Tier Ranking the Board Game Geek Top 100 Board Games!
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Join us as we tier rank the entire board game geek top 100 best board games of all time in a single video! Scream at your screen as Mike goes through some of the most beloved board games on the planet and then heartlessly rates those games an F!
Giant Timestamp for Games:
1:02 - Kingdom Death Monster
2:15 - Twilight Struggle
2:50 - Barrage
3:44 - Mechs Vs. Minions
5:00 - On Mars
5:36 - Anachrony
6:32 - Pax Pamir
6:55 - Eclipse
7:40 - Food Chain Magnate
8:45 - Kanban EV
9:55 - Decrypto
10:45 - Brass Lancashire
11:13 - Crokinole
12:20 - Castles of Burgundy
13:20 - Power Grid
14:35 - Obsession
15:40 - Wingspan
16:35 - Scythe
17:20 - Through the Ages A New Story of Civilization
18:40 - Dominant Species
19:25 - The Crew Mission Deep Sea
20:32 - Great Wester Trail
21:30 - Cthulhu Death May Die
22:20 - Beyond the Sun
23:10 - Race for the Galaxy
23:54 - Clank
25:10 - Viticulture
26:12 - Sleeping Gods
27:18 - Mage Knight
28:16 - Le Havre
29:11 - Brass Birmingham
30:15 - Star Wars Rebellion
30:55 - The Search for Planet X
31:45 - The Gallerist
33:00 - Too Many Bones
34:00 - Caverna
34:42 - Fields of Arle
35:50 - The Voyages of Marco Polo
36:40 - Cascadia
37:17 - Clans of Caledonia
38:00 - Ark Nova
39:19 - Marvel Champions
40:08 - Hegemony
41:13 - Orleans
42:14 - Concordia
43:35 - Quacks of Quedlinburg
44:45 - Nemesis
45:52 - Azul
47:00 - Twilight Imperium
48:11 - A Feast for Odin
48:58 - Terra Mystica
49:53- Battlestar Galactica
50:45 - War of the Ring
51:45 - El Grande
52:30 - Underwater Cities
53:20 - Gloomhaven
54:14 - Inis
54:51 - Dune Imperium
55:40 - Oathsworn
56:25 - Gloomhaven Jaws of the Lion
56:57 - Grand Austria Hotel
57:45 - Tainted Grail
58:42 - 7 Wonders Duel
59:27 - Agricola
1:00:40 - Blood Rage
1:01:18 - Android Netrunner
1:02:17 - Teotihuacan
1:03:03 - Lost Ruins of Arnak
1:04:16 - 7 Wonders
1:05:08 - Peurto Rico
1:05:56 - Terraforming Mars
1:07:06 - Pandemic Legacy
1:08:03 - Five Tribes
1:09:15 - Mansions of Madness
1:10:00 - Gaia Project
1:10:57 - Robinson Crusoe
1:12:16 - Maracaibo
1:13:15 - Arkham Horror the Card Game
1:14:15 - Architects of the West Kingdom
1:15:30 - Everdell
1:16:35 - Root
1:17:22 - Aeons End
1:18:21 - Lisboa
1:19:00 - Paladins of the West Kingdom
1:19:51 - Heat Pedal to the Metal
1:20:36 - Trickerion
1:21:47 - Spirit Island
1:22:33 - Tzolk'In The Mayan Calendar
1:23:25 - Star Wars Imperial Assault
1:24:24 - Lords of Waterdeep
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Boardgamebollocks is so so good!
I had to remind myself multiple times "This is your list. This is your list. This is your list." lmao
Actually this was a purely objective tier list bestowed upon me from a higher power. It is the only truth! I saw Agricola ranked F in a dream!
Scythe not been on s tier was tough haha
@@FelipeMoreira-r7eI've only played it once and hated it 😭
@@FelipeMoreira-r7e Scythe is very far from S-tier. It is good, that's cool...but it is simply lacking both in depth and simplicity. It's like it takes the wrong angles where it matters and while there is no bitter aftertaste, you are somehow thinking "I wish it had some spices to make it better.". It's not a subjective observation but something that most people felt after playing it. There is simply too much room for improvement.
The fact you’ve played so many games is admirable, makes your opinion very informative
Too much time on my hands!
