Ramleh is so strangely beautiful. It’s interesting how these harsh noises somehow make such a vast, spacious atmosphere. It works as ambient music in a really interesting way.
I should have mentioned that Ramleh’s original ‘Hole in the Heart’ cassette release was the tracks on the second disc of the release. I ended up talking about the first disc far more, oops 😬 Also, Clipping track that includes the Whitehouse sample is called ‘Wriggle’ not ‘Eel’
I would also add that the vocals on "Why You Never Became a Dancer" and "Wriggle Like a Fucking Eel" are actually performed by Philip Best, whose vocal timbre is shriller than Bennett's and even more of an acquired taste.
@@ConvincingPeople wait i just listened to bird seed and mummy and daddy so i dont know how to differentiate their voices but i always saw credit only for bennetts vocals in every review i read? are there any songs (not necessarily bird seed or mummy and daddy) that have bennetts vocals? or live performances on yt?
@@qriofficial1769 "Harsh, distorted walls of sound that feature few dynamic variations and often take the form of long compositions with little to no change or progression over time." -from Rate your Music
Music can be anything, from *Johann Sebastian Bach* to most random water drops heard from a gutter, from trees, asphalt, etc. I reminisce the times where me and my sister were trying to make music off from the roof which was partly damaged, so, we had to put buckets all over the place. Some were made from glass, others from plastic. Each drop sounded quite differently, we tried to improvise throughout the entire experience by including some instruments, basically anything from field recordings to any natural sound collage that we could ever find, including; any wooden materials, plates, bottles, and whatnot. It was happy and grievous experience as a whole, but the only thing that really break my heart was that it wouldn't have lasted forever, we knew, we had nothing to record the whole process, so, it slowly disintegrated by itself. We were at our grandfather's village, it was probably 2000 or 1999, not quite sure, but it was a long fucking time ago.😄
Moozy I am reminded of how Dominick Fernow talks in a recent interview with Noisextra about how he recorded much of the first few Prurient albums using his mother's tape recorder from journalism school, which had a built-in speaker as well as a microphone which could be switched on at the same time to create feedback, and how to record the vocals specifically he would stick his head and the mic inside a washing machine and just scream. Likewise, his girlfriend at the time had an industrial project of sorts which was oriented around the sounds of the equipment on her parent's farm, the sound of the machinery and her and her younger siblings using tools as percussion. That whole experience of realising that things make sounds in ways you wouldn't expect and turning that into a musical experience, a whole sound-world.
I have synesthesia, being able to see sound as colours and constantly shifting patterns. I started off as a kid listening to New Romantic, then post-punk, then industrial, before ending up with power electronics. With constant smatterings of jazz, trip hop, shoegaze, and ambient music. I'm constantly looking for sounds I've never 'seen' before. It's funny, but Whitehouse and some of Dominic Furnow's material seems quite similar to Miles Davis' 'Bitches Brew' etc to my eyes and ears.
Have you ever listened to Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band? If yes, I wonder what the hell do you see or what kind of experience do you get when you listen to that, lol😂
Strangely relatable, at least to me personally. Hope you find many more of these new sensations, I know how hard it is to find something new once you start digging for a while. In case you haven't had the chance already I highly recommend Nurse with Wound's Yon Assasin Is My Equal track from Surveillance Lounge album. Be sure to listen to it on your headphones and without any interruption. All the best.
You should check out Voice Crack; a swiss electronic free improvisation group where the members started out as free-jazz players who slowly verged into using circuit-bending electronics from everyday objects like radios, turntables, transmitters, dictating machines etc. They manage to create "voices" out of these objects as if they were still playing their original formal instruments.
You never fail to amaze me with your incredibly vast knowledge of music Oliver! I'm interested, how much time do you think you spend listening to music a day? On average anyway
Regarding Whitehouse's extreme lyrics: I think "Cut Hands Has the Solution" from Bird Seed is one of the best tracks to look at when exploring how William Bennett handles his subject matter, and why it is more than just shock factor. I'm sure you're familiar with the contents of the song, Oliver, but please allow me to elaborate anyway. In it, Bennett confronts a figure he refers to as "knuckle-knicks" about his habit of cutting himself. He criticises and ridicules the cutting, all the while making fun of him and insulting him. He says "I'll still tell you, it's helping. I'll still tell you, you're doing the right thing," which implies he won't stop him from harming himself at all. Bennett revels in this violent imagery all throughout the song, as in many other Whitehouse songs of course. To me, it's catharsis through vulgarness. We hear Bennett say some of the nastiest things you could possibly tell anyone, but everytime this track has finished without fail I feel like Bennett has done me a favour by yelling all these obscenities. He takes his listeners through some of the darkest corners of human psyche and holds our hand along the way, showcasing it as if asking "What's to stop us? Why not be violent? Why not feed each other to the birds, huh?" Of course, no one in their right mind will commit the various acts he suggests, like cutting ourselves until we expose pieces of bone, but he leaves us mentally shattered just by bringing it up and describing it in detail. And I think the precision in his lyricism that allows him to evoke such strong reactions make the difference between pure shock factor and actual, valuable art.
John Zee I actually think Kevin Tomkins' later Sutcliffe Jügend lyrics do this even more acutely and with even more pathos, which might seem ironic given how he was responsible for some of Whitehouse's bluntest and most savage early tracks ("Right to Kill", "Queen Myra"), but yields some really eerie and even heart-wrenching results on albums like The Hunger and Relentless. Check out "Dissonance" and "Author's Note" from the former and "Different (I Am a Slave)" and "My Black Bones" from the latter if you don't believe me. Mind you, this is no shade towards William Bennett, whose work I do respect greatly, but the level of finesse and empathy and raw pain in Tomkins' recent lyrics is hard to match.
