Same here, i just keep them in a different room. I just revived my old sempron 3300+ system last week to see if it still lived after having it for over 20 years. Its honestly impressive how long can pc hardware last, even if it sat for majority of its life.
Ikr lol Haven't checked but pretty sure my old MacBook Pro will be way too old for this, and it was the highest speced model back in the day and still works fine. I even turn it on on occasion when I need to get an old file off of Logic Pro X or Final Cut. (Switched the the Windows Adobe suite since then)
@@datachu to be fair my old razer blade was similar pricing to the MacBooks from 4 years ago and it’s actually still chugging along. I think once you buy a laptop over a thousand dollars the stereotype of cheap windows laptops drops off a cliff. Even less nowadays with the ryzen laptops at 600-700.
@@smugler1 true, I have it running on a 10 year old Sony vaio, although the 1366x768 resolution isn’t that good with my 2 4K monitors, latency is nice.
@@smugler1 Why is the separate hardware dongle needed for the Windows version anyway tho? Like, what does it do? And why can't they just update the firmware of whatever the fuck you just paid $100+ for? No seriously, what snake oil is ACTUALLY INSIDE THE DONGLE? I can't find a single photo or video of the inside, no one has asked this question and there's no FAQ question on their site about it whatsoever. I mean look at this video closer. In wired mode the cable goes directly between the two PCs, not through some port on the dongle? And how come Apple can achieve half the latency without any dongles? Why is the claimed latency on their website not even remotely accurate and the actual latency LTT measured around the same as Miracast (which also supports touch)? Does this not all smell a little fishy in the air? Cause I'm smelling a scam right now... And it's a real strong stench too
@@TonyCarragan-oc9nq it’s called target display mode. You need to use DisplayPort to Mini DisplayPort. Turn Mac on and press command and f2 on apple keyboard
@@richarddcrossley I wished that this would work with my old imac, which still has snow leopard on it. My Biggest problem is that the onboard graphic chip got burned, while being in sleeping mode. The official repair would have costed around 600€+. As a result i can't really boot into the OS and display anything. The only solution i can think of is to take it apart and connect a display control unit to it.
@@alexrevna7959 LTT is just one channel of their company and they can decide video titles. They just use those clickbait titles in the beginning so it shows up that way in the notifications of subscribed people, then, after some time, they change back to the "real" title.
I used Duet Display back in the day myself, it was pretty good for the time but these days I use SpaceDesk and Parsec. Both have great performance and consistency, and pretty low latency. LTT themselves did a video on using Parsec for video editing! I feel sorry for anyone who actually bought into this *obvious* Luna display scam.
For Android Superdisplay is awesome app for anyone who want to use their stylus as almost native pen input in windows. It literally tricks the windows into thinking into having pen input inbuilt to the display itself. Which makes pen input and gestures in windows almost native experience
I like that Linus is promoting the importance of recycling. I love that he repeatedly calls out Apple and their abusive attempts to crush other people’s efforts to recycle/reuse Apple products.
@ik ur cool There's no need to post your spammy inspirational video here. By the way, there is no Allah. Or any other magical beings, grow up. No Santa either, sorry.
For 130 dollars, I’d rather just get a second display instead of repurposing an old Mac. They have decent resell value too, so unless the gadget’s 50 dollars or less, or it works on broken macs with functional displays, I don’t find this at all useful.
@@roguenify I don’t think there’s much of a point having glossy displays, they just reflect sunlight and show how dirty they are much better. If a new mac came out, and had matte or glossy displays as an option, 9/10 would choose the matte display because it’s just better.
@@milkyy4168 Glossy displays offer more vibrant colors and picture quality, hence why TVs, tablets, and smartphones are glossy, not matte. In terms of picture/video quality, glossy wins. Sunlight reflection isn't a problem for me based on the lighting in my home, so I don't benefit from a matte display. Matte displays are beneficial for office workers, but less-so for at-home workers.
So you have a dongle, that is not really needed, cause everything is in software. And its using pretty much a technology that Linux had since introduction of x11 in 1987. And it costs a lot. Am I missing something?
No, as far as I know you're not missing anything. You can download the app for free from astropad's website and use an ipad as a secondary display with no dongle. It supports both mac and pc, and works like a graphics tablet with an apple pencil. I've been using it for a while. I don't really know what the dongle is for, since apparently there is still a lot of latency as Linus shows.
To be fair, x11 over the network is really slow and not designed for modern GTK/Qt apps (and fundementally works a lot differently than this, since its rendering using the remote GPU and just streaming video). Wayland doesnt support it at all, but you can probably achieve something similar using PipeWire
@@Virginiafox21 The dedicated dongle makes sense if you want to take the laptop/tablet combo and use it elsewhere. Its the sort of niche product that makes sense in its niche, but then the marketers try and sell it as a solution to all problems.
Kyle K yeah, I guess if you really want to be wireless. But the app works plugged in too. The only one I saw was having an iPad as the only display for a Mac mini, which seems like it could be cool.
I've been using Luna Display since the beginning to use my iPad as a client monitor or for the stylists to work off of on set, and it's freaking AMAZING. Super stable for me, and the range is only limited by your network. Works fantastic on location. Do recommend, have 4 of their adapters.
I'd love to see a comparison with Parsec on Mac/Windows, with their "lower latency" and "suitable for gaming" claims it should be a solid competitor to this product.
