Or just get better/newer/sharper Drill Bits! I used to do large speaker and lighting rigging install which had me drilling I-Beams (among other things). It's doable with a Good basic drill. But the bits Have to be sharp, and you need to use oil. 😎
All this talk about how good the cooling is on this desk, but what you've really built is the most efficient Dorito crumb catcher I've ever seen, fantastic work
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@@mikehawk4517 "We specialize in making low-quantity prototype cases but please don't contact us about your low-quantity prototype cases if all you have to pay for it is $110, please" Fixed that for you.
Of all the projects on LTT. Alex's are my favorite. The hacky-janky-"this is so dumb it just might work" type videos are, to me, what LTT is all about.
@@bigbundle3223 they will work him into as many videos as they can. slowly increasing his role until he hosts a video solo. It's how they do it for everyone and it's a really good strategy
Man LTT made a lot of stupid jank shit in the past, but Alex really hit gold this time. This thing looks absolutely amazing, seems well built and is also somewhat practical. Good job! Seriously.
A certain amount of jank is a requirement for LTT videos, otherwise you'd be going over to watch someone who actually tries to seem professional, like Gamer's Nexus.
Finally someone with a radiator setup larger than mine. I have been running only 2 radiators for years but they are 1080 radiators (360x360 or 9x120mm per side of each radiator). This is one of the projects I wish I could have been there in person so see/help with a build like this one.
Stick a filter across the bottom: solve the dust problem of pushing air through radiators (pull is much easier to clean); and the whole thing doubles as an air purifier!
Never thought I'd here this when a company provides something for a video: "Protocase agreed to do this for us on one condition. We tell you not to buy from them"
For anyone who sees this: The trick to drilling through metal is to press hard (not so hard that a thin bit might snap) and to not drill fast. You want it to spin about 5 rotations per second (pretty slow, but moving). A lot of people do not know this and spin the bit fast. This will dull your bit within one to two holes, or less if it's thick metal. By going slow you give the bit time to "bite" and peel the metal. Fast turning simply polishes your bit's leading edge, dulling it. It's counter-intuitive, but true. Once you practice this after a couple holes you will understand :) Be careful, anyone watching you drill, and who's not savvy, will question you.
@@goatkingboss8478 Yep, a center punch so it won't walk and a bit of cutting oil along with what the OP mentioned and it would be pretty easy. Also, I like using stepped bits in situations like that; were the hole doesn't have to have a perfect wall all the way through, or thick material.
I didn't knew that i really want such a desk. I never thought about that. I thought my desk is good and stable - it is - but nothing beats this. This is the most beautiful Setup i have ever seen in my entire life AND all in black AND made from Steel. I can't desribe with words how cool this is just from seeing it. The BEST Setup for a Studio IMO. Silent if needed. I really would use this on a daily basis and maybee my macbook's CPU won't hit 103°C again.
If you were to have the fans pull air down through the desk, you could 3D print some ducts / shrouds to direct the hot air towards the rear and side edges of the desk, so you wouldn't have hot air blowing onto your legs.
If you're already getting protocase to make the top and brackets, might as well have them bend up a metal duct while you're at it. Send-Cut-Send is also a nice company to work with for getting stuff laser or waterjet cut and bent, though I'm not sure if they will also powdercoat. I'm sure their website lists all their services, though.
@@brendanmassaro9595 But you need to make a cover for the fans anyway. You don't want to randomly hit your knee into the fans while spinning or have a pet / kid be near it. So the duct works as a cover and redirect the air away from the user.
so basically, if you use ultra thick radiators and make this setup entirely passive (considering you live in colder places with long winters) this desk can be used as a passive room heater (when the temperature equalizes between the pc and the amount of water in the setup) this is hilariously genius
It doesn't matter what kind of cooling system you use if the PC parts are the same, it'll heat up the room just as much. 200W CPU + 350W GPU will dump 550W of heat into your room no matter how you cool them.
@@canadajones9635 I don't think people have their computers set up in a way that they blow the heated air towards them. And if you're using the computer (that's when they usually generate the most heat) it's nicer to have the warm air blown away from you than to have the radiators under your arms.
@@Kepe I've been thinking about this a bit, wouldn't a large thermal mass (such as a bunch of radiators with water) would absorb some of the heat and make your room cooler than otherwise?
Okay, some minor tweaks to this, and I would actually want one. It may be hacky AF, but this is awesome. Make the fans pull air downward and install some form of shroud to redirect the air from your feet and we'd be golden.
I want to hook it up to a dryer exhaust pipe to vent the air outside for the summer, with a switch that lets you flip it to vent into your central HVAC system to use the heat during winter. It'd be glorious.
@@soratorb Man, some people really don't understand physics/thermodynamics. A PC will output a few hundred watt of heat at most - no matter how you cool it (so doesnt matter if you use a normal case/cooling setup, or a table like this). At absolute most you'll be able to increase the temperature of a small room by a few degrees (and for that you can just put a normal PC case with fan cooling into your room, so a completely stock setup), but using it to go to central HVAC to heat a house? Yeah... no, you'd bleed more heat along the way than the PC produces, and you'll not heat up anything.
There was a time, not too long ago, when I didn’t care much for the videos that Alex hosted but I think he’s really grown into the role. This was great!
As soon as I saw this I thought "It isn't a completely ridiculous idea" as it seems fairly practical. Two minutes in Alex says "It isn't as ridiculous as you might think!" and I was like yaaaay IT IS gonna be the greatest PC desk ever!
It's not that big actually. Since cold stuff is always on the bottom and hot stuff always on the top, this method is kinda not effective. Maybe they need to make like.. a frame that cool the PC from above. Make like.. a box-like table that the top part(above the monitor and CPU) is the cooler part. The bottom aka the table part is just normal table. Maybe need to make it from metal. To make it cool too.
1. It is ridiculous 2. Half of those radiators are probably useless in the sense that the water in the radiators are probably down to ambient temp already, ie doing nothing at that point. 3. RUclipsrs run out of ideas quickly when producing videos daily, so they will build whatever they can think of at this point.
@@tsartomato You can solve all of those problems fairly easily in the design stage, I am excited to see the development of future furniture items. That's what I am here for, interior design tips :D
Absolutely! Thankfully they do stuff like that just for the fun. Still not neccarsy, i have a similar setup with 2 rads 360+280, gpu peaking at 58 degrees 😅
I think this is one of the videos I enjoyed the most in a while from LTT! Excellent build quality, no shortcuts or jenky stuff and it looks actually useable as Linus said!! Great job Alex, and of course everyone else who helped/collaborated!! I enjoyed every second of this video, even the segue to our sponsor, FlexiSpot! Thanks FlexiSpot! :D
I feel like with a properly set up fan curve (fans turning on well below 80°C, but also not 100% fan speed at any temperature), this would be the perfect balance of cool and quiet.
Using a fan controller with a temperature probe in the water loop would be ideal for this setup; pick a water temp you're comfortable with and have it keep the loop there at whatever RPM it takes. Controlling fans like this from something like CPU temperature is an impossible exercise, because 90% of the temperature rise occurs between the CPU die and waterblock but you have all the thermal inertia in the water to deal with. A "traditional" loop will spin the fans up way too fast under any load, because the temperature shift from the water heating up is swamped by the innate temperature shift of the CPU load spikes.
