Do you find that individualism disconcerting? As an American who is an absolute individualist, meaning that I literally could not possible care any less what society thinks or does, I'm ironically interested to hear what you say about this. I will tell you that when I have sat and spoken with Europeans, who are less individualistic than Americans, I am genuinely perplexed by how they are able to view themselves as a part of the whole, rather than their own person with individual needs and desires. Additionally, when I have spoken to my Asian friends from Japan and Okinawa and China, I have told them before that their lack of individualism makes me feel like they are from another planet, and they respond similarly to me, and it offends neither of us, which is refreshing. Cheers, Aadesh.
@@vaughnblaylock6069 Not at all disconcerting. I have been on both sides of the fence now and I respect the prevalence of both. In fact, I have grown to appreciate my culture even more. And I am glad that we all don’t think alike in this world. It would be a pretty boring place.
@@vaughnblaylock6069 im chinese and while our values have become increasingly modern and western i do see value in traditional values. Individualism is good but there can be a scenario where everyone is trying too hard to please themselves, they never actually fulfill that goal and become upset and resentful. Marriage is the best example. You can go through 2-3 divorces and never really find the right one. You can die alone and realize "hey maybe i should have stayed with the first spouse or any one of them is better than being alone". Especially true if you have kids. Everyone should be to search for their own happiness but that doesnt mean they would automatically arrive at the best choice. Often they dont and have to "settle" anyway. The best example i can think of is me deciding what i want to eat with my girlfriend. I would throw ideas off the wall and shes like "ummmm i dunno". That would happen several times for any suggestion. My sisters are the same way and im indecisive as well. But if at the very beginning i said "we are eating at a friends house, you have no options" everyone would be happier. Less choice, more happiness.
@@sujalgautam9761 yeah man but the cast system is bad we have to remove that.And west is always like me me me all the time you UN even approach India to dissolve it's culture tradition ritual and accept individualism
I dont know man. Thinking its a hilarious joke to ask for a womans opinion on who should be allowed to stick his noodle in her for the rest of her life, is pretty inhumane but maybe thats just me.
don't believe anything he said,I'm from Nepal we live just like you or others,we don't eat rat,cow urine is only thought as "ayurvedic" and used for religious purposes by some people that believe it rather than science thing that works,child marriage happens but in rural areas and it has been deemed very illegal and people go to jail for that left and right.anyway things has changed,this guy is misinforming you guys hard..also people can marry whoever they want,we're cool as hell man,this guy's making us look like caveman fools..
As a Nepali. I think he actually understood our culture very well since he was involved with the community, that also in a remote place. He seems very wise.
Greetings from the U.K. How are you? I hope you and your family are all good especially in these times of Covid. I haven’t met many Nepalese people but the ones I have met have been some of the friendliest kindest and nicest people I’ve ever met. The only Nepalese people I’ve met where Gurkha’s and I was very honoured to meet them.
@@howey935 Hello there, I'm happy you had such pleasurable experience meeting our countrymen. Gurkhas are so down to earth and humble people yet one of the most fierce soldiers. We are very honoured and proud to have our men recruited to the British Gurka Forces and hear stories about their bravery in action. As for covid right now in Nepal, the situation is getting a bit worse day by day. Just today 6 thousand new cases of covid were reported. Which is huge for a small country like ours. Since Nepal and India have open borders the situation is getting a bit out of hand because people from India are coming to Nepal due to rising covid cases in India. But Nepali people have at least followed government protocols and the government is also deciding to take more strict actions. Right now we're in lockdown. This wave seems to be a bit stronger as well since young people are losing lives too. Hopefully the situation gets better quicker than before. Be safe out there.
you mean misunderstood?do we eat rat bro?do we use cow urine for corona and not vaccine?are we that dumb?this guy is tripping hard and so are you guys for saying thank you for mentioning my country and so on,this guy is destroying the image of our country with all the bs and misinformation to the western world and there you guys go with your Thankful shit..
@john mishra yeah don't even bother with these westerners bro,they act like they wanna learn but all they're really doing is picking on certain things to push their agenda like usual,I respect the ones that respect other people and their traditions but people like this guy deserves no attention.
I am Nepali, I have been to parts of Rural Nepal but eating rat is not common at all. Certain people of caste and community do but its not common in overall
You’ve got it wrong. There’s nothing wrong with a man having pride and self certainty. That’s what’s wrong with your generation. Men, except without the testicle part
@@280SE you're an idiot pride and vanity are products of ego and only weigh the soul down if you can feel shame then you can't feel remorse and will be stuck here
I feel like this guy could describe his experience at a Tijuana donkey show and the valuable lessons he learned from it, and we’d all just be like “yeah that makes sense”
No he ain't,is there a fact in nepalese eating rat?cow urine for corona and not vaccine?wtf you talking about and not everyone is forced,love marriage is a huge thing here too and people marry whoever they want all the time,wtf
@@Asyphinix are you even from here?My original home is in rural hills called pyuthan,I live in kathmandu too and yeah even if he's talking about rural areas,it still doesn't hold that much relevance in present day context but he's speaking shit from way back and portraying it such in present day context,what you on?
Firstly, he isn't talking about present days. Secondly, He is talking about his experiences not yours. Some places are still in the condition as he was talking about. Consumption of urine for corona is done by Indians which joe said he don't know the places. Nepalese still consume cow's during poojas. Eating rat is rare but I have seen children who used to hunt rat whole day and fry in the field and consume it. So, STFU and be rational. Dig deeper into the rural stories.
@@tdog5993 tried calling the spiritual leader of Tibet. I was sent a goat with a long neck. Turns out I was calling Dial a lama. Lol 😆 So STFU and don't make everything about you for once.
That stuff is interesting. But honestly the western influence in Thamel and Pokhara were the most fun.. and the wild monkeys. Also how the infrastructure is.
@@Redallstar1 I'm saying that the idea that Western cultures, which include in the US a 50% + divorce rate, judging the validity of other systems, is at best extremely arrogant. I have seen incredible successes in family chosen marriages, and awful failures. And the same in American marriages. The idea that one is clearly superior is silly and pretentious...
@@steveschulte1207 Well said. There are many areas where western civilisation can rightly claim to be superior, marriage and relationships aren't one of them.
