What do you think of this project? Too much work or is it worth the savings? Also, if you enjoyed the content consider checking out my new merchandise store: crowdmade.com/collections/lukemiani. EDIT: For everyone asking: you can’t convert the speakers to USB because they don’t have a DAC, that’s handled on the board. It would require a lot more wiring and electrical work to get them over USB or 3.5mm
I’ve been digging these DIY videos you’ve been doing lately really interesting how u can jigsaw other Apple devices & parts to make improvements on newer ones save some money thank u & keep them coming 😎🤙🏻🍎🖥💻
I loved it! I have basically the same iMac. However, in my situation the guts are good, but the screen's toast. I'd love to see a video of you making an external Mac in a DIY case with the guts you just took out of the iMac housing in this video. :-)
Luke, I hope you see this: I've literally just finished doing this project myself. I have some feedback, some advice to anyone reading this who is also considering doing it and some comments in general. First of all this video had me triggered from day one, I had to do it. I was dying for a Studio display though it's way out of my budget (so was this but I made it happen). Some advice to those considering this: Commit and be patient. Bought the donor 2015 iMac, replaced HDD with SSD, liked the now pretty capable iMac though it was never an option to use daily so committed to project. Ordered conversion board, long delivery time and I already had the iMac for about a month debating wether or not to do the project. Conversion board arrived with a nasty import tax bill of about 33%. From iMac purchase to completed project about 10 weeks. Do not think that Luna Display will suffice. I tried, it didn't. If taking it on, commit to it and don't let it live in your head rent free as it did for me. When the time comes to do the work. Clear your calendar and your workspace. The build process looks simple in this video but it's not. Be patient though. Parts used: The camera module doesn't include a mic so order one at the same time as camera module should you be planning to use the display with MacBook in clamshell mode. The DP to USB C connection will not work via a dongle/dock. I had a vision of one cable to/from Mac and all I/O being handled by the dock. It doesn't work so accept that before you start. I was half way through the job when I ran into some problems with my repair hardware not fit for the job - the extension for embedded screw in logic board to be precise. BUY THE IFIXIT TOOL KIT! Cost: Donor iMac - £400 Conversion board: £217 Mic, Camera, USB extension for camera and 12v power supply: £55 Total: 672 Saving of £828 compared to Studio Display - with obvious sacrifices but IMO a great display for the money. Hopefully I'll recoup some of that selling keyboard, mouse and any internals I can. Feedback: I loved the content and love my new display. Push the fact that these jobs aren't as easy as they sometimes seem and I know you do mention so already in the video but emphasise the benefit of the fixit toolkit. It's too late for me now but in future, I will be buying one.
Hey we both did it!! Honestly it feels very worth it and might be a good way to flip 4k on a budget... although the imac form factor in itself feels limiting. I did the 21 inch and regret it a little/ Did you wire the back with the extra buttons out or take the button board out
Kevin, thanks for your detailed reply. Good for me as I'm in UK too. Seeing the cost I wouldn't try it myself. The Luna Display device seemed great but at £140 or so expensive too. I've seen them much cheaper used though. I wondered what your problems with this were?
August 18, 2024 post. With the aid of this great video (and a few other popular sites discussing this exact modification), I successfully converted my 2015 27in iMac computer into a 27in 5k external monitor this week. It’s great that my mac computer “sees” the monitor as a 5k monitor as seen in the “display” section in the settings. Note that I needed to remove 2 recessed screws to release the motherboard, so you’ll need an extended screw driver to reach those two screws (there is a hole in the motherboard above the screws). Luckily, my tool kit had an extender for my star bit. Also, connecting the backlit cable on the controller board to the screen backlit wasn’t clear as to which ends connected (left-side or right-side)? Luckily, I guessed the correct orientation because when I powered it on, it looked fine. Removing the screen, with the correct tool, was very easy! Bottom line is this video is a gem! And I would think most people can complete this project successfully if they take their time and proceed step by step in a careful manner. The monitor resealed perfectly with new adhesive strips. I did skip adding a camera. Took me 4 weeks, including the 2 week wait, for the controller board to arrive. One week to disassemble, 2 week wait for motherboard, one week to assemble. I took my time taking it apart, took my time rebuilding it so I avoided any mistakes or frustration.
I considered that! it would look very cool, but the problem is the glass is fused to the panel so it wouldn't be able to fit behind the Thunderbolt Display's glass
My old job had one of these early super slow 5K iMacs. It was an amazing display held back by lackluster hardware and this would be a great way of gving it life for years to come.
Following the purchase of my MacBook Pro M1, I failed to sell my old iMac(27" Late 2015) , when I came across this video it seemed like a great idea, I purchased the controller from aliexpress, waited for it to arrive, and... Yesterday I opened the iMac, dissected it from all the internals, replace them with the controller and voila!, I am writing this comment on a MacBook Pro using a home made Studio Display. The controller I ordered, has a USB-C input that has PD, so I do not to to use the power bric supplied with my MacBook. Now I have to sale the guts of the old iMac. Great video, keep on the great work!!!
same here. I did use a 2017 27"iMac. Did the first test run also with an aliexpress USB-C board. Model u49. test run worked fine. I will do do the final glueing next weekend. I have already sold the old logicboard and the RAM.
I'm also converting a 2017 27" Imac. Could you link me to the board you purchased from Ali? I'm seeing a ton of options and would love to get a proven unit that you've had success with. Thanks!@@smartandee1
I am planning to buy a 16" M3 max for photo and video editing. This seems to be a great DIY project as I would need an external monitor for it. May I ask, how are the colours and black levels after the Mod...are they accurate?
Like Miani is the best Apple channel on RUclips hands down. Today I decided I wanted to watch all the videos I hadn’t.. every one of them had the red bar on bottom lol. You may be the only channel with hundreds of videos where I’ve watched them all. Any that center around upgrading older machines, repairs, or entry level new systems are my favorite. Obviously I’d love to have a MacBook Pro but way out of my budget.
Hi Luke! Thanks a million for the tutorial. By coincidence my late 2015 5K iMac died a couple of weeks after first seeing this video. I order the board and I've just converted it over and now back up and running. Really delighted with the results! Great to be able to save and get more life out of the 5K Panel.
@@viktorbass Hiya. Soooo I started using the display with a 2017 MBP and found it kept dropping the DP connection along with giving me different settings, not knowing what the monitor was and so on. I switched to using HDMI and ran at 4K without any connection issues and colors/sharpness were good but no Display P3 setting. I've just started using it with a new M2 Mini Pro using the DP connection and it's amazing. Full 5K res 60 hertz, recognises it as an 'iMac 5K' along with P3 choice in settings. It didn't like my MBP, but using with the Mini has really made it worth saving and converting the iMac display. It doesn't support brightness control from the keyboard, but I can do that from the back on the monitor and rarely touch it anyhow. It does however fully support Nightshift as it knows its still a Mac Display.
@@barrybillionaire That sounds great! Did you experience any brightness loss after the conversion? I read some reviews telling about it. (maybe the board's power supply is not beefy enough)
@@viktorbass No loss of brightness to date. I did use a 12V 6Amp power brick (one I got separately on Amazon), so I think the extra amps could be the trick. The board supplier does recommend up to 7amps.
Love this. Crazy to dispose of an entire iMac when you can do something like this. The webcam is chef's kiss. Would love to see speakers accounted for, too.
I'm genuinely impressed. Really incredible what you're explored and achieved here. I don't need a monitor right now, but part of me wants to mimic this video just for the challenge and reward!
The small tech channel M3tech did this a few months before Luke, and the solutions are so similar that I think there's no way he didn't see that video first. I think Luke does very valuable work, but he should credit small channels when he gets ideas from them. It's kind of sad seeing that the original video has less than 10k views while Luke has more than 20x that.
Can you please show me a link for the video?! I’ll like to similar project including even a raspberry or nvidia shield tv inside while also so serving the food speakers too.
