Is Bill Cipher Still Scary? (Gravity Falls Video Essay)
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I think the scariest thing about him was the unspoken implications of his past & his full power. The show itself doesn’t focus much on his past, but him just brushing past his destruction of the 2nd Dimension as “liberation” is an incredibly unnerving line. Then there’s his full plan in Sock Opera that we hear about the Journal 3, where he wanted to fling Dipper’s body off the water tower and frame it as a suicide. And the most blatantly scary scene with him is in the finale, where he nearly kills Mabel “just for the heck of it”. It’s… definitely enough to make him at least a bit horrifying, even if he perhaps could have used more screen time to truly show how unhinged he could be.
Bill's insanity is something one should fear if he were real. I also noticed that Bill never hesitates (I might be wrong). He is such an interesting character who's backstory should've been explored on and I would love to see that exoskeleton when he was feeding
@@alexthegreat1395 same
@@alexthegreat1395 Bill is the representation itself of an all evil 2 dimentional character (literally) to be actually interesting.
Hey waht do you think of what this person said Because for one was due to the annoyance of Bill Cipher. Secondly, I found the characters to be extremely unlikable and dull. And thirdly, I found it to be dull.
You guys have No IDEA!!
I wouldn't say he's outright scary, just unnerving. Giving deer teeth to a kid was certainly unsettling, but not outright scary.
It's important to know that everyone has their own opinion, though!
I watch Bill Cipher rule34
@@bingusbongus3109 Now *_THAT_* is scary.
He's not scary, he's creepy. There's a difference.
How about when he switched the functions of every hole of Pacifica's father for his amusement?
I think Blendin was the perfect choice. Cause she knew he could control time. So him offering an endless summer is something he could actually do. She wouldn't believe anyone else who would offer that
ntm WHO WOULD EVEN PREDICT THAT?!
finally someone said it
Along with this, he is the only character with goggles that completely cover the eyes
Don't get how people are blaming Mabel when it was Bill being a just being a smart manipulator even Ford being fooled by Bill how someone like Mabel outsmart Bill
Bill DOES say “Stan Pines” instead of”Stanford,” so I feel like Bill always knew that he wasn’t engaging with the same Pines brother. Even if they didn’t intend to keep him as a recurring character, I think they kept the twins narrative consistent there.
I think it also implies Bill doesn't share the same concept and understanding of names compared to humanity since he likes to refer to Dipper and Mabel by their designation on the zodiac wheel (Dipper: Pine Tree, Mabel: Shooting Star, etc). When he was focusing on the order of "Enter Stan Pine's mind" he had that pensive look on his face before flashing to Stan's brand mark in order distinguish which "Stan."
Twin narrative was made during the 2nd season after reading fan theory.
This is the only logical conclusion.
@@tysolewizard8343 wdym by twin narrative exactly?
He reacts enthusiastically when Gideon suggests him to enter "Stanford Pine's" mind. It's what he wanted to do (again) all along.
However, he likely discovered over there that it was Stanley, not Stanford. And he might also have found out about what happened to Ford by scanning Stan's memories.
Late response, but to forward this, the same episode Bill was introduced in had Stanford reading a book and having his face covered in the background when Stanley was being beaten up in that boxing ring. There's also the first main hint (I believe) a few episodes before where they showed Stanford during the Time Travelling Pig episode where Dipper and Mabel briefly showed up during that snowstorm Stanford was in while still in the Mystery Shack. The Stan twin plan (aka 'Stan Plan' lol) was definitely still part of the narrative.
I think the scariest thing about Bill is that while he was overall a bit of a shallow villain they did do a good job of capturing how easily he could go from: "Mischievous, crazy triangle" to "Homicidal, Sadistic Maniac", like in weirdmaggedon when he went from . "Be cool, hide the time punch" and then immediately killed Time baby and dozens of time enforcement agents. Those transitions are what always got me.
Shallow in what sense?