Yeah it sounds interesting,but love by definition doesn't fall, it's unconditional. You can't give birth/adopt someone and suddenly stop being their parent. Maybe we're calling lust and attractiveness love, we're so hurry to call any emotion love and that's the problem
@@fenugreekqueen6805 the thing is we are not talking about kids here . It about marriage there is statics that love marriage break more then a arranged one . But the thing is we are very ill informed about love . What we call love today is very alien what love is . Love is not about laughing together whole love is to whom with you can suffer anything even a fucking nuclear explosion and you won't run away . But what you see is the very second a men loss his job he get a divorce served . Because western mindset is only leaving happy matter . They should not be a problem never if there will I will fucking divorce you and marry someone richer then you . You can't be angry on me ever I mean isn't it going against nature of a human and gene editing it . A man who can love will get angry . Why indian marriage work because we believe that we will suffer ever day we will shout fight cry and may be laugh someday but will not leave each other not because we can't . But because world is same with every next human the process is same so how many of them we will change . You just can't change world or a second person you can only change yourself so do it
As he said you do develop feelings eventually. It's just like how you are likely to be friends with someone for your life but less likely to be in love with the same person for life. Arrange marriage is all about probability and statistics. To minimise the loneliness. Life is suffering ~ Buddha
@@fenugreekqueen6805 "We: Understanding the Psychology of Romantic Love" is a great book that explores the difference between what the author calls "romantic love", which is an intense emotional experience that happens to you, and "human love", which is something you commit to (can also be thought of devotion and understanding).
@@regankhadka4631 I'd say it does applies, albeit to a lesser degree. Arranged marriage and girl leaving her house to live in husband is still very common even in Kathmandu. Caste system is also deep rooted in Nepali society, though yes I'd like to think most people don't discriminate based on caste.
It's like yah n nah also... My parents ran away n did love marriage whereas my Grandparents are too many , lots of uncle's n aunt LMFAO One thing can't be denied 🤣😂😏🇳🇵 I would love to born in this country again.. we have so many things here
Born in Nepal, been in the United States for 10 years, and also an engineer, I’ve never heard of anyone eating rats in Nepal. Also, my family still practices caste system and arranged marriage to a certain degree right here in the US. At dinner time, we discuss about individualistic western culture and how elderly are put into nursing homes instead of their children taking care of them.
@@pandabear4565 they said usually. This isn’t a race to get your daughter married off the grossest old man out there. The entire point is to find someone desirable and cement family ties. It usually is a 4- 5 year age gap.
He is such an amazing person to listen to. The way he speak about things that he learned and experienced is immensely full of passion and respect for culture and language outside his own.
It was interesting listening to Jonathan. Almost everything he mentioned is almost right. Nepal is two different nations within a country if you compare the urban and the rural side. The rural areas is still very traditional and takes pride in the traditional values and culture whereas the urban areas are somehow different, modern and almost western to be honest. I'm pretty sure some Nepalese who are from the bigger cities in Nepal gets shocked and surprised by the rural traditions and culture when they visit the rural Nepal as well. The differences are there because of socio-economic situation, education, lack of exposure to the world, religion etc. As a Nepalese myself who has been living in Europe for half of my life and married to a European, I find the story somehow shocking myself but I don't disrespect that as well because I do understand the differences between the society within the country. Perhaps it will take some time until until the rural traditional ways changes but I definitely think its moving in right direction. ✌🇳🇵
When he said that the worst human characteristic was self certainty I immediately exclaimed “Yes ! I agree with you” but then I thought “I’m I certain of that ?”
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@@moonmarketyoutube5748 thanks Joe Rogan. I will but I wanna know.. are you still coming this week-end ? Should I put some deer meat aside for you and your wife like usual ?
@@moonmarketyoutube5748 oh wow Joe Rogan and his team are really responding to comments. That’s definitely not a comment from a fake account that was recently created for the purpose of scamming people.
@@frankmaitland2569 No way that's true. Crime occurs in every part of the world. You don't get to generalize that. If a American man killed his wife, you don't go around saying they (Americans) kill their wives.
Listening to this episode, i came to realize that the norms we’ve been following in my country are just to make people understand that living as a social being is better than as an individual.
I am from Nepal and I'd like to say that our society is changing. Child marriage and untouchability is illegal now. Love marriage (choosing your own partner) is being common but even if your families choose your partner, you can have the final say. You're given some time to spend together with your potential future partner and get to know them, before marriage. I'm fascinated how wise Zimmerman is. He accepted how things are in the other part of the world even though that's not acceptable for him. Our culture, what we do, how we do works for us. We have a sense of community and we want to be included in that community. We often care about what other people think, which has its own merits and demerits. This thought often stops us from doing bad things, this thought often make marriage work. I know our culture is different but it's neither right nor wrong, so is yours.
and on top of that he's misinformating whole bunch out here,he may be talking about nepal in 80s/90s but shit has changed alot,we don't eat rat,we take vaccine not cow urine,child marriage is very illegal and 18 is the limit,love marriage existed,exist and will exist in nepal,this guy is acting like everyone here is forced or some shit..
M Nepalese working in United Arab Emirates..this guy put clear picture of remote parts of nepal.. I am shocked and my heart broke when I heard still untouchabilities exist in nepal.
Im amazed by how vividly he explains it all including the Nepali language. He really respects our culture and everything that he said is true in rural areas except the 'rat' part in the beginning. Maybe I haven't been to more remote places myself.
I am from Nepal. Now 30 years old. My grandmother got married when she was 10 years old, she had her first child when she was 21. After 68 years of marriage, my grandfather died, due to the shock of that she lost her mind and died 2 years after that. There are lot more to it than you see from the outside!
Thank you Joe for having these podcasts with such fascinating conversations with all your guests. I REALLY WISH that there were more teachers like Zimmerman. I think a lot of what is happening wouldn’t be- we’d have to think more, and listen more, true open mindedness-
I was born in Nepal and lived half of my life there so I think I understand the arrange marriage tradition (although this practice is more prevalent in rural nepal than the cities). It is about propagation of the lineage like the guest pointed out but to be specific, I think it’s about financial security and maintaining or improving ones’ social status. Not saying it’s wrong or right but that’s the mind set. And as far as married couple sharing the same household is concerned, in rural nepal and other poor parts of the world they don’t have a choice but to do that because they make very little and can’t afford to get a place of your own. And the way you make it work is by staying together and helping each other out in any you can. Like any tradition, this one too is a product of the environment.
That is just another argument, probably one of the factors, but there are many more. To counter your argument, arrange marriage happen in cities between people of different economic status. Then there is Kundali matching before marriage too. Our system is more based on what works and what doesn't and is backed by data (as most marriage work).
Rogan wanted confirmation bias for his choice to be married for individual reasons. Rogan was ready to laugh if the arranged marriage failed. He doesn't understand they marry for family, and community rather than selfish individuals reasons
I am from Nepal and he potrayed everything really well. Most of the things he said were correct. But the system is evolving now, people are falling in love more often and marrying their loved ones
i love how he explained everything about our culture the good and bad all without judgement. every society has their own virtues and vices. he had experienced both living in nepal and knows he can talk about the bad parts give crticism without coming off as the entitled white guy who knows better.