The steel was hard to drill through because your drill bit RPM was too high for the diameter hole you were drilling. High carbon steel needs slower RPM's otherwise you'll work harden your material and burn out your drill bits. Low speed/High feed next time
Ugh! I used to build and race cars. One of the most common mistakes I see is running heat exchangers (water radiators, oil coolers, transmission coolers, etc...) in series -- just like you guys did. Heat exchangers work best when there is a large temperature drop. Running heat exchangers in series mean the first one is doing the most work, the second is doing about 25% of the work the first one is, and the rest are doing nearly zero cooling. Plus the flow restructions all add up, like resistors in series in an electrical circuit. Run your heat exchangers in PARALLEL. You'll get more efficient cooling (the fluid enters ALL the heat exchangers at the same temperature and the fluid spends MUCH longer in the heat exchanger.) You also get much lower flow restriction since, like resistors in parallel, the flow restriction is the inverse of thesum of all the heat exchanger's flow resistance.) Plus the hot air is spread more evenly across the entire desk. Now for this project, you're so over-cooled it doesn't matter, but for other water-cooled projects, it can make a big difference.
thanks a ton, saw this at the right time. just did my radiators on a meyers manx with a subaru engine. I have 3 radiator (2 from motorcycle, 1 from prius inverter cooler lol) about to start it for the first time
I used to work as a pipe fitter assembling and installing robotic welding fixtures. These videos remind me of the best days I had working there just screwing around in the shop. I'll admit, I'm jealous! You all look like you're having such a good time!
17:40 - Seeing that the 12900KS went all the way to 82 degrees with the mods and the RTX 3090 peaking at 53 degrees kinda shows how hot Intel CPUs get.
all those radiators dont mean crap when the block connected to the cpu is "junk" / the weakest link. I did a similar project a decade ago with car radiators. Did not look nearly as professional as this though. System only as good as its weakest point. 101
@@joemehnert7590 yea at that point it's not about the capacity of the radiators, but rather how much the direct connection to the chip is able to dissipate heat from such a small area. One of the benefits of larger dies and chip size is that heat dissipation is much easier to manage.
@@joemehnert7590 Linus said it was the modified cpu with the liquid metal and aftermarket part (the metal part that sits on top of the chip to transfer heat, I cant remember how it's called). So that cpu is actually way better then a stock one
This has got to be one of the sickest builds I have seen! I want to see a custom rad and desk from FlexiSpot for mass production, even if it's not the whole desk, this would still be a sick build to productize. And the risk of water damage to customer components is minimal since the loop is under the PC, gravity brings water down and away from a desktop PC.
You're right. Taking the time for reactions and praising the folks involved in making this reality was a good use of time. Cool stuff deserves acknowledgement.
A desk made of redditors is what we would have right now if the Nazis had won the war. Or maybe they just wouldn't be calling everybody a Hitler to conclude every single argument :D
Can we just admire the sound in the beginning, I was just minding my own business and I realized it's either 5.1 or 7.1 and sounds really good! Really impressed with how far Linus tech tips has come!
@@canderson7776 even If so it's still cool, I have a 7.1 setup in my bedroom and it sounded pretty cool even if it is just stereo. You gotta admire the little things.
@@codysylvester7751 You may have some piece of software on your computer or running on some other piece of hardware in your setup that is providing some form of virtual surround sound.
Idve had the fans blowing toward the floor as a foot warmer anyways my hands dont get cold but my feet do lol only thing to improve this would be slide in filter between the radiators and the desk top.
You guys are turning into the Top Gear of computing and I am here for it. Can't wait to see how this escalates. What's next... a wall made of radiators? Dumping the heat via modified air con unit?
Heh it's funny I remember Linus said exactly this idea of wanting to create "The Top Gear of tech" back when they first moved out of the house studio and into the warehouse studio. Linus you crazy son of a bitch, you did it!
You've seen this recent WAN show, right? The one where he talks that it is his aspiration to become the top gear of tech? Just seems like a funny coincidence to me ;P
I just got a $900 motorized standing desk, and this desk makes me jealous. I’m not a mechanical engineer, though, and I would not trade IRL because I don’t want to maintain custom liquid cooling. Also, my floor would struggle with all that weight.
This is absolutely amazing! I can actually see a lot of potential in something like this. especially if the process was made more efficient and the price dropped a bit, this could actually make it's spot in a niche market
This is a great build!! Getting ideas.. also since you guys give me so many amazing tips - I have to give one in return! When drilling steel - try very slow speed and use cutting fluid or oil to keep the bit cool! ❤
This is actually awesome. Would have loved to see some FLIR Footage of the desk, just to see how overkill all of those radiators actually are. (how cool are the radiators at the end of the loop?)
Assuming sufficient pump capacity to maintain adequate flow of coolant in the loop, then there should be very little delta in temperature between any two points in the loop no matter how many rads you bolt together.
Not that overkill because the desk becomes hot. The cat might like it a lot however long session gamers most def. will not. It's pretty much useless as a desk with all the air hole in it. Lay an A4 on the table and write a decent sentence on it
This is by far one of my favorite videos I've seen from you guys so far! Being a 3D modeling and designing dork I appreciate all of this so much! I want to do custom stuff like this sometime(:
I'm with Linus on the fan part though. Especially after seeing the floating mousepad. That being said... I want this thing! Such a shame I don't have a couple thousand bucks to spend on a desk/cooler
Just get a flexi desk and then an aluminium rad or condenser from a scrapyard. They have the nicest looking ones covered up, and if you offer the guy a beer he's gonna let you have a look, it'll end up costing as much as just one of those rads, and you'll have their entire cooling capacity. Not to mention it's actually of a smaller size and you could even have it vertically mounted at the back of the desk with the fans pointed at you during winter for warm comfy legs or away in summer. 😁
I feel like this PC would be great for the winter but awful for the summer, especially if you live in Texas in the case of the latter. But if you have cold hands, it’s more-or-less an absolute win.
I bought one of their desks about a year ago. It arrived with a defective motor. Zero trouble getting a replacement part from them, and it's been solid since.
This is really, really cool. If someone wanted to do all the brain work and put the schematics for a desk using an automotive radiator out there, this would be an amazing weekend project.
I've updated my desk with a flexispot when covid started these things are freaking heavy, exceptional build quality and not that expensive all things considered. Would recommend any day
The version with the non-PC radiators could be a good piece of kit for the lab, to see what performance you can get out of hardware when the temperature isn't slowing things down
Dude this acct!!! 😭😭😭 I love it way more than I should 🤣 I agree! They certainly botched the job with the car radiator build last time. Would be cool to see something like that again, but near over engineered with care like they did here!
Linus knows what's up, some cleaned up used car radiators for dirt cheap would be perfect. Massive units for next to nothing from a scrap yard. Great video bros !
My idea would be to find the quietest fans, put them in the last spot on each radiator so airflow is behind the monitor and not hitting anywhere. You can reverse the fans in winter and summer (summer blow upwards, winter downward to heat your feet)
Yeah I can see why protocase had you say to not buy from them. I imagine they've had more than a few people try to get something made for less than the cost of the raw metal used for it.