This is great! I have a late 2015 iMac that came with i5 and 8GB/1TB fusion drive, but was upgraded to 32GB/2TB SSD last year. It still works great, but when it's too old and slow in a few years, I will most certainly try this conversion to use it as a monitor and webcam with a newer Mac (Mini or Studio). I'm pretty sure the Apple Certified repair center that added the SSD cleaned up the dust while they were in there.
Nice one, add some speakers to it in a future video! you might be able to hook some small amplifier boards to the original speakers. Also try using MONITOR CONTROL to control the brightness via CEC that would also be a nice creature comfort
I don’t know about this exact Converter Board, but in most cases there isn’t a need for a amplifier board, you can solder/connect the speakers direct to the board.
I'm looking at this as the likely afterlife for my high-end 2015 5K iMac, after years of service the computer is showing its age but the 5K display is still stunning. Absolutely fantastic!!!
Nice work! This is exactly like what I did with my 2013" iMac a few weeks back. In fact, I think I replied to one of your tweets with my progress on the project! I decided to skip the webcam, though I may go back and add it now that I've seen what you did with it. I also was dead set on getting the speakers to work, I've got a little amp in there as well as some passive crossovers, but I'm still trying to figure out how to eliminate a bit of noise. This is going inspire me to open it back up again (still held together with tape). If you want to see what I used for audio, I'll let you know if it works!
@@redyellow4014 Sorry for the delay! It's not done yet, still trying to troubleshoot a few things, but I posted my WIP on my twitter. Just search my username!
@@dfayne Sorry for the delay! It's not done yet, still trying to troubleshoot a few things, but I posted my WIP on my twitter. Just search my username!
Hey you have a spammer replying to messages on here. I just had a guy with your profile pic trying to have me message them on telegram. They are using your name with an underscore and only have 2 subscribers. Anyway I’m going to report it but thought you’d wanna know.
What a great project Luke. Well worth the time and effort. All you need now is a 3D printed snap in cover for that RAM access panel with cut outs for the monitor switches.
I have to say I’ve been watching almost every video you put on RUclips and every time I ask myself, why such an awesome channel hasn’t reached 1M subscribers yet. Then I realised I still haven’t subscribed to your channel… I hope other people would read this comment and subscribe! Your content is definitely worth it 💪🏽
Had that exact 27" iMac from late 2014 and traded it in for a M1 Max Mac Studio. The problem with my late 2014 iMac was the image retention problem that you mentioned. If you run a screen saver or a burn in protection video the image retention would be reduced but would eventually come back. You were lucky to get hold of a 2014 iMac that did not exhibit this issue. Also purchased the latest 2022 27" Studio Display and not regretting the purchase. Better video quality than my 2020 27" iMac.
I just found an a1 149 on ebay for $125. It's running el cap with the original fusion drive which I'm hoping means it has not very much run time. my late 2012 has had run in for awhile now.
Excellent project and great value-add. When the new Mac Studio Display came out I thought it was over-priced, and still do. But this is a beautiful solution. I’m skilled enough, and crazy enough to make a clear acrylic case for a 27” screen akin to Apple’s acrylic 14” monitor from 20 years ago.
Thanks for the idea! At work we use 5 2015 iMacs and trying to upgrade to Mac studios for the team. The hardest choice is finding a good dci-p3 monitor for a fair price and… I think it might actually be a great solution!
So glad you made this video. I bought a 2017 27” 5k a year ago with hopes that I could use it as a dedicated display down the road with a Mac mini. Maybe 5 years out.
The board that Luke is using does not have DP1.4 ports as he says. They are DP1.2 ports. DP1.2 does not support 5K with a single cable. So Luke is getting 4K not 5K as he's using one cable. He would need a 2nd DP1.2 and run dual cables to get 5K. You can actual see in his video the settings for the board are DP1.2 at 12:15. You can get a R1811 board that supports DP1.4 but it's $299 instead of $179. A single DP1.4 port will support 5K @ 60Hz.
I just finished building one of these this second. Thank you so much for this video and for motivating me to gather all of the parts. it works great! All in all I was able to get this down to a cost of ~$350 by snagging an incredible deal on an iMac.
This is so awesome. And add to the pro side that this is a great way to do something good for the environment, too. Great. Apple should offer this officially for every iMac 5k customer.
I love this project, personally think the 2012- iMacs are such sleek looking machines despite their age. People complain about chunky bezels but for a machine that is using effectively a 2009 design it's still a really sick looking machine. This is a nice way to keep this awesome design alive and I wanna try it at some point
Really cool. I would attempt to reincorporate the RAM door back. Perhaps drill a cutout and stick a rubber grommet in it, tying and running cables through it prior (did something like that in a vehicle, looked stock). Drill the bottom of the door to install rubber button extensions that would press the clickers on the PCB. But that's only if I'd want it perfect. Terrific project, Luke!
Apple needs to bring back target mode. As a college student, I feel very weird plugging in a cable to my school’s mac to use my MacBook Pro as an external p. wis apple made a way to connect a MacBook Pro to an iMac
that 2014 actually supports target mode. Not sure if the Studio does. I think destination target mode went away in 2015 on the iMac and the M1 probably nixed it on the source side.
@@myrealusername2193 yea, the PHYSICAL device doesn’t support tdm. But that’s only 1/2 the equation. The OS still supported it for quite awhile. Looks like the other machine needs to be 2019/Catalina or older.
We need people like you in this world. I will use my latest 2015 and spend the 1600 dls just to get the last 2024 Studio or Mac pro. Thank you so much.
This project is ingenious Luke. You’re really showing us that previous Apple products are not dead and forgotten; they can still be used in these days.
I was going to a project like this with a 2009 27" iMac. I got it for free with a missing GPU and thought this was the perfect project. But I later happened upon a used (working) replacement GPU, and decided to rebuild the machine and made a YT video about it. By my standards, a 2014 is still pretty new to cannibalize for a screen, haha. Great job though!
Great video. A few suggestions: 3d Print a bracket to hold the converter board and a panel to cover the cable out and buttons where the RAM door was. Also you can rewire the existing original camera to usb very easy without the need of any converter.
yes i would be interested in hearing about this too! I assume this would allow one to use use the built-in mic as well (a mic appears to be missing from the build in the current video)
my thought is just to carefully machine some access slots into the door.. but - Im thinking to use an mac mini housing applied to the outside of the iMac.
I really want to emphasize how important it is to be careful around that power supply, Once open the power supply is completely exposed and can be dangerous to touch for months after the unit has been unplugged. Thanks for the great video, I work in an electronics retailer and we have customers ask us all the time if they can use their iMacs as external screens? We have to say no because while luma screen exists it's not a plug and play solution like they want. Even though this might not be a solution for those random customers it's a great thing to know exists for those handy enough to do the work!
Awesome! I have that very same iMac in working condition. I’ve seen similar tutorials but this is the first one that gives me confidence I could pull it off 😅
I just bought the kit from ebay. And to think, I was days away from throwing away a 2015 iMac 27' with dead logic board! I heard about this before, wanted to do it, and now I will! Good bye old 2010-ish HD 21" monitor as my second display. Hello dual 27" 5k displays!! #Winning Thanks Luke! (despite your REALLY dodgy sponsor)
What a out of the box thing.... That's genius dude! Would Love to see more projects like this one.... And Yes! It's gonna make a talk in mainstream media...
I have two Late 2014 27" iMacs and I am going to take the plunge here. Thank you for this amazing video and the hope to breathe new life into these amazing old machines.
Luke! Just today, I was going to just get rid of my broken iMac. However, I happened across this brilliant video, thank you so much!!! Outstanding work Sir!
Wow, I'm an Apple Authorized technician so for me, a project like this is easy! The shop I work for also has plenty of dead 2014 iMac's laying around with working displays. This looks like a fun and easy way to put them to use!
Any chance you'd be able to ship some of these already converted to monitors to interested buyers...? I did see somewhere that certain imacs from 2009 to 2014 can be used as monitors through something called target display mode...
