I negotiate a lot for a living, and and the best way that I’ve discovered to do this, is to make the other side feel empowered and encourage them with a feeling of intellectual superiority. I get so much true and raw information this way. I ask their opinion, I bring up that I’m not an expert the way they are, and usually people who keep their cards very guarded, just let the information gush. These interviewers appear to understand this quite well, they give him the floor whenever he speaks, they play a bit submissive, and you can see how they goaded him into feeling more and more empowered each time he spoke. Psychopaths especially like to see themselves control a situation. I grew up with one. It seemed like he felt the more he spoke the more influence he had. Was very smart but assumed too much his superiority, much like this guy.
I baited a psychopath very much like you described. I was at a psychiatric clinic for BPD and I just boosted the guy’s ego and he eventually confessed how he thought people were sheep and that he was a psychopath. He claimed he had BPD too but I doubt that. Very interesting encounter. I remember feeling very scared after our encounter though. It’s almost inhuman how dead calm they are.
so true.. I found this video well before I learned of Jordan Peterson.. But couldn't get myself to watch passed 5 minutes of it. but JP's comments on this made me watch it through.. I learned so much about psychopaths from this video. I finally leveled the playing field with my wife!
@@Raventooth Yes but she was 17 when they met. She was under Paul's influence most of the time. Her parents were so lenient with Paul and Karla's relationship I'm not surprised this was such a manipulated and organized crime between the two of them.
@@starless1444 so this guy's a narcissist among other things?? I'm trying to see if I can apply my newly learned skills from dr. Grande. So right off the bat I'm thinking narcissist right
John Wayne Gacy went out of the way to clarify that he was not gay--he was bisexual. Somehow that was more important than the serial killer title. That complete lack of understanding is so wild.
Seriously, I’ve never seen somebody get caught up in a lie and then get so offended when he’s called a liar. It kind of makes me sick to my stomach because he’s playing the victim because they called him a liar and he’s out raping people. What part of the game is this🤔🤔🤔
@@trinavera2227 I think he's intentionally and jokingly misquoting what he says around 8:30. But it's worth noting here though, that he doesn't actually confess to be a rapist or murderer but rather okay with being called one' by news agencies.
Don't be such a fool, Shawn Lewis. Nobody is sending you, you've got a mind of your own. Instructions aren't an issue, teach yourself how to take your steps with your own feet.
What he’s doing is a narcissistic Tactic. It’s called word salad! He’s focusing on tiny details going on full tangents to disorientate and get off topic : he’s trying to control the conversation at all times.
It's not word salad. Word salad is a completely unintelligible string of words. It is without any sense at all. Paul is making sense and rapidly defending himself with some degree of intelligence. He's just deluded.
The tactic you describe is used by a lot of ppl in all sorts of discussions! Even if you know this tactic and realize someone is using it, it's hard not to fall for it and really force your self to talk about what you wanna talk about and make your point. You have to be really persistent and keep repeating your self over and over again to get the answers on those questions you wanna hear. You might feel stupid doing that and it's not very polite but you have to remind yourself that you are not having a rational open-ended discussion right now and you don't behave in the same as you would having one. The fact Bernardo is using this strategy here might be the reason why I (non native English speaker) hardly understands the conversation actually..
... waits just long enough to see no one's buying it ... proceeds to criticize them for not investigating him the way he thinks they should. " 'he's a crazy liar, why didn't you guys resolve this?!?' ".
@@nunyanunya6398 or maybe, perhaps, this is video covers the subject of psychology and would attract people who are psychologists and/or are interested in psychology? just a thought.
I actually am a phsycologist but it's a subject that many people are passionate about we all have free information on the internet so anyone can learn phsycology on the smart phone
Because, all of Canada is weird on purpose. It is part of an infernal plot to invade and overtake the world by weirdness to enslave the population and force them to do really weird things and make Paul Bernardo look sane and normal.
@@jarlbalgruufthegreater1758 He thinks he's good, but remember, he's not weaseling his way out of jail with his words. The interrogators are smarter than him, thankfully.
I'm looking at this video and I'm seeing a group of law enforcement agents who know precisely how to set this guy up to hang himself. The entire room is designed to give the 'interviewee' a sense of power and self control within the interview. Even the fact that they have him sitting in a comfortable swivel chair shows that they know which props help them better assess his personality type so they can develop lines of questioning that narrows the focus of the interview. Bernardo might have some charisma but it's all being put on display with purpose, and not for his benefit: head of the table, swivel chair, lady is slightly closer to him than her male counterpart on the opposite side of the table, laptops are open further down the table, both hands are visible from both visible interviewers, tone of voice from the interviewers, etc. All of it speaks to a very conscious staging and demonstrates the professionalism and studied approach to suspect interrogation.
Yeah, in the end I think the debate going on in the comments about him being in control or the police tricking him is a false dichotomy. On one side he's clearly acting as the dominant person in the conversation, steering it wherever he wants and being assertive and controlling over others... On the other hand that really doesn't feel like he's actually fooling anyone and these interviewers are arguably letting him do it precisely on the purpose to give him the rope to hang himself.
The number of times he says sarcastically that he's "a crazy psychopathic liar" is absolutely unbelievable, knowing that he is. It's almost like he was showing off for himself, dangling the truth out in the open by acting as if it's absurd.
It's a form of projection. They are so disassociated from themselves that they often will do things like that. It's a very effective technique historically--but we all have studied these pathologies by now. These people aren't clever or hard to find anymore.
it's exhausting to watch him endlessly fixate on driving the point home that he's not a liar when no one in the room is accusing him of that or has any control over what was said about him outside the room. nauseating really
I came here after hearing Dr. Jordan Peterson talk about this guy. Dr. Peterson said: "Look at the interview without sound, and he looks like the CEO of a Fortune 500 company giving his employees hell for doing something wrong." He's not wrong, at all! He's wrapping the cops around his little finger.
@@sorayawhetung8661 it's probably not as deep as that. Don't get me wrong it could be, I don't claim to be a professional but I figured they just wanted him directly in the line of the camera. Usually the technique for getting information from a subject is to make them feel vulnerable like in interrogation videos they'll place them in the corner, a couple detectives surrounding them, small room to invoke a sense vulnerability and fear that way they tell the detectives what they want to hear in order to get it over with and leave. But they very well could be attempting something else here. It's a good observation considering we don't usually see such a set up in most videos. Edit: by the way I apologize if it feels like I'm preaching to the choir, I'm sure you know just as much as I do if not more. The comment section of this genre serves as a great place for discourse amongst like minded people. I'm sure most of us down here are well equipped for the most part.
@Chin Brumback errr, prior to 'this" (if you mean this interview in the video done in 2007) he had already been in jail for 12 YEARS. Since he was designated a dangerous offender, he will never be released. Not quite sure why people on here don't understand HE IS ALREADY in jail! lol -- they even say they are at Kingston Pen at the beginning of the interview. Guess that's what happens when one listens to too much JP!
I mean he completely fell for it they didn’t give af about his shittalk. Just keep him talking he completely fell for them. Being very nervous using aaaaa lot of fill words nervously using his hands and then completely stopping to use them. He seems very uncalm all the time talking very fast compared to everybody else.
I paraphrase: "Poor me. I'm a human being. That was a long time ago. Don't say those things about me now." Show a little sincere remorse, and maybe I might see a shred of humanity in you.
Dude is manipulation expert ... he doesn't realize that his own intelligence is giving him away, arguing a case instead answering questions with simple answers.
You are absolutely rite, this video is used in psychology classes to help identify psychopathic tendencies, and how they can overtake an interrogation .
@MrBrucelee117 Jordan never said that Bernardo was a expert, whatever it is that he is trying to do you just know that he is doing this since the day he learned to talk. Bernardo just talks way to much thats also why is he a good case to study.
Passing a polygraph test is easy. There is a whole book on it that uses various tricks the CIA/FBI identifies that can be used. A Buddhist monk could pass a polygraph by simply meditating.
The police know and at 17.02 the lady is posturing " he is going around in circles". They are letting him speak and hopefully trip and reveal, thats why you seat him at the head of the table, so he feels in control
verguchis puchis it’s been a known psychological fact for quite some time now that psychopaths are first and foremost survivors. It’s idiotic to try and get someone who’s brain is programmed better than anyone else’s for self preservation, to compromise their self preservation. So in conclusion: no u.
Randy Rogers Yea suure so those facts determine that no psychopaths could ever make any mistakes or lose control about their situation when theyre lying? LOL try again, humans can always stray be irrational and make mistakes, especially under stress.. no matter how much of a psychopathic and intelligent they are my little pseudo-psychologist ;)
@@Dodo-ym8cc Yea i wouldn't say there all over analyzing..theres no way this is just a normal conversation but i have to agree i think the original comment is right lol
you all guys sayiing that its creepy that he is calm. but dont you wonder what the explanation of his calmness is? the life he has to go through and see, that compared to that, interogation seems like no big deal? you go through that life and see how sane you come out on the other side, if you come out at all. no one is a psychopath from birth, they are a result of unimaginable abuse and torture
L L no they’re not. A truly self developed human being decides when he acts like like a respectful guy and when to be manipulative depending on the situation. On the point of hiring psychopaths, its been proven time and rime again that putting PP’s in positions of power is good once, but let them stay in a power position gor many many times and theyll take over the whole place as if it belongs to them in a certain way.
