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  • Опубликовано: 5 янв 2025

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  • @robertross8565
    @robertross8565 7 месяцев назад +1

    I agree with that statement. The Pereira Shave Bowl and a brand new 26 mm G5C brush has allowed me to use so little soap. Distilled water is an important factor as well.

  • @beg033
    @beg033 Год назад +2

    Awesome video, thank you sir! Just bought a measuring spoon set to get my soap usage just right, all thanks to this video. No more annoying leftover soap in my bowl! Really appreciate this, it's been super helpful. Big thanks!

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +2

      Let me know how it works out for you. Thanks for watching!

    • @beg033
      @beg033 Год назад +1

      Had a bit of a funny fail on my shave today. I used 1/4 tsp of Droid Black PAA CK6 soap (yep, the same one from the video) and my trusty, well-used Semogue 830 boar brush. I smashed the soap into my Pereira Shavery Unbreakable lather bowl and added a total amount of 13 ml water using a syringe. The result? Practically no lather at all! I tried applying it with my brush, but it nearly vanished on my face, leaving just a thin layer. Ended up using it as a pre-shave and reloaded my brush directly from the tub. This second round of face lathering created an amazing lather! Lesson learned: the scientific approach is best left for my synthetic brushes. For my natural hair brushes, I'll stick to tub loading. It's just easier and gives me a much better lather, plus I really prefer face lathering anyway :)

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +1

      @@beg033 well shoot, I wonder if you have hard water. I use this method with boar and badger. Sorry to hear it didn’t work for you.

    • @beg033
      @beg033 Год назад +1

      @@lawrence1md I used reverse osmosis water, so hard water wasn't the issue. Gave the 1/4 tsp soap another go today with a synthetic brush and it was a total win! Got awesome lather from the same soap (and amount.) I think I went lighter on the water this time, and the lather's texture and sheen were just perfect. Synthetic brushes are my new go-to for bowl lathering - I love being able to control everything, and no soap gets wasted. Enough lather for 4-5 passes without going overboard. Thanks again for the tip!

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +2

      @@beg033 excellent! I’m glad you tried it another time and it worked out. Thanks for watching!

  • @10floz30minutes
    @10floz30minutes Год назад +1

    I use a bowl to start the lather. I then either use the paste in the bowl for a face lather, or continue adding and mixing water to the material in the bowl for a bowl lather. Only OCCASIONALLY do I have not enough lather.

  • @jamesd.4223
    @jamesd.4223 Год назад +3

    Great video comparison. I am traditionally a bowl latherer as well and only face lather with shave sticks. But even so, I have been know to shave off a piece of a shave stick into a bowl to lather, LOL! Have a great day and hope you are doing well Matthew! 👊😁

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +2

      Sometimes I’ll use a shave stick and face lather and other times I’ll cut a little piece off and bowl lather it. Thanks for watching James!

  • @jtnachtlauf1961
    @jtnachtlauf1961 Год назад +1

    Great video, thank you for your rational approach.
    I scoop softer soaps. For the really hard ones (pucks, sticks) I simply got a little grater. The original soap packages stay clean and dry.
    Have great shaves, Merry Christmas and Happy new Year.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +2

      Thanks for watching and have a merry Christmas!

  • @10floz30minutes
    @10floz30minutes Год назад +1

    Great Discussion about the quantities of soap and water!

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +1

      I think the 30 second load is too much. Not sure where that number became the rule of thumb. Thanks for watching!

    • @10floz30minutes
      @10floz30minutes Год назад +1

      @@lawrence1md You are learning according to your own experiences. This will guide your own practices.

  • @sheldon3996
    @sheldon3996 Год назад +1

    I’ve been away for awhile, thus the lack of comments. I bowl lather almost exclusively using a level 1/4 teaspoon with a badger knot. More than enough lather for a 4-pass shave. I cut back to 1/8 teaspoon if using a synthetic knot. Great video as always. Gonna have to binge watch and catch up!!

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +1

      I hope all is well with you Sheldon. Thank you for your support of my channel!

  • @clintonmumbower4461
    @clintonmumbower4461 Год назад +1

    Absolutely fantastic. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +1

      It was a fun video to make. Thanks for motivating me to do it. Thanks for watching!

