What the Bible is and ISN'T with Tim Mackie (Co-founder of Bible Project)
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
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In this video, Dr. Tim Mackie and I explore the question of what is the Bible, what isn't the Bible, where did the Bible come from, and how should we read the Bible? Tim is the co-founder of Bible Project, one of the world's most popular theology channels. In this video, Tim shares how Bible Project started, what the journey has been like, and what the future holds for Bible Project. Of special interest to my audience, Tim and I discuss what Bible Project has to offer for Catholics and Orthodox Christians as well as the ecumenical outlook of biblical theology. On a personal level, Tim has been one of my most formative influences, and this was an experience I am not soon to forget.
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I just started reading the Bible first time in my life!
Good for you! Great decisions!
@@peter_hobbs Thankyou! Only one page. But it’s a start. I hope to finish a chapter.
Catana bible app is great
@@joseonwalking8666 ok Thankyou
YouVersion Bible App is also awesome! You can find lots of helpful resources on it! I’m actually going through the BibleProject’s, “One Story That leads to Jesus” devotional plan and it’s been so helpful and engaging to continue to know more about the structure of the Bible and the overall beauty of it and how it all ties to Jesus♥️ @WyldStyleVloggs
Not to be dramatic but I want Tim Mackie to adopt me.
I don’t consider this dramatic at all😂
Very reasonable to me.
Same here although I may be 20 years old lol
Why wouldn't you want God to receive you instead. Because He's the source of whatever fascinates you from Timmy.
@@einarabelc5 🙄
The Bible Project videos are the most Christ-centered videos I have ever seen. Jesus said the scripture is about him in John 5 and Luke 24 The Road to Emmaus. All their videos ultimately leads to Christ.
Glad you enjoy them!
“This guy Jesus who did this stuff!” Mackie’s excitement and understated but thorough descriptions delight me.
He’s fantastic
Mackie has my ❤️
I’m so glad he shared his testimony! I’ve been wanting to hear it. It’s incredible how he went to not knowing the mysteries of the word and then suddenly became one of the most influential biblical teachers in this generation. Incredible
Right? What a story!
Protestant here. I'm so happy to hear that they are planning to do Apocrypha. I've been wanting to learn more about those books, but have so little background teaching on them that I've hesitated to take the plunge "out of context."
I so appreciate Tim's humility ❤️
Right?
What a delightful conversation. I can't believe I haven't come across the Bible Project before. I will definitely have to check it out.
Tim's focus on the God centered narrative vs handbook approach is an important one. When we lose sight of the theo drama we tend to project our ego into the scriptures. We also lose sight of the wonderful over arching themes and types that conveying deep truths about God. It's a powerful way to introduce non-believers to the truths of the Bible.
St. Augustine summed it up nicely when he stated that "the New Testament is concealed in the Old, and the Old Testament is revealed in the New".
Glad you enjoyed it! Hope you benefit from their work!
The Bible Project was my first entry into critical Biblical inquiry. I admire Dr. Mackie and his ministry! In 2016, I became Catholic in large part due to the further examination of the Bible that Dr. Mackie emphasizes in his ministry. I know that he’s not Catholic, but I’m still giving the credit where it’s due! The Bible Project ministry took me from a non-Christian, to a Christian, and ultimately led me to explore the mind of the Church such that I entered full communion with the Catholic Church.
Wow! Thanks for sharing this!
@@GospelSimplicity my pleasure! God bless
Welcome home!
WOW!!! My favorite Bible scholar in the world. Tim has had such a huge impact on my journey. What a great guest to have on!
That’s awesome!
God used this man and the bible project to change my prayer and quiet time . I used to really struggle with reading the bible but the read scripture app has literally changed that for me. I've learnt so much. Thank you. ❤️❤️❤️
Wow, I'm so glad to hear that! Praise God
Tim Mackie is an amazing Bible scholar. I enjoy his talks and his works, he's great.
