity to embrace the true partnership structure and said he wanted to own it. If you are offering a capped rate to create content that the creators will never share the upside in don’t be shocked if somebody else offers those people to share in the upside and own the content being the option they choose. You could’ve easily done the same thing but chose not to and the results they follow are in you for the choice you elected to make.
@@WinZoen1804a mogul? 😂
@@WinZoen1804He can see himself as that all he wants to. But, he can’t make someone else view of him the way he wants. If the people you’re working with don’t agree to the way you see yourself or the way you operate. There’s nothing you can do about that.
@@Matt-cr4vv man you wrote that long as ish to be wrong AF? How'd he want everyone to be under him when he asked them to invest and they CHOSE to get paid "under him"? And what business you know operates on a I front all the money and then you recoup your money then we split ish evenly? What dumbass person would agree to that ish when you didn't even believe in the business to take the risk with me you chose $250K and benefits severely UNDERVALUING the potential of the platform I AM CREATING and when you seen oh shit the actual value should be $10Ms now you want to split fuck you and fuck no. We can talk about you investing and purchasing shares but at this point its no longer even I'm holding controlling interest its my ish I built it you're just the talent at this point I'm ESPN and guess what even ESPN had lulls where they lost talent and rating,but found new talent and bounced back.
Ryan, Fred and Channing are legitimately real azz dudes 💯
Nope...
@@zaziedabeast9692why ?
@colegarrick3162 If you see the way they act on ESPN, they'll never take that platform and try to take advantage of it. They essentially back stabbed Brandon crazy or not. Have you seen the type of stuff ESPN does to the anchors of that show? Can't be any worse than Brandon Marshall.
@@zaziedabeast9692funny that ESPN didn’t even want RC. Race baiter gone now.
Fred maybe the rest not so much.
If Brandon wouldn’t show his cohost any paperwork what makes him feel the public would believe these numbers he’s shouting out now!
Idk but they took his idea and Ran with it 😂 these dudes weren't even thinking like that ! Brandon planted the seed
@@TONYshoutout250he didn’t come up with this idea. This came from a former producer of ESPN. Y’all just say anything without knowing.
@@jamesjones756facts👏👏👏
@@TONYshoutout250stop it
@@jamesjones756he put the vision in action and created the company which became very successful. Fred and Chad were there for the ride and collect checks. They mirrored their podcast after IAA. They didn’t have to put much thought in creating their podcast cause Brandon already created the blueprint! it was easy for them to start up their podcast. No originality whatsoever
Brandon talked around anything where he could be held accountable. He never explained why the others weren't included in those business meetings. Without the pivot personalities, the show had a different energy.
Yall hear what yall want to BECAUSE IT WAS HIS BABY HIS IDEA those guys obviously even by their own admissions didn't want to be involved in the heavy lifting. And if he was being shady he wouldn't have suggested getting a lawyer or doing their own research
Y’all don’t know what yall talking about . he literally said in one of his interviews explaining that he asked if they wanted to go in on the podcast to be an equal partner or if they wanted to get paid monthly by the videos .. channing chose the second option and fred decided to hold out and wait. So Brandon ended up putting all his money into it hisself with no help and once they seen the show get as big as it did they wanted to come back and try to the same offer and that was long gone
And then he filled the show with a bunch of users and losers. Players that were known dirtbags and had horrible reputations
@@WinZoen1804they only agreed to the podcast. Brandon wanted to build a conglomerate which he already had partners to. He only owned 30% of the podcast and didn’t tell them guys that before he bought them on.
He invested 12 million in other stuff they didn’t agree with or want to be a part of. Brandon wanted those things, so Brandon should pay for those things.
It’s in an interview with Fred T back over the summer. At that time they were in court and he had documentation because was tired of people trying to run his name in the mud.
I believe all side, it’s just B Marsh is leaving out the part where they only wanted part of the podcast and came in on that premise. Channing left his podcast and investors that was apparently doing good to buy in with Brandon.