Would love to see more people who have visited Nepal talk about Nepal.It's our country with uniquest culture. Mad respect to him describing our culture so beautifully respectfully and gracefully🇳🇵🇳🇵
I kind of took it as your average Westerner being somewhat condescending. Not nearly as bad as most but still kind of offended at some of those cultural norms. Personally I'm not. There is a lot more going on there than simply marrying off a daughter. If you're lucky enough to have a beautiful daughter that can be a step stone to building generational wealth through the dowry.
I really liked and appreciated the way that Jonathan talked about Nepal, looking at it with an Open Mind. Thank you and Joe for giving your views upon such a small country like Nepal.
“There are many different ways to be human” - well said and sometimes forgotten by those who believe they have a Trust on regulating culture and behavior on everybody, not just they’re own nation
@@MadCatMaddie I am from Nepal as well and the thing this guy is talking about is from Rural Nepal. And everything he is saying still does happen in some areas of Nepal, especially the western region. However, if you come to the city areas like Kathmandu, Pokhara, or Lalitpur, the story is completely different. Nepal is significantly diverse when it comes to demography. For a country this small, we have over 120 national languages, and hundreds of different cultures. So most things would depend on what part of Nepal do you live in.
I am from nepal as well. What he is saying may be true in remote parts of nepal or traditional communities, but that for sure is not exact reality of most nepali. Arranged marriages are common but a girl is rarely forced into marriages. it is important to note that, despite being a small country, nepal has lots of diversity in culture (probably due to centuries of geographical barriers among other things), so these generalisations must be taken with a grain of salt.
@@MadCatMaddie basically people can marry whoever they want,arrange marriage happens when son/daughter can't find love by themselve so there parents find mates for them..there you go opinion from a nepali
I am a Nepalese student in Russia and I’ve been following JRE for a while now. My huge respect to Jonathan for sharing his genuine and unbiased review on Nepal’s rural norms and traditions. I have watched similar kind of videos/vlogs from Russians on Nepal. They openly shared how disgusted they were by the Nepalese norms, traditions and the ignorance of people. I think Respect/empathy is what separates a great nation from the others.
I am the first-gen Nepalese living in the USA, I came to the USA when I was 30, all I want to say here is as much as arranged marriage is shocking in the USA, divorce is equally shocking in parts of Nepal! And as Jon said, "It all works out!"
@@blackout2430 No this is very very rare. It happens if the man has a great social and economic status in a community. The parents will marry off their young daughter to 40 or 50 years old. Usually the girls get married to the boy who is around her age and upto 5 to 6 years older but not younger than the girl. I know this because I am from Nepal but I don't live in rural part of Nepal.
I wonder where did he lived in Nepal? It's so nice to watch you guys discussing something that I've been so skeptical about. Because I'm from Nepal and it is very informative to hear the perspective from West culture.
That guy just pointed out some of the most extreme and bizarre taboos in Nepal and all that you're looking for is a shout out ? Try to learn from a third person view.
@@tonikpun9955 Here comes the typical Nepali guy with narrow outlook with his stupid opinion and tries to be genius for everything.😂 I just had the joy of nepal being mentioned. I am sure they are open minded enough to understand the vastness of our country. Get a life bro and rather stay in the comment section of Nepali pages where you can find a lot of genuis people like you ready to prove their point. 😂😂
@@tonikpun9955 extreme and bizzare? What he talked about is very common in Nepal, especially in rural areas. Even in cities, arranged marriage is much more common than love marriage. And girl leaving house to stay at husband's house is pretty much how our culture works. And caste system still exists and is followed to various degrees depending on the place.
@@overshot8331 yeah, right, not extreme and bizarre in Nepal. That's exactly the point. If you are under the impression that child marriage and caste discrimination is not so much of a big deal, then well, whatever makes you happy.
Interesting discussion and interests me as a geographer. Human cultures are varied and interesting. To set aside your own value system and get into their heads is always a trip.
As a Nepali listening about The caste system that divides our society Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas and the Shudras.....it was made century ago and we still following this in 21st century makes me feel bad ...it was refreshing to listen
@@mama-xm7mb bro you must from ktm and think ktm is all nepal ...open your eye dont you read the news what happen Few month ago.. One guy was killed by whole village because he married higher cast girl... And my family more education then your and we dont believe in this caste system....we are not like you that think we dont have these problems... We have these problems that we need to slove together
Nalin Pradhan brother, you missed my point. Ktm is not whole Nepal and rural villages are not whole Nepal. Things are drastically different. So do not generalise is my argument. But yes we all need to solve it together
I really enjoyed the conversation between Jon and Joe. You could tell Jon has such a deep respect for Joe. He took such a deep interest in Joes life and beliefs, even showing genuine compassion and concern when Joe mentions he grew up without a father.
Joe if you're reading this, there's more to arranged marriage. In the rural areas Jonathon is talking about, it oftentimes may seem bizarre, but you have to understand that there is A LOT of effort that goes into making sure that the correct person is selected - they filter for the same characteristics that you might if you were looking for your own partner (financial stability, kindness, physical attractiveness, education, etc.). This is not a system where they get married off with no respect for what is best for them, the fundamental difference is that the person who does that evaluation is your parents instead of yourself - who usually acts in your best interest on your behalf with the benefit of life experience. Moreover, arranged marriage in countries like India now, outside of the rural traditional systems, has evolved. It's more akin to matchmaking where the people involved have a say and a veto. So your parents will set you up with potential matches, the people will hang out, and either they click and decide to do it or they say no and the process goes on. American's seem to misunderstand the system altogether to be motivated by oppression and greed, which is not true. I'm not saying there aren't pros and cons, but my point here is simply to explain the justification of the system and why it works in other parts of the world.
thanks. i dont remember but, i watched a show i think on netflix where that was the whole thing. arranged matchmaking in india. we tend to apply our understandings from our bubbles onto others outside it without really trying to understand why they might be doing what they are doing and how it works. and maybe im crazy, but i do think a lot of blame can be placed on media and organized religion. for example if youve been around indians or the like they may have a smell. growing up all i knew was that there was a smell. it wasnt until i asked that i understood it was bc of foods/spices. ppl just dont ask so they assume and even have a hard time listening when being told. so again thanks for your explanation even if my own comment comes across as nonsense
@@observantmonkey4055 I understand what you are saying. The bubble is very real. Arranged marriage is not even a specifically South Asian thing - it’s practiced most places. The entire Arab world for example is 100% traditional arranged marriage, much less liberal than the system that’s evolved in modern India. Lots of Eastern European societies too. Modern western liberalism isn’t as widespread as we might like to imagine in our English speaking bubble of the internet
@@desidark1243 agree. im very lucky i feel, to have started my schooling in an extremely diverse school. so i kinda got to see the differences between diff. kinds of ppl. we could ease a lot of tensions if ppl understood what you said and thought with fresh and open minds when dealing with different kinds of ppls cultures etc. just make this process of society so much easier to..."handle" and progress.
