Old wine industry joke. "When was the last time you confused Gamay for Pinot? Do you mean since lunch time?" Old Vine Grenache is very similar to Gamay. You guys were on the money
This is so interesting. I went online to check all the bottles used in this vid and I 100% understand why it was such a difficult task for you all. Even among the Gamays, there are so many expressions that contradict one another~~
Gamay with really good producers still has great value, and agree wines are cleaner than they used to be. Foillard is my guy, as well as Anne Sophie Dubois
@wineforthepeople thivin makes some serious age worthy cuvees from gamay (and some rosé and white). Their premium cuvee Zacccharie is yummy young and has a lot of stuffing to go all the way. Even though prices have increased the past vintages it still represents good QPR. A wine that can definitely compete (pleasure- quality-wise) with pinots that cost two to three times the price.
It is "pee." My wife and I were actually in Beaujolais this past summer (yay work trip nearby!) and went to some cru wineries. One of the wines was "Le Hauts du Py" and the guy pronounced it "pee." There you go!
Côte du Py is probably the most famous vineyard/climat in the Beaujolais, capable of making superb wines that hit way beyond their pricepoint. If they are available in Australia try Jean Foillard Morgon Classique, Côte du Py & Fleury, Jules Desjournes Moulin a Vent, Chateau Cambon Beaujolais, Philippe Pacalet Moulin a Vent, Thillardon Chenas Chassignol.
100% agreed with the sentiment that Gamay isn’t as good as people make it out to be. Save for a handful of super reliable producers, I probably have the highest disappointment rate with Gamay than another varietal. Obviously when you could buy high grade cru for $20USD/bottle the value proposition was much more enticing, but that’s not the case when those same wines are now $50USD a pop.
@zacjordan614 I'd have to disagree here but that must because I'm French and did spend quite some time exploring the beaujolais region in and out. There are some world class producers there flying under the radar that still sell massive bottles for under 20 euro
love this episode, you guys are hilarious
Haha thanks so much!
Old wine industry joke. "When was the last time you confused Gamay for Pinot? Do you mean since lunch time?"
Old Vine Grenache is very similar to Gamay. You guys were on the money
Thanks so much - this was definitely a challenging tasting!
Little Support Form Hong Kong audience - nice content!
OMG thank you so much! That's wildly kind of you!!!!!
Interesting and fun guys
How on earth do you not have way more subscribers? Btw, it's pronounced cote du Pee.
Haha far too kind - we are very happy with the ones we have!
This is so interesting. I went online to check all the bottles used in this vid and I 100% understand why it was such a difficult task for you all. Even among the Gamays, there are so many expressions that contradict one another~~
I suppose one persons contradiction is another persons complex!
Totally agree about not loving Gamay!
Overhyped we think!
@@wineforthepeople Definitely much more likely to go for some budget Rhone over Beaujolais
A basic Côte du Rhône offers a lot of value
I need to drink more Gamay
We all need to - evidently!
Gamay with really good producers still has great value, and agree wines are cleaner than they used to be. Foillard is my guy, as well as Anne Sophie Dubois
l'alchimiste is a banger
Foillard ROCKS - still hyped though - always been impressed.
Good tip!
Côte de Py (coat du pee is the best approximative spelling you can get in English)
PEEEEEEEE!~
Ch Thivin is probably my favorite producer of Gamay 😋
Understandable! Why is that?!
@wineforthepeople thivin makes some serious age worthy cuvees from gamay (and some rosé and white). Their premium cuvee Zacccharie is yummy young and has a lot of stuffing to go all the way. Even though prices have increased the past vintages it still represents good QPR. A wine that can definitely compete (pleasure- quality-wise) with pinots that cost two to three times the price.
It is "pee." My wife and I were actually in Beaujolais this past summer (yay work trip nearby!) and went to some cru wineries. One of the wines was "Le Hauts du Py" and the guy pronounced it "pee." There you go!
Côte du Py is probably the most famous vineyard/climat in the Beaujolais, capable of making superb wines that hit way beyond their pricepoint. If they are available in Australia try Jean Foillard Morgon Classique, Côte du Py & Fleury, Jules Desjournes Moulin a Vent, Chateau Cambon Beaujolais, Philippe Pacalet Moulin a Vent, Thillardon Chenas Chassignol.
@@louiskuypers550 and Mee Godard’s take on the different climates of Morgon, in a more Burgundyesque style, are worth checking too!
Must be why it looked like Pinot! Haha!
Good hot tip!
Don't forger Foillard's Corcelette... really good juice
And I'd also add the single vineyard Moulin-à-Vent from Château des Jacques (Jadot)... Thorins especially.
Is it chill if I chill here?
100% agreed with the sentiment that Gamay isn’t as good as people make it out to be. Save for a handful of super reliable producers, I probably have the highest disappointment rate with Gamay than another varietal. Obviously when you could buy high grade cru for $20USD/bottle the value proposition was much more enticing, but that’s not the case when those same wines are now $50USD a pop.
@zacjordan614 I'd have to disagree here but that must because I'm French and did spend quite some time exploring the beaujolais region in and out. There are some world class producers there flying under the radar that still sell massive bottles for under 20 euro
Yeah, the promise is definitely greater than the reality
I suppose - if you know how to navigate around the disappointing stuff - or just find the right wines to personal preference...
Coat-du-Pee! 😂