B Marsh invested 12 million in everything. It doesn’t cost more than 100 bucks to start a podcast though. I’m not sure, why it cost him so much except for him building athletic physicalities he wanted to train athletes and a clothing line he wanted.
He leaves that part out 😂😂😂
You can't be that slow!! The guy set up the company and put all the money in and all the management. Then they started seeing it get better and now wanted a cut.
Brandon Marshall has serious problems, had them as a player and host , the dude is OFF ...
i’m sure you do too
Just like most people ! At least he acknowledges his mental health and getting the help!
Yo, why people acting like B.Marsh wasn't already a certified goofy as a Bronco, dolphin, as a bear,and a jet, been str8 weird like this forever even in media too remember?😂
Exactly
Calling another man goofy considering your profile pic and using "str8" is rich
Thanks, I'll take that into consideration.plus that a rated G type of 📸 😉 stall me out fam 😁
Dude been a mental health headass from jump. Ain’t nothing new. Could never get into business with a $pazz
Dhu😮😮 to😅
Fred Taylor always been a solid dude
Ryan just decided to be a boss and not under Brandon. Brandon should of respected it as a man.
True but Ryan is also corny af lol.
@@Byronic19134 I can agree, but if he wants to get his pape, let him get his pape. lol
Come on Brandon, be better than this. I hate this stuff. I have my own problems, so I don’t know why I care, but this bothers me. You guys were good together and even if it doesn’t work, nobody wants to see you guys fighting. Brandon be better than this and going after Fred Taylor is not gonna play well because everybody looks at Fred Taylor like that old crazy uncle. Obviously, Fred wasn’t as funny as guys like Channing, but Fred seems like the adult in the room at all times.
I disagree. Fred is seen as the cool, wise uncle.
Great point and I do feel the SAME
Brandon thought he was the smartest one in the room........and then reality hit and there was noone left in the room but him!
Look how EVERYONE left, Pacman Shady chef Nancy etc etc
In a room by himself and he still wasn't the smartest in the room
😬
Brandon Marshall calling someone corny is hilarious 😂😂😂
That mfer is the definition of corny
Reggie Wayne probably just cut his losses early because he saw the bigger picture 🤣 he seems like the guy to be fiscally responsible enough to be able to take a loss if he did have any money in it.
Yeah that’s pretty much what happened. I saw on past interviews where Channing and Fred basically said Reggie saw the writing on the wall and told them but they felt like Brandon wouldn’t do them like that because their friends but Reggie was proved right.
Fake News. Reggie Wayne went to go be a Wr coach on the Colts in 2018. And if he still had that much of problem with B Marshall. Why is Reggie Wayne still following IAA and B Marshall
@@phantomking4381 never said he had a problem. I said he saw the writing on the wall and left.
@@phantomking4381
What does what happened in 2018 have to do with the podcast that was created later?
@@Japan705
A simple Google search shows he was hire as a full time coach for the Wr for the Colts after he got off of IAA.
It’s hard being around someone like Brandon who is crazy
😂😂😂
Shut up
Yea he crazy
He is not a horrible dude but he has issues. I met him before. He has some issues 4 sure. Not blatlanty bad. He tries to work on his issues is all i will say.
@@lordoffaiyum9727how would u know he works on his issues?
Brandon should’ve given them the opportunity to be on the phone calls, meeting etc. I think he never told them because he wanted to feel like the boss that was really a ego thing I’m sure if he asked the guys “hey I have a meeting with showtime at 9 am, would you guys like to join?” I’m sure they would’ve all been in that meeting.
I agree. He trying to make it seem like he was doing everything when in reality he probably never asked the guys to be involved in anything
Hhmm not true if you listen to how each of them have told their side. B Marshall was thinking well beyond the initial podcast while they were just focused on the start.
@@jewel6799 they were all equal though can’t play that boss shit when your a team.
Brandon Marshal needs to get sober. He says all this wild shi while hes partying. Then uses his Mental health as a crutch ,so he can say whatever he wants, with no repercussions.
You seen him out partying?
