Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis’ relationship with Scientology | 60 Minutes Australia
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One-time sitcom actor and well-known devotee of Scientology, Danny Masterson, is now also a convicted rapist. Last week he was jailed for 30 years for drugging and sexually assaulting two women in 2003. Masterson’s trial attracted enormous attention, not only because of his fame and violent crimes. The Church of Scientology was also condemned, accused of going to extraordinary lengths to protect its star recruit from prosecution.
But what’s been revealed since Masterson’s sentencing is causing more controversy. The disgraced actor received substantial support from fellow Hollywood celebrities including Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis. In letters to the judge asking for leniency for Masterson, the married couple described their friend more like a saint than a sinner. They said he was a role model and an exceptional character. Not surprisingly their comments have caused outrage.
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“This is a criminal organization pretending to be a religion”
Best words ever spoken.
Applies to all religions
@@sambathehusqueen9909💯
I know , it's outrageous!
@@sambathehusqueen9909 wrong
@@sambathehusqueen9909 Including Atheism.
No organization with a rule of “don’t report crimes to police” should be legal
In the cos. There are no victims.
Just like the Catholic Church.
This
Or the republican party, or half of wall street
I agree
Listen, I dumped my own brother when I found out he was abusing his partner. Not only this, I supported his partner. I never spoke to my brother after that. All other siblings dumped me after this and I haven't spoken to my parents since, as they wanted to support him. Doing the right thing may be hard and there is a cost to it; but it's the right thing to do. I have no Hollywood money but I prefer to do what is right, not what is popular.
You are truly a good and brave person to do that not many people would do that
@@angelaholmes8888 Thank you Angela. Everyone loses, but I did not want her to lose her life.
@@Levy-Pants_company Thank you for your comment. I did confront him. He got defensive. I could help no longer. She was the person at risk and her kids. Not the abuser.
@@Levy-Pants_companyok you’ve let us know you would stand by a man that abuses women. Bravo to you. Now go and hang with your own kind.
You cannot be bought. God bless you, keep your heart full of love.
Mila is absolutely **fizzing** with anger. Eyebrow flashes, clenching her jaw, lips twitching, carefully monitoring Ashton. Amazing to watch.
She is like a snake preparing to bite.
She was thinking of their money and elaborate lifestyle and how it will be diminished.
I’ve never been able to stand her or him. She seems really mean and he was emotionally abusive to Demi Moore. They are both gross.
Idk, I see anger too, and annoyance. However, I think it's because she has to apologize and probably found out some of Ashtons secrets. I think it's the annoyance of having to apologize, and trying to keep her husband's skeletons I the closet. Her energy was not right.
Never u til recently had I known she was 14 when she began that show.
14🫣. I mean what do I know.
But boy i worry about kids in Hollywood. A lot.
Scientology needs to be disbanded
At least revoke their tax-exempt status.
They have too much power and bribing Hollywood’s and courts to allow predators to roam free. Sick of them. Enough of Scientology.
All religion should be banned. It is ridiculous, imaginary friends. Religion was made up by cavemen to explain natural phenomenon and no magical skywizards exist. In my opinion. Facts
You can’t. They are protected by the constitution.
@@OoOMonkeyCoFreakOoO But they are a cult, not a religion, and they are guilty of emotional, physical, and monetary harm
I am LIVING for 60 Minutes Australia’s coverage of Scientology. Y’all have been on a roll!!
Right?! They get right in there no matter what the risk
Aussies don't scare easily.
We know what B.S is when we smell it lol
60 Minutes Australia is better than the American version.
@@helenwalker5704 yeah? no.
If ONLY 60 Minutes in the USA could be so honest as this !! Thank you!!
I love that 60 mins Australia has it out for the church.
Sorry, kids. The issue isn't with how he conducted himself around adults or friends, the issue is how he conducted himself around vulnerable women when no one else was watching.
Exactly!
Actually, there were plenty of people watching, plenty who should have had their spidey sense go off like a rocket whenever Danny hosted one of his house parties, or when he adopted "DJ Donkey Punch" as his moniker for music DJ. I would not recommend looking up Donkey Punch; it is a criminal act, a physical assault designed to force victims of both sexes into anal sex.
Brie Shaffer (sp), his handler, apparently had been aware of Dannie's familiarity with roofies and date rape drugs. Of course he was himself a budding drug addict with alcohol his drug of choice (reportedly he was kept in the medical wing of jail to detox him from alcohol addiction, a potentially deadly medical issue.
His friend Luke Watson tried to prevent Danny from taking a drugged JD upstairs to his bedroom and bathroom, ostensibly to clean her up because the drugs caused her to vomit. But when he got her naked in the shower, he joined her, himself naked and aroused. What happened next is sworn court testimony by the victim, but also described in detail by Masterson in one of his initial reports to Scientology.
Valmar V., another cast member of that 70s show, was conspicuous by his absence in not writing a glowing letter about Danny. Why was that?
The issue is these people wrote those letters AFTER they knew he was found guilty, and they both knew two of the victims personally. Who they didn’t apologise to. Just victims in general. It was a piss poor apology, plus would YOU ask for leniency for a anyone who had been convicted of those types of crimes? I wouldn’t even stay their friend.
