Why the Ferrari 360 might be in the value sweet spot | F430 vs 360 Depreciation and Buying guide
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
- Buying a Ferrari 360? Then this is the video to watch. In this depreciation and buying guide of the Ferrari 360, I will show you how much prices changed in the last month and how much the car loses per 1000 miles driven. Furthermore, I show you how all of this compares to the Ferrari F430 and why the 360 might be the Ferrari sweetspot.
You can contact me at fourwheeltrader@gmail.com if you would like a personalized analysis.
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Many voices in the car community complain that cars have become too digital. Unsurprisingly, demand for cars from the zeroes is high. If you also searching for a car from this period, it is likely that you come across some Ferraris. More specifically the 360 and F430. But which one is the better buy from a value perspective? In this video we will mainly focus on the 360. The F430 depreciation analysis you can find over here: • Ferrari F430 market up...
The current 360 is very small as there are only 40 cars for sale. Out of these 4, there are 34 automatic cars and only 6 manuals for sale. Hence, all quantitative analysis will be a bit tricky. If we look at the value development for the 360, we can see that prices increases with around 7%. Yet, this increase is not fully statistically confirmed and therefore might be the results. Especially if we look at the market from a mileage perspective, it is difficult to spot a real price increase. However, auctions results from bring a trailer seem to confirm the price increase and also those show a smooth increase.
When we compare the values of the 360 to the F430 (360 vs F430), we can see that the relative price increase is exactly the same. Probably this is not a coincidence. Things are, however, different when it comes to the depreciation per 1000 miles. Results show that the sensitivity to mileage is a lot lower for the 360 than for the F430. A reason for this might be that the F430 is still a lot newer.
Note that all the prices are advertised prices.
Content
00:00 The best mid-engine Ferrari
01:45 Today’s 360 prices
03:46 Historical price development
11:14 360 vs F430 values
13:34 Conclusion
Disclaimer: The Content is for educational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advice. Nothing contained in this video constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, or endorsement to buy or sell any cars. The information published has been obtained from or is based on sources which are believed to be accurate and complete. Although reasonable care has been taken, the completeness and the accuracy of any information published cannot be guaranteed. Any opinions may be wrong and may change at any time. You should always carry out your own independent verification of facts and data before making any purchase decision 
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458
@@19poundpound94 That could definitely use a market update
@Giovanni Almeida I have an older video on the 488 vs 458 but it needs a big update.
Bentley Continental GT
F12/f13/f06 BMW M6!
I rarely comment or like videos. But you gained yourself a new subscriber with the amount of effort and detail that you've obviously put into this. Love your work
I have a 2004 360 spider with a manual shift with 18k. I have owned it for 5 years I have had no problems with it. It is a blast to drive. I also a have a 2008 Porsche Cayman S and 2020 Corvette as my other mid engine cars. Love the look and the handling of these cars. As always love your insight to the market. I am with you, I need my brain to help my heart to say it is OK to buy the cars I own.
Very nice. I'm buying a gated spider very soon. I have a few other manuals. Cayman S in one and turbo S. I think Gated ferrari is ICONIC... WOW
This channel is criminally underrated
Lawrence L. Or cap
Lawrence L. Cap is better than nothing tho
Great video! You helped me a lot. Thank you 🙏🏽
My last service on the 360 was less than the scheduled service on my wife’s Mercedes ML300
Outstanding analysis. I’ve been watching your channel for a long time and you do a great job! Keep up the great work!
Awesome to hear that you like the channel.
been watching you for a while! You helped me buy a cayman at the perfect time, and I am even in the money on the purchase, zero loss. I am curious if you could do videos on the "collector" side of japanese cars, like NSX, GTR, and for me, even the STI, haha. I want to buy an STI but need those sweet financials that you break down so well
Good work! Very informative!
Long time watcher, first time commenter - great job with these analysis videos - so good & underrated! I want to know more about your story!!
Thanks! Perhaps i should a Q&A video at some point.
I’m about to get my first car and I’m in between the 360 and F430 but so hard to choose, thank you for this video!
I have a F430 Spider with 22K miles that's been in my garage forever... I still love the sound of NA engine, Pinin Farina design doesn't get old looking at it. I love the analog cars and will keep this baby as long as I can where I could add another recent model soon. I have not paid attention to the market price of 360/430 but this information is very useful. I can convince my wife that adding another prancing horse is better than selling mine and trade.. Thank you...
Great video, great channel.
Great content. Dodge Viper pls. Lots of action lately
I get a lot of requests for these but i need to do some research into that market. It's rather foreign to me.
This channel should have more subscribers
Interesting ones would be the SLS AMG, SLR AMG, maybach 57
whats your thoughts on converting F1 to Manual. There are now some kits or also with OEM. I mean with price predictions?
Can you do a comparison between 458 and 488 please
Pls do the 550 575 Maranello
Another update on the 458 would be cool. Bought one in January put 3000 miles on it and could still sell it for a $20,000 profit
It's in the pipeline
Could you look at the Mercedes G Class next ?