Don't worry about offending anyone. Most people understand the opinions aren't personal attacks. Rock on turtle
Most certainly do, but not everyone! This wouldn't happen to be the Paul Hudson I know that lives in Korea, would it?
The one and only@@TabletopTurtle
Sir, this is youtube.
@@paulhudson6487 Haha nice! When you coming back? Didn't even know you watched!
@@TravistheGREAT03 False. Sir, this is a Wendy's.
It's a relief to find someone who's honest about there opinion and doesn't sugar coat things. Thanks for the content!
My pleasure and thank you! Being honest and shooting the shit is sort of the vibe we want to go with on this channel. More like you're just talking shit with your friends rather then listening to a PR sales pitch.
I didn't think I was going to sit through your entire list but I did. I was captivated. Just your presentation style alone is fantastic, at least for me. And also it seems like our tastes align for the most part. For all the subs you may have lost. You gained one from me. Lol. Great job and super helpful
Thank you! I bet we have super similar top 100s as well!
Agricola is a love or hate game. I love how tight and strategtic it is .
It's a game I can for sure see people loving, unlike some other games that are popular like Kingdom Death Monster lol
@@TabletopTurtleKDM is easily my favourite game, and I’ve played a 1000+ games and the vast majority of the top 100.
The combat is way more dynamic and strategic than Gloomhaven (and I love Gloomhaven, but it does get samey fast); KDM going stale takes a near infinite amount of time. I have like 200 sessions under my belt, and I’m nowhere near done with it.
There’s a clear reason those who like it, love it, and it’s basically a hobby unto itself.
As I have said in some other youtubers comments, I love when youtbers are really clear with what they like or do not like. It helps me more than everyone trying to just sugercoat stuff to not get beef from publishers etc... I might not agree with some of your and/or others likes/dislikes but I learn a lot more from this kind of straightforwardness as long as it comes with some sort of eplanation of sorts. =)
It seems everyone hedges their opinions these days to not step on publisher toes. It's a lot more fun just saying what you feel about a game both for the viewer and for myself!
I kept thinking there was a Thinkpad ad that was failing to load at the bottom of the screen but it was just your laptop
I like how fast you went through each game without some long winded explanation....just the facts and what you really thought of the games. Well done.
Thanks for the effort with this video. It's very interesting to hear some else's view on games that we play. As with you, Ark Nova stays on our table for weeks on end and we just love it. I found it very interesting that you didn't like Maracaibo. It might be because it was my first heavier game, but I love it. Especially when we played the story mode with the board changing every game. I also love the multiuse cards. After this video there are so many games I want to play, with so little time!
Just don't go spending all your money on games, Mr, or you're grounded!
I may have disagreed with some of your personal takes on some of the board games, but this was an absolutely incredible video! You’ve earned another subscriber. It’s pretty rare that I tune in with full attention for over an hour on a RUclips video 😂
Thank you! We all have the games we love and hate. Feel free to watch the top 100 video, which is also over an hour, so you can never be productive in your day! 😂
@@TabletopTurtle I second the previous comment. I'm also glad to find out that there's someone else in the world that's not attracted to dexterity games and is not afraid of saying it in public. :)
Your honesty and bluntness is refreshing and entertaining! Underrated channel 💯🔥
Thank you very much! I appreciate the kind words! Hopefully we become massive.
I don’t know why. I ended up watching the whole thing like a podcast as I do my housework. Very good! Gives just enough depth without dragging at all.
Happy to entertain! Now, you can save the top 100 video for when you're cleaning the bathroom. Although at some point we are going to have to start charging for this cleaning service.
I absolutely loved that you just kept it real and kicked the games you didn't like but you made it a fair point to tell why almost every time! This video is an A-tier... It's an A for me :-)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good work.. can’t believe I watched until the end.. 😮
Haha hey nothing wrong with that. Happy to assist in your procrastinating! 😁
Another great video - found your takes really interesting, and think it's always great to see differing perspectives on stuff
Happy you're enjoying them! I've always been a huge fan of negative reviews too, even for games I love. Just nice to see something new.
I’m a first time watcher of your video, and I went all the way through this. You took some bold choices in the F row, which kept me watching.
I appreciate that. It certainly feels strange giving games in a top 100 low tier ranks, but we all like what we like and sometimes what's popular may not be a very good game to us.
