Rain Collection System Fail (250 gallons lost!) | "Burn the Evidence"
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- The rain water collection system failed, and I am forced to dump all 250 gallons of water that I collected so far. Live and learn!
Since I removed the water tot from the metal wire cage, it distended really badly, so I had to restart the entire rain collection system to fix it. Life and time, always provides a lesson, this lesson, is to not go too cheap! Thankfully the entire fix only cost me my time, and 25 cents.
Collecting rainwater is not super complicated, but there are for sure some areas that most people will struggle with. First you need something big enough to catch the water, keep it bug free. You also need a way to keep rain water from getting full of leaves and debris so it doesn't clog up your hose. I also used a pump system to move the water from an old RV.
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What do you do in the winter? Won't it freeze solid?
Too late now.... but I would have said to bury it and cover the top with maybe a deck. That will stop the light from growing algae and keep the water cooler in the summer.
My favorite youtubers are the ones that show their mistakes and learn from them. You, my friend, will be one of the greats
I appreciate the feedback thanks for watching!
Same, a question for the ages, if you don't do something silly sometimes do you even exist ?
this could be a busy channel.
"will be"?!? 😯
Full stop. You didn't fail. You just learned how not to do it.
... and so did we👍🏻
RUclipsrs generally don't show their mistakes and mostly don't follow up on their projects, so thanks for showing what could, and does, go wrong.
If you keep watching we've got a new vlog coming out soon that something goes very wrong...
@@ModernSelfReliance I'll keep watching, I'm just catching up in a random order :) You have a great channel, It has a real Red Green Show vibe.
Immerse the hose in the water and plug up the end you are pulling out. That will keep the water in the hose until you're ready to release it
That's the way I make a siphon too. If you can get the loose end of the hose to seal against the palm of your hand as you pull it out of the tank it's a little easier. I like the new channel, keep it up!
Just wasn't happening that day....
@@cmosphoto1 He just wasn't keeping the end SEALED!
“If you fail, burn all the evidence!”
Really great honest video is so great to see. Nothing is better to see than someone making a video showing how to correct a mistake they made on a earlier video. Great video & a very great channel!!
A good man to recognize his mistakes and adapt. "Live and learn."
I kinda saw that coming, but I was hoping for the best. Ya live and learn. The revamped setup still looks great.
Thanks Paula!
Thanks for being honest and showing everyone what no one else would show on YT or say anywhere else.
Sheila! Gotta be honest! Sometimes things just don't work! Adapt and move on to the next project! Thanks for watching!
Consider getting water from the creek with poly tubing. Use a catchment box or perforated pipe covered with screen to gravity feed it to a tote just beyond the power house to save $ on wire. A 500 feet roll of half inch poly is $38 at Home Depot. Then you can use an inline turbine to create power 24/7 before and after the water flows to the tote with an overflow back to the creek or pond and a tube to the cabin. Search RUclips for ways to make your own turbines from a DC motor that you have in your stash. The hydro setups are way too expensive. See the Land to House channel for tips. Inline fan blades and waterwheels work on water velocity and are less dependent on pressure like turbine jets.
As you can see by the comments, you may encounter more issues with this.
Personally, I would have added a hose tap at the drums drain, plus additional taps for future expansion. Stick that pump up under the building for protection. Get a utility sink out at the outhouse...and prep it for snow. Plus an overflow for the tank to keep out water rot in the future.
Nice work still.
I like your train of thought “Burn the Evidence”....... Nice lol
The metal cage is the strength not only from the top to bottom but for the sides. You can put the boards onto the metal cage then drop the box into the cage then you wont have to worry about punching holes in it
Thank you for posting this. It was funny and informative! Learning from our mistakes is a valuable lesson. 😁👍
Thanks for watching Stacey!
I appreciate that you report your mistakes! I have a tiny house Skoolie on land I am using IBC totes for water collection... I love this video!
I'm just commenting to assist with the YT algorithm. Good job on the fix!
Thanks for the support!
I definitely appreciate this follow-up video. After watching the last video I was able to use old four inch pvc drain pipes to fashion replacement gutters for our old(over 150 years old) barn here at the farm. I was also thinking of buying one of the water storage containers. I will definitely remember to leave it in the metal cage. Thanks again for the gutter tip.🤙
It's crazy how much they charge for totes keep an eye out for cheaper ones.
Great to see that other innovative guys occasionally mess up in the execution of what seems like a fabulous idea.
Thanks Bobby!
Thanks for the fail. I always wondered if they'd hold without their cages. Now I know.
Took one for the team I guess!
Not technically a “fail.” More like a “learnt.”
Keep up the great content!