@@timrosswood4259 Just that we don't get much of his actual backstory and that he isn't particularly complex. As Kitty says he's sort of just a kid with god powers.
@@jaohonaxa Bill Cipher is the Joker with god powers
@@jaohonaxa the thing i love about bill is that his backstory is very subtle and open to interpretation/theorizing. It would be weird if Bill would just randomly tell his tragic sob story.
He's literally a multidimensional one eye'd Dorito in a top hat that throws temper tantrums and hacks into and mods the animation and storyline files to change the whole story up when he don't like what the characters are doing. He's basically the illuminaughtii but a lot more likeable.
you seem to have missed the fact that bill was clearly just messing with everyone in his first appearance. he acted different because he was acting more weak
He was in the mindscape and the show seems to make it clear that Bill is limited by that. It’s the only way he can show himself without a physical form, but there’s still limitations without a 3D element.
I'm honestly kinda surprised that they were able to get away with some of his dialogue and actions. "Time to turn some children into corpses" in particular surprised me.
Well you could theoretically turn someone into a corpse without killing them, so I suppose that’s why it flies.
@@sud1881 Except that it's followed like a minute later with "I've got the kids! I think I'm gonna kill one of them now just for the heck of it!"
@@MagusMirificus that was only one time so it’s fine by disny standards
@@MagusMirificus Disney was fine w/ that but god forbid those police officers act a bit too gay-
@@saturnisgay69 Of course we can have an alien’s blood pour out of its wound and mouth, but god forbid, gay people? We can’t have the kids seeing *that!*
Come on kitty you can’t blame bill for doing what Gideon says in his first episode. Bill’s a deal maker, even the devil will do someone’s bidding for a deal, the intimidation doesn’t come around until he comes to collect.
I feel like Kitty Monk doesn't actually know how demons work, because a lot of her complaints about Bill's first appearance is how accommodating he is being. :/
@@TailsFan yea i personally don't think she actually analysing anything. Just talking about how she would of written bill
It was pretty obvious Bill wanted Gideon to open the portal, the deal seems pretty shit to Gideon, too.
Gideon gets the Shack, but once Bill gets to our world, Gideon will lose everything in Bill's onslaught.
I wouldn't say Bill was scary. Like many major Disney villains he was more so menacing but also fun to watch, just with some dark past implications and an immense amount of power.
He had the wit of Hades and the lurking intimidation of Maleficent.
I saw this on cartoon network never on disney hmmm
Shouldn't even be comparing though
Bill was never scary to me just funny but powerful
His humorous side kinda makes him scary since he can think of creative forms of torture
I’m your sixtynineth like
Yes, Bill knew about Stan and knew that that is who Gideon was talking about. When he said "Stanford" Bill first laughed and then went "Hey, wait," and then ran through different images related to Stan while saying "Stan Pines..." before he agreed to make the Deal with Gideon.
He wasn't creepypasta scary but he was threatening and that was something new.
26:00 Because Mabel didn't want summer to end and only Blendin could make a time bubble. They are on good terms now so it makes sense that he would help her.
I think that bill acted like this in ealer cus he was exited "to be finnaly back" and wanted to play a little with his powers. Then he realized that things may not be so eazy and turned into manipulated side.
When I was a kid he was terrifying to me. He haunted my dreams literally.
A couple of months ago I had a dream where I was slowly realising that the mansion I was in was on fire and I had to convince people to get out the building, and once I got out and thought I was safe, Bill showed up and started to break reality. Pieces of the world started to fall away leaving nothing but Bill, blackness, and the interface of the 3D modelling program Maya (kinda like that one episode of Gumball lmao). Funny to look back on but I was properly scared and convinced the world was ending when I was there… woke up with a start and everything 😆 It was very strange but kinda cool to experience what Ford went through, and just makes me feel more sorry for him 🥲
Oh no don't shake his hand if he comes back
@@harry-hp1je damn that sounds crazy
@@lavendernightshade5631 it was! You realise just how scary Bill can be when put in the situation of Ford and the people of Gravity Falls 😂
Same especially because I heard about the real statue I thought he could be real
I got the impression the summoning spell Gideon used gave him a level of control in this situation. Which is the only reason he has any sway in the end of season 1.