@@matekovacs2696 they have trillion dollars by making you buy different devices running different OS and Apps with same processor, all designed and artificially limited by same company. If MacBook gets touchscreen, it eats into their Tablet sales and if iPad gets desktop features, then it eats into their laptop sales.
@@karrenanthony6327 That won't bother you if you trade with a professional like Expert Williams Peterson.. My first Investment of $3000 Mr Williams on forex has earned me profits of over $24,320 within 15days
this is honestly really cool because as you said it combats the anti consumerist nature of companies nowadays. it’s so exhausting to see more and more features getting taken away from us and us having to accept it so the ability to fight back is great
@great day What is this "uff" word they say I shouldn't say to my parents? Is it like a slur for old people? I don't care about any of the other nonsense, just "uff".
Yup. My only complaint with spacedesk is that it doesn't support gpu acceleration so you'll need a beefy CPU if you want to do more than browse the web while using it.
Neat Never heard of it before but I could have some uses for it. How is the lag? Like could you watch a movie or play a game from the secondary device?
@@Catsrules1 For me its pretty much perfect! I used to run it on a Tab S6 on wifi and it really felt smooth without any drops (my wifi is real stable), you can adjust the framerate from 30 to 60fps, or wired to wireless, colour depth, image quality over performance and much more. It's the easier alternative that supports touch as well! Videos played on the tablet even synced with the audio just fine. If you're going that way wired is recommended but wifi is also usable! Spacedesk is lit
For people who want to use their second machine _but not_ another set of peripherals, and if most of your work is on your server machine, the *free* WiFi option is Barrier. Based on older builds of Synergy, after a little configuration so that all hostnames recognize each other, you can have a KVM that lets you use the same hardware, _everywhere_ so long all devices are on the same network.
Linus! You need to start advocating for Linux support with these kinds of things. Please, don't be complicit with the desktop extinction. Help bring what might be our only refuge into common acceptance. Many people put up with awful issues from Windows and macOS. So excluding Linux is a non starter. Please, even if it's at the end, start commenting on how you'd like to see official Linux support for things.
I am not even sure why the dongle is needed, everything it done by software? And someone mentioned there is software called Space desk that basically does this already for free.
I was doing this on my windows phone 4 years ago, and currently do this with my android phone on a laptop with broken screen, i didn't even have to drop a single dollar.
Saturday: Linus shows how Luna bypasses Apple limitations. Sunday: Apple buys Luna, and Apple's lawyers confiscate the owner's children. Monday: Luna no longer exists.
While reading the title I was like how the hell should I turn my desktop computer into a monitor. There's no chance my case can display images like magic. Now I get it, we're talking about laptops, tablets etc. oopsi. xD
didn't watch it further and put a thumb down when that became apparent though, also computers in my opinion don't have a screen at all, computers use external monitors. using word 'computers' for laptops is a #lienus tactics. can't care less about apple's walled garden crap, the only thing its actually good for if you aren't a half-brain-dead hipster - Louis Rossmann to repair it or rant about it.
5:28 - only took five and a half minutes for me to realize what this is actually for. idk if that's the video's fault or my own, or even a combination.
Good thing they removed that really bad for environment MUST-HAVE accessory for your phone from the box. Thank you for being so environmentally friendly Apple.
I’ve never thought about using astropad to resurrect an old iMac as a display. You can pick up some older model for super cheap that still have a banging screen which is ideal for layout work with indesign and such. Thanks Linus and team.
There is a windows version of Luna Display coming soon, and I think the main point was to hopefully convince people to stop throwing away perfectly useable hardware for shiny new hardware that creates more unnecessary E-waste. EDIT: Since some people still don't get why Linus hosted this. Because there exists a windows version of Luna display Linus was interested enough to host this product. It's as simple as that. Now the macadress guy previously did a video on a jerry rigged together touch screen macbook, the product can be used for both windows and Mac OS laptops but windows laptop already come with touch screens pre-installed so Linus would just end up roasting apple over that, and the idea isn't all that interesting. Instead he wanted an Apple users perspective on why they don't want a touch screen macbook. Due to changing their productivity flow or other reasons as to why they don't like 2 in 1 laptops. And why they'd rather have a Mac and an iPad separately.
@@rehmanarshad1848 >a windows version of Luna Display AFAIK still requires iPad, so still is a crap. though Idc enough about Apple-oriented crap to check. if any company's main focus is to make stuff for isheep its basically means that stuff is automatically overpriced and stupid in a way
I've once had a PC long time ago but because of situation and uses its not used anymore, and me and my family prefers laptop instead. One day, early class of my college, I felt overwhelmed with all the things I need to open at once to do some work. Then I realize my old 2006 LG monitor from my PC is still stored somewhere. So I found it, bought VGA to HDMI adaptor, and voila, my assignment and classes are way more manageable.
Why aren't we talking about it? I spent basically a day watching my favorite tech RUclipsrs but none of them have addressed the hulking issue of chip shortage. They're aware and have mentioned it of course, but this is a once in a generation phenomenon and most of the tech media seems oblivious... Happy to push the products of their agenda, though they know those products will be out of reach in the near future. I work in the supply chain and I know for a fact that anything that is marketed in 2021 well not deliver in time.
Apple consistently proves it is the parent that bakes cookies, puts them on a plate in front of children and then denies them even a taste citing “why? Because I said so!”
