I have a 2004 360 spider with a manual shift with 18k. I have owned it for 5 years I have had no problems with it. It is a blast to drive. I also a have a 2008 Porsche Cayman S and 2020 Corvette as my other mid engine cars. Love the look and the handling of these cars. As always love your insight to the market. I am with you, I need my brain to help my heart to say it is OK to buy the cars I own.
I rarely comment or like videos. But you gained yourself a new subscriber with the amount of effort and detail that you've obviously put into this. Love your work
I have a F430 Spider with 22K miles that's been in my garage forever... I still love the sound of NA engine, Pinin Farina design doesn't get old looking at it. I love the analog cars and will keep this baby as long as I can where I could add another recent model soon. I have not paid attention to the market price of 360/430 but this information is very useful. I can convince my wife that adding another prancing horse is better than selling mine and trade.. Thank you...
been watching you for a while! You helped me buy a cayman at the perfect time, and I am even in the money on the purchase, zero loss. I am curious if you could do videos on the "collector" side of japanese cars, like NSX, GTR, and for me, even the STI, haha. I want to buy an STI but need those sweet financials that you break down so well
@@fourwheeltrader I think I did see that one. Things have just gotten insane lately with prices all over the place and so few available. This market is crazy right now. It’s like everyone won the lottery and is buying exotics. Great channel! 👍👍
So if you take in account the maintenance annually your looking at a 4-5% increase on the right Ferrari with the right specs between these models. Not bad. Its like owning Coke stock but you can drive and enjoy it.
the modern turbo charges 488 and F8 whilst much faster, was not as involving as a manual 360/430. The only Ferrari better than the manual 360 are the manual 430 or perhaps manual 599
I find it hard to believe that there are about six or seven 360s for sale in the US with milage below 10,000 miles. You'd have to wonder whether all these cars a showing genuine milage.
It really is stretching statistics a little far to come up with these conclusions on such tiny data sets. The issue with both cars and their spider/coupe, manual/F1 variants is that each data point reflects one car, whose value will be greatly influenced by its condition. I've seen a 5000 mile F430 that was a shed and a 30,000 mile 360 that was as it left the factory. The dealer had a higher sticker on the 360 just because of its presentation. There is also the factor of sellers' unrealistic expectations when placing their ads. I'm afraid that after long experience when I see a graph that looks like someone's fired a shotgun at it I don't expect much from any regression analysis and if the trend is then quoted to 4 significant figures I disgard it.
The conclusions which are not based on the full data set indeed need to be interpreted with care as the data is limited. I try to make the viewer aware of this by mentioning it several times and also removing the lines from the graphs.
@@fourwheeltrader The reason we need these videos posted IS because of the small market and limited sales data. That way we can comment and help each other out in the supercar community. The nuances between each spec of the car also make each conversation interesting. I know you stated the total production numbers. It would be awesome to be able to drill down and know how many colors of each car were produced, etc. for US market. Modena vs spider vs manual vs F1. (How many rosso, giallo, nero, pozzi, etc) I am not sure if any accurate prod numbers were ever released?
the appreciation of potentially collectable cars just tells us that people with money are just fucking out of ideas where else to put their cash. Stocks, real estate, meme coins, ntfs, cars. On the other hand people without money have a hard time finding a decent whatever. Decent space to live foremost. Crazy, just crazy. I mean, what the actual fuck.
@@dimitrianid2417 Yes but its not automatic gearbox, its robotized manual. Hydraulic mechanism operated that manual transmission, and its not designed to used continuously in automatic mode, because that's when it works clunky and eat more clutch.
You better hurry up and sell. The Corvette C8 is coming to Europe next year, and its a hard sell to buy a Ferrari thats not even close to being as good.
@@2006Vantage Not even close to a analogy. The C8 stingray is better in every metric possible to a 458. Your only buying a name in 2021. This isnt the old NSX scenario either. GM is just making better cars these days.