@47:00 God was the original story teller... He invented the "cliff hanger"... and filled His story with "Easter eggs"... and began His story with a "flashback"... Gave His people a huge "twist" to the story when Yeshua came as a humble servant instead of a military leader... and had a triumphant ending when the hero re-appears when all seemed lost. He is AMAZING!!!
Great conversation, great content! Thanks for the excellent work, Tim and Austin. Love and blessings from South Africa! ❤️🇿🇦
My pleasure!
Despite your young age you teach with such gentleness, and humor that I think this must be what Jesus was like when he came amongst his people. It’s been lovely to watch the Bible project videos and I’ve grown because of your sermons. Thank you for the book references I loved the book “ when helping hurts” .
This interview is my introduction to Gospel Simplicity. Wonderful interview with Tim Mackie, one of my favorite biblical scholars. And Austin, you are an excellent interviewer. Can't tell you how much of a blessing this is to me.
Welcome to the channel! I'm so glad you enjoyed the interview
I loveTim’s perspective on the Bible. His humility and grace towards others is so inspiring. 👍🏻
55:16 Paradosis my friend. It is so refreshing!!! The Energies-Essence distinction makes things so much more intuitive in a sence.
Tim Mackie is the best. His video introduced me to the concept of Godspace. That's the most fascinating and concept I've ever heard.
Thank you Austin and Tim for such a down to earth and meaningful convo. It gives me a much-needed shot in the arm to see this kind of faith still in action in the year 2021!
Glad to hear that!
I've been waiting for this one
Hope you enjoyed it!
Tim's insight, videos, and sermons have been so eye opening for me
I'm glad to hear that!
First time here on your channel! I've been so blessed as well by Dr. Mackie's work. Praise God for this interview and the love for God that is so evident. Great job! Will be coming back for more!
Really enjoyed this conversation. Thank you for taking the time to put all this together.
Saw this video featured on Ruslan's stream earlier. Really looking forward to checking out more of your channel.
Glad you enjoyed it! Welcome to the channel! That came as quite a surprise to me today
Thanks for this interview, Austin. And thanks, Tim. I've really enjoyed your videos. We use them to teach the bible in our confirmation classes.
My pleasure!
Thank you for the awesome conversation full of information! Well done!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This was a fantastic conversation. Thank you both 😊
Thanks for listening!
I love the idea of exploring the apocrypha! The historical relevance of the bible is so thrilling to me. I've always know it was a historical accurate book, but couldn't find the resources to bring it all together. Beautiful job by the Bible Project ❤️
I'm so excited on the deuterocanonical books of the Bible Project!!!!! I love this interview. Thank you Gospel Simplicity!
Glad to hear that! My pleasure
Tim mackie is amazing! Thanks for interviewing him!
Came here from Ruslan KD's podcast. Thank you. Please don't stop what you're doing.
Thanks! Welcome to the channel!
My favourite human. Thank you Dr Tim 🙌🙌
My channel and understanding of scripture has been largely influenced by Bible Project and so I loved listening to this interview! Thanks @gospel simplicity for putting it out there and so timely too 👍
My pleasure!
such a fun interview. Cool to hear Tim's and TBP's story.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Now I know where the question and answer dialogue in many of their videos has come from!
Dude your channel has grown so much! Congrats!
Thanks! It's been a wild ride
I have seriously been considering getting a master's from Western Seminary because of all the knowledge and understanding I've gained from Dr. Mackie and the Bible Project. I just learned about the classroom experience from you so I'm so excited to check that out.
I would definitely recommend checking classroom out! It's free which is hard to beat
Come first to Multnomah and sit at the feet of the master Dr. Ray Lubeck. The man twice a week breaks my brain when it comes to reading the Bible. He is also the man who is responsible for Tim Macky
Great channel mate and great content. Instant subscribe. Cheers!
the Bible Project Podcast has been the most influential for me. The long form discussion, going deep into the text, with John asking fantastic questions and pressing hard issues has been the most powerful ministry in my opinion the Bible Project does.