Genuinely one of the best options but you shouldnt let a physcopath in the position for too long. We arent all bad though a large amount of the population wont do much to others despite it being "fun". most of us just go about like anyone else
I'm 15 minutes in and the convict still hasn't answered a question. The interviewer however, has done his best to answer every question thrown his way 😃
Idiots. The cops don't care about the conversation, being on top, being fair, or "winning." They'll play along and look dumb and let him get comfortable and smug, whatever. All they care about is that he makes one slip-up they can use to nail him.
Kube is right, detectives have time on their side and typically the more the suspect says the worse for the suspect. However, it is true that whoever is asking questions and getting questions answered is in control.
MrSquishyCookie He mentioned in the beginning that legally he can decide not to talk. The interviewer will ofcourse answer questions, that's his job. Try not to romanticize psycopathy too much
Fantastic demonstration by Paul who has highlighted his narcissistic/ psychopathic behaviour during the interview. He is not a liar and made a few mistakes in the past apparently.
No, it’s about creating doubt. You mention what the other person did wrong (doesn’t matter if it is just if you can convince them they did) and the ride the moral Trojan house until they cave. Works great on average people, not on cops. Psychopaths now tricks, but they are not exactly smarter. But try telling them that.
I suspect he's also lying to himself, he probably thinks he's a good person day to day, and he can't stand others not thinking that, if he admits the truth he'll be admitting to himself he's lying to himself. Which will hurt him. If he was interested in the truth for himself he would have stopped after his first major crime. Because the only way people go straight after such crimes is to be honest with themselves. And then from there they learn to coexist in society before been let out of jail. Then we all cross our fingers the rehabilitation program worked and they don't kill again.
This is a classic example of "circle talk". Manipulators use this tactic to try and control the direction of discussions. Doing a lot of talking and not really saying anything. This guy is a piece of work. He keeps saying "I'm a human being...", but that is debatable. Glad he was finally caught. Peace.
It's called word salad. It's used as a defense mechanism with psychopaths. Deflection of the shame that comes with blame. Blame is the siamese twin of shame and shame is what drives a psychopath or a dark triad person to collapse. DARVO Deny Attack Reverse Victim Offense
Someone needs to take control of the conversation back and put that sociopath in his place...not be super polite and let him manipulate the conversation
He's like Johnny Ringo He's accepted the fact that he's a bad guy therefore he identifies with that label of good people versus bad people but to a criminal things are always reversed The cops are the bad people you know what I mean...
Imo they wegrent doing it deliberatly. It seemed as if the dude in the white shirt allowed them to behave like that, and made them feel guilty for making him be there.
Anto Sharboonian Yhea there was some insane Intellectual battle going on under the surface. The police let him do his “thing” to get info out of him. And he knew that and acted like he dint to steer the conversation.
@@antosharboonian6110 They were doing it on purpose. They are interrogators and trained. They understand he is narcissistic and wants to control the conversation so they feed into it to get more information out of him. They play into his weakness. They are being submissive on purpose. If they were like him he wouldn’t have talked like he was or said much.
His whole dismissive attitude reminds me of Jesse Eisenberg's acting during the two interviews in the Social Network. In one of the scenes he kept looking out the window and he told the lawyer that he didn't deserve his full attention xS
Jimmy Carton 1. It was not the entire white population, it was a minority of white people. Also, NOT ONE of those people are alive today. 2. I am Native American. I also live in the US, if the US falls, so do all of us, which is a stupid comment to begin with.
Yesterday in LinkedIn someone said the politicians are human (regarding the finish mp in a party while the country suffers recession ) , I watching this video and reading your comment I realise the politicians have narcissistic and psychopath traits. They lack of empathy which is what make us human, therefore they are not.
The cop asks him if he killed someone on a specific date and the guy says “well, that’s a loaded question”. No, for real, that is a simple yes or no question.
What strikes me immediately about this guy, is the way in which he attempts to gain dominance in the room. When asked a direct question about his whereabouts, he responds with lengthy, convoluted criticisms of the investigation itself, which when coupled with his body language, would almost suggest that he is in charge of the investigation, rather than being a suspect or a witness. I agree with the previous commenter who noted how the room was most likely set up to give him a false sense of security. I.e. rather than backing him into the corner of a tiny room and interrogating him, they gave him breathing space and a sense of control, so that his ego would get the better of him, and he would eventually talk himself into a corner.
Give them enough time to talk and they can’t help but brag. I think it’s because they feel comfortable in the space, are comfortable that the person (or people) with them aren’t a threat, and that they believe they have control.
I spent 10 years as a military policeman in the Marine Corps and Army and I’m an OEF disabled veteran. I also have a bachelors degree in criminal justice with a minor in psychology. The worst thing you can neglect catching any criminal is thinking someone doesn’t look the part of a criminal. Evil doesn’t always look like a homeless person. Most of the time, attractive people get away with these things longer because they are used to people treating them better than a homely looking person. Your eyes are the biggest betrayers of your mind. Always look deeper when seeking the truth. If you doubt my words, think about how you act towards attractive people versus unattractive people. You treat them better right? Why? Because they don’t appear to be a threat. People always without fail, look at the butt ugliest people to pin crimes on. It’s the biggest fault of mankind. Take a look at the biggest most prolific serial killers, most of them would be considered attractive.
Why would your example of looking like evil be a homeless person for fux sake? Most of those people aren't bad people. You should have used the example of politician, police officer, or celebrity. All, way more evil than your average homeless dude. Get a grip.
If the police and media stopped describing certain types of criminals as "monsters" perhaps some people would "see" them more clearly. But we like the word monster because it gives us (as false) sense of security in thinking that they can't possibly be (or look) just like us..... My father was a "monster" but nobody ever looked past his piercing blue eyes, charming chat and smart suit. Luckily the f#cker's dead now so the world's a better place 🙃
2 years later, but I think his point in that is that human are flawed and disgusting creatures by nature. Humans are responsible for every single crime possible, but to say he is dissociated is an insult to him as an intellectual person.
@@jasonebat1074 people do commit evil acts. However, some animals committ what we see as crimes against each other when we view their actions through the lens of human morality. Sea otters will sexually assault baby seals. Male gorillas and lions will kill the babies of the tribes and the prices they take over because they don't want to raise the young of another male. This will drive the females back into estrus so the new heads of the tribe and pride can impregnate them. Penguins will steal rocks from other penguins.
I think for us to truly progress we must recognize our potential for psychopathy on an individual level. Everyone has a dark side and if we don’t learn how to properly integrate it we will continue to be victims and prey for predators
They are playing this guy. I’m a parole officer, and we deal with this all the time. He presents very similarly to what you would see with an habitual domestic violence offender, for example. He is caught in attempting to perpetuate a power/control dynamic in which he doesn’t actually have any power, but doesn’t know any other way to shift the dynamic in his favor. The method is be polite, be professional, even a little insecure in the information you have, this will fire him up and cause him to try to beat you down with his intelligence and self-assuredness, in doing so he will throw himself under the bus with his testimony and reveal way more than his attorney would like. He’s not brilliant, he’s not even that smart actually. He’s just another thug.
Yeah, I can't believe anyone thinks he's doing anything other than burying himself. Cops are amazing at interrogation techniques, and they know this guy will spill his guts if they allow him to. It's like watching a scrub walk into the ring with Joe Fraizer.
Typical response from someone in law enforcement. Always pretending to be on top no matter what, you just can't admit that you lose battles sometimes. Pretentious, artificial confidence that is bred into you through your training. Loser.
Sword Artist not really. Cops are really good at one thing: interrogation. They do it more than I'll ever do it in my life. They also have theory on how to use it. So in essence they are highly trained for these engagements. The psycho is out of his depth here. Talking is always a liability unless you have a water tight story.
Randall Ball and Sword Artist: You’ve both got a point. Obviously this guy achieved his objective of killing people. And the rub in law enforcement is that nothing we could’ve done would have stopped it. So in that sense he “wins.” It’s hard to find a killer. It’s not difficult to interview him effectively. All I’m saying is that it’s easy to see this guy out of context as “in control of the interview,” and that’s just not what’s actually going on here.
@@ThebirdsandThebees6000 What are you trying to say? That I’m going off the rails on a crazy train lol Actually I’m firmly planted ON the rails, I’m just not a self-important narcissist lol
@@richiesaesthetics5115 checks & balances, consistent overindulgences in one’s own ego & ideological beliefs tends to be resistant to differing beliefs & change & it is deadly because it creates tyrants who (attempts to) convinces & conforms others to their own cynical ideas, just ask Hitler
Its interesting to see him picking a small proportion of a statement (completely avoiding to answer a question) and try to grow a full conversation about it. He said the word 'liar' about 100 times and said that the police are lying that he is lying, while that wasn't even what the interview was about. He also makes these facial expressions towards the man on the right when saying something and after hes done talking, his face just goes blank. Lastly, he keeps on trying to backfire with a question of his own wich I find very creepy. So at all times hes trying to control the conversation and I absolutely think hes a psychopath.