T.I. 4th Edition is worth the upgrade!
agenda phase is much more interesting: you get all your planets refreshed before and after and you vote on two agendas back to back....tech is more streamlined....trading is more interesting because of commodities...players can have multiple secret objectives....objective cards are revealed automatically....taking AND holding mecatol Rex is rewarded....and the rules are a bit easier to follow.
No shade to T.I. 3rd Edition, I just like all those changes in addition to updated visuals.
That's almost a pity to hear because the cost of the game is so high! But if I must, I must!
Great video! We have wildly different opinions on games but I respect it!
As long as your entertained!
This actually made me realize that we oftentimes align quite well. I think the main game I disagreed on was Heat, that is S-tier for me.
That's fair. It is a really good party-type game that people seem to really love.
This has to be the most underrated board game channel out there! Great content as always! Keep up the great work your tier lists have been some of the best I’ve seen! 👏
Thank you very much! Appreciate the view and the kind words! I'll try to keep making them better.
Ooooo love the honesty on the “not for me” nonsense that a lot of RUclipsrs say. That earns a like from me right away!
It gets a little annoying sometimes. Especially when you see a creator like something that you know they typically wouldn't like.
Thanks so much for your work dude. I watched from Start to finish out of respect for the timelenght. Cheers :)
Haha well thank you very much for the dedication!
Just a note, if you rank Clank games in A-Tier, try the legacy version: it's amazing. Easy S-Tier.
First ranking earned respect for boldness and honesty. Second built confidence for having a solid opinion on a solid game. Third sealed the deal as you called out a hyper-overrated game as just okay, which is all Barrage is. I’ll watch this whole thing and have faith in your assessments of the ones I haven’t played.
Do people really love Crokinole that much? I’ve met zero people who have ever been hyped about that game. Also, CoB in S-Tier is solidifying my trust. The affect of Lancashire at D is contingent upon where you place the obviously superior Birmingham.
Hating Le Havre: S-Tier opinion. Oh, and here’s Birmingham at S. Fantastic work!
Overrated Feast for Odin in C and timeless Terra Mystica in A, let’s gooooooo!!!!
UwC: the hype is real! All I hear about this game is hate lately. And I love it. A is well deserved.
Agricola in F is maybe one or two tiers too low, but anywhere below B is applauded! Nice! And Blood Rage in A to follow it up is perfect. I just wish I had the group for it! 😭
I actually really like these tier lists, it's quite visual and I can quickly see how your interests and compare them to mine. The long form content also really helps me get through the day while I'm working
Good! I'm always curious if people really want long form content because RUclips is just filled with 5-15 minute videos.
You had me hooked right away with the "I hate this game". Haha love it. Straight to the point and honest
Haha thanks! Can't hype all the games or viewers will go bankrupt!
Haven't played most, but from what I've played here's my rankings:
S-Tier: Gloomhaven: Jaws of the Lion, Twilight Struggle, 7 Wonder Duel, Mansions of Madness: Second Edition, Race for the Galaxy
A-Tier: Spirit Island, Through the Ages, Castles of Burgundy, Root, Blood Rage, Agricola, Sleeping Gods, Tzolk'in: The Mayan Calendar, Le Havre
B-Tier: Gaia Project, Nemesis, Terra Mystica, Mage Knight Board Game, Crokinole, Star Wars: Imperial Assault, Android: Netrunner, Lords of Waterdeep, Battlestar Galactica, Architects of the West Kingdom
I'm sure if I had played more there would be some in lower tiers but I genuinely enjoy all of the games I've played off the top 100
Still a ton of quality games on that list! Should make a new years resolution for yourself and see if you can play the top 100
thanks for the video this was a perfect watch for batch painting my miniature models, Nemesis sound cool.
What are you painting this evening?
@@TabletopTurtle black templars I’ve been in the hobby a little over a year and I am about to finish my first model lol. I have been batch painting models all year at around 80% completion.
@@Whammy777 Oh damn! Exciting! Hopefully you keep the momentum going!
I had the same opinion on Gaia Project! My friends all said I was wrong when I told them that I prefer to play Terra Mystica but I told them it just doesn't feel like the extra stuff really adds value. Glad I'm not alone. Still a fun game though.
I don't understand why people are obsessed with just adding more shit to an already great game. Chess and Go do not need an expansion or update.
Very fun video again. Keep ‘m coming!
