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Logitech flight yoke system review - worth buying in 2020?
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- Опубликовано: 3 янв 2020
- Check out my latest video on the Logitech Flight Yoke System (Is it still worth it in 2021?) here:
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Really happy with my flight yoke system - share your views please!
BTW, for those of you who are OCD (like myself), I did reverse my course and Landed pretty much perfectly! ;)
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As no 5V 1.5A power supply is enclosed in the original flight yoke package, you can not use the system. In denmark we use power supplies with round "legs" opposed to UK and USA where square legs are used. I have not been able to find/purchase an adapter/power supply, which fit into the yoke. Is the necessary power supply available at all outside the UK and USA, in which case the flight yoke with accessories are totally useless in most of Europe, or is it just me who is wrong. Any suggestions or help pls as to solve my problem with the power supply??? Morten
I'll try and do some reserch into this for you - hoping somebody will see your comment and offer some insight!
@@Huddison Thks Looking fwd to your reply/result. I really need to solve this problem, otherwise I must scrap the whole flight system
@@mortenlundipsen6939 we'll try and solve it; have a great little helpful community here👍
I am guessing that the 5v PS is not necessary because yoke gets it power from the USB connection, provided that your PC has a hefty PS. But I am not sure what power requirement the yoke must have, and whether its requirement exceeds the USB ability in your particular PC to supply. Now if you're doing the BU0836 modification, you should use the external 5v PS, just to be sure. The 5v connection provided in the yoke housing is for the case you use add't USB devices that plug into the yoke. In other words, the external PS is only necessary when the yoke also functions as a USB hub. Another way to look at this is that a mfgr is unlikely to ship product without an AC adapter if it's truly necessary for that product to work.
@@fredflorist1682 That's actually something I overlooked, as I assumed the original poster had other peripherals connect to his yoke.
Ok I'm just going to say I absolutely love how his accent makes everything seem extremely positive, great review extremely helpful!
Wow thanks for the compliment;)
Good, honest review. I'm sold on this yoke system now knowing the dead zone issue can be fixed. You should consider upgrading to a bigger monitor if you want even better immersion before spending 1k pounds on that top of the line yoke you mentioned getting some day. I upgraded from a 27 inch to 32 and the difference is stunning.
My monitor looks quite small in this video, but it actually takes up a lot of my main immediate vision.
If anything, a curved monitor will one day be mine 😉
I just got mine and I LOVE it. I was flying with a Thrustmaster Cougar HOTAS and it was so squirrely it was impossible to do any precision flying. I just made a video where I took off and landed frim the smallest airport in the world. I NEVER could have done that with the Cougar, the precision required would have had me crash. I bought the Yoke, MFD panel, and the switch panel for the cost of the Honeycomb Yoke. I highly recommend it for people who are just getting into Flight Simulator like me.
Fantastic comment - thanks.
I have the Saitek version. Mine has a like a slight "sandy" feel when pushing forward/pulling backward. It has been a great unit - reliable and does the job. Looks like Logitech has fixed it. I've flown real planes and proper airline simulators, admittedly it does feel like a toy in comparison. The price point I'm not complaining. To complete my setup I purchased the Thrustmaster T-Flight pedals separately (on special 1/2 price at $99AUD), I originally wanted to buy the Saitek/Logitech pedals worth $250AUD. Whole setup is 3 years old.
Lucky! the Thrustmaster T-flight pedals are sold out everywhere and are being sold on ebay for $80+ the alternative is a $350 logitech rudder pedals
Good to see you reviewing again, another enjoyable honest review, I have the same yoke system although I haven't been doing much sim flying recently. Happy new year! - PS Love the opening logo.
Great to hear from you again and thanks for your kind comment. I'm back in my Flight Sim phase currently and really enjoying its return ;)
Huddison I love you ;)
@@nonami_066xswqoqowiwl why, thank you 😉
Huddison Stay safe , Hopefully quarantine ends soon :)
@@nonami_066xswqoqowiwl let's hope so, stay safe too😊
I recently purchased this yoke, managed to find it in stock and went for it. It's good, it does feel very very cheap and plastic, extremely light to what I thought it would be. But 100% more immersive compared to a joystick. Been using it for a few hours and it's a bit tricky to get used to coming from the joystick.
Congrats! Yes it's like chalk and cheese compared to using a joystick.
Excellent review mate - just bought mine and now waiting for FS2020. Just a point on the dead zone, as someone who has flown quite a few light aircraft, I don't necessarily think that that is a negative or a bad thing. Most 152's and especially the Traumahawk have fairly sloppy controls, especially due to age as rod and cable systems tend to develop some play on them. Do a crosswind landing and you will be moving those controls quite aggressively - if you can get used to that in a sim then that is a big win in my books.
Thanks and that's a great insight into the dead zone
5:14 you just have to put the dead zone to 0 and logitech have there own app and you can change the senstiy
That is great advice, thanks 😊
Where do i adjust the dead zone.
