Dude slavery was the norm throughout ALL of history. The rules in the Old Testament clarified rules for slavery that gave them rights. If one tribe or culture decimated another in war, it was humane to take the women and children as slaves as opposed to leave them to starve when you have just killed all their workers and farmers.
// "dude slavery was the norm throughout all history" // Lol SO WHAT ?? gathering sticks _"was the norm"_ also but that did not allegedly prevent your "God" from forbidding it on the Sabbath upon pain of death did it dear 😜 "Murder" _"was the norm"_ as was "theft" yet God once again forbid them. But when it came to slavery not only did God not forbid it but he told them specifically where and how to aquire them 🤮
@@FredrickDouglass69 // "rules for slavery that gave them rights" // Lol this reasoning is akin to a slave master from Alabama saying that his slavery was "better" than that in Mississippi because his slaves had lemon tea every Friday. 🤭😅🤣
// "If one tribe or culture decimated another in war it was humane to take the women and children as slaves" // We clearly have different perceptions of the word _"humane"_ dear ( shakes head in disgust ) presumably you think after the American civil war the North should have taken all the women and children as slaves ?? 🙄 Maybe you think that they should have killed all the women who had _"known a man"_ along with all the male children and spared only the adolescent females with an intact hymen and just shared them amongst the victorious soldiers as per biblical instructions ?? 🤮
We are not critacizing _"ancient people"_ dear but rather the biblical laws endorsing slavery that alledgedly represent the profound wisdom of a perfect omnibenevolent omnipotent omniscient loving God 🤮
Jesus never said slave away in a church for eternal life, that slave god that churches use to grow their own business is nothing to do with Jesus even though they pretend it's him. Noone and no church can ever ressurect you from the grave, Gospel Revolution Church, Slidell lGreg Henry also Bertie Brits dynamic love ministries ❤
Sin simply means not believing in God's truth unto life, our carnal fallen mindset believes we're all separated from our heavenly father when it's our thinking we can have life in and of ourselves that separate us from our beautiful heavenly father 🎉
Slavery was taking place all over the world regardless of religion or culture. It was the Brits who worked hard to ban slavery first in England but then saved many slaves from the ships. And generally persuaded other countries to give up slavery. It took time and many lives but was relatively successful.
“My people suffer for a lack of knowledge” Firstly the number 7 represents completion! 8 represents new beginnings You would think that someone would at least look up why slaves had to be released every 7yrs!
You didn't leave Christianity. As You were in a phony church to begin with. Obeying the gospel of Jesus Christ, Acts 2 38, John 3:5-8, is where you start
I would ask which religion is the most toxic. Which one discriminates Which one is racist. Which one is the most shovinist .... Also religion vs royals .. Also how religions are used by politicians/corporations to devide us. George Carlin is my king
@@MrElectricdude with your logic we should burn all the biology books. That would be crime. We went through this period once. It is called MIDDLE AGES.
MODERN DAY SLAVERY is here the law in Iran for instance is the marriage age now changed to 9yrs old so i have been informed Yes Love heals ☘🌿🍀🍃☘🌿🍀🍃🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻
Believing teachings from thousands of years ago from people who just wanted to make money from dumb people who believe this story they wrote is just foolish. After you die will be the same as before you were born, remember the feeling from before you were born that's what it'll be like after
@@onca6270 well there's no such thing as souls and demons etc. But with the way capitalism ruins the climate and environment, humans are definitely going to make the world a lot nastier if we don't change our economic ways.
This man I must pray for him because when you take your last breath you will be transported to the father that you served whilst on earth! Hell is no joke please think about what you are saying! 🙏🏽😔
Church rules have absolutely nothing to do with Jesus coming to ressurect us from death to life in fact absolutely nothing in this universe can ever give us Gods life why do you think Jesus came and left death in the grave coming up with our Father's beautiful eternal life 🎉
Justin , you say that your sister was a devoted christian, & she died shortly after having her baby. Tell you what's gonna happen, on the day of judgment she'll be spending eternity with Jesus Christ. Take a good guess where you think you'll be spending eternity??? You better go and repent & live for Jesus! As for TJ, you find it funny. On that DAY, you gonna be verrrrry sorry if you don't repent! Just because you don't believe anymore, doesn't mean that it's not TRUE. God word is TRUE! No one can fathom GOD! I pray that you you all will have a personal relationship with Jesus. I couldn't watch all of this rubbish. It's so sad hearing you talking like this.