Thanks! Will do! I appreciate your kind words.
I really enjoyed this video. I am really sorry that after many years Troyes is no longer a bgg top 100 game, you couldn't comment in this video. I would be curious of your opinion about it though.
I really like. It's among one of the best 3 player euros out there. It's sitting on my shelves.
Absolutlwy wild right off the bat. I consistently point to Kingdom death as having the best combat system ive played in a board game, while gloomhavens is, to me at least, extremely medicore. Gloomhaven has only made it to my table 2 or 3 times because my group thinks kingdom death is so much better in every way.
Really!?!? You're blowing my mind. You just love those boob and penis monsters! Don't lie! I won't tell anyone!
@@TabletopTurtleyou literally have to go out of your way to find the nudity or buy special figs that have nothing to do with the game. Admit it you didnt give the game an actual chance because it had content you didnt like.
I'm being facetious. I don't care about tit and dick monsters, in fact I think they're neat. I gave the game almost a dozen chances and I hated it. Sorry.
@@TabletopTurtle Totally get it, different strokes for different folks. It's just surprising that we can agree on almost all other games, yet you have my #1 game of all time lol
For the most part we’re closely aligned on thoughts (within 1, maybe 2 tiers). Only games I’d strongly switch around are Maracaibo and Twilight Struggle. Really didn’t enjoy Twilight Struggle, and I’m hoping that World Order (next Hegemony team game) creates something far more interesting.
Really? I hope there is one or two games that employ that same card play mechanic that you like, because it is pretty unique. 1960 Making of the President? Labyrinth? Watergate? Yeah, I have my eyes on World Order as well.
Man, I really liked this video concept! I found myself agreeing with you about 60% of the time, and shocked for about 20% of it. My only one request/critique/suggestion . . . if you honestly don't recall your Architects of the West Kingdom game, then I'd ask you to play again with at least 3-4 other players. The resource gathering is pretty basic, but the arresting/gathering mechanic makes the game unforgettable. And with more players the interactions are quite hilarious.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! A 60 percent agreement rate is pretty good. Maybe I'll retry architects if someone brings It over some time.
I’m 12 minutes in and you’ve given my two favorite games an F!
Consider me subscribed!
haha welcome aboard! Now you can just buy what I hate!
hah nice "asking the bar guy" analogue, delivered on it immediately too.
Now we just need to add alcohol!
You can tier list designers / board games by category / board games from specific designers / boardgames that you’ve played the most ( 20+ plays) / your partners top 100
Those are all awesome ideas and I'm writing them all down. Tier lists are so fun.
Great vid! Well done
Glad you enjoyed it
never hear of Mech vs Minions, but if is on the TOP, is probably just because is a League of Legends theme board game.
and a lot of people LOVE tristana
My DotA brain isn't registering some of the words you're using.
Man, I wish I could sort through my own collection with such an objective approach as yours. I get so passionate about all kinds of different boardgames I have here and it becoms really hard to part ways with them, even though, I may not be so hot for them after all.
When going through our collection I always try to remind myself that I'm building an Olympic team of board games and mediocre or even just good will not make the cut! If there hasn't been a time I've craved a game I own in a year or two and it's not a super situational game (like an eight player), it's gone!
@@TabletopTurtle thanks for the insight, having an Olympic team of boardgames sounds pretty good. Despite the struggle I actually managed to cull my collection quite a bit. There have been times my collection had more then 200 games in it and now I'm down to 73 games (and some expansions). I'm pretty satisfied so far, but want to get the number to 50 or below someday. The goal is to reach a number of curated games that I not only want to play, but also can cicle through and play within a year.
@@fenrirsreign That's a huge cull! Sounds like you're doing just fine at being critical of things you love.
UWE= pronounced as UVA lol. Yeah I became one of those. Great video, happy to see the different tastes people have but also, the fact you played all these games is really great. Hegemony has quickly become my favorite game.
My German ancestors are now rolling in their graves in anger.
I appreciate your opinion and the video is well done... Even though I disagree with most of these ratings. the video itself is well done and clear and concise on your opinions for each game.
You can tell me the games you don't like and I'll buy them and I'll do the same for you and tell you the games I hate. Win!