You can. There's kits online that come with converter boards. Strip out the iMac, solder the board in, add power source, boom. HDMI monitor. Its a bit of a project but its possible.
Big Props to Luna for resisting Apple’s Sherlocking of them and doubling down on their specialized advantages! Seems like a really thought-out product doing a challenging thing.
You can use every tablet/mobile phone with an app as secondary screen very easily... even the touch functions!! only needed thing is that both maschine must be in the same LAN/WLAN
My brothers has a capture card for his laptop witch allows him to turn his laptop and monitor setup into a 2 laptop and monitor setup, with all screens working perfectly with each other, and even pass files between the computers with ease.
I expected this video was going to talk about donating an old PC to charity or reusing it for a server (both worthy causes), ended up exceeding expectations! Well done LTT!
Fans of the Apple Ecosystem: "Hooray! We now have an overly-complicated/-inefficient/-inconvenient solution to a problem which shouldn't exist in the first place!" Sheep gonna sheep.
Last time I checked, you could only use parsec _from_ Windows. Can you use if for a secondary display? I thought it was just for sharing the current display (at current resolution).
That is for mirroring single display that already exists. For example my PC monitor is showing the samething that is being streamed via parsec to my TV. This is for streaming an secondary monitor so my PC monitor will be showing monitor 1 and tv will be showing monitor 2. Monitor 2 doesn't physically exist on the PC it is connected virtually and streamed over to the TV.
I rewatched the first three minutes three times before i figured out what this thing actually is and that i hadnt actually missed any explanation of what it does. There wasnt much explanation of what the dongle is at all before making comparisons to sidecar which i also didnt know was a thing either.
@@theigpugamer Some distros are quite close to Windows in the general feel, going so far to even imitate how parts of the UI are organized. But for an old computer something light is never wrong. And yes, grab a quad core xeon from ebay, throw in a decent gpu and ssd and more ram, and you got something that is still usable today. But might not be worth it, all depends on how much you want to invest.
@@HappyBeezerStudios yeah that's the point At that price I can easily get a used optiplex level pc with a 4th Gen i5 The only reason I still left it instead of selling it or recycling was that it has a motherboard made by intel and it's super reliable and great so I will need to see out for deals on xeons Put in a new ssd for the os and put another stick of DDR3 and with some Linux magic it should be usable for daily office work and general use
as someone who sells all in ones currently, a lot of HPs all in ones do support turning it into a monitor, and its just a regular hdmi input and an input change.
It's an interesting dilemma, on one hand you keep old macs from becoming waste, but, on the other hand, now you are running a motherboard, cpu, gpu(potentially), etc to have a monitor. I would be curious to see how much power is being wasted vs having a regular monitor
If you’re just using it for a monitor, I don’t really see the point when you can get a purpose built monitor for far less than the $110 they want for the dongle
if you got an old Mac Book step1 paint blue step2 go to a river or the sea step3 take the Fac book and throw it into the body of water you choose ! step4 go buy anything else
What's the purpose of painting it blue? Anyway, considering the hazardous chemicals used in electronics manufacturing process you would be polluting the environment from the chemicals leaching into the water.
@@TheKuptis it's a joke dude we see the ocean blue so painted blue that way you don't see it when you throw it in . Old joke an old tech RUclipsr use to say when he review product that wasn't worth money (maybe I'm wrong about the youtuber but I remember it from there)
Interesting video - thanks for letting us know about Luna. I purchased iDisplay for my iPad (1st Generation) back in 2011 (99 cents!) - it allows your iPad to act as a second (or third, or fourth) monitor. I now use TeamViewer, which is free when trying to control PCs on your home network (I control my Windows and Linux computers...I don't have any Macintosh computers)...doesn't have the ability to serve as a secondary display, but great when you need to connect into a PC that doesn't allow connection to it via RDP (example: Linux machines without xRDP installed or Windows Home).
i really appreciate you guys are now using that youtube feature to split the timeline into helpful segments on more videos
adds to a level of professionalism LTT brings to the table
Finally a way to skip the sponsor
I second this. I know it's a lot of extra work but it really goes a long way and is really appreciated
If only they used this on the wan show
Helps to skip the ads
"My time has come to be validated"
-me who hasn't thrown away or sold a computer in at least 15 years.
Same here, i just keep them in a different room. I just revived my old sempron 3300+ system last week to see if it still lived after having it for over 20 years. Its honestly impressive how long can pc hardware last, even if it sat for majority of its life.
3 years old gaming laptop, still cost me a fortune
My computer is 15 years old...
My laptop is 10 years old...
I still have my first PC, a Compuadd 286/16, and like others that have responded, I give them away once refurbished.
I have a 2010 Mac Pro 5.1
“Breathe life into your old computer” uses a 2-3 year old 1000 dollar Mac LOL
Ikr lol
Haven't checked but pretty sure my old MacBook Pro will be way too old for this, and it was the highest speced model back in the day and still works fine. I even turn it on on occasion when I need to get an old file off of Logic Pro X or Final Cut. (Switched the the Windows Adobe suite since then)
to be fair, the title I think is more about the windows version when it is released. till then, you're right lol
@@datachu to be fair my old razer blade was similar pricing to the MacBooks from 4 years ago and it’s actually still chugging along. I think once you buy a laptop over a thousand dollars the stereotype of cheap windows laptops drops off a cliff. Even less nowadays with the ryzen laptops at 600-700.