@@day-rz3en on your PC go to Google and download Logitech downloader I think and when you done that it will show you the yoke and you can change the settings there
Dylan J Eyres Thanks
Thank you :) I've been using the Win10 default drivers
Sorry for the long winded text below, but if you are a flight simulation pilot and a aviation enthusiast or wanting to make that next step into real world operations, I felt it was important to share my experience, on the flight simulation side of things.
As a longtime user for the Saitek yoke I got about 3 years of functionality out of it, and then the dead zones and such just where too much to be functional anymore. I gave up on the unit and use my X52 HOTOS System until I finally was able to buy the honeycomb flight yoke recently. Because now I have extended experience with the old Saitek flight yoke and about two weeks in with the honeycomb yoke, if you can afford it, do not waste your time and money on the Saitek yoke system (I do not know how to stress that enough). It is night & day difference between the two, and the extra $85.00 USD you spend on the honeycomb is well worth it and far superior. Yes you do not get a throttle quadrant, but I would go as far as saying using a keyboard if you had too, for throttle operations or by a USB saitek throttle quadrant as you're stepping stone to the honeycomb throttle quadrant that will be out sometime this year (rumor has it, the 25th of May 2020). I'm serious when I say the yoke from a honeycomb is that much better. Yes, your trade off of not having a throttle quadrant out a box, is switches that you get with a honeycomb aircraft start operations along with lighting.
Now in my case, I kept the old yoke and I'm using the throttle quadrant and disabled all the axises and buttons on the saitek flight yoke. Also I had another throttle quadrant that I bought originally with the saitek yoke system knowing that I would be doing twin engine operation. Over time I bought the rudder pedals which is I'm still using to this day that functions with no issues, and a Saitek Cessna nose trim. I highly recommend after buying honeycomb yoke, the next must have item is rudder pedals. This way you can develop your skills in coordination with your feet along with using the turn coordinator on the dash, as you do in the real aircraft.
Don't get me wrong, they throttle quadrant is important, but not as important as rudder pedals. I am looking forward with the release of the honeycomb throttle which will give you functions from single piston engine operation, all the way up to four engine jet operations. Along with nose wheel trim, autopilot functions, gear lever and flap operations. Yes you'll be spending $250 USD on this throttle, but it replaces saitek nose wheel trim, most of the functions of the saitek multifunction panel which is autopilot operations. Nose wheel trim was $99.00 USD and multifunction panel was $149 USD new. With a single throttle quadrant from saitek is $99.00 USD. That's roughly $350 USD with the saitek equipment, whereas the throttle quadrant from honeycomb does most of the functions with one unit (and more importantly one USB connection) for $250. Not to mention, the saitek drivers for the multifunction panel (autopilot operations) has not been updated since 2017, and as a X-Plane 10 & currently 11 user, the drivers are not very reliable, from my personal experience.
So to sum up, buy what ever rudder pedals you wish. Hands down, honeycomb yoke & throttle quadrant are the better way to go and after doing the math are cheaper, For multi engine operation. Cheers to you all and happy flying
Dion Markraf aka: Dionsol
X-Plane pilot since 2015 (flight simulation pilot since 1981) sublogic days on a commodore 64 :)
RUclips: #Dionm01
Thanks for your story and experience with the various flight instruments. The Honeycomb does look like a very good yoke indeed 😉
Excellent post. Thank you for sharing your insight.
I absolutely KNEW i shouldn't have followed your advice on the Hotas and yoke comparison vid and checked this one out, .... end result; well because I'm somewhat utterly totally broke 1. Mrs looked at me soft; I blamed you (twice in all honesty 😔) and 2. Twenty quid off and free express delivery - here Friday straight from logitec! 😁 cheers. (Bonus, in dog house = more flight time)
Nice! Let us know how you get along with it and you'll soon be released from the Dog house 😁
Just bought one of these on Newegg! Can't wait for it to arrive. Thanks for the review
Brilliant, enjoy and thanks 👍
How is it
For some reason I just got into flight games again, and now I’m considering one
I recommend it as a affordable first flight yoke.
I have two of them .Had them for 3 years.Modded both of them.Extended the the yoke on both 6 inches and used the rubber band mod on both.Almost as good as a yoko yoke.
Brilliant!
Thank you for information about dead zone, its an important issue for me. And if i didnt hear it, i would be bought and have to send back this product just for that.
It's hardly noticeable in MSFS 2020.
I just got addicted to MS Flight Sim 2020. I will most likely buy this soon and thank you for the review.
That's fantastic to hear! 🤗
A good review, however, I recently purchased a couple of these yokes and i find it impossible to make small precise pitch shifts around the center detente. Unfortunately this is the most important area of the whole elevator shaft. Flaring for landing is almost impossible. You will try to pull back gently on the yoke to flare but nothing will happen due to the spring detente - you have to pull harder to overcome the resistance and then suddenly the nose will jerk upwards causing a stall . Taking off is similar - when trying to gently rotate - nothing happens due to the resistance - pull harder to overcome the resistance and you have pulled too hard on the stick - stall warning.The settings you have shown in game to adjust sensitivity do help in flight but taking off is difficult and landing is nigh impossible.