I think Bennett does what shocking art does, the point is to shock, to disgust, to think. Bennett, unlike his peer Sotos, does a great job of painting how contrasting a vile, yet easily accessible, mindset of awful people is to reach. Bennett's purpose is to be uncomfortable, and to be unenjoyable, whilst to a degree accessible (otherwise people would avoid), whereas Sotos blurs the lines so far, it is unable to distinguish from satire.
That's more or less how I reacted to "Cut Hands has the Solution" myself - I discovered Whitehouse during a particularly low point in my life, for better or worse, so while I never went that far myself, I FELT that song. Fun Challenge: Listen to "Cut Hands..." back to back with Rhianna's "Woo" That is a WILD juxtaposition, but at face value sounds ridiculous.
Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas MGLA - Exercises in Futility Batushka - Litourgiya Marduk - Panzer Division Marduk Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Might not listen to all of these albums but I really respect the way that you go into not only the history, but the vivid descriptions of the music that MAKE me want to listen to them. Major kudos dude
You should do one on free jazz, or avant garde jazz. I also reccomend searching indonesian folk music if you are interested. I personnaly feel that indonesian folk music is extremely underrated.
This is actually abit of a weird pick, but i reccomend OOIOO - Gamel. It isnt strictly indonesian folk, hell its technically a japanese noise rock album. But its a good starting point for many people as its actually fuses many sounds of traditional gamelan and angklung music with noticable sounds for many people. As for albums which are strictly indonesian traditional, i dont exactly have a album. But i reccomend searching for compilations of indonesian gamelan and angklung folks songs online or even on physical copies. I personaly am able to easily physical copies of compilations, but mileage may vary due to place. (i live in jakarta) Sorry for the weird starting point, but thats how i personaly got into indonesian folk, but i bet there are more qualified people out there as i to am starting out my journey into indonesian folk.
I don't know very much about it either, I just like how the singing sounds. You find some traditional throat singing on RUclips, but I don't know bands who make such music. Two bands who fuse the traditional Tuvan music with modern or experimental elements are Yat-Kha and Huun-Huur-Tu.
I still think one of the more solid PE records I've had was Consumer Electronic's Crowd Pleaser. Fantastically-articulated noise and immensely powerful lyrics... with the benefit of Philip Best on vocal duty:)
Birdseed and many other Whitehouse albums are a hardcore reawakening and strengthening of empathic circuits that too often get buried or unwired due to the common desensitization many of us go through. Birdseed, Cruise, and Mummy and Daddy, throw everything at you and tear that scar open to remind you just how awful it can be for victims, families and communities to go through these things. I remember tearing up listening to some of those testimonies. “How can you just use em up and throw em away?” The little boy screaming when asked if he wants to go home to see his dad. The little girl pleading for help with the dispatcher, crying “he just knocked my sister out!” It’s horrific but it makes many of us more empathetic because of it.
Would be interesting to hear Oliver and the community's thoughts on S.P.K's 1982 masterpiece, Leichenschrei. Still the most unsettling album I've ever heard, right next to anything ever put out by Whitehouse, Genocide Organ, Prurient, etc. While not Power Electronics, it is noisy industrial mayhem at its absolute bloody finest. One that descends further and further into madness as its runtime continues. Personal all-time favourite
Shevek Just saw this clip and can ONLY conclude as well as agree upon the comment above, Leichenschrei ought to be included, here or onto your ‘5 Industrial albums-list’ at least. Otherwise another exhilarating and nostalgic trip down memory lane. Great job junior! Continuously amazed and astonished by your dedication and truth worthiness on these matters of these ‘obsolete’ subcultures and (trying to) bringing them back up up again.
Send her the Sutcliffe Jugend album We Spit on Their Graves to give her a real challenge. 10 hours of power electronics inspired by the killings of Peter Sutcliffe. Each individual tape is named after one of his victims (i.e. the first tape is called Anna Rouglsky). Brutal, but fun, stuff.
Shout out to you, Oliver. I know it is very hard for some of the people to even have a "glance" of Power Electronics, but once you're hooked in it, there's this indescribable beauty that lies beneath the vast layers of throbbing noise, feedback, and buzzing static. One man's meat is another man's poison, one man's noise is another man's music in motion.
Does 5 years even count as being late to the party? I love your channel, shining some light on the more outre postcodes of music. I grew up with great Peel and then as now, I enjoy watching deep cuts late in the day. Your last recommendation in this show, Black vase piqued my interest and holy fuck buttons, you were spot on. Having just “ listened” to it, I feel somewhat different than before. Strangely though, I filed my VAT Returns while it was “playing” and I managed to complete them first time without a single error. So many thanks for that. Good work fella
I met William Bennett after one of the last whitehouse gigs In Manchester in 2008 and asked him why he was quitting. He replied “He has enough to retire to his house in France” I wish I’d asked him where he got his samples!
i really love your enthusiasm when talking about this! it makes me very happy to see someone else into this genre; i haven’t come across many others like you! thank you for making this. :-)
Listened to G.R. And I can say I felt genuine fear, the album made me feel very unsafe but I feel like I needed that because that’s something I haven’t felt in a while blood pressure dropped and everything I never expected music to ever make me feel such a way granted it ruined my new music discovery kick for the day but I welcomed it for sure, definitely a needed experience
Im glad you mentioned the synth deathpile used. I feel when you learn about the gear a lot of noise and power electronics artists use the develope an appreciation for the work that goes into the style
Always glad when one of your videos doesn’t just tell me about albums I already love, especially with a genre as close to my heart as power electronics. I had completely forgotten about Hunting Lodge, and I don’t think I’ve ever heard this version of Hole In The Heart; it’s usually at the end of a chronological playlist of Broken Flag releases, which always ends up a very difficult, lengthy listen what with Ramlehs like 7 live tapes (and a lot of the label’s releases are real solid misses as well). Also I keep periodically adding G.R. to ITunes but never get around to listening to it, I’ll make sure I do since you’re the umpteenth person that’s told me it’s amazing. So I got three new albums from you in a genre I thought I had stripmined, thank you!