@@smugler1 true, I have it running on a 10 year old Sony vaio, although the 1366x768 resolution isn’t that good with my 2 4K monitors, latency is nice.
@@smugler1 Why is the separate hardware dongle needed for the Windows version anyway tho? Like, what does it do? And why can't they just update the firmware of whatever the fuck you just paid $100+ for?
No seriously, what snake oil is ACTUALLY INSIDE THE DONGLE? I can't find a single photo or video of the inside, no one has asked this question and there's no FAQ question on their site about it whatsoever.
I mean look at this video closer. In wired mode the cable goes directly between the two PCs, not through some port on the dongle? And how come Apple can achieve half the latency without any dongles? Why is the claimed latency on their website not even remotely accurate and the actual latency LTT measured around the same as Miracast (which also supports touch)?
Does this not all smell a little fishy in the air? Cause I'm smelling a scam right now... And it's a real strong stench too
That's my illustration at 6:40 😁 and now over 800k people have seen it - Thanks Linus!
Sick
You've been paid in E X P O S U R E have you eaten yet?
It's great man!
"Fix your old and slow computer"
"In this case Macbook air"
Typical Linux.
MacOS isn't Linux though.
Autocorrect?
Every MacBook air except for the M1 powered ones are crap performance wise so he ain't wrong.
how is macbook air 2018 slow.
Well it is kinda shit compared to what it cost when it came out (as per usual with all Apple products).
I've still got a 2009 27inch iMac that I use as a second display. the heaviest monitor ever but still works really well.
@@TonyCarragan-oc9nq it’s called target display mode. You need to use DisplayPort to Mini DisplayPort. Turn Mac on and press command and f2 on apple keyboard
Its not like it matters how heavy your monitor is.
You obviously haven't seen my first monitor from the 1990s. The box recommended a two man lift for it.
@@richarddcrossley I wished that this would work with my old imac, which still has snow leopard on it. My Biggest problem is that the onboard graphic chip got burned, while being in sleeping mode. The official repair would have costed around 600€+. As a result i can't really boot into the OS and display anything. The only solution i can think of is to take it apart and connect a display control unit to it.
@@vuhdoo7486 ah Same problem
The original title was “DON’T Junk your Outdated Computer!”
Fax i didnt watch it then
linus changes his title at least 5 times a day ive seen his recent vids change title so often
@@alexrevna7959 called a youtube channel not a company
@@alexrevna7959 LTT is just one channel of their company and they can decide video titles. They just use those clickbait titles in the beginning so it shows up that way in the notifications of subscribed people, then, after some time, they change back to the "real" title.
@@Felixprogram Its actually to stay afloat on the algorithm
ipad: Duet Display
Windows: Mouse Without Borders, Project To This PC, or SpaceDesk. You can na also buy Elgato clones.
Android: SpaceDesk
Yeah I just commented, what about duet display lol.
I used Duet Display back in the day myself, it was pretty good for the time but these days I use SpaceDesk and Parsec. Both have great performance and consistency, and pretty low latency.
LTT themselves did a video on using Parsec for video editing!
I feel sorry for anyone who actually bought into this *obvious* Luna display scam.
For arting though, duet display is pain
The lag is almost unbearable....
For Android Superdisplay is awesome app for anyone who want to use their stylus as almost native pen input in windows. It literally tricks the windows into thinking into having pen input inbuilt to the display itself. Which makes pen input and gestures in windows almost native experience
RIP the people who junked their computers before seeing this
use linux
RIP
LOL
Rest in pizza 🍕
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"Turn your Outdated Computer into a Montior!"
Ah yes. Monsieur Montior - We've been expecting you.
I like that Linus is promoting the importance of recycling.
I love that he repeatedly calls out Apple and their abusive attempts to crush other people’s efforts to recycle/reuse Apple products.
"Turn your Outdated Computer into a Montior!". What's a Montior?
Hahahaha also saw it
I was asking myself the same thing.
A montior is something which monties, of course.
@@electronics-girl What, the full monties
A monitor is a student in school belonging to a class who is in direct command of that's class teacher.
You know when Linus says something he’s not capping, I’d better get my vintage windows 90 computer out of the trash.
Windows 90? Don't you mean 95 or 98 right?
@@staz3014 Fuck Windows 9x
All my homies run Windows 3.0
Hey a 486 is becoming more expensive every day. Nostalgia's a bitch.
I'm expecting a million comments about Linux.
One for each distro
@ik ur cool There's no need to post your spammy inspirational video here. By the way, there is no Allah. Or any other magical beings, grow up. No Santa either, sorry.
Yes, your outdated iMac turns into a $10000 wireless display
Such upgrade
as opposed to throwing it in the trash yes
For 130 dollars, I’d rather just get a second display instead of repurposing an old Mac. They have decent resell value too, so unless the gadget’s 50 dollars or less, or it works on broken macs with functional displays, I don’t find this at all useful.
Exactly what I said
Except glossy display monitors are hard to find. iMacs are one of the few that still make quality, glossy monitors in a number of sizes.
@@roguenify I don’t think there’s much of a point having glossy displays, they just reflect sunlight and show how dirty they are much better. If a new mac came out, and had matte or glossy displays as an option, 9/10 would choose the matte display because it’s just better.
