How to practice IDJ Nair with Sora

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
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  • @treehouse_ttv
    @treehouse_ttv  3 месяца назад +6

    Hi everyone! I have been teaching several private lessons on IDJs specifically, so if you are interested, please let me know, and here is a discord server I specifically made for lessons. Still working on stuff for it. Thanks!! 🥳💙✨️
    discord.com/invite/SSztr7wG

  • @michaelzamora8056
    @michaelzamora8056 Год назад +146

    I think being able to do this move, is just as important as being able to ewgf with Kazuya. If you can't throw this out on a moments notice, you can't really take your Sora to a competitive level.

    • @toureyounouss7897
      @toureyounouss7897 8 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly

    • @sethwilliamson3596
      @sethwilliamson3596 8 месяцев назад

      It’s no where near as important and there’s practically 0 use for it in competitive because it isn’t true

    • @michaelzamora8056
      @michaelzamora8056 8 месяцев назад +4

      @sethwilliamson3596 That's how you do the most effective nair/fair loop combos. If you don't idj them your opponent is more likely to be out of reach for next loop. Sure Sora has lots of other tools, but this one of those sure fire combos that when done right always connect, like ew godfist with Kazuya

    • @michaelzamora8056
      @michaelzamora8056 8 месяцев назад

      @sethwilliamson3596 have you ever seen a high level competitive Sora play before?

    • @substitutedoll5224
      @substitutedoll5224 7 месяцев назад

      @@michaelzamora8056 kameme has started mostly just using short hop nair delaying the second hit and buffering a fast fall in order to start combos, he uses noops mostly as a combo extender but he tends to prefer forward air for it over nair

  • @kanyaebruh
    @kanyaebruh 6 месяцев назад +27

    this is so ridiculously hard

    • @yuhboimarcyuh5582
      @yuhboimarcyuh5582 3 месяца назад +4

      Try IDJs with Falcon to get the hang of it. That's how I did, because his uair combos are quite straight forward with IDJ

    • @donaldcotterman8168
      @donaldcotterman8168 3 месяца назад

      I'm not even sure I'm doing it right 😭

    • @fayro7846
      @fayro7846 2 месяца назад +1

      For me, it works better by pressing the jump button twice instead of pressing two jump buttons simultaneously. I changed my jump button to "x" so it is next to the attack "A".
      So every time I do IDJ combos, it starts like this.
      Tap X--> Fast Tap X+A
      And it works for me, but also keep in mind you can buffer a jump before any animation ends which makes it way easier.

  • @triforcesam99
    @triforcesam99 Год назад +33

    Idj combos with Sora is Godly 🔥🔥🔥

  • @Gamer63200
    @Gamer63200 Год назад +34

    When practicing you gotta be careful not to do it too quickly one after another. After landing (even empty land) you‘re in a few frames of lag allowing you to buffer. Doesn’t sound like much, but basically doubles, or triples the window. (From 3 frames of jumpsquat to that plus 4 or so frames of landing)

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад +1

      Correct! It’s not as fast as you think. It’s also different with each character

  • @knextdoorrr_
    @knextdoorrr_ 6 месяцев назад +4

    was able to learn in 15 minutes using this video no joke thank you😭💙

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  5 месяцев назад +1

      LETS GOOOO!!! ✨️ no problem and so glad I could help 🤠

  • @stompsalot
    @stompsalot Год назад +6

    ooo I found this really useful! I'm starting to learn Sora atm and found these really difficult (since I don't play M2, Ness, Peach, etc) but they're getting easier; thank you for a nice, progressive set of drills to practice! 😃

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад +2

      That's great to hear! And thank you so much 😊

  • @treehouse_ttv
    @treehouse_ttv  Год назад +9

    THANK YALL SM!!! 😭💙💙

  • @CornSoupYT
    @CornSoupYT 7 месяцев назад +9

    Music audio overpowers the voice a little

  • @donaldcotterman8168
    @donaldcotterman8168 3 месяца назад +2

    MY BRAIN HURTS 😭😭😭😭

  • @MrDeath-yl9ml
    @MrDeath-yl9ml 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you so much. Learned the combos in 1 day!