  • @10floz30minutes
    @10floz30minutes Год назад +1

    Just as you describe, spray with whatever sprayer (or squirter) bottle you have, some counted number of times, and measure the volume of those counted squirts or sprays. Compute the average, and then you know. I made a demonstration of this about two years ago.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +1

      I saw your video on the bottle with water a year or so ago. Thanks for watching!

  • @borbelyhaz321
    @borbelyhaz321 Год назад +1

    Hey. Great, great, great video 👍 I have been been bowl lathering scooping exclusively for the past 2 years.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +1

      Right on. For me it’s the best option. Thanks for watching borbely!

  • @unclelshaves
    @unclelshaves Год назад +2

    Great demonstration and explanation on jar vs bowl lather. Personally I'm now an exclusive bowl bowl latherer, for all the reasons you pointed out in the video. Happy Easter 🐰🐣🐰

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +2

      Did I mention consistency? I feel like bowl lathering is easier with being able to create that fantastic lather over and over again. Thanks for watching Lawrey!

    • @unclelshaves
      @unclelshaves Год назад +1

      @@lawrence1md Definitely have far more control of lather production with bowl lathering, without the extra mess. I also control my water with a syringe, I do vary the soap portion size depending on soap efficiency & brush, but that comes from more experience with my soaps and brushes.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +2

      @@unclelshaves exactly, hard soaps need less quantity and more water.

  • @robertross8565
    @robertross8565 7 месяцев назад +1

    I scoop a level 1/32 tsp (aka a “Smidgen”) of soap and smear into the bottom of my Pereira Shave Bowl.
    I then add 1 1/4 tsp of distilled water. I agitate 75 seconds with a slightly damp synthetic brush and I’ve got a fantastic lather. This makes enough for a 3-pass shave.
    The problem with my method is that my soaps will last forever. I have tried a variety of soaps and it works equally well.
    I scoop because it’s more hygienic, it results in a more consistent lather, and it uses less soap.

    • @robertross8565
      @robertross8565 7 месяцев назад +1

      Because I use so little soap, I remove the soap from the measuring spoon with a small pen knife.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  7 месяцев назад +1

      1/32 is impressive. Thanks for watching Robert!

  • @andrewwilson9617
    @andrewwilson9617 8 месяцев назад +1

    I tub load with a Badger or a stiff synthetic brush but I scoop for soft synthetic brushes. I found that Badger brushes hog the lather when bowl lathering so I find that they are better for face lathering.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  8 месяцев назад +2

      I have heard similar experiences with badger knots. Thanks for watching Andrew!

    • @andrewwilson9617
      @andrewwilson9617 8 месяцев назад +1

      I also find that with PAA CK6 formula a 10 to 15 load whether it be Badger or synthetic is plenty for a 3 pass shave. If I load any longer the lather gets really pasty and I have to add loads of water. I think some shavers load way too much.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  8 месяцев назад +2

      @@andrewwilson9617 you are right, 30 seconds is way too long. 10-15 is probably a ideal time. Thanks for watching Andrew!

  • @thomaspowers6761
    @thomaspowers6761 Год назад +1

    cool video, I only bowl lather if only so I don't have to let the puck dry on the sink top till the next day. Saw a video yesterday where the shaver only face lathered for reasons that didn't make sense to me. To each their own.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +1

      It’s really what ever works for you, I’ve seen a few feathers ruffled over this video and that wasn’t my intent. I thought it would be a fun video. Thanks for watching Thomas!

  • @JVCKPOT
    @JVCKPOT Год назад +1

    I load my brush for a few swirls , then build a lather in a bowl

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +1

      That would work too. Thanks for watching!

  • @ronr3623
    @ronr3623 Год назад +2

    Excellent video Matthew, to me bowl lathering is superior, but that is just my opinion! You explained your preference way of lathering and it made a lot of sense at least to me.
    I still brush load for 5 - 10 seconds of CeraVe bar cleanser soap to just brush wash my whole face as a pre-shave procedure and rinse off off after 1 minute of cleaning my face for prep and prefer it over a hot wash towel for a pre-shave method.
    A bar of CeraVe last about 8 months of daily brush loading for 5-10 seconds.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +2

      I can see how the cerave would be nice with the brush. If I do night shaves I wash my face with Noxzema and often thought what it would be like with a shave brush. Thanks for watchingRon!