Oh and he also drugged a woman in FRONT of his wife. people knew, people saw.
Exactly. A true character of a person is what they do when no one is looking
@@kosmickrysti The purpose of the letters was to try to convince them to go easy on the sentencing.
Scientology needs to be charged, shut down, and prosecuted. It's a cult not a religion period.
I wouldn’t even call it a cult, it’s a multi billion company that doesn’t pay taxes because it pretends to be a religion. And if Scientology can call itself a religion it’s beyond me why corporations such as Apple can also just call themselves a religion and stop paying tax…
All religions are imaginary. 4000 odd religions, but "yours" is always the only true magical skywizard. Ridiculous. Grow up. Zero evidence for any magical skywizards
What's the difference?
@@therookiesplaybook Fair gaming, child slave labor, human trafficking, cover up of crimes, destruction of families come to mind.
Unfortunately, in the USA cults are not illegal. Cults that have been prosecuted and shut down have been targeted by prosecution for other crimes (examples: child labor, gun running, sex trafficking, fraud, child SA.)
"They were intended for the judge to read". Direct quote from Ashton. Coded wording for "we didn't think it would be made public".
I hope to live to see the end of Scientology, and proper Justice delivered to the perpetrators at the head of the organization.
Yes so right…they need to be shut down
"A criminal organization pretending to be a religion."
Exactly. THANK YOU 60 minutes Australia for being one of the few
media organizations to report this correctly !!!!
Indeed just like most cult's!😏👍
Brainwashed is a Scientologist. Very scary organization.
Like the Church
@@squigglove
The Vatican
It is a religion. All religions have done fucked up shit.
What’s really outrageous is that it took 20 years for the victims to have justice.
Thats mainly because these people were involved in a religious cult that didnt allow people to talk to police.
It is. It's also outrageous how many victims never get any justice and then have to deal with victim shaming from law enforcement and too often society in general, especially when the victims develop PTSD and substance abuse issues in the aftermath.
It should be a statute of limitation. 20 years are far to late to be a legit accusation. People must have personal responsibility to follow cult rules. Sweden had a limit within 15 y for rape up until recently. Apparently it have been a trend to remove statute of limitation for rape. I don’t agree with that trend. It was too long ago and the sentence was far to harsh. 25 years counts as lifetime in Sweden.
@@uncle_podcast5332I'm glad the vast majority of people and countries disagree with you.
Some blame has to be on the cult of Scientology!
Ashton and Mila tried to distance themselves by saying we’re sorry about the pain “the letter” has caused all victims. As if the letter wrote itself. No, Ashton and Mila, you two hurt victims. Own it.
They didn't think those letters were ever going to see the light of day lmao. They definitely thought that only the judge or jury would read the letters.
"the letters were meant for the judge" means "we wanted it to be something we do behind the back of the public"
Considering the reaction from certain members of the public, understandable.
Nail = Head
subtext, baby lol exactly
yeah, they were given to the judge, and the lawyers ASKED if the judge would PLEASE keep them private. but the judge is not required to honor such requests, and had even told the lawyers early on, gave them a warning, that she doesnt mess around with making stuff private without actual reasons, someone's safety NEEDS protection, sources need protection, etc. Danny Masterson's family reached out to all the letter writers and asked for the letters, which they collected and gave to the lawyer, who then gave them to the judge. At the end of the day, they put their faith in a Masterson, and they got effed. Seems to be the way of things, they should have known that better than most.
Accurate translation.
Ashton and Mila 100% knew. They personally knew the victims. Bijou knew, too. Aaron Smith-Levin, a former Scientologist, has a channel where he goes into detail about all of it.
The TikTok lady's story about Bijou is so wild.
One post here mentioned Mila & Ashton could have been pressured by Scientologists to write those letters and I believe that is entirely possible. Scientology is incredibly crafty and manipulative, especially their attorneys.
@@SeattleScottywhat channel is it?? How do we look it up??
@@justmissjameyyoutube.com/@GrowingUpInScientology?si=-Bqd4A6fzgR9p4cB
Channel of growing up in scientology (aaron's channel)
Thank you 60 Minutes Australia for not pushing the info about this cult under the rug like most of news stations do!
Scientology and Ashton and Mila protected this man - 😮 my heart goes out to the victims. If it were their daughter would they still have written letters of support 🤔
'A criminal organization pretending to be a religion'
Hit the nail on the head!
You KNOW your "religion" is actually a CULT, when its leaders have to keep running into hiding! L Ron Hubbard ran into hiding for the last several years of his life, ...and David Miscavige is perpetually avoiding process servers, and has multiple getaway cars and supplies ready at all times, for when he too, will need to scurry into hiding!
Thank you to the victims for having gone through the testimonies, - without you, we would have no light into this. And thank you 60 minutes for the report also.
They are so brave.
Yes, right years later seem fishy to me
@@monikdarcy1614learn about the case and scientology, maybe it'll help you understand
Yes! No need to thank them. Offer them money for their words and then you’ll hear these women for the first time talk louder and lie
@@WhatisahandlehuhSo you support a convicted rapist? Why would you openly admit to being a rape apologist in a public comment section.