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you so much for watching!! 😊✨️ remember to like and subscribe!! 🙂

    • @MrDeath-yl9ml
      @MrDeath-yl9ml 5 месяцев назад

      @@treehouse_ttv idk why but every time I do the nair loops bowser keeps going to high. Do I have to do fair sometimes or like what am I doing wrong lol

  • @johng9200
    @johng9200 Год назад +9

    Super well done and helpful! :D

  • @DivineZenkai
    @DivineZenkai 7 месяцев назад

    As an incineroar main, learning to play sora has been one of the hardest learning curves known to man I just dont know where to start until now. This and the izaw guide will hopefully get me to where i wanna be

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  7 месяцев назад

      Incin is so cool!! awesome stuff on the switch! good luck and glad this helped :)

  • @luansomething380
    @luansomething380 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the vid! I main sora but never felt comfortable learning this. I think I might give it a try now.

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  7 месяцев назад

      of course! no problem and thank you so much for watching! :)

  • @makishi1285
    @makishi1285 2 месяца назад +3

    Just for improving, background music should be in the background and should not be louder than your voice

  • @XxWhite_Fang45xX
    @XxWhite_Fang45xX Год назад +2

    Thanks for this I needed it 👍🏻

  • @DragonsRiver
    @DragonsRiver Год назад +2

    Thanks for video

  • @eltoro_ttv
    @eltoro_ttv Год назад +4

    Yooooooo i'm getting the hang of it.
    Update, i'm probably gonna trade in my GCN Controller for a Pro controller based off of how easy i did this loop on the joy con

  • @jpc7795
    @jpc7795 Год назад +2

    I'm taking notes

  • @jamescano1769
    @jamescano1769 Год назад +1

    Awesome thank you. Super helpful

  • @luisB_OG
    @luisB_OG Год назад +1

    Bro, godly content!

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад +1

      Thank you so so much for watching bro!!! 🥹💙✨🔥🙏🏻

  • @andybru
    @andybru Год назад +2

    Solid video dude!!

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад

      Appreciate it KING 👑🙏🏻✨🔥 !so Andy Bro 🤓🤠

  • @ivrydice0954
    @ivrydice0954 Год назад +5

    I would like some better visual ques like the little DJ circle telling me if I double jumped too low or too high or things like that.
    Other than that nice video.

    • @michaelzamora8056
      @michaelzamora8056 Год назад

      That depends on the character I think. What's too high for Kirby is probably not too high for Bowser. Even then, in general you want to be as close to the ground as physically possible, so your fastfall ends sooner.

  • @WHATEVEZDUDE2
    @WHATEVEZDUDE2 Год назад +3

    okay i like it picasso

  • @koloae9196
    @koloae9196 Год назад

    Thanks a lot for this video 😆

  • @Tristan02539
    @Tristan02539 Год назад +2

    Whoa did you mod in sora voice clips from KH1? That’s really cool. I gotta do that for my switch.

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад +1

      I can't play without a modded switch now HAHA

  • @the_sinik
    @the_sinik Год назад +2

    i am now a sora main thanks to tree the house the 1st

  • @paulwgraves
    @paulwgraves 4 месяца назад +1

    This is so hard bro. I just tried learning this for 30 min straight and feel like I got nowhere 😅

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  4 месяца назад

      You got this!! I believe!! I also give private lessons on IDJs. I had one just 2 weeks ago. Lmk if you're interested! 😊

  • @AstralAlpaca
    @AstralAlpaca Год назад +1

    Its not for everyone's brain im learning

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад

      Not true!!!! You can do this!!! 🗝✨️🔥🔥

  • @damnamazin
    @damnamazin Год назад +1

    LFG! Teacher tree in da house!! 🤓

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад +1

      LOLLLL 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓 ugh I love that emote lol 😂

    • @damnamazin
      @damnamazin Год назад

      @@treehouse_ttv it’s basically the treemote 🤓✨

  • @soulisbored747
    @soulisbored747 3 месяца назад +1

    I’ve been at it for an hour and I still can’t do a single idj 😂😂😂

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  3 месяца назад +1

      I'm about to pin a link but I do lessons of IDJs and such, too, if you or anyone seeing this is interested.

  • @vicobeid3618
    @vicobeid3618 Год назад +1

    Can I not just short hop fast fall this?