Great interview!
I can sympathize with Dr.Tim's concern about how the Bible is used mainly as a "rule book" about certain behavior i.e. good or bad behavior. Yes, to some extent the Bible is clear with what acts are deplorable and what pleases God but the Bible is WAY MORE THAN THIS. It is first and foremost about God and His pursuit of us, His self-giving, His sacrifice, His triumph, and His power of transforming the world that is starting in our REFORM to being images of Him- becoming Christ-like.
The Bible is about Lord Jesus. This is foundational.
PS
I like the Bible Project and it helped me also in my reading of Scriptures. As a catholic myself, I hope Dr. Tim may someday do the Deuterocanonicals or what others call intertestamental. This hope stems from the idea that he studies the Septuagint also and since he said he has plans making this a reality.
Glad to hear that! Towards the end he mentions that they will be doing that!
This was great! I just discovered your channel with this video and am hooked and am subscribed! Thank you for the work your doing!
God bless you my friend!
I'm so glad you enjoyed it! Welcome to the community! It's truly my pleasure, God bless you too
I just seen this and absolutely loved it! I am a big fan of both Tim and John! I first learned of them through my professor at my school in Bristol Tennessee. My professor whom passed away November of 2022 had his PHD in the Torah and changed my life. These videos he used in our curriculum and he was a huge supporter of both these guys. Praise God and Thank You Professor Hudson and Thank You to you both! Thank you! In Jesus's Name that is Holy we live for Him. Their app is awesome BTW!
Just subscribed! Lov Tim Mk. God bless you both!
JILA,......Then you love false teaching and deception. These guys have nothing to do with God or Biblical truth.
Just cool💌awesome🕊Blessings 💗
You have such good chemistry with him bro!
Thanks!
you must be pagan?
@@krackerToo Christian of the True Christian Church: The Catholic Church. I presume you are of your father the devil, the father of all lies, and plan to use mockery and deceit to attempt to mock True Christians? Doesn't work with me buddy, I am too steadfast in the Lord to allow myself to be beguiled by one of the devil's "ministers of righteousness."
It's because he looks a lot like the other Bible project guy 🤣
Thank you so much for this interview! As a Christian in the Catholic Church, I have learned so much thanks to the Bible Project! So happy to hear that they are going to study the Deuteronomical books as well!!! And, since we don't look at the Bible as a scientific book, the Bible Project is one of the few places where I have found a better explanation of Genesis.
Awesome 👏🏽
Love you brothers. May the Father’s Word keep your paths lit. Be Davids hands and heart for His herd through the power of His son.🔥
Amen
When someone recovers from a sickness, we Greeks say: "(be like) steel"!
Thanks for the video.
Σιδερένιος!
Tim Mackie and the Bible Project have been massive in my spiritual growth and love for Jesus and scripture. I would love to pick his brain on why he isn't catholic or Orthodox.
Hopefully one day
God bless you both.
Thanks!
Great questions! Great interview! Subscribed✅
Thanks!
I just found your channel, and enjoyed your conversation with Tim Mackie. He’s a wonderful teacher, and we love what he and others have been doing with “The Bible Project.” That’s really neat that you’re going to Moody! We use to live in Naperville/Aurora area for a long time, and we knew several people who went to Moody. Great school! I look forward to following you here, and saw your comment about you having Mike Heiser on with you soon, as well! That’s great! Another wonderful teacher! Thank you for seeking and serving our Lord Jesus.
PL,.....The fact is, neither of these guys have anything to do with God. They are selling an entirely different religion to that of Christianity.