What you have to remember is slavery was ambiguous from the beginning of time thoughout the world it was common place but with Christian morals and values ended . William the conquer outlawed it in 1068 and the church denouced it in 1102 and through time it was only the Christian nations tried to ended it worldwide
Lol most of the Christian western world engaged on it for over 200 years dear 🤭😅 indeed in the Americas half the Christian population valued it so much they fought a civil war trying to maintain it 🤮
Hey i just wanted to tell you about jesus Christian or not and that he died for our sins becoming our savoir, and loves you. He is the way to heaven and wants to have a relationship with you, and help you though life and to have faith in him because thought faith our we saved john-3:16
Moral properties such as responsibility are supervenient on actions and attributes of moral agents, and cannot be transferred between them. As such vicarious redemption ( *scapegoating* ) could never and should never be regarded as either logical or moral. The idea of sin, or morality however you define it, being a tradeable commodity is at odds with how I define morality. Particularly when it involves the suffering of an innocent. I am responsible for my good and bad actions. My bad deeds can't be "taken" any more than my good nor should they.
It’s wild to me that black and Latino and Asian people (among others) are so hardcore in their Christian and Catholic beliefs today when those religions were forced upon their ancestors. People were literally threatened or manipulated into dumping their centuries old beliefs for Jesus. I’m like why are you so into Jesus? Don’t know your great great great relatives believed something else? You wouldn’t worship your old slave master so why would you worship his god?
Slavery was around for centuries before white European went to Africa and South America. The Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, Ottoman, etc all nations/empires had slavery including countries in Africa, South America and Asia. Unfortunately the human race was barbaric back then and throughout the whole of history. All religious scriptures and books were written centuries ago and references to events that were relevant to the people of that time. As the human race has evolved and learn compassion, love, understanding, remorse, etc and we can take the principles of the stories and relevant them to modern times
everyone was in slavery, and God sent Moses to free his people, the jews and Fun fact Jesus known as the king of the Jews and has since been called that to this very day
@@bdubz2402 but they aren’t relevant to modern times. Gays have been around as long as Jesus. Yet religion tells you to hate them. Religion tells women they can’t have control over their own bodies. Those things are not relevant and not right in today’s world.
@@Becca_anime122 here’s another question, are you a woman? Why would you worship a god it religion that tells you you can never be a leader. That no woman can ever be a priest or a cardinal or a pope or any kind of religious leader. Why would you stay in a religion that treats you as a second class citizen?
Why do you immediately attempt to disassociate your religious beliefs from the 613 laws in the old testament ? It's almost as if you recognize just how immoral many of them are. 🤔 Is Jesus not also the *SAME GOD* who was responsible for those barbaric immoral laws. ? Did God just *"change his mind"* about slavery, polygamy, infanticide, genocide, ect? Indeed did Jesus himself not say about those mosaic laws that _"he who breaks even the smallest of these laws will be considered least in heaven "_ what do you think he meant by that ?? 🤔 John 14 : 9 *Jesus stated* _"the one having seen Me has seen the Father_ _How is it you say, ‘Show us the Father'_ _Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me_ ? _"I am not speaking the words which I am saying to you from Myself, but the Father abiding in Me is doing His works"_ Are the Ten COMMANDMENTS not in the old testament? do you regard the bible like it's some kind of chinese buffet where you can just pick & choose the bits you like , whilst ignoring the rest.
Not everything in the Bible was designed by God! God didn’t introduce the idea of slavery to humanity, if he did he wouldn’t had given man (plural) free will! God gave self governance and free will to human (Genesis 1:27) “let them have dominion” Genesis 6:5-6; God saw that the wickedness of man was only continuous evil upon the earth….(read the rest) In order for God to bring order, God gave the moral laws which is the Ten Commandments! Now; which part of ten commandments does God command human beings to enslave one another? Are we going to blame God for man’s evil actions, murder, slavery, rape, etc etc
Lol presumably you agree that "freewill" if it exists by definition cannot be the thing that determines the choices we make. If you an I both have "freewill" and are presented with options *"A"* or *"B"* we can make different choices, so clearly "freewill" was not the determining factor that resulted in said "choice" So the question then arises, what was the determing factor ?? Are there no determining factors influencing "choice" ? is it simply random outcomes, a matter of luck or a "coin toss" 🤔 if so then how could God possibly hold us responsible ?? If there are indeed factors that influence the outcome of our "choices" then what are they ?? Is it down to our "nature" desires, greed genetics, along with other internal and external influence from our environment?? Which of these factors involved in Adams "choice" was God *NOT* responsible for ?? His genetics his nature, his knowledge and understanding, every single atom of every single internal and external influence from his environment was aledgedly created by God with foreknowledge was it not ?? If you think I'm wrong then NAME the factors God did *NOT* create with foreknowledge ?? 🙄🤔 If you are unable to do this then tell me why Adam was responsible for his "choice" not God??