@@milkyy4168 Glossy displays offer more vibrant colors and picture quality, hence why TVs, tablets, and smartphones are glossy, not matte. In terms of picture/video quality, glossy wins.
Sunlight reflection isn't a problem for me based on the lighting in my home, so I don't benefit from a matte display. Matte displays are beneficial for office workers, but less-so for at-home workers.
@@roguenify Bro how many decades old are your phones, TVs, laptops, PC monitor, etc?
So you have a dongle, that is not really needed, cause everything is in software.
And its using pretty much a technology that Linux had since introduction of x11 in 1987.
And it costs a lot.
Am I missing something?
It's for Apple so it's obligated to be expensive.
No, as far as I know you're not missing anything. You can download the app for free from astropad's website and use an ipad as a secondary display with no dongle. It supports both mac and pc, and works like a graphics tablet with an apple pencil. I've been using it for a while. I don't really know what the dongle is for, since apparently there is still a lot of latency as Linus shows.
To be fair, x11 over the network is really slow and not designed for modern GTK/Qt apps (and fundementally works a lot differently than this, since its rendering using the remote GPU and just streaming video). Wayland doesnt support it at all, but you can probably achieve something similar using PipeWire
@@Virginiafox21 The dedicated dongle makes sense if you want to take the laptop/tablet combo and use it elsewhere. Its the sort of niche product that makes sense in its niche, but then the marketers try and sell it as a solution to all problems.
Kyle K yeah, I guess if you really want to be wireless. But the app works plugged in too. The only one I saw was having an iPad as the only display for a Mac mini, which seems like it could be cool.
Good thing it has USB C for old hardware
@@tim3172 type in "USB C female"
@@SinanAkkoyun hes being sarcastic lmao
I've been using Luna Display since the beginning to use my iPad as a client monitor or for the stylists to work off of on set, and it's freaking AMAZING. Super stable for me, and the range is only limited by your network. Works fantastic on location. Do recommend, have 4 of their adapters.
I'd love to see a comparison with Parsec on Mac/Windows, with their "lower latency" and "suitable for gaming" claims it should be a solid competitor to this product.
Linus: "Apple makes me so angry sometimes"
Apple: "Linus makes us so angry all the time"
Apple:sucks
Apple makes linus angry so linus can make us all angry about apple even though most of us have nothing to do with the brand
They don't give a hot damn. A trillion dollars just... blinds you.
@@matekovacs2696 they have trillion dollars by making you buy different devices running different OS and Apps with same processor, all designed and artificially limited by same company. If MacBook gets touchscreen, it eats into their Tablet sales and if iPad gets desktop features, then it eats into their laptop sales.
You know what Linus isn’t lying about? How almost everyone has an outdated computer.
I have 13 year old desktop 🤣
Speak for yourself
@@douglasrichardson1589 Douglas Most Definitely has it like that!! believe dat!!!
10 years old pc which was outdated when built.
@@windowsxpprofessional jeez that branded new compared to mine ive had it since 2002
People will be kicking themselves in few weeks if they miss the opportunity to buy and invest in #Bitcoin, #Ethereum and #Dogecoin as it's retracing
investing in crypto now is the only big chance of making money..
I wanted to trade crypto but got confused by the fluctuations in price
@@karrenanthony6327 That won't bother you if you trade with a professional like Expert Williams Peterson.. My first Investment of $3000 Mr Williams on forex has earned me profits of over $24,320 within 15days
I heard that his strategies are really good
Yeah
reporter: what inspired you to include free software with your OS but limit its functionality to specific hardware?
Apple: Hello, I like money.
this is honestly really cool because as you said it combats the anti consumerist nature of companies nowadays. it’s so exhausting to see more and more features getting taken away from us and us having to accept it so the ability to fight back is great
There is an entire software implementation called spacedesk. No dongle needed
It’s all fun and games until you see a video of a user using Windows 95 to run Valorant and Crysis.
Valorant and crysis are 2 very different games
Technically still fun and games :P well maybe not so much fun...
@great day What is this "uff" word they say I shouldn't say to my parents? Is it like a slur for old people? I don't care about any of the other nonsense, just "uff".
Honestly old iMac displays, especially the 1080p displays and even the pre-retina ones, are still totally usable, good looking displays!
are we just going to ignore how pricey LTT underwear is
Like apple products
@@dscarmo I dunno man, the M1 MacBooks prices are really compelling for what they offer.
Yep. I would never buy it.
"don't junk your old computer"
thumbnail: linus holding up a usb
me: linux!
also me:......there's no way he's referring to linux
He did that already.
@@HappyBeezerStudios i know :p
Spacedesk: i want to introduce myself as free software
This was literally all I was thinking about this whole video
Yup. My only complaint with spacedesk is that it doesn't support gpu acceleration so you'll need a beefy CPU if you want to do more than browse the web while using it.
Neat Never heard of it before but I could have some uses for it. How is the lag? Like could you watch a movie or play a game from the secondary device?
@@Catsrules1 For me its pretty much perfect! I used to run it on a Tab S6 on wifi and it really felt smooth without any drops (my wifi is real stable), you can adjust the framerate from 30 to 60fps, or wired to wireless, colour depth, image quality over performance and much more. It's the easier alternative that supports touch as well! Videos played on the tablet even synced with the audio just fine. If you're going that way wired is recommended but wifi is also usable! Spacedesk is lit
@@ngwoo i use the spacedesk monitor (my old laptopl to watch videos from RUclips and Plex while browsing on the main monitor, works great
RIP for the ones that thougth it was going to be linux mint xfce iso on that little pendrive
"Take an old or slow computer"
"in this case a *m a c b o o k a i r* "
Linus: use Luna for old pc
Me: use Linux!