@@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 I fear you have unfortunately missed my point. Different tools that provide different experiences that ultimately do the same thing. If you’re just looking at numbers on paper and the cost associated then yes. The corvette is objectively “better”, no different than a seiko keeps better time than any of my Rolex’s (and it does a lot of other things auto watches can’t). Unfortunately what you’re missing is the other attributes that are a bit more subjective and harder to quantify. Like how the car makes you feel. How the car looks. How the car sounds. In my experience these measurements that you can’t report in a magazine’s test are far more valuable. I mean heck on paper my Aston Martin V8 Vantage is a dog. You could say Chevrolet was embarrassing Aston Martin owners and we all should sell when I bought mine 12 years ago. But I still own it 12 years later because every time I get in it it makes me feel special, and every time I get out I still turn around to look at it once walking away. No Corvette does that to or for me. It may for others though. And while the new Corvette is absolutely capable it doesn’t have near the soul of my 430 Scud. We won’t even start talking about values. If your warning all Ferrari owners that they should sell their Ferraris because there is a capable Corvette, then why has my Scud gone up $40K in value since June. Oh and the new Corvettes been out that entire time.... Making a blanket statement like people should hurry up and sell because of one car makes you sound ignorant. Many of us have several different cars for different purposes which stimulate different things. And not everybody appreciates the exact same vehicle. Lots of my friends here have supercars and none of them cross shop them with base Corvettes. Now when the Z06 comes out I fully intend on giving it a look.
*Which car would you like to see analysed next?*
458
@@19poundpound94 That could definitely use a market update
@Giovanni Almeida I have an older video on the 488 vs 458 but it needs a big update.
Bentley Continental GT
F12/f13/f06 BMW M6!
This channel is criminally underrated
Lawrence L. Or cap
Lawrence L. Cap is better than nothing tho
I have a 2004 360 spider with a manual shift with 18k. I have owned it for 5 years I have had no problems with it. It is a blast to drive. I also a have a 2008 Porsche Cayman S and 2020 Corvette as my other mid engine cars. Love the look and the handling of these cars. As always love your insight to the market. I am with you, I need my brain to help my heart to say it is OK to buy the cars I own.
Very nice. I'm buying a gated spider very soon. I have a few other manuals. Cayman S in one and turbo S. I think Gated ferrari is ICONIC... WOW
I rarely comment or like videos. But you gained yourself a new subscriber with the amount of effort and detail that you've obviously put into this. Love your work
Long time watcher, first time commenter - great job with these analysis videos - so good & underrated! I want to know more about your story!!
Thanks! Perhaps i should a Q&A video at some point.
Outstanding analysis. I’ve been watching your channel for a long time and you do a great job! Keep up the great work!
Awesome to hear that you like the channel.
Great content. Dodge Viper pls. Lots of action lately
I get a lot of requests for these but i need to do some research into that market. It's rather foreign to me.
My last service on the 360 was less than the scheduled service on my wife’s Mercedes ML300
I have a F430 Spider with 22K miles that's been in my garage forever... I still love the sound of NA engine, Pinin Farina design doesn't get old looking at it. I love the analog cars and will keep this baby as long as I can where I could add another recent model soon. I have not paid attention to the market price of 360/430 but this information is very useful. I can convince my wife that adding another prancing horse is better than selling mine and trade.. Thank you...
been watching you for a while! You helped me buy a cayman at the perfect time, and I am even in the money on the purchase, zero loss. I am curious if you could do videos on the "collector" side of japanese cars, like NSX, GTR, and for me, even the STI, haha. I want to buy an STI but need those sweet financials that you break down so well
Great video! You helped me a lot. Thank you 🙏🏽
This channel should have more subscribers
I’m about to get my first car and I’m in between the 360 and F430 but so hard to choose, thank you for this video!
Same me and i dont know what buy , for me 360 much preety
Interesting ones would be the SLS AMG, SLR AMG, maybach 57
Great info! I sent to my friend who owns a 360. How about the first gen Lamborghini gallardos? 2004-2008.
I have an older video on the Gallardos: ruclips.net/video/nUhvNeEknOc/видео.html
@@fourwheeltrader I think I did see that one. Things have just gotten insane lately with prices all over the place and so few available. This market is crazy right now. It’s like everyone won the lottery and is buying exotics. Great channel! 👍👍
Good work! Very informative!
whats your thoughts on converting F1 to Manual. There are now some kits or also with OEM. I mean with price predictions?
don't forget that 360 and 430 are the last V8 gated manual you can ever find...so prices will grow up each year😉
Another update on the 458 would be cool. Bought one in January put 3000 miles on it and could still sell it for a $20,000 profit
It's in the pipeline
So if you take in account the maintenance annually your looking at a 4-5% increase on the right Ferrari with the right specs between these models. Not bad. Its like owning Coke stock but you can drive and enjoy it.
Great video, great channel.
