WTT 2023 - Acola (Steve) Vs. WebbJP (Sheik) Smash Ultimate - SSBU
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- Опубликовано: 7 дек 2023
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Acola: Build a Wall -> mining -> build another wall -> mining. Wall gone? -> Mine-cart, f-air!
Repeat!
Was so sad WebbJP lost like that, but he adapted like no one else. He might have not won the set, but he won in my heart.
oh he's definitely got the runback
VoiD walked so Webb could run
Big set even though he lost in a way like that
Genuinely one of the most upsetting losses in Ult’s 5 year history, my god.
Is it in contention with the mainstage 2021 leo spargo set? Or was it worse?
I think the mainstage set is more heartbreaking, but this was still a gutwrencher
For me it has to be Evo grands with tweek and Leo haha tweek lost that set by I think 1 or 2 frames.
Nah I think this one takes the cake. There wasn't high expectation for WebbJP to win but he played phenomenal and had Acola worried.
I think this is definitely the most upsetting . Everyone & I mean EVERYONE rooted for Steve to lose 😅 even the commentators
haha
great set
Best 30 mins of Sheik gameplay I've seen ever. This video is PROOF that Sheik is very much a viable character in todays smash meta.
Just have to work 10x harder than your opponent.
@@fupaloveryou work longer, not harder. Especially with all the tools you have
@@Ed_AlphANahh, bruhh. As Sheik you have to do both - working Longer and Harder. The micromanaging alone Sheik has to do. Not that Steve is easy (on that level). On a "difficult to play - chart", Sheik is definitely over Steve by some places. Sheik is really close to Peach or Ice climbers. Would you compare Peach with Steve? Steve is easier. Of cause, every character needs experience and practice. Depending on the techs that you can use and the techs you have to use, to make the character viable.
@@danielscheuermann8883 ok, Steve is busted we all know it, but if you compare to a normal caracter, sheik does not work so much harder. It requires some very good patience and execution but your tools give you this ability to play the game all the time. I've never seen a sheik that cant win neutral at least 50% of the time because "the match up is hard"
@@Ed_AlphATrue. Not much harder, just a bit. But her tech an execution is.
Webb got robbed, I feel just bad, and that ending was not only heartbreak,that was so....I can't even say it without sounding mean
The way I SCEAMED when that spike connected at the end
THE COME BACK HYPE
That ending was HEARTBREAKING… Webb SOOOOO deserved that
The enitre time I was thinking Acola was going to win because he pretty much never loses, as soon as I started to believe it started to unravel
Definitely a devastating end to watch live, but man Webb’s adaptation that set was next level
Honestly, Webb played very well, but was way too aggressive for too long. The moment Acola took that 2nd stock in game 5, Webb should have *hard camped.* There was one minute on the clock and Sheik is much faster than Steve. He could have won but he wanted to finish Acola off traditionally. He shouldn't even contest the blocks at this time. Just let Acola mine and waste time.
In this meta we gotta use time outs more often. Even I started using them as Marth. Sometimes I get an actual time out. Other times, my opponent throws out a hail mary attack and I hard punish them for it. We need to out camp the campers.
lol nothing is deserved. only earned
No Acola deserved that.
Webb new fav player, such a Warrior. He was like "yeah mine all u want, imma face u when u come out" and boy he did, Game 4 was beautiful
Down with Steve. Let's see Acola compete with a balanced character.
「If my opponent was a different character, I could have won...」
it's called loser's whining
6:37 love how charles explained NIL and Acola proceeded to show a demonstration completely on time 🤣🤣
WebbJP played amazingly and showed that Shiek is very much viable.
Webb's adaptation after those first 2 games was astonishing.
Taking Acola to game 5 last stock is no joke. Great stuff to both players!
Damn I'm upset. Knowing THAT is how this ended. I've never hated Ultimate more LMAO
Ultimate✖️
Steve✅️
@@alexneuman600I mean he’s part of the game
lol
How hard shiek needs to try to even come close that that unbalanced block
MAN Webb got robbed. Played out his fucking mind for 3 games straight just to lose to Steve BS at the last moment 😭
Sonic is more BS but people hatin japan for no reason even though they made the game
@@ohpeep3723sonic is definetly not this BS,even with all his BS you still have to play the game and see people fall out of your moves.