The police officer tells him that there are consequences to Paul's lying. This guy is in Prison for the rest of his life, so what would he care about there being consequences to his lying?
Clapton Orient Fanz He’s enjoying the game of superiority! He has taken up the role of investigator saying ‘I can do your job better than you can..” as his chosen method of exonerating himself. Most of them like to do this, take the seat of the therapist or investigator etc. Not interesting at all; boring and repetitive!
The most contemptible sin, is the one you haven't done. (that doesn't work in his case, but we all look down on others issues, but have lenience, compassion for those who "made mistakes" and did the thing we did)
Us normal people don't stand a chance to make it with people like this. My ex of 8 years has to be a psychopath/sociopath. Bringing up things he did always ended like this and making me more confused feeling like i was going crazy. Thank God I'm out now.
Good for you, I grew up with a parent that has a lot of toxic traits. It’s really hard you know, just being able to tell took me pretty much 20 years. Btw I think that kind of person tries to confuse you, so you’re kept occupied trying to figure it out, instead of paying attention to the way they slight you. That’s my theory.
This is absolutely chilling to watch. Imagine being these investigators having to sit in this room with this absolute psychopath, and having to remain calm and suppress probably every urge in your body to just kill him right there. Then he’s asked whether he killed Elizabeth Bain and his response is, “that’s a loaded question”. Isn’t that the easiest question in the world to answer, if you didn’t do it? You’d think he would remember killing her. Then he actually has to be reminded of dates when raped women, because he did it so often that he actually lost count. I left watching this interview absolutely convinced that he killed Elizabeth Bain too.
Well, it is a loaded question. You don't answer that question, even if you're innocent, without a lawyer...or shouldn't. Innocent people go to prison. You say you didn't, they say you did. You explain...what you say can be used against you...sometimes what you say can make you look guilty, so that's why you never talk to the police without a lawyer when asked if you killed a person, especially if there is a lot of circumstantial evidence against you. It can be loaded for an innocent person. Of course, he did it...just saying when you answer that question, you had better have your ducks in a row to prove it. Sometimes the police prove something false is true...usually in good faith, but what does it matter if the detectives that interrogated you were good, honest cops and the prosecutor genuinely thought you did it if you are on say...death row. I wouldn't answer it without a lawyer.
There is something to be said about the way he interrupted the female Constable every time she said something. This is a tactic to keep her as uninvolved as possible. He feels like he stays in control of the situation by dominating the room anytime she wants to move the conversation in a specific direction. She does a wonderful job of letting him feel like he is in control.
It seems what he's saying is that they already consider him to be a liar, so he's questioning them as to why they bother bringing him in to be questioned if they think he's going to lie to them. They know he's not going to admit to anything, so what's the point. He's got no respect for their procedure.
Yeah that's actually brutal. Humans can't survive without socialization for shit. It's like half a miracle he didn't die or break down somehow. He deserved it though. Solitary confinement is a fate worse than death easily. This is a matter of biology.
Love how the holds his hands up like he’s innocent. Sits slouched back like he’s comfortable with his actions. ‘Did you kill her?’ That’s a loaded question. Geez, this guys cares nothing about anyone but himself-which I suppose is why JP sent me here to show me a real live narcissist.
You know it’s cute, they intentionally gave him the impression of control. It’s a common interrogating technique, and for a very good reason. Obviously it depends on the situation and the individual, but boy this was obviously the correct approach.
can you not see whats going on here? They are making him feel important.. hence why they are doing the interview in a boardroom setting, having him sit on a swivel chair at the end of the table The reason is to make him show his true controlling colours and to talk which he is falling for hook line and SINKER
This is a prime example of two Officers doing their job and not letting their position of authority get in the way of solving the case and putting a criminal away for life. Good Job!!!
@@lilenigma6544 talk to the police as much as possible will get an innocent jail for a lifetime Paul's knows that and he can't stop talk because the cops did a good job
He sounds just like every boss I have ever worked for. Nothing is his fault . Could it be that you only ever became the boss if you are a psychopath could it be that the world has been run by people like this since the start of time. It might explain human history.
@@falconeri4047 I have never felt threatened. The Boss I have right now said " if you want to get militant, I can make your life miserable" I replied " No you can't, if I don't like working here I'll leave. I know where the door is". So I'm never threatened. I'm a HGV driver loads of jobs. It's just an observation. I exaggerated a bit just to make a point. But I do think mankind has been run by the wrong type of people and still is. But no need for a physiotherapist just yet 😆
Bernardo's lawyer hid the horrific videos that the killers made which showed her active participation in the murders and rapes, only submitted after the plea deal.
He started out sounding marginally believable. However, when he starts deflecting blame and not answering / dodging key questions, you know something is up.
This is EXACTLY the behavior going on in the WH and Congress right now. This is classic behavior of our government. This points to the majority of our leaders suffering from personality disorders and mental illness and hoping the public doesn’t notice or are too dumb to put the pieces together.
they can always remember in great detail when it's something that favors them,but don't recall when it may be incriminating..politicians do the same thing!
Hillary testified under oath. However, there is this one orange man that suffers from Bone Spurs and his goons that plead the fifth and resort to conspiracy theories to confuse and manipulate the sheep.
He's gross man, look at his record: May 4, 1987: Rape of a 21-year-old Scarborough woman in front of her parents' house, after Bernardo followed her home. May 14, 1987: Rape of a 19-year-old woman in the backyard of her parents' house. July 17, 1987: Attempted rape of a young woman. Although he beat the victim, he abandoned the attack when she fought back. September 29, 1987: Attempted rape of a 15-year-old girl. Bernardo broke into a house in Scarborough and entered the victim's bedroom. He jumped on her back, put his hand over her mouth, threatened her with a knife, bruised the side of her face and bit her ear. Bernardo fled when the victim's mother entered the room and screamed. 19 years old at the time of the crime, Anthony Hanemaayer was convicted of the sexual assault in 1989 and served a sixteen-month prison sentence, but was exonerated after Bernardo admitted the crime in 2006.[9] December 16, 1987: Rape of a 15-year-old girl. The next day Metropolitan Toronto Police issued a warning to women in Scarborough travelling alone at night, especially those riding buses. December 23, 1987: Rape of a 17-year-old girl with a knife he used to threaten his victims. At this point, he began to be known as the Scarborough Rapist. April 18, 1988: Bernardo attacked a 17-year-old girl. May 25, 1988: Bernardo was nearly caught by a uniformed Metro Toronto investigator staking out a bus shelter. Although the investigator noticed Bernardo hiding under a tree and pursued him on foot, he escaped. May 30, 1988: Rape of an 18-year-old woman in Mississauga, Ontario, about 40 kilometres (25 mi) southwest of Scarborough. October 4, 1988: Attempted rape in Scarborough. Although his intended victim fought him off, he inflicted two stab wounds to her thigh and buttock which required 12 stitches. November 16, 1988: Rape of an 18-year-old woman in the backyard of her parents' house November 17, 1988: Metro Police formed a task force to capture the Scarborough Rapist. December 27, 1988: Attempted rape, with a neighbour chasing Bernardo off. June 20, 1989: Attempted rape; the young woman fought, and her screams alerted neighbours. Bernardo fled with scratches on his face. August 15, 1989: Rape of a 22-year-old woman. Bernardo stalked her the previous night outside the window of her apartment, and waited for her to arrive home. November 21, 1989: Rape of a 15-year-old girl Bernardo saw in a bus shelter. December 22, 1989: Rape of a 19-year-old woman. May 26, 1990: Rape of a 19-year-old woman. His victim's vivid recollection of her attacker enabled police to create a computer composite portrait, which was released two days later by police and published in Toronto and area newspapers. July 1990: Two months after police received tips that Bernardo fit the Scarborough Rapist composite, he was interviewed by two police detectives.
@@Chrisiamtheluciddream because the death penalty doesnt exist in canada unlike the expensive and time wasting savagery that the yanks call the "Death penalty"
officers handled it very well - acting as though they agreed with his stories and remained calm with smiles upon their faces. because of this, Paul kept talking and dug a bigger hole for himself.
He’s smart: don’t give them any more information than they already have. And at the same time he wants to appear, emphasis on appear, like he’s co-operating.
But what's the point? Will this interview in any way manage to get him a legal concession or sympathy from a jury? The interrogator purposely reminded him that his testimony was voluntary. Even if the police lied, as he claims, or was unfair it doesn't matter since THEY ARE NOT IN TROUBLE. His ego got the better of him. This is how to trap a psychopath: Give them an opportunity to show off their smarts and let them hang themselves.
Nah they think are smart, but in reality it's easy to do what he does. The difference is that normal people realize when they are caught and accept their guilt like men, guys like this will keep struggling with worms even though nobody is falling for any of their tricks at all.
Whether narcissists or psychopaths, they both struggle with guilt because they are motivated by ego to trick others for the heck of it. That makes them, ironically, also manipulable provided one knows what buttons to push.
