Paul Bernardo - Police interrogation of notorious serial killer
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- Опубликовано: 17 фев 2014
- Here is the jailhouse interview of Paul Bernardo, perpetrator of what his victims' lawyer called "the most sensational crime in Canadian history," here to be being studied educationally for its insight into the psychology of such a man.
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Paul Bernardo and his wife, Karla Homolka, became notorious for the abductions and murders of two Ontario school girls, 14-year-old Leslie Mahaffy and 15-year-old Kristen French. Bernardo also sexually attacked 20 other women. It was huge news and the events still remain of great news value and public interest because of the controversial court proceedings.
Extracts from the interview were filed in court in connection with an application by a London, Ont., man who was convicted of an attack on a 15-year-old girl in 1989 to which Bernardo has now confessed to committing. The wrongful conviction was a story I broke in the National Post on April 24, 2008, an investigation I am proud of; revealing injustice is one of a journalist's highest callings.
After his convictions, Toronto Police interviewed Bernardo at Kingston penitentiary in 2007 as part of their investigations into other crimes that occurred at the time Bernardo was raping and killing. The government fought to suppress the video but Ontario Superior Court Justice David McCombs ruled the full 31-minute interview was of value to the public. "The Internet is now an established extension of responsible media outlets' reporting," the judge ruled.
It is the first time most people have a chance to see and hear from the notorious man directly. Although his trial was dominated by horrific videos he and Homolka made of their victims, the audio and video of those videos were never made public.
During the interview Bernardo says he has overcome his sexual insecurity that was his trigger and he would be a good candidate for parole in a few years. Fat chance.
"My thing was not to hurt these girls at all, I just wanted the sex. You know when you're a sex predator ... that's what you do, right, 'cause that's your life. I mean it's your vice and me I had a performance anxiety.... You know you have power, control, over younger victims ... Are you a psychopath your entire life," he asked, "or are you a psychopath at that moment and time when you're egocentric about your sex?"
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Jordan Peterson sent me here
Arshbir Singh samep
Jordan Peterson is not a psychopath, sheesh....
Jennifer, give an example... you're just rambling nonsense right now like the narcissist in the video.
It's more likely that you're projecting your dishonesty and grandiosity.
He's not a psychopath because he has negative emotions, you can observe this for yourself... crying can be faked but you can actually see him anxious at times.
Me too
#MeToo
He’s more concerned about people thinking he’s a liar rather then a murderer or rapist. Interesting.
Simple to him he is not a murderer. the rapes had happened in his mind long enough ago that it’s excusable...so the only offense in his mind that can be given to him is a liar those other two things hold no weight in his conscience. Call him a murderer and a rapist then it gives him leverage on you for lying that’s where the trap is set up.
Well, as much as a murder or rape is about power, what do you think this interview was, to him? If he admits he's a liar, he has no power, no control, and in his mind he would be completely taken advantage of. It would be like allowing everyone in that room to have power over him. It also destroys his image and exposes his true nature, which is essential to a narcissist. Look up narcissistic injury.
I think this is because his identity revolves around being able to lie well. When someone calls him out, and suggests he's not good at what he perceives he's very good at he gets really offended lol
Probably the root of his trauma why he acted out his heinous crimes in the first place
All that matters is how he can manipulate the situation.
His arrogance is shocking, all things considered. And Karla Holmokla should have NEVER EVER been released from prison
Going by the same standards of justice and karmas case Bernardo has served too much time and should get paroled in the next few weeks
All
Gail Canadian justices
He probably would have walked without her testimony though and they put the wrong guy in jail first too that should be criminal imo.
Yeah I agree. She was the mastermind behind this. Kinda like Adam and Eve uh?
Agree 1000%
@@oldironsides4107 He'll never serve enough time.
How dare they put his reputation in jeopardy by calling him a liar.
He's a good boy. Never hurt anybody. He volunteers at the homeless shelter and he's studying to be a therapist so he can help people.
If anything being a liar is his most respectable character trait
@@fluffylittlebear what a good person
Lol! Sounds familiar!
So nuts
Is it trade mark sociopathic to be able to talk for hours and hours and say literally nothing at all? Politicians do this.
Siobhan Henry if that's the case I must be a sociopath 😂
Donald trump
In the beginning of the video. The very beginning. Bernardo Looks like he’s smelling the woman cops pussy like Hannibal Lecter in silence of the lambs lol Mmmm you wear Evian skin cream lol
that's a woman invention
every 4th politician is a path supposedly
"I made mistakes 17 years ago." Not paying bills on time is a mistake, speeding ticket is a mistake.
Yeah, he did pretty much the worst thing you could ever to do someone. Kidnap, torture, film it, rape a minor, brutalitize, drug, sodomize, murder, dismember and dump a cut up body in a lake. And that was ONE of his victims....
To be fair, the authorities made mistakes too.
He's still breathing.
Scott Hillary agree well said
@@texasray5237 WELL said!!