The roots of culture and caste system in Nepal is designed for the survival of the species. Moreover, arrange marriage is not as bad as it sounds. If you see the stats in Nepal and India, arrange marriage have more sucess rate than love marriage. However, things change people change belief change. Nothing is permanent. So good to see Nepal and Nepali culture discussed in JRE. Joe I think you should invite Sadhguru to your show for a better understading of hindu culture and way the society works over here in the EAST. Love from Nepal :)
His view on conservatives and republicans is narrow and shaded by negative stereotypes. I thought he sounded like a dope. Very surface level messages with no answers or ideas on how to fix any problems. Same old garbage, different day
@@firstorder438 Im not saying its right or wrong. I think to change people's minds you cant just show up and condemn their beliefs as wrong to their face.
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I am from Nepal and I am equally surprised how individualistic the Western culture is. We are all products of our culture.
Well said.
West is based on this concept
Do you find that individualism disconcerting? As an American who is an absolute individualist, meaning that I literally could not possible care any less what society thinks or does, I'm ironically interested to hear what you say about this. I will tell you that when I have sat and spoken with Europeans, who are less individualistic than Americans, I am genuinely perplexed by how they are able to view themselves as a part of the whole, rather than their own person with individual needs and desires. Additionally, when I have spoken to my Asian friends from Japan and Okinawa and China, I have told them before that their lack of individualism makes me feel like they are from another planet, and they respond similarly to me, and it offends neither of us, which is refreshing.
Cheers, Aadesh.
@@vaughnblaylock6069 Not at all disconcerting. I have been on both sides of the fence now and I respect the prevalence of both. In fact, I have grown to appreciate my culture even more. And I am glad that we all don’t think alike in this world. It would be a pretty boring place.
@@vaughnblaylock6069 im chinese and while our values have become increasingly modern and western i do see value in traditional values.
Individualism is good but there can be a scenario where everyone is trying too hard to please themselves, they never actually fulfill that goal and become upset and resentful.
Marriage is the best example. You can go through 2-3 divorces and never really find the right one. You can die alone and realize "hey maybe i should have stayed with the first spouse or any one of them is better than being alone". Especially true if you have kids.
Everyone should be to search for their own happiness but that doesnt mean they would automatically arrive at the best choice. Often they dont and have to "settle" anyway.
The best example i can think of is me deciding what i want to eat with my girlfriend. I would throw ideas off the wall and shes like "ummmm i dunno". That would happen several times for any suggestion. My sisters are the same way and im indecisive as well. But if at the very beginning i said "we are eating at a friends house, you have no options" everyone would be happier. Less choice, more happiness.
I like how open minded he is. Doesn’t have to agree with but understands there’s different ways humans work. Need more people like this
So more people who turn a blind eye to blatant evil got it.
@@firstorder438 yeah like he can change a 3000 year old system. Never said it’s his way of thinking or that he agrees with it
I agree, friend. 👍
We call such people "apologists"
He's like a hippie Jordan Peterson. Enjoyed the podcast.
Seeing Nepal in JRE title was absolutely good. Much love from Nepal 🇳🇵
Yeahh brother we need interviewer like joe but not rishi dhamala
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@john mishra yea i mean joe is just procrastinating and Nepalese on the comment section think he is god
@@sujalgautam9761 yeah man but the cast system is bad we have to remove that.And west is always like me me me all the time you UN even approach India to dissolve it's culture tradition ritual and accept individualism
And love the way Sanjay is taking this home.
Any time a guest walks in with one of those cheap baggy button ups on, you know they're about to drop some KNOWLEDGE.
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He looks like inmate 1 from the unexpected covid release.... joe rogan...... gems
And you also know it’s a commi. This guy thinks there is no crisis at the border. I guess 4K illegals crossing every day is not a problem for him.
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@@freedomfreedom6544 made yourself sound stupid there
As Nepali, we sometimes forget to question why we do the things we do. It was very refreshing listening to this man. He talks with such understanding.
Nepal is cool ..
Because you are brainwashed since your childhood.
@@Nova_1945 So are you.
Ya but that eating rat thing is not common at all.
This conversation represent only certain rural part of our country Nepal..but as a whole our country is not like this we have come across the way
"How many different ways there are to be a human" what a quote.
Same to you
That quote really puts living as human beings into perspective
It also justifies literally everything ever done by humans. Is judging 1940’s Nazi’s ethnocentric?
I dont know man. Thinking its a hilarious joke to ask for a womans opinion on who should be allowed to stick his noodle in her for the rest of her life, is pretty inhumane but maybe thats just me.
don't believe anything he said,I'm from Nepal we live just like you or others,we don't eat rat,cow urine is only thought as "ayurvedic" and used for religious purposes by some people that believe it rather than science thing that works,child marriage happens but in rural areas and it has been deemed very illegal and people go to jail for that left and right.anyway things has changed,this guy is misinforming you guys hard..also people can marry whoever they want,we're cool as hell man,this guy's making us look like caveman fools..
As a Nepali. I think he actually understood our culture very well since he was involved with the community, that also in a remote place. He seems very wise.
Greetings from the U.K. How are you? I hope you and your family are all good especially in these times of Covid. I haven’t met many Nepalese people but the ones I have met have been some of the friendliest kindest and nicest people I’ve ever met. The only Nepalese people I’ve met where Gurkha’s and I was very honoured to meet them.
@@howey935 Hello there, I'm happy you had such pleasurable experience meeting our countrymen. Gurkhas are so down to earth and humble people yet one of the most fierce soldiers. We are very honoured and proud to have our men recruited to the British Gurka Forces and hear stories about their bravery in action.
As for covid right now in Nepal, the situation is getting a bit worse day by day. Just today 6 thousand new cases of covid were reported. Which is huge for a small country like ours. Since Nepal and India have open borders the situation is getting a bit out of hand because people from India are coming to Nepal due to rising covid cases in India. But Nepali people have at least followed government protocols and the government is also deciding to take more strict actions. Right now we're in lockdown. This wave seems to be a bit stronger as well since young people are losing lives too. Hopefully the situation gets better quicker than before. Be safe out there.
I enjoy reading pleasant, respectful, and thoughtful conversations on RUclips. So rare to find.
you mean misunderstood?do we eat rat bro?do we use cow urine for corona and not vaccine?are we that dumb?this guy is tripping hard and so are you guys for saying thank you for mentioning my country and so on,this guy is destroying the image of our country with all the bs and misinformation to the western world and there you guys go with your Thankful shit..
@john mishra yeah don't even bother with these westerners bro,they act like they wanna learn but all they're really doing is picking on certain things to push their agenda like usual,I respect the ones that respect other people and their traditions but people like this guy deserves no attention.
I am Nepali, I have been to parts of Rural Nepal but eating rat is not common at all. Certain people of caste and community do but its not common in overall
Actually it’s very rare
I'm from nepal and this is the first time I'm hearing about it..thought he was capping hard,kun chai caste le khanxa ra?