I negotiate a lot for a living, and and the best way that I’ve discovered to do this, is to make the other side feel empowered and encourage them with a feeling of intellectual superiority. I get so much true and raw information this way. I ask their opinion, I bring up that I’m not an expert the way they are, and usually people who keep their cards very guarded, just let the information gush. These interviewers appear to understand this quite well, they give him the floor whenever he speaks, they play a bit submissive, and you can see how they goaded him into feeling more and more empowered each time he spoke. Psychopaths especially like to see themselves control a situation. I grew up with one. It seemed like he felt the more he spoke the more influence he had. Was very smart but assumed too much his superiority, much like this guy.
excellent explanation
I baited a psychopath very much like you described. I was at a psychiatric clinic for BPD and I just boosted the guy’s ego and he eventually confessed how he thought people were sheep and that he was a psychopath. He claimed he had BPD too but I doubt that. Very interesting encounter. I remember feeling very scared after our encounter though. It’s almost inhuman how dead calm they are.
mjccmc82 yes
Sitting him at head of the table was a nice touch
@@Steve-cc6xc getting a murder confession and setting up or structuring "deals" aka payment / buying options is total different .. ego much ¿
Views:
5% - Interested in Paul Bernardo
95% - Came from from Jordan Peterson
so true.. I found this video well before I learned of Jordan Peterson.. But couldn't get myself to watch passed 5 minutes of it. but JP's comments on this made me watch it through.. I learned so much about psychopaths from this video. I finally leveled the playing field with my wife!
+turbulus What the hell kind of relationship do you have with your wife?
women are always testing men.. some more than others
Came from from Jordan Peterson because I was interested in Paul Bernardo. But you already used 100% what category am I in?
Simple. You don't exist.
His narcissism has narcissism.
I like the “enough manipulation” line
Crazy how Karla was even more of a narcissist.
@@Raventooth Yes but she was 17 when they met. She was under Paul's influence most of the time. Her parents were so lenient with Paul and Karla's relationship I'm not surprised this was such a manipulated and organized crime between the two of them.
@@starless1444 so this guy's a narcissist among other things?? I'm trying to see if I can apply my newly learned skills from dr. Grande. So right off the bat I'm thinking narcissist right
OneMeanArtist His narcissism has narcissism... Never have there been truer words spoken
I wish there was a close up of his face so his microexpressions could be seen.
That’s what I’m saying
you can sometimes see him curl his lips like at 2:31 which is a sign of being secretive, but yeah same
5:34 he picked his nose which is a sign of him lying
@@AntonioLopez-bz8df Can be a sign, but not necessarily.
@@AntonioLopez-bz8df U got jokes huh,
"if you say I'm a killer and a sex offender it's fine you know, but to say that I'm a crazy person, now that's crossing the line"
Makes perfect sense
Oh shit man, thats so funny, id rather be a liar though but i guess that makes me normal
@@GuyI9000 Wut
Right he talks so much and so fast and looks like everything he says is absolutely right that it almost slips right through
Followed by "I didnt do anything wrong"
John Wayne Gacy went out of the way to clarify that he was not gay--he was bisexual. Somehow that was more important than the serial killer title. That complete lack of understanding is so wild.
Anybody else come here because of Jordan Peterson?
✋
Hubby Bubby C'mon give me another chance.
I'm guilty
Yup 😁
#metoo lol
His feelings are hurt because the police called him a liar. It’s a big deal to him.
Seriously, I’ve never seen somebody get caught up in a lie and then get so offended when he’s called a liar. It kind of makes me sick to my stomach because he’s playing the victim because they called him a liar and he’s out raping people. What part of the game is this🤔🤔🤔
Poor murderer/rapist, how could they not know he's sensitive about these things it hurts his brand
It's amazing how people don't understand that he's trying to turn this around on the cops.
Detective: "Did you kill this person?"
Psychopath: "Well... "
@@chrisphillip253 every liar does. Same applies to the robber.
After the interview the Police was sent to prison for calling Paul a liar.
Justice served and everyone lived happily ever after.
Lol good one! Bevan bumbled the case.
They’ve even filed an official apology for Paul.
They had no reasons to believe he lied
Wait really?
"I may be a rapist and murderer, but I am not a liar! I have my scruples!"- Paul Bernardo
Which minute does he say that
@@trinavera2227 I think he's intentionally and jokingly misquoting what he says around 8:30. But it's worth noting here though, that he doesn't actually confess to be a rapist or murderer but rather okay with being called one' by news agencies.
@@madyconn oh okay thank you , I see what he’s saying
I noticed he never dismiss himself as the rapist he kept attempting deflecting and manipulative tactics on the detectives SMH
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Jordan Peterson sent me here....not sure what to do now...I'll await instructions
Hahahahaha oh wow
Me too
Clean your damn room!!
You can clean your room
🤣
Don't be such a fool, Shawn Lewis. Nobody is sending you, you've got a mind of your own.
Instructions aren't an issue, teach yourself how to take your steps with your own feet.
What he’s doing is a narcissistic Tactic. It’s called word salad! He’s focusing on tiny details going on full tangents to disorientate and get off topic : he’s trying to control the conversation at all times.
a la Jodi Arias
So reminds of when reporters interview Pence, Conway and many other republicans. Go on and on and never answer the question they are asked.
Spot on. He reminds me of my ex
It's not word salad. Word salad is a completely unintelligible string of words. It is without any sense at all. Paul is making sense and rapidly defending himself with some degree of intelligence. He's just deluded.
The tactic you describe is used by a lot of ppl in all sorts of discussions!
Even if you know this tactic and realize someone is using it, it's hard not to fall for it and really force your self to talk about what you wanna talk about and make your point.
You have to be really persistent and keep repeating your self over and over again to get the answers on those questions you wanna hear.
You might feel stupid doing that and it's not very polite but you have to remind yourself that you are not having a rational open-ended discussion right now and you don't behave in the same as you would having one.
The fact Bernardo is using this strategy here might be the reason why I (non native English speaker) hardly understands the conversation actually..
"They say I'm this crazy violent psychopath, and that I lie to police" … *Complete silence while everyone stares at him*
... waits just long enough to see no one's buying it ... proceeds to criticize them for not investigating him the way he thinks they should. " 'he's a crazy liar, why didn't you guys resolve this?!?' ".
Lmao 🤣😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Lee Wright
😂🤣😂🤣😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I like how everyone here is an expert psychologist.
I don't like it...cringey
Also..this ..everybody is narcissist fad online....is gettin old..
@@nunyanunya6398 or maybe, perhaps, this is video covers the subject of psychology and would attract people who are psychologists and/or are interested in psychology? just a thought.
You know you're bat-shit crazy when you come here thinking everyone thinks they're an expert psychologist...
I’m not
I actually am a phsycologist but it's a subject that many people are passionate about we all have free information on the internet so anyone can learn phsycology on the smart phone
Teacher: ‘Did you even do the homework’
Me: ‘Well thats a loaded question’
Nice😆
15:58
Pastor: do you wanna marry her?
Me: Well, that's a loaded Question. 🙊
Don't you wanna know why I wouldn't have done it?
@@matthewmorey7035 he failed that part of the interrogation in my opinion. The correct and only answer should have been a simple classic "no"
What a weird shaped room.
Because, all of Canada is weird on purpose. It is part of an infernal plot to invade and overtake the world by weirdness to enslave the population and force them to do really weird things and make Paul Bernardo look sane and normal.
It's Canada.
ucgrad it looks like a quonset hut.
The interview was done in a modern canadian igloo
Looks like a world war 2/ vietnam era FOB barracks
"I know I'm giving you a hard time, and I know I could just give you a straight answer, but I won't do that and it's all your fault and here's why"
Hes pretty good
@@jarlbalgruufthegreater1758 He thinks he's good, but remember, he's not weaseling his way out of jail with his words. The interrogators are smarter than him, thankfully.
I'm looking at this video and I'm seeing a group of law enforcement agents who know precisely how to set this guy up to hang himself. The entire room is designed to give the 'interviewee' a sense of power and self control within the interview. Even the fact that they have him sitting in a comfortable swivel chair shows that they know which props help them better assess his personality type so they can develop lines of questioning that narrows the focus of the interview.
Bernardo might have some charisma but it's all being put on display with purpose, and not for his benefit: head of the table, swivel chair, lady is slightly closer to him than her male counterpart on the opposite side of the table, laptops are open further down the table, both hands are visible from both visible interviewers, tone of voice from the interviewers, etc. All of it speaks to a very conscious staging and demonstrates the professionalism and studied approach to suspect interrogation.
Finally someone else who sees this.
vryc interesting
or maybe its just so the camera can see him clearly lol wtf
smackingboats no.
Yeah, in the end I think the debate going on in the comments about him being in control or the police tricking him is a false dichotomy.
On one side he's clearly acting as the dominant person in the conversation, steering it wherever he wants and being assertive and controlling over others...
On the other hand that really doesn't feel like he's actually fooling anyone and these interviewers are arguably letting him do it precisely on the purpose to give him the rope to hang himself.
The number of times he says sarcastically that he's "a crazy psychopathic liar" is absolutely unbelievable, knowing that he is. It's almost like he was showing off for himself, dangling the truth out in the open by acting as if it's absurd.
It's a form of projection. They are so disassociated from themselves that they often will do things like that. It's a very effective technique historically--but we all have studied these pathologies by now. These people aren't clever or hard to find anymore.