@@diceydaze I haven’t done any conversions yet, but I do have plenty of loose iMac screens from 2009 to 2011. The iMac’s after 2012 used a different type of display. And are much more expensive, I only have one 2014 display in stock as of now
I went ahead and took the gamble on a eBay non-functional unit. I’m hoping that the display arrives intact. It’s supposed to be able to power on, but iCloud locked. Couldn’t get any information on the condition of the screen. Would be awesome worst-case scenario if you had a 2014 or newer display on hand.
I love this project! My concern would be experiencing screen burn. My boss has this iMac and anything that stays on the screen too long gets burned on. It does kinda go away but comes back if you're on the same window or desktop background for too long
Yeah I have a Dell UP2715K and it does the same thing... I don't mind it that much since it *does* go away and it's not permanent burn-in (when temporary, it's called image retention) but it's still kind of annoying. I was kinda bummed the other day as I found a wallpaper I loved but couldn't use as it'd trigger my screen's image retention really badly.
Awesome project! I have just replaced this exact iMac (late 2014) with a Mac Studio and Studio Display. I would like to clarify one thing I believe you are wrong about, which is the difference between the two displays since p3 color is not the only difference. The 2014 iMac panel is a 400nit (500 in later versions) and the studio display is 600 nits.
I have a 2017 5K iMac that is 27 inches already and this provides me a pathway re-use that beautiful screen. The computer is 7 years old already and I plan to follow your instructions to get it ready to connect to a Mac Mini or Mac Studio. Thanks!
Fantastic project I'm considering taking on myself, to save a G. Couple questions: can you adjust brightness with the keyboard brightness up/down buttons? Do you think it needs an internal fan to keep it cool?
I'm actually doing this right now, but i ran into an issue. In the 2017 iMac, I have the USB C to DisplayPort 1.4 Cable (Luke's posted links) and tried to connect it to my iPad pro m1 and it did not display anything. Nor did the display work with my 2019 macbook pro either. It seems you need to connect 2 DP cables instead of 1. Trying to figure out which is the best product for this.
@@BUdJohnson242 I ran into the same issue. I'm not sure how Luke magically got 5k on a single display port cable. (I bought the same cable you did and it's going back to Amazon tomorrow) Customer support told me the same thing you need two DP ports to make it work... My workaround was to use an HDMI to USBC cable. I was able to get beyond the 1080p DisplayPort barrier but only at 30Hz. But I think that's more of a limitation of the cable. I've seen lots of 4K HDMI to USB-C cables (rated at 60Hz) advertised all over the interwebs.
Thank you providing the guide and the links. I really appreciate you providing an upcycling path for these iMacs. Before your video I had thought they were a regrettable waste of a good 5k display, and now I'm looking forward to building my own!
This is a really cool project - before the Studio Display was released I had done some research into something like it and the tinkerer in me still wouldn't mind giving it a go. The only thing that worries me is that for $800 (before you sell any left over components) you're getting an 8 year-old panel, it's hard to say how long it's got left. The panel in my Thunderbolt Display suddenly gave out on the 10 year mark, thankfully I could get a brand new LG panel for it for c.US$250 incl. shipping. A new 5K LG panel is around US$400 or more, if ever needed, then you're getting close to Studio Display money.
awesome. more projects like this, please. ive often wondered if this was possible1 to reuse an 2015 iMac as an external display .it is a huge shame apple does not allow new imacimacs to be switched to an external display for a MacBook and then switch back to internal use. could you build that ?
I bought one of these last year for $500 - i7, upgraded graphics, 500 GB SSD, and it's my daily driver on the desktop. The screen, speakers, videocam are all great. I would someday like to run it in some kind of Target Display Mode via Thunderbolt 2 using a network connection to see if the performance is reasonable.
Awesome. Maybe I missed in video, do the speakers still work? Definitely considering this, currently have a 2017 27" iMac which is running great but starting to show its age especially as start getting into video work. This method makes jumping to Studio box much more appealing and overall affordable. If can sell off the iMac's internals would be about a wash in overall expense. Any way to re-purpose the iMac's SSD? Thanks Luke!
I'd guess an external disk enclosure of some type - I have no experience with Apple computers made post-2009, but you should be able to get some kind of an external SSD enclosure for it.
@@fredhall3453 This comment has nothing to do with speakers. We are talking about the iMac's internal storage device and how it can be used as an external mass storage device.
Great project Luke. Good use for an old iMac that otherwise would be recycled. One question - what do you use for the 12v power supply that the conversion board needs? Look like you had something external but I could not really see it. Thanks for the excellent videos!
I have a 27 inch 2017 imac which the motherboard is broken. I've been thinking of replacing the motherboard to be able to use it again but this video has blown my mind that you can actually use the panel externally! Thank you Luke!
I was thinking about doing something similar with an iMac using it as a display for my MacBook Pro for home use but not sure yet. I may buy the studio Display for my MacBook Pro or even the new mac pro display. Not sure yet have to see after all the new mac hardware releases.
I've built three of these now over the last year and a half. For under $1,500 I've built three decent alternatives to the Apple Studio Display. Buying new from Apple would have cost over $5,200. Thanks Luke. You've saved me roughly $3,700 from just this video alone.
I'm running two of them through one CalDigit TS4 dock. Occasionally MacOS will forget which screen is which and I'll have to manually set their position. But I've had this issue before with standard monitors and other docks driving two displays. As far as issues with this mod specifically, no. Living the one cable dream. Attach one TB cable and get power, network, dual displays, and mouse and keyboard. I love it so much.@@AppIeOfficial
Hi Luke You should check out the video from Tips Tricks and More (German RUclipsr) He did the same thing but used the power button and the power connection from the original iMac
Cool ideas to further improve this: closure panel for the access part in he back & re-using he port cutouts in the back (XD card, USB, Ethernet ec.) by installing a Thunderbolt hub board.
Thanks Luke! Question: Do you think it's possible to do this install, but keep all of the iMac 5K internals and functionality intact? Would be great if the required hardware could sit outside of the iMac, and allow for a graphics cable switch to switch between the internal iMac and using as an external 5K display when needed.
This is fantastic! Thanks for sharing, I'd been considering paying a local computer repair shop to do this for me, wasn't sure how easy it would be or what I would need to bring them. You answered my question, thanks!
(Mine is 2017 iMac 27", so v excited to hear it is for all my practical purposes identical to the Studio Display, now going to be driven with my M1MacBook Air)
Is it possible to use an SSD to replace the HDD, then use that free space to install the conversion board and thus have it as dual purpose: as an old iMac and as stand alone Monitor? Even if it means that come cables and splitters would have to be outside the case. I understand it would be a much harder goal to accomplish, yet with a bit more functionality
I bet you could double side tape a couple of 2.5" ssd's to the inside, get a couple of sata to USB cables, then get usb extensions and run them to your mini or whatever and have your spare SSDs inside the display, which would be cool, but odd.
I think it is an authentic and interesting project, well worth the tinkering effort. I have since bought an ASUS proart display for around the $600 AUS dollar mark and it is a wonderful display, however it doesn't have a webcam built in so this makes this project extremely viable, not to mention the nice Apple esc logo and additional software benefits you get by having Apple native gear.
@@MMCLProductions the imac displays always have the glass, they are glued on and sold as a single unit. the lg ultrafine 5k uses the same panel without the glass and stuck inside a housing. model number is LG LM270QQ2
This is an unbelivably cool conversion! Question: Is there anything you can do with the standalone Logic board? Like turning it into it's own standalone PC using maybe similar adapters that the Display needed?
Luke, I just looked up the board you used and it has speak outputs on the board. It's a white 4 pin molex connector near the corner of the board by the mounting hole. You should try connecting the audio speakers of the iMac to them. then you would be complete.
I am thinking about putting the logic board and psu from the 2020 mac mini m1 inside and making it a 27”iMac replacement. I think I would have to include a usb hub inside too.
Brilliant job 👍🏻 I have a 21" iMac that I am inserting a Raspberry Pi into to make a full-hd tv, toying with the idea of putting Mac Mini internals in there too
Great project! You could throw the display and conversion board into an old Thunderbolt Display to bring that into the modern era. That would be interesting as well.