I was woundering why don't GPUs have the same sort of universal 3rd party cooler options as a CPU. It would be nice to have a self contained water coolers on a GPU. Now that people are starting to mount their GPUs at 90 degrees to normal. Now seems like as good of a time than ever to give it a shot.
Because in many of them the partners manufacture boards with altered designs, so you would need a heatsink that matches each design. I've seen a few of them pair up with EK to make custom loop heatsinks for a few gpus with well equipped VRMs and other parts, but each has a unique heatsink.
They kind of do, the hole spacing for the main mount around the die doesn’t change much hence why things like the nzxt g10 and g12 have been around allowing you to use standard asetek cpu clc design coolers on the GPU die. The main issue is with cooling everything else other then the die. Memory and vrm on the front and sometimes on the back mean there’s no one size fits most full cover blocks and a lot of people probably don’t want use thermal adhesive to manually glue heat sinks to chips.
I was first introduced to them when I was at my college job 15 years ago. I thought they were expensive as hell. Then, after outfitting a trailer, I realized how much time they saved and was so happy they existed. Even at minimum wage, they saved money. To get an idea of how many we went through, my boss knew the failure rates (those that wouldn't self-tap) across brands.
honestly a pre-made panel of those that you could hang off the back of any desk with a clamp or screw setup would be pretty cool (no pun intended) sell different sizes etc. probably a viable product if you have it draw heat away from user.
The only flaw I see with this is having all the holes in the surface of the desk. I imagine losing so many little things in those holes over time and they would be a huge pain to get out. Not to mention if your someone who likes to eat at your computer.
I strongly disagree with Alex's point of "faster fans cooler hands" As anyone who's ever been near a server will attest Fast moving heated air is still definitely warm
Well, the joke *was originally* Intel before the FX 8000 lines of AMD cpu's. Intel was originally very hot, and AMD was the cooler of the two. Back when AMD held the crown and Intel was trying to catch up. That was before the days of hyperthreading for Intel, though.
That desk of radiators with the topper does look really good! I've got a normal Flexispot hight adjustable desk. It was super easy to put together. They make nice stuff. :)
Here is my tip for you when you're using larger (over 6mm) drill bits on steel: use the 1st gear of the drill... it will drill a hole faster and the tip won't overheat, thus increasing its life by a lot...
Also pre-drilling a hole with a smaller bit first so you aren't destroying the chisel tip of the larger bit. Large bits aren't generally intended to be the only bit you use to drill the hole through steel, though you can get away with that kind of abuse on softer metals and wood.
@@mndlessdrwer Yeah, found that out the first time i used a bigger drill bit in my life, it didn't even bulge so I pre-drilled it smaller and suddenly it works. You'd think that these guys would know.
The most hilarious part of this is you don't even need case fans. If it's a hot summer day, and you're having a box fan going anyhow, just put that sucker under the desk and immediately get more cooling.
@@imjashingyou3461 i would use(if i could afford it) two large rolls-royce radiators as the sides of the desk, supporting an ordinary desktop between them.
1: Obviously Antoine's nickname HAS to be "Geordi" 2: A manufacturer like PWR here in Australia could theoretically supply you an extremely high quality and very efficient heat exchanger core the size of the tabletop, which you would then make and fit up your own folded aluminium sheet end tanks to. So instead of 8 individual radiators, it's one big unit, possibly multiple cores thick, too. From the sheer volume of coolant and the thermal mass of the tens of kilograms of aluminium combined with the heat emissant surface area, it probably wouldn't need fans at all.
Yeah with the surface area of like 3 MO-RA3s it would definitely be enough to run passively. But the issue of hot hands, or, when blowing down, hot legs, still remains
I LOVE this project. If i were Linus i would switch it out for my office desk lol. I also agree with Linus about switching the fans around in the summer.
"Central Cooling"! Just a thought: With fans blowing down [at least during Winter], it would be a leg warmer. Corollary idea: Wire the fans so air direction is easily switchable; for instance, blowing air up, from time to time, would certainly be desirable to clear the inevitable dust that'll collect in the radiator fins (the glass top wasn't a bad idea in that regard).
Have you guys considered adding spacers between the top of the desk and the radiators so you could slide a mesh filter on top of each rad just to stop particles from landing in the rad that might be on the desk? Say like chips or other particulate matter you wouldn't want in there clogging them up?
They still are 😆 9 case fans and a 360mm AIO and my 5950X idles at 60c with fans on full blast 😅 Had to get a Mac Mini M1 for day to day tasks because my legs were gettin warm under my standing desk 😆
@@Trami- yeah I'm not sure what's up. I had a lian li cooler at first and it was utter garbage - idled at 75°C and would hit cutoff and shut the computer down under the smallest load. Been building PCs for 18 years and never had issues like that. Got one of those fancy Kraken coolers and it was much better out of the box.
Car radiators can go for about the price of 1 or 2 of those pc radiators, the only issue as Linus found out before would be adaptors for the large hose outlet and inlet on the radiator to the size compatible for the pc. once you get around that it would be conceivable to do a similar setup for much cheaper. Would be interesting to see one done with the oil radiator on older vw bugs because if i remember correctly those have smaller inlets and outlets much closer to pc sized parts. (yes old vw's were oil cooled, not water cooled its quite interesting)
@Akaoni_Black only problem from a engineering perspective is the large amount of flow car radiators need to keep working. No pump available for PC's I'm aware of would work. But you might be able to get some form of large but thin industrial radiator that would suffice.
@@deadaccount6135 Another issue, PC radiators are designed to run in any orientation as you purge all of the air from the system, but car radiators are designed with a very specific orientation in mind, and both air and water in the radiator at any given time. You can modify them to run at funny angles, but it would require a bit extra effort.
@@deadaccount6135 I'm running a car radiator in my loop for over 13 years now without any problems. I built myself adaptors. No corrosion (aluminum/copper - only using destilled water and some car anti freeze), no flow issues, possible in every orientation... And for 36 bucks new I get more cooling capability than any PC radiator could deliver. Most of the time it runs passive and if temps go up i got 3 x 200mm fans that run so slow you can't hear them. I'm running the loop with an Aquastream XT at ~75 liters per hour.
It would likely vent air out the front and into the person using the desk, so it wouldn't do that very well; and that's not mentioning how hot the glass would get after running it for long enough. It might work if they put fans at the back to circulate air under the panel though.
you could have used 280mm radiators so the heat would be dissipated at the back of the desk with low rpm (or passively at idle) and have the area where your keyboard and mouse to be just fine with a holeless design/have a glass at the top, you could also put a little border that separates the "airflow area" from the "work space" so any accidental spill or thing lime that wouldn't be a complete nightmare to clean later. i would LOVE to see a rev 2 version of this that can be actually usable in a regular day
Yeah, I love everything about this but for how I use a desk... it would be almost zero for practicality. Tiny screws and components big enough to get lodged in radiator fins... just nope.
Am I the only one who noticed that their new mechanical engineer is named Laforge? LMG is so far ahead of the times that they get their staff from the 23rd century.
Convenient how Flexispot was able to predict the random use cases their desks would be put through. Down right amazing work by their documentation and design teams.
Since that type of holes on the desk are very similar to star wars "imperial grates" and the industrial look of the tubing, i would have totally done an empire themed build.