Randall Ball psychopath = murderer? Since when?
+g0tst1ngs Since this video is what we're talking about.
For him it's just a word.
it's exhausting to watch him endlessly fixate on driving the point home that he's not a liar when no one in the room is accusing him of that or has any control over what was said about him outside the room. nauseating really
I came here after hearing Dr. Jordan Peterson talk about this guy. Dr. Peterson said:
"Look at the interview without sound, and he looks like the CEO of a Fortune 500 company giving his employees hell for doing something wrong."
He's not wrong, at all! He's wrapping the cops around his little finger.
Lorenzo Benito me too
As am I!
Same.
Yeah, but he's still going to prison for a very long time so apparently, it wasn't tight.
me too! haha!
They put him at the head of the table. A good move for someone who wants to be in control and have power.
yeah i was confused about that at first but then i realized why they did that
@@sorayawhetung8661 it's probably not as deep as that. Don't get me wrong it could be, I don't claim to be a professional but I figured they just wanted him directly in the line of the camera. Usually the technique for getting information from a subject is to make them feel vulnerable like in interrogation videos they'll place them in the corner, a couple detectives surrounding them, small room to invoke a sense vulnerability and fear that way they tell the detectives what they want to hear in order to get it over with and leave. But they very well could be attempting something else here. It's a good observation considering we don't usually see such a set up in most videos.
Edit: by the way I apologize if it feels like I'm preaching to the choir, I'm sure you know just as much as I do if not more. The comment section of this genre serves as a great place for discourse amongst like minded people. I'm sure most of us down here are well equipped for the most part.
@@SpitFactsAndThenDontReply I notice your name is spit facts and then don't reply,- what facts are you spitting?
@@rosiemackenzie5976he won’t reply gang
Look at his body language, his movement. His verbal skill. He's interviewing them.
Not sure what it says about me but he seems like a total bullshit artist to me.
No, he thinks he is. That’s the beauty of great interrogations.
I truly think he does have some pull over them.
@Chin Brumback errr, prior to 'this" (if you mean this interview in the video done in 2007) he had already been in jail for 12 YEARS. Since he was designated a dangerous offender, he will never be released. Not quite sure why people on here don't understand HE IS ALREADY in jail! lol -- they even say they are at Kingston Pen at the beginning of the interview. Guess that's what happens when one listens to too much JP!
I mean he completely fell for it they didn’t give af about his shittalk. Just keep him talking he completely fell for them. Being very nervous using aaaaa lot of fill words nervously using his hands and then completely stopping to use them. He seems very uncalm all the time talking very fast compared to everybody else.
I love how as soon as anyone here hits the comment section they're suddenly a credible psychologist.
I *AM* tho - ive watched at least four jordan peterson videos
People have their own thoughts and opinion on something god forbid.
First time on RUclips, I see.
Max Shriver Ahahaha I also watch rick and morty and have an IQ of at least 1000 maybe even more I can basically read mind's
I think he's trying to avoid a lawsuit
Someone should go out and tell the lawn mower guy to STOP IT!!!
Yeah especially during a interview like wtf
Im sitting outside and i thought my neighbors were mowing the lawn 😂💀
Could be landscapers just doing their job
it's the video cassette inside the camcorder.
I didn’t hear it until I read your comment 😭
My deep respect for the officers sitting there with bleeding ears......... this man is sitting here because of murder and is talking about lying.....
I honestly don't know how they could stand to be in the same room as him! You can smell the crazy on him all the way over here😱
When you like to be the bad guy in RPG video games but you have your charisma maxed.
Blyatiful
かつしんりゅう人づて whats being exagerated?
Seriously perfect.
Thats what psychopaths DO
I paraphrase: "Poor me. I'm a human being. That was a long time ago. Don't say those things about me now." Show a little sincere remorse, and maybe I might see a shred of humanity in you.
Dude is manipulation expert ... he doesn't realize that his own intelligence is giving him away, arguing a case instead answering questions with simple answers.
Meaning he's not too expert
You are absolutely rite, this video is used in psychology classes to help identify psychopathic tendencies, and how they can overtake an interrogation .
@George Strait no empathy ≠ no emotions.
@MrBrucelee117 Jordan never said that Bernardo was a expert, whatever it is that he is trying to do you just know that he is doing this since the day he learned to talk. Bernardo just talks way to much thats also why is he a good case to study.
MrBrucelee117 Peterson was using Bernardo as an example of a psychopath.
He reminds me of someone I know and it fucks me up.
Thank god I am no longer in contact with this guy.
Reminds me of someone i know.....same.
Me too. I dated a guy with his mannerisms, and he even closely resembles my ex's physical description. Ahhhhhhhhh
Wow this poor man. It must be so hard that he had been called a liar. He has really suffered so much.
bruh...
@@baldoggie it was a jokr
Exactly!! The fact that he’s constantly worrying about getting called a lair rather than address the charges against him 🤦🏽♀️
Narcissist psychopaths are insecure and cowardly AF. But at the same time have huge egos. Really mixed up ppl.
@@DaughterOfTheKing_ This interview is made 17 years after he was convicted. He has no reason to address the charges.
This is like watching Tom Cruise practice lines for a role.
Or talk about scientology
But it’s not acting it’s being
@Edie Skyla Middleton tom cruise is ADHD
😳😄👏
😂😂 I’ve been thinking that this entire time without realizing it
Who's here because of Jordan Peterson?
Erma Gersh I. Developing my inner psychopath.
Erma Gerd!!! Aye
Aye!
Jinkdrrk Maybe the 225 people who liked the post? You commented, so you should care.
Jinkdrrk Wow you really DO care!
Question: "Did you kill Elizabeth Bane?"
Answer: "That's a loaded question."
😂😂
Nothing gets past this guy does it! Lol!
So he used a gun!!!!
*Bain
Yeah..that's a bit much..
"Mistakes were made." LOL
Psychopaths can pass polygraphs with ease as they don’t bring conscience into the mix. It is an amazing thing to behold.
Comandante Russel Willians,,outra perola canadense ,,tambem sabe se fingir
WHAT? 😮
Passing a polygraph test is easy. There is a whole book on it that uses various tricks the CIA/FBI identifies that can be used.
A Buddhist monk could pass a polygraph by simply meditating.
Makes sense since it's based on your heart rate. Interesting
The police know and at 17.02 the lady is posturing " he is going around in circles". They are letting him speak and hopefully trip and reveal, thats why you seat him at the head of the table, so he feels in control
Safar De Bon Wishful thinking.
the lady isn't with the police, shes prob his layer lol... That's why shes not talking.. if she was with the cop, she would ask questions too
*sigh* IDIOT. You can’t get a psychopath to shoot themselves in the foot, their brains are focused solely on self preservation.
verguchis puchis it’s been a known psychological fact for quite some time now that psychopaths are first and foremost survivors. It’s idiotic to try and get someone who’s brain is programmed better than anyone else’s for self preservation, to compromise their self preservation. So in conclusion: no u.
Randy Rogers Yea suure so those facts determine that no psychopaths could ever make any mistakes or lose control about their situation when theyre lying? LOL try again, humans can always stray be irrational and make mistakes, especially under stress.. no matter how much of a psychopathic and intelligent they are my little pseudo-psychologist ;)
There should be a movie about this guy with Christian Bale.
Funny you say that, apparently this guy treated the "American Psycho" book as his bible.
This guy & Mr. Bale favor each other.
Misha Collins plays him in the movie Karla, no Christian Bale but its good
Tom Cruise could play the role well too I believe
Yeah as soon as he started talking I was reminded of Patrick Bateman!
He's like, "Yeah, whatever. I'm here for the rest of my life. Thanks for a bit of fun today for a change. It doesn't really matter what I say."
Your comment is the only one that makes common sense among the socalled educated commentators who try to overanalyze him.
@@Dodo-ym8cc Yea i wouldn't say there all over analyzing..theres no way this is just a normal conversation
but i have to agree i think the original comment is right lol
Hahah agree
It's actually very creepy how calm he is and how much in control he thinks he is.
He is in control this was like a play date for him a narc play date
@@N0N4M30 Hes not entirely in control. They're letting him think he is to a large degree.
He’s so calm because he’s a psychopath. That is what they do. They have no feeling whatsoever and no shame.
Agreed. Very disturbing.
you all guys sayiing that its creepy that he is calm. but dont you wonder what the explanation of his calmness is? the life he has to go through and see, that compared to that, interogation seems like no big deal? you go through that life and see how sane you come out on the other side, if you come out at all. no one is a psychopath from birth, they are a result of unimaginable abuse and torture
They should just hire psychopaths to interview the psychopaths. Problem solved.
Greg Palin
High ranked investigators are psychopaths to deal with psychopaths
L L no they’re not. A truly self developed human being decides when he acts like like a respectful guy and when to be manipulative depending on the situation. On the point of hiring psychopaths, its been proven time and rime again that putting PP’s in positions of power is good once, but let them stay in a power position gor many many times and theyll take over the whole place as if it belongs to them in a certain way.
That's how you get the CIA
Genuinely one of the best options but you shouldnt let a physcopath in the position for too long.