The nice thing about the thunderbolt display is that you can get an external adapter to use it as a modern monitor. You can do the same thing with the 2000's flatscreen Cinema aluminum-frame cinema displays. You might be able to do this with the older cinema displays too, I am pretty sure you can. :D
Very cool project and thanks for explaining where $600 came from in the title 😉 Something I can’t help but notice is that you’ve spent what is likely near the wholesale cost of a Studio Display. Another commenter mentioned starting a business doing this, but if you wanted to make any money at it you’d need to charge nearly what Apple does.
Great video! I noticed you're using dp1.4 cable though, and your board version R9A18 has 2 dp1.2 ports, which should provide only 4k max resolution via one dp1.2 port or 5k with 2 dp ports. Can you confirm that actual resolution you're getting on screen is 5k? There is another board R1811 with dp1.4 support which costs $275. Just wondering if that's worth it or whether your version works with no issues.
Gleb, did you determine anything about this? Did Luke answer elsewhere? I would think it would've been obvious to Luke if the display was only showing 4K instead of 5... DP1.2 is indeed limited to 4K, but if you look at 11:50, the mouse is hovering over the middle/default resolution, and to the left it says "iMac 5K". I'd really like to know if I need to spend the extra $95 with my projects as well.
@@fhturner3 I'd rather stick with other sources on this subject which give tech details and say the solution provided in the video should give 4k max, otherwise you'll have to buy 2 cards instead of one
The controller board you order, that matches (is designed for) your original 5k monitor part#, is a 5K controller board. And my mac sees it as a 5k display, and it looks 5k to me when compared to my Apple Studio Display. I did this Luke Miani conversion and got a perfect result!
this is hella cool. would love to see a pt2 where you can get the og speakers to work and maybe some kind of mic instead of having to use an external one (not sure if the pi cam came with one or not)
Really appreciate your innovative thinking for reusing and adapting older tech that still has life. Wish I’d seen this 2 weeks ago, I just got a Thunderbolt Display to go with my MBP 2015 15”. It was $200, a late production 2015, mint in the box, and does fine with media content and color is great - video, movies, and photography - but lacks the sharpness with text especially if you get closer that normal viewing distance. Cheaper than the iMac solution here, but has me thinking if the 5k would have been the better choice?
If one day the panel fails, like it did with my Thunderbolt Display, you can still somehow fit in a lg ultrafine 5k Display into the enclosure of it! Note that the Thunderbolt Display features a magnetic glass lid, so you won’t even have to perfectly fit in the ultrafine displaly…!
I think I'm gonna have to keep this in mind for down the line, whenever I decide to replace my current 5K iMac (the latest/last generation purchased last year). Smart way to repurpose perfectly good tech!
You glossed over everything mysterious about this project. You showed time lapse take apart and dust removal and almost nothing about choosing the adapter board and wiring the adapter board.
yes a customer of mine bought this for me to put together for him and the vertical sync connector is impossible to connect, the main LED connector looks different, and sourcing a power supply was near impossible, still in pieces!
Luke mentioned in this video that 5K is through displayport and 4K through HDMI. could you technically run a PS5 through the hdmi port? (@4k?) because that would be awesome (being able to switch between macbook and PS5)
@@BattleDroid0402 Appreciate it. I assumed so, since it is just a HDMI port, but wanted to know if someone else did something similar. Thanks for letting me know :)
Thank you so much for this video! I bought a 5k iMac in 2015 thinking there would be lots of 5k monitors around by now, and I'm just going to turn it into a monitor for my gaming PC.
Excellent video. I have an old iMac sitting in my garage and I've been wanting to use it as an extra display, but I'm not a handy person at all. However, with this video I plan to give it a shot. 🤞
I just did this myself with my "old" iMac from 2017 and it works flawlessly. Two things i did additionally was to connect the power supply to the imac to use the original cable and 2nd i connected the original imac button to the remote control in order to turn on the display via that one. One Issue I faced is that because the imac is much lighter now, the chin rises by it self sometimes. Thats why i put some useless things into the body to get some weight.
@@aman681 yes I am getting the full 5K 60Hz. As for color accuracy I had play around a little. I had a very small violett tint, which I eventually was able to correct. Most people wouldn’t have recognised tho, but I am very strict on color.
@@helios007 Thanks for your reply mate. Yeah, I am planning to use it for photo and video editing so colour accuracy and deep blacks really mean a lot.
Freakin' brilliant. I'd love to see this done to the original 27" LED Cinema Display, but that would be pretty tricky I imagine. Those have the most gorgeous chassis Apple ever made.
Luke, i take my hat to you! This is actually an amazing solution. Only thing i will do will be a 3d printed panel to go in the hole where the cables come out at the back
What do you think of this project? Too much work or is it worth the savings? Also, if you enjoyed the content consider checking out my new merchandise store: crowdmade.com/collections/lukemiani. EDIT: For everyone asking: you can’t convert the speakers to USB because they don’t have a DAC, that’s handled on the board. It would require a lot more wiring and electrical work to get them over USB or 3.5mm
I’ve been digging these DIY videos you’ve been doing lately really interesting how u can jigsaw other Apple devices & parts to make improvements on newer ones save some money thank u & keep them coming 😎🤙🏻🍎🖥💻
Do you still have speaker functionality? Is the Imac power switch functional?
I loved it! I have basically the same iMac. However, in my situation the guts are good, but the screen's toast. I'd love to see a video of you making an external Mac in a DIY case with the guts you just took out of the iMac housing in this video. :-)
why didn't you try to hook up the stock speakers, that's not even hard? Do they suck?
Someone could make a business out of selling these.
Luke, I hope you see this:
I've literally just finished doing this project myself. I have some feedback, some advice to anyone reading this who is also considering doing it and some comments in general.
First of all this video had me triggered from day one, I had to do it. I was dying for a Studio display though it's way out of my budget (so was this but I made it happen).
Some advice to those considering this:
Commit and be patient.
Bought the donor 2015 iMac, replaced HDD with SSD, liked the now pretty capable iMac though it was never an option to use daily so committed to project.
Ordered conversion board, long delivery time and I already had the iMac for about a month debating wether or not to do the project.
Conversion board arrived with a nasty import tax bill of about 33%.
From iMac purchase to completed project about 10 weeks.
Do not think that Luna Display will suffice. I tried, it didn't.
If taking it on, commit to it and don't let it live in your head rent free as it did for me.
When the time comes to do the work. Clear your calendar and your workspace. The build process looks simple in this video but it's not. Be patient though.
Parts used:
The camera module doesn't include a mic so order one at the same time as camera module should you be planning to use the display with MacBook in clamshell mode.
The DP to USB C connection will not work via a dongle/dock. I had a vision of one cable to/from Mac and all I/O being handled by the dock. It doesn't work so accept that before you start.
I was half way through the job when I ran into some problems with my repair hardware not fit for the job - the extension for embedded screw in logic board to be precise. BUY THE IFIXIT TOOL KIT!
Cost:
Donor iMac - £400
Conversion board: £217
Mic, Camera, USB extension for camera and 12v power supply: £55
Total: 672
Saving of £828 compared to Studio Display - with obvious sacrifices but IMO a great display for the money.
Hopefully I'll recoup some of that selling keyboard, mouse and any internals I can.
Feedback:
I loved the content and love my new display.
Push the fact that these jobs aren't as easy as they sometimes seem and I know you do mention so already in the video but emphasise the benefit of the fixit toolkit. It's too late for me now but in future, I will be buying one.
Hey we both did it!! Honestly it feels very worth it and might be a good way to flip 4k on a budget... although the imac form factor in itself feels limiting. I did the 21 inch and regret it a little/ Did you wire the back with the extra buttons out or take the button board out
Hi. Can you tell me precisely what camera and microphone you used? I've got everything else up and running. Thank you!
What about the speakers? Would we need to purchase external ones?
