I suspect that actual business owners are terrified that the bad press will result in tourists avoiding Spain. While meanwhile the true "invasion" is not of people who spend money and leave after a week, but of people who arrive unwanted and never leave, and make you pay for their upkeep. Curiously the latter are not receiving any bad press.
@@Yannickille Colonialists invaded weaker nations who resisted, but they eventually left, leaving behind the benefits of modern civilization. Whereas today's Third World migrants are invading stronger nations who could but won't resist, and they will never leave, and bring problems and zero benefits, aside from cuisine (but recipes exist already).
Of course it is the tourists causing the housing shortage, nothing to do with the illegals. Blame the Government not the people bringing revenue into the country.
@@EndorFine-h3r that's not true. Millions of Americans leave the north to stay in Florida for the winter. They travel from places further than those Europeans coming to Spain have to travel. They need housing. Florida makes it work.
Happens in the uk too, people from abroad buying up british homes, leaving the locals unable to afford to live where they grew up...its NOT just spain.
Only a few people buying homes in Uk , the bigger problem is migrants arriving in Uk with no money and being put in hotels and then put in homes paid for by the taxpayers. This is the real reason why house prices are going up more
@@mariabarco7226houses are unaffordable for British people because we have over a million migrants arriving every year , most of them with no money , they are not buying homes but living in houses paid for by British taxpayers
five teen minit citeez, progressing to as u said it, not allowed to leave your zone, then comes the mk of the beest just like the Bible stated in Rev 13:16, its coming
@@mariabarco7226 It goes to all businesses connected to the hospitality industry, those who are employed by such businesses, and the multiplier effect for non-hospitality businesses and their employees. Plus, tourists add diversity lol.
The difference being that it normally take me 2 hours to fly to Spain but it can be close to 5 hours sometimes to fly to parts of Greece, otherwise I'd go to Greece more... That's the big advantage Spain has over Greece to British tourists.
@@mariabarco7226 You seem to forget Covid when the hospitality industry in Spain which makes up a large portion of Spain's income ground to a halt! How quick one is to forget!
British aren’t big spenders in Spain . Always looking for an English full breakfast and cheap lager. Cheap beer and hen parties . Need more EU tourists
@@dantownsend4246You're referring to very old and out of date data there... It's changed a lot, look at the data for 2024... The average expenditure per trip was €1,260 in 2024, up by more than 13% compared to the same period last year... The daily average expenditure per British holidaymaker was €153, a 5.67% increase from 2023... Holidaymakers from the UK were the highest total spending demographic in Spain, followed by Germans at €1.5 billion.... So the Brits are the big spenders in 2024... Even past old data like yours wasn't really accurate anyway because Brits book a lot more All Inclusive holidays than other country's tourist's so the spending is front-loaded but still goes into Spain... That's been changing though, with more self-catering holidays booked by Brits and also Brits spending a lot more in 2024 with the British now the biggest spenders in Spain on a total number and also on a per capita basis!
Went to Barca last year and the hotel was a refugee shelter, managed to get a refund, never again will i go back , they don’t want paying tourists they want the other ones
Wrong target. They have to protest directly to their governments! Rent controls! Model change and do it quickly. The protesters also need to target the big money propping these governments up.
@@rosafuster8376 They have not made effective changes that work. They need to make comprehensive changes to the whole system instead of tinkering at the edges.
I wanted to employ a Carpenter\ Joiner full time, I consulted my accountant, he said I would have to pay him €18,000 per year ( due to the agreement with the unions , “ el convenio “, fine I thought . He would take home after tax €13,000 , €1,083 each month . However I as the employer would have to pay various other taxes and his social security amounting to a total of € 26,000 ! I didn’t do it in the end , but , in effect the lowest paid in this country are taxed at 50% !!!!! Let that sink in 😊
If his gross pay is €18,000 per year, then he'll pay about €2,000 in income tax (IRPF) depending on the comunidad autónoma. He'll pay about another €1,200 a year in social security. Any other deductions are very small by comparison, so over the year, he should take home about €14,500. If he's only receiving €1,083 per month, then they're retaining too much and he'll get a rebate at the end of the year. (This is quite common in many tax regimes.) The employer has other costs, of course. The big one is employer's social security contributions, which can be about 30% of the gross salary, in this case 0.3 * €18,000 = €5,400. It's quite a lot for a small business to pay, but it's the cost of sick pay, parental leave and one of the best state pension schemes in Europe (especially when adjusted for cost of living). I guess the rest in your example is made up by liability insurance, accountant's fees and bank charges. You'll have to pay these when running a business in any country. My point is that you have to separate what is the income tax that a worker pays from their salary (in this case about 11%) from what are the business costs of having employees. If it's for a small project, you're almost definitely much better off hiring a carpenter on a freelance basis, whereby they take responsibility for their own tax, social security, insurance and associated management and accounting costs. This is how this works probably everywhere in the world.
@@frmcfyou don’t get it at all. If the employer can afford to pay 26,000 as the cost of having the employee, it doesn’t matter at what point it’s being taxed (before payout by an employee tax on the business, or after payout via income tax on the employee) all of that money could theoretically go to the employee so the government is keeping 50% if they only receive 13k net when the company is paying 26k
And then the employee has to pay 21% IVA (VAT) on many purchases from their salary. No wonder the Spanish stay so poor. The government steals from the workers.
Spain has the same problem as Ireland house prices and rents out of reach of the local people and there is a bubble in housing which is driven by the EU for the rich and also many Chinese have bought houses but never live in them.
i have owned a property in spain over forty years and spend my main holidays there i must have spent probably over a million pounds there in my life time? but i now get treated as a nuisance yes i will sell my property and get out while the going is good? and i hve noticed how arrogant some spanish have become but they love my money but no more ADIOS
@@davidparvez4972the Spanish are entitled as their economy is almost nonexistent and they get constant handouts from the productive countries of the EU.
Being from Spain, from a family that travels a lot ( now and growing up), and have lived in different countries, I don’t have anything against tourism. Many cities couldn’t survive without it, but we have to make sure that locals can survive too. I I agree when you say that the protests are against the government… the rules, not the tourists. Except the obnoxious behavior from protesters in Barcelona. I liked your comment about “Tourists using the country as a toilet”, and that’s what locals might complain about. That reminded me of the first time we took my husband to Benidorm, and he didn’t like it at all. My family, from Madrid loves Benidorm. After a couple visits, he learned to like Benidorm for its charm of old town , and beauty. He didn’t like when he saw all the drunk, rude, tourists at first. I told him that I appreciate people that love my country, and I don’t have anything against them, the opposite, but I don’t like that behavior either
I hitch hiked round Spain with two New Zealand friends, in 1962. Before tourism. Still under Franco. Its was so beautiful, I am so glad I saw it then. No one spoke English; the people were welcoming, kind and incredibly helpful. Also, very very poor. I remember staying in tiny fishing villages, which have become concrete high rise nightmares. Spain grasped at the prospect of tourism to rebuild and enrich the economy. They encouraged the flood of low budget holidaymakers. Bit late to complain about it now. I would suggest they ban the influx of cheap all-in holiday packages. From all countries, don't just blame the British!
It's more expensive to go though... Flights and hotels are normally more expensive than Spain so you're not gaining anything financially... Also, if you're concerned about saving money, you shouldn't be booking holidays abroad anyway!
Before, tourism was about sun and sand, now tourism has reached the cities and with it the tourist apartments that leave Spaniards unable to rent. Another thing is the overcrowding that must be regulated, as always the fault of the politicians.
Just make it illegal for tourists to stay anywhere other than hotels. Then, if the hotels wish to price them out, they can, and the area will suffer. Or hotels can be reasonable, and it can be win/win.