Originally went searching for supplementary material on power conversion electronics for my electrical engineering degree at OSU, stayed for the sick ass music
Pharmakon is also a great entry point to PE, as is the case for me. Certainly more accessible (and more widely known given the coverage towards her albums) than the ones listed here. A great contemporary entry in this genre.
Loving that ramleh release. Also, I gotta say in surprised you went with black vase instead of one of prurient's newer releases. I think frozen niagara falls is one of the best intros into noise music in general. I mean, you even pointed out how hard black vase is to listen to. Frozen Niagara falls is still intense but at least gives moments of reprieve.
dalton fordyce I would say "The Black Vase" is something of a reprieve insofar as it is basically a dark ambient track, and I actually find "Roman Shower" really meditative and almost beautiful, but I am a super weird person.
lol i’m a little late to this one. LOVE prurient & Dominic’s other works. Bloodyminded is another amazing p.e. band. Brighter death now is pretty intense but if we’re splitting hairs, his work is more death industrial. great vid thanks!!
After watching this video as part of a particularly weird youtube journey, I've discovered that Hunting Lodge's "Will" is one of the best things I've ever heard. I'm not super into PE, but I do listen to a lot of noisy older industrial to begin with, so this was a natural fit for me. Thanks!
I never knew that Merzbow contributed to Will. Makes me times more interested about that album. Also, I can't wait for that future Merzbow-related video. Hole In The Heart is a really great album, but I'm rarely in the mood for that dystopian, melancholic feel. I might be a sick fuck for thinking this, but I'm a bit surprised you didn't mention a comical aspect to Bird Seed. A few weeks ago I had a conversation with a friend of mine who's a fan of Whitehouse and when I told him that I can't take Bennett's screaming with his thick British accent all that seriously, and because of that the overblown brutality seems somewhat ridiculous, he replied that he thinks it was intentional. We agreed that there had to be some intended morbid humor to lines like "May I suggest you.. GET FUCKED", or "What did you want to be when you grew up? Certainly not raped". Good video as always.
Although I've heard a fair bit of power electronics and is certainly not new to me I'd never heard Ramleh's Hole In The Heart before. Immense piece of work! Just staggering!
Jon Cooper I would love that but he'd have to ignore singles and EPs entirely and probably cut most of his collaborations, splits and cassette albums just for the sake of not taking god even knows how long just to make it to Black Vase.
Señor Everything Three of the most essential acts in the genre (Current 93, Death in June, Sol Invictus) all shared key members at different points early on, which feels a bit like cheating even though all of them have released absolutely essential and wildly diverse records in that style. In terms of acts on that level, though, the one outside that sphere of mutual influence which first springs to mind is Rome. Beyond that, it kind of depends on what you define as neofolk and what one considers essential in the genre, not to mention just how politically dodgy one is willing to go. Novy Svet are worth a shout, for sure, but is Bonny "Prince" Billy a neofolk artist? Are Blood Axis too sketchy to cover? Changes were hugely influential, but their founder is an actual fascist. And so on.
Señor Everything I mean, if we skirt over the whole membership thing, it shakes out much more easily: Current 93's Swastikas for Noddy (the original "apocalyptic folk" record), Death in June's Brown Book, Sol Invictus' The Blade and Rome's Flowers from Exile all immediately come to mind as either classics of the genre or too important to ignore, at least to my mind. But that's missing a fifth, and if we really wanted to cover everything comprehensively, we'd definitely need more than five. Neofolk artists rarely have small discographies.
i listened to the deathpile album I never felt so bad than listening to this album, seriously. the letters and all the noise made me feel a horrible and endless agony, but for some reason I couldn't stop listening When the album ended, I was in shock, and I never heard it again (I loved having this experience, honestly, it was very different, I never felt that way) I won't listen to this album anymore, the first experience was genuine, I don't want to ruin it
Fucking album sucks. Boring noise, boring concept, shitty execution. Only song that’s good at all is the last one, and that one is mid as fuck too. Nicole 12 is all the things deathpile does but better, more heartbreaking, more nauseating, and better produced. Even then, after the fifth or sixth serial killer/rapist album, the formula gets old.
Just discovered the channel, and I just watched your industrial video. Interestingly, I went from Skinny Puppy's 'Too Dark Park' in the 90's to discovering power electronics acts like Brighter Death Now and Genocide Organ. I'm sure you've discovered it already, but William Bennet's Cut Hands project is quite interesting, being influenced by Haitian Vodou/Voodoo.
Great stuff! Not sure if it is quite Power Electronics, but the artist M.B. did a remarkable noise/industrial record called "Symphony for a Genocide", with a track for each of the key death camps of the Nazis (Sobibor, Treblinka, etc.). It is quite remarkable, and he worked close to some of the early pioneers of PE. Thanks for including this sort of music among more mainstream artists.
Later whitehouse was definitely more conceptually rich, as you said. The early stuff felt like novelty, noise for noises sake but after “great white death” they definitely matured !
Will is an incredibly underrated album by an even _more_ underrated artist, so I'm glad to see it get more exposure here, but I really don't see how it's PE at all.
Hi Oliver. Great selection. I appreciate that this is just a selection of primer material to get people interested but you WOULD NOT BELIEVE THE GRIEF I AM GETTING FROM PE FANBOYS ON THE WHITEHOUSE FB PAGE. They are complaining that Ramleh are Death Industrial. It’s enough to make you weep.
Awesome video! Man you could totally do a little video on Gaika's new album Basic Volume. It is very well rated on Metascore but nobody talked about it on youtube and I couldn't find anything on Pitchfork either. It's super interesting dark electronic music with dancehall vocals. Reminds me of a couple of songs by Tricky. Would be right up your alley!