The bill cipher statue scene in weirdmaggedon was ABSOLUTELY terrifying to me when i was younger
I think that Bill allowing Gideon to push him around in Dreamscaperers makes more sense on the re-watches, tbh.
Think about it:
We learn Bill has no influence on the physical realm, at all.
Now he has Gideon, a pawn who DOES have influence on the physical realm, who might be able to help him escape the Dreamscape, and launch Weirdmageddon.
It makes sense that he would want to do what's necessary to not lose out on that. He can't just THREATEN Gideon. He presumably has no way to hurt him, so his threats would kind of fall flat. So the best option was to play along with him, and make sure Gideon sticks by his side as his physical-world pawn.
It's like you said:
Make them feel like they're in control, and then spring the trap
Thing is, Gideon cut him off before he could spring the trap. He was still in the 'Make him feel like he's in control' phase.
The other half of the deal that we didn't get to see, might have involved Bill outright possessing Gideon.
I think Bill in S1 wasn't scary, but slowly grew more intimating after Gravity Falls went on.
Is Bill scary? Well, by himself, not exactly.... At least not in my experience.
Its his motivations that makes him scary.
He got crazier and crazier until he ultimately got punched to death by a con man
I mean he's pretty creepy
Alex Hirsh made me scared of a triangle. Now that's skill.
5:45 it's funny you should mention that since it's been pretty much confirmed that Bill is like a toxic ex
Normal Brain: Bill was reincarnated as King after Gravity Falls.
Galaxy Brain: Bill was reincarnated after the show. His soul was split in two, so one one half became King while the other became Grim from Twisted Wonderland.
Well without him, the core/darcy, king Andreas, belos/witch hunter, and the collector couldn't run. I still find him to be a great antagonist.
Core is obscure villain. King Andrias should be there, even know he was introduced in season 2 and he has interesting ideas, but his backstory is presented rushed, hastily and with flaws. Toffee and Ludo are my favorite villains I don't want consider battle of mewni is canon, it's a beggining of felling from grace and it's overrated and bad, not only because of toffee's death) and what I really like about toffee besides his tipe, character, potential and design is how he was introduced. Unlike other disney big bad villains, who introducing in last two episodes (emperor belos) of firtst season, or introduced in the episode before the finale (bill cipher and non disney evil morty), or even appearing in season 2 (king andrias, core and lord dominator), not to mention each of their first seasons have 20, 21 or 22 . It's good that Svtfoe has 13 episodes in first season and toffee introduced in episode 8b and he got 4 episodes, unlike evil morty, who is like Bill Cipher introduced in episode before the finale (at least of 11 episodes but still one time) and he returns in season 3 after a long time.
Bill is just like Discord and The Collector
One likes to spread chaos
One likes to play and play by set rules
Who's the collector
The collector is from The owl house
Although he is humorous. Bill Cipher is terrifying from the view of a person in the universe of Gravity Falls.
Bill is scary, but is entertaining. It does seem if he wasn’t evil, he would be fun to hang out with.
He’s a lovable goofball, but he can be intimidating, like when he mocked dipper for not having a way to stop him after turning Stanford into a statue.
My personal theory is he would have survived in Stan's mind if he didn't recite that spell given his memories came back but his soul had already left stans mind before he could return so he's now in the boiling isles as kinv
I like how even Bill seems shocked by how easily he killed Time Baby.
i think there are 2 reasons that bill picked blendin
1 - it would be weird for anyone else outside the shack to know about this kind of stuff, and since blendin is from the future, which mabel does not know much about and messed with time travel, itd make sense for him to know about the rift
2 - the goggles hide bill's yellow eyes (he could hve possessed candy or smth but reason 1 is a thing so no)
Also because Mabel would trust him with making summer last forever.