Jesus came to interpret the old testament, your carnal mindset can never ever interpret God's word why do you think he came to do what no human born of flesh could ever do.
This is the problem of Sola Scriptura. The Bible itself says no prophecy of scripture is up for personal interpretation, we have the Church Fathers, how the Early Church read the Bible, not how we read it ourselves in the 21st century. Christianity began as a religion of the less privileged to begin with, and we were slaves first during the Muslim conquests.
Brandon let me ask you a very basic question, your response will tell me much about your intellectual honesty or lack of ....... My morality tells me that *"Buy your slaves from the heathen nations that surround you"* Is not nor ever was a "moral" instruction and certainly not a moral reference standard that anyone should adhere or aspire to. Do you agree *YES or NO* ?? 🤔
You're talking about the Jews...Christ was NOT a Jew,nor was he their Lord & Savior...STUDY THE ORIGINAL TEXTS,before they were Bastardized...Yeshua much?!...
This is why no one can stop these riots do you really thing a got would let that happen no I dont if you do your belief is your belief if it helps you that's what matter
All other religion talks about slavery and hell, adultery
Dude slavery was the norm throughout ALL of history. The rules in the Old Testament clarified rules for slavery that gave them rights.
If one tribe or culture decimated another in war, it was humane to take the women and children as slaves as opposed to leave them to starve when you have just killed all their workers and farmers.
Shame on you 🤮
@@trumpbellend6717 for what? Knowledge of history?
// "dude slavery was the norm throughout all history" //
Lol SO WHAT ?? gathering sticks _"was the norm"_ also but that did not allegedly prevent your "God" from forbidding it on the Sabbath upon pain of death did it dear 😜
"Murder" _"was the norm"_ as was "theft" yet God once again forbid them. But when it came to slavery not only did God not forbid it but he told them specifically where and how to aquire them 🤮
@@FredrickDouglass69
// "rules for slavery that gave them rights" //
Lol this reasoning is akin to a slave master from Alabama saying that his slavery was "better" than that in Mississippi because his slaves had lemon tea every Friday. 🤭😅🤣
// "If one tribe or culture decimated another in war it was humane to take the women and children as slaves" //
We clearly have different perceptions of the word _"humane"_ dear ( shakes head in disgust ) presumably you think after the American civil war the North should have taken all the women and children as slaves ?? 🙄 Maybe you think that they should have killed all the women who had _"known a man"_ along with all the male children and spared only the adolescent females with an intact hymen and just shared them amongst the victorious soldiers as per biblical instructions ?? 🤮
You will regret it big time after death . Better ask the Holy Spirit to teach you what you don't. understand than making mockery of the word of God.
Until we stop relying on slaves for our clothes & electric cars, we have no right to criticise ancient people
We are not critacizing _"ancient people"_ dear but rather the biblical laws endorsing slavery that alledgedly represent the profound wisdom of a perfect omnibenevolent omnipotent omniscient loving God 🤮
Jesus never said slave away in a church for eternal life, that slave god that churches use to grow their own business is nothing to do with Jesus even though they pretend it's him. Noone and no church can ever ressurect you from the grave, Gospel Revolution Church, Slidell lGreg Henry also Bertie Brits dynamic love ministries ❤
Sin simply means not believing in God's truth unto life, our carnal fallen mindset believes we're all separated from our heavenly father when it's our thinking we can have life in and of ourselves that separate us from our beautiful heavenly father 🎉
Slavery was taking place all over the world regardless of religion or culture. It was the Brits who worked hard to ban slavery first in England but then saved many slaves from the ships. And generally persuaded other countries to give up slavery. It took time and many lives but was relatively successful.
Sorry dear but what does any of this apologetic piffle have to do with the bibles clear endorsement of slavery ?? 🤔
So let's forget that the faith evolved for the better and you are now probably of the cult of death now instead.
“My people suffer for a lack of knowledge”
Firstly the number 7 represents completion! 8 represents new beginnings
You would think that someone would at least look up why slaves had to be released every 7yrs!
You didn't leave Christianity. As You were in a phony church to begin with. Obeying the gospel of Jesus Christ, Acts 2 38, John 3:5-8, is where you start
“You were never a real christian” moment
Someone hasnt read the new testament lulz.
I would ask which religion is the most toxic.
Which one discriminates
Which one is racist.
Which one is the most shovinist
....
Also religion vs royals
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Also how religions are used by politicians/corporations to devide us.