Glad you found the channel! God bless
This is pure gold. I have so much respect for Dr. Tim Mackie; he is so knowledgeable on this topic. I became a Christian 4 years ago, knowing nothing about the bible. I joined an evangelical protestant campus group which was very helpful in leading me towards knowledge in the basic faith questions (ie. who is the Holy Spirit, how do I pray, what is the trinity). But now that I've matured more in my faith, I'm asking more complex questions, one of which is WHAT is the bible and HOW should I view it? I have struggled with this question for more than a year now, flipping back and forth between what seems to be two extremes: either the bible is absolutely perfect and cannot be questioned, or the bible is inherently flawed and should not be taken too seriously. I have never felt at home in either of these camps, and have been searching for a middle ground. Now, I finally feel like there IS an alternate way to view that bible that isn't either extremely conservative or liberal, which takes historical context and the nature of the bible into consideration. Dr. Mackie was right in saying that this in-between view of the bible is more work and not easily digestible, and in fact leads to even MORE questions. Yet, it is our job (I believe) to understand the bible in the way the Jesus would have. If we are trying to model our lives after this man, we should try to understand what his life was like and what his bible looked like when he was here. I am currently reading Dr. Peter Enns, who appears to view the bible similarly to Dr. Mackie. I still have much to learn, but this interview just excites me so much. I am so thankful that this interview was done because I am trying to learn more about this area of theology and it's so hard to find!! Thank you for this content :)
How to read the Bible responsibly: Understand that although the Scriptures are authoritative, your private interpretation is not.
Amen!
Yup. If you don't like some theme in the Bible, then there's something wrong with your thinking, not the Bible.
Yes but biblical theology doesn't have a concept of magesterium, it's just not a biblical concept
Austin, this is my first time commenting. But after this video I just had to. I did not know who Tim Mackie is, nor did I know what the Bible Project is. In the week or so since watching this video I have just been devouring the content on both the the Bible Project channel and the Tim Mackie Archives channel. What an amazing resource he is! And I can say - to the best of my discernment and coming from an Orthodox perspective - that his theology is properly (small o) orthodox. And I would consider it (capital O) Orthodox. Thank you so much, Austin, for bringing him to my attention - and for all the great work you do on this channel. God bless you, my Protestant brother, in everything you do! (And congratulations on your recent engagement!)
Glad I could introduce you to their great work! Thanks!
I want to discuss my learnings with you!!! I also learned a lot from the tim mackie archives and I'm learning about Orthodoxy through Gospel Simplicity. If only we can remove "terms" we call ourselves, for sure we will be much more united.
I would've been the same kind of fan boy interviewing him.
One thing I thought tho during the interview is that as we progress our Biblical knowledge (and others are not) we need to show Grace to those functioning on less than ideal paradigms. Your fiance isn't doing anything wrong, it's a journey that God will take those children to become deeper readers later in life. God is always speaking with the current language that the people are speaking and then calling certain people to move others in a specific direction.
It's hard to imagine that anyone at skatepark church had a PhD in Biblical studies, but boy did they do their job well in sharing Jesus. "We preach Christ crucified" .
Blessings on this channel!
This was a PHENOMENAL episode! (I watched on Patreon). So much rich wisdom and genuine love of the Bible, and I felt such a kinship to you both as you share your passion of knowledge, growth, and understanding what it means to be human 🤍 I, like you, am a huge BP nerd and listen to their podcasts weekly so I was secondhand excited for you getting to talk with Tim! This one is a must watch! I’ll be sending it to all my friends 👏🏻
Thanks!
Love you Tim!
10 part series about Sermon on the Mount?!
Can’t wait!
Right?!
Tim is awesome!
Indeed!
Also, I dont mind learning from sincere Protestants and I dont mind being challenged with m "default" beliefs. It is very interesting to continue learning from other perspective. The Bible Project and Gospel Simplicity are wonderful channels and I am not ashamed to admit that I have learned a lot from these good channels!
I love that perspective!
@@GospelSimplicity Especially coming from a church father lol!
@@FabrizioRodulfo lol, just wait until he encounters a very sincere Arian channel. I’d like to see how Athanasius would respond to that.