We arent all bad though a large amount of the population wont do much to others despite it being "fun". most of us just go about like anyone else
They usually do in other police departments. Though murder police seem the most empathetic, to victims in any case.
'I made mistakes 17 years ago' - MISTAKES?! He is so repulsive I couldn't watch past that point
What did he do?
Raped 15 women killed 4people
@@Fire-dk6ud I'd say his mother made a mistake when she found out she was pregnant and didn't reach for the coat hanger
@@Fire-dk6ud And he got out!???
@@trickynick4989 no. He's in solitary confinement at the moment
I'm 15 minutes in and the convict still hasn't answered a question. The interviewer however, has done his best to answer every question thrown his way 😃
Idiots. The cops don't care about the conversation, being on top, being fair, or "winning." They'll play along and look dumb and let him get comfortable and smug, whatever. All they care about is that he makes one slip-up they can use to nail him.
O Canada.
Kube is right, detectives have time on their side and typically the more the suspect says the worse for the suspect. However, it is true that whoever is asking questions and getting questions answered is in control.
The illusion of control, given to him by the people who control almost every aspect of his life at this moment.
MrSquishyCookie He mentioned in the beginning that legally he can decide not to talk. The interviewer will ofcourse answer questions, that's his job. Try not to romanticize psycopathy too much
Fantastic demonstration by Paul who has highlighted his narcissistic/ psychopathic behaviour during the interview. He is not a liar and made a few mistakes in the past apparently.
LOL the guy is a serial killer but he's worried about being portrayed as a liar. smh what a nut
He's not worried about anything since he's a psychopath. He's faking these concerns as a tool to manipulate the conversation
Yeah, he says its ok to call him a serial killer and rapist but not a liar. So crazy
No, it’s about creating doubt. You mention what the other person did wrong (doesn’t matter if it is just if you can convince them they did) and the ride the moral Trojan house until they cave. Works great on average people, not on cops. Psychopaths now tricks, but they are not exactly smarter. But try telling them that.
he is trying to avoid as much as possible. he is skirting personal responsibility.
I suspect he's also lying to himself, he probably thinks he's a good person day to day, and he can't stand others not thinking that, if he admits the truth he'll be admitting to himself he's lying to himself. Which will hurt him. If he was interested in the truth for himself he would have stopped after his first major crime. Because the only way people go straight after such crimes is to be honest with themselves. And then from there they learn to coexist in society before been let out of jail.
Then we all cross our fingers the rehabilitation program worked and they don't kill again.
fucking spinning in his chair..like this is so mundane !
This is a classic example of "circle talk". Manipulators use this tactic to try and control the direction of discussions. Doing a lot of talking and not really saying anything. This guy is a piece of work. He keeps saying "I'm a human being...", but that is debatable. Glad he was finally caught. Peace.
What they don’t realize is that it’s a weakness.
Yeah, Paul just rambles on and on. It's all "hot air". Doesn't he know that brevity is the soul of wit?
It's called word salad. It's used as a defense mechanism with psychopaths. Deflection of the shame that comes with blame. Blame is the siamese twin of shame and shame is what drives a psychopath or a dark triad person to collapse. DARVO Deny Attack Reverse Victim Offense
Someone needs to take control of the conversation back and put that sociopath in his place...not be super polite and let him manipulate the conversation
“I look at you, and you’re the bad guys.” Wow this guy
He's like Johnny Ringo He's accepted the fact that he's a bad guy therefore he identifies with that label of good people versus bad people but to a criminal things are always reversed The cops are the bad people you know what I mean...
its hard to tell, but the police are letting him use his own intelligence to pin him to specifics. this guy is playing them; but they are playing him.
Imo they wegrent doing it deliberatly. It seemed as if the dude in the white shirt allowed them to behave like that, and made them feel guilty for making him be there.
Anto Sharboonian Yhea there was some insane Intellectual battle going on under the surface. The police let him do his “thing” to get info out of him. And he knew that and acted like he dint to steer the conversation.
@@antosharboonian6110 They were doing it on purpose. They are interrogators and trained. They understand he is narcissistic and wants to control the conversation so they feed into it to get more information out of him. They play into his weakness. They are being submissive on purpose. If they were like him he wouldn’t have talked like he was or said much.
He sounds like every Jesse Eisenberg character ever.
Enkii Muto this 😂😂😂😂😂
His whole dismissive attitude reminds me of Jesse Eisenberg's acting during the two interviews in the Social Network. In one of the scenes he kept looking out the window and he told the lawyer that he didn't deserve his full attention xS
Which is just one character - all jesse eisenburg playing his one note self.
Thank you, now I am scared of Jesse Eisenberg:-D
Jesse Eisenberg, but at 0.75x speed
I think he has all features of a good politician
Like Canada's current PM?
@@beastlyendeavour9184 no like trump
Jimmy Carton 1. It was not the entire white population, it was a minority of white people. Also, NOT ONE of those people are alive today.
2. I am Native American. I also live in the US, if the US falls, so do all of us, which is a stupid comment to begin with.
or an aggressive, authoritarian young CEO on the rise.
Yesterday in LinkedIn someone said the politicians are human (regarding the finish mp in a party while the country suffers recession ) , I watching this video and reading your comment I realise the politicians have narcissistic and psychopath traits. They lack of empathy which is what make us human, therefore they are not.
The cop asks him if he killed someone on a specific date and the guy says “well, that’s a loaded question”. No, for real, that is a simple yes or no question.
That was the craziest part to me
I think anyone would know if they killed someone, evading the question is, in my opinion, as good as admitting it.
This circle shaped room would turn anyone into a sociopath.
Paul Bernardo is worried about his reputation... lmao
@@3dguy839 seriously? What was that like? 😮
john palagonia for reals?
His reasoning was that the sentencing comes down to credibility
As are all narcissists
@@3dguy839 wow crazy.
What strikes me immediately about this guy, is the way in which he attempts to gain dominance in the room. When asked a direct question about his whereabouts, he responds with lengthy, convoluted criticisms of the investigation itself, which when coupled with his body language, would almost suggest that he is in charge of the investigation, rather than being a suspect or a witness.
I agree with the previous commenter who noted how the room was most likely set up to give him a false sense of security. I.e. rather than backing him into the corner of a tiny room and interrogating him, they gave him breathing space and a sense of control, so that his ego would get the better of him, and he would eventually talk himself into a corner.
wow that's smart.
head of the table seat... door behind him, not trapped.
wow
Give them enough time to talk and they can’t help but brag. I think it’s because they feel comfortable in the space, are comfortable that the person (or people) with them aren’t a threat, and that they believe they have control.
He was already charged and he admitted to the crimes. He just wanted to talk and they let him
Donald Trump classic.
I spent 10 years as a military policeman in the Marine Corps and Army and I’m an OEF disabled veteran. I also have a bachelors degree in criminal justice with a minor in psychology. The worst thing you can neglect catching any criminal is thinking someone doesn’t look the part of a criminal. Evil doesn’t always look like a homeless person. Most of the time, attractive people get away with these things longer because they are used to people treating them better than a homely looking person. Your eyes are the biggest betrayers of your mind. Always look deeper when seeking the truth. If you doubt my words, think about how you act towards attractive people versus unattractive people. You treat them better right? Why? Because they don’t appear to be a threat. People always without fail, look at the butt ugliest people to pin crimes on. It’s the biggest fault of mankind. Take a look at the biggest most prolific serial killers, most of them would be considered attractive.
I've never seen an evil looking homeless person. Seen plenty of evil looking policeman though. just saying
What is considered attractive is a matter of opinion.
Why would your example of looking like evil be a homeless person for fux sake?
Most of those people aren't bad people.
You should have used the example of politician, police officer, or celebrity.
All, way more evil than your average homeless dude.
Get a grip.
@@Ty91681 For Fucks sake, as bad as it sounds, people stereotype other people.
If the police and media stopped describing certain types of criminals as "monsters" perhaps some people would "see" them more clearly. But we like the word monster because it gives us (as false) sense of security in thinking that they can't possibly be (or look) just like us..... My father was a "monster" but nobody ever looked past his piercing blue eyes, charming chat and smart suit. Luckily the f#cker's dead now so the world's a better place 🙃
I get chills when he refers to himself as a “human being”
cringe comment
2 years later, but I think his point in that is that human are flawed and disgusting creatures by nature. Humans are responsible for every single crime possible, but to say he is dissociated is an insult to him as an intellectual person.
@@jasonebat1074 he’s smart he knows what he’s doing
@@jasonebat1074 people do commit evil acts. However, some animals committ what we see as crimes against each other when we view their actions through the lens of human morality. Sea otters will sexually assault baby seals. Male gorillas and lions will kill the babies of the tribes and the prices they take over because they don't want to raise the young of another male. This will drive the females back into estrus so the new heads of the tribe and pride can impregnate them. Penguins will steal rocks from other penguins.