Apple is typically pita on Mac
@@shapshooter7769
McWrap, BigBurrito or Fillet-O-Taco?
Ah so this is the video they filmed before WWDC
I don't know who needs to hear this but stop saving all your money, invest some of it if you really want financial freedom
@@William_Wadsworth Dear, this is 2021. People who aren't even trader still make money from the crypto and forex market
I just looked him up on Google, turns out he's registered under the SEC.
His platform is an international company where he helps people trade and pays them their profit on a weekly basis. It's very beneficial
How can I reach out to him pls.
@@petertaylor8377 Thanks so much, am placing my trade with Mr Oscar Anderson ASAP
One of the Macs I’m still using daily is 2008 vintage, left on 24 hrs a day and still working as if it just came out of the box for the first time.
pleb 2008 isnt vintage ............ ihave a imac 2006 right next to me
For people who want to use their second machine _but not_ another set of peripherals, and if most of your work is on your server machine, the *free* WiFi option is Barrier. Based on older builds of Synergy, after a little configuration so that all hostnames recognize each other, you can have a KVM that lets you use the same hardware, _everywhere_ so long all devices are on the same network.
Linus! You need to start advocating for Linux support with these kinds of things.
Please, don't be complicit with the desktop extinction. Help bring what might be our only refuge into common acceptance.
Many people put up with awful issues from Windows and macOS. So excluding Linux is a non starter.
Please, even if it's at the end, start commenting on how you'd like to see official Linux support for things.
Not to mention Target Disk mode for macs ;) I kinda want that sometimes.
Thank you so much for this video, I have an old Macbook and I was able to put it to good use after this
@AR Ram same
Meanwhile, Linux users using a complete OS and apps installed on their 4gb USBs be like
Hah, my live stick can boot Linux and Windows, depending on what I need.
@@HappyBeezerStudios Ha... Well mine has 50GB of different isos on it ("ventoy" is a nice piece of software for this)... Also sorry for my weird flex.
And be able to load the entire operating system on RAM and using it from there
We couldn't care less
@@silverturtle6511 Ventoy didn't work on my Mid-2010 MacBook Pro, but the LMDE iso loaded directly to the USB stick did.
...So A 10 minute ad for a display dongle.
I am not even sure why the dongle is needed, everything it done by software? And someone mentioned there is software called Space desk that basically does this already for free.
I was doing this on my windows phone 4 years ago, and currently do this with my android phone on a laptop with broken screen, i didn't even have to drop a single dollar.
Funny thing the computer in the thumbnail could be an up-to-date model lmao
Saturday: Linus shows how Luna bypasses Apple limitations.
Sunday: Apple buys Luna, and Apple's lawyers confiscate the owner's children.
Monday: Luna no longer exists.
I smiled when you started talking right to repair.
Keep on pushing and we'll be there soon.
I was expecting a new linux tutorial with that title and I am still a little confused after watching the video unless it was supposed to be a joke.
I had no idea what he was babbling about was using words not associated with a real Computer
While reading the title I was like how the hell should I turn my desktop computer into a monitor. There's no chance my case can display images like magic. Now I get it, we're talking about laptops, tablets etc. oopsi. xD
We all know this would lose half the views when the title would be "mac" instead of computer
Truee. To be fair it did state it is come for windows and is already available for pre order.
@@Pedroebut But still requires an iPad and not an Android device.
didn't watch it further and put a thumb down when that became apparent though, also computers in my opinion don't have a screen at all, computers use external monitors.
using word 'computers' for laptops is a #lienus tactics. can't care less about apple's walled garden crap, the only thing its actually good for if you aren't a half-brain-dead hipster - Louis Rossmann to repair it or rant about it.
What is a computer? /s
@@jstan5802 I'll do you one better... Why is a computer?
"and get this"
youtube: this is the perfect time for a... popup ad
Get premium
ha.. you dont have.. premium.. haha... hahahahaha
Apple: You want to use our product and features without an Apple Pencil? Away with you! You filthy peasant
Yep. Forgot to mention that also kick your puppy,
Turn your old Linus into a puppet that reads any sponsored message you put in front of him!
5:28 - only took five and a half minutes for me to realize what this is actually for. idk if that's the video's fault or my own, or even a combination.
It looks like they forgot to include an intro where linus explains what that thing does. Probably an editing mistake.
Video's fault. Horrible script.
Good thing they removed that really bad for environment MUST-HAVE accessory for your phone from the box. Thank you for being so environmentally friendly Apple.
I’ve never thought about using astropad to resurrect an old iMac as a display. You can pick up some older model for super cheap that still have a banging screen which is ideal for layout work with indesign and such. Thanks Linus and team.
Apple is a hardware company. I wish it were surprising that their solution to most limitations is 'buy more, and more expensive, hardware'.
I can't believe Linus is redpilled now
The macadress dude could've presented that one, would've been a good PR
better yet that should be on a mac address crap channel
@@rawdez_ This!