It's possible that these letters outraged the judge as well and he decided to send a strong message to those who need to hear this.
hats off to 60 minutes Australia for having the courage and bravery to expose these celebs and the cult
My husband worked at a restaurant that Danny Masterson ate at in 2008, and he was rude and abusive to the staff, and acted very entitled, asking a member of staff “do you know who I am?”. So I’m not surprised to find out he’s a terrible person.
yeah people take that behavior litely. i do not. im in the field of abuse and know that entitlement is the root to most abuse of any kind. if someone acts like this in public its to be taken very serious as a link to what they are like when dealing with consent, dealing with intimate moments with their partners and so on
Thank you for sharing that story.
I hope that he's the guy that ate some food that had something disgusting done to it, that night. I don't know why people ever think its a good idea to be a herk to people that prepare and handle their food and drinks! Most won't do anything, but some will!
I would have answered no. No one has heard from him until his fall. Thank goodness finally shit people get caught out
he wasn't kind when serially raping women, and hitler was said to have good table manners...@@xiomanaxoxoxo3212
Would these two had been sorry if those letters weren't made public ??
Not!
What occurs in the dark is being brought to light.
Thank you 60 Minutes Australia for Scientology and others involved in all if this criminal activity.
We as humanity need to shut down these crimes against humanity with brisk care.
Look
to protect the children
Listen
to the children
Speak Loudly
against those harming the children ❤
Australia's 60 minutes always produces the best news reports , unlike the rest of the world they dont use politics either just the cold hard truth backed up by facts, always watch 60 minutes and i live in Ireland , well done again
Masterson was not sentenced to 30 years. He was sentenced to life with eligibility for release in 30 years. "30 years to life" = a life sentence with possibility for release
Exactly! In 30 years he will be eligible for a parole review, which is the earliest he could theoretically be released.
But even if does get out he will be 77 years old at best, with parole for the rest of his days.
That is an extremely long time. I wish our society had a better way of rehabilitating criminals. Why some criminals are in and out of prison in a short time and others spend 30 years don't always make sense to me.
Well that's even better news😊
@@gailflanagan1214California laws on forcible sex offenses are long as or sometimes longer then murder penalties
He'll be out in 6!
It seems like Topher Grace was the only normal guy to come out of That 70's show. He was the smart one who stayed away from them after hours when they partyed. His wife is also someone I admire for the statement she made on behalf of the victims. They're what you call a "power couple." Ashton and Mila couldn't be any more disingenuous.
Yeah I have so much respect for topher and his wife
So grateful there are journalists like the both of you. It’s a relief to know there are “good guys” (and gals, Tara :). Keep reporting the truth - this world desperately needs it. 💔💔💔🤙🏼
Tara, PLEASE cover the conspiracy around Maui. Hawaii and the worldwide surf community are hurting terribly.
How dare they say that they weren't calling the victims liars, but that's ESSENTIALLY EXACTLY what they convey in their letter. It's so gross. They deserve every bit of backlash they get. They were probably paid for it.... now they will go down in history as the couple that plead on behalf of a rapist. We can't unsee it now! Every movie and show will be tainted with their disgusting attemp to lessen jail time for a rapist....
Or blackmailed?
Ashton a Mila not only stood by Masterson after his conviction portraying him as a role model and totally dismissing the victims ( which they actually knew) but to downsize the whole thing making it revolve around him apposing drugs! This absolute disregard for the victims for someone 'they thought they knew' is astonishing. Shame on Kutcher and Kunis
Bet they wouldn't want him alone with their kids.😮😮
Disgusting!
EXACTLY, rape and drug use are totally different things!!Why even mention it
@@RoHeart01 the women accused him of drugging them, I'm pretty sure. So saying "oh no he hated drugs" is just subtly delegitimising the victims, arguing that he hated drugs so he wouldn't have drugged his victims, so they're lying
It's subtle and so manipulative
@@violet7773 That's disgusting to say the least. I wasn't aware of that. This makes it all the more sick of Mila and Ashton
Let me make this clear. DM was convicted to LIFE in prison with consideration of parole in 30 years. Every single news outlet gets this wrong. He received a life sentence.😊
Thank you for clarifying. You are correct. 30 to life. They neglect to say the "life" part.
Yes, I came to the comments to say just that! Life with possibility of parole after 30 years.
you got it wrong, too. he’ll actually be considered for parole in 25.5 years. he has to serve at least 80% of his sentence before he can go before the parole board. danny masterson will probably have his conviction overturned to 15 years in his appeal anyway.
This!!
💯
I'm a 70 year old female...and ALL of my life I kept hoping/believing/sometimes pretending that things weren't this bad for women, or things would get better for woman...BUT ALAS, I was wrong...
Thank God for 'ME TOO" for, at least, bringing this out in the open, and forcing our society to REALLY look at all of this...This has been swept under the run for my whole life...almost no one believes women (sadly, even other women) when they attempt to be heard...
In my experience little, or nothing has changed since 1953...well, maybe we are a little better about talking about this stuff...
It breaks my heart the way the women are disregarded...
