People were really fucked up when discussing suicide victims back in the day. No wonder poor Kurt couldn’t get the help he really needed as the media hounded and shat on him hard for his addiction. RIP you were to smart for your time Kurt
@@rc59191 Yeah it's amazing that anybody actually believes it was suicide with all the evidence showing it was not, that he could not have done it, that there was the paper that Courtney was practicing some letters on, and those were ones used by her at the bottom of the so-called "suicide note," that she had the motive, he was going to leave her, she was after the MONEY, she was dangerous - also Eldon Hoke was hit by a train and Kristen Pfaff overdosed........both very convenient for Courtney....she needs to be in prison the rest of her life...at least prison.....
Obviously I don't agree with him but I noticed that there was not any kind of follow-up question about the shirt from the person talking to him. Unless the question was cut out. She asked about the shirt and that was it. That's honestly how it should be. I feel like if this all happened these days then there would be this entire discussion on how wearing the shirt is wrong and there would be 6 people surrounding him screaming that he needed to take it off etc. She was just like ok here's the shirt, it's his opinion, let's move on
It's not our place to say if someone went to Heaven or hell when they died. We can't even say Adolf Hitler is in hell, it's not up to us. God's ways aren't ours. In fact it's a sin for us to say a person went to hell.
God, I remember that day so vividly. I was very young, 3rd grade, and my best friend and I were the only ones who even knew who he was and were really sad. It was the first time in my life anyone I knew of had committed suicide. Admittedly I think his death sort of gave birth to a lifetime of suicidal ideation as a way to mentally escape a tremendously abusive childhood. Even if I didn’t ever intend to act on it, it was oddly comforting to know there was an escape hatch if I ever needed it. I’m sure this will be shocking to some, but I know others will understand. (I’m fine now). But yes, definitely a vivid and impactful childhood memory.
"Its a cop out" I hate it when people say that. As someone who has gone through something like this it's so demining hearing that. Some people's pain is so powerful that you feel like quitting. Putting someone down or belittling someone because of a choice they have with pain is so judgemental
@@jk4675 please take a second and listen how insensitive you sound. Kurt had serious demons and he couldn’t take it anymore, so he did what he thought was right.
Just a picture of what mental health awareness was at the time..... Getting into the mid 90s.... The way it was back then I probably would've punched that kid right in the face
I don’t see the Sid vicious comparison at all and saying Kurt is in hell that fresh of his death that’s just cold enough but to go out of your way to make a shirt saying it too trying to promote the shit is sad
Well my husband passed away recently 😢...I am hurting bad..and I believe that he is in Heaven...or going? Depending on whom we believe, Catholic- pergotory. Christian ✝️ with God now.
Nobody questioning how did that last guy make a kurt is in hell shirt litterally the day after his death. Like he even has unique font man must be a dedicated Kurt Cobain hater which you just gotta respect the dedication to absolutely hate one person that much
Nowadays Kurt Cobain is considered one of the greatest music artists of all time and a legend but when he passed no one was saying any of that after he passed away the same people you see in this video that was talking s*** about him are the same people that are now praising him.
For some time, due to the fact that Courtney consumed drugs while pregnant, press used to call Kurt and Courtney in the 90s "The John and Yoko of grunge" or "The next Sid and Nancy"
Wow I can not believe how vicious people were told like that. Painting a negative picture rather than the victim he is.. Yes peace be with you my friend. The fan knew with her heart something is not right.
My mom said when she heard she just didn’t know why he did it. Why would someone so on top end it all? Of course that’s before everyone was more concerned about mental health and whatnot.
as a sex pistols fan and nirvana fan too, i can kinda understand why the girl said he's trying to be like Sid Vicious, (Kurt did weird shit on stage and i've seen him sneering, like Sid did)
@@CaddRome It was used as the cover art of an unofficial bootleg called Dawn of the Black Hearts. Euronymous (a really weird dude) took a bunch of photos, one of them he gave to someone who used it for that cover art, all the other ones are lost media. Euronymous also repositioned the items and I'm pretty sure even Dead's body. The photo is super low quality. I can't handle gore, but I can handle that photo, it doesn't even look real. Mayhem's story is super messed up.