Kevin, thanks for your detailed reply. Good for me as I'm in UK too. Seeing the cost I wouldn't try it myself. The Luna Display device seemed great but at £140 or so expensive too. I've seen them much cheaper used though. I wondered what your problems with this were?
Can you amplify regarding the problems you experienced regarding Luna Display? Thanks so much!
August 18, 2024 post. With the aid of this great video (and a few other popular sites discussing this exact modification), I successfully converted my 2015 27in iMac computer into a 27in 5k external monitor this week. It’s great that my mac computer “sees” the monitor as a 5k monitor as seen in the “display” section in the settings. Note that I needed to remove 2 recessed screws to release the motherboard, so you’ll need an extended screw driver to reach those two screws (there is a hole in the motherboard above the screws). Luckily, my tool kit had an extender for my star bit. Also, connecting the backlit cable on the controller board to the screen backlit wasn’t clear as to which ends connected (left-side or right-side)? Luckily, I guessed the correct orientation because when I powered it on, it looked fine. Removing the screen, with the correct tool, was very easy! Bottom line is this video is a gem! And I would think most people can complete this project successfully if they take their time and proceed step by step in a careful manner. The monitor resealed perfectly with new adhesive strips. I did skip adding a camera. Took me 4 weeks, including the 2 week wait, for the controller board to arrive. One week to disassemble, 2 week wait for motherboard, one week to assemble. I took my time taking it apart, took my time rebuilding it so I avoided any mistakes or frustration.
Cool project. Combining this 5k panel with an old Cinema Display housing and cramming in an m1 macmini would be a next level.
Well thats looks like next project for Luke
for sure
Or cramming a mac mini into a studio display 🤯
I considered that! it would look very cool, but the problem is the glass is fused to the panel so it wouldn't be able to fit behind the Thunderbolt Display's glass
@@lukemiani even with the “Mini Mac Mini” that Snazzy Labs built?
My old job had one of these early super slow 5K iMacs. It was an amazing display held back by lackluster hardware and this would be a great way of gving it life for years to come.
This is actually incredibly awesome! This is a huge plus to keep these things out of landfills in the future
Yeah this is a great way to reuse old hardware.
so you keep stuff working by gutting the internals, and throwing them away?
@@mojave5661 he sold the internals to keep other computers working and out of landfills
@@shawndasilva I must've missed the part where he said that. my apologies
@@mojave5661 all good! He went over the resale value of the internals, I am guessing Luke has a “motherboard drawer”.
Following the purchase of my MacBook Pro M1, I failed to sell my old iMac(27" Late 2015) , when I came across this video it seemed like a great idea, I purchased the controller from aliexpress,
waited for it to arrive, and...
Yesterday I opened the iMac, dissected it from all the internals, replace them with the controller and voila!, I am writing this comment on a MacBook Pro using a home made Studio Display.
The controller I ordered, has a USB-C input that has PD, so I do not to to use the power bric supplied with my MacBook.
Now I have to sale the guts of the old iMac.
Great video, keep on the great work!!!
same here. I did use a 2017 27"iMac. Did the first test run also with an aliexpress USB-C board. Model u49. test run worked fine. I will do do the final glueing next weekend. I have already sold the old logicboard and the RAM.
I'm also converting a 2017 27" Imac. Could you link me to the board you purchased from Ali? I'm seeing a ton of options and would love to get a proven unit that you've had success with. Thanks!@@smartandee1
do you get 5K resolution with the usb-C?
I am planning to buy a 16" M3 max for photo and video editing. This seems to be a great DIY project as I would need an external monitor for it. May I ask, how are the colours and black levels after the Mod...are they accurate?
Would be nice if a company made a conversion board that had connections for the original speakers, webcam, and microphones.
You are stretching it😉
I would buy one !
They'd probably get sued by Apple :-/
And an Android LogicBoard.. Ahahah.. 😀
it wouldnt be nice.. it would be 499.99 from apple
Like Miani is the best Apple channel on RUclips hands down. Today I decided I wanted to watch all the videos I hadn’t.. every one of them had the red bar on bottom lol. You may be the only channel with hundreds of videos where I’ve watched them all.
Any that center around upgrading older machines, repairs, or entry level new systems are my favorite. Obviously I’d love to have a MacBook Pro but way out of my budget.
One of the most valuable DYI projects yet. Well done Luke!
Hi Luke! Thanks a million for the tutorial. By coincidence my late 2015 5K iMac died a couple of weeks after first seeing this video. I order the board and I've just converted it over and now back up and running. Really delighted with the results! Great to be able to save and get more life out of the 5K Panel.
did you have to tweak the colors or just worked? Can you adjust the brightness from the keyboard?
thx!!
@@viktorbass Hiya. Soooo I started using the display with a 2017 MBP and found it kept dropping the DP connection along with giving me different settings, not knowing what the monitor was and so on. I switched to using HDMI and ran at 4K without any connection issues and colors/sharpness were good but no Display P3 setting. I've just started using it with a new M2 Mini Pro using the DP connection and it's amazing. Full 5K res 60 hertz, recognises it as an 'iMac 5K' along with P3 choice in settings. It didn't like my MBP, but using with the Mini has really made it worth saving and converting the iMac display. It doesn't support brightness control from the keyboard, but I can do that from the back on the monitor and rarely touch it anyhow. It does however fully support Nightshift as it knows its still a Mac Display.
@@barrybillionaire That sounds great! Did you experience any brightness loss after the conversion? I read some reviews telling about it. (maybe the board's power supply is not beefy enough)
I am at a crossroads: upgrading the iMac or saving for a new m2 mac mini + using the iMac as a display (so I don't have to buy an LG 5K ex.)
@@viktorbass No loss of brightness to date. I did use a 12V 6Amp power brick (one I got separately on Amazon), so I think the extra amps could be the trick. The board supplier does recommend up to 7amps.
Love this. Crazy to dispose of an entire iMac when you can do something like this. The webcam is chef's kiss. Would love to see speakers accounted for, too.
I'm genuinely impressed. Really incredible what you're explored and achieved here. I don't need a monitor right now, but part of me wants to mimic this video just for the challenge and reward!
The small tech channel M3tech did this a few months before Luke, and the solutions are so similar that I think there's no way he didn't see that video first. I think Luke does very valuable work, but he should credit small channels when he gets ideas from them. It's kind of sad seeing that the original video has less than 10k views while Luke has more than 20x that.
I did this a few years back as well. I had a lot of fun adding an AppleTv to the mix.
Can you please show me a link for the video?! I’ll like to similar project including even a raspberry or nvidia shield tv inside while also so serving the food speakers too.
I literally have been trying to do this. I would LOVE to see how you’ve done it.
I literally have been trying to do this. I would LOVE to see how you’ve done it.
My problem was that I couldn't use the integrated speakers and all the stuff I got sounded meh.
This is great! I have a late 2015 iMac that came with i5 and 8GB/1TB fusion drive, but was upgraded to 32GB/2TB SSD last year. It still works great, but when it's too old and slow in a few years, I will most certainly try this conversion to use it as a monitor and webcam with a newer Mac (Mini or Studio). I'm pretty sure the Apple Certified repair center that added the SSD cleaned up the dust while they were in there.
Same for me and my 27” iMac! This was a super cool project that many will take advantage of!
Nice one, add some speakers to it in a future video! you might be able to hook some small amplifier boards to the original speakers.
Also try using MONITOR CONTROL to control the brightness via CEC that would also be a nice creature comfort
I don’t know about this exact Converter Board, but in most cases there isn’t a need for a amplifier board, you can solder/connect the speakers direct to the board.
@@fabianbinder3681 yep that conversion board does have a speaker amp onboard with a 4 pins connector to use
Yeah, I would have like to see the speakers reused.
I'm looking at this as the likely afterlife for my high-end 2015 5K iMac, after years of service the computer is showing its age but the 5K display is still stunning. Absolutely fantastic!!!