  • @chilimcwilly9718
    @chilimcwilly9718 Год назад +1

    Content baby

  • @Moss_Presents
    @Moss_Presents Год назад +1

    Obligatory comment added for the sake of the algorithm.
    Seriously though good tut. I've heard some people turn on tap up jump for the first time since smash 64 to do this as well. I prefer the shoulder button like you used in the video though.
    (Also obligatory emote just in case) 🤫

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад

      LOLLL thank you so much homie! 🥹 yes! I’ve heard of people doing that, and I also prefer the back ZL button! Whatever your controls are, it still takes getting used to for sure. Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching! 😊✨

  • @reyanhuq5201
    @reyanhuq5201 25 дней назад +1

    i just don't see how you go from flying around doing IDJ to hitting something low with it. what am I MISSING?

    • @milesuponmyles8898
      @milesuponmyles8898 День назад

      Nairing after hitting the double jump is the difference. It’s the timing you have to get right.

  • @medecko4394
    @medecko4394 Год назад

    Welp… Back to the training lab again…

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад

      ✨back to the lab again✨ 🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶

  • @spiritualak5147
    @spiritualak5147 Год назад +1

    The first part where you mention the back button to jump in place. Am I use the face jump buttons as well or just the back one?

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад

      for the very first one, practice using jump (X) and the immediately use ZL! hope this helps! lemme know if it does! 💫💖

  • @JanSport805
    @JanSport805 11 месяцев назад

    Is that the unreleased Sora amiibo I see in the background?👀

  • @silverrath
    @silverrath 11 месяцев назад

    I be doing mine the hard way, by double tapping the X button 💀

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  10 месяцев назад

      if it works, it works! ive noticed that when I try to do that, the timing messes me up. with the back button, the timing works for more combos, personally

    • @chiliandcornbread09
      @chiliandcornbread09 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@treehouse_ttvI feel like this is much harder with a GameCube controller

  • @OyanKen
    @OyanKen Год назад +1

    What mods are you using?? I like the keyblade particles !!

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад +2

      thank you so much! that was a timeless river keyblade mod, but it was not on KH1, but the black and white timeless river effect was there, though!

  • @Star-um9cz
    @Star-um9cz Год назад +3

    Is it possible to combo without using idj with sora? Cause I’ll be honest with the idj stuff you kinda have do the following all at the same time:
    1. Track where your opponents going (including following di)
    2. Maintain the dexterity in your hand for long periods of time
    3. Follow the tight timings and very specific hitboxes
    This looks like it’s far beyond my capabilities to pull this off during a real match, hell even in training mode this idj thing is overbearing no matter how hard I try, so anyone know if is possible to get similar performance without idj?

    • @michaelzamora8056
      @michaelzamora8056 Год назад +1

      You can but its a less consistent method. You may do everything perfect, but they still just di out of it. If you wanna take sora to high competitive level, you should practice this.

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад +1

      Yes. IDJ isn't always the answer. It's good to not for mixups, but also, at some early early percents it will not work, depending on the character of course

  • @donaldcotterman8168
    @donaldcotterman8168 3 месяца назад

    God these smash channels really need to explain what they're talking about because I came in having no competitive knowledge and just started playing sora. All I learned was instant double jump and I still don't know what an IDJ or a Nair is

  • @C_itsNemo
    @C_itsNemo 10 месяцев назад +1

    But how do you short hop it??

  • @LukeBerserker
    @LukeBerserker Год назад +5

    Shout out to everyone who can do this because its been over a year and I still Cant do it. Just don't have the finger control😭
    I literally Cant even get the 2nd hit of Nair or Fair out. Every time I land the first hit, Sora just fast falls and never does the 2nd hit😭😭

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад

      Don't give up!!! You can do it 🗝✨️💖

  • @Fira_sp
    @Fira_sp 4 месяца назад

    I cant

  • @joshualovell6587
    @joshualovell6587 8 месяцев назад +1

    On gamecube controller have L trigger and y set to jump and I can spend hours and not get a single IDJ to come out that close to the ground. Not sure what folks are doing differently? Thanks!

    • @pr-pc8fq
      @pr-pc8fq 7 месяцев назад +1

      you gotta make sure to let go of Y before you press L (or the other way around, depending on how you do it). generally you have 3 frames for that, but if you do it during landing lag, you have more time. it helps to do it in frame by frame to get the understanding right, and then do it at slower speeds and go up to 1x as you get used to it

  • @EliMfGen
    @EliMfGen 5 месяцев назад +1

    i just don't understand. I'm trying to get it figured out but for some reasons my controller refuses to buffer any aerial after pressing jump. i can't get the double jump to come out lol. anybody else having trouble? been playing this video on 0.1 speed even to see the buttons dude is pressing but i just can't figure it out. i see the buttons he's pressing but when i press them they don't work

    • @4BigGuysm
      @4BigGuysm 5 месяцев назад

      I am too but It’s kinda working

  • @switch_g1itch57
    @switch_g1itch57 Месяц назад

    It still doesnt work for me do you have any other tips?