I‘m 35 and I hear you. Thank you for speaking up about how horrid it really is and how disappointingly little has changed. I know so many women from all walks of life, and yet sexism and abuse is a recurring theme throughout all their lives.
Same here. I had hope when I was 18. No more. The only change is different rapers/abusers of women.
Amidst the horrible situation I cannot help but chuckle at how Mila can't act to save her life.
Ashtons no actor either. Talentless couple.
I wish more American news organizations would start reporting and being brave like the victims of this cult.
Tony Ortega is also following the Leia Remi trial.
america is run by those with the most $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Scientology probably has them by the...
Several shows and docs about it in the States
They do.
No one knew about what the BTK killer was up to because he was 'always a nice guy and baked cakes for the church'. No one really KNOWS another person really is capable of doing! The cult of Scientology needed to be held accountable for their part in this matter.
I would imagine being so suppressed brings out the demons in some members… you can’t treat human beings the way Scientology treats its members…. The brief brush I had with Scientology showed me this “religion” is a complete money grab…
Exactly!
I think it's only a matter of time before it collapses in on itself. When it's leader and A list members die, I think many of them will jump ship rather than continue to live under the sword they hold over themselves and each other, including family. As it happens, the government will then reassess it's tax exemption and it will fully collapse.
And Ted Bundy was a charismatic, friendly man who was known to be a great friend and volunteered to answer phones for a suicide helpline! It's crazy that some people don't understand that bad people don't behave badly in their everyday lives around friends and family...because of fucking course not!
@@amenenema474I would totally do Ted Bundy 😅
Love how she said it as it is: RAPIST.
This woman slays so hard, love her
Thank you once again Australia for bringing this story unlike our 60 minutes in the US!! There is a story behind why Ashton has never apologized to the victims personally
for what he wrote to the judge about leniency for Danny. And he personally knew these woman as well, total disrespect for the victims. First he didn't know the public would read it only the judge he thought and secondly he hates the victims of the Masterson case! Story behind that one too! Ashton lost millions over that case and now is being fined by the SEC for trading securities! It can all be researched I have no more respect for Danny or Aston!
Honestly I’m so over the “celebrity”. They’re all such garbage at this point. And I think more will come out about Ashton and I hope it does.
Facts...Hollywood is disgusting
I feel the same way.
Same. They are a scary bunch.
Not all of us are heartless…😔
Aston Kutcher is a RED FLAG 🚩 Let's not forget that some of the women that Ashton Kutcher dated have somehow ended up dead. Two examples are Ashley Ellerin and Brittany Murphy. I find him to be a sneaky and suspicious person.
My friend was arrested for (and now convicted) of murder. He never showed any signs of violent behavior to me, but the moment I found out I knew I had to cut ties immediately. I felt terrified. I'm glad he will hopefully be behind bars forever.
Yes, look how liked and attractive Ted Bundy was, he volunteered on a help phone line along with a famous author, Ann Rule, who had no idea what he was doing.
He could be innocent too
@@peaceandlove544you say that as though any innocent person is being discussed here. But nope just a couple of violent men. Well done.
Wait a minute, why would you "cut ties immediately" with a friend? Do you know there are many people convicted who are innocent? Some friend you are. I would cut ties with you.
@@marahnathagilbert4139 I put my own safety first. I am female and he was arrested for multiple murders of women with DNA evidence. I was terrified.
You've been told to shut up Meg... 😂
It is very difficult to believe the worst of someone you've known for 25 years. There are people married to serial killers, and you wonder how they didn't know. It's not surprising his friends think he's innocent. No one hears something so outrageous and immediately turns on the person. They think there must be some mistake. So, i don't judge them for being misguided and their letters didn't change anything.
Yes! 👏 I'm glad more and more is being exposed in the media about this terrible organisation. Everything uncovered so far is just shocking..!!
Check your spelling before you post...
@@maximusmorphine2418 She may be from another country.
What I found so appalling was the fact that their letters never acknowledged what their friend did & his victims. They just ignored the whole thing.
The Jane Does know that Ashton actively HATES them. In his mind, THEY are why he lost out on a $40 million That 70s Show syndication deal, and THEY are why The Ranch got cancelled. Because the claims against Danny are what torpedoed those deals.... and for some reason, he doesn't blame Danny for any of it, he instead, blamed the women who accused him. Twisted logic.
@@filthforcehow do you know what's going on in his mind? Nice work of fiction though.
@@buckodonnghaile4309 Ashton was a bigwig in the production of The Ranch, and he mandated an atmosphere of nothing but contempt for ALL of the Jane Does. He held THEM responsible for, first That 70's Show losing syndication, $40 million gone there because of the stuff Danny did, and then, Danny got fired from The Ranch when Netflix finally reached out and told them, there's no way this moves forward with him, and then The Ranch itself is just done, because of the things Danny has done, and the Jane Does themselves reaching out to Netflix, encouraging them to take action.
There were a few people who worked on The Ranch who reached out to the Jane Does and others about things Ashton said, or, often SCREAMED, about them.
He usually used the b***h word when talking about them, saying they're crazy, etc.