Don't think Red LED fans would be a bad addition/substitute. Could totally see someone making a cool themed set up like that. I hope someone in the community takes this concept and modifies it into something like that!
I definitely feel like reversing the fan direction and using something a little more quiet like Noctua redux's would've made it that little better, less efficient for heat transfer but better on the hands pulling heat away from the metal top rather than through it
For an over the top PC cooling solution you should get a small air conditioning heat pump (the outside part, not the inside part). Build a water heat exchanger that has inputs and outputs for both gas and water. The heat pump cools the gas which cools the water, which then cools the PC. Might need a buffer/reservoir in there somewhere too.
@@mamoopy You're right they did, I just watched it. They just hooked the gas straight to the CPU but I'd like to see the same thing but with water cooling and heat exchanger.
@@dunxy My brother tried this 20 years ago by mounting an air compressor and radiator into a PC and connecting the gas straight to the CPU. However it caused way too much condensation and the CPU just fried due to shorting.
You know what? I really want to see this. Take the standard case fans off the radiators, and strap a couple of box fans to the bottom of the table. Noise be damned. I really want to see what kind of numbers that would bring haha
Yes at this point we have to admit that when it comes to modify our desk into a radiator desk, our E7 desk with really “good” steel is a bug actually.
rare to see complaints about the quality of the product being too good. Good job FlexiSpot🤣
Love your stuff.
@@elainey8998 I've had monster cables fit so tight they tore out their female receptacle on tvs
@@nickkk420 electronic prolapse
Or just get better/newer/sharper Drill Bits! I used to do large speaker and lighting rigging install which had me drilling I-Beams (among other things). It's doable with a Good basic drill. But the bits Have to be sharp, and you need to use oil. 😎
All this talk about how good the cooling is on this desk, but what you've really built is the most efficient Dorito crumb catcher I've ever seen, fantastic work
Self cleaning desk. Just turn the industrial fans to max to blow the crumbs out.
@@Daedje Just don't stand with your face directly over the desk when doing that. Don't want Doritos shrapnel in your eyes!
@@Daedje imagine this desk with blowie-matrons in it...
You eat food at your desk and keyboard. You monster lol
@@rudysal1429 nope, that's called home office or simply having a job in IT. 💁♂️
This turned out way better than I expected from the teaser!
from that short, i thought it might be terrible idea because he did say it was really warm... :)
under promised over delivered...
Next idea, Chair made of radiators
@@boydsmith2732 gonna cook the balls
Next video "10 gamers one heat sink"
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I absolutely love that Protocase custom cut the build under the condition that they tell us not to try buying custom cases from them.
Oh hello Mr Fennix
@@thunderlucas8923 :O You recognize da fennix!
"We specialize in making low-quantity prototype cases but please don't contact us about your low-quantity prototype cases, please."
@@mikehawk4517 Don't contact them if you are broke because shit cost alot of money.
@@mikehawk4517 "We specialize in making low-quantity prototype cases but please don't contact us about your low-quantity prototype cases if all you have to pay for it is $110, please" Fixed that for you.
Of all the projects on LTT. Alex's are my favorite. The hacky-janky-"this is so dumb it just might work" type videos are, to me, what LTT is all about.
true af
Nice to know that Dan actually does work in the office and is not just the head of moving Linus stuff into his new house. Lol
i just love how he got out of probation and is suddenly in everything. like they couldnt wait to put him in videos
@@bigbundle3223 Yeah he has really been in every single LTT video lately. He is amazing though.
@@bigbundle3223 they will work him into as many videos as they can. slowly increasing his role until he hosts a video solo. It's how they do it for everyone and it's a really good strategy
@@alexdavis9324 watched LMG clips?
Loled
Man LTT made a lot of stupid jank shit in the past, but Alex really hit gold this time. This thing looks absolutely amazing, seems well built and is also somewhat practical. Good job! Seriously.
Agreed, this is about "DIY Perks" grade quality. Great job Alex & team!
A certain amount of jank is a requirement for LTT videos, otherwise you'd be going over to watch someone who actually tries to seem professional, like Gamer's Nexus.
Totally agree. Alex’s videos are some of my favourites as it’s janky meets engineering.
I do kinda miss the jank.
We are not even on June and Alex already made the best (in terms of quality, finish and overall performance) project of the year.
Finally someone with a radiator setup larger than mine. I have been running only 2 radiators for years but they are 1080 radiators (360x360 or 9x120mm per side of each radiator). This is one of the projects I wish I could have been there in person so see/help with a build like this one.
Alex saying: "It isn't a totally stupid idea" is what I feel like he says everytime he pitches an idea for a video.
xD Yeees but we all love it and want some of them ideas lol
😂💯
True lol
You missed the ", I promise this time" at the end
Golden rule of engineering: if it looks stupid but it works - it ain't stupid.
Stick a filter across the bottom: solve the dust problem of pushing air through radiators (pull is much easier to clean); and the whole thing doubles as an air purifier!
That and a safety grid on the bottom would make this absolutely perfect.
And it would protect against getting caught in the blades
this so much...
pin this youre a genius
I'd put one on top because of gamer gunk
Never thought I'd here this when a company provides something for a video:
"Protocase agreed to do this for us on one condition. We tell you not to buy from them"
Answering e-Mails takes time…
They only want to be contacted by the right customers, the ones with deep pockets
i'd hear
900$ I think
ANTOINE!!! Thanks so much for joining the team and helping forge this new chapter in LTT! Have fun CADing everyones crazy ideas!
For anyone who sees this: The trick to drilling through metal is to press hard (not so hard that a thin bit might snap) and to not drill fast. You want it to spin about 5 rotations per second (pretty slow, but moving). A lot of people do not know this and spin the bit fast. This will dull your bit within one to two holes, or less if it's thick metal. By going slow you give the bit time to "bite" and peel the metal. Fast turning simply polishes your bit's leading edge, dulling it.
It's counter-intuitive, but true. Once you practice this after a couple holes you will understand :) Be careful, anyone watching you drill, and who's not savvy, will question you.
and i would use a lubricant
This guy carpenters.
@@goatkingboss8478 Yep, a center punch so it won't walk and a bit of cutting oil along with what the OP mentioned and it would be pretty easy. Also, I like using stepped bits in situations like that; were the hole doesn't have to have a perfect wall all the way through, or thick material.
We call this drilling but we really ought to think about the task as "digging".
Don't forget to put oil on the spot you're going to drill if you're drilling metal!
The desk honestly looks awesome, like I would consider buying that.
given that you can actually use it as a radiator is a pretty good piece to have
I didn't knew that i really want such a desk. I never thought about that. I thought my desk is good and stable - it is - but nothing beats this.
This is the most beautiful Setup i have ever seen in my entire life AND all in black AND made from Steel. I can't desribe with words how cool this is just from seeing it. The BEST Setup for a Studio IMO. Silent if needed. I really would use this on a daily basis and maybee my macbook's CPU won't hit 103°C again.
If you were to have the fans pull air down through the desk, you could 3D print some ducts / shrouds to direct the hot air towards the rear and side edges of the desk, so you wouldn't have hot air blowing onto your legs.
Or duct air outside.