I've been welcome in Spain many times, particularly northern Spain, Asturias, Cantabria, Galicia. I stay in small hotels, eat in quiet places, strive to meet the people and listen to their lives. With rare exception, the people I meet are pleased to have my business. The same people express extreme dismay at the number of illegals that have arrive in Spain and caused tremendous horror, destruction, and cost. I'm not sure why gov'ts in Europe are allowing millions to swarm in and take over entire neighborhoods and towns. This is not a benefit in any way. Let's not lie about it. Thank you.
I cant see how taxing cruise ship passengers for staying less than 12 hours has any connection to locals affording housing costs. Surely its the best way to visit, they spend money ashore in cafes, restaurants, bars, and shops, use taxis buses to go sightseeing. Then after a long day return to their beds on board the ship. The ports make money and provide employment too. Win win all round. Housing cost more almost everywhere these days, it's not just a spain problem
You're forgetting it's not a single cruise ship. It's day in and out for most of the year. A d 12 hour cruise tourists aren't the only tourists. Go tell it to the landlords and outside owners that mysteriously let the apartment rental prices triple, or out everything up to Airbnb. Housing costs are also regional due to demand; where the highest driver of demand in tourist areas? Tourism! Maybe listen to people and what they are experiencing instead of telling them what they should think.
I agree that cruise passengers are not responsible for pressure on housing. They are separate issues, but both very real problems. Spend per visitor from cruise ships is very low, for exactly the reasons that you've said: they don't stay in hotels, and probably only eat one meal on shore, if that. They clog up the streets - we could debate how big a problem that is. They tend to engage only minimally with the place and its culture. The port makes some money, but the argument is that it doesn't filter through to local businesses, compared to other types of tourism. Having said that, there are significant economic benefits to being a home base for cruises, since many passengers will fly in and spend time before their cruise starts: staying in hotels, eating out, etc. The ships themselves are very polluting and go against climate change objectives: "Don't tell me I have to switch to an electric car when one of those things is sitting in the port with its engines burning more fuel in a second than my car uses in a month." etc. Any additional employment in the port itself due to cruise ships is minimal: maybe one or two admin workers in the port, a bit more work for local coach companies, of course, but it's not like the port authority is hiring hundreds or thousands more workers because a few cruise ships are coming in.
That’s not true. They spent there money on the boat. They paid for food and drinks they even have shops on board. Maybe they eat an ice cream. But they come with so many on shore it’s overwhelming
Tourists are not to blame for lack of affordable housing, that blames lies on wages not increasing and the government not having a policy of providing affordable housing. Blaming tourists will do nothing and the Spanish should be very careful about what they wish for, without the tourists they are doomed!
True. But many also deliberately fail to mention the elephant in the room. In 2023 the net immigration into Spain was more than 700.000 people. You need a lot of houses for that many people! The largest group of immigrants? Moroccans.
Long time, no see Stuart. I'm currently in Spain with my middle daughter who just graduated from high school. It's her graduation present. We started in Naples...(and let's just say that Naples was "sus", even though I met some really nice people in the few days we were there.) We then went to Rome, where after a couple of days, my daughter got a very bad case of food poisoning, and we were pretty much stuck in the hotel for the remainder of the five days. After a hard day of travel, we finally arrived in Barcelona, where my friends picked us up and brought us to their home in Vinaroz for two weeks plus. I love this town, and the nearby areas such as the town/city of Peñíscola. We will finish our tour of Spanish next week in Valencia, Madrid, and Cádiz, before returning to Rota and home. It looks like you are in Portugal, and I am going to miss you again. Oh well, maybe the next trip. 😊. Take care Stu, and the rest of Spain Speaks. I've missed y'all.
I think that the villas that foreigners buy are out of reach for local people. One can argue that the cheaper properties could have been built there instead, but what would be the use of them if those resort villages don't have any jobs? The reason people move to the larger cities is not because there is no place to live but because there are no jobs.
Very true. The segment of luxury properties is separated from the market for normal people, it is just a low instinctual behaviour to blame the people who are better off. Locations of things like Marbella or Sotogrande aren't even appealing for average blue collar worker, there are no jobs and no industry, and the idea that someone would build affordable apartments for them in those locations is just unrealistic. The issue are rather the foreigners buying/renting average priced apartments in the popular cities. But again, nobody is entitled to live in city centre. Although, parasitic models like AirBNB should have been forbidden 10 years ago.
I've literally just watched a video before this one, on the channel Mallorca under the sun, where we literally saw the posh English presenter talking to the protesters, who were all very civilised, and were all clear that they're not opposed to tourism, but just want a more sustainable model. Im sorry to say, anyone who gets upset with people for saying they can't afford to live in their own homeland because of wealthy people pushing prices up, is just an arse.
I feel for the citizens of Mallorca because its obvious they are not seeing the benefits of tourism and some of my fellow Brits do indeed treat that lovely Island as a toilet. Bulldoze Magaluf and build affordable homes for the locals. I would like to see bars close at midnight which is plenty late enough.
Corporate power is the problem. Billions of $$$ into the hands of a few while our countries and lifestyles are systematically broken down in order to serve their interests, not ours.
They seem to ignore the Spanish tourists. That seems to be fine. A huge amount of Spanish from outside Barcelona visit there, they are the biggest group. They are also the group that buy the most property there. Yet, they are ignored by these protests that seem targeted to Northern Europeans and Brits especially.
Im from Spain, and all I have to say is, if you dont empathise with the locals and understand our claims, please go to Greece or somewhere else, but Im afraid that soon they will start doing the same...
I think most tourists are saying "your claims are for your own local government, not us". Tourists would rather pay less for lodging too. But if a critical mass of tourists say "OK, we'll visit somewhere else instead", then you guys will be in bad shape job-wise, and might even turn into people who move somewhere else where you may not be welcomed.
When tourism is an economic driver it should be an important ministry of government and well regulated. If the government has not been addressing the negatives of tourism and it's effect on society they should take notice now. For this reason i have respect for the protestors as they have recognized the quicker way to getting the powers that be to do their jobs.
There are NO Ex-Pats iliving n Spain!!! They are Immigrants, Economic Immigrants! not unlike the people crossing the "English" channel every day! (La Manche, Àrmel Kanal)
I can’t wait to leave. I had 5 police come and tell me I couldn’t train in a public gym area with my dogs. Threatening violence and bullying. I checked with the council and the police station and they said I was fine. These police are errand boys for the wealthy.
With Europe being so overcrowded with tourists I recommend visiting more underrated destinations like South America, I recommend Buenos Aires the secret city people need to discover
This is a global phenomenon across all western nations. These nations take in mass migration with huge handouts while also allowing businesses to buy real estate away from people, letting nimbys prevent new construction, and basing property tax on house value which lets government artificially raise the value constantly to get more money. It's the perfect storm. China has the opposite problem as millions of houses and apartments sit empty. Tourism is such a tiny factor but it's an easy scapegoat for people to always be xenophobic and blame the foreigner (blaming mass migration is not blaming the foreigner, it's blaming governments that allow it to get out of hand). Getting rid of airbnbs just makes hotels sky rocket in price and people will go back to running off grid inns that are unregulated and undocumented like before.
I am against cheap mass tourism: collapse of public services, cleanliness, health, security, WATER, saturated sewage treatment plants pouring human shit directly into the sea water, etc. We live here, since generations ago, people who have nothing to do with the hotel chains, who do not want to live with ill-mannered drunks that you do not want in your countries, shall I go on counting?
Tourism isn't the problem, its a lack of social housing that's the biggest problem. 40% of spanish jobs are linked to tourism, drive the tourists away and te economy will tank. Youth unemployment is chronic in Spain and I've never known the number of Spanish people in the UK who are working retail jobs like now. Blame greedy politicians, not the people actually bringing money into your country.