@WinZoen1804 Yes every podcast he smokes & drinks. 🤣
@@TRuSTaR-7421 you sound ridiculous so sitting with the homies lounging smoking a cigar and having a drink is partying and makes you an alcoholic?
@WinZoen1804 It's a problem when everytime you see his podcasts he's sipping something. Bro can't do any podcast sober.. Btw he takes meds for his mental health & shouldn't be mixing those with alcohol anyways. Plus if you have mental health problems. Last thing you should be doing is drinking, running your mouth , causing more drama. That's bad for your mental health. You sound absolutely ridiculous. Are you Brandon Marshal using a Alt? LoL
@@WinZoen1804it definitely makes your mind unclear
Brandon Marshall started one of the first sports podcast ever and now everyone is thriving but him.
Yea that says something
What about lebrons the shop
@@HectorConCarne23 ehh, that was started as a show on HBO.
Because of him
Yea he did it to himself
We like both shows. It’s really no need for them to be arguing. It’s enough money and views out here for everybody.
Lmao you know that ain’t how ego works 😂
I will never get over Brandon Marshall saying "I never played a playoff game".
Why?
...huh
Well he hasn't 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thats what ruined the show for me
This just another example of why you shouldn’t do business with family or friends without proper legally binding contracts. I wouldn’t want to do it period, but at least have it in writing and ensure all parties know their responsibilities and rights in the business.
Even having that in place, there will be at least one that wants to say “but we’re friends, that doesn’t apply to me”. Friends, family, and business don’t mix. Give it enough time and the paths will diverge. Then the drama begins.
Verbal is a contract too especially if he's not disputing the verbals. He also presented them paperwork advised they research and get lawyers sounds above board to me
I really enjoy watching highlights of Fred and Ryan.two electrifying dudes that gave us some good memories
He is the common denominator, everyone can't be wrong!
They actually can🤦🏾🤷🏾
@WinZoen1804 welp there's only 1 person 12million in the red.....
Lol they actually can but yeah I get you
I see B- Marshall really going down the Scottie Pippen road
What road is that?
@@ayevince8857looking like a dumb goofy
I get it from both sides. I think B Marsh had a point. He built it and paid for everything up front. He deserves that credit and should benefit from it. You can't take all the risk but not get something extra in terms of return.
But when they had success, B-Marsh was more interested in building his brand rather than taking care of his crew. He treated them like employees, saying things like what he was offering was "standard practice". He was not wrong, but he did not take into account their relationship dynamic, or the fact that he does not own their name and they can take their talents wherever. So while he was trying to be savvy and business oriented, all he did was alienate the people that were the reason for his success.
Yes, B-Marsh should benefit from his vision, initiative and investment. But also, yes, B-Marsh unwillingness to share and cut his colleagues in and give them ownership could have only led to this outcome. Both parties are both right and wrong, and it is a shame. Had they figured out a good way to deal with it beforehand things would have been a lot better. I think that is what Reggie Wayne saw and realized.
From the business side I think you nailed it but also after I watched my first episode of IAA, I didn’t come back for B Marsh. I came back for Ocho, Fred, and Channing. Had no idea who Channing was but I thought he was hilariously wild and I loved watching Fred and Ocho growing up. I’m sure I wasn’t the only one that felt this way.
So on that front B Marsh should have also acknowledged that without them then arguably the show doesn’t take off. Which in hindsight with the way the pivot took off and IAA stagnated as they cycled through cohosts definitely seems to be the case.
It’s a fucked up situation all around and a great example of why you always handle business first before you build something.
Awesome video, it is packed with so much solid information and I love the graphics used. Really appreciate the work and effort put into creating it.
He needs to sit down and take care of his family 🙏🏾
Why brondon be actin like he was randy moss or sumin 😂
He does have great numbers with bum qbs. You have to give him that
@@sindilacion ok….. he can have that goofy shit. He still aint no randy moss or anybody who can talk in that caliber
@@rayman12698 1,000 yd seasons and 12k yds total. 83tds. Idk man he’s s hall of farmer statistically. His best Qb ws jay cutler.