Not that I didn’t want the death penalty, but his jail cell is quite small. It’s set up for one to literally rot in jail. Good alternative for sure. However, I wish that man or women would put him down right (on this video camera).’
Incredible how being called a liar is the most important thing to him. Narcissist whole life is based on getting away with lies......they'll NEVER admit to a lie even when caught
This is a good distinction, they will lie even after being caught.
Ich glaube da handelt es sich um einen Psychopathen.
itsmore they have to be right
He’s placed at the head of the table,has dominion over the only exit out of the room, given a swinging chair, has a view out of a window, gets to interview the interviewers…and so on. Excellent teaching material. Having worked in the prison service for several years, I’d change those things pretty fast just to make my life easier!
All good points!!
@Ramesses II Setepenre It would certainly play to his ‘strengths’ and allow us to see him in true form. 👍🏻
Meant to feed his ego
@@annabelsmart5305 in his natural habitat per se
It is done on purpose.
“I’m not a liar!” Sir, that’s the least of your problems.
It's a question of integrity. It is the most important thing to him.
Right??
Amazing performance by Christian Bale.
Ahahaha 😆
haha asshole
"oh good for youuuuu"
tamaleboy amazing I was just thinking the exact same thing
Oh I see it now 😬
He is so creepy. Even his eyes from a distance are so unsettling. And even his anger in his gestures and tone. What an unstable and horrible person.
Ok Pennywise. Ok.
Dude, you prey, scare and kill kids dressing like a clown, eat them and keep them forever in the dead lights. You even take long naps (27 years, nice) when you’re full. Bernardo’s an injured puppy compared to that. Good movie, though 👍
he’s an artist. master of manipulation
He is not unstable
@@Mark_Tschetterall narcissists are unstable. It’s an emotional disorder.
The dynamic is so strange in this interview.
“Enough manipulation” -Paul Bernardo
LOL
Well I mean a career manipulator will know manipulation best...
"Either I'm a liar or I'm not." Yeah, I'm pretty sure he is!!! His attorney, silent.
@JR 1986 He is a bamboozler.
You do almost have to laugh right? Otherwise you'd cry. RIP Kristen, Leslie and Tammy
💀💀
Should not have seated Paul at the HEAD of the table.
Why not? Let him feel like he’s in control so he divulges more information. He doesn’t have cuffs on either. 🤷🏽♂️
Could seem counterintuitive, but yes it could have been set up that way on purpose to help him tap into his pure evil narcissism.
King Ugly If he's in control he will not divulge more information. It's basic logic. The feeling of control will give him more confidence to manipulate the interview. But taking into consideration that he definitely has antisocial personality disorder, therefore a great manipulator, the interview will be the same no matter in what part of the table he was placed.
@@dianamihaela8025 Well said.
@@dianamihaela8025 you really know nothing about psychology.
How she got married to her lawyer's brother and had 3 kids is sick.That man should be checked out.
Gerry Spence aka Cowboy Lawyer once said : "A psychopath can sit on the witness stand and lie and appear normal. A honest person on the witness stand may get nervous and come across as a liar."
Stop calling him a liar!! You’re going to ruin his reputation.
Funny how the "good guys" never say sorry for lying about him.
Lol
😅😅
Literally laughed out loud 🤣
Hahahha
I love it when heinous criminals complain about being treated unfairly.
He’s an antisocial sociopath. You shouldn’t love it or hate it. You should observe it, and try to not act like it.
Lord Tachanka clearly sarcasm
Gabriel Melnik I didn’t even imply that he loves psychopathy. His complaining about it comes from psychopathic narcissism, where he thinks he’s better than anyone else no matter what he’s done. It’s a good example of how not to act in analogous circumstances. Honestly, I expect better reading comprehension from the person who uploaded this video.
He’s not actually complaining, it’s a manipulation tactic
But but hEs A hUmAn BeIiIiIAinG
I’m so glad there was a vacuum cleaner running completely throughout the interview.
I almost heard the conversation
Lol! I thought it was a lawnmower outside the window. 😂
😂😂
@@shantreise9788 it's both. I can hear the lawnmower too.
Freakin Joe Dirt needs to beat it
Yeah I’m gonna have to peace out. I can’t hear what he’s saying over the rumble 🤨☹️
Here from Bailey’s video.
Same XD
Me too!
Me too!
Same
Same
"when you watch this interview without the sound its like the CEO of the company is scolding two of his employees for not being upto scratch"
True
That’s hilarious! It really does 🤣
I'm watching on my phone he looks like Tom Cruise telling off 2 Scientologists that haven't hit the months target
It totally does 😂😂😂😂
Travis ... it is :-)
Bernardo is saying 'I'm in control here' and 'justify yourself to me'.
It really is that kind of vibe, isn’t it.
True but the detectives are trained to deal with deceptive people like this and just letting him ramble on
@@qwertyJ94 nah he had them agreeing with him and defending themselves. He was in control
He's batting for small victories . Because he's a psychopath he needs to feel like he has the upper hand over others at all times. Obviously he can't have the upper hand in this situation because he's been found guilty of heinous crimes - so he's weaponising petty things to keep his ego in tact.