George Carlin is my king
Chatalic is the most lies and very toxic whith 2000 years if lies white Jesus
The only king there is the Lord Jesus Christ. King of King and Lord of Lords. May god bless you.
@@MrElectricdude with your logic we should burn all the biology books. That would be crime. We went through this period once. It is called MIDDLE AGES.
Bro said so much to say nothing
MODERN DAY SLAVERY is here the law in Iran for instance is the marriage age now changed to 9yrs old so i have been informed Yes Love heals ☘🌿🍀🍃☘🌿🍀🍃🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻
You will believe in Jesus and Hell upon your death ignoring them won't change that
Your dogmatic zeal doesn't make implausible nonsense like God and Hell exist.
If that's what you believe good for you but the bible isn't proof
@@Scrinwaipwr hell will be on earth without spiritual base
Believing teachings from thousands of years ago from people who just wanted to make money from dumb people who believe this story they wrote is just foolish. After you die will be the same as before you were born, remember the feeling from before you were born that's what it'll be like after
@@onca6270 well there's no such thing as souls and demons etc. But with the way capitalism ruins the climate and environment, humans are definitely going to make the world a lot nastier if we don't change our economic ways.
This man I must pray for him because when you take your last breath you will be transported to the father that you served whilst on earth! Hell is no joke please think about what you are saying! 🙏🏽😔
Do baseless assertions constitute some form of rational argument in your world dear? 🤭
Do u all vote democrat ?
Church rules have absolutely nothing to do with Jesus coming to ressurect us from death to life in fact absolutely nothing in this universe can ever give us Gods life why do you think Jesus came and left death in the grave coming up with our Father's beautiful eternal life 🎉
Slavery was part of everyday life allover the world you people need to get a grip
Justin , you say that your sister was a devoted christian, & she died shortly after having her baby. Tell you what's gonna happen, on the day of judgment she'll be spending eternity with Jesus Christ. Take a good guess where you think you'll be spending eternity??? You better go and repent & live for Jesus!
As for TJ, you find it funny. On that DAY, you gonna be verrrrry sorry if you don't repent!
Just because you don't believe anymore, doesn't mean that it's not TRUE. God word is TRUE! No one can fathom GOD!
I pray that you you all will have a personal relationship with Jesus.
I couldn't watch all of this rubbish. It's so sad hearing you talking like this.
Do baseless assertions constitute some form of rational argument in your world dear? 🤭
What you have to remember is slavery was ambiguous from the beginning of time thoughout the world it was common place but with Christian morals and values ended . William the conquer outlawed it in 1068 and the church denouced it in 1102 and through time it was only the Christian nations tried to ended it worldwide
Lol most of the Christian western world engaged on it for over 200 years dear 🤭😅 indeed in the Americas half the Christian population valued it so much they fought a civil war trying to maintain it 🤮
Christ never ever failed he has saved mankind from eternal death but won't force us to trust in him for Life.
Hey i just wanted to tell you about jesus Christian or not and that he died for our sins becoming our savoir, and loves you. He is the way to heaven and wants to have a relationship with you, and help you though life and to have faith in him because thought faith our we saved john-3:16
Moral properties such as responsibility are supervenient on actions and attributes of moral agents, and cannot be transferred between them. As such vicarious redemption ( *scapegoating* ) could never and should never be regarded as either logical or moral.
The idea of sin, or morality however you define it, being a tradeable commodity is at odds with how I define morality. Particularly when it involves the suffering of an innocent. I am responsible for my good and bad actions. My bad deeds can't be "taken" any more than my good nor should they.
It’s wild to me that black and Latino and Asian people (among others) are so hardcore in their Christian and Catholic beliefs today when those religions were forced upon their ancestors. People were literally threatened or manipulated into dumping their centuries old beliefs for Jesus. I’m like why are you so into Jesus? Don’t know your great great great relatives believed something else? You wouldn’t worship your old slave master so why would you worship his god?
Slavery was around for centuries before white European went to Africa and South America. The Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, Ottoman, etc all nations/empires had slavery including countries in Africa, South America and Asia. Unfortunately the human race was barbaric back then and throughout the whole of history. All religious scriptures and books were written centuries ago and references to events that were relevant to the people of that time. As the human race has evolved and learn compassion, love, understanding, remorse, etc and we can take the principles of the stories and relevant them to modern times
@@bdubz2402humans have barley learned anything since then
everyone was in slavery, and God sent Moses to free his people, the jews and Fun fact Jesus known as the king of the Jews and has since been called that to this very day
@@bdubz2402 but they aren’t relevant to modern times. Gays have been around as long as Jesus. Yet religion tells you to hate them. Religion tells women they can’t have control over their own bodies. Those things are not relevant and not right in today’s world.