Wow, who woulda thunk that could happen? All the best! Peace and Good Fortune and Good Health to you and your family.
I had an idea, it didn't come as a complete surprise.. but still... Only a minor setback.. when I googled it to begin with it didn't mention anywhere where you should use them without their cage..
I was curios as well about the structure. Thank you for sharing.
Dang!! Lesson learned! Lord knows we learn alot of hard lessons on a homestead!
Usually you start with a full cup of luck and a empty of experience and you try to fill the experience cup before you empty the other....
Luck has two folds. Like it says, if it was not for bad luck, you would have any luck.
I decided to call it Blessings!
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I get so much joy from your videos
Thanks for watching Daniel!
Soooooo funny ... I love it ... you are so honest about your ‘mistakes’ ... and kudos for getting straight in there and fix or replace there and then ... well done 😘
Love it! Hes burning "the evidence" while filming to youtube. I love this guy!
It was to reclaim the nails! 😃
Watching your shows makes me want to be an engineer with having to go to school. ;)
Oh baby...don't be upset...its just wrong planning and sometimes things happened beyond us...love you❤❤❤ and your hard work...be happy😍😍😍
Thanks for watching!
Paint the outside black to keep it from turning green inside from the sunlight. Just a suggestion.
It's pretty covered with the wood keeps most of the light out...but maybe a version #2 paint it black. It will need to be drained again in the fall...
@@cmosphoto1 keep it up all winter and make a giant ice cube. Then harvest it into smaller cubes for your drinks for the year. You're welcome.
@@outdoorsforachange Mmmmmm roof water keeps your drinks cold with cedar snack at the end!
@@cmosphoto1 perfect for ice tea. Just put some maple syrup in it.
All that conversation so wonderful! So happy!
Puerto Rico USA
No harm no foul but we still learned a lesson good video
Dude, I just watched a video about this the yesterday. The water towers on top of buildings have bands of metal around them for this reason. The metal bands are spaced closer together as you go down the tower because there is more pressure on the bottom of the water tower than there is on the top because of the weight of all the water. Neil De Grasse Tyson explains it better. But it’s kinda like setting the foundations of a building, the bottom has to be locked in tighter because it’s taking the weight of everything on top. Your water collection container was an example of that on a smaller scale.
Add a few cap fulls of bleach to that every few weeks..nice job...you didn't have to tell us..props.
Oh no, I told my husband to follow your technique. Lol. This one with the cage will be much better.
Well it technically still held the water.... For how long who knows.. but yes the cage adds structure.
Wow would not have seen that coming. Looks great now
Thanks for watching Chuck!
Thanks for sharing this, I am actually planning to use an IBC and now I know to leave the cage on.
Thanks Kev 👍
Have you thought about building a sand filter on top of the tank? Also, if you plan on using it during the winter, gonna have to insulate it somehow.
Three season for now. Maybe visit the sand filter in the spring time.
We used to call our siphon hose a Saskatchewan credit card. Back in the day when you could siphon from a car or truck gas tank. Had to get gas for our motorcycles. Usually from the neighbors cars.
When gas got really expensive a while back people where using screw drivers and poking holes in the tanks to get gas.. the method you describe is a little less offensive.
We all learn from our mistakes! Still another great vid.
Thanks for watching!
I just watched the first video about this water system recently, and I had a feeling things would go bad when you mentioned removing the wire cage.
I had to try it !!! lol
@@ModernSelfReliance now that Ive seen the cage... I wouldn't even call it "wire" more like steel bars.
Submerge the majority of the hose. Place your hand over the end as a stopper then pull out fast and get it below existing water level. works every time
Thanks for sharing your lesson and burning the evidence!
Thank you for the lesson because I was going to do the same at my off-grid place. I still will (but with the metal cage around it).
We live and learn! Someone below mentioned that in winter it will freeze. I don't know how cold it gets there but I have friends who live in the White Mountains, AZ they have not had that problem, could be it doesn't get that cold. Only time will tell.
It goes to minus 30 Celsius here.
Is this the "weirded bushman" channel😄. Always nice to learn from other people's mistakes 👍 also takes less takes to make the video😜 not be long before you're eating some wild game😂
I wouldn't want to eat all his food on him.
I was crying for ya Kevin, all that rain water down the drain or the hill... thank goodness you burned all the evidence!! I'll do a rain dance for ya n you burn the rest of the evidence.... be safe
Thanks Sue!
You gave me a good laugh. The first hose trick works is you simply put your hand over the end and take it off once your ground level.