Pls do the 550 575 Maranello
Could you look at the Mercedes G Class next ?
the modern turbo charges 488 and F8 whilst much faster, was not as involving as a manual 360/430. The only Ferrari better than the manual 360 are the manual 430 or perhaps manual 599
Can you do a comparison between 458 and 488 please
I find it hard to believe that there are about six or seven 360s for sale in the US with milage below 10,000 miles. You'd have to wonder whether all these cars a showing genuine milage.
It really is stretching statistics a little far to come up with these conclusions on such tiny data sets. The issue with both cars and their spider/coupe, manual/F1 variants is that each data point reflects one car, whose value will be greatly influenced by its condition. I've seen a 5000 mile F430 that was a shed and a 30,000 mile 360 that was as it left the factory. The dealer had a higher sticker on the 360 just because of its presentation. There is also the factor of sellers' unrealistic expectations when placing their ads. I'm afraid that after long experience when I see a graph that looks like someone's fired a shotgun at it I don't expect much from any regression analysis and if the trend is then quoted to 4 significant figures I disgard it.
The conclusions which are not based on the full data set indeed need to be interpreted with care as the data is limited. I try to make the viewer aware of this by mentioning it several times and also removing the lines from the graphs.
@@fourwheeltrader The reason we need these videos posted IS because of the small market and limited sales data. That way we can comment and help each other out in the supercar community. The nuances between each spec of the car also make each conversation interesting. I know you stated the total production numbers. It would be awesome to be able to drill down and know how many colors of each car were produced, etc. for US market. Modena vs spider vs manual vs F1. (How many rosso, giallo, nero, pozzi, etc) I am not sure if any accurate prod numbers were ever released?
the appreciation of potentially collectable cars just tells us that people with money are just fucking out of ideas where else to put their cash. Stocks, real estate, meme coins, ntfs, cars. On the other hand people without money have a hard time finding a decent whatever. Decent space to live foremost. Crazy, just crazy. I mean, what the actual fuck.
Until yours cracks one of its exhaust manifolds and it's going to be $9,000 to replace it .........
Audi s5 please
I have 2 360s
Maybe audi rs5 or rs7
Theres no automatic gearbox 360
The F1 can also be driven in automatic mode.
@@dimitrianid2417 Yes but its not automatic gearbox, its robotized manual. Hydraulic mechanism operated that manual transmission, and its not designed to used continuously in automatic mode, because that's when it works clunky and eat more clutch.
You better hurry up and sell. The Corvette C8 is coming to Europe next year, and its a hard sell to buy a Ferrari thats not even close to being as good.
Sure the Casio keeps much better time than my Daytona too.....
@@2006Vantage GM is making a whole lot of Ferrari owners look ridiculous.
@@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 I’m assuming Casio owners are probably incorrectly thinking the same when they look down at their watch too.
@@2006Vantage Not even close to a analogy. The C8 stingray is better in every metric possible to a 458. Your only buying a name in 2021. This isnt the old NSX scenario either. GM is just making better cars these days.
@@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 I fear you have unfortunately missed my point. Different tools that provide different experiences that ultimately do the same thing.
If you’re just looking at numbers on paper and the cost associated then yes. The corvette is objectively “better”, no different than a seiko keeps better time than any of my Rolex’s (and it does a lot of other things auto watches can’t). Unfortunately what you’re missing is the other attributes that are a bit more subjective and harder to quantify. Like how the car makes you feel. How the car looks. How the car sounds. In my experience these measurements that you can’t report in a magazine’s test are far more valuable. I mean heck on paper my Aston Martin V8 Vantage is a dog. You could say Chevrolet was embarrassing Aston Martin owners and we all should sell when I bought mine 12 years ago. But I still own it 12 years later because every time I get in it it makes me feel special, and every time I get out I still turn around to look at it once walking away. No Corvette does that to or for me. It may for others though.
And while the new Corvette is absolutely capable it doesn’t have near the soul of my 430 Scud. We won’t even start talking about values. If your warning all Ferrari owners that they should sell their Ferraris because there is a capable Corvette, then why has my Scud gone up $40K in value since June. Oh and the new Corvettes been out that entire time....
Making a blanket statement like people should hurry up and sell because of one car makes you sound ignorant. Many of us have several different cars for different purposes which stimulate different things. And not everybody appreciates the exact same vehicle. Lots of my friends here have supercars and none of them cross shop them with base Corvettes. Now when the Z06 comes out I fully intend on giving it a look.