My earliest memory of Bill Cipher was some guy doing an impression of him on CoD lobbies. A quote that always stuck with me was "Here's the sound of a puppies neck snapping" wild
+10 points for saying something bill cipher would say
No one saw Dippers eye are yellow because apparently you can't see that unless you look at his eyes sideways
I think the best adjective to describe Bill is "ominous." Until weirdmageddon, they actually use him somewhat sparingly. The few times he does show up, he shows to be extremely powerful, chaotic, but also calculatively manipulative.
It added an aura of mystery to him, which probably worked in his favor to seem like a threat.
How scary is Bill Cypher?
How tasty is Pizza?
Same answer
Italian?
I understood that reference
As a kid, I was *TERRIFIED* of a Bill so much that I tried to avoid Gravity Falls for a while just from the paranoia I had of potentially seeing him unexpectedly in an episode; not just an image of him in the background, but actually him. But as I matured, I grew to freakin love his character more and more despite his terrifying nature. It’s easy to see why people like me cite Bill as one of Disney’s top animated villains of the 2010s to now (yes, Toffee’s included, but he’s one of the good things of Star vs). And that’s actually a question I have: when comparing Bill with Dominator from Wander Over Yonder, those two are incredibly beloved and kind of fulfill the same “I wanna destroy everything and kill everyone because it’s fun” trope, and they would totally be friends. But I have to ask, is Bill _slightly_ more justified than her?
His reasoning was because he hated the restrictions of his dimension and wanted exceed what was possible, and the most sure fire way to achieve that was to liberate both his dimension and our [Gravity Falls’s] dimension. While his execution was flat-out psychotic and his reasoning - to many - is not enough to justify it, I don’t remember Dominator have ANY reason for why she was committed genocide everywhere other than “because it’s fun.” That’s what Wander was trying to figure out during their last few encounters before the show ended and we never knew if it was really because she had no true friends. Not hating on Dominator by any means; she’s freakin awesome and her “Bad Guy” song makes me wanna see her and Billie Eilish do a duet, but it just came to mind. So what do you guys think???
I'm very excited about this he's my favorite character in the show💛
me three!
NOT Only is Bill Cipher is the Ultimate EVIL but still Scary as well and the Best Villain of Gravity Falls
I'd be afraid if I ever walked and saw Bill near my location
He can literally warp someone's face and make them feel horrible agony
I'm not fucking with that
Gravity Falls aired when I was in high school, so I was never scared by him like a lot of younger Gen Z were back in the day. However, I do think he's unsettling, especailly when he does shit like giving someone deer teeth or threatening to kill the pines twins, a well written villain and entertaining to watch.
Appreciated the constant references to the Billford subtext lol.
15:58 one of my favorite theories is that Dipper was so tired that he fell asleep without turning off the computer, so Bill altered the dream to make him think the data would be erased, thus making the deal
My (very unrealistic) hope for the owl house is that in the final episode King is fighting Belos and the collector and he is about to die and all the sudden a giant axolotl comes out of nowhere and says something along the lines of “you became a better person here have your powers and memories back” and we get a gravity falls owl house crossover movie
never gonna happen but man i would love that
I find it funny looking back on this now that joke about how he doesn't go to therapy and now we know from the book of bill that you stuck in therapy
Bill is scary the same way a bored and depressed teenager with godlike powers is.
He messes with people and does all the things he does because he's trying to forget his pain. Us puny mortals are just collateral damage he doesnt really care much about as lower life forms.
bill might be alex's greatest creation, but clamantha is alex's greatest character hes voiced
The deal with Gideon is an interesting subject. For one, the fact Bill acts and differently can be taken as Alex and the Crew experimenting having not yet established his true character that we'd get later on, something that a substantial amount of characters experience after all.