There is a windows version of Luna Display coming soon, and I think the main point was to hopefully convince people to stop throwing away perfectly useable hardware for shiny new hardware that creates more unnecessary E-waste.
EDIT: Since some people still don't get why Linus hosted this. Because there exists a windows version of Luna display Linus was interested enough to host this product. It's as simple as that.
Now the macadress guy previously did a video on a jerry rigged together touch screen macbook, the product can be used for both windows and Mac OS laptops but windows laptop already come with touch screens pre-installed so Linus would just end up roasting apple over that, and the idea isn't all that interesting.
Instead he wanted an Apple users perspective on why they don't want a touch screen macbook. Due to changing their productivity flow or other reasons as to why they don't like 2 in 1 laptops. And why they'd rather have a Mac and an iPad separately.
@@rehmanarshad1848 100% agree. The product was the connector, not the macs. But since the Mac was a good example, the mac guy was a good fit
@@rehmanarshad1848 >a windows version of Luna Display
AFAIK still requires iPad, so still is a crap. though Idc enough about Apple-oriented crap to check.
if any company's main focus is to make stuff for isheep its basically means that stuff is automatically overpriced and stupid in a way
This is a really nice idea. Course another alternative is to get a broken iMac that has a working panel and get a kit online and have a play.
I've once had a PC long time ago but because of situation and uses its not used anymore, and me and my family prefers laptop instead. One day, early class of my college, I felt overwhelmed with all the things I need to open at once to do some work. Then I realize my old 2006 LG monitor from my PC is still stored somewhere. So I found it, bought VGA to HDMI adaptor, and voila, my assignment and classes are way more manageable.
I like the little "how long until apple issues a c&d"
Who the heck is in charge of the video titles
Why aren't we talking about it? I spent basically a day watching my favorite tech RUclipsrs but none of them have addressed the hulking issue of chip shortage. They're aware and have mentioned it of course, but this is a once in a generation phenomenon and most of the tech media seems oblivious... Happy to push the products of their agenda, though they know those products will be out of reach in the near future. I work in the supply chain and I know for a fact that anything that is marketed in 2021 well not deliver in time.
Apple consistently proves it is the parent that bakes cookies, puts them on a plate in front of children and then denies them even a taste citing “why? Because I said so!”
I kinda already did, sorry Linus...
Hello
This is going to be a checkmark moment
Why?
No you didn't your bedrock
Whats up checkmark
should have installed bedrock linux smh
(/s don't do that if you've new to linux, get ubuntu, fedora or opensuse)
This was made obsolete at WWDC with the new continuity.
Bad thing is only M1 devices support that feature... sadly most new Monterey features are blocked for Intel Macs :(
You mean Continuity or AirPlay to Mac?
@@RatchetLive incorrect
AirPlay to Mac is supported with any computer with a T2 or later.
@@RatchetLive Intel macs support that feature aswell
I just want to use my iMac as a screen for my PC. Why is this so hard to do?
You can. There's kits online that come with converter boards. Strip out the iMac, solder the board in, add power source, boom. HDMI monitor. Its a bit of a project but its possible.
@@willm5032 that's too much work and I'm not going to tear up my 2020 iMac. There needs to be some kind of software solution with a USB-HDMI dongle.
@@djp1234 Oh yeah no way would it be worth it for a 2020 iMac. If you've got some 2011 one lying around then its worth it
Big Props to Luna for resisting Apple’s Sherlocking of them and doubling down on their specialized advantages! Seems like a really thought-out product doing a challenging thing.
You can use every tablet/mobile phone with an app as secondary screen very easily... even the touch functions!! only needed thing is that both maschine must be in the same LAN/WLAN
That first line is definitely getting clipped onto memes lol, linus dropping redpills
For real though I would take the red pill.
Curiosity!
My brothers has a capture card for his laptop witch allows him to turn his laptop and monitor setup into a 2 laptop and monitor setup, with all screens working perfectly with each other, and even pass files between the computers with ease.
I expected this video was going to talk about donating an old PC to charity or reusing it for a server (both worthy causes), ended up exceeding expectations! Well done LTT!
Linus: ~ Just like our Spons--
Me: ➡➡➡
*segway goes boom*
*LTT intro starts*
Me: *vibing*
@Firebuster whats that never heard of it
I've been doing this for so long, even worse I tap out 10sec everytime they mention ltt store through the vid.
@Firebuster how do they know that?
@Firebuster oh ok thanks
Fans of the Apple Ecosystem: "Hooray! We now have an overly-complicated/-inefficient/-inconvenient solution to a problem which shouldn't exist in the first place!"
Sheep gonna sheep.
you are the only one who said that
Oh, Linus! Stop getting upset with Apple for deliberately hobbling hardware and disabling sensible features!
Don't you know you're doing it wrong?
I sent you a meme
Lemme check my monitor
*running down stairs*
Where are you going?
To my fridge
Why it’s my new monitor
just install linux on an old Mac pc and have everything up to date
Should be doable. Switching from Unix to Linux was the original purpose.
@@HappyBeezerStudios I have done it on the wifes old IMac 27 inch.
Runs Elementary OS 6 (Beta) fine
Only thing is the Macs with the damned T2 chip.
A Mac pc!? I need one!
@@Enstrayed thats right. any Mac from about 2016 onwards could be a pain to install with Linux. not sure if it has been done though
just use parsec, It's infinitely better than using a proprietary device.