  • @sumerts7164
    @sumerts7164 Год назад

    What is the music used in the background?
    It’s so good 😊

  • @bronthechad
    @bronthechad Год назад

    I dont understand, everytime I don the input I only buffers one jump. I use high sensitivity for my controller is that doing anything?

  • @Name.15
    @Name.15 10 месяцев назад

    Does it matter if you use both zl and y at the same time or is there other ways and also I know I’m one year late

  • @AJENTxSPACELY
    @AJENTxSPACELY Год назад +1

    What do you do when you have a crush on the instructor? 😳

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад +1

      🤓👉🏻👈🏻🤓👉🏻👈🏻🤓👉🏻👈🏻🤓👉🏻👈🏻

  • @krystianduverne6263
    @krystianduverne6263 10 месяцев назад

    I have questions just on sora nair loops in general and their practicality could they be used on any weight class in the game or is it exclusive to heavy weights and some medium weights?

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  7 месяцев назад

      it depends--on characters like rob, its not as common as it seems. it will work on almost any heavy, some medium and for the others, thats when IDJ fair comes into play. sora can be super different against every character

  • @davidazam5814
    @davidazam5814 10 месяцев назад

    Dude, I can’t even IDJ on the first step unless I’m using trigger and analog stick, I can’t seem to do it with just the buttons. Does anyone have any tips?

  • @4BigGuysm
    @4BigGuysm 5 месяцев назад

    Br I’ve done this for 5 hours and can’t idj bro I’m pushing jump then zr and nothing happens

  • @chrisbrening6499
    @chrisbrening6499 Год назад

    I am not getting the nair 2 to come out correctly. Do I need to fast fall first and hit it before I hit the ground. What's the trick here?
    Also, being more specific about what nair 1 2 is would be super helpful for plebs like me.

    • @sencrew5293
      @sencrew5293 Год назад +1

      Press nair 2 then down before it hits.

  • @armandofilippini6330
    @armandofilippini6330 5 месяцев назад

    I’m not hitting the second hit after idj, do you guys know why?

  • @carsonbledsoe5384
    @carsonbledsoe5384 10 месяцев назад

    What’s the order at the end for combining bowser? I got the idj down. Is he doing bait and then idj bait? I keep pushing bowser too far to get to him

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  7 месяцев назад

      fair 1-2, down tilt, up air, up air, up special

  • @catheadcup4744
    @catheadcup4744 Год назад

    Not sure if you will get around to this comment but I've done the IDJ nair quite a bit in training and the 1-2 does 8.7% for me and the normal 1-2 does like 7.4% I do more damage vs normal but not your specific number, any idea why?

    • @jojo6783f
      @jojo6783f Год назад +3

      Turn on the move staling option. Which you should always do when going into training mode.

  • @UTgohan
    @UTgohan 9 месяцев назад +2

    Sometimes I do the idj so low to the ground I can’t do the fast fall nair, why is that?

    • @JinzoAndRiverz
      @JinzoAndRiverz 3 месяца назад

      Having this same issue. What can I do

  • @skullz1484
    @skullz1484 Год назад +3

    no matter what i do, i press both of them and only one jump comes out, my back trigger works, and this doesn’t work with any other button the 2nd jump isn’t inputting for some reason, it’s almost like buffered can i have any help with this?

    • @kirbyboi4288
      @kirbyboi4288 Год назад +1

      I thought it was just me. Thank god I’m not the only one

    • @UltimateInkling
      @UltimateInkling Год назад

      ​​@@kirbyboi4288 yea same god damn it sakurai why couldnt u implement a IDJ as a setting :(

  • @ShadowMixes69
    @ShadowMixes69 Год назад +1

    Why is there input lag for me

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад

      not sure--make sure youre trying it on a monitor and not a big TV!

    • @ShadowMixes69
      @ShadowMixes69 Год назад

      @@treehouse_ttv I am, I think it’s bc of I’m using my zelda conroller and not a pro controller

  • @abrahamster4234
    @abrahamster4234 Год назад

    I mastered the combo with Bowser but is there any tips on doing it on Light Weights or Middle Weights???