Nice work! This is exactly like what I did with my 2013" iMac a few weeks back. In fact, I think I replied to one of your tweets with my progress on the project! I decided to skip the webcam, though I may go back and add it now that I've seen what you did with it. I also was dead set on getting the speakers to work, I've got a little amp in there as well as some passive crossovers, but I'm still trying to figure out how to eliminate a bit of noise. This is going inspire me to open it back up again (still held together with tape). If you want to see what I used for audio, I'll let you know if it works!
I Would love to see what you did with the speakers!
I am in the middle of the conversion now and am curious to know how you got the speakers set up.
@@redyellow4014 Sorry for the delay! It's not done yet, still trying to troubleshoot a few things, but I posted my WIP on my twitter. Just search my username!
@@dfayne Sorry for the delay! It's not done yet, still trying to troubleshoot a few things, but I posted my WIP on my twitter. Just search my username!
@@kazoodac any news from your experiment with audio?
Hey you have a spammer replying to messages on here. I just had a guy with your profile pic trying to have me message them on telegram. They are using your name with an underscore and only have 2 subscribers. Anyway I’m going to report it but thought you’d wanna know.
What a great project Luke. Well worth the time and effort. All you need now is a 3D printed snap in cover for that RAM access panel with cut outs for the monitor switches.
I have to say I’ve been watching almost every video you put on RUclips and every time I ask myself, why such an awesome channel hasn’t reached 1M subscribers yet.
Then I realised I still haven’t subscribed to your channel… I hope other people would read this comment and subscribe! Your content is definitely worth it 💪🏽
I was thinking of EXACTLY this when the Studio Display was released haha
Had that exact 27" iMac from late 2014 and traded it in for a M1 Max Mac Studio. The problem with my late 2014 iMac was the image retention problem that you mentioned. If you run a screen saver or a burn in protection video the image retention would be reduced but would eventually come back. You were lucky to get hold of a 2014 iMac that did not exhibit this issue.
Also purchased the latest 2022 27" Studio Display and not regretting the purchase. Better video quality than my 2020 27" iMac.
I just found an a1 149 on ebay for $125. It's running el cap with the original fusion drive which I'm hoping means it has not very much run time. my late 2012 has had run in for awhile now.
Luke, feel free to come do this to my iMac. I will pay you in a sandwich.
you cheapo!!! lol. great we see you here!!!
Excellent project and great value-add. When the new Mac Studio Display came out I thought it was over-priced, and still do. But this is a beautiful solution. I’m skilled enough, and crazy enough to make a clear acrylic case for a 27” screen akin to Apple’s acrylic 14” monitor from 20 years ago.
Thanks for the idea! At work we use 5 2015 iMacs and trying to upgrade to Mac studios for the team. The hardest choice is finding a good dci-p3 monitor for a fair price and… I think it might actually be a great solution!
So glad you made this video. I bought a 2017 27” 5k a year ago with hopes that I could use it as a dedicated display down the road with a Mac mini. Maybe 5 years out.
The board that Luke is using does not have DP1.4 ports as he says. They are DP1.2 ports. DP1.2 does not support 5K with a single cable. So Luke is getting 4K not 5K as he's using one cable. He would need a 2nd DP1.2 and run dual cables to get 5K. You can actual see in his video the settings for the board are DP1.2 at 12:15. You can get a R1811 board that supports DP1.4 but it's $299 instead of $179. A single DP1.4 port will support 5K @ 60Hz.
Where do you get this board?
I just finished building one of these this second. Thank you so much for this video and for motivating me to gather all of the parts. it works great! All in all I was able to get this down to a cost of ~$350 by snagging an incredible deal on an iMac.
This is so awesome. And add to the pro side that this is a great way to do something good for the environment, too. Great. Apple should offer this officially for every iMac 5k customer.
I love this project, personally think the 2012- iMacs are such sleek looking machines despite their age. People complain about chunky bezels but for a machine that is using effectively a 2009 design it's still a really sick looking machine. This is a nice way to keep this awesome design alive and I wanna try it at some point
Yes, I would definitely do that! I think the frame and base from the iMac are timeless and look much much better than the Studio Display.
Really cool. I would attempt to reincorporate the RAM door back. Perhaps drill a cutout and stick a rubber grommet in it, tying and running cables through it prior (did something like that in a vehicle, looked stock). Drill the bottom of the door to install rubber button extensions that would press the clickers on the PCB. But that's only if I'd want it perfect. Terrific project, Luke!
Apple needs to bring back target mode. As a college student, I feel very weird plugging in a cable to my school’s mac to use my MacBook Pro as an external p. wis apple made a way to connect a MacBook Pro to an iMac
that 2014 actually supports target mode. Not sure if the Studio does. I think destination target mode went away in 2015 on the iMac and the M1 probably nixed it on the source side.
@@BretFX ever since the iMac 5k, it’s no longer been an option.
@@myrealusername2193 yea, the PHYSICAL device doesn’t support tdm. But that’s only 1/2 the equation. The OS still supported it for quite awhile. Looks like the other machine needs to be 2019/Catalina or older.
We need people like you in this world. I will use my latest 2015 and spend the 1600 dls just to get the last 2024 Studio or Mac pro. Thank you so much.
This project is ingenious Luke. You’re really showing us that previous Apple products are not dead and forgotten; they can still be used in these days.
I was going to a project like this with a 2009 27" iMac. I got it for free with a missing GPU and thought this was the perfect project. But I later happened upon a used (working) replacement GPU, and decided to rebuild the machine and made a YT video about it. By my standards, a 2014 is still pretty new to cannibalize for a screen, haha. Great job though!
Great video. A few suggestions:
3d Print a bracket to hold the converter board and a panel to cover the cable out and buttons where the RAM door was.
Also you can rewire the existing original camera to usb very easy without the need of any converter.
how can you rewire the original camera?
Interested to know how you’d rewire the original camera. Please do tell.
yes i would be interested in hearing about this too! I assume this would allow one to use use the built-in mic as well (a mic appears to be missing from the build in the current video)
my thought is just to carefully machine some access slots into the door.. but - Im thinking to use an mac mini housing applied to the outside of the iMac.
I really want to emphasize how important it is to be careful around that power supply, Once open the power supply is completely exposed and can be dangerous to touch for months after the unit has been unplugged. Thanks for the great video, I work in an electronics retailer and we have customers ask us all the time if they can use their iMacs as external screens? We have to say no because while luma screen exists it's not a plug and play solution like they want. Even though this might not be a solution for those random customers it's a great thing to know exists for those handy enough to do the work!
Awesome! I have that very same iMac in working condition. I’ve seen similar tutorials but this is the first one that gives me confidence I could pull it off 😅
I just bought the kit from ebay.
And to think, I was days away from throwing away a 2015 iMac 27' with dead logic board! I heard about this before, wanted to do it, and now I will!
Good bye old 2010-ish HD 21" monitor as my second display. Hello dual 27" 5k displays!! #Winning
Thanks Luke! (despite your REALLY dodgy sponsor)
You have a link to the ebay listing?
What a out of the box thing.... That's genius dude! Would Love to see more projects like this one....
And Yes! It's gonna make a talk in mainstream media...
I have two Late 2014 27" iMacs and I am going to take the plunge here. Thank you for this amazing video and the hope to breathe new life into these amazing old machines.
Great! Now let's do this with an iMac 27 5k and including the speakers as well! That would be awesome :)
Luke! Just today, I was going to just get rid of my broken iMac. However, I happened across this brilliant video, thank you so much!!! Outstanding work Sir!
Wow, I'm an Apple Authorized technician so for me, a project like this is easy! The shop I work for also has plenty of dead 2014 iMac's laying around with working displays. This looks like a fun and easy way to put them to use!
Any chance you'd be able to ship some of these already converted to monitors to interested buyers...? I did see somewhere that certain imacs from 2009 to 2014 can be used as monitors through something called target display mode...
@@diceydaze I haven’t done any conversions yet, but I do have plenty of loose iMac screens from 2009 to 2011. The iMac’s after 2012 used a different type of display. And are much more expensive, I only have one 2014 display in stock as of now
I went ahead and took the gamble on a eBay non-functional unit. I’m hoping that the display arrives intact. It’s supposed to be able to power on, but iCloud locked. Couldn’t get any information on the condition of the screen. Would be awesome worst-case scenario if you had a 2014 or newer display on hand.