@@Becca_anime122 here’s another question, are you a woman? Why would you worship a god it religion that tells you you can never be a leader. That no woman can ever be a priest or a cardinal or a pope or any kind of religious leader. Why would you stay in a religion that treats you as a second class citizen?
God is not asking you to justify slavery, slavery is in the Bible but is part of mosaic law not the new covenant
Why do you immediately attempt to disassociate your religious beliefs from the 613 laws in the old testament ? It's almost as if you recognize just how immoral many of them are. 🤔
Is Jesus not also the *SAME GOD* who was responsible for those barbaric immoral laws. ? Did God just *"change his mind"* about slavery, polygamy, infanticide, genocide, ect? Indeed did Jesus himself not say about those mosaic laws that _"he who breaks even the smallest of these laws will be considered least in heaven "_ what do you think he meant by that ?? 🤔
John 14 : 9
*Jesus stated* _"the one having seen Me has seen the Father_ _How is it you say, ‘Show us the Father'_ _Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me_ ? _"I am not speaking the words which I am saying to you from Myself, but the Father abiding in Me is doing His works"_
Are the Ten COMMANDMENTS not in the old testament? do you regard the bible like it's some kind of chinese buffet where you can just pick & choose the bits you like , whilst ignoring the rest.
Not everything in the Bible was designed by God! God didn’t introduce the idea of slavery to humanity, if he did he wouldn’t had given man (plural) free will!
God gave self governance and free will to human (Genesis 1:27) “let them have dominion”
Genesis 6:5-6; God saw that the wickedness of man was only continuous evil upon the earth….(read the rest)
In order for God to bring order, God gave the moral laws which is the Ten Commandments!
Now; which part of ten commandments does God command human beings to enslave one another?
Are we going to blame God for man’s evil actions, murder, slavery, rape, etc etc
Lol presumably you agree that "freewill" if it exists by definition cannot be the thing that determines the choices we make. If you an I both have "freewill" and are presented with options *"A"* or *"B"* we can make different choices, so clearly "freewill" was not the determining factor that resulted in said "choice"
So the question then arises, what was the determing factor ?? Are there no determining factors influencing "choice" ? is it simply random outcomes, a matter of luck or a "coin toss" 🤔 if so then how could God possibly hold us responsible ??
If there are indeed factors that influence the outcome of our "choices" then what are they ?? Is it down to our "nature" desires, greed genetics, along with other internal and external influence from our environment?? Which of these factors involved in Adams "choice" was God *NOT* responsible for ?? His genetics his nature, his knowledge and understanding, every single atom of every single internal and external influence from his environment was aledgedly created by God with foreknowledge was it not ??
If you think I'm wrong then NAME the factors God did *NOT* create with foreknowledge ?? 🙄🤔 If you are unable to do this then tell me why Adam was responsible for his "choice" not God??
Jesus came to interpret the old testament, your carnal mindset can never ever interpret God's word why do you think he came to do what no human born of flesh could ever do.
This is the problem of Sola Scriptura. The Bible itself says no prophecy of scripture is up for personal interpretation, we have the Church Fathers, how the Early Church read the Bible, not how we read it ourselves in the 21st century. Christianity began as a religion of the less privileged to begin with, and we were slaves first during the Muslim conquests.
Brandon let me ask you a very basic question, your response will tell me much about your intellectual honesty or lack of ....... My morality tells me that *"Buy your slaves from the heathen nations that surround you"* Is not nor ever was a "moral" instruction and certainly not a moral reference standard that anyone should adhere or aspire to. Do you agree *YES or NO* ?? 🤔
Best decision of my life leaving Christianity for Buddhism
You're talking about the Jews...Christ was NOT a Jew,nor was he their Lord & Savior...STUDY THE ORIGINAL TEXTS,before they were Bastardized...Yeshua much?!...
Well your stance is not going to change what happened in the past.
That's all you learned!!!
Liberal white guilt 😂😂😂
You’ve closed your ears
This is why no one can stop these riots do you really thing a got would let that happen no I dont if you do your belief is your belief if it helps you that's what matter
The devil takes
Why I left Christianity 😂you don’t leave. It’s the one true religion. Creation. Bible was written by man. Not god
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Where’s Jesus? And when is he coming? And where is the Arc of Noah?
@@DjDeadpig Jesus died bro. I don’t know if the arc existed. No one does.
@@MMAproAtGOLFjesus is alive bro
Weak argument Weak man. He simply couldn’t hold faith.