Of the games I’ve played this is a solid list. Only major outlier is Agricola which is an S tier for me and even my wife who’s a relatively casual gamer. One of the tightest worker placement games, and the cards make the game infinitely replayable. It also plays really well at 2 players, and it doesn’t have to be a mean game if you choose not to play that way.
Totally agree with you on Oathsworn, I think it’s a little overhyped on BGG right now.
Yeah I'm an outlier for my taste in Agricola, for sure. We can only own so many freaking farming games!
First time viewer, this is a great video. The intro was a barrier for all those who are insecure!
Appreciate the kind words! It's surprising how many people get so upset when you say a game they love isn't a game you enjoy or that you think is bad.
51:26 Movie??!! It’s based on the book!
A mistake in an hour long video, and I got to deal with this bullshit?! Lol
@@TabletopTurtle haha, yes you do
I love Terraforming Mars and would love to hear which games does card synergy better than TM? 1:06:21
Arkham Horror LCG does get better when you have a full 8 scenario campaign, but the game has only gotten more finicky as time has gone on, so it’s probably good that you stopped before you started. It’s my favorite game, but it is definitely flawed.
I feel that's a big issue with card only games. It was the same thing as sentinels for me. There was so much overhead that I just went nuts.
Liked and subscribed! First time I visited your channel and I enjoyed this video a lot. And you saved me some money on Too Many Bones. I’ve heard people praise it so much but it’s clear I’d hate it for the same reasons you do!
I'm just as happy saving someone cash as selling the next big game! Don't watch my top 100 video, though . . . You'll go broke lol
As someone who had a weekly Twilight Imperium game going for several years, I recommend you try the Shattered Ascension community patch for 3e. It makes the game play much faster and with better balance. You can play it in 3 - 4 hours once everyone knows the rules.
That's beastly! I can't imagine playing the game that much. I think I used to play that variant for third edition and I did notice a significant difference.
the tier list makes it so much more digestible! I love it
Thank you! They're like mini reviews without intricate scoring.
My 2 favorite games are probably lost ruins of arnak and spirit island wish i was happy to see you rated highly. They both are super tactical where you dont know what you're going to uncover when you explore/dont know what fear card you're going to get and have to react to the game state. They both also have a light deckbuilding aspect which I think is fun. Spirit Island probably has more asynchronous features than Arnak (unless you get the arnak expansions) so I would say its more replayable but obviously the big differwnce is the cooperative vs. euro natures of the games. I will say the one thing I like more about Spirit Island is that you can vary the difficulty of the game a LOT depending on who you are playing with so that its always a fun challenge.
Yeah Spirit Island provides a great cooperative experience. A game like Pandemic can kinda feel like you're a family of four dividing up mundane low skill chores for the day, while Spirit Island feels like you're this group of powerful and unique individuals coming together with your own strengths and weaknesses to do thing only you can do to fight evil.
The barrage ranking concerns me! Out of all the board gaming youtubers I watch, you guys are the closest match to my taste in games.
Barrage is supposed to be my next purchase but seeing the ranking suggests I should maybe think about it a bit more 😅 who knows though maybe this is one of those preference outliers lol
I think it was the fact that the game felt very punishing if you don't understand a bit of early game strategy. There were a couple of players that placed poorly on their first turn and that kind of set the mood for the game. When I revisit it, I'll simply give some advice to everyone at the table as to opening strategy (which I don't usually do) and hopefully that leads to a better experience. I say go for it.
I just got Barrage, and I love it! Can’t stop thinking about it.
Experianced players will definately dominate new players in this game. But I always give new players some advice the first turns, and that helps a lot. You should really do that if you’re playing with new players, or they will have a bad time. But as long as you do that, Barrage is amazing! Once your group knows it, you have an intense, crunchy and extreamely satisfying game😄
For me, the level of intensity Barrage brings is rare to find. In my last play, we all had to stand up next to the table for the last half of the game, taking off our shirts as the heat was rising in the room. It was Twilight Imperium level of intensity😆
It’s really something special once you get the hang of it. Recommend
I don’t understand how you can love mean games and hate Power Grid haha. It’s my favorite game, we play every week… and I definitely have never seen anyone getting to a bad start and losing the game unless they don’t know how to play, it’s almost always tight at the end of the game
Dude I tried so hard to like it. I felt crazy cause everyone online enjoys it and I just couldn't get into it. The meanness certainly wasn't the issue
Maybe it’s a game that just shines with the right group. My group is all very competitive, and we use every opportunity to gloat over our victory from week to week. We only play at 4-5 player count, the 2 and 3 player game isn’t very fun and the strategy for 6 player is just too different. I would also say that if you only played the original and not the recharged edition, it might make a difference because the pacing of the original was too slow. We can usually knock out a game in 1.5-2 hrs compared to the 2.5-3.5 hours the original edition would take us.