He said RAM .. he meant goat ( khasi ) in Nepali. Aba bujyo keto 😉
@@karmapolice5532 haha aah,goat banya bhai bhaihalthyo ta
I’m sure extreme poorest people do that forever in every country.
“The worst human attribute is self certainty” well said
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Pride and vanity are the worst lol
You’ve got it wrong. There’s nothing wrong with a man having pride and self certainty. That’s what’s wrong with your generation. Men, except without the testicle part
@@vanpeters9751 self certainty is a derivative of pride, vanity, ego, etc.
@@280SE you're an idiot pride and vanity are products of ego and only weigh the soul down if you can feel shame then you can't feel remorse and will be stuck here
I admire him for using "rural nepal". The urban side is pretty modern these days.
Its not pretty but its polluted and poltician needs to be KO'ed by nanganou
Not really modern its just wannabes
@@amanshah7015 🤣🤣🤣
@@ronishpra you do you bro
@@amanshah7015 usage is key
I feel like this guy could describe his experience at a Tijuana donkey show and the valuable lessons he learned from it, and we’d all just be like “yeah that makes sense”
A good Donkey show is fine art compared to the contemporary modern art of today.
I remember that cartoon Tijuana toad
Yep
lol
Being a Nepali myself this Zimmerman guy is actually telling facts how did he knew about all of these by living for only 2 years
😂 i was like iv been there as a child but i wasn’t that involved in the social structure and context
No he ain't,is there a fact in nepalese eating rat?cow urine for corona and not vaccine?wtf you talking about and not everyone is forced,love marriage is a huge thing here too and people marry whoever they want all the time,wtf
@@stoic5482 you fool, he clearly said he visited rural areas. No shit that cities are gonna be more westernised and progressive in thinking.
@@Asyphinix are you even from here?My original home is in rural hills called pyuthan,I live in kathmandu too and yeah even if he's talking about rural areas,it still doesn't hold that much relevance in present day context but he's speaking shit from way back and portraying it such in present day context,what you on?
Firstly, he isn't talking about present days. Secondly, He is talking about his experiences not yours. Some places are still in the condition as he was talking about.
Consumption of urine for corona is done by Indians which joe said he don't know the places. Nepalese still consume cow's during poojas. Eating rat is rare but I have seen children who used to hunt rat whole day and fry in the field and consume it. So, STFU and be rational. Dig deeper into the rural stories.
Refreshing to have a guy like this on the podcast
Reminds me more of the old JRE
Before he sold out and said he’s getting vaccinated?
@@godschosenpeople5084 before he became a megaphone for right wing “commentators”
@@pattran4057 So you are against free speech?
Right
@@pattran4057 you liked your own comment. I didn’t.
Happy to listen all these years。 mentioning about my country was a joy . Thanks joe.
Beautiful country
🔥🔥
Free Tibet
@@tdog5993 tried calling the spiritual leader of Tibet.
I was sent a goat with a long neck. Turns out I was calling Dial a lama. Lol 😆
So STFU and don't make everything about you for once.
@@jinnij9721 about me? You on drugs? I am not from Tibet so how is that about me?
Joe should visit Nepal one day, He has a lot of fans here. He would get his mind blown learning about the different cultures and rituals.
also the weed here is next level
@@ayoogorkhali9262 yup, can't argue with that.
@@ayoogorkhali9262 Say no more.. Im comming
he should bring NIms dai to podcast.
That stuff is interesting. But honestly the western influence in Thamel and Pokhara were the most fun.. and the wild monkeys. Also how the infrastructure is.
This is legitimately one of the best episodes Joe’s done in a while. Love it and love the guest.
This guy is great. Hope he comes back on the podcast !
Zimmerman dai ko nepali lai thumbs up.
cheers here
Mero pani thumbs up hai
Ayo hai ayo
Sahi ho
Joe rogan is 🔥🔥
The amazing thing is, that we from a country with a 50% divorce rate are so sure that our way is best.
fax
Are you saying forced marriage is better?
@@Redallstar1 Lmao what a joke. Don’t strawman. What are you so afraid of?
@@Redallstar1 I'm saying that the idea that Western cultures, which include in the US a 50% + divorce rate, judging the validity of other systems, is at best extremely arrogant. I have seen incredible successes in family chosen marriages, and awful failures. And the same in American marriages. The idea that one is clearly superior is silly and pretentious...
@@steveschulte1207 Well said. There are many areas where western civilisation can rightly claim to be superior, marriage and relationships aren't one of them.
he is wise, he is certainly an empath. World needs more people like him
If you don't fall for love . You never fell out of love and go for a divorce . Wooooffffff That's some serious thing to think upon
Yeah it sounds interesting,but love by definition doesn't fall, it's unconditional.
You can't give birth/adopt someone and suddenly stop being their parent.
Maybe we're calling lust and attractiveness love, we're so hurry to call any emotion love and that's the problem
@@fenugreekqueen6805 the thing is we are not talking about kids here .
It about marriage there is statics that love marriage break more then a arranged one .
But the thing is we are very ill informed about love . What we call love today is very alien what love is .
Love is not about laughing together whole love is to whom with you can suffer anything even a fucking nuclear explosion and you won't run away .
But what you see is the very second a men loss his job he get a divorce served . Because western mindset is only leaving happy matter . They should not be a problem never if there will I will fucking divorce you and marry someone richer then you .
You can't be angry on me ever I mean isn't it going against nature of a human and gene editing it . A man who can love will get angry .
Why indian marriage work because we believe that we will suffer ever day we will shout fight cry and may be laugh someday but will not leave each other not because we can't . But because world is same with every next human the process is same so how many of them we will change . You just can't change world or a second person you can only change yourself so do it
As he said you do develop feelings eventually. It's just like how you are likely to be friends with someone for your life but less likely to be in love with the same person for life.
Arrange marriage is all about probability and statistics. To minimise the loneliness.
Life is suffering ~ Buddha
@@fenugreekqueen6805 "We: Understanding the Psychology of Romantic Love" is a great book that explores the difference between what the author calls "romantic love", which is an intense emotional experience that happens to you, and "human love", which is something you commit to (can also be thought of devotion and understanding).
in Nepal arrange marriages are declining rapidly and they just the same finding love like western now
Being a Nepalese and living in nepal, I must say it's true.
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I dont think it applies to Kathmandu.
@@regankhadka4631 what?
@@regankhadka4631 I'd say it does applies, albeit to a lesser degree. Arranged marriage and girl leaving her house to live in husband is still very common even in Kathmandu. Caste system is also deep rooted in Nepali society, though yes I'd like to think most people don't discriminate based on caste.