@@orcharddweller1109 You can do camping or rent a flat in advance, it is more like renting flats or air b and b, obviously you have to do it in advance, if we talk about extension, there is obviously more rooms available in the whole Spain than in those two places, it is just a matter of searching for a different type of vacation rather than spend the day searching for Mateo Castellanos in a Hotel Pool in Benidorm, not worth it.
I am a resident in Tenerife. In order to control mass tourism the government has to limit the beds available, this will bring the prices for a stay up and at the same will higher de quality of the tourist, so much needed in Tenerife. The higher income with this plan gives the possibility to putting up wages, better economy and open up housing for the locals.
Who knows. It's clear something has to be done on it asap. If wrong, at least we'd know something to improve later. Perhaps an easier and quicker step would be to provide beds to the locals first. Ningún Cabildo is going to limit tourisms but that simple thing is in their hands. A friend of mine from our childhood is resident in Tenerife, owns three appartments and gets her good living from renting them. She only has to speak English, which does with English accent, and clean the appartments between tourists. There are locals less local than others.
Overall, I agree that they should limit the cheap drunk tourists, get rid of AirBNBs in hotspots etc. Those are the things that are the biggest inconvenience for local Spaniards, as they raise rents in average income neighbourhoods, and bring all the problems associated with cheap party tourism. Disincentivizing wealthy immigrants through wealth tax is pathetic though. Building new villas outside cities has little effect on prices of some average apartments, it is its own economic bubble, and average person will never be able to afford a villa. The effect of rich immigrants are through and through positive, most countries compete for them. Yet, Spain wants to tax foreigners even on their wealth made and kept outside of Spain. It looks quite delusional, as they don't like the cheap drunk tourists, which I do sort of understand. But at the same time they are ideologically opposing the wealthy ones as well. But at the end, the entire situation seems to be extremely exaggerated. 90% of Spaniards are still very friendly, and if something bad happens to you in Spain it is unlikely to be some of those anti-tourism protesters, and rather an illegal migrant from Maghreb.
It isn't the tourists fault that their government is taking advantage. It is time for the people to encourage local businesses and growth, only buy local. I've visited Spain twice to visit my son, I could see myself living somewhere quiet with local amenities, because of all the recent problems for foreigners, I don't think I'll visit again.
I have to make a comment regarding the mobility scooters. I’m a power wheelchair user due to a postviral illness that caused cardiac issues. Something disable people are CONSTANTLY met with: “You don’t look disabled enough to need XYZ.” It’s exhausting. Many of us have invisible illnesses. Not all wheelchair, walker, cane users are seniors. Many are young like myself. You’d look at me and never know I have cardiac issues. Please refrain from statements like “maybe they [mobility scooter users] were too lazy or just too drunk…” It’s hurtful and makes our lives very difficult. Being disabled can be hard on its own. But having to constantly justify and defend your disability? It’s untenable. Please be kind & don’t make assumptions.
Hi Stu, I must admit we did a tour of Mallorca last year in march . We started in the east and ended in the west. Even though it was off season most resorts (we went everywhere almost) were quiet but did notice lots of other Northern European living there as we were mistaken often for them. They are driving up the house prices but on the other hand there were lovely art and home shops benefitting from them also cafe bars etc. the busiest place I found was Soller! A nightmare to get around.
That’s the key though isn’t it..NORTH .not as many tourists go to the north..🤷♀️Plus Northerners are more friendly where ever you go ( except America ) 😂
I have a two week vacation coming up (Barcelona, Valencia, Seville and Madrid). I'm looking forward to it. I do speak Spanish, so hopefully I can fit in like a local haha.
Ok I get overtourism, it’s bad, but aren’t most businesses going to suffer that rely on tourism? Hotels? Restaurants? It doesn’t really make sense? I think if it all stopped tomorrow, people might be saying the opposite?
First time going to Spain was in 2022 and fell in love with your country. I wish to go back to vacation but if I am not welcomed , I can always spend my hard earned dollars next door like Portugal or Italy, maybe even Greece! lol
The exaggeration is “I’m not going back” do people realize that the same protests are happening in other countries. It started in Italy. Again it’s against the rules , but you can always find a few idiots like in Barcelona
Been in Spain (Malaga area) since 2010. Loved it for a long time, but now I'm brainstorming getting out of here. Most of the coasts have been entirely ruined, with the exception of Costa de la Luz (I still love that place), though I don't see that lasting very long as Zahara de los Atunes (which is surrounded by "protected" land) is currently seeing massive expansions. Not to mention the tiny road going from Gibraltar to Tarifa is also currently being expanded into a proper motorway, which will entice tourists going into the area, as previously the only proper road into the area was through Sevilla.
Not wanted - don’t go, what a rude behavior of the Spanish to treat the tourists that way. Housing is going up all over Europe due to a false migration politic and rich people that can’t get enough, its not only happening in Spain
That's how tax works - government charges you for something you're doing. Those that don't like the tax can chose not to do it or do it any pay the tax. 🤷♂
It’s amazing that Covid restrictions have only been over for 2 years when No travel could happen. Now that the money is flowing again with Tourism, how quickly they forget.
@@paulwhite3489They hardly spend money. They eat and drink mostly on the ship. On top of that they pollute. Cruiseships are some of the biggest polluters on the planet.
@@miamithijs3579 Still, cruise ships are a net economic benefit, and do not influence rental prices or any other prices for locals. As for pollution, that may be true, though those cities tend to have big ports with lots of ships already. I think the objection is just the visuals of seeing mobs of cruise ship passengers on the loose. Now as for Air BnB, which you mentioned, just introduce new laws and regulations about what locals can do with their apartments (leasing or subleasing). The tourists can stay in hotels, and then there is no impact on local rents or prices.
@@richatlarge462 Imagine a city that caters to locals and imagine a city that caters to tourists. Different shops/restaurants will be there. And if there are too many tourists cruiseships should be cut first.
It’s to bad that some people from anywhere else can’t respect a country’s traditions and way of life. Whenever we have been to Germany or Switzerland, we prefer small local hotels and local restaurants, and do our best to be respectful of that country’s traditions. We would love to see what Spain is like, but understand your current issues with tourism.
Hi Stu. I have to say that your remark about "British tourists", running amok is false and rather ignorant. Speaking to a young lady recently who lives in Malaga, she informed me that the worst behaved tourists (at least in her opinion after living there all of her life), were French, Spanish and Moroccan. Your misleading and biased views really aren't helping the current Ill feeling towards tourists that we are witnessing.
Just limit or ban short term rentals in touristic hot spots like NYC did. Raise hotel prices, it should all work out. Much less revenue but a more balanced number of visitors. Visitors would be forced to stay outside of touristic zones if they can’t afford a hotel.
So you just don't want tourists then? I thought was about living spaces for the local population. Ah well people will find somewhere else and have a lovely time.
@@CJD666 Tourism is also about balancing, if those popular locations get too crowded and too dirty nobody enjoys them, and you gonna ruin the holidays for decent tourists, which also means harming your own income. And obviously you want wealthy tourists which cause less trouble, some broke AirBNB enjoyers with 10 drunk people in one room aren't a lucrative business model for the society - it is just a parasitic business model where residential zones are being misused for tourism AKA an apartment owner and the App making money at expense of normal residence who have to deal with the consequences of it. I am not a Spaniard, not even living there, but it is clear that touristic hot spots shouldn't allow short term rentals, and the amount of tourist should by limited by available hotels.
For as much as I appreciate the culture and vibe of the country which I visited several times and I would certainly enjoy visiting again, I must admit Spain has embraced a development model which is highly unbalanced as a disproportionate amount of its GDP is directly or indirectly dipendent on tourism sector and that leads to the problems highlited by this video. You must say the entire country or a vast portion of it has been converted into an amusement park for tourists, so it's no surprise locals are now revolting against the "invasion"
It's the first time a hear "mobility scooter" but understood at first. One of the best Spanish movies ever is tittled so: the little mobility scooter (El cochecito, 1960). There are many in Ciudad Real and that people are who behave the best "walking" the city.