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I remember when Kurt Cobain passed away but it's unbelievable though but was he murdered or was it really suicide it's really been weird after all these years
Of course he killed himself, think about it man, weigh the mitigating factors. First off, it's a conspiracy that he was murdered that literally started a day after he was dead, well before anyone had any evidence or details about his death. Secondly he was a serious drug addict with serious mental issues, he was suicidal well before his final attempt. At the time of his death they had DNA forensics and many other resources available. If he was murdered, by now, we would have been informed of some kind of evidence pointing to exactly who it was. We even know who killed Tupac and biggie now and that guy was in a completely different vehicle. Kurt had a manic episode that was likely drug induced. The drugs also intensified his mania and he shot himself.
Yeah but his fingerprints were not on the gun though whoever bought the gun for him their fingerprints were on the gun so I think it was murdered because there is no way he could have killed himself with that shotgun and said sayonara because how could someone inject themselves with heroin and shoot up and end up shooting themselves he didn't kill himself it was murder hundred percent Kurt Cobain was murdered
1:22 every one sins, so i guess that means we're all going to hell. Ephesians 2:8-9 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
That t shirt that the last dude is wearing is disgraceful.people obviously did not know about mental health back then. was he looking for attention or what?
Typical of society, at 30 seconds in, the girl is slamming him with ‘I think he is trying too hard to be like Syd Vicious’ and then when she hears he died, she gets all dramatic and devasted. Total crap.
There’s no "misinformation" there, he took his own life, with a shotgun in his mouth! He used his toe to pull the trigger! I feel more sorrow for the handyman electrician that found him while doing some maintenance on Kurt’s house!
He had multiple failed suicide attempts, and Courtney saved his live when he OD'ed in Rome. Even if she killed him she didn't shorten his life by much.
Back when I heard of his death I was all messed up as a teenager. Now I think he was just an A-hole looking for an excuse to get out of having to become an adult.
Kurt could be in hell, but if you commit suicide with full knowledge, then that’s a sin. But usually when people commit suicide, they have demons haunting them, and Kurt was on heroin so he did not have full knowledge.
it’s not a sin, people who do that (for the most part) are not in the right state of mind, they have a mental illness. they’re not in hell, they’re finally at peace moron. and hell isn’t even real, it’s mentioned NOWHERE in the bible
@@kutazin1818 hell is for bad people. Kurt isn’t bad just because he did drugs and killed himself. Kurt had a shit life, and he felt he had no way out. Sending him to hell is adding insult to injury
@@wantutosigh1117 I don’t think Kurt was a victim of murder, I think that’s just a stage of grieving and people don’t want to believe he actually committed suicide. His life was fucked up at that point, so it really makes sense that he killer himself
@@Nathan-xt6gz damn long stage of grief. I don't believe he committed suicide because of the information we have. I would be well over that stage of grief if there was nothing to it. Kurt was in a miserable marriage that he desperately needed to get out of which he was in the process of doing. He was also being pressured by managers and others to keep performing and making money when he wanted to take a break. And he was still addicted to heroin. Those were things going on in his life at that point. All things he was strong enough to overcome and straighten out.
perfect example of our society, “rest in peace, friend” after just seconds before making a negative claim about him.
Isn't it lovely that our society wishes peace upon the dead regardless of our negative claims about them? I think that's beautiful
@@benblair2591 that’s what I was thinking
what negative claim?
@@Ian-qs3fz"I think he is trying too much to be like Sid Vicious"
It’s not even a hateful comment in any way
People were really fucked up when discussing suicide victims back in the day. No wonder poor Kurt couldn’t get the help he really needed as the media hounded and shat on him hard for his addiction. RIP you were to smart for your time Kurt
Except all the evidence points to Courtney Love putting a hit out on him.