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад

      That's where IDJ fair comes in...I'll be making the vid soon 👀

    • @dennismiciano5297
      @dennismiciano5297 Год назад

      @@treehouse_ttvis the video still coming :,) I can kinda connect nairs idj to fairs but not consistently:,). Any tips?

  • @luv_animates
    @luv_animates Год назад +1

    🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️❤️❤️💪💪💪

  • @mariosaucedo6234
    @mariosaucedo6234 3 месяца назад

    Can I use X instead?

  • @triplezeroxz5875
    @triplezeroxz5875 10 месяцев назад

    I feel like I keep getting short hop nair, even when I *know* I'm delaying it. I feel like I can hit it alot easier with a single button. What am I doing wrong?

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  10 месяцев назад

      you may be rushing it? or not slightly moving while you do the IDJ

  • @frankjoz2803
    @frankjoz2803 Год назад

    Oh my god he connected a perfect combo on a non moving cpu Bowser. Never seen that before!

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад +17

      You can make CPUs DI out of combos in every way with the training mod, but I'm not surprised you didn't know that. Remember to like and subscribe! :)

  • @ChauNeee
    @ChauNeee 8 дней назад +1

    Failed to mention when to fastfall

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  8 дней назад +1

      @@ChauNeee you can figure it out! 🥳🥳🥳

    • @LanzTheMaster
      @LanzTheMaster 8 дней назад +1

      @@treehouse_ttv lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooo

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  8 дней назад

      @@LanzTheMaster BRUH LMAOOOO🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @balls.g
    @balls.g 8 месяцев назад

    turn music down

  • @HydraWut68
    @HydraWut68 6 месяцев назад

    Is this possible when you dont have a pro controller and play with the original controllers that are on the switch?

    • @NoobieIsCool
      @NoobieIsCool 6 месяцев назад

      yes it is possible but if u do use joycons i recommend the R or L button as jump cuz they click in faster

    • @HydraWut68
      @HydraWut68 6 месяцев назад

      @@NoobieIsCool oh thank you that helps me so much 🤩

  • @gigaflare9710
    @gigaflare9710 Год назад

    Can I get some help with this, when I input the second hit nair it doesn’t come out, I just land. Any advice for this?

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад

      When trying to time it the second time, make sure you hit back ZL slightlyyyy before you hit nair. See if that helps! its tricky. you got this! 💫

    • @gigaflare9710
      @gigaflare9710 Год назад

      @@treehouse_ttv now I’m having trouble even getting idjs 💀
      Back to square one. I feel like I’m doing the input right, I don’t hold any buttons, I just get one short hop or full hop, any advice on the timing ( love your video it’s super helpful and actually teaches something to the viewer ❤️ )

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  Год назад

      @@gigaflare9710 thank you SO much for the comment! 💙💖 means the world and so glad its helpful. dont give up! 💫

  • @EpicMinecraftFail
    @EpicMinecraftFail Год назад

    Did the nair get nerfed or something i always do 8.7%

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  10 месяцев назад

      nope, just try to double tap jump so you can see that correct percent

  • @jpc7795
    @jpc7795 Год назад

    Hey treehouse, I'm in a trick situation, I may not be able to attend you or your freinds stream for a long time. Pls understand and I will *return*

  • @AbimayoXD
    @AbimayoXD Год назад

    How do you idj but stay close to the ground?

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  10 месяцев назад +1

      just try to IDJ as soon as possible. its tricky at first

    • @AbimayoXD
      @AbimayoXD 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@treehouse_ttv Thank you

  • @seandavis8213
    @seandavis8213 Год назад

    Gotta improve your mic audio brotha, hard to hear and I got my volume all the way up.

  • @drifty1523
    @drifty1523 8 месяцев назад

    are you using a pro controller ? im using a power A and it seems to be struggling with the instant double jump inputs

  • @SuperMarioInRealLife
    @SuperMarioInRealLife Год назад

    Bro I use default controls and I tried to use bumper as jump
    Wait wtf???? You just tapped jump twice to do IDJ fair??? It never works for me when I do it, I just tap jump forward jump and attack is what my inputs to IDJ fair 🥲

  • @peacedud
    @peacedud Год назад

    I do it but the fast fall is my problem do you know how I can fix that?

    • @treehouse_ttv
      @treehouse_ttv  10 месяцев назад

      just try to do the IDJ in place and make sure the timing is consistent!

    • @peacedud
      @peacedud 6 месяцев назад

      @@treehouse_ttvalr