so for netrunner, in fact the original sets are NOT cheap and difficult to find, but Null Signal Games has its new version of netrunner now, which is pretty much what everyone plays, and even has tournaments and world champs, so if people want to play netrunner, it is alive and well in NSG's version. and the art is just as amazing.
Good to see fans keeping things alive.
It seems we have EXACTLY the same taste ! You have gained a suscriber 😎
Hell yeah! Happy to have you.
This is one of those clips that by your commentary I'm suddenly interested in the games you aren't.
Ain't nothing wrong with that.
I don't mind "this game isn't for me". I know Brass isn't for me. But i acknowledge that the new versions look great and are well put-together. I'm just awful at rail games.
It's a pretty game that's for sure.
You have excellent taste, and I have subscribed to your newsletter! :) (except for Kanban)
Perfect. I am looking forward to getting you to buy into our pyramid scheme.
@@TabletopTurtle Oooh...is it steak knives?
Great video! I agree with a lot of what you said here, except that I simply love Crokinole and think Too Many Bones is very enjoyable (probably a B for me). Crokinole is such a different game from all the others, though, so I don’t consider it a boardgame. I haven’t played Terra Mystica, but I love Gaia Project, and from what I hear, the temple(?) tracks in Terra Mystica are really lackluster, while the technology tracks in Gaia Project are one of my favorite features of the game. Also, I’ve heard that the different map sizes for the different player counts is a welcome addition, to keep the tension at lower counts. Do you want to give your thoughts on what you felt about these particular changes? Whether one agrees with you or not, this video is really helpful, because of your ability to clearly convey what you like and what you don’t like about all the games. Your short synopsis of how the games work were also amazing. To finish things off: Of my personal top 5 of all time, only three of them are in the top 100 on BGG, and I’m really happy to say that they’re all in your S-tier: Through the Ages, Mage Knight and War of the Ring. Kudos!
I think my friends and I are just not enthusiastic dexterity game players. I think the tech tracks in Gaia are interesting but not good enough to replace Terra mystica. Tm is like capturing lightning in a bottle. It's so good it can't be changed or added to
Funny to see how much opinions differ! Agricola is S-tier for me, while i would place Ark Nova and Scythe near bottom. We agree on Brass Birmingham tough!
Damn, but we love Ark Nova so much! I guess it can be kinda random sometimes?
50 seconds in… I’m a fan already!
Thanks! People always say youtube comments are mean, but I haven't seen it yet! Hope we keep you entertained!
Interesting list, enjoyed your reasoning and descriptions, thank you so much :D
Just as an observation: I think my playgroups strongly influenced my own tastes and I'd vager to generalize.
As an example Cthulhu Death May Die is an all time favorite for me. The reason is that there are hardly any games with that much variety that play well at 5 (even 6 - the 6th acting as GM) , provide a neat puzzle, have little downtime, convey an amazing story (if you enjoy Lovecraft) and play in less than 2 hrs. ^^ (7 Wonders, Roll for the Galaxy aso are ok twice a year)
Had this game fallen flat with my group it would have gone the way of all unloved games and never got painted ^^
If you never read Lovecraft the scenarios will surely feel bland or weird. In my game group people will immediately recognize which book/story a reference or person relates to. Hence there is a whole slew of common background triggered when playing the game.