Last time I checked, you could only use parsec _from_ Windows.
Can you use if for a secondary display? I thought it was just for sharing the current display (at current resolution).
I use parsec all the time
Spacedesk also works
Meanwhile I uses Steam Link
That is for mirroring single display that already exists. For example my PC monitor is showing the samething that is being streamed via parsec to my TV.
This is for streaming an secondary monitor so my PC monitor will be showing monitor 1 and tv will be showing monitor 2. Monitor 2 doesn't physically exist on the PC it is connected virtually and streamed over to the TV.
Nice! Luna Display is Amazing. I did a series of videos covering this and people really seem to love it. 👍💪
Linus: Do not throw away old computers.
TuhlTeimDE, that guy who has any computer released in the last 40 years: 👀
I rewatched the first three minutes three times before i figured out what this thing actually is and that i hadnt actually missed any explanation of what it does.
There wasnt much explanation of what the dongle is at all before making comparisons to sidecar which i also didnt know was a thing either.
A remote control dongle.
@@HappyBeezerStudios now the title has been updated it makes alot more sense
The day I felt I should recycle my old core 2 duo and gt 210
This video came out what a timing
use linux try installing something like manjaro xfce or lubuntu if you wanna go rlly lightweight
@@someonehere4380 I wanted to try linux but my dad is so used to windows 7 that I haven't given it a shot yet
Upgrade to a core 2 quad, and a gt 220.
@@theigpugamer Some distros are quite close to Windows in the general feel, going so far to even imitate how parts of the UI are organized. But for an old computer something light is never wrong.
And yes, grab a quad core xeon from ebay, throw in a decent gpu and ssd and more ram, and you got something that is still usable today. But might not be worth it, all depends on how much you want to invest.
@@HappyBeezerStudios yeah that's the point
At that price I can easily get a used optiplex level pc with a 4th Gen i5
The only reason I still left it instead of selling it or recycling was that it has a motherboard made by intel and it's super reliable and great so I will need to see out for deals on xeons
Put in a new ssd for the os and put another stick of DDR3 and with some Linux magic it should be usable for daily office work and general use
Luna! Come and play!
Luna's here, what do ya say?
Luna, bright as day!
_SHOW US THE WORLD, LEAD THE WAY!_
Linus : puts red usb into mackbook
5 seconds later
Linus :"Im in"
As soon as the second Linus popped up I got my hopes it was a VAG drop, lol
Same here....
Apple: "We'll just take care of this thank you, can't have ppl not buying brand new every other year can we."
as someone who sells all in ones currently, a lot of HPs all in ones do support turning it into a monitor, and its just a regular hdmi input and an input change.
It's an interesting dilemma, on one hand you keep old macs from becoming waste, but, on the other hand, now you are running a motherboard, cpu, gpu(potentially), etc to have a monitor. I would be curious to see how much power is being wasted vs having a regular monitor
Linus: creates Mac channel
Also Linus: Posts Mac content to LTT
Mac Address isn't a mac channel, it's an Apple-centric channel. This is a more technical look at a third party device which doesn't fit in with MA.
How does this breathe new life into old computers? I was expecting making old slow computers fast again with some lightweight software
* linux enters the chat
There are plenty of viruses that can help you with that
If you’re just using it for a monitor, I don’t really see the point when you can get a purpose built monitor for far less than the $110 they want for the dongle
Desktop PCs: I'm gonna stop you right there
Wait. Windows has a "Use other computer as a monitor" feature?
How have I not heard of this??
It's been there for a while, but as Linus said it is kinda laggy. Works in a pinch but I wouldn't recommend regular use
Its sucks really bad, quality isnt good and its laggy
@@Andrew-se9be In a pinch can still make it useful.
Anyone know what it's called for easier searching?
There are also 3rd party tools like onput director, mouse without borders or sharemouse that do the same.
@@mokubakaiba1751 do you use windows?
Would love a detailed review from your design/art team vs existing display tablets like Wacom.
Considering its latency this thing is almost unusable for an artist
@@daniil2815 Astropad's main market are artists though
2:27 THAT SCREEN IS FLEXINN
Loving the Unibrow look. The Geico caveman would be proud.
if you got an old Mac Book
step1 paint blue
step2 go to a river or the sea
step3 take the Fac book and throw it into the body of water you choose !
step4 go buy anything else
What's the purpose of painting it blue? Anyway, considering the hazardous chemicals used in electronics manufacturing process you would be polluting the environment from the chemicals leaching into the water.
@@TheKuptis it's a joke dude we see the ocean blue so painted blue that way you don't see it when you throw it in . Old joke an old tech RUclipsr use to say when he review product that wasn't worth money (maybe I'm wrong about the youtuber but I remember it from there)
I like how the same product is more expensive for Mac users.
dumber people tend to pay more
*laughs from pc master race at mac's 'disposable' computing.
Interesting video - thanks for letting us know about Luna.
I purchased iDisplay for my iPad (1st Generation) back in 2011 (99 cents!) - it allows your iPad to act as a second (or third, or fourth) monitor. I now use TeamViewer, which is free when trying to control PCs on your home network (I control my Windows and Linux computers...I don't have any Macintosh computers)...doesn't have the ability to serve as a secondary display, but great when you need to connect into a PC that doesn't allow connection to it via RDP (example: Linux machines without xRDP installed or Windows Home).