@@tcvttcvt4305 couldn’t have been said any better!
This reminds me of my ex narcissist husband. His favorite statement was, "if I've lied to you about this then I've lied about everything ". You can't reason with this kind.
A raping murdering maniac reminds you of your ex husband ?
Not only is he a rapist and a murderer, he's fucking annoying.... I wonder is he like this with the other inmates. He probably no better.
@@gregorycampbell7921The narcissist's narrative always the same, be they a criminal or not.
Does anybody else notice at 17:24 when Paul lurches forward to place his hands on the table, the female detective jerks, recoils her hands, she doesn't want any part of her body near him.
Oh definitely!
Fear!
Oh yeah and the way he makes eye contact and nods at her like an accomplice just before he's used to women just agreeing with him obviously. He's terrifying.
@@alanmucha8318 Disgust, not fear.
@@AnnaLVajda I got the chills when he did that.
i find it extremely insane how karla got 12 years when she did the same things as him.
Hailey Roussel the judicial system is a joke when it comes to differences between make and female sentencing for the same crime.
I thought Paul also raped women before hand
She did worse than him ,she raped & killed her own full blood sister ,all his victim were strangers
He was a rapist before he met her but the deaths didn’t start till he met her. They’re both equally responsible for those unspeakable crimes. I do believe that Karla did either take the girls lives or had an equal part in them. If justice was served she’d be spending her life in prison, rather than raising CHILDREN?! Wtf?? What man would dare touch that psychopathic slag?
Her testimony really helped put Paul away. The prosecution needed that testimony. It's a horrible deal but it was almost worth it just to get him off the street. He's easily one of the most evil serial predators of our time.
Who else is here from Jordan Peterson's video? :P
I am, and damn is he right about this snake in the grass
Cymric I am.
Guilty as charged :)
I love that this comment was up voted so many times ;)
What?
I live in St.Catharines. I went to the same high school as Kristen French years after she was murdered. Her mom would give a seminar every year. Him and Karla were sick people, and the fact she's free is a disgrace.
So you have some personal intimate knowledge of this
I understand the parents of Kristen were family friends of the family of the Legendary drummer for Rushs Neil Peart. It is rumored that the murdered girl he wrote about in the song Nobody’s Hero in the second verse was her. I’m am a big fan of the band and the song hits hard and is very touching to me when I listen to it.
My wife and I followed this story and its documentary. It’s just so horrible what this animal did. There is a hot place for those like him in the afterlife. They both will get eternal punishment for their crimes.
"Did you kill Elizabeth Bane?" "Well, that's a loaded question." Lol. Wow, this guy is something else.
Greg Durand that’s the bit that always got me haha a loaded question like wtf lol he is clever mofo I have to give him that
jase n jo jase n jo no, he’s not. That’s clearly a very suspicious answer if you didn’t do it.
well when you find out he worked withing a group of people that response makes alot more sense
jase n jo jase n jo he’s an arrogant idiot
Was this victim shot?
I love how the female officer mouths to the lawyer “he’s going in circles” lool
Good catch
Time
Benjamin Elswick 11:00 I think
Benjamin Elswick wait no it’s at 17:00
Guy has a small head. He is like the runt of the litter and had to kill to feel big again. What a poor kitteh
Who else was sent here after watching Jordan Petersons '- How Narcissistic Psychopaths Fool You'??
Thank you for the recommendation!
I was married to a sociopath for 21 years. They are manipulative, a genius at lying, conniving, controlling, threatening, he was a sex addict and a cheater big time. It's actually hard to put into words. He would do anything to stop me from leaving the marriage. When I finally did, I was fearful for my life, he would show up outside my building and pop out of the bushes or bang on my door demanding I let him in or phone and leave 14 voice messages, each one angrier and more threatening than the one before. When I spoke to police asking for a restraining order, all they asked is if he hit me and since that hadn't happened (yet) there was nothing they could do. They just said to divorce him. He tried desperately to turn my parents against me and I have no idea what he did or said to all my friends at that time but NEVER would anyone ever communicate with me again. It was a horrific time in my life. Eventually he remarried the next door neighbour who I believe he was having an affair with while we were still together. A few years after that he was arrested for molesting our daughter for approx. 8 years straight. Two years of trials he ended up walking. Eventually his marriage ended and he strayed back to his real self - a life of sex this time prostitutes, drugs and alcohol. He eventually lost everything, including contact with all of his family, lost his home, his vehicles, eventually evicted from his apartment. No one knows or even cares where he may be, or if he's even alive.
KARMA is a bitch, that's for sure.
What a sad story, DD. I’m sorry you had to live through that.
@@TheMobReporter Thanks, yes it was tough and after 27 years it still bothers me. I'm sure many have had it much worse, so I do count my blessings. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger is my motto.