I know you're not 😮
@@KI-wz7pr HE NKT ON RANDY MOSS LEVEL. DEAL WITH IT !! 😂😂. Yall suckin the shid out dude
The problem was marsh wanted to combine the podcast with his gym and clothing line to cut his loses with the other businesses and he was bringing the show in a different direction that chan ocho and fred didnt want to go now he mad that they are successful. He replaced chan and fred with shady and pacman and both of them are doing podcast elsewhere so that should be all you need to know
Marshall was a head case. Talented for sure but thats why he bounced to several teams. Fred Taylor seemed like a stand up guy
Big Respect 4 RC... Keep on keepin’ on bro
Brandon was putting money in without telling the others what the money was for or going... He also wanted them to put in on his gym, they only wanted to be apart of the podcast....
Terrible ending to this video just ends abruptly 😂 gotta work on that in the future
Ryan Clark took the idea of IAA and made The Pivot. That’s the blueprint comments. Just own it RC. This is nothing new living in America. That’s why you gotta watch who you bring around and who you call friend. What’s sad is that they can both support each other and still thrive together and be very successful but it something about being a brother in this country and not knowing how to come together. It’s always gotta be beef bcuz everyone pocket watching. If you know, ya kno!
Ryan Clark 🎉❤
I have PTSD and MDD but I don’t burn bridges, I never fold and I damn sure ain’t ever cheat my friends or partners. Having mental health challenges doesn’t warrant behavior that hurts ppl or take from others, ever.
I do believe there is a such thing as mental health, but I think it's to the point where too many people use it as an excuse to be stupid or do stupid stuff. Having said that, I think all of them are good at what they do and ryan is correct....it's room for all of them. I've all but stopped watching T.V because you get a lot of straight talk from the athletes themselves. IAA, the Pivot, Gil's arena All the smoke, Cam Newton....all of them have completely changed the way I watch T.V. They will all find their way. I wouldn't address someone calling me corny if I were Ryan. His body of work and the way he speaks on T.V makes you proud as a Black man. They all show that the league is not full of just a bunch of dumb jocks. All of them speak well. You get that many men together without paperwork, you will eventually have some issues. Good luck to them all. Keep the content rolling.
It wasn't without paperwork they just didn't want to sign it what interview did yall watch🤔🤦🏾
people all use mental health against that person
@@WinZoen1804 same thing...if they didn't sign...they didn't have any...correct... furthermore Brandon tried to get them to in the beginning and at least according to Brandon...they weren't putting up any money...so you can't wait til it blows up n then decide u want 25 percent
TO is right. You gonna bash people and call people out. Don’t be using that mental health issue Brandon when they expose your a**. Keep that same energy cuh.
Brandon didn't really say what happened though because in reality he wanted to have all the money and was trying to leave them with the crumbs
Everyone wants to win but don’t want to put in. At this point B Marshall just pay the money and move on the bigger blessing is in knowing you created the plates they were able to move on and eat off of. ✌🏽
Love that Brandon stands on WTF he be believes is the truth n that he really feels he is right, but overall it's not good enough banter back n fourth to make me tune off anything so just figure shit out n rock 2gether again for us the fans!
Fred Taylor is a Hall of Fame!
Never heard of him😮
@@trinam383You must be 20 years old then 🤣
@@fritz2live Without a doubt 💯I mean most 2k babies don’t know bout Fred T but thankfully my coaches Pmo 😂
I always said Brandon had to be controlling from his playing days… it seemed like he used to force Jay Cutler to feed him the ball 😂
NEVER made sense why that mf had the most catches ever in one game
@@survivingwatson7430 now you being disrespectful
People don’t know that BM is into men. I lived in Colorado for years. It was no secret that when he played for Denver he was into male escorts
It’s a bunch of hear say, Fred said he offered to put up money but was declined, but what’s clear is Brandon thought people tuned in just for him and look where it got him
There’s not an analyst I respect more than Ryan Clark💯real one thru n thru
I agree with Ryan. People don’t want to admit your better than me. That’s what happens when you get greedy and selfish Brandon
Man, this sucks.... The Pivot is an amazing podcast, and I'm a loyal follower, but that initial cast with Ocho, B Marsh, Freddy T, and Channing was even more entertaining than The Pivot is. I'm not saying that pod isn't great also, but IAA was on the level of like NBA on TNT. It was that good! The productions that I AM ATHLETE put out were pure gold, and it's a shame they couldn't work things out:(
Channing crowder must’ve put hands and feet on that boi
Naw, they were real friends. As opposed to the other two
You couldn't be more wrong for throwing daggers at Brandon Marshall over his mental health issue. He didn't ask to have a mental health issue, it was forced on him. He, using his star power, has done a great deal for those who struggle with mental health issues.