Dude I accidentally stumbled upon that Prurient album on Spotify and was blown away, absolutely brilliant. Didn't know it was part of a bigger genre, thanks for the recommendations Oliver!
I always described Whitehouse as "You are strapped to a chair and a man is beating you over and over with a lead pipe, screaming at you as he spins around you hitting you, then all of a sudden around the end it makes sense."
I am oozed into Will. Amazing album. I guess it is on softer and lighter side of recommendations. Oddly I am both relaxed and tensed by it. Feels very phantasmagoric. I have no thoughts of switching it off, coz it is scary or disgusting to listen to. Yes, it is a bit unsettling to listen to, especially as I am alone at night in a dark room, listening to it... Still, it gives a pleasant thrill. No more no less. What I didn't expect were some rhythmic parts, similar to Deflagration of Hell, if you know it. I don't know whether Oliver will read it, or whoever will, I post my thoughts on the subject anyway. Maybe some people will find it interesting. So I will comment on other albums too. P.S. As much as I like it and as limited my knowledge is on this genre, still it doesn't feel like PE.
I checked the description before watching to listen to one choice beforehand and chose the deathpile album. That shit fucked me up chief, also inadvertently found a clipping. Samples original track. Disturbing but great album, thanks for the rec!
Really hope you get to do all that extra stuff with the Patreon support. World music is something I've been really interested in learning so that'd be awesome.
RAMLEH is one of my favourite bands ! Been collecting there albums for years ! Still slogging away at there discography but there stuff is sometimes expensive! So i can only get stuff now and again ! I know there not traditional power electronics but check out skullflower!!!!
I'd love to see some more 5 album lists for some more niche genres! Psych/Avant Folk, Dark Ambient, maybe a guide to Bang in a Can's personnel and musical theory? Super proud of you and of Deep Cuts!
Ramleh is so strangely beautiful. It’s interesting how these harsh noises somehow make such a vast, spacious atmosphere. It works as ambient music in a really interesting way.
I should have mentioned that Ramleh’s original ‘Hole in the Heart’ cassette release was the tracks on the second disc of the release. I ended up talking about the first disc far more, oops 😬
Also, Clipping track that includes the Whitehouse sample is called ‘Wriggle’ not ‘Eel’
Wriggle is indeed a banger, I didn't know it was from the Whitehouse sample so that's cool to learn
I would also add that the vocals on "Why You Never Became a Dancer" and "Wriggle Like a Fucking Eel" are actually performed by Philip Best, whose vocal timbre is shriller than Bennett's and even more of an acquired taste.
You should have also mentioned clipping sampled deathpile's "Shrine" for "body and blood" off the CLPPNG album
Florencio Interesting, didn’t know that 👍
@@ConvincingPeople wait i just listened to bird seed and mummy and daddy so i dont know how to differentiate their voices but i always saw credit only for bennetts vocals in every review i read? are there any songs (not necessarily bird seed or mummy and daddy) that have bennetts vocals? or live performances on yt?
Noise, Harsh Noise, Power Electronics, Death Industrial and Harsh Noise Wall are all different
and they're all necessary listening!
there's some absolute gems in each subgenre
you forgot about rhythmic noise
What is Harsh Noise Wall
@@qriofficial1769 "Harsh, distorted walls of sound that feature few dynamic variations and often take the form of long compositions with little to no change or progression over time." -from Rate your Music
Music can be anything, from *Johann Sebastian Bach* to most random water drops heard from a gutter, from trees, asphalt, etc. I reminisce the times where me and my sister were trying to make music off from the roof which was partly damaged, so, we had to put buckets all over the place. Some were made from glass, others from plastic. Each drop sounded quite differently, we tried to improvise throughout the entire experience by including some instruments, basically anything from field recordings to any natural sound collage that we could ever find, including; any wooden materials, plates, bottles, and whatnot. It was happy and grievous experience as a whole, but the only thing that really break my heart was that it wouldn't have lasted forever, we knew, we had nothing to record the whole process, so, it slowly disintegrated by itself. We were at our grandfather's village, it was probably 2000 or 1999, not quite sure, but it was a long fucking time ago.😄
I'd have liked to hear that
The times we never hit record, make them even more beautiful. You got to experience it in the moment.
Moozy I am reminded of how Dominick Fernow talks in a recent interview with Noisextra about how he recorded much of the first few Prurient albums using his mother's tape recorder from journalism school, which had a built-in speaker as well as a microphone which could be switched on at the same time to create feedback, and how to record the vocals specifically he would stick his head and the mic inside a washing machine and just scream. Likewise, his girlfriend at the time had an industrial project of sorts which was oriented around the sounds of the equipment on her parent's farm, the sound of the machinery and her and her younger siblings using tools as percussion. That whole experience of realising that things make sounds in ways you wouldn't expect and turning that into a musical experience, a whole sound-world.
I have synesthesia, being able to see sound as colours and constantly shifting patterns. I started off as a kid listening to New Romantic, then post-punk, then industrial, before ending up with power electronics. With constant smatterings of jazz, trip hop, shoegaze, and ambient music. I'm constantly looking for sounds I've never 'seen' before. It's funny, but Whitehouse and some of Dominic Furnow's material seems quite similar to Miles Davis' 'Bitches Brew' etc to my eyes and ears.
Have you ever listened to Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band? If yes, I wonder what the hell do you see or what kind of experience do you get when you listen to that, lol😂
@@lukeizabelle2131 He won't respond- he can't smell your comment. He responds only to comments he can smell.
Strangely relatable, at least to me personally. Hope you find many more of these new sensations, I know how hard it is to find something new once you start digging for a while. In case you haven't had the chance already I highly recommend Nurse with Wound's Yon Assasin Is My Equal track from Surveillance Lounge album. Be sure to listen to it on your headphones and without any interruption. All the best.