Cheers.
"I made mistakes....." wee bit of an understatement.
Just a tad.
Fuck off!
😂😂 im laughing so hard
😂😂 im looking at yall as the bad guys😂 im dying laughing
As Eminem said on a track "a couple rape charges people think you're a monster". I think the inspiration for those lyrics must've came from listening to this guy.
He should have cleaned his room.
LOL
Hahahaha
And returned those videotapes
Uhh..it was a little more serious than cleaning his room XD
XD
This guy’s a real piece of work. He’s determined to be perceived as a truthful person, but the statements that form the basis of his concern pertain to confessions of rape and murder. Poor PB. He just can’t trust the police to substantiate his crimes.
It’s pretty amazing how Psychopaths never break character despite hours and hours of attrition put forth by the detectives.
Wrong: A psychopath can be broken. It has everything to do with the approach one takes.
@@segagenesis1989 lol ok RUclips sega genesis kid
@@chrishandsome4267 I think you're diapers need changing.
@@segagenesis1989 I don't think you addressed the main claim
@@boiboi7717 What claim is that? The fact that Paul Bernardo does not "break character" during questioning? Look, the original poster is wrong in that assessment. From Bernardo's point of view, he has nothing to gain by answering the investigator's questions. He's sitting in prison with a life sentence while his co-conspirator basically got a lenient sentence and was released from prison. Bernardo eludes to the fact the fact that the investigators are not offering him anything so he has no reason to cooperate. He clearly states this in the interview.
He isn't concerned about being called a liar, he is interested in deflecting the issue. Just like he did with the timeline and cell phone. Deflection is a classic manipulation to avoid answering questions directly.
yep, projection. Blame shifting and playing the victim.
Deflection is a specific strategy displayed here at length.
It's like he's playing a character in a movie. He doesn't break
He's way too comfortable.
He should be scared sh-tless of the consequences of not coming clean.
@@texasray5237 he's a sociopath that's why he acts like this
Well, yes and no. Pavlov's dog are dogs and that fact determines their basic instinctive behavior. But put those dogs in Skinner's escape box and give them a few electric shocks and they'll quickly learn to suppress their instincts and behave differently. Paul Bernardo needs a good shock every time he gets cocky. It wouldn't take him long at all to lose the attitude. It wouldn't have to be physical. Just take away one of the little pleasures he may have and don't restore it until he learns to behave.
@@texasray5237 Have you ever seen or read Clockwork Orange? Your ideas are reminiscent of its synopsis.
He plays that character 24/7
This is a study in Narcissistic Posturing. Inside, there must be a very broken, terrified little boy!
This guy is pure evil. He’s so calm and collected and straight to the point that he’s very believable. The most disturbing interview I’ve watched to be sure
He doesn't get to the point at all. He babbles on about shit constantly.
@@QuasiELVIS yea definitely never gets to the point
He’s deflecting…trying to steer the conversation away from the initial intent
@@QuasiELVIS because he manipulated you. 😂
Word salad! True psychopathic narcissist to the T!
Typical narcissist, trying to deflect the entire interview with the nonsense about someone calling him a liar, continuously trying to keep that the topic of the discussion no matter how many times the constables say that they can't speak to that. That is CLASSIC narcissist behavior.
Melissa Garrett Yes, classic distraction tactics.
@@SteffiNovaASMR_Replays The point is that it's not a distraction tactic, it's what he's genuinely thinking.
@@QuasiELVIS its totally a tactic, he's aware its recorded, he;s not allowing them to take momentum of the conversation
@@burgurs I guarantee he talks like that all the time, camera or no camera. It's not a tactic, he's just an annoying douchebag.
@@QuasiELVIS you can't guarantee anything. You're wrong now admit it.
He’s a torturer, murderer, & rapist. But gosh darn it, he is no liar! How insulting!
Fucking crazy he got 25 years WITH CHANCE OF PAROLE!?!?!!!???!!???!! WHAT THE ACTUAL FUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKKKK
Does any providence in Canada have the death penalty?
@@gradetrend8138 no.
@@mikedesverknopf4681 White privilige.
@@mikedesverknopf4681it is crazy. But he will never be given parole
He is commanding the room with body language by being pre occupied with outdoors. He is mocking him!
No eye contact as if he’s checked out and above this investigator
"I've had 100 lifetimes full of this stuff" - that's an unusual statement.
Lady's and gentlemen, this is absolutely the perfect example of a sociopath. Anybody who is studying psychology or criminology should watch this video
I still think that Karla freak should be in jail too.
I dont think theres a Canadian who was around during that time who thinks differently
Definitely
Yes. She's fucking demented as fuck. She and him, both laughed in the audio while the victim begs for their life and mock them and shit.
Aundrea yup she’s just as guilty
She changed her name to Leanne Teale. I don't understand he said his name was Teale.
If I were the cop, I'd have shown him how unimportant he was by sending him back to his cell after 60 seconds.
