I'm extremely disappointed with the AI EASus separator. The results were subpar, with muddy vocals and faint, residual instruments.The main issue with Suno is that the audio quality is decidedly lo-fi, making it impossible for the separated tracks to sound good unless they're in hi-fi. Unfortunately, this means that the AI-generated music will always be easily identifiable. What's even more frustrating is that Suno's stems are worse than those of EASus, which is unacceptable considering we're paying for the service. To improve, Suno needs to provide the option to record in hi-fi and export in WAV format. Until then, the quality will remain trash.
I notice in your music style you have "jazz playful". Try adding things like "clear, confident vocals" or "Sultry female vocals" (or velvety, or whatever you're after). I find it helps A LOT in improving Suno's voices.
I'm new to SUNO but not Audimee, Audimee was my next step to repair my extracted vocals. Thanks for the example, now I know for sure it will work. Cheers!
I'm extremely disappointed with the AI separator I tried. The results were subpar, with muddy vocals and faint, residual instruments.The main issue with Suno is that the audio quality is decidedly lo-fi, making it impossible for the separated tracks to sound good unless they're in hi-fi. Unfortunately, this means that the AI-generated music will always be easily identifiable. What's even more frustrating is that Suno's stems are worse than those of EASus, which is unacceptable considering we're paying for the service. To improve, Suno needs to provide the option to record in hi-fi and export in WAV format. Until then, the quality will remain trash.
I use a similar workflow, but often with heavier genres the mixed audio causes loss of syllables. If you use a separate stem splitter, for the vocal copy I recommend boosting eq in the vocal range about 200-600hz or so depending on the male or female vocals. Then high pass filter below 100hz to cut sub frequencies. Also you can layer multiple tracks with a limiter if you have a studio setup to bring out some clarity. I’ve had better luck not performing spectral cleanup since it sometimes drops off some frequencies that audimee or kits can pick up.
A couple of observations: the original vocal track has to be clear and loaud otherwise Audimee will not produce a good vocal line with a lot of drop outs. I tried it on a song that had very lush reverb effects, regardless of whether I removed the effects or not, or what I did to the track the Audimee track had a very dry vocal performance with drop outs every few words making it not usable. Still, it could work on other tracks which I want to try out later. The chord app only works on Macs o/s. It would be awesome if they ported that to PC.
You can "unnoise" the Suno sometimes noisy, scratchy vocals (they seem to mistake "airy" for noizy) when you are working with a Spectral Editor like Spaectralayers. Split the vocals into its 3 Components "Tonal, Transient, Noise" The quick way is turning the Level of the "Noise" Channel a bit down, but that works only semi. The better way is to work this Channel with an EQ. You definitely dont need much of the Lover End noise that is just rumbling. And you dont need the Frequencies that are causing the scratchy Sound... It takes a bit of time and practice but you will find out what Bands you need for good sounding vocals and what not. Works in 90% of the time. Till now I did not see that anyone had this Idea before so: youre Welcome! ;-) (Please don't ask me any more about this, if you totally dont understand what I m talking about, sorry, i am not a Teacher of your junior High, ok?)
this is what i needed ty for this , i use fadr/ stems for stems Separation it can separate up 14 instruments and finds key song and chord progression , also u can download them as midi , been using it for 4 months
Thanks for this! But just a few hours ago, audimee put my favourite voice behind a pay wall, which is an absolute bummer, but I'll adjust to others. Thank you again!
Im surprised that no one has developed an AI driven "repair vocals" service yet. Imagine being able to feed AI vocals into audimee, feed it text lyrics, and the the AI automatically smoothing, filling, and fixing the lyrics, correcting unclear artifacts and replacing it with clear sound with new vocals. I'd gladly pay for that!