    • @ronr3623
      @ronr3623 Год назад +1

      @@lawrence1md When I do my daily CeraVe pre-shave I use a 24 mm Cashmere knot because it is soft and dries out faster than natural hair brushes. Give it a whirl you will be pleased IMO.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +2

      @@ronr3623 I’ll have to give it a go sometime. Thanks for sharing and watching!

  • @theblackadder8104
    @theblackadder8104 Год назад +1

    Great approach. How do you measure when using hard pucks like Saponificio Varesino, Tabac, etc? Thanks

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +3

      If it’s a shave stick I just apply to the face. All other hard soaps I use 1/8th teaspoon. Thanks for watching!

  • @seandelaney2297
    @seandelaney2297 Год назад +1

    Great comparison!

  • @SIGSOLO
    @SIGSOLO Год назад +2

    Great vid!
    I'm a bowl latherer!! A Scoopy-doer...
    I can do a face lather, but it gives me irritation afterwards...
    Have a Happy Easter and Stay Safe!
    🙌
    #WAD

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +1

      Right on. I can see how face lathering can cause irritation. Thanks for watching Sig!

  • @DG-cu1vt
    @DG-cu1vt Год назад +1

    I don't even own a bowl. I tub lather with harder soaps and only 10 or 15 seconds. That's all you need. For the creams, I put them on the brush and face lather. It works well for me and I don't want the extra overhead of storing and cleaning bowls when the tub is already a built-in bowl.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +2

      Thanks for watching DG! This works for me except for those hard soaps like WSP…

  • @RobertsReviews1974
    @RobertsReviews1974 Год назад +1

    Great demonstration, thanks you!

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +1

      Kein problem. Danke

    • @RobertsReviews1974
      @RobertsReviews1974 Год назад +1

      @@lawrence1md es ist viel sauberer sich etwas seife mit dem Löffel 🥄 nehmen und dann in der Schüssel den Schaum zu machen und auch sparsamer.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +2

      @@RobertsReviews1974 Du hast Recht

  • @jumpmaster_edc664
    @jumpmaster_edc664 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great info. I’m going to start scooping.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  10 месяцев назад +3

      Let me know how it works out for you. Thanks for watching jumpmaster!

    • @jumpmaster_edc664
      @jumpmaster_edc664 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@lawrence1md will do!

  • @mbuzzmatt
    @mbuzzmatt Год назад +1

    thank you. I am now a bowl lather shaver.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +1

      If tub loading works for you and you enjoy it, I’d stick with it. Thanks for watching Matt!

  • @Leenunes007
    @Leenunes007 Год назад +2

    I think this is the biggest "your mileage may vary" situation in all of wet shaving. I gasped when I saw that tub load as much as if you saw someone do that test using 3 of your scoops because I never load for more than 10 seconds, and my brush starts out much drier so it's not spilling out. 30 seconds of loading is more soap than I use in a week of daily shaves.
    Because I'm a lunatic, I don't like to vary my routine during the playoffs. I'm only going to use one razor, blade, and soap while the Bruins and/or Celtics are still playing. I might try to get 2 new tubs of the same soap and alternate scooping one tub and tub loading from the other. That should be a better sample size to go on.
    Yes. I'm telling myself that I need more soap in the name of science. Buying more soap to get more data in a test about using less soap makes total sense in my feeble mind!
    ...and I really am a lunatic during the playoffs. With 2 teams in the playoffs, I'm going to be a nervous wreck.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +2

      Lee I hope your team wins in the playoffs. This was a fun video to make. I guess I didn’t say your experience may be different or your mileage may vary. Thanks for watching Lee!

    • @Leenunes007
      @Leenunes007 Год назад +1

      @@lawrence1md It really is fun to experiment with stuff like this and change up the routine. When you can do one thing in your sleep you often forget to enjoy it. Trying different things makes you focus more and enjoy what you're doing. That was a fun video.
      I enjoy seeing you do test videos like this how you did with the blades.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад

      @@Leenunes007 I’m all ears if you have any ideas for future videos.

  • @10floz30minutes
    @10floz30minutes Год назад +1

    You can most probably use less than a quarter of a teaspoon of any firm or hard shaving soap. I use about one-eighth teaspoon and have no problems.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +1

      You are right, on the hard soaps you can use less. The soaps that are creamier just contain more water. Thanks for watching!