In order to fully use this yoke it is necessary to remove, as minimum, the center detente mechanism and replace with simple rubber bands as show in many RUclips videos. It makes an incredible difference. The dead zone issue does not seems to be as much of a problem now especially in MSFS 2020 - you can cater for it but the sticky detente, in the most important area of the elevator shaft, makes it unusable in its original state in my opinion.
Yes, when using this flight yoke with FS 2020, I hardly notice the detente at all; in fact, I do wonder if they have improved the build quality of these Flight Yoke Systems over the years, as even with FSX (provided you nulled the dead-zone in settings), the 'sticky' centre issue, was hardly noticeable.
It is however noticeable without any changes to dead-zone or sensitivity settings.
Great review, thanks! Think you've convinced me, I'm getting back in to X-Plane and want to learn how to fly properly (especially in time for FS2020!), but I'm currently restricted to a (cheap and bad) Xbox controller, so this would be a big upgrade!
One question - I am thinking of getting the yoke, throttle quadrant and rudder pedal package, and I was wondering if the pedals are worth it? I realise you don't have them, so my question is how is the experience without pedals? Do you feel like they are needed at all? Seeing as they add another £100+ pounds in to the mix and that I'm only a beginner, I'm wondering if I should get them also or just the yoke and throttle. Thanks :)
It really depends on your budget - for me, I didn't want to spend a further £100+ on Rudder pedals, but I can see the benefit of having them.
I use 'Auto Rudder' in my flight sims, which means the yoke can be used to taxi the aircraft on the ground. I don't massively feel I'm missing out by not having physical Rudder pedals :)
@@Huddison Ah nice, that's a cool feature! I'm an X-Plane user so will look in to whether there is something similar. I've ordered the yoke system and it's arriving tomorrow, looking forward to it! I may invest in the pedals in the future, but I think this is a good place to start :)
@@thecommentator6694 Have fun and read the other comments here, for calibrating the Yoke system ;)
@@Huddison Yes I saw them, thanks!
Hi! Quick question. I know this is for civilian style planes but could I use this with something IL2 Sturmovik Great Battles and use it for combat simulation too?
Yes I believe you can map the Yoke and throttle to combat sims if you wanted to - but I would really recommend a Hotas flight stick for combat sims (see my Hotas 4 review for a cheap option).
@@Huddison I have a Thrustmaster Hotas stick. Its the lower end but still quite good. Just looking to get a new nice one. I was looking at a Logitech X-52 Pro but thats $200 so I will likely wait for a sale for any upgrade I get. lol. Thanks.
@@hupyrbyut4746 I'm also interested in the X-52 (esp for DCS), but like you, will wait for a sale ;)
Thanks. Very useful. This will be more than sufficient for a newbie.
You're welcome and it's exactly why I made the video ;)
There's often more of a dead zone when flying a real Cessna yoke than in a sim.
That's something I never knew, interesting.
I wonder if the same thing applies in other aircraft lime the Baron 58, Kingair and 737?
@@MalaysianAviator737-8 nope
Not true. I’m a PP and have flown Hundreds of hours in A Cessna
Hello Friends. I am planning to buy the Logitech G Saitek PRO Flight Yoke System. May I know the software required? Do I have to buy the flight simulation software separately? Does my PC need to have certain configuration? I would appreciate if someone could share information with me. Thank you!
Hi Abdul, you simply need to have a PC with a spare USB port to use the Logitech Flight Yoke System.
This system, in one guise or the other, has been around for many years, so even older PC systems are able to run it effectively - running recent Flight Sims like Flight Simulator 2020 is a different matter; these simulations are very much dependant on the power of the PC they run on (check the required specifications for whichever Flight Simulation program you wish to play).
Flight Sims like Flight Simulator X, run on lower specification PC systems.
You do not get a Flight Simulator included with your purchase of the Logitech Flight Yoke System, you have to buy Flight Simulators separately.
Thank you for your review. Very enlightening as I decide which yoke to get for the new MS FS 2020
Thanks and best of luck with whichever yoke you decide to go with
Is it correct that the yoke has 45 degrees of movement to each side when rolling? How does that compare to what you'll find in a c172, 737 or similar? Do most aircraft also have 45 degrees to each side, or do they have more? Does this effect the immersion in any way? Thanks :)
I think Cessnas & similar aircraft have 90 degrees of yoke roll movement - tbh, I've never had to move more than say 30 degrees with flight sims and don't really noticed the restrictions.
@@Huddison Alright, thanks a lot
You can see this reflected in the sim when the yoke he’s using deflects only slightly but the 3D cockpit view shows the graphical yoke deflecting much more. I’d guess this was a tradeoff in design to simplify the potentiometer arrangement so it did not have to move over-center. But it is not as realistic. The honeycomb yoke moves more, but still not as much as an aircraft. However, in real aircraft, normally on the ground or at very slow airspeed speed is the only time you will deflect the controls that much.