I am surprised how many people are producers and songwriters bit no musician anywhere. I'm sure they will produce the magic button for youv, so you don't have to do anything else than press the button. Next to the button will be a fader. If you push it up it will generate your social media popularity algorithm ... Or even better fck those buttons and faders. Just put an electrode to your forehead and think about how popular you want to be and you don't even have to make a song! 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@MentalBlue Yeah man! But wait, thats exactly like DJs who think they're musicians when they're just mixing together other people's creations, tapping on tech stuff and puzzling pre-made sounds... Ok, maybe instrument makers also used to think that way? At least, one has to have a certain musical sense to create new inventions for musical expression; or even a higher one... Certainly both are an art onto themself.. I take back my impulsive agreement, because according to your sarcasm, people with good vocal chords could also be criticised and natural talents who never had to practice to sing grandiosely; according to your logic, one would also have to condemn people who play sports on a console instead of sweating themselves outside - then also people who watch other people on TV; instead of themselves living actively in that moment - this will go on and on - better let's clarify the question of whether and to what extent your desire to be famous prevents you from becoming famous?
This method has a big disadvantage: The original vocal stem from Suno contains a lot of artifacts and sound material that belong to the instrumental track - if you generate new vocals without these artifacts, they will be missing in the new vocal track, thus in the new mix and you can hear it clearly. The vocals sound better, but the instrumental that is laying under the vocals sounds worse because this sound material is missing. By the way, who needs an online Stem separator when you use Logic as a DAW? You can easily use Logic for extracting stems into 4 tracks ant it works very well.
Hi, I would really appreciate if you could please share the "Chord AI" link. I tried searching myself, but couldn't find the one you're using in the video.
Sorry for the questions, beginner here. When you used ChordAI to detect the key of the song it said Dm 195bpm. When you imported and mastered it in Logic it said Cmaj 120bpm. My questions are why? Why did logic not detect it the same as ChordAI? The mastered output, was that in Dm or Cmaj? Thanks.
Is Suno Accept Own Voice. For Duet Can We Include Both Female & male Vocal on Suno. Also Can We upload Our Composition and Suno Can make the Music Arrange According to Our Music Arrangement & Tune 9Composition).
I don't understand. When I chose a singer to convert, the one on the right didn't sound like original singer with cleaned up vocals. How did you get it to match?
What I think is funny is most of it just sounds like auto tune to me. My friend (who has a few LPs out) has been accused of using AI but she just used auto tune in some parts (high notes) to clean it up.
I don't like the fact that Suno doesn't give an option to save as flac or wav. Vocals sometimes do sound bad and using stems is too involving, time consuming and complicated for most people I would think.
downloading stems in suno gives you wavs. its a bit hit and miss on quality. Aside from the obvious conflict of interest with the sponsorship in the video there are alternatives. The method i've used that works great for me is to take the suno song and import it into udio, and then use udio's stem separation which gives you better separation than suno.
@@ChrisUnlocksAI Hi Chris thanks but this link is for an iPad version - you are showing a Mac desktop version and I cannot find where you got that - please help!
ai voice .... use in lyricswindow [denoise] and at voice: [Ai Voice: -3Dba -lovely female voice, -pitched 2 tone up,] then what the voice setting and genre info be as example: [Ai Voice: -Screaming Ai Voice male, -young female voice, -hard riffs, -metalcore, -playing tone A G F C, -hard drops with trancevibe,] what you need more then suno? nerds are nerds no musicians! 🤓
That’s just too much work. I subscribe annually to Suno, but when another AI generator comes along that has better vocal besides Udio I don’t like it, I will not be using Suno anymore I have emailed them numerous times letting them know how crappy the vocals are and I won’t be a repeated annual subscriber if it doesn’t improve. I refuse to do all the things you said here I shouldn’t have to.
@@AI_Expedition I remastered and overall quality improved but the vocals are still shite. Udio just does it better and Suno has the best interface, and features. Marry them, child is born, BOOM, the perfect system.