You should check out Voice Crack; a swiss electronic free improvisation group where the members started out as free-jazz players who slowly verged into using circuit-bending electronics from everyday objects like radios, turntables, transmitters, dictating machines etc. They manage to create "voices" out of these objects as if they were still playing their original formal instruments.
Listen to my magic is strong by bladee and holdmedownlikegravity by ecco2k their music is amazing
You never fail to amaze me with your incredibly vast knowledge of music Oliver! I'm interested, how much time do you think you spend listening to music a day? On average anyway
Regarding Whitehouse's extreme lyrics: I think "Cut Hands Has the Solution" from Bird Seed is one of the best tracks to look at when exploring how William Bennett handles his subject matter, and why it is more than just shock factor. I'm sure you're familiar with the contents of the song, Oliver, but please allow me to elaborate anyway.
In it, Bennett confronts a figure he refers to as "knuckle-knicks" about his habit of cutting himself. He criticises and ridicules the cutting, all the while making fun of him and insulting him. He says "I'll still tell you, it's helping. I'll still tell you, you're doing the right thing," which implies he won't stop him from harming himself at all. Bennett revels in this violent imagery all throughout the song, as in many other Whitehouse songs of course.
To me, it's catharsis through vulgarness. We hear Bennett say some of the nastiest things you could possibly tell anyone, but everytime this track has finished without fail I feel like Bennett has done me a favour by yelling all these obscenities. He takes his listeners through some of the darkest corners of human psyche and holds our hand along the way, showcasing it as if asking "What's to stop us? Why not be violent? Why not feed each other to the birds, huh?" Of course, no one in their right mind will commit the various acts he suggests, like cutting ourselves until we expose pieces of bone, but he leaves us mentally shattered just by bringing it up and describing it in detail. And I think the precision in his lyricism that allows him to evoke such strong reactions make the difference between pure shock factor and actual, valuable art.
John Zee I actually think Kevin Tomkins' later Sutcliffe Jügend lyrics do this even more acutely and with even more pathos, which might seem ironic given how he was responsible for some of Whitehouse's bluntest and most savage early tracks ("Right to Kill", "Queen Myra"), but yields some really eerie and even heart-wrenching results on albums like The Hunger and Relentless. Check out "Dissonance" and "Author's Note" from the former and "Different (I Am a Slave)" and "My Black Bones" from the latter if you don't believe me. Mind you, this is no shade towards William Bennett, whose work I do respect greatly, but the level of finesse and empathy and raw pain in Tomkins' recent lyrics is hard to match.
I think Bennett does what shocking art does, the point is to shock, to disgust, to think. Bennett, unlike his peer Sotos, does a great job of painting how contrasting a vile, yet easily accessible, mindset of awful people is to reach. Bennett's purpose is to be uncomfortable, and to be unenjoyable, whilst to a degree accessible (otherwise people would avoid), whereas Sotos blurs the lines so far, it is unable to distinguish from satire.
Insightful, thanks for sharing
That's more or less how I reacted to "Cut Hands has the Solution" myself - I discovered Whitehouse during a particularly low point in my life, for better or worse, so while I never went that far myself, I FELT that song.
Fun Challenge: Listen to "Cut Hands..." back to back with Rhianna's "Woo"
That is a WILD juxtaposition, but at face value sounds ridiculous.
That track really has a special place...@@paulyearley1084
Not sure if you have done this but a ‘5 Albums to get you into Black Metal’ would be great.
VB MUTT big facts
PLEASE DO
VB MUTT yes
+asonantica you underestimate black metal
Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
MGLA - Exercises in Futility
Batushka - Litourgiya
Marduk - Panzer Division Marduk
Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Shout out to the Patrons!
I went and listened to some of this stuff and honestly it gave me one the best musical experiences of my life.Thanks Oliver!
Nice picture
Might not listen to all of these albums but I really respect the way that you go into not only the history, but the vivid descriptions of the music that MAKE me want to listen to them. Major kudos dude
Can you do an artist guide on Xiu Xiu at some point? Thx for the consistently quality content!
I'm actually from Port Huron which is the town Hunting Lodge started. It's pretty damn neat to see my hometown get repped.
You should do one on free jazz, or avant garde jazz. I also reccomend searching indonesian folk music if you are interested. I personnaly feel that indonesian folk music is extremely underrated.
A video about folk music from different regions would be interesting. I like for example Tuvan throat singing.
This is actually abit of a weird pick, but i reccomend OOIOO - Gamel.
It isnt strictly indonesian folk, hell its technically a japanese noise rock album. But its a good starting point for many people as its actually fuses many sounds of traditional gamelan and angklung music with noticable sounds for many people. As for albums which are strictly indonesian traditional, i dont exactly have a album. But i reccomend searching for compilations of indonesian gamelan and angklung folks songs online or even on physical copies. I personaly am able to easily physical copies of compilations, but mileage may vary due to place. (i live in jakarta)
Sorry for the weird starting point, but thats how i personaly got into indonesian folk, but i bet there are more qualified people out there as i to am starting out my journey into indonesian folk.
Man, i could never get into throat singing...
Where do you think i should start?
I don't know very much about it either, I just like how the singing sounds. You find some traditional throat singing on RUclips, but I don't know bands who make such music. Two bands who fuse the traditional Tuvan music with modern or experimental elements are Yat-Kha and Huun-Huur-Tu.
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Honestly, a great video, i especially loved the comparison of PE to spicy food, it hurts so much but just in the right way :D
5 albums to get you into nursery rhymes
Lmao
Do a genre guide for Slowcore
Low
Red House Painters
Codeine
Galaxie 500
Songs: Ohia
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@@BIadelores don't forget about duster
I still think one of the more solid PE records I've had was Consumer Electronic's Crowd Pleaser. Fantastically-articulated noise and immensely powerful lyrics... with the benefit of Philip Best on vocal duty:)
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Birdseed and many other Whitehouse albums are a hardcore reawakening and strengthening of empathic circuits that too often get buried or unwired due to the common desensitization many of us go through. Birdseed, Cruise, and Mummy and Daddy, throw everything at you and tear that scar open to remind you just how awful it can be for victims, families and communities to go through these things. I remember tearing up listening to some of those testimonies.