@@ahmadkazan5473 watch videos on pros talking about this debate, they thought otherwise
@@ohpeep3723if acola was as white as a piece of paper, or as black as midnight, we'd still be saying exactly this, bro💀💀💀💀💀
That alone is ban worthy. It's just not competitive, fair play.
I’m not one to hate players just because of the character they play but after watching every way web died in game five, maybe Steve players do deserve the hate
Imagine having a forward air that kills at 80%. Or a smash that kills at 40. Or combos that land 60% consistently. That then you only need to git the opponent once or twice to kill after. Oh yeah, there is basically no end lag, and you can just jump around spamming them after throwing 20minecarts out until the opponent engages. Ahhh shit i got hit, anvil minecart anvil minecart throw airels in between. If they get hit once, all of a sudden, I'm in advantage, anvil their almost dead.
What fuckin nonsense.
Imagine having the best up tilt in the game, that is fast, and safe on shield, disjointed and - oh brother - if it hits you it has true combos into a kill. At ANY PERCENT.
Thanks sakurai.
I would've been fine with Steve honestly if it wasn't for up tilt and up air,not only does he have all the other tools but he has the best buttons in the game too.
Definitely ban worthy. I'm tolerating campy, filthy playstyles. But not just genuine non-competetive unfair bs.
@@portercruickshankdefarias5641Up tilt is plus on shield btw.
I’m game 1 Acola threw out over 30+ moves in under 30 seconds with all of the moves being safe and potential game ending moves, can we please do something about steve
My heart broke with that last game
I am both impressed and unimpressed with Acola at the same time. What is impressive is that he managed to win almost every game 5. The unimpressive part is actually how he won.
I get the whole play to win but I don't know how you can feel good about winning like that. Steve shouldn't be able to build outside the ledges of the stage. It's basically playing god in a platform fighter.
Ban steve
@TryHardSasquatch I'm not for banning Steve, however I do think it's silly how little this is underplayed...
Like can you imagine how SF6 players would react if they could just delete parts of the stage?
It literally is "creative mode" when Steve plays sometimes haha.
@@dkdavy9957solid way to put it
@@TryHardSasquatch you feel good about it by thinking "haha funny block man I win da game"
I'm not sure what's more strange. The fact it went to game 5 after the brutal game 1 and 2, or the fact that the winner clutched the set anyway.
I think people in the comments are too busy getting mad at Steve for the thousandth time to appreciate that WebbJP adapted extremely well after the first two games. Like that was HUGE
yeah but the fact that steve in the las stock used around 18 minecarts and still got 3 more iron block to edgegard webb, i mean that was ridiculous@@SmaxSSB
@@eliasvergaramendezI wouldn’t say it’s ridiculous. Webb wasn’t approaching so Acola had the opportunity to stock up in iron. Makes sense that he had a ton by that final interaction
3:07 wow so much skill
Why is steve not banned its so clear this character isnt fair for competitive play
Why is Steve so fast, every time mine cart hits an angel loses its wings 😭
Actually disheartening to see that happen
あの内容で負けて感情出さないのは素直に尊敬する。自分ならキーボードクラッシャーする自信ある。
Webbうますぎた、忍耐力と集中力すごい。最後のスティーブの所業が酷すぎたけど…
最後完全に復帰ルート読まれてて草なんよ
voidより強く見えたけどこの人が世界最強シーク？
@@user-qy2zl9ci9wI think he is stronger than Void. Void learns fast but has a lower peak than other professional players. That's why He was able to win the big money Multiversus tournaments with Nakat even though they both had low results in Smash Ultimate.
これは流石にスティーブすぎるよな。トロッコに捕まったのもwebbのミス感あるし
Fair and balanced character btw.
Iike Kazuya
Yep an honest mid tier
Izaw said bottom tier though 😭
@@LoliPeeSlurper that dude doesnt know what he is talking about
@@LoliPeeSlurper Who is Izaw?
I just wanna say, I love how audible the game and the music is these sets so far.