Download EASEus Here. bit.ly/4cC7Dot
Nah, use Lalal AI
I'm extremely disappointed with the AI EASus separator. The results were subpar, with muddy vocals and faint, residual instruments.The main issue with Suno is that the audio quality is decidedly lo-fi, making it impossible for the separated tracks to sound good unless they're in hi-fi. Unfortunately, this means that the AI-generated music will always be easily identifiable. What's even more frustrating is that Suno's stems are worse than those of EASus, which is unacceptable considering we're paying for the service. To improve, Suno needs to provide the option to record in hi-fi and export in WAV format. Until then, the quality will remain trash.
@@NoahtheGameplayer They're both trash.
I notice in your music style you have "jazz playful". Try adding things like "clear, confident vocals" or "Sultry female vocals" (or velvety, or whatever you're after). I find it helps A LOT in improving Suno's voices.
I'm new to SUNO but not Audimee, Audimee was my next step to repair my extracted vocals.
Thanks for the example, now I know for sure it will work. Cheers!
I'm extremely disappointed with the AI separator I tried. The results were subpar, with muddy vocals and faint, residual instruments.The main issue with Suno is that the audio quality is decidedly lo-fi, making it impossible for the separated tracks to sound good unless they're in hi-fi. Unfortunately, this means that the AI-generated music will always be easily identifiable. What's even more frustrating is that Suno's stems are worse than those of EASus, which is unacceptable considering we're paying for the service. To improve, Suno needs to provide the option to record in hi-fi and export in WAV format. Until then, the quality will remain trash.
I use a similar workflow, but often with heavier genres the mixed audio causes loss of syllables.
If you use a separate stem splitter, for the vocal copy I recommend boosting eq in the vocal range about 200-600hz or so depending on the male or female vocals. Then high pass filter below 100hz to cut sub frequencies.
Also you can layer multiple tracks with a limiter if you have a studio setup to bring out some clarity.
I’ve had better luck not performing spectral cleanup since it sometimes drops off some frequencies that audimee or kits can pick up.
way better?? Its a game changer for me. Thank you so much!!
A couple of observations: the original vocal track has to be clear and loaud otherwise Audimee will not produce a good vocal line with a lot of drop outs. I tried it on a song that had very lush reverb effects, regardless of whether I removed the effects or not, or what I did to the track the Audimee track had a very dry vocal performance with drop outs every few words making it not usable. Still, it could work on other tracks which I want to try out later.
The chord app only works on Macs o/s. It would be awesome if they ported that to PC.
Maybe filtering and compress voice previous import in Audimee?
Thank you so much for showing me how to do this! I didn't even know these programs existed and I make a lot of AI music. Well done sir!
If you didn't know about these programs, what are you using apps from 5 years ago? LOL!
@ I knew about Suno, but not about the other programs he talks about. I’m old Ok, it’s not easy keeping up.
You can "unnoise" the Suno sometimes noisy, scratchy vocals (they seem to mistake "airy" for noizy) when you are working with a Spectral Editor like Spaectralayers. Split the vocals into its 3 Components "Tonal, Transient, Noise" The quick way is turning the Level of the "Noise" Channel a bit down, but that works only semi. The better way is to work this Channel with an EQ. You definitely dont need much of the Lover End noise that is just rumbling. And you dont need the Frequencies that are causing the scratchy Sound... It takes a bit of time and practice but you will find out what Bands you need for good sounding vocals and what not.
Works in 90% of the time. Till now I did not see that anyone had this Idea before so: youre Welcome! ;-)
(Please don't ask me any more about this, if you totally dont understand what I m talking about, sorry, i am not a Teacher of your junior High, ok?)
I take it just as it is. Nice description!
I can't do this because these frequencies also stay on the instrumental. Unless I have to make the instrumental somewhere other than SpectraLayers
this is what i needed ty for this , i use fadr/ stems for stems Separation it can separate up 14 instruments and finds key song and chord progression , also u can download them as midi , been using it for 4 months
Thanks for this! But just a few hours ago, audimee put my favourite voice behind a pay wall, which is an absolute bummer, but I'll adjust to others. Thank you again!
That is a bummer. You can always subscribe for a month then cancel after you have created an album. Good luck. Thanks for watching.