Also, all real aircraft have different feel due to control and aerodynamic design choices and this is something you get used to. It is also a reason for transition training from one type to a another.
So unless you are looking to build muscle memory for a specific real aircraft it is certainly livable for a sim.
@@57Raz Tbh, it's not very noticable in FS2020 or X Plane, specifically if this will be your 'first yoke' as it is for myself.
My next video will mention this subject.
I was able to bid on eBay and get a lightly used Logitech yoke, pedal, and throttle set for $150 USD. If you buy on Logitech it’s $340.
Excellent find.
Actually, I believe you can decrease that deadzone by increasing the setting ‘null zone’ in FSX itself.
True, I have a seperate video on that.
I've got a question which I'm hoping to find an answer to because I'm about to go buy one of these. I'm worried I won't be able to use it because of how thick my desk is. The desk you're using looks to me to be about 2/3 of the thickness of mine so I reckon mine is about a half thicker than your desk is, will I be able to clamp it with that screw?
I obviously cannot say for certain that it will clamp to your desk without actually seeing it, but if it helps: if my desk was 3 times as thick, I could still clamp the yoke and throttle to it.
@@Huddison Thank you, and yes that does really help! In that case I'm going to buy my first yoke very soon. Again thank you! :)
I think it’s cheaper under Logitech than it was before Logitech bought Saitek in 2016.
I have actually flown the Cessna 172 in real life and this is a great simulator substitution. It is great for Microsoft and X plane as well.
As far as DCS, your HOTAS doesn’t cut it.? You need the X-56 or Warthog.
Thanks, that's great to know ;)
I was originally going to get this until I saw the honeycomb alpha and bravo then I got the Virpil commander rudders
Sounds good👍
Honest review thank you!
Thanks!
No thank you!
The turning radius of this Yoke sold me onto a Honeycomb Yoke for my FIRST ever Simulator controller.. Spent $520 (after taxes) for a flight Simulator yoke and I just got the game 3 days ago.. Still waiting on it to come in the mail and can't hold my patience.
Lucky you; you've going to love flying with a yoke, it makes the World of difference 👍
@@Huddison I'm currently practicing landings with the Cessna 172, on a keyboard. I'm sure it'll be a massive upgrade, lol. Thanks! Now just for it to come in the mail..
@@whatta7793 Let is know how it all goes!
can you recommend the honeycomb yoke as a first yoke?
If you have the cash for it, absolutely - although I've never tried a Honeycomb myself; I'm just going off the reviews for it.
I am still using the Hotas like you have, but I am considering this one, as long as the dead zone can be fixed with software, then I will probably get it
Attention! Literally two hours ago my apartment would have burned down if I wouldn't have been standing right next to the Yoke... I haven't used it that much in the last time... But I've always taken good care of my things, so this didn't happen because of poor handling... I was just installing the new FS2020 and plugged in my Saitek yoke while waiting... Just to see if it worked... I noticed no lights coming on when plugging it in to my USBs... After a minute I started to smell burned cables and felt heat developing inside the case... Immediately unplugged it and opened it up to see if there were flames already... Luckily not...But what I saw was that the electronic cirquit had been drowned in hot glue (I bought it new and it was never opened before) which probably caused heat to stow... I'm gonna send the evidence to Saitek and see what they say... Just for you folks, don't leave the thing plugged in when you are not around. (I have experience in firefighting btw... So I know what burned cable smells like)
Wow - good to know!
Thanks for the video mate, my yoke comes gets shipped in this weekend..... can't wait. Can you link the device you are using at 9:45 please. I've never seen something like that but am interested.
here you go:
delanengineering.com/
Enjoy your flight yoke :)
Excellent review. How is that thing that you attach to the headphones to follow the head movement called please?
The Delan Clip - I'll be making an update video on the product soon.
@@Huddison Awesome, will wait for the video
Gearing up for Microsoft flight sim 2020 & cant decide between yoke or joystick
In the midst of making a video on this subject - stay tuned!
Same
@Empty Hassan good choice👍
You will need both!
If you could have more than one real airplane - you would! But for $200,000 or more. Now with a fraction of that investment you can sim as many aircraft as you want. So why limit your fun to one type of control just to save a few chicken dinners worth?
@Huddison I've flown a Cessna for about 3 hours, I mean the real thing. I'm anticipating FS 2020 with much anticipation and wondered if you can tell me how the weighting feels? Is it just spring return? Thanks in advance.
Hi, yes it's spring return - not really comparable with the real thing (so I've heard); there are much more expensive, but much more realistic feeling yokes like the 'Yoko Yoke'.
They will set you back 7-8x the amount of this yoke though.
@@Huddison Hi, thank you very much for the reply, it sounds like its going to be the one for me as I'm going to have to spend a lot of cash on rebuilding my PC. Cheers
@@J0nny61 Take a look around for 2nd hand PCs and parts right now.. Lots of people liquidating their big rigs right now
This thing looks perfect for what I'm planing on doing. Hope to get one when they are back in stock.