They all have the impression Ashton hated them, people who worked under Ashton on The Ranch have said, he hated them. But yeah, it is true, I can;t see into his mind. The things he says/has said and how he's always acted towards them, suggests that he does hate them, though. And that was what, Jane Doe #3 said specifically, "Ashton hates us."
Note in his "apology" thing he did before getting kicked from THORN, he didn't apologize to them. That's a VERY interesting thing, because they were the parties that were most directly harmed, if any were.
It's my understanding that they were character letters meant to be submitted to the court in mitigation of Masterson's sentencing. I wouldn't expect them to acknowledge his guilt.
What *I* found most interesting is that their letters repeatedly talked about Danny being against *DRUG USAGE* but never mentioned that 📣 *Drugs Aren't the Reason He Was Prosecuted. He Was Prosecuted Because HE IS A RAPIST!!!!*
*I really appreciate these reports on the scientology criminal cult, 60 Minutes Australia! Thank you for being one of the FEW with journalistic integrity who are willing to be honest about that cult.*
60 Minutes Australia once again being far superior than their US counter part. Thank you for covering this.
This has been covered all over the US.
I agree. Thank you for this comment.
@@pamelac.3241she's referring to the US version of 60 Minutes..
This is not just a 60mnts report eveynews channel is reporting it .
Sixty Minutes in the USA is strictly a Democrat Propaganda show.
Keep reporting on this 60 MINUTES AUSTRALIA!! THANK YOU!!
Bear in mind that Ashton knew 2 of the victims (and according to Aaron smith levin, a former Scientologist who runs a great YT channel on Scientology related issues) said that when Ashton was told that Danny needed to be fired from the ranch, Ashton exclaimed something along the lines “it was that f*cking bitch” idk which victim he was alluding to but yeah, these show the real character of this couple and also Danny made a bet with Ashton when they filmed the first season of 70s show when mila was 14 and Ashton was 19 and mila had never been kissed but the $10 bet was to give her a French kiss….yeah
I haven't looked into the case but people need to stop thinking being convicted is the same as being guilty. The justice system gets it wrong pretty damn often and puts people in jail for crimes they never committed all the time
"'This is a criminal organization pretending to be a religion' - Tony Ortega" -- 👏👏👏👏well said my goodness!!!
Danny was sentenced to LIFE, with the chance of parole in 30 years; please make that clear.
60 minutes australia is better than anything on us tv. so glad I found it on yt.
Hope this gets viral enough to give victims courage to come out
I can't even imagine the amount of blackmail Scientology and DM has on Ashton and Mila
This! So many people don’t realise this.
it all starts with the serial killer case
He walked away from a crime scene knowing her gf was lying on the floor dead. Then he goes to the Grammys after party.
Exactly! They must have TONS of "collateral" on Kutcher and Kunis, as NXIVM would call it. It's always the same strategy among cults.
@@patz7214he went to a party right after finding his girlfriend dead??
"this is a criminal organization pretending to be a religion" if that doesnt give you the chills...
Word is, even though Ashton and Mila KNEW the victims, they couldn't even say their names. WHY? Probably because this trial cost each member of the 70s Show $20 million in lost royalties.
Some speculate they actually hate the victims for this. That makes sense - given how reticent and angry they look in their apology video.
I didn't think there could be a worse apology than Colleen Ballinger with her uke...but here we are 😂. Well done Ashton and Mila!
One of the worst apologies I’ve ever seen. Tossed off with no sincerity or feeling. A fake apology is worse than an apology.
They don't owe anyone an apology. It's their friend and you always defend a friend until it's proven to them. I'd stand behind a friend 100%
@@luthermacdonald8420 That's what I was gonna say. They shouldn't have to apologize. THEY thought their friend was innocent. If you think your friend is innocent of a crime, it's perfectly reasonable to want to defend them. A jurys decision isn't always right. I mean, look at O.J.
I agree. They had the right to support their friend even in this awfull situation. I dont know enough of the case. But they have the right to do so, if we like it or not.
I think what the program mentioned about living in a "bubble" is accurate. We are all insulated to a degree from the reality seen by others from the outside of that bubble.
@@mamarijkeTheir letters were written after he was found guilty.
“…but he was so nice to me! 🥺”
What clowns! 🤡🤡
Celebrities can really be on another level of psychopaths at worst or extremely out of touch at least.
Thankfully some of us celebrities actually have a heart.
@@khfan9437 okay, buddy.....doubt you are a celebrity
You always figure out who your friends are when the chips are down
Yeah,
One of the many problems was their apology seemed insincere, belligerent and at times angry. Plus all the other letters had this convicted rapist depicted as a man who walks on water while handing out loaves and fishes. It all smelled.
There's two important points that were left out of this interview. Ashton's foundation Thorn. If you aren't familiar, Google it. Second, their "apology". Mila's microexpressions, body language, like she was irritated, and the complete ingenuity of her PR scripted words. Out of all the celebrities that wrote character statements, that's why the public is singling them out.