It's like yah n nah also... My parents ran away n did love marriage whereas my Grandparents are too many , lots of uncle's n aunt LMFAO
One thing can't be denied 🤣😂😏🇳🇵 I would love to born in this country again.. we have so many things here
Born in Nepal, been in the United States for 10 years, and also an engineer, I’ve never heard of anyone eating rats in Nepal. Also, my family still practices caste system and arranged marriage to a certain degree right here in the US. At dinner time, we discuss about individualistic western culture and how elderly are put into nursing homes instead of their children taking care of them.
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I've eaten rats in Tharu community....
they are called mushar of tharu community...
Its wrath bro i think which means lion ,
Lots of people eat rats in nepal most notably the musahar community in terai
Can't tell you how good it feels seeing my homeland mentioned on a mainstream channel.
I like how he never answered how old the dude marrying the 16 yr old was
Maybe around 30-35
Its usually of similar age.Stop making assumptions.
usually, they will be 5 years older, the boy must be out of the experimental phase if you know what I mean lol.
@@nycneprep2136 are you not yourself not making an assumption?
@@pandabear4565 they said usually. This isn’t a race to get your daughter married off the grossest old man out there. The entire point is to find someone desirable and cement family ties. It usually is a 4- 5 year age gap.
I was confident that he was once a Peace Corps Volunteer a couple minutes in. I served in three different countries with Peace Corps.
Nice. I served in Ukraine as a tefl volunteer.
"WOwww" is the most beautiful word that I love to hear from joy Rogan .♥️
Lots of love from Nepal .🇳🇵🇳🇵🇳🇵🇳🇵
We NEPALESE are proud of our sanatan and following lord pashupatinath 🙏🙏🙏💐💐💐
10:40 This is surreal, Here I'm from Rural Nepal.
love how he is so open-minded and accepting of different cultures and opinions.
Loved this conversation. Specially how narrates his experience without any judgement.
He is such an amazing person to listen to. The way he speak about things that he learned and experienced is immensely full of passion and respect for culture and language outside his own.
It was interesting listening to Jonathan. Almost everything he mentioned is almost right. Nepal is two different nations within a country if you compare the urban and the rural side. The rural areas is still very traditional and takes pride in the traditional values and culture whereas the urban areas are somehow different, modern and almost western to be honest. I'm pretty sure some Nepalese who are from the bigger cities in Nepal gets shocked and surprised by the rural traditions and culture when they visit the rural Nepal as well. The differences are there because of socio-economic situation, education, lack of exposure to the world, religion etc. As a Nepalese myself who has been living in Europe for half of my life and married to a European, I find the story somehow shocking myself but I don't disrespect that as well because I do understand the differences between the society within the country. Perhaps it will take some time until until the rural traditional ways changes but I definitely think its moving in right direction. ✌🇳🇵
This guy might make me go to Spotify....
@Powerful JRE Nice try
Scam artisté
It's really a great episode. One of the best ever imo.
Such immense understanding of community in a subtle way...and Uncle only spent 2 yrs
Love from Nepal JRE...
When he said that the worst human characteristic was self certainty I immediately exclaimed “Yes ! I agree with you” but then I thought “I’m I certain of that ?”
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@@moonmarketyoutube5748 thanks Joe Rogan. I will but I wanna know.. are you still coming this week-end ? Should I put some deer meat aside for you and your wife like usual ?
@@jonathannadeau6218 sure ✅
@@moonmarketyoutube5748 Can you pass on a message to Chris Rogers please?
@@moonmarketyoutube5748 oh wow Joe Rogan and his team are really responding to comments. That’s definitely not a comment from a fake account that was recently created for the purpose of scamming people.
Next Newsweek article: Joe Rogan says cow urine is a better cure for COVID-19 than the Vaccine
Tomorrows episode title "Clarification about joes stance on cow urine and covid"
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EXACTLY! His podcast is shut now anyway
EXACTLY! His podcast is shut now anyway
Are you saying joe didnt say 21 year olds dont need vaccines? Because he did and thats why he was criticised
Joe: "...did it work out?"
Jonathan: " ....it ALL works out."
Profound statement on reality
mehehe
Or they publicly burn the wife to death if she gets out of line
@@frankmaitland2569 No way that's true. Crime occurs in every part of the world. You don't get to generalize that. If a American man killed his wife, you don't go around saying they (Americans) kill their wives.
@@aashish_aryal i think you know that is a weak argument. Stupid drunks kill their wives in abusive relationships. Nothing to do with Honor or Dowry.
Listening to this episode, i came to realize that the norms we’ve been following in my country are just to make people understand that living as a social being is better than as an individual.
I am from Nepal and I'd like to say that our society is changing. Child marriage and untouchability is illegal now. Love marriage (choosing your own partner) is being common but even if your families choose your partner, you can have the final say. You're given some time to spend together with your potential future partner and get to know them, before marriage.
I'm fascinated how wise Zimmerman is. He accepted how things are in the other part of the world even though that's not acceptable for him. Our culture, what we do, how we do works for us. We have a sense of community and we want to be included in that community. We often care about what other people think, which has its own merits and demerits. This thought often stops us from doing bad things, this thought often make marriage work. I know our culture is different but it's neither right nor wrong, so is yours.
Do you include untouchables in your culture? Does it work for them?
Idk who this guy is..but the way he speaks, his voice, the way he articulates is so engrossing!
He sounds like Edward Snowden
I agree. He seems extremely intelligent and open minded.
and on top of that he's misinformating whole bunch out here,he may be talking about nepal in 80s/90s but shit has changed alot,we don't eat rat,we take vaccine not cow urine,child marriage is very illegal and 18 is the limit,love marriage existed,exist and will exist in nepal,this guy is acting like everyone here is forced or some shit..
" The worst human attribute is self certainty "
AMENNN
I am from Nepal, and I am glad to hear of his experiences in my country. They are all accurate.
This is why i tune in to this podcast, thank you !!!
M Nepalese working in United Arab Emirates..this guy put clear picture of remote parts of nepal..
I am shocked and my heart broke when I heard still untouchabilities exist in nepal.
Im amazed by how vividly he explains it all including the Nepali language. He really respects our culture and everything that he said is true in rural areas except the 'rat' part in the beginning. Maybe I haven't been to more remote places myself.
I am from Nepal. Now 30 years old. My grandmother got married when she was 10 years old, she had her first child when she was 21. After 68 years of marriage, my grandfather died, due to the shock of that she lost her mind and died 2 years after that. There are lot more to it than you see from the outside!
Thank you Joe for having these podcasts with such fascinating conversations with all your guests. I REALLY WISH that there were more teachers like Zimmerman. I think a lot of what is happening wouldn’t be- we’d have to think more, and listen more, true open mindedness-
This may or may not be the type of guy that smiles and laughs at everything said
I was born in Nepal and lived half of my life there so I think I understand the arrange marriage tradition (although this practice is more prevalent in rural nepal than the cities). It is about propagation of the lineage like the guest pointed out but to be specific, I think it’s about financial security and maintaining or improving ones’ social status. Not saying it’s wrong or right but that’s the mind set. And as far as married couple sharing the same household is concerned, in rural nepal and other poor parts of the world they don’t have a choice but to do that because they make very little and can’t afford to get a place of your own. And the way you make it work is by staying together and helping each other out in any you can. Like any tradition, this one too is a product of the environment.