Hopefully soon🤞
It took me 5 months to find one but a little tip that I wish I knew is that if you go on the Microsoft shop you can purchase it there it’s not sold out YET I looked literally everywhere for5 months straight and couldn’t find anything until I found it on Microsoft, supposed to come in tomorrow super excited for it
@@PapafartGaming Excellent tip👍
@@Huddison let me know if you find it! Good luck! Just curious if it’s only available in Canada or the USA as well
Really want a yoke syste. for my birthday but seem no body care 🤣.. Need to start saving by my self hope cam get it next year..
Next year might be your best bet to get one - they are like Gold Dust atm 🔥
Thanks for the review. I just have a quick question. Does calibrating the sensitivity of the yoke not help with the dead zone?
The dead zone is hardly noticeable in FS2020; but yes, sensitivities will help even further.
@@Huddison Thank you. Planning to use it with X-Plane instead of MSFS. Although Flight Simulator has awesome scenery, my PPL flying instructor suggested using XP instead as more realistic for training using the Just Flight PA28 add-on which is what I'm training in.
@@NaijaPilot Best of luck with your PPL.
thanks. i will get one of them. it looks cool
I saw over 10 on Amazon (UK) the other day, but they went quick!
@@Huddison ok. i live in the us
@@BassCentral10 Keep checking Amazon.com, as they seem to restock them every now and then.
@@Huddison ok i will. i have to wait a while until i get my new computer, so
@@Huddison on this site www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/flight/flight-simulator-yoke-system.945-000023.html it is 170 dollars
Thank you so much ! I found the review very interesting and helpful. I've been trying to get into flight simulators for a while, but i've found myself with no time to document about any good yoke, since playing on a stick is horrible in my oppinion. Right now, i am waiting for this yoke to be in stock again on the logitech website. Any ideas where to buy them from except the Logitech's site ? Thank you very much.
Thanks for your great comment. Try Currys/PC World - that's where I got mine from and at a very decent price too.
@@Huddison Today, I just found out it's going to sell on Amazon for the great price of 128 pound without the pre order discount. The current price is 100 pounds with an additional delivery fee of 16 pounds from amazon uk. Is it worth the wait ? Currys doesn't deliver in my country, so the only options i have are the logitech site or amazon uk. Thanks once again.
@@albertschinderman All I can say is that lower cost yokes like this, are popular right now with the upcoming release of FS2020.
So if you can get one now, for a little bit of an extra cost, it might be worth it.
@@Huddison Thank you so much !
I plan on getting this to fly boeings and light aircraft on fs2020, but the throttle quadrant says it has a ps2 connection. Can you tell me if that connects to yoke or directly to PC? My pc doesn't have a ps2 port...
The throttle plugs directly into the Yoke and the Yoke connects to your PC via USB.
Thanks for the review :) I've just purchased the yoke and throttle set and it should arrive tomorrow - so I'm glad I've made a purchase which seems to have good reviews. I intend to use with my oculas rift and xplane - I notice you have a rift too, are you happy with the setup? does it work OK in VR - what settings would you recommend? - thanks Mike
Hi Mike, great to hear that you've decided to buy the Flight yoke system.
I use it with Flyinside VR - ruclips.net/video/gq-1vqoIIV8/видео.html - and it works really well; very immersive.
I'm sure it will be fantastic in X-Plane VR (although I'm still yet to buy that sim! ;).
Another question: How do you use rudder if you don't have pedals?
Either via keyboard or another controller with rudder plugged in - not ideal
I'm sure hoping the one i have coming in time for FS 2020 is as smooth as yours in the video
Fingers crossed for you🤞
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how this video was made 7 months ago and he is still responding to comments I know other RUclipsrs who don’t respond to comments ever but huddison does 7 months after that deserves some appreciation
@@tranquilhawk5110 Thanks friend; just doing my bit to help people with any queries they have about this yoke😊
I personally just hide the yoke ingame so i think its just normal
does it get damage if I just unplug it after using it? do I have to shut down the computer first? What do you think? thanks in advance.
I've unplugged mine whilst Windows was running - no real damage yet.
Great video, I bought this yoke as well as the official rudders (just got the last set before Logitech sold out) a couple weeks ago and just received it today. Have you had any trouble with the mode switch personally? I'm using the official FSX profile on Logitech's website and for some reason I can't seem to get the yoke buttons to switch modes! They always just perform the same function no matter what. Do you have any advice?
Thanks for the comments: I've not actually played around much with the mode switch, I must investigate prior to FS2020 launch.
@@Huddison Let me know if you find anything, I would much appreciate it!
@@rumeru905 I will do
i've ordered one with rudders. looking forward to it
Rudders are the way to go, must get some myself
Huddison
DCS free during May forced me to run out an get Logitech’s pedals.