PS: A note on Kingdom Death Monster as "not a board game in the common sense" meaning F is warranted if you look at it from a standard boardgamers view:
KDM is amazing though just not as a standard boss battler or a play once/twice game ^^ The real task is setting yourself up well enough so you can mitigate every randomness this game throws at you and still survive. (A compacter game of this type would be Slay the Spire where you test out how far you can get and if you can beat Act 4 to advance ^^) And yes the first three sessions can feel boring as they are basically tutorials and the primary set up. With experience you get through them really quickly or skip them alltogether. Life/Death begins with the Butcher ^^
I would rather compare KDM to any computer RPG that takes 40+ hrs to play through - only in tangible form ^^
Patience is rewarded by amazing experiences on both ends of the scale. No other game I have ever played left such remarkable memories (maybe with the exception of Pandemic Legancy) :D
(Btw.: We played through Gloomhaven and Frosthaven and while I love this system so much that I even backed the RPG, I do not remember a single outstanding situation or scenario anymore)
However, KDM is definitely not for everyone and I might not have jumped in myself had it not been for Covid. For me it was more fun than playing a random computer game to pass lockdowns. This includes the hobbyside -building and painting minis as well as printing out community projects. Therefore KDM is not a boardgame in the common sense but more an allround experience. Also it is a vision of a person, Mr. Adam Poots, come true and a true piece of art I feel. ^^
You're welcome. Happy you enjoyed it!
Yeah, there is no escaping playgroup influencing how we enjoy games. A game could be brilliant but if everyone surrounding me is having a bad time, it's likely going to make me have a bad time as well. I'm not playing these games alone, after all.
Yeah, KDM is too much of an investment for my liking. I think that's the issue. I wouldn't mind painting the miniatures though.
Which game would you replace for Terraforming Mars then? It's one of the games I don't have yet from the A list.
I mean nothing completely replaces it. It's like any other game where you might like a specific mechanism or theme and you end up finding a game that does that thing you like a little better. I like the card play in Terraforming Mars and a little bit of a shared board experience. I get that with Mosaic and for strictly tableau building card synergies, I play Ark Nova. Neither game really replaces TM. They just scratch a somewhat similar itch for us.
@@TabletopTurtle Thank you, I will keep it on my wishlist then! I don't like the theme of ArkNova, so that is a saver.
Pass on Nemesis Lockdown as it just makes the game more convoluted than it’s worth. I actually ended up selling both with Stationfall out now. May not be for you but I adore chaos and it sort of gives me more of the silliness I wanted in Nemesis in a much shorter time. I still have a soft spot for Nemesis though. I’d probably ignore the new Nemesis based on what I’ve seen of your taste, though could be wrong.
Okay that's good to hear. It's not like I'm getting Nemesis to the table so often that I need something new. And Stationfall was one of my favorite games of the year, for sure!
I have recently bought Stationfall (not played yet) and have been hearing so much good stuff about Nemesis which have made me quite interessted in that game.
Are you suggesting that me owning Stationfall would nullify my "need" for Nemesis. And if I would end up trying to get Nemesis should I try get the original instead of the newer stuff?
@@1Dreamking Not at all. Nemesis oozes with theme more than majority of games and excels at nailing the Alien theme. So get the base as imo nothing has excelled that theme more so. For me, my friends were not high on Nemesis as I was and still prefer BSG, as do I, if wanting a longer game with traitor mechanic. And for me there are about 80 other games I’d prefer to play but that is just because I’ve played tons over 10 plus years. We were hoping for more screwage and chaos in Lockdown, which it provided more of but was too convoluted than it needed to be. Stationfall was sort of the game we didn’t ask for but provided the chaos we desired so much desired in Nemesis.
I was the same with Quacks. First dozen times i played were awesome, and it went downhill fast, to the point i sold it.
Yeah, I enjoyed it for the time I played it and now never want to play it again. It's funny because it would still be a game I'd recommend to people but on the advice that it has a limited shelf life.
I'm pretty sure Decrypto is my favourite casual game for 4 or more players. So good.
It works so well!
Video idea:If I could only keep 15 games...
Haha why 15!?!
Great tier list! Seems we have similar views on board games (except A Feast For Odin, you’re just wrong lol). I think you’ve finally pushed me to buy Ark Nova.
Hopefully you enjoy it because it's a pricey game. We only play it at two and at that count it plays really well.
Idk man. Im not sure how we can agree so much on so many of these games, and then have opposite opinions on KDM (i think its the best game ever made).
If you are not interacting during the opposing team's turn in Codenames you are playing it wrong. Making wrong but fun connections to distract them is peak fun in the entire party game genre. Decrypto is smart, but there isn't even half the space for fun that you can get in Codenames, you never laugh playing Decrypto.
Don't take this personally, just saying what I think, like you said at the start of the video. I felt I could be direct and speak frankly
I don't know about that. That sounds like a house rule, which is fine, but at that point it's not entirely the game providing the fun experience. I just like guessing the other team's clues more than anything. I mean, if you wanted you could play Decrypto where while the other team is guessing their clues, you could yell at them or kick them in the balls!