Singling them out is ridiculous. For one you don’t always know who your friends are. You can think one thing and be totally wrong. I believe they are perfect and they are total monsters, just look at Ted Bundy most people that didn’t know about what he did thought he was a great guy. Second none of us know exactly what really happened except for the women and him. They are the only people that know what truly happened. He could’ve definitely done exactly what they said or things could be totally the opposite. Loads of people are falsely convicted all the time. Not saying that he was just saying anything is possible. So immediately blasting someone for sticking up for their friend, without also mentioning that they could be correct in their opinion and of his character. Because the only people that know the facts of the accusations are the ones that experienced it and lived it.
@joshnizzle let's look at this logically. Do you know the statistics of conviction rates for rape? There had to have been EVIDENCE for, at the time of the accusations, one 16 years old and the other 18 years old. He was accused in 2016, and they occurred in 2001 and 2003. The accused is a celebrity with money, a scientologist at that. To then get 30 years? It's shocking that he was sentenced that long. That old of a case and that kind of sentence, there was damning evidence. Of course you don't always know someone you think you know. But to hear all the evidence, listen to the victims impact statements, be the founder of Thorn, and STILL try to emphasize what a great guy he is, how anti drug he was, how he should, a convicted rapist who drugged his victims, should be around his DAUGHTER. Wake up.
as you dont know who your friends are, dont write letters to the judge on their behalf, AFTER they are convicted of rape. it's clear they dont believe the victims. otherwise, they wouldnt be writing those letters for their "friend" who never admitted to any wrong behaviour, let alone rape. @@joshnizzle
@@joshnizzle well, the "we don't know what really happened " doesn't apply in this case. There's a ton of evidence, DNA, written threats to the victims etc. We know exactly what happened in this case, that's why he got 30 years to life. And they decided to support a convicted, proven rap*st.
@@maxmeier532 oh so just because you don’t know for sure who they are you should never stand up for friends? Sounds like a narrow way of looking at the world. Plus from what I read they did it for his parents not him. And they haven’t been convicted of anything. Sounds like you’re just being quick to judge something you have ZERO first hand knowledge of. Where you there? Do you know what happened for sure? Or are you going by what prosecutors told you? I’m not saying he’s innocent I’m simply stating don’t be quick to assume he’s guilty because he is “convicted” that means nothing. If it did we wouldn’t have so many falsely accused people being found innocent years later. Now he probably did what they say he did but personally I can’t sit on my soap box and cast aspersions about people that I do not know and have never met. Maybe you can.
I love 60 mins Australia they are not afraid of Hollywood/Scientology bullshit.
When people write these character references all they're really saying is "he flattered me a LOT. Which means he's really nice."
Well, one does not want to lie.
Thank you 60min Australia! More light needs to be focused on, not only these two but many, many more!!! Bring them down!
Let's not forget that the church of scientology has a habit of collecting incredibly damning information on its affiliates and using it as blackmail once they need them to act in their favor. We have no idea what kind of pressure these two were under to write that letter in the first place
I wasn't aware that the kushtons were scientologist.
So? Own up to mistakes instead of letting yourself get blackmailed. 😂
@@terireed3740 They are not. The apparent pressure on Kutcher to write a glowing characterization of his BFF, allegedly stems from info Masterson has of some rather unsavoury and possible criminal behaviour perpetrated by none other than Kutcher himself. Hollyweird is nothing more than a cesspool of deviants.
@@judith3218 ty for the clarification, it makes sense.
Yes that could be true. And THAT shows us they have no character.
POST conviction plea for leniency on behalf of their friend?! Disgusting.
I’d hate to be your friend
@@mckernan603 If anyone I know - friend or family - asks for a character reference after being convicted of two counts of rape, there is no chance I am petitioning for leniency. None.
@@mckernan603 Enabling people to commit violent crimes is not friendship, it is blinkered ignorance and helps no one.
@@mckernan603 LOL, is 🍇-g your thing too? Xenu says hi 😁
@@MijoShrek You and I clearly have different definitions of "most people". 😺
They are ALL sick and need to go to jail! Like, yesterday!
Ashton and Mila still has not apologised to Jane Doe 1, 2 and 3…. Whilst apologising to victims in general is such pure BS and insincere.
I hope Ashton and Mila gets all the vitriol that comes their way. Sick bunch
Why should they apologise for describing their friend as he was to them, as they knew him?
@@olgab7067 they knew he was a serial rapist, that’s why!
@@elthamtreehugger5320 I know you are a serial rapist too, what this has to do with the letters? Speculating is easy, its easy to throw someone in jail for a life sentence, murderers do not get that many years, its insane.
@@olgab7067 pretty clear who is insane in this conversation. Ashton is protecting the rapist so the rapist doesn’t come clean on Ashton lying to police when his girlfriend at the time was murdered. A twisted web of liars and criminals
@@elthamtreehugger5320 exactly
Yes call out these Celebrities who condone and endorse this type of vile and sickening behavior
The problem with vouching for someone by how you see them in front of a camera at work leaves gapping holes for how someone conduct's themselves behind closed doors....
One correction: Masterson was sentenced to life, with the possibility of parole after serving his first 30 years in prison, for drugging, and raping two of his multiple sexual assault victims. For the Kutchers to write hyperbolic character letters, after his conviction, that made a mockery of their 'bestie's' crimes; it was reprehensible, disgusting, and unacceptable! Thanks for sharing this story; unfortunately, Masterson must have forgotten that he personally admitted to Scientology staff that he drugged, and raped another Scientologist, and wrote her a cheque for $400,000 US! Sherrey
If Scientology covered this up, that's a very serious problem. I wouldn't be surprised if they did. I also think that Mila and Ashton are being blackmailed.