They are pretty awesome
@@PassportBrosBusinessClass cool, I'll look into them😉
Bought it a while ago and was just recently wishing I would have gotten the honeycomb a lot higher quality ECT but also $100 more. Still gets the job done tho :)
Any problems with the yoke. Thinking about buying one
@@soybean69 I would say it’s decent for the price yes, it’s plastic. The rod where you pull and push forward can sometimes feel like it has a bit of drag. But I’m sure you could fix that with something. It’s a good price as it does also come with the throttle quadrant. I would recommend the honey comb if you have the money. If not this is still a great choice and gets the job done :)
How do you rudder the aircraft without PEDALS?? i really want to buy the yoke but dont have money right now for the pedals and really dont want to buy in the future. I use a saitek x56 hotas, just sold it and bought the new logitech YOKE, but im struggling with rudder pedals!
Check in your options for 'Enable auto rudder' or similar.
You need the pedals. It’s way better having them. Crosswind landings are hugely fun to master, and it takes accurate rudder controls. If you care about simming, save up and get yourself the pedals.👍
I was wondering if you don’t have the rudders can you still taxi or take off ok or do you need them? Like if you were to just buy the yoke and power thing would you be fine?
Yes, Auto rudder takes care of that, just fine.
@@Huddison Do you know if the yoke will work with G920 pedals? I'm hoping to sacrifice differential braking if I can set up my G920 pedals so that the clutch is left rudder, gas is right rudder, and brake is brakes.
@@6jonline I'd assume that they would, if the Pedals had a separate connection to your PC.
@@Huddison Ah poo, they don't. They plug into the wheel instead. Thanks for the reply.
Is rudder pedals are required for this for yawing, as control yoke only provides roll maneuvering..!?
There's an auto rudder option in FSX which compensates for that - likely a similar option with X-Plane.
I would recommend rudder pedals though for the full experience, I'm looking to buy myself some, at some point.
Thanks a lot for your information Huddison !!
Hey buddy! Just wanted to know if this yoke can connect and work on Xbox? Great vid BTW!
I believe there's a yoke in development for Xbox consoles - I'll gather the info and make a video on it.
What did you call the light sensor that caused the screen to move with head movement. I heard D-line clip but that does not produce the desired result in a google search.
Google 'Delan clip'😉
Could someone explain how the IR eye tracking is supposed to work? What good is it if the camera in the game pans right, if I turn my head right? I'll be looking at the wall next to the monitor, won't I?
You only need to turn your head slightly left or right, whilst still having a good view of the monitor.
@@Huddison Thanks!
Nice video, I'm planning to build home cockpit soon, but am not sure about layout. Is it possible to be in VR with yoke and throttle, and still use keyboard and mouse cursor like in classic fsx?
It seems to me that those VR hand things arent that practical.
Best regards!
It's difficult to use the keyboard in VR (unless you lift your headset slightly to see); you could get hold of a trackball mouse and have it close to hand to use.
@@Huddison That makes sense, I guess mouse will be ok if You can see the arrow on screen with VR.
I think of this idea because its universal to have mouse for radio, navigation, lights etc.
Thanks for advice 😊👍
hi. yeah so like i want to get honeycomb and it's apparently better but it's not in my budget so ill get this and maybe in a few months ill get honeycomb thanks for the review
That's also why I went with the Logitech yoke.
It's also fantastic with FS2020; check my latest vid!
Update i got the honeycomb yoke
@@darvax8333 Nice! I may get one myself when the prices calm down - eventually. Although, I'm still happy with my Logtiech Yoke System.
@@Huddison yeah, i got the honeycomb cause it was for 200 someone selling and it's brand new so i copped and it was only 100km away from me and the logitech yoke wasn't in stock anywhere
@@darvax8333 You got a great deal there!
That's cool. Maybe the next you need to upgrade is your monitor, some ultra wide display will get you nice FoV.
lol, my thoughts exactly ;}
Or just play in vr 😁
@@nikhillingem yes or that too
Agreed. I’m getting tired of using a tv and just want a decent nice monitor with good resolution
I brought one in the u.s.a. that's where I'm at. I be using it more On Tuesday The 18th on Flight SIM 2020!
Same. But you know I also have to buy a pc before I can buy this and FS2020
Same, already spent 4000 dollars lol
Bill Lam I spent $1,300 on my pc and 100 more on my monitor I just decided to buy the Airbus Tca Sidestick instead
@@tranquilhawk5110 I spent 3000ish on the pc with a 2080ti gpu( wanna play in ultra) spent another grand on a 4k 32in monitor. The game and yoke cost another 300 lol. I tried to get the honeycomb yoke but all was sold out
Bill Lam lol I only spent around 1400 and that’s a stretch I can’t believe you spent 4k
It seems like there is considerable latency between the movement of the yoke and the response of the aircraft... This doesnt seem to be the case with my cheap logitech flight stick... Does that bother you at all?
Hey! I loved your video, and I recently got interested in the aviation-flight simulator industry. I’m a new beginner, looking for a immersive experience for planes. Would you reccommend this as a starting area? I usually prefer Boeing planes. Also, can you put the amazon link to the yoke aswell? Thanks.
Thanks. I would recommend this yoke as a starting area, as it's (generally) not too expensive and provides great immersion in game.