But then the desk would get really bulky
If you're already getting protocase to make the top and brackets, might as well have them bend up a metal duct while you're at it. Send-Cut-Send is also a nice company to work with for getting stuff laser or waterjet cut and bent, though I'm not sure if they will also powdercoat. I'm sure their website lists all their services, though.
@@brendanmassaro9595 But you need to make a cover for the fans anyway. You don't want to randomly hit your knee into the fans while spinning or have a pet / kid be near it. So the duct works as a cover and redirect the air away from the user.
@@pipooh1 why not?
“This radiator desk can cool anything, from the fastest computer to my sponsor.”
- Linus Sebastian, 2022
Oh man that's perfect
so basically, if you use ultra thick radiators and make this setup entirely passive (considering you live in colder places with long winters) this desk can be used as a passive room heater (when the temperature equalizes between the pc and the amount of water in the setup) this is hilariously genius
It doesn't matter what kind of cooling system you use if the PC parts are the same, it'll heat up the room just as much. 200W CPU + 350W GPU will dump 550W of heat into your room no matter how you cool them.
@@Kepe Yes, but passive heat flow can be considered more pleasant than active, fanned heat flow.
@@canadajones9635 I don't think people have their computers set up in a way that they blow the heated air towards them. And if you're using the computer (that's when they usually generate the most heat) it's nicer to have the warm air blown away from you than to have the radiators under your arms.
Desk top full of holes that may also heat up to uncomfortably high temperatures and costs a small fortune? Yeah, that's "hilariously genius".
@@Kepe I've been thinking about this a bit, wouldn't a large thermal mass (such as a bunch of radiators with water) would absorb some of the heat and make your room cooler than otherwise?
Okay, some minor tweaks to this, and I would actually want one. It may be hacky AF, but this is awesome. Make the fans pull air downward and install some form of shroud to redirect the air from your feet and we'd be golden.
I want to hook it up to a dryer exhaust pipe to vent the air outside for the summer, with a switch that lets you flip it to vent into your central HVAC system to use the heat during winter. It'd be glorious.
it would be way too thick, couldn't spread my legs under it
@@soratorb Man, some people really don't understand physics/thermodynamics. A PC will output a few hundred watt of heat at most - no matter how you cool it (so doesnt matter if you use a normal case/cooling setup, or a table like this). At absolute most you'll be able to increase the temperature of a small room by a few degrees (and for that you can just put a normal PC case with fan cooling into your room, so a completely stock setup), but using it to go to central HVAC to heat a house? Yeah... no, you'd bleed more heat along the way than the PC produces, and you'll not heat up anything.
There was a time, not too long ago, when I didn’t care much for the videos that Alex hosted but I think he’s really grown into the role. This was great!
As soon as I saw this I thought "It isn't a completely ridiculous idea" as it seems fairly practical. Two minutes in Alex says "It isn't as ridiculous as you might think!" and I was like yaaaay IT IS gonna be the greatest PC desk ever!
It's not that big actually.
Since cold stuff is always on the bottom and hot stuff always on the top, this method is kinda not effective.
Maybe they need to make like.. a frame that cool the PC from above.
Make like.. a box-like table that the top part(above the monitor and CPU) is the cooler part. The bottom aka the table part is just normal table. Maybe need to make it from metal. To make it cool too.
1. It is ridiculous 2. Half of those radiators are probably useless in the sense that the water in the radiators are probably down to ambient temp already, ie doing nothing at that point. 3. RUclipsrs run out of ideas quickly when producing videos daily, so they will build whatever they can think of at this point.
@@todorow22 can't really please em all i guess
must've been fun at parties
@@tsartomato You can solve all of those problems fairly easily in the design stage, I am excited to see the development of future furniture items.
That's what I am here for, interior design tips :D
This is one of the most unique ideas and executions they have had in a while. Love it!
Absolutely! Thankfully they do stuff like that just for the fun. Still not neccarsy, i have a similar setup with 2 rads 360+280, gpu peaking at 58 degrees 😅
I think this is one of the videos I enjoyed the most in a while from LTT! Excellent build quality, no shortcuts or jenky stuff and it looks actually useable as Linus said!! Great job Alex, and of course everyone else who helped/collaborated!! I enjoyed every second of this video, even the segue to our sponsor, FlexiSpot! Thanks FlexiSpot! :D
I feel like with a properly set up fan curve (fans turning on well below 80°C, but also not 100% fan speed at any temperature), this would be the perfect balance of cool and quiet.
Using a fan controller with a temperature probe in the water loop would be ideal for this setup; pick a water temp you're comfortable with and have it keep the loop there at whatever RPM it takes. Controlling fans like this from something like CPU temperature is an impossible exercise, because 90% of the temperature rise occurs between the CPU die and waterblock but you have all the thermal inertia in the water to deal with. A "traditional" loop will spin the fans up way too fast under any load, because the temperature shift from the water heating up is swamped by the innate temperature shift of the CPU load spikes.
The steel was hard to drill through because your drill bit RPM was too high for the diameter hole you were drilling. High carbon steel needs slower RPM's otherwise you'll work harden your material and burn out your drill bits. Low speed/High feed next time
I would've thrown an extension on there too
Good tip.
With harder steels, cobalt drill bits could also be a good idea. (They break easier, but will cut sooo much better)
I don't know if you're right but I want you to be right.
also cutting oil
Get a load of this nerd over here...(translation: that's a really good point, I didn't realize that speed is a factor when drilling through metal.)
Ugh!
I used to build and race cars. One of the most common mistakes I see is running heat exchangers (water radiators, oil coolers, transmission coolers, etc...) in series -- just like you guys did.
Heat exchangers work best when there is a large temperature drop. Running heat exchangers in series mean the first one is doing the most work, the second is doing about 25% of the work the first one is, and the rest are doing nearly zero cooling. Plus the flow restructions all add up, like resistors in series in an electrical circuit.
Run your heat exchangers in PARALLEL. You'll get more efficient cooling (the fluid enters ALL the heat exchangers at the same temperature and the fluid spends MUCH longer in the heat exchanger.) You also get much lower flow restriction since, like resistors in parallel, the flow restriction is the inverse of thesum of all the heat exchanger's flow resistance.) Plus the hot air is spread more evenly across the entire desk.
Now for this project, you're so over-cooled it doesn't matter, but for other water-cooled projects, it can make a big difference.
This is a good addition. Hope they will see your comment.
I want a follow up video where they include these suggestions.
I'm putting this tip in my head because I'm really curious aboutdoing an big external radiator now.
Hummm, so how would a flow look on an lian Li o11 for example, if done accordingly?
I wanna make it happen. 👀
thanks a ton, saw this at the right time. just did my radiators on a meyers manx with a subaru engine. I have 3 radiator (2 from motorcycle, 1 from prius inverter cooler lol) about to start it for the first time
I used to work as a pipe fitter assembling and installing robotic welding fixtures. These videos remind me of the best days I had working there just screwing around in the shop. I'll admit, I'm jealous! You all look like you're having such a good time!
17:40 - Seeing that the 12900KS went all the way to 82 degrees with the mods and the RTX 3090 peaking at 53 degrees kinda shows how hot Intel CPUs get.
all those radiators dont mean crap when the block connected to the cpu is "junk" / the weakest link. I did a similar project a decade ago with car radiators. Did not look nearly as professional as this though. System only as good as its weakest point. 101
@@joemehnert7590 yea at that point it's not about the capacity of the radiators, but rather how much the direct connection to the chip is able to dissipate heat from such a small area. One of the benefits of larger dies and chip size is that heat dissipation is much easier to manage.