@@rc59191 Yeah it's amazing that anybody actually believes it was suicide with all the evidence showing it was not, that he could not have done it, that there was the paper that Courtney was practicing some letters on, and those were ones used by her at the bottom of the so-called "suicide note," that she had the motive, he was going to leave her, she was after the MONEY, she was dangerous - also Eldon Hoke was hit by a train and Kristen Pfaff overdosed........both very convenient for Courtney....she needs to be in prison the rest of her life...at least prison.....
He was smart for any time
Its still the same.
Suicide has only climbed as it is been destigmatized. It is a sin, murder is not allowed.
Fun fact: Kurt and Courtney used to check into hotels/motels under the names Sid and Nancy. lol
A young Courtney is literally in the film Sid & Nancy, with decent screen time too.
Under the name "Richie", as in Simon Richie.
Damn
Or John Simon Ritchie
Yea and look what happened to them blooming loosers !!!
"Kurt's in Hell"
"Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?"
Right!!!!
I bet hes those BLM Supporters right now
Obviously I don't agree with him but I noticed that there was not any kind of follow-up question about the shirt from the person talking to him. Unless the question was cut out. She asked about the shirt and that was it. That's honestly how it should be. I feel like if this all happened these days then there would be this entire discussion on how wearing the shirt is wrong and there would be 6 people surrounding him screaming that he needed to take it off etc. She was just like ok here's the shirt, it's his opinion, let's move on
It's not our place to say if someone went to Heaven or hell when they died. We can't even say Adolf Hitler is in hell, it's not up to us. God's ways aren't ours. In fact it's a sin for us to say a person went to hell.
@@jiveassturkey8849 Which bronze age goat herder mythology deity do you speak of?
@@jiveassturkey8849ok but hitler is in hell
“Kurt is in hell” bro that is fucked 💀
honestly couldn’t tell if he was serious
@@cliffordxxxI think he was. Looked and sound like d*ck.
What really happend is Kurt stayed a young forever while he got old and dying
I think it looks kinda badass. Of course he probably shouldn't have worn it right after his death...
@@aset8750 bro he’s a nerdy black guy nothing badass about it
God, I remember that day so vividly. I was very young, 3rd grade, and my best friend and I were the only ones who even knew who he was and were really sad. It was the first time in my life anyone I knew of had committed suicide. Admittedly I think his death sort of gave birth to a lifetime of suicidal ideation as a way to mentally escape a tremendously abusive childhood. Even if I didn’t ever intend to act on it, it was oddly comforting to know there was an escape hatch if I ever needed it. I’m sure this will be shocking to some, but I know others will understand. (I’m fine now). But yes, definitely a vivid and impactful childhood memory.
Hear, hear!
Same boat homie except I was ~13.
I miss the comfort in being saddddd
Sid vicious wishes he could be Kurt wtf
He couldn't even take on Freddie Mercury.
@@ECW5320 lmao right! Didn’t Freddie emotionally destroy his ego during a recording session?
@@MessageMan4225 Yeah, he even pushed him and Sid din't do a damn thing about it.
@@ECW5320because Sid was a 20 year old heroin addict
ABSOLUTELY!!!! Exactly 💯 what I was thinking!🖤🤘
Them "I thinks he trying to much like sid vicious"
Me "man this man is more than sid ever will be"
Right....
Sid was more junkie
I feel like Kurt would love that shirt honestly
"Its a cop out"
I hate it when people say that.
As someone who has gone through something like this it's so demining hearing that. Some people's pain is so powerful that you feel like quitting.
Putting someone down or belittling someone because of a choice they have with pain is so judgemental
“He blew his brains out with a shotgun” is not a good way to tell someone that someone else ended their life
"Suicide is a sin". So is judging others.