If you're into Boeing aircraft: check out the PMDG series of planes for FSX (777, 737 etc) - these can be quite expensive to buy, but offer unparalleled authenticity and accuracy.
PMDG will soon be unleashing their aircraft in the new FS2020 simulator; so if you have the PC capable of running that sim, then that's the way to go.
@@Huddison Alright, thanks! I have a NVIDIA GTX 1060 Max-q which should be enough, and I'm also going to get FS2020 and this yoke which should be suitable.
it is not to stiff if any thing they should put in game controller feed back because when your actually in a climb attitude in a real aircraft you can barely hold on to the yoke with one hand for over a minute without a bit of trim lol
Yeah great point; force feed back would be an incredible addition to this yoke.
@@Huddison it would be amazing haha
Hoping to use this for the new microsft flight sim 2020 thanks!
You're welcome
You said it cost £117? where did you get it from because everywhere i look its about £140?
Here you go:
www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/computer-accessories/game-controllers-and-joysticks/saitek-the-pro-flight-yoke-system-00926150-pdt.html
Hi there, Great video, am thinking of getting one of these but can I run this with Microsoft flight simulator 2004?
I don't know the answer to that question, but other viewers of this video might be able to help (?)
@@Huddison thanks for the swift reply.
I'd say yes, I believe it is advertised as compatible on the Logitech site.
@@rumeru905 Thanks Jack, much appreciated.
You should check out the yoke from Honeycomb Aeronautical, it blows this out the water
One day I just might.
At the moment at this time, you will have a job to purchase one, when I first bought one years ago, they were about £76 now if you can find them they are anything from £250 to £500, really not worth this at these prices before this shortage to place they were about £90
They are a rip off right now. I would imagine after Christmas, the prices will settle back down to normal-ish again.
1:35 I have to say "yes" BUT: If u fly airbus, the sidestick is not like a yoke. Depends on the plane u like to fly :D
Very true👍
Amazing review! Whats the thing that can connect the throttles called?
There's something called 737 replica handles for the saitek throttle quadrant (loitech throttles are pretty much the same so they should work).
I also saw a simple solid knob a while ago; i'll research that further and get back to you.
@@Huddison Check 9:16 and you'll see what i mean
@@Huddison Thank you :)
@@oscarkastor7718 Take a look at this website, although he seems to be sold out with most accessories atm:
www.flightsimpm.com/web-store/Saitek-CH-handles-c13233007
Hey does it come with extra throttle things with. The throttle and mixture?
No, it comes with what you see in this video
Huddison ok thanks
other than honeycomb yokes and this one what good quality yoke do you suggest?
There is also the 'Yoko Yoke': www.virtual-fly.com/en/shop/controls/flight-sim-yoke-yoko-the-yoke-plus?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhL-jltm76wIVhrHtCh2_Sw9bEAAYASAAEgKp6fD_BwE
Very pricey though and also the 'Brunner Yoke' (Top of the line!):
www.brunner-innovation.swiss/products-technologies/simulation-products/
is there a "dead zone" which is super important for flying Cessna 150 or 172 or other general aviation lighter aircraft? Thanks!
Do you mean dead zone setting?
WC yes
What's the deal with the wall plug input on the yoke ? Do you need to plug it into a 120 voltage wall plug outlet ?
No you connect the yoke via USB and the throttle plugs directly into the yoke.
@@Huddison Ok thanks for the come back.
Hey! Great vid! Quick question, do you know if this will work for flight sim 2020?
I would say it very likely will.
Huddison Thank you so much! I’m thinking about just going fo it and buying the whole bundle. I know it will be worth it in the end!
hi bud thanks for a great vid
Most welcome ;)
thanks for the review
👍
What desk is this?
It's just a cheap DIY computer desk I bought from Argos a few years ago - sorry don't remember all the details.
Can you control the rudders without rudder pedals? If so, how?
It depends on the Sim, but FSX and X-Plane (I think) - enable 'auto rudder' and use to yoke to steer the plane on the ground.
Thanks for the reply! I didn't know that!
Im thinking to buy it but am afread of the problems (im playing on mfs 2020) and wondring if the syinc is perfect can you tell me
It syncs well with MSFS 2020; but understand: I've no other yoke system to compare it to.
@@Huddison thank you so so much i love your vids pls keep up the good work
@@thewitcher_q893 Thanks, that's highly appreciated:)
So The New Logitec is better than the orig Saitek ?? hope so
I never owned a Saitek, but I recommend the Logitech
Thank You Spot on Answer
Now that Microsoft Flightsimulator 2020 is available have you used your Logitech yoke on FS 2020?
yes check out my latest vid (was using yoke throughout) - video, re Logitech flight yoke and FS2020, coming soon!
can you adjust the deadzone settings in logitech game software?
Somehow - never quite figured it out personally
Nice review I was setting mine up waiting for MS FS 2020 to roll out. I have a question about the hardware you using to enable you to pan your view. I'm interested in purchasing it.