  • @quinnhawkinson894
    @quinnhawkinson894 Год назад +1

    Thank you for a great video! I will admit, I am a face lather guy. Part of my issue is I need a bigger brush to do a good job using my bowl. But part is me being lazy. Your math and many reasons why make tons of sense. You are going to convert me. I will just tell my lovely wife you said I can buy the custom brush I want. 😂😂😂

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +1

      If tub loading and face lathering works for you, stick with it. A new brush is a win. Thanks for watching Quinn!

  • @TheRustyRazorOriginal
    @TheRustyRazorOriginal Год назад +2

    I'm a scrapper and bowl lather person, my brain doesn't allow scooping and or face lather as that cause irritation

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +2

      Welcome RustyRazor, glad to see you here. It’s funny how the military ingrained routines and habits for me. Thanks for watching!

  • @juleswinnfield6930
    @juleswinnfield6930 Год назад +2

    Good video, was wondering what was better. When I tub load I always let the soap dry for a bit before putting the lid back on. Certain soaps I like to tub lather and certain like to bowl lather. Anyways what do u think of the Droid by PAA? Deciding which PAA to go with as I have not tried any of their soaps. Cheers.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +2

      I like droid black (homage to floïd black), it’s a great scent. Doppelgänger Grey is in the same family of scents but stronger. If you like pinaud clubman you can get PAA clubguy. Thanks for watching Jules!

    • @juleswinnfield6930
      @juleswinnfield6930 Год назад +1

      @@lawrence1md Thank You

    • @JulioRodriguez-vs1qp
      @JulioRodriguez-vs1qp Год назад +1

      Droid black is great. Its on the sweet side though.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +1

      @@JulioRodriguez-vs1qp it is on the sweeter side but I like it.

    • @clintonmumbower4461
      @clintonmumbower4461 Год назад +1

      I ordered some samples and a tub of Doppleganger Gold. I love the gold but that Doppleganger grey smells absolutely fantastic. Ordering a tub of that asap. It is an homage to the creed aventis or however it’s spelled cologne.

  • @BartBuzz
    @BartBuzz Год назад +1

    Interesting demonstration. Way more "scientific" than what I do. While I have scooped out soap to bowl lather, I have never measured it. I'm guessing that I use more or less the same amount as you. Mostly I tub load the brush for harder soaps like Tabac, Stirling, and PAA. However, I don't make a mess as you showed in the video. I basically wet my synthetic brush and squeeze out the excess. Then I swirl the brush for less than 15 seconds until I see what I consider an ample amount on the tip of the brush. I start to bowl lather, adding water until the lather looks like whipped cream. I always have more lather than I need for 3 passes. In my case, I mostly face lather after loading the brush. I will dip the brush into the water and continue to face lather until I'm satisfied with the consistency. I like to face lather because I can work the soap into my beard and soften it for the shave ahead. Recently I have been using shave creams and soft soaps to face lather. I either add the cream or soft soap to the brush or just smear them on my face. Then I face lather the same as before, dipping the tip of the brush into the water until I have a creamy lather. The advantage of face lathering (for me) is there is no bowl to clean. And I don't have to watch all that wasted soap go down the drain 😉 Having opined on what I do, I enjoy wet shaving no matter how I lather. Nice video BTW.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +2

      My tub load was like a kevy shaves style. (Messy)🤣 I do have a couple of hard soaps I load the brush and then bowl lather. What it all comes down to is how you like to shave. Can be quick and simple all the way to complicated and overwhelming. Thanks for watching & sharing Bart!

    • @BartBuzz
      @BartBuzz Год назад +1

      @@lawrence1md Absolutely agree. I always enjoy your straight-talk videos.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +1

      @@BartBuzz that’s the life force behind my videos. I can appreciate you seeing it. Thanks man!!

  • @pincao
    @pincao Год назад +1

    Great Video ! Thanks

  • @boostedbliss07MK5
    @boostedbliss07MK5 Год назад +1

    Ck6 is vegan correct? I haven’t tried any PAA soaps yet. The 2 vegan soaps I tried didn’t have the cushion and post shave tallow soaps give me so far so I was reluctant to try more.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +3

      Yes it is vegan. I agree with you that tallow has a little more too it for shave comfort. Thanks for watching!