You can tell he's steamed that Karla got a deal and is free while he's still locked up.
He talks a lot and says nothing..
“I sexually assaulted people...YES...but I´ll be DAMNED if you´re gonna paint me as a liar. That´s really immoral of you guys!”
I’m a HUMAN BEING!!! 🙄
He's the victim in his mind that's why. He needed sex no big deal he's thinking probably.
@Makise Kurisu Well, I would suggest stop lying and be honest, or you'll learn to become a liar without realizing it.
He's obsessed with not being called a liar. Is it like a psychopath thing where they are obsessed with having a certain quality /characteristic?? I've had an encounter with a psychopath and he was so fixated on the term "good guy"..
Karla should never got out of jail at all
"Enough manipulation" guys a legend at this.
I hate that Karla isn't rotting in prison, but the silver lining is that it obviously eats him up that she got away with it when he didn't.
I’d like to see his parents being interviewed and make a comparison.
It really passes me off how these killers are put on a pedestal
"I'm a child rapist and murderer, but DON'T CALL ME A LIAR!!!!"
He completely hijacks the conversation within the first 3 minutes
Crazy social manipulator
The_djs ,,, yep, he's in charge, smug piece of shit
Got the interrogator being defensive in minutes. It's supposed to be the other way around.
Can’t knock him for that tho, could’ve helped out a lot in business but he went a different route...
@@fredpierce9610 Lol!
Word salad
"Sure, I made mistakes. I raped... murdered... Hell, I even smuggled cigarettes. But damned if anyone calls me a liar."
What kind of interrogators put the suspect at the head of the table in a conference room like he's the CEO? TBH, almost anyone would have assumed control in his position. They already screwed up as soon as they sat down.
And OMG, why are the detectives defending themselves? They just need to ask the questions and let the suspect talk as much as he likes without prompting obligatory responses. The incompetence here is like nothing I've ever seen before.
Edit: OK, I'm rewatching this, and they did state at the beginning that this was a "potential witness" interview, not a suspect interrogation. Still, this all seems wrong compared to the usual protocol. They made him feel way too comfortable, and not in a tactical way.
No they did that on purpose so he would talk a lot
At the end Paul Bernardo points everyone to Jordan Petterson’s video for further insight on his thinking process.
😂😂😂
😂
lol
😂 😂 yeah without Jordan we would be falling into his trap
Lmfao fucking love it!!
I like how everyone’s an expert AFTER the story and various detailed evaluations have been revealed
Right they’d be lost and believe his every word had they watched this brand new by themselves.
What? He's talking in circles about fuck and all.
Kert Cardenas....and who are you ? Columbo ?
@@weemaggiejiggs8832 if you paid attention in grade school, you could read…..
@@RUclipskert If you had paid attention in Grade school, you would know the word is "paid" and not "payed".
omg the worst part is that he is proud and has no regret because he thinks he hasn’t done anything wrong
How dare they accuse him of being a crazy liar... it's awful, they are the bad guys!
Karla should be in jail
now she's married and has 3 childrens.. the justice is not with the victims.
Because making everything illegal and putting a lot of people in prison (unless you're wealthy) has made the US crime free. It's also a good idea to maliciously ruin anybody's life who commits a crime no matter how petty (unless you're rich or some other member of the oligarchy).
Anna Kcmb yep and instead she is allowed to have a family its disgusting
Forget jail. She belongs on death row.
idiotic, must be the canadian "education". Prison is about restitution/punishment/protection it has nothing to do with origin/prevention of crime. You want to stop crime from happening you must figure out the source. Prison is to make sure these sick fucks never see the light of day so that your child doesnt get raped+murdered because lord knows they would do it again given a second chance. Nothing to do with rich/poor or even oligarchy but hey when someone rapes and murders your kid dont worry you can let them stay at your house instead of going to prison so they learn their lesson
He looks at the woman like he's trying to win her over but she doesn't buy into it
Jason Paul Jones yeah it seems like he’s used to being able to appeal to women by using false bravado and smiling, but clearly she deals with men like this and sees through his manipulative tactics.
@@seanbullock5760 I wouldn't say so. She almost started apology at the begining. Not interested in him, but still I wouldn't say she see through him.
Gorszkof Gorszkof she grabs her paper at one point and gestures to her colleague that he’s talking in circles and is often hiding laughter from his ridiculousness
He probably is used to manipulating woman more often than men. Mainly as in the girlfriends he had throughout his life. He also probably feels she isn’t as intelligent as the male detective because he’s a sociopath and believes he’s way smarter than he is. If this was before the times of DNA, cameras, technology and all the other advancements in law enforcements abilities he might’ve walked free or never been caught.
@@yearight7956 This is true bc he was interrogated 2 yrs before the streets and he sweet talked them.
Poor dude, said that he was being portrayed as a lying psychopath when it's obvious that he's a lying sociopath.
To anybody who has no idea what's happening nor any idea what a psychopath is, he might've just sounded like a normal and relaxed person. It's insane how he makes the investigator take the blame for being 'irresponsible' and how he sounds so 'normal'.