I tried that a couple of times... Wasn't enough pull. I blame the corrugation
@@cmosphoto1 I use an old shop vac hose to drain cattle troughs. There's no way I'm using a bucket to dip water out and sure as hell not sucking a hose lmfao
Love 💘 the honesty and humour!! Lol
Thanks for watching!
You are going to have a massive channel just keep doing wot you are really like your humor
Thanks for watching Quinn!
I just subscribed ,,,you should have put some of that water in buckets,,containers,, to have until it rains again ,I enjoy your enthusiasm 😀
Thanks for watching!
Kevin, the tube went ok to the tank. then you block the end with your hand and pull it out. then it will start drainining.
Almost got it!
Honesty is the greatest way u are.......wonderful
Thanks Josanne!
No fail here ! Well played !
Nice work! Remember, crap happens!
Your logo should include your Opie hat and your pencil... like the wooded beardsman does his logo with the beard..
Got plenty of time for that... Let's just keep building!
@@cmosphoto1 woah, got time for two youtube accounts I C.. yay!
Well you should have asked me first. I learned that the hard way as well 😅
I asked the internet... ;-) live and learn I guess.
@@cmosphoto1 😅👍
Good lesson for all to see. Thanks for sharing it. Construction screws have tensile strength but poor shear strength. You can double up a floor joist with nails (a nail-lam) but will fail inspection if held together with screws. I would doubt your wood box could have held back the force of 8000# of water even had it been constructed with nails. The weight wasn't vertical and you had a lot of leverage working against you. Glad it went back into the tote frame. Be sure to paint or cover it so the sun doesn't destroy the plastic.
Yep... I knew about the lack of shear strength on the screws... Oh well... Lesson learned. That's why they build houses with nails because of the shear strength and they don't have 10 thousand dollar budget for structural screws.
@@cmosphoto1 Yeah but on the farm I can tote an impact driver and pocket full of screws a LOT easier than a compressor, hose, and nail gun. I don't know what i'd do without those handy screws.
@@BulletproofPastor have you seen the all in one nail guns...no need for hoses or compressors...
@@cmosphoto1 For brad nailers they work well but frame guns are still working the bugs out. I'm watching but not ready to pull the trigger yet.
@@BulletproofPastor lol "pull the trigger". Nice!
damn that sucks. hope it rains again soon. good show today.
Thanks for watching!
another great way to start a siphon is to seal one end of your hose, then stick the other end as deep into the water as you can. When you remove the seal from the other end of the hose, the water rushes in to fill the pressurized hose, transitioning to a slight vacuum, creating suction. That's generally what I do! :P
I tried and tried... I got er done!
@@cmosphoto1 Haha right on that's what matters! Love your channel!
Thank you for showing the redo. That’s a lot of rework. Sometimes you just have to do it over. Mike B. MWW.
Thanks for watching.
Funniest thing happened, youtube recommended me the build video for this project, then not 10 videos down from that one this one shows up
Live and learn! Really enjoying your new channel. Keep the content coming!!
Thanks for watching!
Regular updates are going to be Saturdays at 7pm..
Put a nylon sock over the hose to prevent debris from getting into the tote.
Good idea!
Or screening material
In winter it’s going to be frozen. You should have insulated the tank and buried it in the ground. And same with pipe system otherwise water will freeze in the pipe too.
ok Dude...watched this 4 times and enjoyed it every time.
Thanks, Caane!
Burn the Evidence! Very true... which reminds me...
You are human..everyone learns when someone else learns. That what I love about these kind of videos.
Thanks for watching Cindy!
You forgot to add the Woodobo! 😂
Mmmmmm spice water.
Shouldn't you have transferred some of that water into a 50 gallon drum so you had some to use for non drinking ?
I was thinking the same thing ,,,it might not rain for days or weeks,,, that was a waste to not put some water in buckets to use for washing up ,water is precious in his situation ,
Nice repair Kevin, lesson learnt 😀 I watch your adds and have to adjust volume on them, is there anyway to turn them down or your volume up so they balance out? Looking forward to the next one 👍
I'll have to ask if the volume can be balanced or turned down...
Crap. Well I hope it holds better this time! Thanks for the honest update!!
Oh it's gonna hold!!!! Come he'll or high water.. lol..
Or you could cover with a tarp any thing to keep the light out but to a filter would help with the water cleaner coming in
A tarp might be the easiest solution..
@@cmosphoto1 we do add a cap of bleach to ours and ever other few month a cup of salt for a softner
@@nicolehanshaw2783 that was my plan too... If the tote didn't decide to explode.