And keep in mind they also have a copper IHS/liquid metal
@@joemehnert7590 Linus said it was the modified cpu with the liquid metal and aftermarket part (the metal part that sits on top of the chip to transfer heat, I cant remember how it's called).
So that cpu is actually way better then a stock one
@@Jet-ij9zc IHS (integrated heat spreader)
This has got to be one of the sickest builds I have seen! I want to see a custom rad and desk from FlexiSpot for mass production, even if it's not the whole desk, this would still be a sick build to productize. And the risk of water damage to customer components is minimal since the loop is under the PC, gravity brings water down and away from a desktop PC.
The reactions at the end were amazing. I always though this was missing from other crazy build videos. Good job Alex and team
You're right. Taking the time for reactions and praising the folks involved in making this reality was a good use of time. Cool stuff deserves acknowledgement.
I really appreciate how they take the time to not only include, but edit in the titles of prior videos clips are taken from
i just woke upi and i read the title as "The Desk Made of Redditors can cool ANYTHING"
A desk made of redditors is what we would have right now if the Nazis had won the war. Or maybe they just wouldn't be calling everybody a Hitler to conclude every single argument :D
Woah you won a prize lmao legit frfr
Ayo! dapz you a part of the PC community?
Can we just admire the sound in the beginning, I was just minding my own business and I realized it's either 5.1 or 7.1 and sounds really good! Really impressed with how far Linus tech tips has come!
Hate to break it to you but all sound on RUclips is 2 channel.
@@canderson7776 even If so it's still cool, I have a 7.1 setup in my bedroom and it sounded pretty cool even if it is just stereo. You gotta admire the little things.
@@housemana woahhhhh😐
@@codysylvester7751 You may have some piece of software on your computer or running on some other piece of hardware in your setup that is providing some form of virtual surround sound.
@@cor144 I have dolby digital and dolby atmos on, I never really thought of that though.
Solidworks: "The part is overdefined." **Removes dimension*" "The part is underdefined"
Schrödingers smart dimension.
Idve had the fans blowing toward the floor as a foot warmer anyways my hands dont get cold but my feet do lol only thing to improve this would be slide in filter between the radiators and the desk top.
You guys are turning into the Top Gear of computing and I am here for it. Can't wait to see how this escalates. What's next... a wall made of radiators? Dumping the heat via modified air con unit?
Let me show you how I heat my pool in summer. lol
Heh it's funny I remember Linus said exactly this idea of wanting to create "The Top Gear of tech" back when they first moved out of the house studio and into the warehouse studio. Linus you crazy son of a bitch, you did it!
They already used a room heating radiator with a threadripper and 2080ti’s and got a janitor closet to like 80 degrees
You've seen this recent WAN show, right? The one where he talks that it is his aspiration to become the top gear of tech? Just seems like a funny coincidence to me ;P
@@octia2817 he's been saying it since about 2015 then
I just got a $900 motorized standing desk, and this desk makes me jealous. I’m not a mechanical engineer, though, and I would not trade IRL because I don’t want to maintain custom liquid cooling. Also, my floor would struggle with all that weight.
Your floor would struggle with the weight?
What is your floor made of? Cardboard?
My house was built in the year 1900, out of wood, and we suspect there are termites in the crawl space underneath. I’m not pushin’ it, okay?
😂
@@dm2060 absolutely. have been using standing desk for a year or so, such a life savor.
@@djsnowpdx That's fair 😄
This is absolutely amazing! I can actually see a lot of potential in something like this. especially if the process was made more efficient and the price dropped a bit, this could actually make it's spot in a niche market
This is a great build!! Getting ideas.. also since you guys give me so many amazing tips - I have to give one in return! When drilling steel - try very slow speed and use cutting fluid or oil to keep the bit cool! ❤
This is actually awesome. Would have loved to see some FLIR Footage of the desk, just to see how overkill all of those radiators actually are. (how cool are the radiators at the end of the loop?)
Assuming sufficient pump capacity to maintain adequate flow of coolant in the loop, then there should be very little delta in temperature between any two points in the loop no matter how many rads you bolt together.
Not that overkill because the desk becomes hot. The cat might like it a lot however long session gamers most def. will not. It's pretty much useless as a desk with all the air hole in it. Lay an A4 on the table and write a decent sentence on it
@@UndercoverPirate69 than its a gaiming only desk
@@UndercoverPirate69 You mean writing on... paper? These things out of dead trees? Woah, that's so nostalgic! :D
This.. is genius and the desk looks legitimately very nice.
This is by far one of my favorite videos I've seen from you guys so far! Being a 3D modeling and designing dork I appreciate all of this so much! I want to do custom stuff like this sometime(:
This is an actually nice project because its not rushed but well thought out an planed
The quality of this build is definitely a step up from previous projects.
LTT: "Even an intel processor is not gonna run hot"
Meanwhile AMD: "Oh! How the turn tables!"
How the tables have turned*
@@brettcombs774 How the turntables! ..turned...
@@brettcombs774 you didnt get the joke buddy haha....
Yeah I'm missing something apparently
@@brettcombs774 Not a fan of "The Office" apparently.
I don‘t know how you do it, but every new employee that you introduce is really sympathetic!
Imagine spilling your morning hot coffee on this desk :)
It shouldn't do anything bc it's water tight
I'm with Linus on the fan part though. Especially after seeing the floating mousepad.
That being said... I want this thing! Such a shame I don't have a couple thousand bucks to spend on a desk/cooler
get AC condensers from cars they are thin and efficient and cheap
I would put the fans at the back of the desk so they're under the monitor abit if its possible, and also put fan grills on the fans lol
@@ggesdsdsdsd Fan grills for sure!
Just get a flexi desk and then an aluminium rad or condenser from a scrapyard. They have the nicest looking ones covered up, and if you offer the guy a beer he's gonna let you have a look, it'll end up costing as much as just one of those rads, and you'll have their entire cooling capacity. Not to mention it's actually of a smaller size and you could even have it vertically mounted at the back of the desk with the fans pointed at you during winter for warm comfy legs or away in summer. 😁
same
Good job, bro. You can tell he spent a lot of time to get this together. I hope there will be 2.0 version later with improvements
I feel like this PC would be great for the winter but awful for the summer, especially if you live in Texas in the case of the latter. But if you have cold hands, it’s more-or-less an absolute win.
We can't run that during the summer in Texas, it'll crash the power grid.
It's ok, they live in Canada, the heating part will be nice during most of the year
@@LoupDuQuebec bruh its so hot in the summer here in Canada, and it's now summer T_T
@@Jaxv3r I imagine the Quebec in their name indicates they also live in Canada (although they may not consider themselves Canadian;) )
There won't be power to run it in the summer in Texas anyways, so it's perfect.
I bought one of their desks about a year ago. It arrived with a defective motor. Zero trouble getting a replacement part from them, and it's been solid since.
This is really, really cool. If someone wanted to do all the brain work and put the schematics for a desk using an automotive radiator out there, this would be an amazing weekend project.