One the other hand it can equally be taken as Bill intentionally acting as such, subverting his role...playing things differently to play a little into Gideons expectations of him being a Demon while also giving him a shot of what kind of guy he's dealing with. Pulling out the deer teeth was most likely a test by Cipher, the fact Gideon reacted the way he did confirmed to him he had to slow a bit more down akin to Ford which shows in his calmer attitude in the later bits of the episode and his attitude shortly after, becoming more refined and focused on the subject at hand which is of course their bargain.
It should also not be forgotten that it is his first deal in Gravity Falls in a long time so of course he'd want to start with a fresh take, if only for his own entertainment or to benefit "business" relationships, take your pick.
Lastly the whole "lots of things" imagine montage was in my opinion a deliberate move, including the distorted voice once he realized Gideons desires, tempting him with the promise of more should he ever require it...leading to the small dudes consideration.
I mean there was nothing to suggest Gideon would entertain the idea of another deal based on his reactions in the episode yet we see him go so far in the Prison, knowing that Cipher still held promise even if he screwed up a single time.
Or idk, that's just my idea on the take, obviously others will have their own, just thought i'd throw it out while im at it for good measure.
Bill himself is not _necessarily that Evil,_ if you know he can only affect you via a Deal - it's *his potential* once he _has_ made a deal that's terrifying. Anyone not knowing what they're getting into when interacting with him is *opening a Pandora's Box of Horrors* that will drive them to Insanity, and Bill knows _exactly_ which buttons to push to convince someone to _shake his Hand..._
Even Today, fans of Gravity Falls are speculating _what Form_ Bill Cypher is going to have when *the Axolotl* reincarnates him - and many are looking at *The Owl House* as the World he's come back in. Many believe he's *King, the baby Titan* as a chance for redemption - though there's still _a high possibility_ he could've also become *The Collector:* He has to make Deals to manipulate others; he's forced to interact through the Mindscape; he mostly exists as a Two-Dimensional Entity and has limited time in Three-Dimensional Space; and if he breaks into Reality, his power can destroy - _or rewrite_ - entire Dimensions!
The way she said "Alex, it's been a while." makes it sound like he's her ex boyfriend that left and has just returned.
"We know little about his backstory"
Alex; haha book of bill go WEEEEEE
One of the best Disney villains ever made.
The reason for the white void I believe is Stan had incredible control of his mind. Lots of practice with mental tricks given his trickster status. It's said there's many kinds of intelligences and Stan is just as sharp as Ford, just in different ways. So it's not unfeasible that Stan mentally built himself an arena as they came up with their plan to better trap Bill at the end.
19:25 it feels like one of the Writers must have a deep love for The Muppets for them to do a Muppets Joke in the credits
I think that Bill is mostly a character that is supposed to be somewhat insane as well as smart. He knows how to make people do what he wants. And if that means he has to be a little helper for a little while, then that means he gets what he wants in the end. He's very smart and makes sure he gets what he wants, no matter who or what is in his way.
Have to mention this, but the reason Stan's mind was empty at the end of Weirdmageddon 3 was because that was the state Bill left it in Dreamscaperers, a blank white state
The worst mistake I ever made was thinking I could handle my depression alone, without any meds. I'm glad you got some help.
Kitty monk: Dude eat a Snickers actually eat an entire box
Me: Best quote of the week
10:26 NOT Only is Bill Scary But is knower of all information of the universe
The character in supernatural that they wanted to get rid of very quickly was a guy named Castiel he was only supposed to be there for the 4th season and that was it jump to 10 to 25 years later he was in all the seasons up to season 15 in some way shape or form
Wouldn't be scary if a golden Doritos spawned right next to you and shouted "BUY CRYPTO SCKERS!!!"