Wish he just camp, man. Is Steve You are not going to be the lamest one 😭😭😭
I’m usually a believer in “hate the character not the player” but how does Acola sleep after doing this to ppl 😭
Yea ig he should have just purposely lost at the end instead? He does what he can to win I’m not gonna blame him
@@chromies8076what he should not do is pop off as if he has more skill than webbjp
@@chromies8076That's like throwing salt into the eyes of a dude who's deaf to win a fight against him. (If it was legal and if his eyes would recover till the next tournament / next fight.) Just pure desperate, unfair, nonsense. Without a doubt, it is an immoral thing to do.
@@LazyNinjassbut he does have more skill with Steve. He is the best player but also the best Steve player in the world. Like sure Steve carries, but no Steve even comes close when it comes to consistency as acola.
@@LazyNinjasscalm tf down 🤦🏽 he's a kid and he popped off because its a close set.
Hating on a player like that as a spectator just makes you a loser
damn, biggest frown on my face at the end lol.. character should not be able to do that
Smash ulitmate is a fair and balanced game
Lol
bro that ending 💀
steve is so absurdly broken
Fuck Steve man this game is so hard to watch now
It's a good thing YT censored the dislike button. Because I know for a fact the vast majority didn't like the outcome of this set.
847 likes vs. 127 dislikes according to the dislike return plugin.
This is a matchup where it might technically be losing but their's still a path to victory. Execute well enough and sheik's speed and frame data can outdo Steve's frame data and make him feel his low speed a little bit.
So well played from WebbJP, managing to figure out the match up and change his playstyle accordingly. Really utilizing the combo potential of Shiek and finding the right openings to strike. If WebbJP played the first two games like he did the last three I think he might have come out victorious.
The most heartbreaking set EVER
I'm so sad
WHAAAAT?? Only 27 minutes of acola camping????
WEBBJPはよく最後まで感情的にならなかったな。最後のシーン、俺だったらモニターを破壊する自信ある。
deeply unserious gameplay, sheik is fun to watch acola sitting behind double layered walls with no counterplay is so god damn funny. the gameplan has suched a fucked risk reward ratio. Wp to webb
That has counterplay, it is just Sheik doesn't have the tools.
@@Yokai_Yuri i see that angle for sure. the risk reward is still insanely in steve's favor. nothing against acola, shit is just lame as hell
Rooting for WebbJP 🎉
プレイヤーを責めるのは流石にダメだけど、これでスティーブを嫌うなって言う方が無理がある気がする。
The camping was real. Sad ending for Webb.
I HATE TO SAY THIS! BUT WEBB SHOULDVE CAMPED HIM THAT GAME 5 WHEN HE WAS UP 2-STOCKS WITH ONLY 1:50 seconds left! Go for the W man, I know it’s a corny way to get an upset but a WIN IS A WIN!
Gives him a better chance but wouldnt be surprised if Acola still wn that's a lot of time for steve
@@postboy2242 2 stocks up camping with needle & catching sheik wouldn’t be easy.
Only a min plus for him needing to run
I said the same thing. Idk why he engaged him. Steve with diamond only needs one interaction to even out the score. Webb outplayed tf out of Acola, but because he made one wrong choice, it cost him.
Acola was literally panicking and playing horribly in that final stock, his character completely carried him.
No thoughts, only side b
i wish steve wasnt able to make blocks mid air, just from the ground and attached to the blocks. Like in vanilla minecraft.. like why did they not think of that 💀
27:00 the Donkey Kong game over theme played in my head
I love this game but that ending was horrible 😭
Damn, heartbreaking. Buts it’s always nice to see acola give props after a close match and Webb definitely deserves it.
That ending hurt so much.
I just realized, is Webbs in game tag referencing the PaP'd raygun?
Bro was spamming mine cart for free
Imagine making that MU look doable. The skill diff was tremendous during that set. Same thing for gluto vs acola
Im confused. Why was every game on the same stage?
Im coming from melee, where there's a lot of platform movement. Am i just watching the wrong players/characters or is ult a much more grounded game?
Typically in most matchups you see a pretty healthy variety of stages, but small battlefield and Pokémon stadium 2 are basically favorites among a lot of players/characters. Also platforms are a bit odd in Ultimate. I don't know the exact mechanics behind it but people like to refer to platforms as being "sticky". Sometimes your character just won't drop through the platform. Whether this is the result of a conflicting input or the game not buffering the down input during landing lag I'm not sure. Typically with combos and movements you tend to see things progressing upward, and the person on the platform in neutral is at a disadvantage because acting downward is awkward and unreliable.