“How can you just use em up and throw em away?”
The little boy screaming when asked if he wants to go home to see his dad.
The little girl pleading for help with the dispatcher, crying “he just knocked my sister out!”
It’s horrific but it makes many of us more empathetic because of it.
Would be interesting to hear Oliver and the community's thoughts on S.P.K's 1982 masterpiece, Leichenschrei. Still the most unsettling album I've ever heard, right next to anything ever put out by Whitehouse, Genocide Organ, Prurient, etc. While not Power Electronics, it is noisy industrial mayhem at its absolute bloody finest. One that descends further and further into madness as its runtime continues. Personal all-time favourite
I think it's the best album of the "pure" industrial sound ever made.
Shevek Just saw this clip and can ONLY conclude as well as agree upon the comment above, Leichenschrei ought to be included, here or onto your ‘5 Industrial albums-list’ at least. Otherwise another exhilarating and nostalgic trip down memory lane. Great job junior!
Continuously amazed and astonished by your dedication and truth worthiness on these matters of these ‘obsolete’ subcultures and (trying to) bringing them back up up again.
Sent the Deathpile album to my gf cos she's obsessed with serial killers and all that. Thanks for the video
Has she checked out Church of Misery - The Second Coming? Each track is about a different serial killer.
Send her the Sutcliffe Jugend album We Spit on Their Graves to give her a real challenge. 10 hours of power electronics inspired by the killings of Peter Sutcliffe. Each individual tape is named after one of his victims (i.e. the first tape is called Anna Rouglsky). Brutal, but fun, stuff.
Look up the album Dahmer by Macabre
She into Acid Bath?
You either have a cool girlfriend or an awesome relationship. Either way, that's a win.
Shout out to you, Oliver. I know it is very hard for some of the people to even have a "glance" of Power Electronics, but once you're hooked in it, there's this indescribable beauty that lies beneath the vast layers of throbbing noise, feedback, and buzzing static. One man's meat is another man's poison, one man's noise is another man's music in motion.
I cannot wait for A Guide to Kate Bush! 😊
Same
Rajvi Parekh That would be a good addition.
Oh god I love Kate Bush
Same
YEEEESSSS
Does 5 years even count as being late to the party? I love your channel, shining some light on the more outre postcodes of music. I grew up with great Peel and then as now, I enjoy watching deep cuts late in the day. Your last recommendation in this show, Black vase piqued my interest and holy fuck buttons, you were spot on. Having just “ listened” to it, I feel somewhat different than before. Strangely though, I filed my VAT Returns while it was “playing” and I managed to complete them first time without a single error. So many thanks for that. Good work fella
I met William Bennett after one of the last whitehouse gigs In Manchester in 2008 and asked him why he was quitting. He replied “He has enough to retire to his house in France” I wish I’d asked him where he got his samples!
thanks man my wife left me after i played her bird seed
Your potted plant seems to have a mind of its own, it keeps on shaking its leaves.
i really love your enthusiasm when talking about this! it makes me very happy to see someone else into this genre; i haven’t come across many others like you! thank you for making this. :-)
You are sincerely my favorite youtuber and I think this channel you’re running is fantastic and I’m glad you’re sharing your musical knowledge
Listened to G.R. And I can say I felt genuine fear, the album made me feel very unsafe but I feel like I needed that because that’s something I haven’t felt in a while blood pressure dropped and everything I never expected music to ever make me feel such a way granted it ruined my new music discovery kick for the day but I welcomed it for sure, definitely a needed experience
cut hands has the solution is one of my fave songs in the world. love that album
Im glad you mentioned the synth deathpile used. I feel when you learn about the gear a lot of noise and power electronics artists use the develope an appreciation for the work that goes into the style
Always glad when one of your videos doesn’t just tell me about albums I already love, especially with a genre as close to my heart as power electronics. I had completely forgotten about Hunting Lodge, and I don’t think I’ve ever heard this version of Hole In The Heart; it’s usually at the end of a chronological playlist of Broken Flag releases, which always ends up a very difficult, lengthy listen what with Ramlehs like 7 live tapes (and a lot of the label’s releases are real solid misses as well). Also I keep periodically adding G.R. to ITunes but never get around to listening to it, I’ll make sure I do since you’re the umpteenth person that’s told me it’s amazing. So I got three new albums from you in a genre I thought I had stripmined, thank you!
surprised there is no mention of Sutcliffe Jugend.
Thank you for recommending Bird Seed. It changed my entire perspective on what music can be
Originally went searching for supplementary material on power conversion electronics for my electrical engineering degree at OSU, stayed for the sick ass music
Pharmakon is also a great entry point to PE, as is the case for me. Certainly more accessible (and more widely known given the coverage towards her albums) than the ones listed here. A great contemporary entry in this genre.
IamDangoFAN just started listening to pharmakon and a little before Lana del rabies which gives me similar vibes. Could you recommend more like her?
look up lingua ignota, a little closer to lana del rabies than pharmakon, but still really good
Tom Collins I love lingua I also need more like her!
Also Puce Mary!
Teodor Eliasson just listened to the spiral and I liked it a lot it kind of reminded me of ambient at some points. Thank you!
More recommendations: Genocide Organ and GRIM
Yep. Jun Konagaya's (Grim) solo stuff is excellent, too.
GRIM lowkey dropped the industrial AOTD (Maha)
Dissecting Table, IRM, Grey Wolves, Genocide Organ, Brighter Death Now, I could go on and on
Totally.G.O or Anenzephalia.
Genocide organ is hellish
Bird Seed is an amazing record, the lyricism is incredible
Loving that ramleh release.