Now I want de anza college to do one.
I've actually been wanting to do something like that with a car radiator but incorporating peltier units in for additional cooling power
@@debbiebernhardt5406 what’s this in reference to?
automotive radiators are made of aluminium though. nt a good idea to put this in your copper loop.
@@neojack333 yeah, but it may be good idea to use coolant
I've updated my desk with a flexispot when covid started these things are freaking heavy, exceptional build quality and not that expensive all things considered. Would recommend any day
I think a DIY version of this would be really cool, standard perforated sheet metal are easily available.
Sure, i was thinking the same
Linus went from loving it, hating it, and then loving it again so quick
The version with the non-PC radiators could be a good piece of kit for the lab, to see what performance you can get out of hardware when the temperature isn't slowing things down
LMAO your username...
Dude this acct!!! 😭😭😭 I love it way more than I should 🤣
I agree! They certainly botched the job with the car radiator build last time. Would be cool to see something like that again, but near over engineered with care like they did here!
@@debenos or use some MORA rads which are bigger than some car radiators :D
ah yes, desk heater
Yes
Ah yes, desk car
literally put a 3090 while in the winter
Desk Cooler 💠❄️
Linus knows what's up, some cleaned up used car radiators for dirt cheap would be perfect. Massive units for next to nothing from a scrap yard.
Great video bros !
I love this, I'd actually buy that desk if it were to be sold as a product or DIY kit.
My idea would be to find the quietest fans, put them in the last spot on each radiator so airflow is behind the monitor and not hitting anywhere. You can reverse the fans in winter and summer (summer blow upwards, winter downward to heat your feet)
There's a fan made by Silverstone which can reverse it's airflow with a simple button press.
@@CarbonPanther I don’t think efficiency would be great...
Linus: "People will sometimes spend 5, 600, even 1000 dollars on a tabletop"
Wood prices rn: 🤨
👍
Yeah I can see why protocase had you say to not buy from them. I imagine they've had more than a few people try to get something made for less than the cost of the raw metal used for it.
That is quite a bit of tool time making the cuts, think a die setup if you were going to mass produce it on any scale,
Two years later and this video is still fun af.
Everyone needs an Alex in their life.
I was woundering why don't GPUs have the same sort of universal 3rd party cooler options as a CPU. It would be nice to have a self contained water coolers on a GPU.
Now that people are starting to mount their GPUs at 90 degrees to normal. Now seems like as good of a time than ever to give it a shot.
Iron plz take my children
Because in many of them the partners manufacture boards with altered designs, so you would need a heatsink that matches each design. I've seen a few of them pair up with EK to make custom loop heatsinks for a few gpus with well equipped VRMs and other parts, but each has a unique heatsink.
Because GPU's come in various different sizes whereas CPU's only come in a few.
@@omfgblondie most of them also cool the vrm and memory and that's just all over the place
They kind of do, the hole spacing for the main mount around the die doesn’t change much hence why things like the nzxt g10 and g12 have been around allowing you to use standard asetek cpu clc design coolers on the GPU die. The main issue is with cooling everything else other then the die. Memory and vrm on the front and sometimes on the back mean there’s no one size fits most full cover blocks and a lot of people probably don’t want use thermal adhesive to manually glue heat sinks to chips.
Love seeing the NCase M1 used in this project, especially since they've been discontinued. I still use one and love it.
metal self tapping screws are basically magic, they are amazing
so much money and time saved
I was first introduced to them when I was at my college job 15 years ago. I thought they were expensive as hell. Then, after outfitting a trailer, I realized how much time they saved and was so happy they existed. Even at minimum wage, they saved money.
To get an idea of how many we went through, my boss knew the failure rates (those that wouldn't self-tap) across brands.
They are amazing, until some bone head uses an impact driver to install them, and snaps half the heads off.
honestly a pre-made panel of those that you could hang off the back of any desk with a clamp or screw setup would be pretty cool (no pun intended) sell different sizes etc. probably a viable product if you have it draw heat away from user.
The only flaw I see with this is having all the holes in the surface of the desk. I imagine losing so many little things in those holes over time and they would be a huge pain to get out. Not to mention if your someone who likes to eat at your computer.
Eh, vacuum it.
I think the solution to this would be to sandwich a filter layer/screen between the table top and rads
@@benjoji Also a grille below so you won't risk getting your fingers (or other body parts) chopped off by a 3000 rpm fan.
Yup I'm that one who eats at my desk
@@urgay1992 don't think a plastic dull fan would do much damage.
I strongly disagree with Alex's point of "faster fans cooler hands"
As anyone who's ever been near a server will attest
Fast moving heated air is still definitely warm
The goal is to move that much air so the exhaust temperature drops.
perspiration loves airflow
I love the fact that we have changed the recurring old joke of cooling an AMD processor to Intel. Now both of them are wonderful ovens.
Well, the joke *was originally* Intel before the FX 8000 lines of AMD cpu's.
Intel was originally very hot, and AMD was the cooler of the two. Back when AMD held the crown and Intel was trying to catch up. That was before the days of hyperthreading for Intel, though.
@@IIIXAxthenXIII p4 HT ran got and the Pentium EEEE 990FX ran incredibly hot especially with 32gb of FBDIMM RAM
Look, im a total newb but the guy in the beginning is definingly my favorite! give this guy full videos!!!!
That desk of radiators with the topper does look really good! I've got a normal Flexispot hight adjustable desk. It was super easy to put together. They make nice stuff. :)
I swear I had the same idea last day, it's really cool see an actual product of that kind.
Here is my tip for you when you're using larger (over 6mm) drill bits on steel: use the 1st gear of the drill... it will drill a hole faster and the tip won't overheat, thus increasing its life by a lot...
Also using more pressure. Looks like he's just barely holding the drill on there.
That's how your supposed to drill metals ,slow speed high pressure.
Also pre-drilling a hole with a smaller bit first so you aren't destroying the chisel tip of the larger bit. Large bits aren't generally intended to be the only bit you use to drill the hole through steel, though you can get away with that kind of abuse on softer metals and wood.
@@mndlessdrwer This ^
@@mndlessdrwer Yeah, found that out the first time i used a bigger drill bit in my life, it didn't even bulge so I pre-drilled it smaller and suddenly it works. You'd think that these guys would know.
Oh my gosh a kotatsu PC. As someone who is always cold at their desk (even during the summer) this sounds amazing.
The most hilarious part of this is you don't even need case fans. If it's a hot summer day, and you're having a box fan going anyhow, just put that sucker under the desk and immediately get more cooling.
Linus a literal millionaire talks about salvaging radiators - shows his true jank gamer heart no matter the heights reached ❤️
I dont think automotive rads would work well. They can be shaped kinda weird.
@@imjashingyou3461 i would use(if i could afford it) two large rolls-royce radiators as the sides of the desk, supporting an ordinary desktop between them.
LMG has so many great people, and Alex with his crazy projects is definitely one of my favorites. Can't wait for more like this!