Or use Udio which has great vocals out of the gate. You can even generate a song in Suno then just remix it in Udio if you prefer Suno arrangments
Thank you so much. Million thumbs up!
Im surprised that no one has developed an AI driven "repair vocals" service yet. Imagine being able to feed AI vocals into audimee, feed it text lyrics, and the the AI automatically smoothing, filling, and fixing the lyrics, correcting unclear artifacts and replacing it with clear sound with new vocals. I'd gladly pay for that!
I am surprised how many people are producers and songwriters bit no musician anywhere.
I'm sure they will produce the magic button for youv, so you don't have to do anything else than press the button.
Next to the button will be a fader. If you push it up it will generate your social media popularity algorithm ... Or even better fck those buttons and faders. Just put an electrode to your forehead and think about how popular you want to be and you don't even have to make a song!
🤦♂️🤦♂️
@MentalBlue Yes! See? This guy gets it! You're really reading my mind!
@@MentalBlue Yeah man! But wait, thats exactly like DJs who think they're musicians when they're just mixing together other people's creations, tapping on tech stuff and puzzling pre-made sounds... Ok, maybe instrument makers also used to think that way? At least, one has to have a certain musical sense to create new inventions for musical expression; or even a higher one... Certainly both are an art onto themself.. I take back my impulsive agreement, because according to your sarcasm, people with good vocal chords could also be criticised and natural talents who never had to practice to sing grandiosely; according to your logic, one would also have to condemn people who play sports on a console instead of sweating themselves outside - then also people who watch other people on TV; instead of themselves living actively in that moment - this will go on and on - better let's clarify the question of whether and to what extent your desire to be famous prevents you from becoming famous?
@@Leviathan3000-m8b you're completely missing the point
@@MentalBlue oohh ok... you convinced me 🤣🤌
This method has a big disadvantage: The original vocal stem from Suno contains a lot of artifacts and sound material that belong to the instrumental track - if you generate new vocals without these artifacts, they will be missing in the new vocal track, thus in the new mix and you can hear it clearly. The vocals sound better, but the instrumental that is laying under the vocals sounds worse because this sound material is missing. By the way, who needs an online Stem separator when you use Logic as a DAW? You can easily use Logic for extracting stems into 4 tracks ant it works very well.
Studio One Pro 7 has this stem separator too. And Cubase Pro via built-in Spectralayer
bro.. your an absolute legend,
Good stuff... FYI Chord AI link is missing...
Sorry about that, Here you go apps.apple.com/app/id1446177109
Thanks for watching.
Great job man! Thank's a lot!
Great info
Mind blown!
Hi, I would really appreciate if you could please share the "Chord AI" link. I tried searching myself, but couldn't find the one you're using in the video.
sorry, here you go apps.apple.com/app/id1446177109 thanks for watching.
The link is in the description. It looks to be an Apple thing.
@@billkeithchannel Appreciate it... That's really a little nifty thing...
Great video
doing the vocal conversion every now and then I notice that the new singer goes out of tune or croaks during playback, why does this happen?
Sorry for the questions, beginner here. When you used ChordAI to detect the key of the song it said Dm 195bpm. When you imported and mastered it in Logic it said Cmaj 120bpm. My questions are why? Why did logic not detect it the same as ChordAI? The mastered output, was that in Dm or Cmaj? Thanks.
Hello, logic defaults to Cmaj 120 I didn't manually change that as I didn't need to for mastering. Chord al was the correct key. Hope that helps.
Is Suno Accept Own Voice. For Duet Can We Include Both Female & male Vocal on Suno. Also Can We upload Our Composition and Suno Can make the Music Arrange According to Our Music Arrangement & Tune 9Composition).
Hello, yes you can input your own music and it will take it and use it to create a new song.
cool! thx
No problem! Thanks for watching
I don't understand. When I chose a singer to convert, the one on the right didn't sound like original singer with cleaned up vocals. How did you get it to match?
Do the voices generated by suno sound weird or is it my ear playing tricks on me?