If Airbnb’s were gone and rentals went back to the locals/people living there surely this restricts tourism back to where it was for hotels and private villas (controlled) I think tourism is out of control everywhere and places are feeling the impact even in the Uk places like Cornwall are suffering with airbnbs taking properties away from the market that would of either been rented or owned. I do also think tourism is crucial so making them feel unwelcome is counterproductive.
It sounds like it’s not so much the tourists that are the problem it’s the lack of wealth distribution causing poverty. I can’t see changing the tourism dynamic will change that. When your area relies on tourism you need to be careful what you wish for. A sudden 50% drop in tourists won’t make anyone better off, IMHO.
Portugal is so welcoming and great value. Visited Spain many times, will wait before going back and spend my money in the UK. Taxes, petty rules and fines.
Quick summary of events Locals: complain to government Government *does nothing* Locals *protest* Tourists: complain to your government It is the governments fault though... its time limit or outright ban airbnbs and tourist apartments
Stu used to invite people to chat, but never a perfect half Brit-Spanish or Spaniard-British, as your wish. I have some of this mixture in my family and keep learning a lot from them. We all have bias, those guys too, but understand and explain it well. Related to this, what better to understand Gibraltar or Ceuta than going there.
I spent a year in Spain but soon saw the fangs of their Police State during Covid. No thanks. Moved to Portugal with the family and we are all much, much happier. Four great years.
Why is it that the VOTERS in "democracies" are SO ignorant on just about everything?!?!? Tourists are the the problem?!? I guess people should treat you like you treated others all over the world by colonizing you instead of "tourism" and then you'll have some respect? Please educate yourselves with not just your heritage but how this ACTUALLY work!
The central government and the local government need to crack down on Air bnb to start with but if you start to deter tourists then I can’t see how this is going to help? Surely the revenue is needed in Spain if it’s not then fair enough people will just go elsewhere
They need to put money on cell phones and make a tourist and a local tax which are both different so tourists pay more money when they come to the country
All very well to say how easy it t is to buy property in Spain but I've lately heard of several people trying to sell after many years of ownership. Apparently if you are able to sell but probably at a loss the experience is extremely costly.
Yep, the vast majority of what they can enjoy now, was built for tourists... Without tourism they'd be still living in simple fishing ports with no bars, restaurants or anything interesting to do and the tonnes of money that comes from that, pays for their infrastructure and amenities that they enjoy on a daily basis.
@@JorgeHernandez-ko5bbIt's not rocket science... Carry out a tiny bit of research and look at how much percentage of GDP wealth comes from tourism in countries like Spain... Then go look at countries in Africa or other areas where tourism is just starting out and see the difference in GDP... Also look at GDP and other wealth indicators in Spain before the start of tourism compared to other countries... If you look at the stats and facts, there's a distinct correlation between tourism and a country's total and per capita wealth 😉
@@davidholgate123 Carry out a tiny bit research Britian has 10% percent of her GDP from tourism, does it mean theres a correlation, no. Spain has still a big GDP, even bigger than "not toruism dependent" countries like NL, so become your argument quite void quite fast
Tourists bad, illegal immigrants good? The world has gone nuts! 😊
OBSESSED aren’t you…‼️👀
Better than being totally ignorant of the mass moves worldwide.
They can have ours..switch to Portugal..nice place..😀
No doubt these govts receive WEF funds
Maybe it"s you who isn't normal, ever thought of that?
I suspect that actual business owners are terrified that the bad press will result in tourists avoiding Spain. While meanwhile the true "invasion" is not of people who spend money and leave after a week, but of people who arrive unwanted and never leave, and make you pay for their upkeep. Curiously the latter are not receiving any bad press.
Not so curious if you want to control voting. And go on to implement dystopian measures that would be resisted by natives.
Colonialists
@@Yannickille Colonialists invaded weaker nations who resisted, but they eventually left, leaving behind the benefits of modern civilization. Whereas today's Third World migrants are invading stronger nations who could but won't resist, and they will never leave, and bring problems and zero benefits, aside from cuisine (but recipes exist already).
You are absolutely right.
Sounds like a WEF policy
exactly right, but its actually a bigger one, look up Rev, 13:16, its coming
Of course it is the tourists causing the housing shortage, nothing to do with the illegals. Blame the Government not the people bringing revenue into the country.
Do you really think migrants are paying for tourist apartments...we need to stop blaming them for every problem Spain has.
you have no clue
Illegals aren't renting Airbnb and pricing out locals.
Florida had 140 million tourists last year and has 22 million people. Figure it out.
@@EndorFine-h3r that's not true. Millions of Americans leave the north to stay in Florida for the winter. They travel from places further than those Europeans coming to Spain have to travel. They need housing. Florida makes it work.
Happens in the uk too, people from abroad buying up british homes, leaving the locals unable to afford to live where they grew up...its NOT just spain.
@@Jaques2go/ That’s true, and is the reason why the house prices are unaffordable for most British people!
Nice static caravan for £20k does the job
Only a few people buying homes in Uk , the bigger problem is migrants arriving in Uk with no money and being put in hotels and then put in homes paid for by the taxpayers. This is the real reason why house prices are going up more
@@mariabarco7226houses are unaffordable for British people because we have over a million migrants arriving every year , most of them with no money , they are not buying homes but living in houses paid for by British taxpayers
Same in ireland. Crazy
Don't go to Spain, what the hell is going on, soon you will not be able to leave your County, Don't take it out on tourists change your government.
That is why people in my country are doing this protest, to make pressure on the government.
five teen minit citeez, progressing to as u said it, not allowed to leave your zone, then comes the mk of the beest just like the Bible stated in Rev 13:16, its coming
@@pauljohnson-ih1xeBollocks my friend
Never bite the hand that feeds you
That’s the problem, turists money don’t go to the locals. Is the big fish who get it!
What the British did with the European Union.
Honestly, quite a few come here with that level of arrogance, that is often the problem. Respect is a two way street.
@@mariabarco7226 It goes to all businesses connected to the hospitality industry, those who are employed by such businesses, and the multiplier effect for non-hospitality businesses and their employees. Plus, tourists add diversity lol.
@@mariabarco7226who employ locals with the money ?
"Go to Greece because it's cheaper and friendlier: see ya" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Please do and tell family and friends!
Eso ; eso 😂
Greece is just as packed with tourists, in fact everywhere is, not just Spain, in fact London/UK is full of Spanish tourists and migrant workers
Síii vete vete .porfa
The difference being that it normally take me 2 hours to fly to Spain but it can be close to 5 hours sometimes to fly to parts of Greece, otherwise I'd go to Greece more... That's the big advantage Spain has over Greece to British tourists.
Good luck Spain without tourists. Just put your prices up by 100% should sort it! Zero tourists.
They should all go to Portugal like Stuart!
@@mariabarco7226 You seem to forget Covid when the hospitality industry in Spain which makes up a large portion of Spain's income ground to a halt! How quick one is to forget!
The GDP of Spain in tourism is the 12% close to 11% of U.K but good luck U.K ? Lol
British aren’t big spenders in Spain . Always looking for an English full breakfast and cheap lager. Cheap beer and hen parties . Need more EU tourists
@@dantownsend4246You're referring to very old and out of date data there... It's changed a lot, look at the data for 2024...
The average expenditure per trip was €1,260 in 2024, up by more than 13% compared to the same period last year...
The daily average expenditure per British holidaymaker was €153, a 5.67% increase from 2023...
Holidaymakers from the UK were the highest total spending demographic in Spain, followed by Germans at €1.5 billion....
So the Brits are the big spenders in 2024... Even past old data like yours wasn't really accurate anyway because Brits book a lot more All Inclusive holidays than other country's tourist's so the spending is front-loaded but still goes into Spain...