@@bman5257 Exactly lol!
@@bman5257 i'd defend the Divinity of Christ, call thr attention of Bishops so they will call an ecumenical council then obliterate this "sincere" Arian in that council. I'll ally myself with a dude named Nicolas and that dude will slap the spirit out of that Arius guy. This is what i'll do 😶
Im a new (transfered to) and Methodists and have really got allot from your videos.
Glad to hear that!
STOP 😍 what a dream team!! Soooo looking forward to this!
Hope you enjoy it!
I love The Bible Project and have been using their videos often in my church small group sessions. There's another great channel called Crosspaint which I've been using a lot recently as well, Bible book walkthrough videos and all, quite similar to The Bible Project albeit a younger channel. (not affiliated to them in any way, just thought it's worth a mention)
Thanks for the recommendation!
My Old Testament professor said two things about the Apocrypha. One was that some favorite Protestant doctrines, like predestination, aren’t unambiguously present in the Protestant Old Testament but show up in the Apocrypha. And, when we asked him if he thought we’d ever open the Canon up again he said that at the very least I Maccabees should be included.
These people need all the help they can get. They've been doing such a great job at removing confusion is undescribable. Go hipster pastor go!!
The Bible Project is amazing!
Indeed!
Oh my, rhema (sp) you're correct, we must NOT take a paragraph or sentence out & alter it to fit what we want.. Thank you
i feel like tim could talk about food science and Id be engaged in every word.
Haha, fair point!
Looking forward to this, The Bible Project is awesome.
Hope you enjoy it!
Whoah! I love Tim! This is going to be awesome.
Hope you enjoy it! I know I did!
I must say I am quite jealous of your opportunity to speak to such a great mind. I always wish I could just sit down with Tim over coffee and learn.
I am so grateful I got to do this! Highlight of my RUclips career so far
@@GospelSimplicity Well you did a great job hosting Tim, and it was a joy to listen. I'm really enjoying your channel so far. Discovered it a few days ago with your theology books to read video, definitely gonna try and through that list.
BibleProject is Changing my life too
So glad to hear that!
You should get Michael S. Heiser on one of these days!
I just interviewed him! It will be out soon
Yup... M S Heiser. Good one.....
Shalom.
Peace and Grace be to you and those you love.
Thank you for this interview with my beloved brother.
Tim is imho the best bible teacher at this time.
He is one of the few people that have a true understanding of the spiritual nature of the scriptures.
While he knows way more than most people give him credit for, he is so humble and relaxed.
A great example of the work God does with the inward man and the spiritual fruits.
May God bless Him and all those he hold dear.
May our beloved Father Jesus Christ also bless you and your channel abundantly. Amen.
JIGAA,.....Sorry, but you are 100% mistaken. Tim does not understand the Bible and is not a man of God, he is a blind, lost, and deceived man of the Godless world. He is a false teacher. Those that have had their eyes opened by Jesus can clearly see this. Those that remain spiritually blinded by God/Jesus cannot and are deceived.
@@tonybasoni8443
Shalom Tony.
Peace and Grace be to you.
Thank you for your opinion.
May God bless you and may He be tireless working on the strenghtening of your inward man. Amen.
@@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 ,....I did not give you my opinion, I gave you the truth of Gods word.
Also, we have two entirely different religions. Mine of God/Jesus and the actual truth of Gods word, and yours of the Godless world and all its false teachings of unsaved Godless men. So, I am confused as to why you have spoken to me like we are brothers, we are not.
@@tonybasoni8443
Shalom Tony.
Peace and Grace be to you.
Thank you again for expressing your opinion.
Truly i say to you, may you find peace in your heart by the blessing of the holy ghost. Amen.
Can’t wait to listen to this tomorrow at work!