Thanks
Do you mean the head-tracking hardware? That's called the 'Delan clip'.
@@Huddison That was it thank you. I was into Sims but that was a couple of decades ago. Getting back into it I feel so much like a noob
@@DogsLoveTeslas we've all been there, you'll be advising other simmers soon😊
Do you have pedals? If not, how do you steer on the ground?
Auto rudder option (in FSX at least) lets you use the yoke to taxi. I'm definitely contemplating buying rudder pedals.
can i have the intro song
Just got this yoke, but it has unreliable USB communication with the computer. (Win10. Ryzen 7 2700. 16Gb RAM. Rx570 video.) After about 50sec of flying, every time, it would no longer comm to the computer. The plane now flies on its own. LOL. Loaded the latest 64bit driver from logitech website (Aug ? version 8.0.213). I tried everything I can think of, uninstall and install, etc. Still behaves with the same disconnection about a min into the flight. Notice others having the same problem according to their posts. Some even suggested to do RegEdit. Nothing worked. Anyone had the same problem with a working remedy ???
I think the communication somehow timed out. Sometimes the screen would freeze for about 10sec, then unfroze but without control. I've a HOTAS joystick that works beautifully.
Help!!!
Hopefully someone will come to your rescue 😐
@@Huddison I think the problem has gone away. Two things happened, so I am not sure which solved it. 1. Today, I went to Device Manager, Human Interface, right click on the Yoke line, chose UnInstall and chose Remove Driver. Reboot. At that point, the yoke has the default driver that Win10 has for it. That works in FS2020, actually and refreshingly better than the Logitech driver. But I had to redo Assignments of buttons. [A minor problem here, worth noting, is that if you have a power supply 5v 1.5A plugged into the yoke you need to remove it, because it keeps whatever the latest info there is, in the yoke circuitry that rebooting won't help reset it.] That may have been the cause. Generic Win10 driver worked well. 2. Then I also realize that Win10 had a massive download, probably while I was trying to get the yoke to work (that explains the "freeze" aspect of it). This might have triggered the timeout by the yoke circuitry. HOTAS controller I had, and used during this time, did not have this problem. It might have been that something unique (protocol) in the Yoke circuitry that was vulnerable to inadvertent delay.
The problem with using Win10 generic driver is that you won't have the clock display (on the yoke) to current local time. I'm going to leave it AS IS for a week to see if there's any issue. Then I will venture to reInstall the Logitech driver and see if the comm problem comes back.
@@fredflorist1682 That's great to hear Fred.
As a side note: I've always used the generic Windows 10 default driver for the yoke and the clock has always displayed the correct local time.
I don't (and never have as yet) used a power supply with my yoke though - perhaps that is why I've never really had problems with it, to this date.
@@Huddison Win10 generic driver worked several times. So I attempted to reproduce the problem by installing the latest version of Logitech driver (file name : Flight_Yoke_System_x64_8_0_213_0.exe). Sure enough, it happened again. I wouldn't generalize that this would happen in every PC. It just doesn't like mine.
Uninstalled again. Back to the generic driver. Use the Generic Win10 driver !!!!
@@fredflorist1682 That is great advice 👍😊
thank you, just bought one
Enjoy!😊👍🏅
Can you use it like a mouse like move your cursor around while out of a flight sim?
Hmm I've never tried, my instincts are saying that you can't though
@@Huddison ok thanks for answering 😀
Stupid question but does it come with the Logitech G Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant or it that sold separately it looked like the Rudder is just downloaded the new flight sim and is pretty fun but only using an xbox controller with it I do have the G29 Steering wheel for ETS2 and ATS but I don't see that working with flight sim too good
Yes the yoke and throttle come as a package.
Have you had a chance to look at the Honeycomb Alpha Flight yoke?
Not yet, but may do in the future.
@@Huddison rock on, I should be getting mine in a few Weeks! I'll let you know if its worth reviewing :)
Hi mate, X plane 11 does not pick up my yoke. Do you have a solution?
I don't have X-plane 11 (yet), but this video should help:
ruclips.net/video/obqLxBtx_t8/видео.html
Will this work on Xbox for FS 2020
Sorry for delayed response: not sure if it'll work with the new Xbox or not - but I wouldn't be surprised to see a dedicated yoke system for the Xbox, when FS2020 releases!
Ok thank you! That’s what I was thinking to I just wasn’t sure.
I shouldn't be that easy to pitch. In real life you really need to put effort on yoke if you are flying a plane that is not fly by wire. It might feel odd but thats how it is in reality and that is the reason why experienced simmers do worse than non simmers in their first real flight.
That's interesting and great feedback - thanks!
My yoke jitters a lot around 30 degrees, is this normal?
Watch this other video of mine (if you haven't already):
ruclips.net/video/eZJrzlQctQU/видео.html
Where can I buy the thing with the infa red lights
Google 'Delan Clip'
did you zero the deadzones in the sim settings?
Yes I made a further video on that subject
Should I buy all the xplane 11 dlc with mummy's credit card