That's been changing though, with more self-catering holidays booked by Brits and also Brits spending a lot more in 2024 with the British now the biggest spenders in Spain on a total number and also on a per capita basis!
We go to Spain twice a year. We stay in hotels. We don’t plan on going there this year - Greece or Portugal instead…
Gracias desde España
You won’t be saying thanks when we all go elsewhere 😂
I'm learning Spanish and hope to visit there one day, maybe I shouldn't bother?
@@pepitagimenez8790Enjoy waiting on those empty tables. Money talks.
@@happybunny8704There is always the English Riviera 😊
Went to Barca last year and the hotel was a refugee shelter, managed to get a refund, never again will i go back , they don’t want paying tourists they want the other ones
Wrong target. They have to protest directly to their governments! Rent controls! Model change and do it quickly. The protesters also need to target the big money propping these governments up.
Government has tried, but regional conservative governments don´t want to apply it. They prefer to protect owners
Maybe listen to them instead of imagining you know what's right for them. You get to leave a RUclips comment while they're living it.
They done it already and government doesn’t listen, that’s why they are escalating!
@@rosafuster8376 They have not made effective changes that work. They need to make comprehensive changes to the whole system instead of tinkering at the edges.
Totalmente de acuerdo
I wanted to employ a Carpenter\ Joiner full time, I consulted my accountant, he said I would have to pay him €18,000 per year ( due to the agreement with the unions , “ el convenio “, fine I thought . He would take home after tax €13,000 , €1,083 each month . However I as the employer would have to pay various other taxes and his social security amounting to a total of € 26,000 ! I didn’t do it in the end , but , in effect the lowest paid in this country are taxed at 50% !!!!! Let that sink in 😊
This is 100% correct. The taxes and employment laws makes it very difficult for businesses here, especially small businesses.
I would be embarrassed to pay such a low wage. Hire an English man.
If his gross pay is €18,000 per year, then he'll pay about €2,000 in income tax (IRPF) depending on the comunidad autónoma. He'll pay about another €1,200 a year in social security. Any other deductions are very small by comparison, so over the year, he should take home about €14,500. If he's only receiving €1,083 per month, then they're retaining too much and he'll get a rebate at the end of the year. (This is quite common in many tax regimes.)
The employer has other costs, of course. The big one is employer's social security contributions, which can be about 30% of the gross salary, in this case 0.3 * €18,000 = €5,400. It's quite a lot for a small business to pay, but it's the cost of sick pay, parental leave and one of the best state pension schemes in Europe (especially when adjusted for cost of living).
I guess the rest in your example is made up by liability insurance, accountant's fees and bank charges. You'll have to pay these when running a business in any country.
My point is that you have to separate what is the income tax that a worker pays from their salary (in this case about 11%) from what are the business costs of having employees. If it's for a small project, you're almost definitely much better off hiring a carpenter on a freelance basis, whereby they take responsibility for their own tax, social security, insurance and associated management and accounting costs. This is how this works probably everywhere in the world.
@@frmcfyou don’t get it at all. If the employer can afford to pay 26,000 as the cost of having the employee, it doesn’t matter at what point it’s being taxed (before payout by an employee tax on the business, or after payout via income tax on the employee) all of that money could theoretically go to the employee so the government is keeping 50% if they only receive 13k net when the company is paying 26k
And then the employee has to pay 21% IVA (VAT) on many purchases from their salary. No wonder the Spanish stay so poor. The government steals from the workers.
Spain has the same problem as Ireland house prices and rents out of reach of the local people and there is a bubble in housing which is driven by the EU for the rich and also many Chinese have bought houses but never live in them.
i have owned a property in spain over forty years and spend my main holidays there i must have spent probably over a million pounds there in my life time? but i now get treated as a nuisance yes i will sell my property and get out while the going is good? and i hve noticed how arrogant some spanish have become but they love my money but no more ADIOS
You’re selling because you’re old😂😂😂😂😂
The Spanish don't like your "I can do whatever I want because I pay pounds sterling" attitude. It's not 1965 anymore,
@@barryyeatman5341 /You spend money on YOURSELF!!!
@@davidparvez4972the Spanish are entitled as their economy is almost nonexistent and they get constant handouts from the productive countries of the EU.
They created the problem and now cry. And I'm from there. Fortunately I left years ago.
Why do the British think they are the only people visiting Spain !!!!!
True
Apparently, 50 million Spaniards eat every day thanks to the British from Benidorm and Torrevieja.
@@davidparvez4972more than the actual Spanish population? Lol get your facts right. FYI British tourism is CHEAP 😂
@@davidparvez4972 do Spanish eat leftovers from Brit full English breakfast?
Have you ever been to Benidorm? Brits and Germans.
Being from Spain, from a family that travels a lot ( now and growing up), and have lived in different countries, I don’t have anything against tourism. Many cities couldn’t survive without it, but we have to make sure that locals can survive too. I I agree when you say that the protests are against the government… the rules, not the tourists. Except the obnoxious behavior from protesters in Barcelona. I liked your comment about “Tourists using the country as a toilet”, and that’s what locals might complain about. That reminded me of the first time we took my husband to Benidorm, and he didn’t like it at all. My family, from Madrid loves Benidorm. After a couple visits, he learned to like Benidorm for its charm of old town , and beauty. He didn’t like when he saw all the drunk, rude, tourists at first. I told him that I appreciate people that love my country, and I don’t have anything against them, the opposite, but I don’t like that behavior either
Finally some equilibrium here..😊
I hitch hiked round Spain with two New Zealand friends, in 1962. Before tourism. Still under Franco. Its was so beautiful, I am so glad I saw it then. No one spoke English; the people were welcoming, kind and incredibly helpful. Also, very very poor. I remember staying in tiny fishing villages, which have become concrete high rise nightmares. Spain grasped at the prospect of tourism to rebuild and enrich the economy. They encouraged the flood of low budget holidaymakers. Bit late to complain about it now. I would suggest they ban the influx of cheap all-in holiday packages. From all countries, don't just blame the British!
Go to Greece it's cheaper lol. Only certain islands.
It's more expensive to go though... Flights and hotels are normally more expensive than Spain so you're not gaining anything financially... Also, if you're concerned about saving money, you shouldn't be booking holidays abroad anyway!
Greece not cheap anymore
Before, tourism was about sun and sand, now tourism has reached the cities and with it the tourist apartments that leave Spaniards unable to rent. Another thing is the overcrowding that must be regulated, as always the fault of the politicians.
Just make it illegal for tourists to stay anywhere other than hotels. Then, if the hotels wish to price them out, they can, and the area will suffer. Or hotels can be reasonable, and it can be win/win.
I've been welcome in Spain many times, particularly northern Spain, Asturias, Cantabria, Galicia. I stay in small hotels, eat in quiet places, strive to meet the people and listen to their lives. With rare exception, the people I meet are pleased to have my business. The same people express extreme dismay at the number of illegals that have arrive in Spain and caused tremendous horror, destruction, and cost. I'm not sure why gov'ts in Europe are allowing millions to swarm in and take over entire neighborhoods and towns. This is not a benefit in any way. Let's not lie about it. Thank you.
I cant see how taxing cruise ship passengers for staying less than 12 hours has any connection to locals affording housing costs. Surely its the best way to visit, they spend money ashore in cafes, restaurants, bars, and shops, use taxis buses to go sightseeing. Then after a long day return to their beds on board the ship. The ports make money and provide employment too. Win win all round. Housing cost more almost everywhere these days, it's not just a spain problem
You're forgetting it's not a single cruise ship. It's day in and out for most of the year. A d 12 hour cruise tourists aren't the only tourists. Go tell it to the landlords and outside owners that mysteriously let the apartment rental prices triple, or out everything up to Airbnb. Housing costs are also regional due to demand; where the highest driver of demand in tourist areas? Tourism! Maybe listen to people and what they are experiencing instead of telling them what they should think.