@@cmosphoto1 lol you live and learn im hoping to see a out door kitchen in the future we are moving in a few move month and thats the first thing on my list im really glad to see everything coming together for you with this camp
I like the Cussing woodsman for your new name....Much mistakes to do it over. lol Making my day...Bwahh haha. lol ! All kidding aside you show people HOW to mg ajh e mistakes gracefully in humor plus the actual lesson or two & burning the evidence.
Great video Kevin, I like how you admitted the fail and learned from it. And yes, if you hadn’t made the video there wouldn’t be any evidence!! lol
Wait what... I burned the evidence!
It takes a big man to admit and show the mistake that he made. You just showed us that you have the cojones to tell the truth rather than to tell a sweet lie. Therefore big thumbs up 👍! PS: you need to have a catchy slogan when starting and finishing a video. It helps and creates more engagement with the viewers. Your brother did it with “ subscribe or not I don’t care, but I care about you” man that is catchy. 😆😆😆
Dato, I'll try to think of one...
We've got 2 330 gallon totes. In their cage can be stacked
hi Kevin, awesome, honest video!!i guess at looking at that huge container, it was bound to happen? idk, but nice try, and nice fix my friend, and as I read thru the comments, it seems we have a few more future problems that might need to be addressed? but what do i know...NOTHING!!! thats why i watch You!! lol keep up the good work, and be safe, thank you, bill
It's constantly evolving! Thanks for watching!
We'll we did chat about the weight of the water in the rain catch but we only addressed the sinking and not the ballooning. Live and learn. Good recovery. How do you control the algae growth?
Bleach to control the growth!
Full Stop 🛑. Oh the erosion 😂 This was just a test right😁
Yes.. just a test! Fail quickly and move on.
Lesson. Learned.
Yeah man! Ur tank expanded like that, cause u took the metal frame off it! That's what it's there for!!
Thank you! good to know.. God Bless!
Thanks for watching Nelly!
To siphon the water..... what if you insert the hose, then cover the opening with your hand, making a tight seal, and then yank it out. It should work in the same way as a drinking straw, when you put your finger over the opening and it holds the soda or iced tea while you lift it to your mouth 😆.... hope that makes sense!
It does.. I think the corrugation had something to with the lack of success.
You gotta seal the end of the hose with your hand so the water won't back out of the hose when you pull the end out.
Good to know! If I ever use one for anything, that's important!
To siphon out if a big hose,put your hand over the open end before you pull it out of container
I tried that... Just wasn't happening... I understand the concept... Probably partially do to frustration..
Thanks for showing that I thought that may happen
All is well that ends well..
Really enjoy your videos!
Thanks for watching!
Those ibc totes are essentially liners , build a rock carriage out of wire fence except built for the liner not rocks. Use T fence post for the corners cubed....or though more risking of the tote, you could build a log carriage semi in the ground.
Make like a gabion basket for water.. . The semi buried idea isnt a bad idea... Or fully buried.
Cistern and water tower? Build the tower down hill level with cistern add ram pump at the bottom of tower to cycle back cistern....hydroelectric generation from rain catchment.
So like rain goes into catchment vessel, pipe catchment vessel to cistern, cistern to tower.
The reason for the tower to be down hill from cistern is so either overflow or set piped in interval will full the tower same rate cistern fills, the tower has a down pipe for overflow that runs into a ram pump, ram pump brings the water back up hill beyond the cistern to locate the hydroelectric generator closer to the cistern than away, the HEG is inline to the cistern so the hegs flow drains into cistern completing the cycle.
Can do the same for a fish pond except without a purification processes, can add a sloush box off it and pan to.
Would any of this work, I have no idea, others might.
Burning the evidence while filming lol. I like it.
In order to start a Syphon you have to hold your hand over the end as you pull it out.
I tried that... Got frustrated...
Great learning experience.
I didnt think the plastic would return back to its original form. I thought I was going to see some reshaping with a plastic mallet or a hammer and a 2x4. Enjoying the content!! Glad to see less Chris. Just need more egg sandwiches. IF you are worried about your cholesterol a wonderful blood, oatmeal, bean, garlic, onion sandwich. Viking up!!
I happy it went back to it original shape. I didn't have any more of the tote valves...
@@cmosphoto1 just another video ... whittling a tote valve
@@TheVodec bahahah whittling a tote valve!
@@cmosphoto1 ok ... maybe that is more something Zac Fowler would do
Well, lesson learned.
How cold does it during the winter there? Will you drain your water tote to prevent ice expansion damage? I do so for my rain barrels.
2,200 pounds of water or, 1000kg? 1000 liters at 1 kilo per liter?
The weight of the water will pull most of the wrinkles out of that tub.
Here is an idea...put the pipe all the way down, cover the end so the water won’t run back into the container...and pull
excelexcellent videos , keep them coming.
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