Fun fact, billford is now
cannon
He was unnerving and fun, but nowadays I actually do find him quite scary even if his characterisation is inconsistent throughout the show. Even if he's upfront about his sadism and powers in little ways right in the beginning and really only kicks that off later in season 2, the reason I find him so scary now is the manipulation. Even if it isn't always as successful as one would expect from him, the show makes it pretty clear in my opinion that the main characters are already resistant to him simply because of how they find out about him and Dipper is already skeptical about everything, but he still gets tricked one time and I feel like it's enough to make Bill very intimidating and then how it's implied that he also had to convince Blendin to let him in to be able to possess him and *then* manipulate Mabel into giving him the Rift. The way he speaks and acts, even when he's outright hostile, always makes it seem like he's right and is so simply because he's too powerful for anyone to really do anything about it. I find Bill scary because he's so manipulative, his powers only amplify it. I've had to be around and deal with manipulators since then and so rewatching the show, especially season 2, Bill is really fucking scary to me. He might be inconsistent and messy but that doesn't lessen the effect for me at al. If anything, his early portrayal of weakness, no matter that it wasn't intended to be interpreted as such, could be seen as another form of manipulation to get people's guard down so when he ups the anti, people would be overoverconfident about being able to outsmart him. His later unapologetic sadism just makes it more of an effect for me, that he'd just stopped giving a shit if he was seen for the evil he is because he already has (almost) absolute control over the situation. Sure, it wasn't intended to be seen like this, but that how multiple rewatches have left me to think about it.
Could you do a video of your thoughts on McGucket? He is one of my favorite characters, and he's super underrated. I'd love to see him getting more recognition.
We'll meet again
Don't know where
Don't know when
But I know we'll meet again some sunny day...
I can confirm yes because immediately after the owl house finale, if watching it on broadcast, the second the episode ended there was an IMMEDIATE bill jumpscare at the start of Weirdmageddon
Something that kind of occured to me a while back:
You know how bullshit it was that Stan's memory came back through "the power of love", arguably ruining the sacrificial aspect right there at the end?
Yeah... "I invoke the ancient power that i may return!" said the dream demon. Maybe it really wasn't the bs "friendship and love" hax afterall.
So true Billford literally writes itself lmao
I will point out when Gideon says “I want you to enter the mind of Stanford Pines”, Bill confirms the name as “Stan Pines” conveniently leaving out the differing ending of the ‘Stan’ name (and shows images of Stanley’s past i think)
I always figured his story was far too dark to air on the disney channel
Which is fitting because of all of the disturbing weird things that happen jn the show
Like something much more disturbing lurks just beneath the surface and we only see bits of it
0:40 about the "he won't go to therapy" thing...
It’s kinda funny how you said that bill and ford dated a year ago and now it’s cannon lmao.
Bill must have known about Stan because he was in Ford’s mind all the time. Plus, he always proclaims that he knows all
he was more comical than scary to be honest
More chaotic evil than anything he reminds me of Lucifer from supernatural he has his moments where he goes between good evil relatable and just an overall pop culture phenomenon
Yo Kitty monk it's all right honey it's your channel you get this stuff out when you want to and we'll be happy to watch no matter what
Yes, when this showed aired it was one of the only things that could creep me out, the face hole rearrangement, the throne of eternal agony, the dark side of marble land. And those are just parts of weirdmagedon.
I was on Zoloft. It made me alexithymic, less creatively motivated, feel less hateful toward my enemies, less anxious/more trusting of strangers, more normal sleep, more ok with feeling shitty/sick/in pain, and unable to get a caffeine high.
I actually felt pretty similar to this when I had Omicron.
Yeah baby! That's what I've been waiting for! Delayed gratification is working in overdrive, rn. Well worth the wait.
Btw, broom with blue hair? Damn, little shade toss at Rick in Gravity falls.
Also hope you doing alright 👍
Did anybody else notice that the time travel guy sounds like Morty?
They have (had) the same voice actor
you seem to forget that demons/devils are often charming, accommodating and even outright attractive in order to get what they want. They have to be.