Don't say nothing bad about my boy Ryan Clark
Exactly he talking bout the man corny he ain’t never did nun corny he laid back.
Even though their intentions were genuine, these guys super competitive natures kept getting the way of their goal.
It's funny how he publicly talking about business deals
Keep doing ya thang B, when everyone teams up against you that means they’re Afraid of you and what u can become. PA all day
Bipolar people are really hard to deal with and starting a business is hard to navigate and we dont always do it the right way but at some point you must make it right.
@@kaya856Brandon has admitted numerous times that he is bipolar smarty.
@@faithinallthingsw4088got em
@@kaya856 it’s documented
Literally has a documentary when he was a young player talking about it
Brandon might be wrong or he might be right , but dont blame this on his mental health. we don't know the whole story
@@kaya856He said himself he went to a therapy and was a nightmare in the lockerroom
Men need to stop handling their differences through the media. Handle things face to face, Never talk about it in public it comes off as being too sensitive. That's what real "G's" do!
I have never heard of those other guys say that they put up any money. In the end that’s all that really matters. If you didn’t put up any money and you actually got paid; how can you want ownership?
They agreed verbally on 25% each 4 ways.. but only Brandon put in money which makes zero sense...
@@ClasherSports typically when you agree on a split…it’s an expense split and a profit split. In this situation these other guys wanted to only split the profit. Which nonsensical
They aren’t speaking on it it was Brandon…..they wanted ownership percentage they didn’t get it so they split simple as that so Brandon owns all of IAA and Channing, Fred and RC are splitting percentages of the piviot Brandon now has to live with the fact that he ruined a good thing while the pivot keeps trending upward
@ClasherSports no they didn't what don't yall understand about it this was BM brainchild he brought them in said I'm going to shop it around see if we can monetize it not fully aware of the business as he researched and learned more he saw selling wasn't the smart move because they either wanted him to cut out the relative nobodies(Fred and Channing) and/or controlling interest. He brought them paperwork which would give them each 25% for a $25K investment or they could choose a per episode amount. All but Fred chose the per episode aka employee/talent payment option(ala Stephen A. Ryan Clark w/ESPN)this is all before the podcast BM said would take off tookoff.Fred however pussyfooted until after the stock went up. At this point BM has spent his own money and has sweat equity and in the words of Fat Joe's Yesterday's prices are not today's. If Brandon was truly shady he would've had them sign non-competes and they would be starving right now.
@@michaelisaac4439the did a whole media tour for months and months speaking on it during which time BM was silent because he didn’t wanna mess up deals he had in motion. He’s speaking on it now; which he has a right to respond to their stupidity in his own time frame.
Marshall had an undiagnosed concussion during a game in 2010 and even played through it and later revealed "For the next two or three weeks after that hit, I couldn't close my eyes without stumbling. I couldn't tie my shoes, and I didn't let anyone know." Then in 2011 he was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and spent 3 months in the hospital because of it. Pretty sure people can put 2 and 2 together.
I drafted Fred in so many Fantasy Football teams back in the day lol.