He didn't
@@andrewrussell9653 it's judgement, clearly.
@@blackou6018how
judgement is not a sin.
@@cualfuneri2510 ...Bible says we're not to judge other people as that is God's place.
0:59 years later, they reprint his journal and people wear his suicide note on a t shirt. she was exactly right
that last guy, what the fuck? kurt isn't in hell, that man is sitting on a cloud with Jesus himself in heaven
@@jk4675 please take a second and listen how insensitive you sound. Kurt had serious demons and he couldn’t take it anymore, so he did what he thought was right.
Just a picture of what mental health awareness was at the time..... Getting into the mid 90s.... The way it was back then I probably would've punched that kid right in the face
I’m not a religious person but He’s in a batter place now.
Kurt would’ve found this funny
absolutely not. before he was famous he'd go spraying on walls "god is gay". that's not a reason to go to heaven and definetly one to go to hell.
That last dude had no chill
I don’t see the Sid vicious comparison at all and saying Kurt is in hell that fresh of his death that’s just cold enough but to go out of your way to make a shirt saying it too trying to promote the shit is sad
People who die are nowhere but in the ones who love them thoughts
I’m sure you know that with 100% certainty. You’ve died and checked it out and came back to enlighten us all, right?
@@jiveassturkey8849 there is no god we killed him 💀
Well my husband passed away recently 😢...I am hurting bad..and I believe that he is in Heaven...or going? Depending on whom we believe, Catholic- pergotory. Christian ✝️ with God now.
@@jiveassturkey8849 A modern day prophet!!!
@@jiveassturkey8849i have a couple times, absolutely nothing brother. it’s pretty depressing
Nobody questioning how did that last guy make a kurt is in hell shirt litterally the day after his death. Like he even has unique font man must be a dedicated Kurt Cobain hater which you just gotta respect the dedication to absolutely hate one person that much
Right out of all the bands ? He hated on the 1 rockstar band who didn’t objective women and drugs , as a reward
Bro is a certified day 1 hater wtf 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I like the girl’s shirt at 0:42. She looks cool with her sleeves rolled up.
This was a day after his death, before people began realizing it likely wasn't suicide as the official story claims.
Nowadays Kurt Cobain is considered one of the greatest music artists of all time and a legend but when he passed no one was saying any of that after he passed away the same people you see in this video that was talking s*** about him are the same people that are now praising him.
Sid vicious? Really
He got compared to him since the whole heroin thing
For some time, due to the fact that Courtney consumed drugs while pregnant, press used to call Kurt and Courtney in the 90s "The John and Yoko of grunge" or "The next Sid and Nancy"
Well, are two punk references in two periods
In terms of talent, zero comparison obviously.
Wow I can not believe how vicious people were told like that. Painting a negative picture rather than the victim he is.. Yes peace be with you my friend. The fan knew with her heart something is not right.
Without social media it took longer to hear news like that
1:25 pinnacle loser
0:36 LOL
Hell is the RUclips comments section 🔥
The next day she was a big nirvana fan . it’s sad, you know she hopped on the wagon after
“Kurt is in hell” No human has the right to say where anyone is going because that’s Gods decision. Not ours.
0:19 damn that hits hard
The last guy is going where he said Kurt would go and Kurt’s not there but the other guy will
as a Christian even I have to say this guy at 1:21 was super disrespectful
rest in peace... friend :(
I think that first girl was genuinely shocked but trying to act like she didnt care at first but was a fan
"he blew his brains out with a shot gun"
Sheesh, lady! 🤨
My mom said when she heard she just didn’t know why he did it. Why would someone so on top end it all? Of course that’s before everyone was more concerned about mental health and whatnot.
no matter what people day kurts music raised me
as a sex pistols fan and nirvana fan too, i can kinda understand why the girl said he's trying to be like Sid Vicious, (Kurt did weird shit on stage and i've seen him sneering, like Sid did)
Kurt shot himself ... with the weapon he had Dylan buy ..... no one else handled the weapon ..... open / shut case ... RIP Kurt
people get killed with their own gun everyday guy
Thank you
Rest in piece friend
kurt probably would laughing of that bro wearing kurts in hell tshirt
Like sid viscous ,big difference ,kurt had talent
His early death garunteed him infamy but he's not around to enjoy it that's the sad part
Infamy infamy they've all got it in for me ...