Exactly. Well said.
@@subcitizen2012 Tourists also don't enjoy spending more for Air BnBs than locals spend for apartments.
I agree that cruise passengers are not responsible for pressure on housing. They are separate issues, but both very real problems. Spend per visitor from cruise ships is very low, for exactly the reasons that you've said: they don't stay in hotels, and probably only eat one meal on shore, if that.
They clog up the streets - we could debate how big a problem that is. They tend to engage only minimally with the place and its culture. The port makes some money, but the argument is that it doesn't filter through to local businesses, compared to other types of tourism. Having said that, there are significant economic benefits to being a home base for cruises, since many passengers will fly in and spend time before their cruise starts: staying in hotels, eating out, etc. The ships themselves are very polluting and go against climate change objectives: "Don't tell me I have to switch to an electric car when one of those things is sitting in the port with its engines burning more fuel in a second than my car uses in a month." etc.
Any additional employment in the port itself due to cruise ships is minimal: maybe one or two admin workers in the port, a bit more work for local coach companies, of course, but it's not like the port authority is hiring hundreds or thousands more workers because a few cruise ships are coming in.
That’s not true. They spent there money on the boat. They paid for food and drinks they even have shops on board. Maybe they eat an ice cream. But they come with so many on shore it’s overwhelming
Tourists are not to blame for lack of affordable housing, that blames lies on wages not increasing and the government not having a policy of providing affordable housing. Blaming tourists will do nothing and the Spanish should be very careful about what they wish for, without the tourists they are doomed!
😂😂😂😂😂😂 So deluded!!!
@@mariabarco7226 Well Maria you should stop talking about yourself like that!
True. But many also deliberately fail to mention the elephant in the room. In 2023 the net immigration into Spain was more than 700.000 people. You need a lot of houses for that many people! The largest group of immigrants? Moroccans.
@@mariabarco7226Yes.. you are deluded👍
Tourism is overboard everywhere. Doesn't anyone stay put anymore and enjoy their own country..
Long time, no see Stuart. I'm currently in Spain with my middle daughter who just graduated from high school. It's her graduation present. We started in Naples...(and let's just say that Naples was "sus", even though I met some really nice people in the few days we were there.) We then went to Rome, where after a couple of days, my daughter got a very bad case of food poisoning, and we were pretty much stuck in the hotel for the remainder of the five days. After a hard day of travel, we finally arrived in Barcelona, where my friends picked us up and brought us to their home in Vinaroz for two weeks plus. I love this town, and the nearby areas such as the town/city of Peñíscola. We will finish our tour of Spanish next week in Valencia, Madrid, and Cádiz, before returning to Rota and home. It looks like you are in Portugal, and I am going to miss you again. Oh well, maybe the next trip. 😊. Take care Stu, and the rest of Spain Speaks. I've missed y'all.
I think that the villas that foreigners buy are out of reach for local people. One can argue that the cheaper properties could have been built there instead, but what would be the use of them if those resort villages don't have any jobs? The reason people move to the larger cities is not because there is no place to live but because there are no jobs.
Very true. The segment of luxury properties is separated from the market for normal people, it is just a low instinctual behaviour to blame the people who are better off. Locations of things like Marbella or Sotogrande aren't even appealing for average blue collar worker, there are no jobs and no industry, and the idea that someone would build affordable apartments for them in those locations is just unrealistic.
The issue are rather the foreigners buying/renting average priced apartments in the popular cities. But again, nobody is entitled to live in city centre. Although, parasitic models like AirBNB should have been forbidden 10 years ago.
I've literally just watched a video before this one, on the channel Mallorca under the sun, where we literally saw the posh English presenter talking to the protesters, who were all very civilised, and were all clear that they're not opposed to tourism, but just want a more sustainable model. Im sorry to say, anyone who gets upset with people for saying they can't afford to live in their own homeland because of wealthy people pushing prices up, is just an arse.
I feel for the citizens of Mallorca because its obvious they are not seeing the benefits of tourism and some of my fellow Brits do indeed treat that lovely Island as a toilet.
Bulldoze Magaluf and build affordable homes for the locals.
I would like to see bars close at midnight which is plenty late enough.
Their jobs and hence income are the benefit of tourism.
Corporate power is the problem. Billions of $$$ into the hands of a few while our countries and lifestyles are systematically broken down in order to serve their interests, not ours.
Funny you would think it’s been planned, same happening in Australia, mass immigration driving up house prices and rent 🤣
They seem to ignore the Spanish tourists. That seems to be fine. A huge amount of Spanish from outside Barcelona visit there, they are the biggest group. They are also the group that buy the most property there. Yet, they are ignored by these protests that seem targeted to Northern Europeans and Brits especially.
It's the same as anywhere: no one actually likes too much diversity.
The Catalans consider non-Catalan Spaniards a foreign threat as well.
Im from Spain, and all I have to say is, if you dont empathise with the locals and understand our claims, please go to Greece or somewhere else, but Im afraid that soon they will start doing the same...
I think most tourists are saying "your claims are for your own local government, not us". Tourists would rather pay less for lodging too. But if a critical mass of tourists say "OK, we'll visit somewhere else instead", then you guys will be in bad shape job-wise, and might even turn into people who move somewhere else where you may not be welcomed.
When tourism is an economic driver it should be an important ministry of government and well regulated. If the government has not been addressing the negatives of tourism and it's effect on society they should take notice now. For this reason i have respect for the protestors as they have recognized the quicker way to getting the powers that be to do their jobs.
There are NO Ex-Pats iliving n Spain!!! They are Immigrants, Economic Immigrants! not unlike the people crossing the "English" channel every day! (La Manche, Àrmel Kanal)
I can’t wait to leave. I had 5 police come and tell me I couldn’t train in a public gym area with my dogs. Threatening violence and bullying. I checked with the council and the police station and they said I was fine. These police are errand boys for the wealthy.
The 1992 Rio earth summit explains all to the, " Cannon Fodder unfortunately that populates the earth ".
With Europe being so overcrowded with tourists I recommend visiting more underrated destinations like South America, I recommend Buenos Aires the secret city people need to discover
Dangerous
No one is going to tell me where I can or can't go on Planet Earth, unless by threat of force like in some nations.
I do not wish to be beheaded on the internet.
please don't!!!!
Short term rentals have skewed the rental market here in San Diego as well. I sympathize with the anti-tourism feelings in Spain. 😮
Nonsense, I from Dego. Who did you vote for. As is here in Spain. Politicians are to blame.
This is a global phenomenon across all western nations. These nations take in mass migration with huge handouts while also allowing businesses to buy real estate away from people, letting nimbys prevent new construction, and basing property tax on house value which lets government artificially raise the value constantly to get more money. It's the perfect storm. China has the opposite problem as millions of houses and apartments sit empty.
Tourism is such a tiny factor but it's an easy scapegoat for people to always be xenophobic and blame the foreigner (blaming mass migration is not blaming the foreigner, it's blaming governments that allow it to get out of hand). Getting rid of airbnbs just makes hotels sky rocket in price and people will go back to running off grid inns that are unregulated and undocumented like before.
They simply need to rise the prices. Like Sardinia. It's expensive and few people can afford it.
Intruder with bad spanish speaks about intruders...
I am against cheap mass tourism: collapse of public services, cleanliness, health, security, WATER, saturated sewage treatment plants pouring human shit directly into the sea water, etc.
We live here, since generations ago, people who have nothing to do with the hotel chains, who do not want to live with ill-mannered drunks that you do not want in your countries, shall I go on counting?