It’s just an unfortunate situation for the Brotherhood that could had been infinitely even more stellar🔥💙💛
Reggie Wayne did one episode and called out Brandon about how he is not going to cut it right between them
"I dont have anything good to say about Fred Taylor" the fact that this was all Brandon Marshall had to say about Fred speaks volumes! You don't have anything to say good about the man but you have nothing negative to say about the man as well
All the comments i see support Fred and Channing.. why? Someone explain.. brandon is the only one who invested.. how do Fred and Channing and Reggie expect equal split at 25%? Channing seemed like he just wanted to be paid per episode.. Fred wanted ownership but u can come in at that same initial price after the show pops off a year later.... what did Fat Joe say: Yesterdays price is not todays price
Brandon Marshall has been diagnosed with Borderline Personality look it up
I’m with you on this, I tend to agree with B Marsh side
@@JamesEarlBonezwhy are you deflecting from the facts, stop d riding
Channing said he didn't want the invest, Fred did want to invest but Brandon wouldn't open up the books... And fred and Channing both said they only wanted to invest in the podcast... They didn't want to invest in I am NASCAR, brandons gym or whatever else... But Brandon bring the snake he is, didn't open the books to see where the investments would be spent towards and insisted they invested in his other business ventures that they already said no to ... If you don't see an insure with that I have a beach front property in Iowa you should invest with me in 😂😂😂
Both Fred and Channing told him to split it evenly and he can get his initial investment out before paying them. They didn't want to invest in the whole i am athlete phase just the podcast. B Marshall wanted to open up house of athletes that's was his vision not theirs. He should have split the projects up separately.
Brandon wanted every piece of the pie while not enjoying the first piece. So somebody else came along and ate the pie you left on the table. Now they own the whole bakery.
Thank you Ryan Clark for not having a dead animal hair cut.
It’s about Brandon. With Ryan, it’s the trio.
Sheesh…I hate Ryan Clark a little less. Dude is solid by his words and actions…still needs to give my Jags credit when it’s due 🙄
Well you will be waiting for a looong time for credit for jags....they are trash.
@@azeer777 you waited a whole year instead of when the Jags were 8-3 around the time I made this comment 🙄
@@omz31 dude, I waited? They been trash that year too. What did they do in the playoffs? And this year they are TRASH too. Sooo both years ...TRASH No matter the year. He didn't give them credit probably because he knew they'd need trash. And he'd be right. Lol
@@azeer777 again, you weren’t saying shit when they were winning and waited a whole year 🤡 Keep that soft shit in your house
This is sad. Although the cast of IAA probably never had a formal agreement (contract) when it started, I am shocked that they could NOT have engaged a formal mediator to resolve this -- like an "OG" OG businessman like Magic Johnson. If these professional men can't even optimize, it is looking hopeless for the broader Black community. I am really disappointed in the Brandon Marshall and Ryan Clark "beef." Both of these men are in my/our Fraternity (Kappa Alpha Psi). I am not saying that all Kappas "get along", but we are taught and model discretion when conflict surfaces between Brothers. BMarsh broke the code on RC. It would be nice if they had "For the Good" conversation soon!
🤣 is Magic Johnson a trained mediator? What are you talking about?
They need a cease and desist letter! I am sick of our Black men tearing each other down and killing each other! This is why your white counterparts will NEVER allow y’all to seat at the table in the Boardroom or NFL owners club!!!! Take Notes
This has nothing to do with black people as a whole lol
@@Zilla12 Maybe a formal mediator is NOT needed. I was thinking about the approach to engage a seasoned, business executive that understands the multiple dimensions at hand (entertainment business, TV/media, professional athletics, sponsorships, advertising, etc,). And someone that the other pro Athletes would respect. Magic Johnson is an icon .. and a helluva business mogul too.
Brandon wanted 10 million from them because he claimed that's how much he spent to start the podcast 😂
Magic ain't got enough magic to make that work 😅😂
Ryan Clark is such and tactful interviewer, Brandon isn’t that, and he’s jealous
blacks destorying blacks.. this is awful.. why do we hate on each other so much.. heart breaking on all levels..
Man I had no idea Brandon Marshall is such a weasel.. this whole mental health thing makes it even worse because I myself and close friends have had real depression, anxiety etc and never used it as an excuse to treat others poorly.. using it as an excuse is weakness, it’s pathetic and a slap in the face to real people with real mental health issues.. makes me sick..