Glad I found your channel. I found out about The Bible Project/Read Scripture through Francis Chan. They led me through the Bible cover to cover for 5 years. What an amazing journey. So grateful for Tim’s teachings and the Bible Project’s easily understood segments on Holy Scripture.
I’m looking forward to digging deeper in your site as well.
Tim Mackie and the Bible project made me a Bible nerd.
good stuff
same here I love to learn
Glad to hear that!
This is going to be legendary
Great job with Tim’s interview!
I’d love for you to do a podcast in ‘the unity’ of the NY with the OT..
I’m not very technical and was wondering if you have an index of previous podcast subjects?
Thanks! That could be an interesting podcast. I do not have an index system
As a guy who has read through the Bible annually for maybe a decade and a half and has an undergraduate and graduate education in the Bible, the question of "what the Bibel is and isn't" is so fundamental intellectually/academically and more importantly in my relationship with God. It is so shocking to admit how seeing the Bible as a reference book rather than a relationship book has really allowed me to fail in my relationship with the Lord too often. I wonder if Dr. Mackie and his esteemed colleague John have thought about writing a book about what the Bible is and isn't. Thank you, Gospel Simplicity and brother Dr. Mackie. I'm a monthly Bible Project supporter.
I'm glad to hear that you enjoy these questions! It's my pleasure. That would be a great book!
This has been phenomenal Austin ! All the comments I thought about saying have been said already and even the question about 'videos'? on the books not in the protestant Bible. I wanted to ask that and you have answered it for me Tim. Wow. What a way to spend an hour. So precious so informative. God bless you both and your ministries. Happy and Blessed Easter.
So glad you enjoyed it!
I'm Catholic and Bible Project along with Ascension Presents & Word on Fire are my three absolute anchors
Nice!
@@GospelSimplicity was so great to hear they are considering doing the deutero-canon and promoting unity :)
didn’t watch the video yet but the thumbnail instantly made me think you were a younger version of Tim
Haha, I’ll take it!
i love that he is not about making converts so many christians are about getting another notch on their belts. he is about loving JESUS and letting the fruit just pop out of a good grounding
Amen
Super hyped. Tim Mackie is so great.
I had a great time with this one! Hope you enjoy it!
Thanks Austen. You’re a great host.
@@bman5257 my pleasure!
We need a Scott Hahn - Bible Project crossover
THAT WOULD BE EPIC.
He has a 500$ booking fee :(
@@eternalbyzantium262 that’s gross.
@@IAMFISH92 I wouldn't say it's gross. Hahn is one of the most popular Catholic speakers in the country. He has to budget his time with all the work he does, and can't do every speaking arrangement he's offered without massive blows to productivity.
@@IAMFISH92 why is that gross?
I’ve been watching the bible project and Tim Mackie’s lecturers for a few years now and they’ve taught me so much. But one thing has me curious - Tim mentions often about his skateboarding, but I’ve never seen any videos of him skating! So come on Tim, at least pop an ollie for us dude!
Haha, that would be awesome!
WOW my two favs coming together!!!
Thanks!
You must grow our relationship with God!
I always like Tim
He's fantastic!
Love Tim 😍
I was SO excited to do this one
I want to meet Tim one day
I wish this interview was 3 hours long...❤️
Me too!
@@GospelSimplicity do a second video maybe? 🤞🏻
It was great to hear (around the one hour mark) that the Bible Project will be working on videos feauturing the Protestant Dueterocanon. It is fantastic to hear that a Protestant Audience will come around to hearing some of these works, likely for the first time.
I'm interested to see how the approach will go: his channel may catch flak from Protestants who will consider his featuring of the Dueterocanon to be paying lip-service to "pagan literature"; on the other hand, they will catch flak from Orthodox and Roman Catholic viewers who may consider his treatment of the canon to be perhaps dismissive or disrespectful.
It's a bold move, with likely little to gain. Nonetheless, it is the right thing to do. May God be with them as they begin to work on those videos.
It’ll be interesting!