@@diceydaze 2009-2014 imacs can be used as monitors through target display mode, but the 27 inch 5K retina 2014 iMac CANNOT. I have confirmed this.
@@this_is_NOT_a_test I guess that leaves no other choice than to dismantle it.
Repurposing is a better option than disposing of stuff 🎉earth needs more people like you
I love this project! My concern would be experiencing screen burn. My boss has this iMac and anything that stays on the screen too long gets burned on.
It does kinda go away but comes back if you're on the same window or desktop background for too long
Yeah I have a Dell UP2715K and it does the same thing... I don't mind it that much since it *does* go away and it's not permanent burn-in (when temporary, it's called image retention) but it's still kind of annoying. I was kinda bummed the other day as I found a wallpaper I loved but couldn't use as it'd trigger my screen's image retention really badly.
This is...a very tempting project to try.
Awesome project! I have just replaced this exact iMac (late 2014) with a Mac Studio and Studio Display.
I would like to clarify one thing I believe you are wrong about, which is the difference between the two displays since p3 color is not the only difference. The 2014 iMac panel is a 400nit (500 in later versions) and the studio display is 600 nits.
I have a 2017 5K iMac that is 27 inches already and this provides me a pathway re-use that beautiful screen. The computer is 7 years old already and I plan to follow your instructions to get it ready to connect to a Mac Mini or Mac Studio. Thanks!
Fantastic project I'm considering taking on myself, to save a G.
Couple questions: can you adjust brightness with the keyboard brightness up/down buttons? Do you think it needs an internal fan to keep it cool?
Oh man, I'm going to replace my 2017 iMac later this year and I can't wait to do this mod! Thank you SO much, Luke. Top notch content.
I'm actually doing this right now, but i ran into an issue. In the 2017 iMac, I have the USB C to DisplayPort 1.4 Cable (Luke's posted links) and tried to connect it to my iPad pro m1 and it did not display anything. Nor did the display work with my 2019 macbook pro either. It seems you need to connect 2 DP cables instead of 1. Trying to figure out which is the best product for this.
@@BUdJohnson242 I ran into the same issue. I'm not sure how Luke magically got 5k on a single display port cable. (I bought the same cable you did and it's going back to Amazon tomorrow) Customer support told me the same thing you need two DP ports to make it work... My workaround was to use an HDMI to USBC cable. I was able to get beyond the 1080p DisplayPort barrier but only at 30Hz. But I think that's more of a limitation of the cable. I've seen lots of 4K HDMI to USB-C cables (rated at 60Hz) advertised all over the interwebs.
Thank you providing the guide and the links. I really appreciate you providing an upcycling path for these iMacs. Before your video I had thought they were a regrettable waste of a good 5k display, and now I'm looking forward to building my own!
I was considering figuring out how to do something like this myself and now I can just watch a video instead. Thanks, Luke!
This is a really cool project - before the Studio Display was released I had done some research into something like it and the tinkerer in me still wouldn't mind giving it a go. The only thing that worries me is that for $800 (before you sell any left over components) you're getting an 8 year-old panel, it's hard to say how long it's got left. The panel in my Thunderbolt Display suddenly gave out on the 10 year mark, thankfully I could get a brand new LG panel for it for c.US$250 incl. shipping. A new 5K LG panel is around US$400 or more, if ever needed, then you're getting close to Studio Display money.
there are 2004 apple displays that still work so
@@topkek7003 We have 4 still-working (and still looking good) 20" and 23" displays here 👍
I have a few older imacs at work that have been retired. Only one is 5K, but converting them all to monitors sounds like a good project.
awesome. more projects like this, please. ive often wondered if this was possible1 to reuse an 2015 iMac as an external display .it is a huge shame apple does not allow new imacimacs to be switched to an external display for a MacBook and then switch back to internal use. could you build that ?
I bought one of these last year for $500 - i7, upgraded graphics, 500 GB SSD, and it's my daily driver on the desktop. The screen, speakers, videocam are all great. I would someday like to run it in some kind of Target Display Mode via Thunderbolt 2 using a network connection to see if the performance is reasonable.
Awesome. Maybe I missed in video, do the speakers still work? Definitely considering this, currently have a 2017 27" iMac which is running great but starting to show its age especially as start getting into video work. This method makes jumping to Studio box much more appealing and overall affordable. If can sell off the iMac's internals would be about a wash in overall expense. Any way to re-purpose the iMac's SSD? Thanks Luke!
I'd guess an external disk enclosure of some type - I have no experience with Apple computers made post-2009, but you should be able to get some kind of an external SSD enclosure for it.
OWC sells external USB enclosures for NVMe drives with Apples proprietary pin layout.
No - the speakers were removed.
@@fredhall3453 This comment has nothing to do with speakers. We are talking about the iMac's internal storage device and how it can be used as an external mass storage device.
@@tsuyunobradley4439 Did you miss his first sentence? That's what I was answering.
this is amazing. I have a 5k retina from 2015 collecting dust.. I can give it a second life now
Great project Luke. Good use for an old iMac that otherwise would be recycled. One question - what do you use for the 12v power supply that the conversion board needs? Look like you had something external but I could not really see it. Thanks for the excellent videos!
Any response on the power supply?
I have a 27 inch 2017 imac which the motherboard is broken. I've been thinking of replacing the motherboard to be able to use it again but this video has blown my mind that you can actually use the panel externally! Thank you Luke!
I was thinking about doing something similar with an iMac using it as a display for my MacBook Pro for home use but not sure yet. I may buy the studio Display for my MacBook Pro or even the new mac pro display. Not sure yet have to see after all the new mac hardware releases.
Definitely wait a few more months if you can, since it’s highly likely Apple will update Pro Display XDR for 2022
@@matejaem excactly, and then you will be able to get a pro Display 1.0 for probably much less then now…
this dude's channel deserves WAY more attention.
This is a fantastic idea. I would love to see it done with a 21” 4K iMac converted.
Ditto, this was my first thought too!
I've built three of these now over the last year and a half. For under $1,500 I've built three decent alternatives to the Apple Studio Display. Buying new from Apple would have cost over $5,200. Thanks Luke. You've saved me roughly $3,700 from just this video alone.
have u noticed any problems using it?
did you notice a change in image brightness and quality after switching?
I'm running two of them through one CalDigit TS4 dock. Occasionally MacOS will forget which screen is which and I'll have to manually set their position. But I've had this issue before with standard monitors and other docks driving two displays. As far as issues with this mod specifically, no. Living the one cable dream. Attach one TB cable and get power, network, dual displays, and mouse and keyboard. I love it so much.@@AppIeOfficial
Ahhhh this is the type of content I subscribed for
I'm watching this video again for fun on a converted 5k iMac/Monitor. Thanks for you video Luke!
Hi Luke
You should check out the video from Tips Tricks and More (German RUclipsr)
He did the same thing but used the power button and the power connection from the original iMac
Cool ideas to further improve this: closure panel for the access part in he back & re-using he port cutouts in the back (XD card, USB, Ethernet ec.) by installing a Thunderbolt hub board.
Thanks Luke! Question: Do you think it's possible to do this install, but keep all of the iMac 5K internals and functionality intact? Would be great if the required hardware could sit outside of the iMac, and allow for a graphics cable switch to switch between the internal iMac and using as an external 5K display when needed.
This is fantastic! Thanks for sharing, I'd been considering paying a local computer repair shop to do this for me, wasn't sure how easy it would be or what I would need to bring them. You answered my question, thanks!
(Mine is 2017 iMac 27", so v excited to hear it is for all my practical purposes identical to the Studio Display, now going to be driven with my M1MacBook Air)
Is it possible to use an SSD to replace the HDD, then use that free space to install the conversion board and thus have it as dual purpose: as an old iMac and as stand alone Monitor?
Even if it means that come cables and splitters would have to be outside the case.