I know this isnt what I was supposed to take away from the video but I like that Alex is using the front pockets on the work shirt to hold tools
1: Obviously Antoine's nickname HAS to be "Geordi"
2: A manufacturer like PWR here in Australia could theoretically supply you an extremely high quality and very efficient heat exchanger core the size of the tabletop, which you would then make and fit up your own folded aluminium sheet end tanks to. So instead of 8 individual radiators, it's one big unit, possibly multiple cores thick, too. From the sheer volume of coolant and the thermal mass of the tens of kilograms of aluminium combined with the heat emissant surface area, it probably wouldn't need fans at all.
Yeah with the surface area of like 3 MO-RA3s it would definitely be enough to run passively. But the issue of hot hands, or, when blowing down, hot legs, still remains
I LOVE this project. If i were Linus i would switch it out for my office desk lol. I also agree with Linus about switching the fans around in the summer.
He has a really sick PC desk currently it is version 2 Colin made it. I think it is 3 episodes of the process.
"Central Cooling"! Just a thought: With fans blowing down [at least during Winter], it would be a leg warmer. Corollary idea: Wire the fans so air direction is easily switchable; for instance, blowing air up, from time to time, would certainly be desirable to clear the inevitable dust that'll collect in the radiator fins (the glass top wasn't a bad idea in that regard).
Alex absolutely killed the non-scripted portion of this video
Have you guys considered adding spacers between the top of the desk and the radiators so you could slide a mesh filter on top of each rad just to stop particles from landing in the rad that might be on the desk? Say like chips or other particulate matter you wouldn't want in there clogging them up?
I would expand the cooling table and make it an actual air hockey table.
Man, there was a time when AMD processors used to be room heaters. Now Intel took it's place. How the world changes!
They still are 😆 9 case fans and a 360mm AIO and my 5950X idles at 60c with fans on full blast 😅 Had to get a Mac Mini M1 for day to day tasks because my legs were gettin warm under my standing desk 😆
@@NaviUpgrade Welcome to the Mac Mini club. Lol. Just got out of the PC master race after 2 AMD and 2 Intel builds.
@@NaviUpgrade Jesus and I thought mine was hot at idle, my 5950x idles at 45°c with my aio
@@Trami- yeah I'm not sure what's up. I had a lian li cooler at first and it was utter garbage - idled at 75°C and would hit cutoff and shut the computer down under the smallest load. Been building PCs for 18 years and never had issues like that. Got one of those fancy Kraken coolers and it was much better out of the box.
Getting hot air blowing up to your working place must be so nice
Car radiators can go for about the price of 1 or 2 of those pc radiators, the only issue as Linus found out before would be adaptors for the large hose outlet and inlet on the radiator to the size compatible for the pc. once you get around that it would be conceivable to do a similar setup for much cheaper. Would be interesting to see one done with the oil radiator on older vw bugs because if i remember correctly those have smaller inlets and outlets much closer to pc sized parts. (yes old vw's were oil cooled, not water cooled its quite interesting)
@Akaoni_Black only problem from a engineering perspective is the large amount of flow car radiators need to keep working. No pump available for PC's I'm aware of would work. But you might be able to get some form of large but thin industrial radiator that would suffice.
@@deadaccount6135 Another issue, PC radiators are designed to run in any orientation as you purge all of the air from the system, but car radiators are designed with a very specific orientation in mind, and both air and water in the radiator at any given time. You can modify them to run at funny angles, but it would require a bit extra effort.
ac condenser would be the way to go in this scenario.
@@deadaccount6135 I'm running a car radiator in my loop for over 13 years now without any problems. I built myself adaptors. No corrosion (aluminum/copper - only using destilled water and some car anti freeze), no flow issues, possible in every orientation...
And for 36 bucks new I get more cooling capability than any PC radiator could deliver.
Most of the time it runs passive and if temps go up i got 3 x 200mm fans that run so slow you can't hear them.
I'm running the loop with an Aquastream XT at ~75 liters per hour.
@@BennyJJO you could make a video of it and get a few thousand views
Ok, I was jealous for Linus’ sweet job, nerdy skills, tolerant wife, and techno house. Now, I have to add coolest computer desk ever, lol.
I really like Dan. He's been a great addition to the team.
This is the actually most premium and awesome desk possible.
I feel like the glass panel would've been a good edition to shield the user a bit more from the warmth
It's so much surface area, it won't get hot.
@@soulfinderz it shouldn't get hot
Or just do a small area where your keyboard/ hands/ snacks would be
The glass would get hot.
It would likely vent air out the front and into the person using the desk, so it wouldn't do that very well; and that's not mentioning how hot the glass would get after running it for long enough. It might work if they put fans at the back to circulate air under the panel though.
you could have used 280mm radiators so the heat would be dissipated at the back of the desk with low rpm (or passively at idle) and have the area where your keyboard and mouse to be just fine with a holeless design/have a glass at the top, you could also put a little border that separates the "airflow area" from the "work space" so any accidental spill or thing lime that wouldn't be a complete nightmare to clean later.
i would LOVE to see a rev 2 version of this that can be actually usable in a regular day
Yeah, I love everything about this but for how I use a desk... it would be almost zero for practicality. Tiny screws and components big enough to get lodged in radiator fins... just nope.
Am I the only one who noticed that their new mechanical engineer is named Laforge? LMG is so far ahead of the times that they get their staff from the 23rd century.
It's actually rather simple. Simply queue the job posting to go live in the 23rd century, and have the applicant come back in time to the present.
Convenient how Flexispot was able to predict the random use cases their desks would be put through. Down right amazing work by their documentation and design teams.
Man, this is a great way to cool your PC!
Since that type of holes on the desk are very similar to star wars "imperial grates" and the industrial look of the tubing, i would have totally done an empire themed build.
Gaudy.
Don't think Red LED fans would be a bad addition/substitute. Could totally see someone making a cool themed set up like that. I hope someone in the community takes this concept and modifies it into something like that!
I definitely feel like reversing the fan direction and using something a little more quiet like Noctua redux's would've made it that little better, less efficient for heat transfer but better on the hands pulling heat away from the metal top rather than through it
have the front of the desk pull the wind downward, and the back of the desk upward : cool hands, but still raise heat in the end
For an over the top PC cooling solution you should get a small air conditioning heat pump (the outside part, not the inside part). Build a water heat exchanger that has inputs and outputs for both gas and water. The heat pump cools the gas which cools the water, which then cools the PC. Might need a buffer/reservoir in there somewhere too.
I think they did an a/c cooling loop
They already did this...Condensation s the issue with sub ambient cooling, really only good for chasing records, not daily driver.
@@dunxy dehumidify the room the loops in?
@@mamoopy You're right they did, I just watched it. They just hooked the gas straight to the CPU but I'd like to see the same thing but with water cooling and heat exchanger.
@@dunxy My brother tried this 20 years ago by mounting an air compressor and radiator into a PC and connecting the gas straight to the CPU. However it caused way too much condensation and the CPU just fried due to shorting.
You know what? I really want to see this. Take the standard case fans off the radiators, and strap a couple of box fans to the bottom of the table. Noise be damned. I really want to see what kind of numbers that would bring haha
Place a portable AC under the desk with either type of fan. Then run Prime95 for an hour, just to see the temps.
Nah, nah. Go bigger. Mid-90's Ford Taurus electric fan with it's own independent power supply.
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With the deeply scooped blades, with no view possible through it, as any Rad fan has to be made, could work if you had it
@@bryanminugh9680 what?