Relaxed? Hes everything but relaxed.
Yes, insane is the word.
I like how control freaks can never seem to understand the speaker, even though they're speaking clearly.
Putting everyone on the defensive to be in complete control of the conversation. Not a liar? He is nothing but.
Bernardo is a loathsome monster and should be left to rot in prison, but on one point I sympathize with him : his resentment of the fact that that sadistic gorgon of a wife, Karla Homolka, was let off the hook, still reeking with the blood of three women, including her own sister, to marry, have children and live something like a normal life, while he was buried alive in prison (as he deserved). That was a miscarriage of justice so bad as to drive somebody even as contemptible, stone-hearted and repulsive as Paul Bernardo to absolute distraction.
+William S. I agree. Justice was not served pertaining to her. I don't feel that they needed to make any kind of deal with her to prosecute Paul as they already had the DNA evidence which placed him at the crime scene. What the hell were they thinking? It's called the "vagina defense". She was just as guilty and now she is protected under the law with a different name, married with children and living as if nothing happened. That is NOT justice.
+William S. I agree. She should have scored equal jail time. I cannot abide women who collude with such repulsive expressions of rank misogyny; who betray other women so cruelly. I don't view them as victims. I think the prosecutors needed her testimony, which is why she walked. This is the problem I have with deals / immunity. Prosecutors would probably argue that they sometimes have to do deals with the devil. She's as evil as he is. I saw a clip of her smiling in a clip showing their torture of a woman. She will one day have to explain her crimes and her complicity to her daughters. She'll need a shit load of luck for that one. I can only hope she gets hers in the next life.
+Wayne Johnson Don't agree with the "vagina defense". I've seen many instances in which men either aided in the covering up of extremely serious crimes; or who were actively complicit in its execution, either walk or get off with probation because the police needed their testimony against the instigator of the crime. I just watched an episode of 'Homicide Hunter' in which a man killed a young woman in what was clearly a sexually motiavated attack and was sentenced to six years. He was out in three.
There was classic victim blaming going on throughout his defence, because the victim was and I quote, "annoying". There are instances involving less serious offences: debt, robberies, some degrees of assault, where women avoid jail. Typically this is because they tend to be the main carers of their children and the courts don't want to punish the kids as well as the mothers. Whether in some instances the kids would in fact be better off without their mothers is debatable - but the word "care" relating to such facilities is often an oxymoron in my experience.
In this case they needed Homolka's testimony. That she walked is a moral outrage and she should never experience a moment's peace in her lifetime. She will have done because clearly she's a perverted, psychopathic, inherently selfish bastard herself who is incapable of feeling guilt. But the deal apparently had to be done in this instance to get Bernardo whom it can't be denied was probably the greater danger to society as the _instigator_ of the crimes. One can only hope that there will be some sort of divine retribution for Homolka in the next life. If there's any such thing...
aerialkate While I agree somewhat with what you wrote, I still feel they had enough DNA evidence for a conviction against him. Since she was the one who brought the case against him in the first place, why wouldn't she have provided them with what they needed anyway? I don't understand that.
+Wayne Johnson Sweetheart deal. Well that's what I call it. She is a manipulating cow, and she wears the pants in her new marriage. She got the deal on the basis, she didn't lie. She lied, but they said they needed her to put him behind bar's. Eh? U found the tapes! I detest these 2 fuckers!!
There was additional information about this case that the government never published. Karla was more involved than anyone wanted to admit. Sadly due to how the legal system works in Canada the Crown needed her testimony to ensure Paul would be jailed for life.
Video proof hidden and withheld by lawyer.
"Did you kill her?"
"Wel... that's a loaded question"
I love the subtlety with which the interviewers conceal their irritation.
bluelichen lol how she turns her head like she’s just looking over..
King Ugly yes he did. The sexual assault crimes he was convicted because of at the start of the video are about the rape crimes..
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What sticks out to me the most is he has no problem with them calling him a sexually predatory and cold blooded murderer but don't you dare call him a liar. Wow!
ya but he wasn't he was a murderer credits do where credit is do
The death penalty needs to be established for certain types of crimes. This was one of them.
He'll be safer if given death penalty. Can't imagine he's not someone's trophy by now
Why give him a quick death?? Life in prison is much, much worse!
@@MMAFrisky Because its extremely costly to the taxpayer to indefinitely house and feed violent criminals that cannot be rehabilitated. Those who commit certain heinous crimes- especially those sexual in nature, against children or God forbid both- deserve a swift capital punishment once they are proven guilty beyond any shadow of a doubt. This is what a healthy society does to these monsters, not release them after a few years.
No, death penalty is nothing. Life in prison is much better.
Whoever says "let them live their life out in prison, it's worse than death", are full of it. There is a reason most inmates on death row in the U.S. use up all their appeals, fighting tooth and nail to stay their execution date. That means these people do want to live, and they are terrified of the lethal injection. They do fear it, we need whatever puts fear into these animals. Right now Paul is playing hockey in the prison's ice rink in a medium security prison. He wouldn't' be doing that in Texas.