Also, I gotta say in surprised you went with black vase instead of one of prurient's newer releases. I think frozen niagara falls is one of the best intros into noise music in general. I mean, you even pointed out how hard black vase is to listen to. Frozen Niagara falls is still intense but at least gives moments of reprieve.
dalton fordyce I would have gone for History it AIDS or Point and Void (the CD remix).
dalton fordyce I would say "The Black Vase" is something of a reprieve insofar as it is basically a dark ambient track, and I actually find "Roman Shower" really meditative and almost beautiful, but I am a super weird person.
As a power electronics fan this couldn’t have been more on point as always hat off to you sir much love
Please do a guide to Coil thanks
Agreed. Or even that whole Coil/C93/NWW scene.
England's Hidden Reverse is a great book on that topic.
Yeah, I've read it. Really enjoyed it.
Coil are Gods
i'll second that.
lol i’m a little late to this one. LOVE prurient & Dominic’s other works. Bloodyminded is another amazing p.e. band. Brighter death now is pretty intense but if we’re splitting hairs, his work is more death industrial. great vid thanks!!
Death Industrial is more interesting for me, tbh.
i woke up wishing you would upload another video bc im super stressed and i needed some interesting stuff to survive, thanks oliver :)
After watching this video as part of a particularly weird youtube journey, I've discovered that Hunting Lodge's "Will" is one of the best things I've ever heard. I'm not super into PE, but I do listen to a lot of noisy older industrial to begin with, so this was a natural fit for me. Thanks!
Another great video. I was unaware of the genre and these artists with the exception of Prurient who appears to be quite prolific.
WHITEHOUSE and RAMLEH. Absolute favs
Can you pls make more videos about them?
I never knew that Merzbow contributed to Will. Makes me times more interested about that album. Also, I can't wait for that future Merzbow-related video.
Hole In The Heart is a really great album, but I'm rarely in the mood for that dystopian, melancholic feel.
I might be a sick fuck for thinking this, but I'm a bit surprised you didn't mention a comical aspect to Bird Seed. A few weeks ago I had a conversation with a friend of mine who's a fan of Whitehouse and when I told him that I can't take Bennett's screaming with his thick British accent all that seriously, and because of that the overblown brutality seems somewhat ridiculous, he replied that he thinks it was intentional. We agreed that there had to be some intended morbid humor to lines like "May I suggest you.. GET FUCKED", or "What did you want to be when you grew up? Certainly not raped".
Good video as always.
Hole In The Heart is phenomenal, such an apocalyptic sounding record.
Cheers Deep Cuts. Honored to be included with such heavyweights.
Oh My Gosh, you said you would do a Kanye 2018 video. Wheres it at?? Good job on keeping the channel going btw
Although I've heard a fair bit of power electronics and is certainly not new to me I'd never heard Ramleh's Hole In The Heart before. Immense piece of work! Just staggering!
why didnt you mention playboi carti?
Kanye West too
@@itsenzo3000 nah kanye is atleast a little bit better
Power electronics is not hiphop genre
@@digitalbeat666not even drake?
@@digitalbeat666are you sure?
Would you be willing to do an artist's guide for Prurient?
Jon Cooper I would love that but he'd have to ignore singles and EPs entirely and probably cut most of his collaborations, splits and cassette albums just for the sake of not taking god even knows how long just to make it to Black Vase.
You did a great service for me as someone who just is tipping the toes into Noise / Post-Industrial etc. Thanxx man :-)
Have you considered a "5 albums to get you into Neofolk" ?
What's your 5?
Señor Everything Three of the most essential acts in the genre (Current 93, Death in June, Sol Invictus) all shared key members at different points early on, which feels a bit like cheating even though all of them have released absolutely essential and wildly diverse records in that style. In terms of acts on that level, though, the one outside that sphere of mutual influence which first springs to mind is Rome. Beyond that, it kind of depends on what you define as neofolk and what one considers essential in the genre, not to mention just how politically dodgy one is willing to go. Novy Svet are worth a shout, for sure, but is Bonny "Prince" Billy a neofolk artist? Are Blood Axis too sketchy to cover? Changes were hugely influential, but their founder is an actual fascist. And so on.
@@ConvincingPeople soooo no definitive answer?
Sol invictus, death in June, current 93, cult of youth, maybe swans
Señor Everything I mean, if we skirt over the whole membership thing, it shakes out much more easily: Current 93's Swastikas for Noddy (the original "apocalyptic folk" record), Death in June's Brown Book, Sol Invictus' The Blade and Rome's Flowers from Exile all immediately come to mind as either classics of the genre or too important to ignore, at least to my mind. But that's missing a fifth, and if we really wanted to cover everything comprehensively, we'd definitely need more than five. Neofolk artists rarely have small discographies.
i love this channel, even when it's not discussing things i want to hear all too soon (ive been more instrumental for a long time)
"the guys hair reminds me of a bread roll"
- my gorlfrend.
still love ya DC!
Keep up the good work, man. One of my favorite channels on youtube by far
hole in the heart is an absolute classic.
havent been able to stop listening to it for a long time
i listened to the deathpile album
I never felt so bad than listening to this album, seriously.
the letters and all the noise made me feel a horrible and endless agony, but for some reason I couldn't stop listening
When the album ended, I was in shock, and I never heard it again
(I loved having this experience, honestly, it was very different, I never felt that way)
I won't listen to this album anymore, the first experience was genuine, I don't want to ruin it
Fucking album sucks. Boring noise, boring concept, shitty execution. Only song that’s good at all is the last one, and that one is mid as fuck too. Nicole 12 is all the things deathpile does but better, more heartbreaking, more nauseating, and better produced. Even then, after the fifth or sixth serial killer/rapist album, the formula gets old.
sooo fucking dramatic LOL
@@expanderrra Yes.