    • @boostedbliss07MK5
      @boostedbliss07MK5 Год назад +1

      @@lawrence1md glad it wasn’t just in my head & u notice the subtle difference too. I have a hard time spending $25 for a tub of soap especially vegan. $20 is pushing my cheap guy limit because razororock mudder focker is $10 and wow is it nice at any price let alone $10! Makes it harder for me to spend the $$ on the “artisan” soaps
      Thanks for the replies.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +1

      @@boostedbliss07MK5 razorock soaps are often overlooked. I think they are a great bang for the buck!

    • @boostedbliss07MK5
      @boostedbliss07MK5 Год назад +1

      @@lawrence1md I have 2 other razorrock soaps and they are nice but the mudder focker with the fullers earth mudd is definitely a cut above the other 2 I have! It also is the most wow lather popping soap I have of any brand. I can never decide if I’m thrilled it’s only $10 or pissed off I’ve paid $20+ for other tubs 🤣💀

  • @carlitos_shaves
    @carlitos_shaves Год назад +2

    Used to tub load (ok, sometimes I do 5% of the time...) but I prefer to bowl lather. I believe I have more control of the lather. Great video Matt!

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +2

      I enjoy the consistency of bowl lathering. I do have a couple of hard soaps that I will load from the tub. Thanks for watching Carlitos!

  • @10floz30minutes
    @10floz30minutes Год назад +1

    Either scoop, or scrape, or slice. No more "tub" loading for me.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +1

      If it’s something you might like, come on over to the scooping side but if tub lathering works for you, stick with it. Thanks for watching!

  • @Tobins_throwbacks
    @Tobins_throwbacks Год назад +1

    I'll dm you my thoughts lol. Great vid as always brother

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +1

      If you have any requests or suggestions let me know. Thanks for watching Tobin!

  • @boostedbliss07MK5
    @boostedbliss07MK5 Год назад +1

    “Im not a scientist” proceeds to get gram scale, syringe out 🤣
    Awesome idea! Never thought of using a syringe to measure water!
    When I started I found different soaps & brushes made bowl use more tricky for me. I had better luck face lathered from the tub.
    I recently got some samples and simply dab the soap onto my face in several spots then face lather.
    Tub lather is probably more wasteful. I load for 11 seconds. When I started it was 33 seconds and realized how much soap I was wasting.
    Is your shaving razor cabinet custom? I’d love to see a close up/show n tell of your setup! I have a similar holder for my razors but not my brushes. Is the brush holder custom?

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +2

      I made the cabinet for my razors and the brushes. I couldn’t find anything that I liked for my space that was store bought. Thanks for watching!

    • @boostedbliss07MK5
      @boostedbliss07MK5 Год назад +1

      @@lawrence1md wow. Looks awesome. I’d enjoy getting a close up of it.

  • @Tobins_throwbacks
    @Tobins_throwbacks 10 месяцев назад +1

    Watching this for what may be my 3rd time 🤔🤫

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  10 месяцев назад +1

      What’s your thoughts about it now, compared to the first time? Thanks for watching Tobin!

  • @danielhannon5319
    @danielhannon5319 Год назад +1

    I prefer a shave soap puck that I can put in the microwave to soften it a bit it's easier for me to create a lather!

  • @Tobins_throwbacks
    @Tobins_throwbacks Год назад +1

    Randy?

  • @Tobins_throwbacks
    @Tobins_throwbacks Год назад +1

    👍👍🙏

  • @shavingwithpegleg3813
    @shavingwithpegleg3813 Год назад +1

    Great video Matthew. I bowl lather for the most part, some soaps do tend to be a face lather type tho. People questioning how much water how much soap how long to mix etc etc are over thinking it. Add some soap, add some water, mix. Add more water and repeat. Needing to know exact amounts will just lead to an aneurusm. Sorry to hear about your softness problem but thanks to the miracle of modern science their is a cure for that so don't give up hope.

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +2

      I face lather some soaps, usually sticks or pucks. It’s easy to over complicate it if one wants to. Thanks for watching Scott!

  • @Anthony-zw1qb
    @Anthony-zw1qb Год назад +1

    Tub load a hard soap. Scoop a soft soap :-)

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md  Год назад +2

      Right on! Thanks for watching James