What about those terrible instrumental SUNO stems? They have the vocals still present in them. Can the instrumental be cleaned up also?
you can clean it up with RiP.x pro. it breaks the stems down into midi files. hope that helps.
Talk about persona selected option ,in suno
And then introduce V4 released this week :)
Could not find the link for the vocal replacements like you mentioned
Here you go. It was further down in the description. Thanks for watching
audimee.com/?ref=Chrisunlocksai
Link is in the description.
What I think is funny is most of it just sounds like auto tune to me. My friend (who has a few LPs out) has been accused of using AI but she just used auto tune in some parts (high notes) to clean it up.
What version is LogicX you are using ?
The latest version. Thanks for watching.
WOW! Mind Blown. Thanks for sharing this. Tremendous value.
Hello Darlin' !
I don't like the fact that Suno doesn't give an option to save as flac or wav. Vocals sometimes do sound bad and using stems is too involving, time consuming and complicated for most people I would think.
downloading stems in suno gives you wavs. its a bit hit and miss on quality. Aside from the obvious conflict of interest with the sponsorship in the video there are alternatives. The method i've used that works great for me is to take the suno song and import it into udio, and then use udio's stem separation which gives you better separation than suno.
Anyone know how to fix the instruments? And make it more natural?
Chord AI for Mac - Link please 🙂
Here you go. Let me know if this doesn't help.
apps.apple.com/app/id1446177109
Thanks for watching.
@@ChrisUnlocksAI Thanks 👍
@@ChrisUnlocksAI Hi Chris thanks but this link is for an iPad version - you are showing a Mac desktop version and I cannot find where you got that - please help!
I'm still getting mechanical synth sounding vocals. But totally appreciate this process. I'll play with it a bit more and get better results I'm sure.
Link to Chord AI?
Sorry about that. Here you go.
apps.apple.com/app/id1446177109
Thanks for watching.
Adobe Editor
You can separate vocals and instruments with Suno, Stems..
Go ahead and see what they sound like. He's already tried that.
cant even clone vocals perfect using suno
suno Ai also messes with the beat:(
I've not had too many issues with that. Thanks for watching.
ai voice .... use in lyricswindow [denoise] and at voice: [Ai Voice: -3Dba -lovely female voice, -pitched 2 tone up,] then what the voice setting and genre info be as example: [Ai Voice: -Screaming Ai Voice male, -young female voice, -hard riffs, -metalcore, -playing tone A G F C, -hard drops with trancevibe,]
what you need more then suno? nerds are nerds no musicians! 🤓
Suno can separate stems too.
I’d rather use my nutsack as a pincushion.
Suno can _pretend_ to separate stems 😅
I tried but it didn't work out. The voice doesn't sound like it's imbedded into the instruments. As if someone was narrating. No good.
That’s just too much work. I subscribe annually to Suno, but when another AI generator comes along that has better vocal besides Udio I don’t like it, I will not be using Suno anymore I have emailed them numerous times letting them know how crappy the vocals are and I won’t be a repeated annual subscriber if it doesn’t improve. I refuse to do all the things you said here I shouldn’t have to.
I mean u wouldn't be an A.I. bro if you actually enjoyed putting in a bit of effort.
@ turns out in version 4 they actually listened and improved vocals
Wonderful and very useful video
Anyway if you make music in Udio you won't need this
Still I really appreciate this video
Very interesting
The most incredible thing is that with audee me you can also make a personalized voice so you can record your own voice and let it sing
@@adawarenessawarenessDoes it have tools to improve one's own Terrible voice?
Thx fyi , i want better to prod my song ❤
V4 did not help vocals either. :(
I beg to differ. I think it sounds a hell of a lot better. At least on most of my outputs.
@@AI_Expedition I remastered and overall quality improved but the vocals are still shite. Udio just does it better and Suno has the best interface, and features. Marry them, child is born, BOOM, the perfect system.
Suno is Russian roulette 😂
This is possibly the worst thing I've ever heard in my life
im sorry?
Weight RVC Exist people
Stop using Suno and switch to Udio. My page is a testament to how much better it is.