Scientology is just another branch of the Church of satan. Hubbard was inspired by satanist Crowley, so yes, no surprises there.
I've never heard anything about either of them being scientologists
Omg.... look up "where is the Scientology leaders wife" she's been missing for years.... RISE AGAINST FRAUDS, INCLUDING RELIGION. We need to stop this bull
@@resoleccathey were involved in CoS events. Scientology will blackmail and harass anyone, you don’t have to be a paid up member to get that treatment.
It’s CoS policy to handle all crimes in house. They have rules about Scientologists reporting to police and they are not allowed to testify against each other. It’s mind blowing once you start diving into it.
They wrote the letters thinking they would be only for the judge. Even Ashton admits that much on the apology! The only reason they did the apology is because they were trying to do damage control on the surprise they received when they saw the letters being public. That’s why their apology is less than genuine. They are not actually sorry 🤷🏻♀️
why should they be sorry, are you sorry, alleged victims nothing to do with you or them.
@@user-yr4mo3iz4d yes, I’m actually sorry for the victims because I know how it feels. So there’s that. Not everyone has your psychopathic tendencies 🤷🏻♀️
the assertion that BOTH danny & Ashton were involved with drugging & abusing girls in the past is on this video (with Aaron on as a guest) on YT channel: Popcorned Planet - Does Scientology have blackmail material on Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis (posted around Sept 13) * near very end of the video!!!
They shouldn’t have to come out and apologize, it’s none of your business
Who would have thought that Ethan Suplee (the big guy from 'My Name is Earl') would be the only one smart enough to get his letter back before it was submitted?
Great reporting!
I am totally disgusted by Danny Masterson! And shocked by Ashton and Mika’s response🤮
Thank you for doing what American media is afraid to do
They’re not afraid to do it. American media revolves around omissions… it’s corporate media; they serve who funds them and who they know… with the guise of “free”, non propagandist media…
A non apology apology is worse than no real apology.
Will Smith is another example.
Yes, yes, yes! Thank you, Australia! I can't comprehend how/why us Americans are so forgiving of these snobby, "sorry not sorry" celebs. They say/do awful things and then give these facetious, insincere, and ridiculous "apologies" to save their careers/money.
It's disgusting.
@@PrincessofPower84 It's soo bizarre to watch. It's been happening forever I guess but now it's all for us to see. Tiffany Haddish and Louis CK are already back in the fold...But!!!
Never for this gal ‼️
The Jane Does themselves have said, they KNOW that Ashton HATES THEM. That's why he didn't apologize TO them, he isn't sorry to them, not at all. In his mind, "they" are the reason why he missed out on a $40 million deal for Netflix syndicating That 70's Show, and THEY are why he lost that other show he was doing, The Ranch. The accusations against Danny are what poisoned both projects, making Netflix back out... and Ashton, for some reason, blames Danny's victims for this, rather than blaming Danny.
@@filthforce Thanks for that information.
😎 👍
People are soo complicated and interestingly scary sometimes at the same time...
Did will smith do something similar I just seen him loose his cool and hit a man not assault women but might have missed something
No!!!! He wasn’t sentenced to 30 years, he was sentenced to life with the possibility of parole in 30 years
As if it matter, dummy. He'll be dead long before then anyway
Getting closer to the pursuit of Justice
The other people who wrote these letters need to be named and held responsible too.
Yep totally agree with you
You are insane.
Apprently 50 were written
@@yamum2303 Right?! It was so many people. ONLY pointing out these 2 is kinda silly. Is this about destroying 2 people or protecting people from 48 others who support rape?
Scientology is finally falling apart.
It's been falling apart for years and this is a MAJOR nail in their coffin, mainly because it's something mainstream media are happy to report about thus bringing awareness to a wider public. And keep in mind there are more lawsuits on the way against them.
Finally. I really think Leah Remini has done some amazing work to push Scientology cult education into mainstream media. She has been ruthless in her pursuit of exposing their skeletons. As a victim herself, she is doing her best to prevent the same for others.
"Scientology's blatant lies"!
Right on. Get 'em. Shine the light on the slime.😊
I actually praise Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis for standing by their friend. Most people would of tuck tail and ran the second they heard a peep about sexual assault accusations.
The fact people believe this is a real religion is hilarious. A sci-fi writer created it 😂😂😂
It’s as equally believable as every other religion
😆😆😆Have you seen the photo of that lunatic, Hubbard, auditing a tomato? You cannot make that 💩up!
Freedom of religion…has to be proven NOT to be a church.
Same goes for all religions. Theyre all made up bs
I know seriously! I think he was out of his mind too.