Terrifying to think as a teenage girl I met Paul Bernardo. He was at a pub in Waterloo Ontario with a friend and I was underage at the bar. What a creep.
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Why were you at the bar underage?
@@tomohawkcloud Its what girls do. Was a university city. Drinking age is 19 but we were going before that.
@@fauna3989 guys like this walk around us everyday
How u know it was him?
He doesn't mind being called a rapist or a murderer but don't call him a liar, no, don't do that. His focus is so far off. It shows just how nuts he is.
M DP credibility is a huge thing in Canada. Its focused on heavily in all their interrogations.
It's like having a conversation with my business partner...deflection after deflection, blame game, the conversation goes nowhere but circles.
Well what happened
d.j Harden lmao
Live Stocker You need to get out x
Business partner=narcissistic psychopath+machiavellian
"deflection after deflection, blame game, the conversation goes nowhere but circles"...is your business partner of a certain political persuasion?
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“I don’t want to go off on a tangent...” complains about being called a liar for half an hour lol
He is very narcissistic and he wasted the police officers time. You can tell he is not remorseful and very uncooperative. I believe he only agree to the interview to kill his boredom.
of course he's not remorseful, he's a psychopath. i admire the self control and restraint the officers showed though, i couldn't have lasted 2 minutes without mocking and insulting that piece of shit.
"wasted the police officers time"
They invited him there, they specifically say he's there voluntarily, you're an idiot if you expect him to throw his neck under the axe. Let me know if you "waste poice officers time" if you're ever questioned by police. Thats what police do, waste time! OTHER PEOPLES TIME ! AND MONEY!
"Sometimes" they protect people, half of that ime its by being malicously narcissistic twords a legalized target.
iseeicyicetea, he would likely enjoy that.
What he wouldn't enjoy would be to be seen as irrelevant and ridiculous, that would probably make him very angry.
Alekk Wolf, what do you mean?
Yes, often times leaving a conversation we think "oh I should have said this or that"... If you stay rational and keep the emotions under control you will likely have better responses.
But do you mean that when someone is making you angry that you should read his sentence in your head before we respond/react?
Clarence Muise Well he knows he isn’t ever getting out, he’s stuck in prison until the day he dies so he knows trying to show/act remorseful now isn’t gonna get him anywhere he obviously isn’t sorry so he isn’t gonna pretend that he is to help him get out of there bc that isn’t ever gonna happen
the detective was superb,very calm and to the point,and how he didnt reach over and choke this jerk out is beyond me.
With self control like that, chances are you'll end up opposite to him. *Objectivity* is key in life.
Paul Bernardo should never get out of prison. He should spend the rest of his natural life locked up. He's still wound up too tight. If he ever got out he would go back to his old behaviors. He's trying to gaslight both of these investigators during this very interview. Bernardo strikes me as being rude, wirey, and obnoxious.
The first 11 minutes spent talking about nothing... Amazing skills...
"Made mistakes" 17 years ago? He is completely revolting.
Honestly! As if it was nothing
I enjoyed the mowing in the background.
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Mowing with a touch of edge strimming if I’m not mistaken. Nice!
@@leejackson9941 haha! It's like a similar interiew (most recent ) with Chris Watts, and it's like they put the mic inside a wood chipper
This man!!!! No words!😓
Listening to him is suffocating
Joe Hollow there’s so many points where you want to interject, but he just keeps going in circles
Not really. I view it objectively.
Atleast he speaks loud and clear, unlike Pan
"Did you kill Elizabeth Bane on June 19th 1990?"
"Well, it's a loaded question...."
Slippery as a greased up snake.
Lots of people are like that, not only him and not only men, women too, non psychopaths are like that too, so ya.
ExMachina70 ,,, he's trying to control the room, every question. He's a smug piece of shit.
Imagine how he was during the trial
This devil should have been put down 30 years ago.
This guys whole demeanor reminds me of a friend I had from high school who was in my friend group for a while. As far as I know he never hurt or murdered anybody but still sends chills down my spine
You are one of them people who put down other people in order to elevate yourself
@@JamieLamb-ft6io you don’t know a thing about me pal.
was his name Tom ?
@@richterbelmont8532i agree with jamie you are a piece of shit. No one cares about you and there is nothing you can do about it
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The tactics employed by the police are very subtle, they are constantly allowing him to reveal his psychopathic nature. He thinks he’s getting away with it but any decent psychologist or psychiatrist will see straight through those games being played.
It is astonishing how the little scrote deflects, avoids, changes the focus to anything to do with what the detectives want to talk about - and Very impressive how the detective lets him have his say, tire himself out and then come back to the point needing to be addressed....... First class police work, and Very Impressive.