I might be WAY OFF, but this is my best understanding.
A big reason is Steve as a character. He slows this game to a crawl. On Small Battlefield (as well as PS2) he can make those walls and then mine under theh platforms which makes approaching him very hard if not impossible for certain characters. Hence why a big portion of this set was them just standing around. Another reason is that Steve mines up different materials at greater rates, so certain stages are way better for Steve than others
It´s sad to see good players lose against the BS of Steve
Nah bro thats some bullshit, webb outplayed him for the entirety of the last 3 games just to get gimmped
Webb could have actually platform camped Acola and he would have won game 5. No way would Acola catch up if Webb stayed back. Sometimes you just gotta play lame to win. There was a minute on the clock and Webb had a huge percent lead. Steve mining would not change anything and Webb's frame data is far too good for Steve to catch up.
Before you all say I don't know what I'm talking about, I too camp out players as Marth when I have the opportunity (heck I timed out a Sonic once). It works. If a Marth can do it, a Sheik certainly can as well. My rule of thumb is, the moment the clock hits 2 minutes and I am up a stock or have a percent lead, play *extra slow.* Works very well against most characters unless you play someone sluggish.
Still, GGs. Acola proving why he is still the best Steve.
Yea I agree, I think the problem is that WebbJP is an aggressive type of player and often over extends to “fish for clips” sometimes, so with that mentality, he doesn’t play the most safe or camp. He has done such a good job being patient in this set and camping that he brought it to G5, but when you analyze why he lost his insane lead, its because he started to ride the momentum and try to just win it. If he kept the same formula that was working, he would win (plus timing out). But instead he got hit by random minecart/anvil and dies at 80% and thats the major reason Acola came back. He should just have disengaged the moment he got Acola on his last stock and he was a full stock ahead. It’s a shame and I know he wanted to win on his own terms, but this was the costly risk and unfortunately was on the bad end of it. He’d be sick if he did win on his own terms though
Saying there's "no way" is a pretty huge overstatement. They're not on a big stage, Steve has diamond sword, and even without diamond Steve can sht out 70+% damage on a single interaction easily. Way too optimistic thinking he'd realistically be able to avoid Acola for a minute and a half.
Woah this guy timed out a Sonic 😱
Because he's campy and cheesy and desperate?
true, onin said it once. Its important to camp steve, yeah he'll get hella iron, but its better to not approach his walls, let him come to you if u have a lead
シーク使ってしっかりアツい試合演出できるのマジでかっこいい
I usually root for Acola but damn that ending was tragic… Webb 100% deserved that win
That popoff is so cringe 💀
No disrespect to Acola, he's a great player, but omg all that amazing shiek play, a wonderful comeback, and one fair + block stole all my hype from me. Steve man. The original wait n bait character
Markiplier: AAHHRRG AFTER ALLL THAT
Also Markiplier: It’s chance it’s flipping chance! I hate when skill doesn’t mean anything!
One cart does 23.9%. Nearly 4% more than Cloud's LIMIT blade beam. On top of that, cart has combos and mixups for multiple scenarios. Dumb character.
Damn WHAT?! I've never noticed this. 24 with a single side-b (when it's this good and this spammable) is absolutely crazy.
Imagine spamming 12 mine carts in 40 seconds into building a wall in the middle of the air for a win.
Then popping off 😂😂 no shade at Acola he seems awesome, but good gracious do I hate Steve
That's ontop of it being a burst mobility option AND a command grab? Like dog who thought up this move?
Wish Steve was banned the hell is this
F Steve. Too much jank. Patch him. He can’t even do those midair walls in his own game. (Acola is a great player who deserves respect, but Steve’s kit was the difference rather than Acola’s performance in this set.)