I think for us to truly progress we must recognize our potential for psychopathy on an individual level. Everyone has a dark side and if we don’t learn how to properly integrate it we will continue to be victims and prey for predators
They are playing this guy. I’m a parole officer, and we deal with this all the time. He presents very similarly to what you would see with an habitual domestic violence offender, for example. He is caught in attempting to perpetuate a power/control dynamic in which he doesn’t actually have any power, but doesn’t know any other way to shift the dynamic in his favor. The method is be polite, be professional, even a little insecure in the information you have, this will fire him up and cause him to try to beat you down with his intelligence and self-assuredness, in doing so he will throw himself under the bus with his testimony and reveal way more than his attorney would like. He’s not brilliant, he’s not even that smart actually. He’s just another thug.
Thanks for the information mate. From a psychopathic repeat offender! :)
Yeah, I can't believe anyone thinks he's doing anything other than burying himself. Cops are amazing at interrogation techniques, and they know this guy will spill his guts if they allow him to. It's like watching a scrub walk into the ring with Joe Fraizer.
Typical response from someone in law enforcement. Always pretending to be on top no matter what, you just can't admit that you lose battles sometimes. Pretentious, artificial confidence that is bred into you through your training. Loser.
Sword Artist not really. Cops are really good at one thing: interrogation. They do it more than I'll ever do it in my life. They also have theory on how to use it. So in essence they are highly trained for these engagements. The psycho is out of his depth here. Talking is always a liability unless you have a water tight story.
Randall Ball and Sword Artist: You’ve both got a point. Obviously this guy achieved his objective of killing people. And the rub in law enforcement is that nothing we could’ve done would have stopped it. So in that sense he “wins.” It’s hard to find a killer. It’s not difficult to interview him effectively. All I’m saying is that it’s easy to see this guy out of context as “in control of the interview,” and that’s just not what’s actually going on here.
Jordan Peterson led me here.
Peterson led me here again:
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GabeRealRendon So what?
Seriously? Wanna be best friends now?
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It’s quite rare to have a Psychotic Sociopathic Narcissist but when it happens, it’s society’s worst nightmare.
I live with one
@@leighharrell8953 😞 run.
The two are mutually exclusive, either its one or the other, it can't be both
Psychopaths are most often also narcissists. And sociopath is not a real psychological term. I recommend searching this up yourself
You do know psychotic comes from psychosis, and has nothing to do with sociopathy or psycopathy yes?
Hes pissed because hes being branded a liar but he killed 4 woman?
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They were young girls...
It's called manipulation based on this: if I worry so much about being called a liar, it would affect me very much the killing, right?
He’s so self-important. What a narcissist!
Truly is
Calm it down your off the rails
Self importance is evolution & evolution is the key to success..
@@ThebirdsandThebees6000 What are you trying to say? That I’m going off the rails on a crazy train lol Actually I’m firmly planted ON the rails, I’m just not a self-important narcissist lol
@@richiesaesthetics5115 checks & balances, consistent overindulgences in one’s own ego & ideological beliefs tends to be resistant to differing beliefs & change & it is deadly because it creates tyrants who (attempts to) convinces & conforms others to their own cynical ideas, just ask Hitler
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Its interesting to see him picking a small proportion of a statement (completely avoiding to answer a question) and try to grow a full conversation about it. He said the word 'liar' about 100 times and said that the police are lying that he is lying, while that wasn't even what the interview was about. He also makes these facial expressions towards the man on the right when saying something and after hes done talking, his face just goes blank. Lastly, he keeps on trying to backfire with a question of his own wich I find very creepy. So at all times hes trying to control the conversation and I absolutely think hes a psychopath.
He actually is😂 so...
teacher in v-neck anybody?
Jordan Peterson
Yea lol
Yup
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"Im not here to point the finger at anyone" ohhh okay Paul thank God we were worried!!!
fun fact, there are more psychopaths in this comment section then in the video
How's your day?
@@yoyowiggles3556 well, that's a loaded question.
yeah no shit there are 3 people in the video and 3K in the comments...
That WAS a fun fact
Hey, I resemble that remark :)
The police officer tells him that there are consequences to Paul's lying. This guy is in Prison for the rest of his life,
so what would he care about there being consequences to his lying?
He’s not as interesting as he thinks.
@Keylanos Lokj That's like all PEOPLE EVER .
You got a head like a fucking orange.
He’s not trying to be interesting? He’s using every tactic his psychopathic brain can come up with to benefit his situation.
Clapton Orient Fanz He’s enjoying the game of superiority!
He has taken up the role of investigator saying ‘I can do your job better than you can..” as his chosen method of exonerating himself.
Most of them like to do this, take the seat of the therapist or investigator etc.
Not interesting at all; boring and repetitive!
And just like that.....K MAN eradicates all psychopaths on Earth.
That room and table is designed to confuse the shit out of the most evasive offenders in order to get them to confess without even knowing it.
No
Explain?
@@greenfrog2891 Does that room look even close to a typical interrogation room? It looks like my parent's attic FFS.
I'm not a liar..... just a murderer.
What’s the problem then ?
@@sonnydortmund1513 The killing?
His biggest crime was that he lied.
The most contemptible sin, is the one you haven't done.
(that doesn't work in his case, but we all look down on others issues, but have lenience, compassion for those who "made mistakes" and did the thing we did)
Thé body language is even more telling than the dialogue. Turn off the sound and yes Bernardo is in charge and giving instructions. It’s incredible.
I think they are playing sheep quite effectively. They just want evidence out of this pos and they won't get it throwing weight around.
That's what the interviewers want him to think!
Cop should have started the interview with: 'Paul, do you like Phil Collins..?'
lol
Riojajunior I don't get it, what does Phil Collins have to do with this guy ?
Exactly !lol
Jigme watch the movie American Psycho
Riojajunior Or Hughey Lewis and the News.
Us normal people don't stand a chance to make it with people like this. My ex of 8 years has to be a psychopath/sociopath. Bringing up things he did always ended like this and making me more confused feeling like i was going crazy. Thank God I'm out now.
"Thank God I am out."
Are you sure that you are out?! Beware the wolf!
Good for you, I grew up with a parent that has a lot of toxic traits. It’s really hard you know, just being able to tell took me pretty much 20 years.
Btw I think that kind of person tries to confuse you, so you’re kept occupied trying to figure it out, instead of paying attention to the way they slight you. That’s my theory.
Exhausting
He definitely wasn’t, it’s rare af , women throw around narcissist and psychopath too much
This is absolutely chilling to watch. Imagine being these investigators having to sit in this room with this absolute psychopath, and having to remain calm and suppress probably every urge in your body to just kill him right there. Then he’s asked whether he killed Elizabeth Bain and his response is, “that’s a loaded question”. Isn’t that the easiest question in the world to answer, if you didn’t do it? You’d think he would remember killing her. Then he actually has to be reminded of dates when raped women, because he did it so often that he actually lost count. I left watching this interview absolutely convinced that he killed Elizabeth Bain too.
Absolutely. An evil creature that should not be breathing oxygen.
Growing up just across the border in Niagara county NY I remember this very well.
Well, it is a loaded question. You don't answer that question, even if you're innocent, without a lawyer...or shouldn't. Innocent people go to prison. You say you didn't, they say you did. You explain...what you say can be used against you...sometimes what you say can make you look guilty, so that's why you never talk to the police without a lawyer when asked if you killed a person, especially if there is a lot of circumstantial evidence against you. It can be loaded for an innocent person. Of course, he did it...just saying when you answer that question, you had better have your ducks in a row to prove it. Sometimes the police prove something false is true...usually in good faith, but what does it matter if the detectives that interrogated you were good, honest cops and the prosecutor genuinely thought you did it if you are on say...death row. I wouldn't answer it without a lawyer.
@@wolfgangamadeuscloud2676 His lawyer is sitting right there in this interview.
Well just dont call him a lair
@@wolfgangamadeuscloud2676it’s a yes or no question Wolfgang, yes I murdered her or no I didn’t
It’s a stain on our justice system that Karla Homolka isn’t locked up
apparently she’s a teacher now too...
Canada is shit.
Canada and awful justice system
There is something to be said about the way he interrupted the female Constable every time she said something. This is a tactic to keep her as uninvolved as possible. He feels like he stays in control of the situation by dominating the room anytime she wants to move the conversation in a specific direction. She does a wonderful job of letting him feel like he is in control.
That, or he just found her annoying and was completely uninterested in anything she had to say (a relatable sentiment).
It shows he is a misogynist too
He's very sensitive about being viewed as a liar, how ironic.
It seems what he's saying is that they already consider him to be a liar, so he's questioning them as to why they bother bringing him in to be questioned if they think he's going to lie to them. They know he's not going to admit to anything, so what's the point. He's got no respect for their procedure.
He is not sensitive, it's called emotional manipulation
Sensitive? That's a strong word.
Who is here after Jordan Peterson video
Denied Parole Oct 2018. 25 years In solitary confinement.
Yeah that's actually brutal. Humans can't survive without socialization for shit. It's like half a miracle he didn't die or break down somehow. He deserved it though. Solitary confinement is a fate worse than death easily. This is a matter of biology.
@@WT_Neptune wait what did they to him?
Anthonyy_vivid put him in solitary confinement for 25 years
I think it’s a fitting punishment that someone who has made the lives of everyone he meets hell and thrived of it shouldn’t be allowed to see anyone
@@zebraman7703 wtfff
Love how the holds his hands up like he’s innocent. Sits slouched back like he’s comfortable with his actions. ‘Did you kill her?’ That’s a loaded question. Geez, this guys cares nothing about anyone but himself-which I suppose is why JP sent me here to show me a real live narcissist.
wow. who is interviewing who in here?