I’ve found that when dealing with narcissists they need to be given hours of your time just to state all of their case, from every angle, dominating the conversation totally and butting in at every opportunity, thus saying what they’ve got to say is important and your words are worthless.
Does it really take a genius to know that he's bullshitting? C'mon now.
I agree.
In fact he exposes himself as the narcissistic psychopath he is.
He thinks he's putting them in their place.
But he's just burying himself in more and more of his own poop and destroying any trace of credibility he might still have.
Texas Ray They all think they’re always the smartest person in the room but it doesn’t take a genius to see right through them.
"He thinks he’s getting away with it but any decent psychologist or psychiatrist will see straight through those games being played. "
That's pretty irrelevant from a legal point of view. If there's no evidence and you don't admit to something it doesn't matter what they think.
What did I miss? What did the police achieve here during this episode of "First Class Police Work"? With regard to the questions he appeared (and the sound wasn't great so maybe I missed something?) absolutely nothing of significance. It was just an arena for him to gripe about getting called a liar and Karla.
Guys, I love free speech and I understand this video creates strong emotions, but please try to keep your heads screwed on right and not be abusive.
Valya Vosovic Hah, no, I meant to each other!
Ryan Reed because of the tapes they found .
MC Grammar She was involved in the abductions and certainly after the first one, she knew what was going to happen to the second girl. Read lethal marriage if you want to know what those two were like. But, I feel she would not have been violent and I don't really think she was violent, but morally bankrupt she was. He doesn't even care. He is a very violent psychopath.
MC Grammar cause the autorathis when see tapes reconise that as bad deal, for them as obvius that she have same participation in the crimes and as not the victem as they soposed too
***** I can't even believe you're an adult; because you are one dumb fuck.
He actually says: “I don’t like my mind poisoned…”
"Did you ever get caught? No, never never. Why? I'm a deadly innocent guy." -Actual lyrics by Paul Bernardo. SMH Thank god he finally was caught. Him and his wife/accomplice are psychopaths. I hope he spends the rest of his life behind bars and I wouldn't mind if Karla gets served some vigilante justice.
“Did you kill (so and so)?”
“That’s a loaded question.”
Not really, no 😂
It is, because they're expecting him to prove a negative, which is impossible. THEY have to bring the proof of the affirmative position.
He should have been a salesman or a politician.
you ill be surprised how many politicians are pyschopaths
vendetacos *sociopaths
0 haha ye sociopaths, but why not psychopaths? They are so wealthy, they could kill or do horrible acts with a few of their connections and some $$. For example Einstein’s sex circle thing... power gives them choices
@@alexiscancun1619 exactly
I wonder what his job was. Psychos are often CEOS lawyers etc. I don't think he was that prestigious though. Not all psychos are violent either.
Wow! From the very beginning, the psychopath has taken total control of the interview. It's not about him being concerned he is perceived as a liar ... it is ONLY about him taking control away from the suits.
The Cops want something from him!! ( and he knows it ).They're kissing his ass and he's using that! They need him...He doesn't need them.
Clearly he’s just using his manipulation and full blown narcissism to blame, chastise and cause chaos. He’s loving the control he has over these cops.
Whoever thought to sit him at the end of the table like the head of a family is a clever guy,it's not an accident and it's to do with how he likes to be in control and feel powerful ,at least he admitted to the crime that an innocent guy was convicted of to get him freed,think how many guys are in jail who have been wrongly convicted but the real convict just thinks who cares!
Tom Watson probably very planned that this was done in a room with a window. You can see him glancing over. The illusion that helping might assist release.
What?
A lot of times those people that were falsely convicted were not very good people to begin with. They were still criminals and still put themselves in positions where law enforcement would be suspicious of them. They just didn't commit murder. They are villains, not monsters, but being a villain is putting yourself out there where you can be falsely accused.
Here in the states. If someone like Karla made a 12 year deal. She would be signing a piece of paper. If they find she wasn't 100% telling them the truth about everything. That deal would become null and void. Since the police found those tapes and saw she had lied. I don't know why they didn't charge her and take the deal off the table at that point.
It was supposed to have been null and void according to the deal she struck. For some reason they didn't follow through with that. I have stopped comparing Canada unfavorably/favorably to the US. Because the way justice is administered varies from state to state and in some states Paul would have been set free by now. In others, he'd be on death row.
Cyrus Barnaby I didn't think they had the death penalty anywhere in Canada?
They don't. But as a US citizen, I have seen many of my fellow countryman stating that "we know how to take care of the Paul Bernados, over here he would have gotten the death penalty." Not so. Only a handful of states still have the death penalty and of those, like my home state, NY...most of them haven't administered it in many years. Here in NY we let a child killer, Art Shawcross, go free only after about a dozen years. He was supposedly completely rehabilitated. He then became a serial killer in the Rochester area killing prostitutes. One of the only instances of a predator changing their victim types.
gojobuddy your amurika has way more psychopaths than us...Therefore harsher law is applied there for better safety of your citizens
I moved here to Florida. They do use the death penalty here.