More sad how ppl called him a poser even in death when Kurt was suffering so disgusting.
I’ll never ever forget that day 😢
The reporter said he blew his brains out there was no grossly deformation to his head the shotgun round didn't even pierce his skull.
Well when it’s in your mouth the shotgun will typically blow your neck apart at the base of the skull!!!!!
Why was Pauly Shore commenting at the start?
Sid committed suicide and kurt was murdered
Kurt woulda loved that shirt
0:31 Graphic much? You could of just said he committed suicide or something 💀
He didn't blow his brains out, his head was completely intact.
Oh so you were at the scene then?
Please tell us what you saw!!!!!
@@tonyjohnson5958 there are images of his corpse.
There is a picture of the dead body of... well, Dead... from Mayhem that is out on the internet, and his head is pretty intact for a shotgun blast.
@@waycnf7229Ive got to see this for uh.... Clarity
@@CaddRome It was used as the cover art of an unofficial bootleg called Dawn of the Black Hearts. Euronymous (a really weird dude) took a bunch of photos, one of them he gave to someone who used it for that cover art, all the other ones are lost media. Euronymous also repositioned the items and I'm pretty sure even Dead's body.
The photo is super low quality. I can't handle gore, but I can handle that photo, it doesn't even look real. Mayhem's story is super messed up.
gotta respect that kid rocking a kurt's in hell shirt. prob walking around getting in fistfights
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@@icecoldleone3988 "Burner"
Nah, he's wearing that trying to antagonise and upset people and for what? He's a brainwashed fool.
ICECOLDLEONE what does it matter how many people are subscribed?? My yt account isn’t a channel, it just exists so I can interact with people in the comments.
any video with smell like teen spirits song in it, is made by someone who doesn't understand kurt
Bruh...
Srsly? Sid Vicious is the comparison???
To Kurt?
Well they were both Heroin addicts that were too stupid to seek help…..
Incredible how they all bought the lie.
What?
I didn't like that black kid's shirt. Must have been one of those types of hellfire and brimstone christians.
it's such an inappropriate thing to wear
I remember when Kurt Cobain passed away but it's unbelievable though but was he murdered or was it really suicide it's really been weird after all these years
Of course he killed himself, think about it man, weigh the mitigating factors. First off, it's a conspiracy that he was murdered that literally started a day after he was dead, well before anyone had any evidence or details about his death. Secondly he was a serious drug addict with serious mental issues, he was suicidal well before his final attempt. At the time of his death they had DNA forensics and many other resources available. If he was murdered, by now, we would have been informed of some kind of evidence pointing to exactly who it was. We even know who killed Tupac and biggie now and that guy was in a completely different vehicle. Kurt had a manic episode that was likely drug induced. The drugs also intensified his mania and he shot himself.
Yeah but his fingerprints were not on the gun though whoever bought the gun for him their fingerprints were on the gun so I think it was murdered because there is no way he could have killed himself with that shotgun and said sayonara because how could someone inject themselves with heroin and shoot up and end up shooting themselves he didn't kill himself it was murder hundred percent Kurt Cobain was murdered
He had multiple failed suicide attempts, so even if Courtney killed him it wouldnt have mattered. He would have killed himself either way.
@@kevinpedz tupac was killed by shug and biggie killed by puff end of story
I had someone tell me he used his toe to pull the trigger !! These dumb mfers - his shoes were on ! Nice detective work
Shoes have a tip, jou can push the trigger down with that thing.