I can sympathise with the locals. They are asked to share their space with tourists but see none of the additional revenues
Tourism isn't the problem, its a lack of social housing that's the biggest problem. 40% of spanish jobs are linked to tourism, drive the tourists away and te economy will tank. Youth unemployment is chronic in Spain and I've never known the number of Spanish people in the UK who are working retail jobs like now. Blame greedy politicians, not the people actually bringing money into your country.
The world has gone crazy
It´s simple, don´t go to Mallorca and Tenerife, explore some new areas and enjoy the locals as our friends the scottish people do.
So are there an equal number of empty hotels waiting in these places then?
@@orcharddweller1109 You can do camping or rent a flat in advance, it is more like renting flats or air b and b, obviously you have to do it in advance, if we talk about extension, there is obviously more rooms available in the whole Spain than in those two places, it is just a matter of searching for a different type of vacation rather than spend the day searching for Mateo Castellanos in a Hotel Pool in Benidorm, not worth it.
It just goes to show you when you use your card. The higherachy know what you are doing.. Beware...
I am a resident in Tenerife.
In order to control mass tourism the government has to limit the beds available, this will bring the prices for a stay up and at the same will higher de quality of the tourist, so much needed in Tenerife. The higher income with this plan gives the possibility to putting up wages, better economy and open up housing for the locals.
Who knows. It's clear something has to be done on it asap. If wrong, at least we'd know something to improve later. Perhaps an easier and quicker step would be to provide beds to the locals first. Ningún Cabildo is going to limit tourisms but that simple thing is in their hands.
A friend of mine from our childhood is resident in Tenerife, owns three appartments and gets her good living from renting them. She only has to speak English, which does with English accent, and clean the appartments between tourists. There are locals less local than others.
Overall, I agree that they should limit the cheap drunk tourists, get rid of AirBNBs in hotspots etc. Those are the things that are the biggest inconvenience for local Spaniards, as they raise rents in average income neighbourhoods, and bring all the problems associated with cheap party tourism.
Disincentivizing wealthy immigrants through wealth tax is pathetic though. Building new villas outside cities has little effect on prices of some average apartments, it is its own economic bubble, and average person will never be able to afford a villa. The effect of rich immigrants are through and through positive, most countries compete for them. Yet, Spain wants to tax foreigners even on their wealth made and kept outside of Spain.
It looks quite delusional, as they don't like the cheap drunk tourists, which I do sort of understand. But at the same time they are ideologically opposing the wealthy ones as well.
But at the end, the entire situation seems to be extremely exaggerated. 90% of Spaniards are still very friendly, and if something bad happens to you in Spain it is unlikely to be some of those anti-tourism protesters, and rather an illegal migrant from Maghreb.
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It isn't the tourists fault that their government is taking advantage. It is time for the people to encourage local businesses and growth, only buy local. I've visited Spain twice to visit my son, I could see myself living somewhere quiet with local amenities, because of all the recent problems for foreigners, I don't think I'll visit again.
I have to make a comment regarding the mobility scooters. I’m a power wheelchair user due to a postviral illness that caused cardiac issues. Something disable people are CONSTANTLY met with: “You don’t look disabled enough to need XYZ.” It’s exhausting. Many of us have invisible illnesses. Not all wheelchair, walker, cane users are seniors. Many are young like myself. You’d look at me and never know I have cardiac issues.
Please refrain from statements like “maybe they [mobility scooter users] were too lazy or just too drunk…” It’s hurtful and makes our lives very difficult. Being disabled can be hard on its own. But having to constantly justify and defend your disability? It’s untenable. Please be kind & don’t make assumptions.
Works both ways - stop tourists to U.K. the ones that don’t leave
Hi Stu, I must admit we did a tour of Mallorca last year in march . We started in the east and ended in the west. Even though it was off season most resorts (we went everywhere almost) were quiet but did notice lots of other Northern European living there as we were mistaken often for them. They are driving up the house prices but on the other hand there were lovely art and home shops benefitting from them also cafe bars etc. the busiest place I found was Soller! A nightmare to get around.
Tourists go home after their holidays.........
ikr... the "tourist go home" line is the stupidest one imaginable, because by definition a tourist already does just that
Just did 2 weeks north of Spain everyone was lovely
That’s the key though isn’t it..NORTH .not as many tourists go to the north..🤷♀️Plus Northerners are more friendly where ever you go ( except America ) 😂
I have a two week vacation coming up (Barcelona, Valencia, Seville and Madrid). I'm looking forward to it. I do speak Spanish, so hopefully I can fit in like a local haha.
Ok I get overtourism, it’s bad, but aren’t most businesses going to suffer that rely on tourism? Hotels? Restaurants? It doesn’t really make sense? I think if it all stopped tomorrow, people might be saying the opposite?
It's not an all or nothing. Just better management of numbers Regulation s
Under the Franco era , all hotels had to provide accommodation for the staff . This needs to return.
good ol Franco...
Aso, we couldn't complain under the Franco era.
No estoy seguro de si tiene sentido el chiste en inglés. Que no nos podíamos quejar. Los norcoreanos tampoco se pueden quejar.
@@joseantoniodavila2752/ You could, I know many people who would complain then!
@@mariabarco7226 I could not because I didn't live those year, but got it. I think. I know many people who would complain then but none who did it.
First time going to Spain was in 2022 and fell in love with your country. I wish to go back to vacation but if I am not welcomed , I can always spend my hard earned dollars next door like Portugal or Italy, maybe even Greece! lol
That’s an exaggeration
@@mariaregalado4460 What is an exaggeration, the "not welcomed" part? If so, then that message needs equal time on social media and in the press.
The exaggeration is “I’m not going back” do people realize that the same protests are happening in other countries. It started in Italy. Again it’s against the rules , but you can always find a few idiots like in Barcelona
Been in Spain (Malaga area) since 2010. Loved it for a long time, but now I'm brainstorming getting out of here. Most of the coasts have been entirely ruined, with the exception of Costa de la Luz (I still love that place), though I don't see that lasting very long as Zahara de los Atunes (which is surrounded by "protected" land) is currently seeing massive expansions. Not to mention the tiny road going from Gibraltar to Tarifa is also currently being expanded into a proper motorway, which will entice tourists going into the area, as previously the only proper road into the area was through Sevilla.
Massification...Guilty as charged. Someone has to press the brake pedal !
Had wanted to vacation in Benidorm but I guess if the Spanish people don't want me, I will need to find another place.
Not wanted - don’t go, what a rude behavior of the Spanish to treat the tourists that way. Housing is going up all over Europe due to a false migration politic and rich people that can’t get enough, its not only happening in Spain
same in Switzerland. Lausanne from heaven, to Shithole.
"Less tourism,More life" how on earth does that make any sense in any country?
Less tourism, less money!!
Why should cruise ship tourists pay more tax. Their accommodation is onboard the ship. They don't use AirBnB.
That's how tax works - government charges you for something you're doing. Those that don't like the tax can chose not to do it or do it any pay the tax. 🤷♂
@@SimplyBeingAqui That's a fee, not a tax.
We have the same problem in Cornwall.I think homes for locals are also going to illegal migrants recently, I have seen a big increase.
It’s amazing that Covid restrictions have only been over for 2 years when No travel could happen. Now that the money is flowing again with Tourism, how quickly they forget.
Airbnb and cruiseships are ruining local real estate and economies. On top of that cruiseships are some of the most polluting ships.
How so.they dock people get off spend money return to the ship and are gone.
@@paulwhite3489They hardly spend money. They eat and drink mostly on the ship. On top of that they pollute. Cruiseships are some of the biggest polluters on the planet.
@@miamithijs3579 Still, cruise ships are a net economic benefit, and do not influence rental prices or any other prices for locals. As for pollution, that may be true, though those cities tend to have big ports with lots of ships already. I think the objection is just the visuals of seeing mobs of cruise ship passengers on the loose. Now as for Air BnB, which you mentioned, just introduce new laws and regulations about what locals can do with their apartments (leasing or subleasing). The tourists can stay in hotels, and then there is no impact on local rents or prices.