Guess you missed watching his NFL playing days and all the drama that accompanied it.
Depression & anxiety is an excuse to be lazy
@@skysimba8953 nope. Two totally different things.
From my vantage point with this situation with Brandon Marshall and the fallout with Channing, Crowder and Fred Taylor. I think the thing that people missed the boat on in terms of the whole business aspect because I constantly hear “ well Fred and Channing should’ve been paying attention to their business better” But people miss the boat on is the fact that these guys were all friends doing a random podcast during the pandemic. I don’t think Brandon Marshall even thought in his wildest dreams that the podcast would’ve grown the way it did and while yes I am athlete was through Brandon Marshall’s company, the reality is the success of the podcast was not because of Brandon Marshall. It was was successful because of the chemistry of all four of the guys on the podcast and I think in the midst of the podcast growing, I felt Brandon Marshall side of that. Maybe one day they could squash their teeth, but it’s very sad and unfortunate that it came to this.
Also, what are the thing that’s very telling to show you how shady Brandon is when it comes to business if you remember, Reggie Wayne was on the first few episodes and then Reggie Wayne left and Channing Crowder sitting in an interview the reason why Reggie Wayne left is that he said point “ Brandon isn’t going to do good business” to me that’s very telling of how Brandon Marshall does business
Why black people move as if there's a limit on demand is baffling. 😢. I definitely see why Cam does it alone, and neither side is innocent. I heard some things from R.C & Brandon's lips that wasn't 💯
fred taylor is a real one, Reggie Wayne saw they show was going to go left real quick and he bailed early
Brandon is back to those mental breakdowns.
Ryan Clark did not want to be under Brandon, period.. quit hating Brandon
Literally everyone left Marshall at some point if everyone keeps leaving you accusing you of shady practices and they are or were ya boys........it's you.
Or they're painting a narrative
And this is why ppl be afraid of putting folks on cause they will learn the business and go do it themselves
Can somebody answer a question for me? did any of these guys deny that Brandon Marshall put all his money in? Cuz its looking like they only had the courage to invest $ in their own show after seeing the success of what they built off Brandon's. If thats the case, im siding with Brandon
Nicca, how do your ish locks stay up?
Both of these dudes are victims of being in their own way. I dont rock with em.
They’re winning because it’s 3 equal people investing in it. Compared to one person.
I love how cam is uncomfortable with Brandon cuz he know sum ain’t right
Cam also looks at Fred Taylor with a great deal of reverence
MARSHALL is a beast bro in a bad way !This man allegedly pumped drugs in his own community LARMIER PITTSBURGH PA the mighty NFL gave this man a license to kill allegedly!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Media is a popularity contest . Bro stole his whole platform and thought it was no consequences , talking about Ryan Clark . Them cats let that man front the bill for they pod cast and then left him hanging . They shady as hell for that .
It simply boils down to the fact that this guy has made terrible financial decisions.
Dude, owner of this channel, how many channels do you have???
a couple why?
Brandon Wife the master behind the business scenes. She the one that pushed all the puzzles pieces the way it is. If you put together each person's perspective, it sounds like alot of miscommunication and ppl in ppls ear causing confusion.
I don't know why ya'll don't realize that Brandon Marshall is trying not to snap off and break everybody's pinky finger. He's sitting there thinking about it as we speak.