I understand it would be a much harder goal to accomplish, yet with a bit more functionality
I bet you could double side tape a couple of 2.5" ssd's to the inside, get a couple of sata to USB cables, then get usb extensions and run them to your mini or whatever and have your spare SSDs inside the display, which would be cool, but odd.
I think it is an authentic and interesting project, well worth the tinkering effort. I have since bought an ASUS proart display for around the $600 AUS dollar mark and it is a wonderful display, however it doesn't have a webcam built in so this makes this project extremely viable, not to mention the nice Apple esc logo and additional software benefits you get by having Apple native gear.
That’s awesome! Now I’m thinking if the 5K display can be mounted inside a Thunderbolt Display chassis 🤔🤔
If you can find the display without the front glass already mounted it should work. Been looking for a 5K display for that exact reason
@@MMCLProductions the imac displays always have the glass, they are glued on and sold as a single unit. the lg ultrafine 5k uses the same panel without the glass and stuck inside a housing. model number is LG LM270QQ2
@@lilypadsy legend, do you think it’s doable to put it into a Thunderbolt Display?
I have a late 2015 iMac and have been looking to repurpose it into an external monitor for a Mac mini. Thanks for the tutorial.
This is an unbelivably cool conversion! Question: Is there anything you can do with the standalone Logic board? Like turning it into it's own standalone PC using maybe similar adapters that the Display needed?
Luke, I just looked up the board you used and it has speak outputs on the board. It's a white 4 pin molex connector near the corner of the board by the mounting hole. You should try connecting the audio speakers of the iMac to them. then you would be complete.
if someone tries this, please post an update - this would be awesome!
I am thinking about putting the logic board and psu from the 2020 mac mini m1 inside and making it a 27”iMac replacement. I think I would have to include a usb hub inside too.
I think your next project should be trying to fit the M1 Mac Mini gut into the 27" iMac.
I thought he already did this, or was it an Intel Mac Mini?
100% agree with this ☝️ A M1 is perfect because its so small
Brilliant job 👍🏻 I have a 21" iMac that I am inserting a Raspberry Pi into to make a full-hd tv, toying with the idea of putting Mac Mini internals in there too
Dude, this is awesome, for real. Congrats for such a high quality content, and keep this nice energy 👏👏👏
Great project! You could throw the display and conversion board into an old Thunderbolt Display to bring that into the modern era. That would be interesting as well.
The nice thing about the thunderbolt display is that you can get an external adapter to use it as a modern monitor. You can do the same thing with the 2000's flatscreen Cinema aluminum-frame cinema displays. You might be able to do this with the older cinema displays too, I am pretty sure you can. :D
really hoping this video doesnt end up inflating the cost of panels or driver boards more than they already have been :(
Always wanted to know how to frankenstein an iMac as an external display. Very helpful information!
Very cool project and thanks for explaining where $600 came from in the title 😉 Something I can’t help but notice is that you’ve spent what is likely near the wholesale cost of a Studio Display. Another commenter mentioned starting a business doing this, but if you wanted to make any money at it you’d need to charge nearly what Apple does.
Great video! I noticed you're using dp1.4 cable though, and your board version R9A18 has 2 dp1.2 ports, which should provide only 4k max resolution via one dp1.2 port or 5k with 2 dp ports. Can you confirm that actual resolution you're getting on screen is 5k? There is another board R1811 with dp1.4 support which costs $275. Just wondering if that's worth it or whether your version works with no issues.
Thanks for auto-reply, check out my question though :)
@@gleeeb that’s a bot lol
Gleb, did you determine anything about this? Did Luke answer elsewhere? I would think it would've been obvious to Luke if the display was only showing 4K instead of 5... DP1.2 is indeed limited to 4K, but if you look at 11:50, the mouse is hovering over the middle/default resolution, and to the left it says "iMac 5K". I'd really like to know if I need to spend the extra $95 with my projects as well.
@@fhturner3 I'd rather stick with other sources on this subject which give tech details and say the solution provided in the video should give 4k max, otherwise you'll have to buy 2 cards instead of one
The controller board you order, that matches (is designed for) your original 5k monitor part#, is a 5K controller board. And my mac sees it as a 5k display, and it looks 5k to me when compared to my Apple Studio Display. I did this Luke Miani conversion and got a perfect result!
this is hella cool. would love to see a pt2 where you can get the og speakers to work and maybe some kind of mic instead of having to use an external one (not sure if the pi cam came with one or not)
Really appreciate your innovative thinking for reusing and adapting older tech that still has life. Wish I’d seen this 2 weeks ago, I just got a Thunderbolt Display to go with my MBP 2015 15”. It was $200, a late production 2015, mint in the box, and does fine with media content and color is great - video, movies, and photography - but lacks the sharpness with text especially if you get closer that normal viewing distance. Cheaper than the iMac solution here, but has me thinking if the 5k would have been the better choice?
If one day the panel fails, like it did with my Thunderbolt Display, you can still somehow fit in a lg ultrafine 5k Display into the enclosure of it!
Note that the Thunderbolt Display features a magnetic glass lid, so you won’t even have to perfectly fit in the ultrafine displaly…!
I think I'm gonna have to keep this in mind for down the line, whenever I decide to replace my current 5K iMac (the latest/last generation purchased last year). Smart way to repurpose perfectly good tech!
You glossed over everything mysterious about this project. You showed time lapse take apart and dust removal and almost nothing about choosing the adapter board and wiring the adapter board.
yes a customer of mine bought this for me to put together for him and the vertical sync connector is impossible to connect, the main LED connector looks different, and sourcing a power supply was near impossible, still in pieces!
Hollllllld on…. This is EPIC !! I’m
Trying to create a mobile studio set up and this may have just saved me a small fortune !!! You legend !
Luke mentioned in this video that 5K is through displayport and 4K through HDMI.
could you technically run a PS5 through the hdmi port? (@4k?) because that would be awesome (being able to switch between macbook and PS5)
So long as it's HDMI 2.0 18Gbps on the conversion board, it would probably work at 60Hz.
I believe so. There is a RUclipsr who ran his PS4 Pro at 4k 60hz iirc with the 2017 panel.
@@BattleDroid0402 Appreciate it. I assumed so, since it is just a HDMI port, but wanted to know if someone else did something similar. Thanks for letting me know :)
Thank you so much for this video! I bought a 5k iMac in 2015 thinking there would be lots of 5k monitors around by now, and I'm just going to turn it into a monitor for my gaming PC.
Excellent video. I have an old iMac sitting in my garage and I've been wanting to use it as an extra display, but I'm not a handy person at all. However, with this video I plan to give it a shot. 🤞
I just did this myself with my "old" iMac from 2017 and it works flawlessly. Two things i did additionally was to connect the power supply to the imac to use the original cable and 2nd i connected the original imac button to the remote control in order to turn on the display via that one. One Issue I faced is that because the imac is much lighter now, the chin rises by it self sometimes. Thats why i put some useless things into the body to get some weight.
Hi. I'm curious to know precisely what camera and microphone you used? I've got everything else up and running. Cheers!!
@@vizcode-vd1es greetings! I use non since i use my macbook parallel and thus dont need them in the mac. Its a monitor only for me.
How's the colour accuracy and are you getting 5K resolution ? Thanks.
@@aman681 yes I am getting the full 5K 60Hz. As for color accuracy I had play around a little. I had a very small violett tint, which I eventually was able to correct. Most people wouldn’t have recognised tho, but I am very strict on color.
@@helios007 Thanks for your reply mate. Yeah, I am planning to use it for photo and video editing so colour accuracy and deep blacks really mean a lot.
Freakin' brilliant. I'd love to see this done to the original 27" LED Cinema Display, but that would be pretty tricky I imagine. Those have the most gorgeous chassis Apple ever made.
Luke, you are the Garand Thumb of the computer world, and I love it
Luke, i take my hat to you! This is actually an amazing solution. Only thing i will do will be a 3d printed panel to go in the hole where the cables come out at the back
What happens with thermals on the screen? Since you no longer have a fan that runs air to it.