Unfortunately the game ain't getting anymore patches I don't think and I don't see nintendo doing anything themselves. I honestly think we just gotta ban the character cus I can't handle watching these dumb ass sets no more. Maybe then Nintendo will actually do something too if he just stays banned for a while
WebbJP CEO of bag fumbler university now with that double jump off stage… 💀
Skill vs 5.99$
何だ、これは。スティーブの時代が来たな！
😂
respect the Treyarch zombies representation
Sucks Webb was only 1,000,000× better than Acola instead of 1,000,000,000 maybe Webb can adapt to that next time!!!
god, watching sets like this makes me unironically miss smash 4, bayo was broken and all, but at least she would interact with the other character, 90% of the set was just steve building a wall and mining behind it. Idk whats so hard about banning the character indefinitely.
Somehow this was still about the same length as the set between Luis and Sonix. Which was only 4 games long.
Imagine popping off to a guy who deserved to win 10x more than you did and with 10x more skill but you just happen to play Steve
calm down lil bro, he popped off because he won a very close set
He is not popping off cause he plays Steve he is popping off cause he won when it didnt look like he would. Imagine.
Thats it im never watching steve again
The winner def clutched it but I gotta admit, that was the least satisfying ending ever.
I know you said "the winner" to avoid spoiling the set, which I appreciate! But just based off what you said I can tell Acola won lmaoooo
This is literally Rock Lee vs Gaara.
日本人だけどシーク応援してた笑
流石に大体の人がシーク応援するやろ
You can see the disrespect Acola had for WebbJP at the beginning of the set, Fsmash at ledge and many call outs because he didn’t know the matchup yet. But after WebbJP’s insane fundies and adaptation, Acola started to feel so many emotions, which is something I’ve only seen Sparg0 or Miya do to him. I’m glad WebbJP demanded that respect and Acola had to give it up even after he won in such an anticlimactic way, I’m sure Acola won’t be treating him like some no name player again. Good shit WebbJP, earned yourself a new follower.
I wouldn't go as far as saying "disrespect" but he definitely underestimated him
@@nellio3981 Just Smash neutral terminology, or at least I watch a lot of Marss and in scenarios where people don’t give the other person credit, it’s disrespect. Like if Marss lands an unecessary downair off stage, that’s considered “disrespect” even if he has no intention to actually disrespect someone. Acola’s reads in the first two games were just that harsh, which fall under “disrespect” but isn’t “disrespectful” if you know what I mean
@@KakinTseGamePlayer"He's not respecting him" is how it's usually phrased.
Basically means that you are calling out the fact that your opponent cannot properly utilize their options.
13:29 webbjp noticed his L-button wasn't working
Love when Acola uses jab, jab, jab, jab, jab, jab
this literally makes me want to never watch or compete in any competition of any sort ever again.
Well, at least Webb immediately beat the "RFang treatment" allegations
I will never understand why they gave Steve mid air block placement. AND THEN not only 1 mid air block that can block recovery, but 3?! or more?! Dude outplayed Acola in every way games 3-5. What a joke to lose to that. It's basically a down air spike as big as a battlefield platform. He was robbed from one of the craziest sets of all time. Webb was playing out of his mind.
Acola is so trash, literally only getting carried by exploiting Steve’s broken move set
Damn, WebbJP's got to be the best Sheik in the world. Wp
THAT AIN'T VOID, THAT AIN'T VOID OH OOH OH OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH.
I think the buffer system is to blame here. He tried to mash out but still somehow got jump
I know you gotta do what you gotta do to win but there's no way Acola was actually proud to win like that. Honesty feel bad for Webb, that fella was fighting for his life just to lose to the 8 millionth Minecart and a Diamond fair.
who r u to tell him what he can be proud of or not proud of
@@Daniel-ce6mm yeah you right lol, my b
@@Daniel-ce6mm If you proud of playing steve you got something wrong with you lmao
@@joecool4872 id be proud to win w steve cause im not a cornball that cares ab the legitimacy of my wins
@@Daniel-ce6mm you should be ashamed
great game, WebbJP is definitely the fan favorite here lol. I think Acola got too comfortable after his wins.
Webb had that man.
Top 10 mot tragic anime deaths.
Webb should've taken a pahe from Sonix and time out
Man, that ending was wack as hell
WebbJP is so much more skilled than Acola. Steve puts him on his back tbh
Lmfao 😂 ggs!! Webb ran away at the end.
I see webbjp and I click, it’s just like that
Nah I’m pissed
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Acola Game 5 strikes again…
In the most absurd way possible!