You must not have heard the multiple locker room stories of Marshall not being tough and getting beat TF up
literally invented a violent fantasy about a dude who aint a tough guy
Don't agree with much of what Marshall said but if he truly was the only one investing/funding and doing 90% of the work then he should be the one getting 90% of that success
Fred has solid points on Brandon but it's not nobody fault when parties wanna split over vision.fred wanted ownership Brandon couldn't give him that after all he spent but it could of been handled better.ryan Clark the real snake I didn't know Brandon had been talking to him a yr prior.that tells u Ryan didn't fk w Brandon from the jump.brandon issue was n is he's about the Brand more than the morals most times.then when he cares about morals like how Shannon Sharpe did Russ makin it about the office n tearing him down when really it's jus bad play it throw ppl off cuz ppl remember him being harsh on guys himself n sayin stuff like basketball players are soft.or goin for jermell charlo vs canelo.brandon jus been on the losin side lately.but def root for him to win jus lik I do w fred.sucks it went that way
If Brandon can change the agreement he had with Fred after a year due to him investing…. Then Ryan can change his mind after a year due to the break up 🤷🏽♂️
I disagree about Ryan Clark. Brandon reached out to have Clark consider combining platforms. Clark considered his options went in a different direction and communicated that. He never promised or suggested that that was what he would do. He also expressed to Marshall that it was room for both of their success. When the split happen he chose to support Marshalls former partners because their talent was already proven and they had alot of momentum. He understood that it may strain the relationship he had with Brandon in endeavors outside of podcasting. He communicated again to give Marshall an opportunity to part professionally. Marshall did not take those opportunities. Instead choosing indirect actions resulting in Clark’s wasted time and slander for his former Partners including Ryan. The worst thing his former partners had said publicly after the split is that they would not work with him again and I believe Fred said he felt disrespected without giving specifics. Marshall dragged it into the mud. He’s too emotional as was demonstrated in his tirade at Ocho Cinco on the show. He has every right to feel disappointed in his partners or, to a degree betrayed by Clark…but lying is lying. That is what he has done and been proven to do.
Russ played like trash. It was warranted
@@kennethcook3127 I don't give a damn when you came to this conclusion 7:00 in the morning or 7 at night. Nobody needs to be talked about the way Russell was talked bout. You're sorry ass don't have nobody critiquing you all day all year cuz we know you would have messed up and people would have put you online. It had nothing to do with the office. His play had everything to do with the team not being healthy and the coach not getting them ready to play. So whatever points you thought you had you just got declined.its not about Russ as person or his woman or his office or his qb coach it's about his play on the field
@@vOOvit a yr before. It doesn't take a whole year to know you not f****** with somebody
I’m a Steelers fan and Ryan Clark annoying at times He needs to check himself and focus on that . podcast he on. Fred and Channing look like they were on for the ride. They turned around and stole Brandon’s vision to start up their own channel ! They could have at least set it up differently! They took the same exact vision and made it their own! Be original! Smh
Ryan facial expressions always look like he’s thinking about what words he’s about to use 😂
He has the same face I do when I'm taking an extra large shit.
@professionalvictimshateme Seriously
He is corny
Because he wants to use the right words because he knows the power of words. They can damage, destroy and more. People should probably learn that lesson as well. Then they wouldn't be so surprised when their words come back to haunt them. But yes by all means keep speaking without thinking. See where that gets you.
Cam said he not cutting nothing definitely adding fuel to the fire for views
Ryan clark is kinda corny but i like the guy i feel like hes genuine and he dnt need to be like anybody else
He's a stand up guy and no where near corny as Russell Wilson.
@@faithinallthingsw4088 naa russel takes the cake forsure
Bottom line is that the contracts should have been written and negotiated. They did it on the verbal, which is what everyone did wrong. Now everyone has the right to renegotiate etc. At that point we do the right or don’t. The easiest thing to do would have been to split up four ways. Nobody knew what it was going to do.
B-Marsh was a beast of a wide receiver
Lets get Daean Jacksons opinion on this situation
Known Brandon Marshall is kind of a weirdo since he was traded to the Bears. Always seemed like he was trying too hard to be perfect, especially with his checkered past at that point.
I have come to realize men are more" petty" than women. Whether you like Brandon or not, truth be told, he really reintroduced all the guys, except Ryan to many of us on I Am Athlete during covid. It was that show that took the original cast careers to higher levels.
Now you've probably made the silliest comment on here. You must be a Brandon Marshall fanboy
@@bkj58no she's telling the truth not to mention unless your a FL person Channing and Fred are relatively unknown ex-players.
@bkj58 No, I am a woman that can have an objective point of view.