That is just another argument, probably one of the factors, but there are many more. To counter your argument, arrange marriage happen in cities between people of different economic status. Then there is Kundali matching before marriage too. Our system is more based on what works and what doesn't and is backed by data (as most marriage work).
What a great unbiased conversation from both.
Conversation to the next level.
WOW I loved hearing this dude speak. Never heard of him before but I will read and hear plenty from him going forwards.
Joe has a tough time understanding cultural relativism.
Cultural relativism like moral relativism is a flawed terminology.
You're from Nepal?
@@kushaldiyalisunar2753 Kina bhai ? Rastra geet gaune hoh ra sang sangaii ?
@William Rockwell lol
Rogan wanted confirmation bias for his choice to be married for individual reasons.
Rogan was ready to laugh if the arranged marriage failed. He doesn't understand they marry for family, and community rather than selfish individuals reasons
I am from Nepal and he potrayed everything really well. Most of the things he said were correct. But the system is evolving now, people are falling in love more often and marrying their loved ones
I love how Jonathan dai say "MY VILLAGE" .. Shows the love he has for that place..
Glad to hear some talks about Nepal in this podcast 🇳🇵🇳🇵🇳🇵❤❤
i love how he explained everything about our culture the good and bad all without judgement. every society has their own virtues and vices. he had experienced both living in nepal and knows he can talk about the bad parts give crticism without coming off as the entitled white guy who knows better.
Would love to see more people who have visited Nepal talk about Nepal.It's our country with uniquest culture.
Mad respect to him describing our culture so beautifully respectfully and gracefully🇳🇵🇳🇵
I kind of took it as your average Westerner being somewhat condescending. Not nearly as bad as most but still kind of offended at some of those cultural norms.
Personally I'm not. There is a lot more going on there than simply marrying off a daughter. If you're lucky enough to have a beautiful daughter that can be a step stone to building generational wealth through the dowry.
I really liked and appreciated the way that Jonathan talked about Nepal, looking at it with an Open Mind. Thank you and Joe for giving your views upon such a small country like Nepal.
"baini lai kasto lagyo" you got me there pal. Love and regards all the way from Nepal 🇳🇵
“There are many different ways to be human” - well said and sometimes forgotten by those who believe they have a Trust on regulating culture and behavior on everybody, not just they’re own nation
I am from Nepal and the notion that love marriage is strange in Nepal like he is trying to potray is flat out wrong
Shikhar, break it down then. Tell us a little of what's factual in ur opinion.
@@MadCatMaddie Do you really need that explained lmao
@@MadCatMaddie I am from Nepal as well and the thing this guy is talking about is from Rural Nepal. And everything he is saying still does happen in some areas of Nepal, especially the western region. However, if you come to the city areas like Kathmandu, Pokhara, or Lalitpur, the story is completely different.
Nepal is significantly diverse when it comes to demography. For a country this small, we have over 120 national languages, and hundreds of different cultures. So most things would depend on what part of Nepal do you live in.
I am from nepal as well.
What he is saying may be true in remote parts of nepal or traditional communities, but that for sure is not exact reality of most nepali. Arranged marriages are common but a girl is rarely forced into marriages.
it is important to note that, despite being a small country, nepal has lots of diversity in culture (probably due to centuries of geographical barriers among other things), so these generalisations must be taken with a grain of salt.
@@MadCatMaddie basically people can marry whoever they want,arrange marriage happens when son/daughter can't find love by themselve so there parents find mates for them..there you go opinion from a nepali
Finally mine dream comes true, I love to see someone talking about Nepal in jre podcast. Much love from 🇳🇵
This is the kinda stuff that got me listening to you Joe! Keep it up 👌👏
I am a Nepalese student in Russia and I’ve been following JRE for a while now. My huge respect to Jonathan for sharing his genuine and unbiased review on Nepal’s rural norms and traditions. I have watched similar kind of videos/vlogs from Russians on Nepal. They openly shared how disgusted they were by the Nepalese norms, traditions and the ignorance of people. I think Respect/empathy is what separates a great nation from the others.
तुरंत पाइन छ।👍🏽
Who are these Russian vloggers you're talking about?
I am the first-gen Nepalese living in the USA, I came to the USA when I was 30, all I want to say here is as much as arranged marriage is shocking in the USA, divorce is equally shocking in parts of Nepal! And as Jon said, "It all works out!"
From Nepal. Lots of love.
Good to hear about beautiful country Nepal 🇳🇵
Joe: How old was the guy?
....... Joe still waiting to know how old the guy was
Greatest deflection ever
Guy gives me the heebee jeebies
@@LeChina You know damn well that guy was probably 50 or something weird like that 😂
@@joefondu just by these clips Joe seems uneasy with him
@@blackout2430 No this is very very rare. It happens if the man has a great social and economic status in a community. The parents will marry off their young daughter to 40 or 50 years old. Usually the girls get married to the boy who is around her age and upto 5 to 6 years older but not younger than the girl. I know this because I am from Nepal but I don't live in rural part of Nepal.
Zimmerman: "The shoemakers are untouchable"
Joe: "Because they deal with shoes"
Zimmer: "Because the deal with calves, leather"
*Calves
@@blackout07blue Edited. I'll leave you to it, you've got a busy day correcting every bit of grammar on RUclips
he said 'cows', not 'calves'.
I wonder where did he lived in Nepal? It's so nice to watch you guys discussing something that I've been so skeptical about. Because I'm from Nepal and it is very informative to hear the perspective from West culture.
What a nice guy,i love his way of talking,so peacefull
Love from Nepal 🇳🇵
Train by day
Joe rogan by night
All day baby
That guy just pointed out some of the most extreme and bizarre taboos in Nepal and all that you're looking for is a shout out ?
Try to learn from a third person view.
@@tonikpun9955 tei bhanya
@@tonikpun9955 Here comes the typical Nepali guy with narrow outlook with his stupid opinion and tries to be genius for everything.😂
I just had the joy of nepal being mentioned. I am sure they are open minded enough to understand the vastness of our country. Get a life bro and rather stay in the comment section of Nepali pages where you can find a lot of genuis people like you ready to prove their point. 😂😂
@@tonikpun9955 extreme and bizzare? What he talked about is very common in Nepal, especially in rural areas. Even in cities, arranged marriage is much more common than love marriage. And girl leaving house to stay at husband's house is pretty much how our culture works. And caste system still exists and is followed to various degrees depending on the place.