The fact that they said dannys a good role model in their letter makes me so sick to my stomach even after being found guilty for the serious crimes he has committed. Nobody in this earth in their right mind would ever say such a thing towards a person who SE women. It is disgusting for me to hear them say that and knowing that they are both parents to their younger kids. I worry bout how or what they teach their children. Friends or not it doesnt matter how long youve known your friend and how much of a good word u say bout them, but friends can turn out to be such evil monsters as well. I had to drop most of my friends cus theyre not as good as i thought they would be. And im happy now and not having alot of friends. Sometimes you gotta keep distant and get rid of them for your own good. I have zero respect for mila and ashton. Zero
It’s a character letter from a friend, what the hell did you expect it to say?
What’s worse is that they know the victims.
They should be pissed at DM not the victims, he cost those two 40 million dollars.
@@Stonehornmaybe don’t write one?
Same. I had always liked them. Thought they were smart and mature. Now with such behaviour, no. A big fat NO. They are either idiots blinded by loyalty which now overshadows their need for justice against said crimes OR they are evil people who are ignorant of other's feelings.
@@eternalwhitezombie I agree. Youth yes but long time friends. It's hard to change that overnight. But their letter was more for Danny's wife and daughter hoping for a little less time only so his daughter could see her father before she's 40. I believe they meant well. And who knows if Scientology persuaded them too? They are very manipulative. I have family in it.
So glad this channel has opened up the comments. Love this channel🤗
There is a clip from a interview with Danny Masterson from 2004 or 2005 with Conan O'Brien where Conan says to Danny one day you'll get caught . It's only about 45 second's long .
The rape victims cost that 70s show actors tens of millions in Netflix canceled contract. Ashton and Mila are PISSED!
I believe so too. If that's the case, their anger is misdirected. It was their "intentional human being" Danny they should be pissed at.
exactly, that was $40 million, then The Ranch cancelled too. The Jane Does KNOW that Ashton blames THEM for this, not Danny. His mind is warped.
@@StellaFl the Jane Does have a RUclipsr who does Scientology content regularly to a large audience that they all speak to, and they reported to him, that they KNOW that Ashton blames THEM for all that lost Netflix money, and not Danny. He also publicly exploded calling, I believe it was Jane Doe #3? a "crazy b!^@#" when she got Danny fired from The Ranch. The atmosphere at The Ranch, the idea that all the Jane Does were lying was enforced, which is why he felt so safe to so publicly insult her. but sympathetic characters who knew Danny was guilty, reported on these things
If you want a twisted darker side to this situation you'll be stunned by this.
When the 70s Show (which made them all celebrities) was still being filmed and the network ratings were high, another far more serious court case took place which involved Ashton Kutcher this time.
You will find the details easily enough with a quick search. This was when Ashton's popularity was busy rising and he knew the news of his then girlfriend being brutally murdered and he was placed at the crime scene could end his career.
That's where the lies began and the rest of the cast covering as his alibi, finding the body then leaving to go to a party.
How the serial killer Michael Gargiulo evaded arrest due to his Ashton's presence at the crime scene.
Sure you'll be amazed at how this huge story never saw the light of day.
This story did see the light of day. 9/11/2001 buried many other, less death producing, American events.
There's a theory going around that Danny Masterson's family were able to blackmail Ashton Kutcher because they had extra dirt on Ashton about finding the body that might get him in serious legal trouble. Essentially he had to make the letter or else his career would be over. At least that's the theory.
Michael Gargiulo - was literally on 48 Hours, Dateline, and every other true crime show in existence. Kutcher testified at his trial. And *_that_* was publicized. So I’m amazed. But more in *_your_* direction.
Aaron at Growing Up In Scientology made a video about Ashton calling serial r*pist DM freaking out & got advice on speakerphone. Jane Doe 'Jen' 'reminded' Ashton that she heard & remembers Everything, & her F U to Ashton. (for his zero apology to DM's 3 victims letter, who he had been friends with.)
Mila was 14..he was 20..on the show he was a perv and she was a child..yuck
Truth is, it takes us awhile to change our perception of people when we find out new information. Still surprising that they would write letters after a conviction.
They painted the rapist as a saint and then claim that does not undermine the victims. Ridiculous.
“Danny’s hard stance against drugs is inspirational.”
I can’t believe they wrote something so stupid & clueless about a man who was just convicted of drugging & assaulting his victims. They are truly bizarre.
Thank you 60 Minutes Australia!!!
Ashton and Mila should have said NO when asked to do it. Both now look gulity in condoning Masterson's actions. Just apalling.
Simplistic thinking
@@mckernan603: No it isn't. They could have still supported him but not wrote letters for him.
They knew he was guilty and still wrote the letter. Google why, there's the dead girlfriend story.
Just think what they might have on Ashton . So a “no” doesn’t really work. Just saying
@@briendoyle3823 supported him with prayers I suppose
Surprised that the actress who played Donna in The 70s Show, who is also a scientologist, didn't write a letter considering she knows him just as long and dated Danny's brother for 8 years. I'm not surprised by Ashton, as he defended Travis Klanick and Uber's sexism, misogyny and criminality in the past because that's where his money comes from.
Lura left scientology a while back
It feels like Mila is pissed off at us for being pissed off at her.
I love how Australia 60 Mins is ON IT 🎉 Ashton knows something is headed his way.
Lol the "one-time" sitcom actor line is savage 😂😂😂