Also Blendon was the perfect choice. He can manipulate time to an extent so it isn't hard to believe he can create time bubbles. Plus nobody else would be able yo actually make such a thing so she wouldn't believe it unless it was Blendon
Bill also definitely knew it was Stanley, he just wanted to lead Gideon on
Fun Fact. The Joker from DC comics and the Daleks from Doctor Who were originally meant to be one off villains.
"Mabel never grows bc she never gave up anything"
*Mabel gives up her crush and reputation and her hard work on the play*
But she just did....?
Also that grammar check was so petty lmao
I can think of a being who's probably stronger than Bill...maybe even more so than the Collector.
Mr. Gold/Rumpelstiltskin (alias the Dark One)
I think the only reason Bill picked the Time Traveler was because there was a chance that power over time could be leveraged to get the portal and they knew Blendin.
I never thought Bill was scary. I always thought he was a funny villain. I disagree about wanting to learn more about Bill since the character is supposed to be pure chaos. That's kinda why the Joker doesn't have a backstory. Some things are best left to the imagination.
Isn’t it funny that it’s been confirmed that Ford and Bill did have a thing
Oh you think bill wont go therapy? Hahahaha
Gravity falls is more like the simpsons then any other show
Bill cipher is most like sideshow bob, a good villain but he stoped being scary after his first appearance
I just realized something:
Ford didn’t have to erase Stan’s mind. All he had to do was put Bill Cipher into the memory gun, fire it at Stan, and boom. It still works because Bill is inside Stan’s head, making him a part of his mind.
How would that even work? How would Ford even get Bill inside the memory gun in the first place?
@@M4x_P0w3r
>Bill gets in stans head
>Ford types "Bill Cipher" into the memory gun
>Ford shoots stan with the memory gun, erasing all memories of bill cipher and bill cipher only, including, consequently, bill cipher himself off stans head
>day saved :]
No, that just makes Stan forget that Bill exists, leaving him vulnerable for possession. To destroy Bill entirely, you had to burn the house down, so to speak.
@@mati28287 The memory guns erases only memories. The reason why Bill was defeated was because Stan's mind collapsed with him inside.
@@M4x_P0w3r but we don’t really know the full extent of the memory gun and it’s limitations though, just that it removes memories. It could kill off Bill, we just don’t know
The collector from the owl house reminds me of Bill
the Collectors kinda like if Bill Cipher was an iPad kid instead of a sadistic triangle
I actually heard that the golden eyes are only there for the audience and the characters can inly see them by looking from a certain angle
21:37 I disagree. If someone is willing to dump you over a play going wrong they aren't worth your time. Kissing puppets doesn't make him imperfect it's his snobbery.
I wouldn't mind throwing him into a room with the Collector. Something tells me he'd get annihilated the second he stabs the Collector in the back.
Man I came super late to this video. Great analysis again KittyMonk, looking forward to more
25:50 because if anyone else came to Mable with a offer she would have less of a reason to believe they could help her and she would be more suspicious of how anyone else knows about the orb.
Blendin’s offer seemed like the best solution to her problem and was believable coming from a literal time traveler and she has seen the tech they have so it would be easy enough to believe he could do what he says he would do.
Sure it’s still suspicious he knows about the orb because he would have to be spying on them to know about it but that would be the same for everyone who comes to Mable knowing about it .
Bill is something entertaining to watch
TV show villains like BIll Cipher should be in those group shouts along with Hook , Cruella , Hades , Scar , Jafar , ShadowMan and Gothel
I I’ve actually heard the theory that bill likes pain because he has self sabotaging tendencies
"Bro eat a snickers not one *DEVOUR THE ENTIRE BOX OF SNICKERS*"
Grade S meme right there
Hey Kitty Monk, glad to see you again 😁 ~Alastor
I never saw his and Ford's relationship as romantic. Gross. And yeah, he's an awesomely horrifying villain.
It’s queerplatonic, not romantic.
34:35 Yes, Ford wiped it all away, but then his mind came back at the end and so what's stopping Bill from being restored as well?