@@overshot8331 yeah, right, not extreme and bizarre in Nepal. That's exactly the point. If you are under the impression that child marriage and caste discrimination is not so much of a big deal, then well, whatever makes you happy.
Interesting discussion and interests me as a geographer. Human cultures are varied and interesting. To set aside your own value system and get into their heads is always a trip.
I needed this thanks for the clip.
I really like listening to the guy.. he’s so open, non judgmental, and smart
As a Nepali listening about The caste system that divides our society Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas and the Shudras.....it was made century ago and we still following this in 21st century makes me feel bad ...it was refreshing to listen
Still following? I see nobody following it in city areas. You must be in rural nepal or belong to an illiterate family
@@mama-xm7mb bro you must from ktm and think ktm is all nepal ...open your eye dont you read the news what happen Few month ago.. One guy was killed by whole village because he married higher cast girl... And my family more education then your and we dont believe in this caste system....we are not like you that think we dont have these problems... We have these problems that we need to slove together
Nalin Pradhan brother, you missed my point. Ktm is not whole Nepal and rural villages are not whole Nepal. Things are drastically different. So do not generalise is my argument. But yes we all need to solve it together
I really enjoyed the conversation between Jon and Joe. You could tell Jon has such a deep respect for Joe. He took such a deep interest in Joes life and beliefs, even showing genuine compassion and concern when Joe mentions he grew up without a father.
Yeahh!! Finally....love From Kathmandu, Nepal!!!!
Always wanted to hear about my country in JRE. Nepal ❤️
Never ever had I thought Nepal would be mentioned in joe rogan. Yes that Sarki thing is real in rural part of Nepal.
From India, and every time Joe goes "wow" "OMG" makes me chuckle.
I am from Nepal and I like this podcast so I immediately clicked.
What an incredible experience it must’ve been to go live in a country for years that is so different your own.
Joe if you're reading this, there's more to arranged marriage. In the rural areas Jonathon is talking about, it oftentimes may seem bizarre, but you have to understand that there is A LOT of effort that goes into making sure that the correct person is selected - they filter for the same characteristics that you might if you were looking for your own partner (financial stability, kindness, physical attractiveness, education, etc.). This is not a system where they get married off with no respect for what is best for them, the fundamental difference is that the person who does that evaluation is your parents instead of yourself - who usually acts in your best interest on your behalf with the benefit of life experience.
Moreover, arranged marriage in countries like India now, outside of the rural traditional systems, has evolved. It's more akin to matchmaking where the people involved have a say and a veto. So your parents will set you up with potential matches, the people will hang out, and either they click and decide to do it or they say no and the process goes on.
American's seem to misunderstand the system altogether to be motivated by oppression and greed, which is not true. I'm not saying there aren't pros and cons, but my point here is simply to explain the justification of the system and why it works in other parts of the world.
Hm... so it's like a non-internet dating app- not invented but an evolved cultural system
@@Telonious_Terp No. It's a patriarchial bullshit custom that treats women as property. It's fucked and should be done away with.
thanks. i dont remember but, i watched a show i think on netflix where that was the whole thing. arranged matchmaking in india. we tend to apply our understandings from our bubbles onto others outside it without really trying to understand why they might be doing what they are doing and how it works. and maybe im crazy, but i do think a lot of blame can be placed on media and organized religion. for example if youve been around indians or the like they may have a smell. growing up all i knew was that there was a smell. it wasnt until i asked that i understood it was bc of foods/spices. ppl just dont ask so they assume and even have a hard time listening when being told. so again thanks for your explanation even if my own comment comes across as nonsense
@@observantmonkey4055 I understand what you are saying. The bubble is very real. Arranged marriage is not even a specifically South Asian thing - it’s practiced most places. The entire Arab world for example is 100% traditional arranged marriage, much less liberal than the system that’s evolved in modern India. Lots of Eastern European societies too. Modern western liberalism isn’t as widespread as we might like to imagine in our English speaking bubble of the internet
@@desidark1243 agree. im very lucky i feel, to have started my schooling in an extremely diverse school. so i kinda got to see the differences between diff. kinds of ppl. we could ease a lot of tensions if ppl understood what you said and thought with fresh and open minds when dealing with different kinds of ppls cultures etc. just make this process of society so much easier to..."handle" and progress.
❤️ Thx Joe
Love from Nepal❤️🇳🇵
Really beautiful show & thanks for explored our culture❤️
I've been listening to JRE for years now and I've heard Nepal mentioned a lot of time in the last month. Weird to hear but feels good myan
The roots of culture and caste system in Nepal is designed for the survival of the species. Moreover, arrange marriage is not as bad as it sounds. If you see the stats in Nepal and India, arrange marriage have more sucess rate than love marriage. However, things change people change belief change. Nothing is permanent. So good to see Nepal and Nepali culture discussed in JRE. Joe I think you should invite Sadhguru to your show for a better understading of hindu culture and way the society works over here in the EAST. Love from Nepal :)
His voice is so soft. Im about to fall asleep
Me too. And I'm driving.
@@JerseySlayer I’m at work😂
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He explained about our culture which even i couldn't understand. Cheers kaka haru.
Having Nepal as a topic on Joe's podcast thats awesome.
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Wise Man!!!! Thank you for this Joe
His view on conservatives and republicans is narrow and shaded by negative stereotypes. I thought he sounded like a dope. Very surface level messages with no answers or ideas on how to fix any problems. Same old garbage, different day
@@saltyzu8412 what a coincidence I feel the same way about you and your opinions and ideas 🤷🏾
P.s. your cat looks stupid 😭💀
@@saltyzu8412 not everyone tries to solve the world’s problems every time they sit down for a conversation
Thanks a lot Jonathan...to explore the nepal life style to your country with your experience ...love for you by gurkhali boy 👦aashis
We want to see Full episode of Jonathan!
How many different ways there are to be human. True wisdom...live and let live.
Indeed how many wrong ways lol its ok to disagree with cultures or practices that are just morale wrong.
Yep. Being human is great, if you're not a 16 year old Nepalese girl being sold off for marriage.
@@kewrock I guarantee she was younger than 16 more likely she was 12-14 but the guy didnt wanna be outed as a total piece of crap so he upped the age.
@@firstorder438 Im not saying its right or wrong. I think to change people's minds you cant just show up and condemn their beliefs as wrong to their face.
@@firstorder438 like American culture?
Haha you made prime time news Joe.
Lol whut?
Who the foooook watches the news 🤣 also, I love your videos 🤘🏽🤙🏼 keep that shit going!!
@@25schmeckles55 the White House was talking trash about joe r
Prime time news is dead lol Tim Dillon will be the first to tell you.
@@vildachaya6462 haha no way lol, i got to find this
well I loved the way he spoke nepali
love from Nepal Joe.
I m frm Nepal and all he said was absolutely correct, the cities are practicing the modern things whereas all these things are valid in rural parts.