@@lowie9783Yea as if he wasn’t extremely high on heroin to the point he couldn’t walk and he had converse on okay..
@@hixum5352 he had multiple failed suicide attemots. Murder was practically pointless.
Sid Vicious didn’t have a talented bone in his body. There no comparison between he and Kurt except for both liking smack
Did she really compare Kurt to Sid Vicious. Really….🫤
1:22 every one sins, so i guess that means we're all going to hell.
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
That t shirt that the last dude is wearing is disgraceful.people obviously did not know about mental health back then.
was he looking for attention or what?
I'm Kurt
The earth is hell.
was it on April 5, 1994
“Kurt is in hell cuz suicide is a sin. 🤓”
Lol that dude is black he doesn’t realize he’s already in hell …Kurt escaped hell
Typical of society, at 30 seconds in, the girl is slamming him with ‘I think he is trying too hard to be like Syd Vicious’ and then when she hears he died, she gets all dramatic and devasted. Total crap.
Kurt is in hell cause, that is indeed a sin. See you there friend.
Kobain is more talented than sid vicious
Fun fact he didn’t kill him self he was murdered watch soaked in bleach and come back and tell me Courtney love didn’t off him
Soaked in Bleach is an error filled work of fiction thats been trashed even by the people who appear in the film
Hell? God don't love us right
Misinformation- Kurt didn’t shoot himself .
There’s no "misinformation" there, he took his own life, with a shotgun in his mouth!
He used his toe to pull the trigger!
I feel more sorrow for the handyman electrician that found him while doing some maintenance on Kurt’s house!
@@tonyjohnson5958 His shoes were on his feet detective!! Omg…
He had multiple failed suicide attempts, and Courtney saved his live when he OD'ed in Rome. Even if she killed him she didn't shorten his life by much.
Shut up nerd
Yahushua HaMashiach is the Truth
The black kid seems to not care at all about Kurt's death, and then very much care about Kurt's death lol
bad vibes
Back when I heard of his death I was all messed up as a teenager.
Now I think he was just an A-hole looking for an excuse to get out of having to become an adult.
nirvnaa is a cheap pixies ripoff
Kurt could be in hell, but if you commit suicide with full knowledge, then that’s a sin. But usually when people commit suicide, they have demons haunting them, and Kurt was on heroin so he did not have full knowledge.
If Kurt is in hell then he’s a black man living in America rn
@@icecoldleone3988 what?
@@m727yw can you read?
it’s not a sin, people who do that (for the most part) are not in the right state of mind, they have a mental illness. they’re not in hell, they’re finally at peace moron. and hell isn’t even real, it’s mentioned NOWHERE in the bible
Yeah. I guess we'll know
Worst fans ever… “He must have been trying to imitate Sid Vicious…”, Say What? 🫤
that last guy, what the fuck? kurt isn't in hell, that man is sitting on a cloud with Jesus himself in heaven
i like him too but just because you may like kurt cobain doesnt mean he is in heaven
he killed himself which i believe is one of the worst sins
@@kutazin1818 hell is for bad people. Kurt isn’t bad just because he did drugs and killed himself. Kurt had a shit life, and he felt he had no way out. Sending him to hell is adding insult to injury
Kurt is a victim of murder. So it would really be unfair for him to be in hell. If you believe in that stuff.
@@wantutosigh1117 I don’t think Kurt was a victim of murder, I think that’s just a stage of grieving and people don’t want to believe he actually committed suicide. His life was fucked up at that point, so it really makes sense that he killer himself
@@Nathan-xt6gz damn long stage of grief. I don't believe he committed suicide because of the information we have. I would be well over that stage of grief if there was nothing to it. Kurt was in a miserable marriage that he desperately needed to get out of which he was in the process of doing. He was also being pressured by managers and others to keep performing and making money when he wanted to take a break. And he was still addicted to heroin. Those were things going on in his life at that point. All things he was strong enough to overcome and straighten out.