@@richatlarge462 Imagine a city that caters to locals and imagine a city that caters to tourists. Different shops/restaurants will be there. And if there are too many tourists cruiseships should be cut first.
Not wanting tourists sounds like the most stupid idea I have ever heard.
It’s to bad that some people from anywhere else can’t respect a country’s traditions and way of life. Whenever we have been to Germany or Switzerland, we prefer small local hotels and local restaurants, and do our best to be respectful of that country’s traditions. We would love to see what Spain is like, but understand your current issues with tourism.
It’s not all year round. Mostly seasonal and during summertime it’s just extra busy. The spanish should be thankful for that imo.
Hi Stu.
I have to say that your remark about "British tourists", running amok is false and rather ignorant.
Speaking to a young lady recently who lives in Malaga, she informed me that the worst behaved tourists (at least in her opinion after living there all of her life), were French, Spanish and Moroccan.
Your misleading and biased views really aren't helping the current Ill feeling towards tourists that we are witnessing.
It's the Canadians, who will blame Americans 😉..
Just limit or ban short term rentals in touristic hot spots like NYC did. Raise hotel prices, it should all work out. Much less revenue but a more balanced number of visitors. Visitors would be forced to stay outside of touristic zones if they can’t afford a hotel.
So you just don't want tourists then? I thought was about living spaces for the local population. Ah well people will find somewhere else and have a lovely time.
@@CJD666 Tourism is also about balancing, if those popular locations get too crowded and too dirty nobody enjoys them, and you gonna ruin the holidays for decent tourists, which also means harming your own income.
And obviously you want wealthy tourists which cause less trouble, some broke AirBNB enjoyers with 10 drunk people in one room aren't a lucrative business model for the society - it is just a parasitic business model where residential zones are being misused for tourism AKA an apartment owner and the App making money at expense of normal residence who have to deal with the consequences of it.
I am not a Spaniard, not even living there, but it is clear that touristic hot spots shouldn't allow short term rentals, and the amount of tourist should by limited by available hotels.
Well if you just want your city accessible to wealthy tourists only, ok.
For as much as I appreciate the culture and vibe of the country which I visited several times and I would certainly enjoy visiting again, I must admit Spain has embraced a development model which is highly unbalanced as a disproportionate amount of its GDP is directly or indirectly dipendent on tourism sector and that leads to the problems highlited by this video.
You must say the entire country or a vast portion of it has been converted into an amusement park for tourists, so it's no surprise locals are now revolting against the "invasion"
It’s about time that the truth about how tourism doesn’t really benefit the average person but mostly corporations.
Time to diversify the economy.
Corporations aren't the ones subleasing apartments at high prices. It's local people doing that.
PATRIOTS unite…much support from America 🇺🇸 🇪🇸
It's the first time a hear "mobility scooter" but understood at first. One of the best Spanish movies ever is tittled so: the little mobility scooter (El cochecito, 1960).
There are many in Ciudad Real and that people are who behave the best "walking" the city.
If Airbnb’s were gone and rentals went back to the locals/people living there surely this restricts tourism back to where it was for hotels and private villas (controlled) I think tourism is out of control everywhere and places are feeling the impact even in the Uk places like Cornwall are suffering with airbnbs taking properties away from the market that would of either been rented or owned. I do also think tourism is crucial so making them feel unwelcome is counterproductive.
Another problem is the local cafes are bought and turned into up market restaurants,so more meetingplaces lost
Damn local cafe owners, selling out the area to make a selfish profit. lol
People who take GB News seriously are thick.
Haha…whereas that Marxist propaganda unit the BBC is completely reliable and objective.😂
People who take any news channel seriously are thick.
I'll go to Portugal, no big deal.
I have been to Portugal and it’s not Spain
Please, do. Go to Portugal.
Shut the door on your way out 😅
It sounds like it’s not so much the tourists that are the problem it’s the lack of wealth distribution causing poverty. I can’t see changing the tourism dynamic will change that. When your area relies on tourism you need to be careful what you wish for. A sudden 50% drop in tourists won’t make anyone better off, IMHO.
Portugal is so welcoming and great value. Visited Spain many times, will wait before going back and spend my money in the UK. Taxes, petty rules and fines.
Quick summary of events
Locals: complain to government
Government *does nothing*
Locals *protest*
Tourists: complain to your government
It is the governments fault though... its time limit or outright ban airbnbs and tourist apartments
Two cruise ships with 3k passengers each visiting feels like an invasion.
Stu used to invite people to chat, but never a perfect half Brit-Spanish or Spaniard-British, as your wish. I have some of this mixture in my family and keep learning a lot from them. We all have bias, those guys too, but understand and explain it well. Related to this, what better to understand Gibraltar or Ceuta than going there.
I spent a year in Spain but soon saw the fangs of their Police State during Covid. No thanks. Moved to Portugal with the family and we are all much, much happier. Four great years.
Why is it that the VOTERS in "democracies" are SO ignorant on just about everything?!?!? Tourists are the the problem?!? I guess people should treat you like you treated others all over the world by colonizing you instead of "tourism" and then you'll have some respect? Please educate yourselves with not just your heritage but how this ACTUALLY work!
Homes in the sun programs will be no more very soon lol😂
Greece and the Eastern Mediterranean is hotter in summer and colder in winter than Spain, not so good unless you like 40 degrees
I toured Spain last year and I don’t think I’ll go back. I guess the government doesn’t want my money
Thank you for your comprehensive post of the difficulties you encountered, it was really enlightening😅
This sounds like a similar problem that we have in the West Country with Londoners coming in.
The will of the voters is being ignored in every industrialized nation.
Who is in charge???
The central government and the local government need to crack down on Air bnb to start with but if you start to deter tourists then I can’t see how this is going to help? Surely the revenue is needed in Spain if it’s not then fair enough people will just go elsewhere
They need to put money on cell phones and make a tourist and a local tax which are both different so tourists pay more money when they come to the country
All very well to say how easy it t is to buy property in Spain but I've lately heard of several people trying to sell after many years of ownership. Apparently if you are able to sell but probably at a loss the experience is extremely costly.
"Before tourists arrived, we could only be peasants."
keep dreaming
Yep, the vast majority of what they can enjoy now, was built for tourists... Without tourism they'd be still living in simple fishing ports with no bars, restaurants or anything interesting to do and the tonnes of money that comes from that, pays for their infrastructure and amenities that they enjoy on a daily basis.
@@JorgeHernandez-ko5bbIt's not rocket science... Carry out a tiny bit of research and look at how much percentage of GDP wealth comes from tourism in countries like Spain...
Then go look at countries in Africa or other areas where tourism is just starting out and see the difference in GDP...
Also look at GDP and other wealth indicators in Spain before the start of tourism compared to other countries...
If you look at the stats and facts, there's a distinct correlation between tourism and a country's total and per capita wealth 😉
@@davidholgate123 Carry out a tiny bit research Britian has 10% percent of her GDP from tourism, does it mean theres a correlation, no. Spain has still a big GDP, even bigger than "not toruism dependent" countries like NL, so become your argument quite void quite fast
@@davidholgate123 including health care where the mast vajority of retirees /tourism use while there? come on !"
The big problem here is not tourists so much as greed.
Go to Türkiye it’s a fab country absolutely wonderful people
Turkey is a dictatorship with no press freedom or transparent judicial system. Corruption is rampant. I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole
I was trapped in Valencia in 2020… Have ptsd since.
Croatia is the new _Balla-ballamann!_
They better crank up the espadrillos production in Spain to have _something_ to sell.
Holiday in Portugal
Maybe in Mars😂
Bognor Regis, no passport required
Same problems in Portugal as in Spain.