Biniyam, and I quote: "I was too busy doing other things". like raping and murdering.
Biniyam he controlling them..lmao he just punked them off..funny that's how he got a way with the rapes..they had dna..sketch b4 he killed them girls
That female cop didn't buy it...they were catering to his personality hoping he tripped up look at 17:00 she signals hes talking in circles
You know it’s cute, they intentionally gave him the impression of control. It’s a common interrogating technique,
and for a very good reason. Obviously it depends on the situation and the individual, but boy this was obviously the correct approach.
can you not see whats going on here? They are making him feel important.. hence why they are doing the interview in a boardroom setting, having him sit on a swivel chair at the end of the table
The reason is to make him show his true controlling colours and to talk
which he is falling for hook line and SINKER
This is a prime example of two Officers doing their job and not letting their position of authority get in the way of solving the case and putting a criminal away for life. Good Job!!!
He’s already in jail for life lmao he just wants to talk as much as possible
@@lilenigma6544 talk to the police as much as possible will get an innocent jail for a lifetime
Paul's knows that and he can't stop talk because the cops did a good job
@@sahtification yes they did it’s a good thing they have great work in their field to make sure justice is served
Totally agree.
Their was zero reason for this interview
He sounds just like every boss I have ever worked for. Nothing is his fault . Could it be that you only ever became the boss if you are a psychopath could it be that the world has been run by people like this since the start of time. It might explain human history.
Interesting
Politician is absolutely in the top ten professions for psychopaths. Along with lawyer and police officer.
Do the math
Every boss? So, every single authoritative figure you have had in the work field is threatening to you? You may need a psychiatrist, bud.
@@falconeri4047 I have never felt threatened. The Boss I have right now said " if you want to get militant, I can make your life miserable" I replied " No you can't, if I don't like working here I'll leave. I know where the door is".
So I'm never threatened. I'm a HGV driver loads of jobs.
It's just an observation. I exaggerated a bit just to make a point. But I do think mankind has been run by the wrong type of people and still is.
But no need for a physiotherapist just yet 😆
@@7john7able Based on some video I saw on youtube a lot of psychopats is CEO's, doctors, policeman and, maybe lawyers.
He has a point that Karla should have been polygraphed before she was ever offered any plea deal.
Bernardo's lawyer hid the horrific videos that the killers made which showed her active participation in the murders and rapes, only submitted after the plea deal.
I agree considering She was the worst of the two. The murders were her idea.
This legit looks and feels like a movie scene and not a real interrogation.
“Do you want something to eat” that’s a loaded question
He gets them on the defensive right off.
WatchWait 2 minutes in and the detective is already apologising for something he didn't do.
He's already in jail for life. They don't care.
He started out sounding marginally believable. However, when he starts deflecting blame and not answering / dodging key questions, you know something is up.
1-2 years ago: Came for Jordarn Peterson
2020: Came for Paul Bernardo (The CEO of Psychopaths)
@Nebulas Blu naruto mixed with sword art online
@Nebulas Blu oh
Came from tik tok
This is EXACTLY the behavior going on in the WH and Congress right now. This is classic behavior of our government. This points to the majority of our leaders suffering from personality disorders and mental illness and hoping the public doesn’t notice or are too dumb to put the pieces together.
Christian Bale - American Psycho ALL The WAY
No this guy is real.
He wanted to be Patrick Bateman so bad. I guess he called the book his bible
they can always remember in great detail when it's something that favors them,but don't recall when it may be incriminating..politicians do the same thing!
Exactly like Hillary Clinton.
Dude shut the fuck up about politics for two seconds. Move to Antarctica or something.
Hillary testified under oath. However, there is this one orange man that suffers from Bone Spurs and his goons that plead the fifth and resort to conspiracy theories to confuse and manipulate the sheep.
@@oefa12892 fuck Hilary Clinton. Are you triggered?
@@tonymontez6628 And the leftists politicians are perfectly innocent? You lot act like fucking saints.
JBP didn't send me here but now I have to go over there and see what he has to say about this PoS
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He cares more about being labeled a liar than of the lives he took, and he calls everyone else the 'bad guys'. He has some fucking gall.
He's gross man, look at his record:
May 4, 1987: Rape of a 21-year-old Scarborough woman in front of her parents' house, after Bernardo followed her home.
May 14, 1987: Rape of a 19-year-old woman in the backyard of her parents' house.
July 17, 1987: Attempted rape of a young woman. Although he beat the victim, he abandoned the attack when she fought back.
September 29, 1987: Attempted rape of a 15-year-old girl. Bernardo broke into a house in Scarborough and entered the victim's bedroom. He jumped on her back, put his hand over her mouth, threatened her with a knife, bruised the side of her face and bit her ear. Bernardo fled when the victim's mother entered the room and screamed. 19 years old at the time of the crime, Anthony Hanemaayer was convicted of the sexual assault in 1989 and served a sixteen-month prison sentence, but was exonerated after Bernardo admitted the crime in 2006.[9]
December 16, 1987: Rape of a 15-year-old girl. The next day Metropolitan Toronto Police issued a warning to women in Scarborough travelling alone at night, especially those riding buses.
December 23, 1987: Rape of a 17-year-old girl with a knife he used to threaten his victims. At this point, he began to be known as the Scarborough Rapist.
April 18, 1988: Bernardo attacked a 17-year-old girl.
May 25, 1988: Bernardo was nearly caught by a uniformed Metro Toronto investigator staking out a bus shelter. Although the investigator noticed Bernardo hiding under a tree and pursued him on foot, he escaped.
May 30, 1988: Rape of an 18-year-old woman in Mississauga, Ontario, about 40 kilometres (25 mi) southwest of Scarborough.
October 4, 1988: Attempted rape in Scarborough. Although his intended victim fought him off, he inflicted two stab wounds to her thigh and buttock which required 12 stitches.
November 16, 1988: Rape of an 18-year-old woman in the backyard of her parents' house
November 17, 1988: Metro Police formed a task force to capture the Scarborough Rapist.
December 27, 1988: Attempted rape, with a neighbour chasing Bernardo off.
June 20, 1989: Attempted rape; the young woman fought, and her screams alerted neighbours. Bernardo fled with scratches on his face.
August 15, 1989: Rape of a 22-year-old woman. Bernardo stalked her the previous night outside the window of her apartment, and waited for her to arrive home.
November 21, 1989: Rape of a 15-year-old girl Bernardo saw in a bus shelter.
December 22, 1989: Rape of a 19-year-old woman.
May 26, 1990: Rape of a 19-year-old woman. His victim's vivid recollection of her attacker enabled police to create a computer composite portrait, which was released two days later by police and published in Toronto and area newspapers.
July 1990: Two months after police received tips that Bernardo fit the Scarborough Rapist composite, he was interviewed by two police detectives.
Awful. Why is he still alive...
Those poor victims. How can you ever feel safe again? Oh, it breaks my heart.
He should get the death penalty
@fxc2 I think if some big black dude rapes me randomly continuously, that'll cure him quickly.
@@Chrisiamtheluciddream because the death penalty doesnt exist in canada unlike the expensive and time wasting savagery that the yanks call the "Death penalty"
Jordan Peterson made me watch this to find something important
He did! I even saw the gun he held against your head. Jordan should really sort himself out.
Lol 😂 😂
Well, I'm outta here, the first 9 mins is this guy complaining that a news story in September called him a liar. Literally.
If he have shouted "fake news", i wouldnt have been surprised. 😂😂 this guy is trumpian af. POS
@@carolannelady9271 stfu
@@brendanburke6922 triggered much?
Yes, and you clearly weren't understanding why
Ah this makes me physically sick. It's a difficult truth to know that a human is capable of existing within such a dark reality.
His lawyer does a great job of making sure he doesn't say anything to incriminate himself
Omg this comment is soo good
I’m no lawyer. It I noticed a couple of times his lawyer should have stopped him. 😂
officers handled it very well - acting as though they agreed with his stories and remained calm with smiles upon their faces. because of this, Paul kept talking and dug a bigger hole for himself.
He’s smart: don’t give them any more information than they already have. And at the same time he wants to appear, emphasis on appear, like he’s co-operating.
But what's the point?
Will this interview in any way manage to get him a legal concession or sympathy from a jury? The interrogator purposely reminded him that his testimony was voluntary. Even if the police lied, as he claims, or was unfair it doesn't matter since THEY ARE NOT IN TROUBLE.
His ego got the better of him. This is how to trap a psychopath: Give them an opportunity to show off their smarts and let them hang themselves.
Nah they think are smart, but in reality it's easy to do what he does. The difference is that normal people realize when they are caught and accept their guilt like men, guys like this will keep struggling with worms even though nobody is falling for any of their tricks at all.
Whether narcissists or psychopaths, they both struggle with guilt because they are motivated by ego to trick others for the heck of it. That makes them, ironically, also manipulable provided one knows what buttons to push.
His whole reaction is basically "look how much smarter I am than you, why are you being so stupid and listen to how clever I am" typical
Exactly