So if you take in account the maintenance annually your looking at a 4-5% increase on the right Ferrari with the right specs between these models. Not bad. Its like owning Coke stock but you can drive and enjoy it.
I find it hard to believe that there are about six or seven 360s for sale in the US with milage below 10,000 miles. You'd have to wonder whether all these cars a showing genuine milage.
Great info! I sent to my friend who owns a 360. How about the first gen Lamborghini gallardos? 2004-2008.
I have an older video on the Gallardos: ruclips.net/video/nUhvNeEknOc/видео.html
@@fourwheeltrader I think I did see that one. Things have just gotten insane lately with prices all over the place and so few available. This market is crazy right now. It’s like everyone won the lottery and is buying exotics. Great channel! 👍👍
the modern turbo charges 488 and F8 whilst much faster, was not as involving as a manual 360/430. The only Ferrari better than the manual 360 are the manual 430 or perhaps manual 599
Audi s5 please
Until yours cracks one of its exhaust manifolds and it's going to be $9,000 to replace it .........
It really is stretching statistics a little far to come up with these conclusions on such tiny data sets. The issue with both cars and their spider/coupe, manual/F1 variants is that each data point reflects one car, whose value will be greatly influenced by its condition. I've seen a 5000 mile F430 that was a shed and a 30,000 mile 360 that was as it left the factory. The dealer had a higher sticker on the 360 just because of its presentation. There is also the factor of sellers' unrealistic expectations when placing their ads. I'm afraid that after long experience when I see a graph that looks like someone's fired a shotgun at it I don't expect much from any regression analysis and if the trend is then quoted to 4 significant figures I disgard it.
The conclusions which are not based on the full data set indeed need to be interpreted with care as the data is limited. I try to make the viewer aware of this by mentioning it several times and also removing the lines from the graphs.
@@fourwheeltrader The reason we need these videos posted IS because of the small market and limited sales data. That way we can comment and help each other out in the supercar community. The nuances between each spec of the car also make each conversation interesting. I know you stated the total production numbers. It would be awesome to be able to drill down and know how many colors of each car were produced, etc. for US market. Modena vs spider vs manual vs F1. (How many rosso, giallo, nero, pozzi, etc) I am not sure if any accurate prod numbers were ever released?
I have 2 360s
Maybe audi rs5 or rs7
the appreciation of potentially collectable cars just tells us that people with money are just fucking out of ideas where else to put their cash. Stocks, real estate, meme coins, ntfs, cars. On the other hand people without money have a hard time finding a decent whatever. Decent space to live foremost. Crazy, just crazy. I mean, what the actual fuck.
Theres no automatic gearbox 360
The F1 can also be driven in automatic mode.
@@dimitrianid2417 Yes but its not automatic gearbox, its robotized manual. Hydraulic mechanism operated that manual transmission, and its not designed to used continuously in automatic mode, because that's when it works clunky and eat more clutch.
You better hurry up and sell. The Corvette C8 is coming to Europe next year, and its a hard sell to buy a Ferrari thats not even close to being as good.
Sure the Casio keeps much better time than my Daytona too.....
@@2006Vantage GM is making a whole lot of Ferrari owners look ridiculous.
@@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 I’m assuming Casio owners are probably incorrectly thinking the same when they look down at their watch too.
@@2006Vantage Not even close to a analogy. The C8 stingray is better in every metric possible to a 458. Your only buying a name in 2021. This isnt the old NSX scenario either. GM is just making better cars these days.
@@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 I fear you have unfortunately missed my point. Different tools that provide different experiences that ultimately do the same thing.
If you’re just looking at numbers on paper and the cost associated then yes. The corvette is objectively “better”, no different than a seiko keeps better time than any of my Rolex’s (and it does a lot of other things auto watches can’t). Unfortunately what you’re missing is the other attributes that are a bit more subjective and harder to quantify. Like how the car makes you feel. How the car looks. How the car sounds. In my experience these measurements that you can’t report in a magazine’s test are far more valuable. I mean heck on paper my Aston Martin V8 Vantage is a dog. You could say Chevrolet was embarrassing Aston Martin owners and we all should sell when I bought mine 12 years ago. But I still own it 12 years later because every time I get in it it makes me feel special, and every time I get out I still turn around to look at it once walking away. No Corvette does that to or for me. It may for others though.
And while the new Corvette is absolutely capable it doesn’t have near the soul of my 430 Scud. We won’t even start talking about values. If your warning all Ferrari owners that they should sell their Ferraris because there is a capable Corvette, then why has my Scud gone up $40K in value since June. Oh and the new Corvettes been out that entire time....
Making a blanket statement like people should hurry up and sell because of one car makes you sound ignorant. Many of us have several different cars for different purposes which stimulate different things. And not everybody appreciates the exact same vehicle. Lots of my friends here have supercars and none of them cross shop them with base Corvettes. Now when the Z06 comes out I fully intend on giving it a look.