Just discovered the channel, and I just watched your industrial video. Interestingly, I went from Skinny Puppy's 'Too Dark Park' in the 90's to discovering power electronics acts like Brighter Death Now and Genocide Organ. I'm sure you've discovered it already, but William Bennet's Cut Hands project is quite interesting, being influenced by Haitian Vodou/Voodoo.
controlled bleeding, consumer electronics and genocide organ def should be also mentioned ! great list man
The Sodality, Sutcliffe Jügend, Atrax Morgue, Slogun, Con-Dom, The Grey Wolves, Bizarre Uproar.
There are a lot of notable PE artists.
Great stuff! Not sure if it is quite Power Electronics, but the artist M.B. did a remarkable noise/industrial record called "Symphony for a Genocide", with a track for each of the key death camps of the Nazis (Sobibor, Treblinka, etc.). It is quite remarkable, and he worked close to some of the early pioneers of PE. Thanks for including this sort of music among more mainstream artists.
Maurizio Bianchi's early work is extremely cool. I love Mectpyo Blut.
Maria and the Mirrors - Vision Quest is a fantastic album that blends power electronics with club music. It even has William Bennett
Thank you- been looking for music with this approach for a while…
wow, i’m really interested in hearing these albums. great video per usual oliver
Was expecting Pharmakon to be here, but I'm a fan of this list all the same. Keep doing what you're doing man!
Himukalt sounds more aggressive and interesting.
Great vid! Hyped for A Guide to NIN!
Very good selection and well done on G R .... I think it is the most extreme album ever recorded!!!
Later whitehouse was definitely more conceptually rich, as you said. The early stuff felt like novelty, noise for noises sake but after “great white death” they definitely matured !
Will is an incredibly underrated album by an even _more_ underrated artist, so I'm glad to see it get more exposure here, but I really don't see how it's PE at all.
I've been making power electronics music for about 4 years now. I didn't know that power electronics was a genre until half a year ago.
Hi Oliver. Great selection. I appreciate that this is just a selection of primer material to get people interested but you WOULD NOT BELIEVE THE GRIEF I AM GETTING FROM PE FANBOYS ON THE WHITEHOUSE FB PAGE. They are complaining that Ramleh are Death Industrial. It’s enough to make you weep.
would love to see a guide to/albums to get you into first wave industrial- throbbing gristle, cabaret voltaire, einsturzende neubauten, etc
Man you deserve all the support. The passion you put into your vids really shines through. Good shit man.
Awesome video! Man you could totally do a little video on Gaika's new album Basic Volume. It is very well rated on Metascore but nobody talked about it on youtube and I couldn't find anything on Pitchfork either. It's super interesting dark electronic music with dancehall vocals. Reminds me of a couple of songs by Tricky. Would be right up your alley!
Ramleh is my fave. And Atrax Morgue!
Dude I accidentally stumbled upon that Prurient album on Spotify and was blown away, absolutely brilliant. Didn't know it was part of a bigger genre, thanks for the recommendations Oliver!
Power Electronics is just 1 of the many sides of Post-Industrial music.
Weirdly enough, Ramleh’s record kinda reminded me of Fennesz of all people, especially Black Sea. Excellent
Yeah, I was just looking for Power Electronics Lectures on RUclips.
Found this video and the way you explaining this is spectacular. New subscriber to you. Thanks for that great time.
I'm fan of Dead Voices on Air.... Freaking awesome some tracks can be hypnotic and relaxing.
>Mentions Akita
MERZBOW DISCOG VIDEO INCOMING YES YES YES
What I always admired about Ramleh was their psychedelic aspects, unique delayed vocals, and just musically in general
I always described Whitehouse as "You are strapped to a chair and a man is beating you over and over with a lead pipe, screaming at you as he spins around you hitting you, then all of a sudden around the end it makes sense."
Congrats for being able to keep going thanks to the donations!
Glad to see you enjoyed the list I wrote for Invisible Oranges!
P.S. ‘Will’ isn’t PE! :)
Im a huge fan of power electronics. Deathpile and Whitehouse being some of my favorites. I often put them on while lifting in the gym.
I am oozed into Will. Amazing album. I guess it is on softer and lighter side of recommendations. Oddly I am both relaxed and tensed by it. Feels very phantasmagoric. I have no thoughts of switching it off, coz it is scary or disgusting to listen to. Yes, it is a bit unsettling to listen to, especially as I am alone at night in a dark room, listening to it... Still, it gives a pleasant thrill. No more no less.
What I didn't expect were some rhythmic parts, similar to Deflagration of Hell, if you know it.
I don't know whether Oliver will read it, or whoever will, I post my thoughts on the subject anyway. Maybe some people will find it interesting. So I will comment on other albums too.
P.S. As much as I like it and as limited my knowledge is on this genre, still it doesn't feel like PE.
ramleh's sound reminds me of raison d'âitre's dark ambient a bit
I checked the description before watching to listen to one choice beforehand and chose the deathpile album. That shit fucked me up chief, also inadvertently found a clipping. Samples original track. Disturbing but great album, thanks for the rec!
Studied and eloquent. Thank you. Prurient Black Vase was one I did not have.
Excellent vid as always, never disappointed by your vids.
Really hope you get to do all that extra stuff with the Patreon support. World music is something I've been really interested in learning so that'd be awesome.
RAMLEH is one of my favourite bands ! Been collecting there albums for years ! Still slogging away at there discography but there stuff is sometimes expensive! So i can only get stuff now and again ! I know there not traditional power electronics but check out skullflower!!!!
I'd love to see some more 5 album lists for some more niche genres! Psych/Avant Folk, Dark Ambient, maybe a guide to Bang in a Can's personnel and musical theory? Super proud of you and of Deep Cuts!
This is fucking sick. Just listened to deathpile and I legitimately felt terrified. Amazing stuff, thank you.
The final boss of music
Thank you for the evening tunes, Mr Cuts.
damn Oliver your tinnitus must be brutal.
Good choices btw