I love Mage Knight too, great game. By the way: HOMM3 is now also available as a board game from Archon, I can recommend it 😊
Yeah, I saw that the other day on a crowd funding site. I'll give it a bit more time and try to play it online or something before I commit.
Nice and entertaining video. If you cut the fanboy and mainstream votes the bbg top 100 would Look totally different.
Thank you! Yeah, there is a lot of hype for certain games but I'm guilty of loving a game way too much myself. Hopefully we all have those special games to us that we hype the living hell out of whenever we get the chance. I always take their rankings on the Geek with a grain of salt. Good to put a game on your radar and get you to play it, but not good enough to determine if you'll enjoy it.
Maybe you explained it but I missed it: what's the criteria for order of appearance?
Oh, it's just randomly generated when I put the images for the boxes into the tier making software.
What an amazing video and to be completely honest. I feel the same way on many of the games you ranked lower... some are hyped like crazy and it seems more due the components or cost (Crokinole I am looking at you!) that the gameplay itself 🤣
Five Tribes is my favorite game of all time so that would be an easy S for me... I wonder how would you rank "Tigris & Euphrates" since you like being mean, T&E let's you start a war between players and you do not have to be a part of it. I love it 😂
Hey, saves us some money when every game that's hyped turns out to be a little mediocre, eh?! Oh my friends and I played the crap out of T&E back in the early days but we got rid of it at some point. I'm not sure why. I should get another copy. It's a classic.
Waited to see Flamecraft on the list 😂
It's not in the BGG top 100! Actually, I'm surprised considering how huge it was on that site for a few months but it seems like it's lost favour over time.
A lot of rankings didn't surprise me, Agricola got spoiled a bit and I can respect the personal preference. But putting Maracaibo where you did was still a surprise, its essentially great western trail in another setting.
Yeah I knew those two would turn up some eyebrows. You're right, it does feel a lot like GWT and that just makes me miss my cowboys when playing it! Agricola is a game I hate so much and yet can completely understand other people loving it. I'd never peak over a person's shoulder in a game store holding up Agricola and whisper "don't do it, it's shit!". But I'd certainly do that with Kingdom Death Monster. 😜
@@TabletopTurtle haha, that's fair. And a bit spooky. To be honest Maracaibo didn't hit in my group as well, I'm the only one really liking it. The "campaign" idea was influenced by the time it came out and never made sense imo.
Agricola is just old and way too unforgiving. It has no catch-up mechanism and feels bad for anyone learning it. The cards make the game somewhat interesting and I miss those in Caverna. But if we play these games 5 times or less like most games, Caverna is superior.
Really enjoyed your video, good content
Woah, do you play every day?? How do you have access to all these games even?
We usually play a game a day and that's over the course of many many years. How? Conventions, board game cafes, friends with no impulse control and deep pockets haha
you gotta come to TerraMysticon
But then I'll be a small fish in a big pond!
I think your should tier rank all the too many bones gearlocs. I kid of course. Thanks for the rundown of all these games from your perspective. It’s impressive that you have played them all enough to have some meaningful insight for each.
Thank you! It pays to have friends with money and no impulse control when it comes to new games.
The grind in Tainted Grail turned off so many players from it, which is bad, because it is really a great game with a great story. I personally enjoyed it way more than Gloomhaven.
The 2.0 update of the game with new rules and mechanics removed the grind from the game, so I hope you'll give it another chance in the future!
Perhaps I'll have to revisit it.
So you and i don't align at all for board game tastes. Power grid and gloomhaven are my top 2 all time. If i asked you what flavor of ice cream do you want you would say screw that lets get a steak. But i gotta give you props for playing every game for the good analysis and for actually pulling the video off.
That's perfect. You tell me what you hate and I'll buy it and I'll tell you what I love and you can avoid it.
@@TabletopTurtle ok I finished the video. Yes we are very far apart. I've got some recommendations. Innovation, the evolution games and carnegie
@@txsportsfreak02 Innovation was okay. Evolution is great. Carnegie is a solid game. It's working already!
New to the channel, and loved the clip, but I didn't understand what makes a game "euro" if I even heard correctly
Welcome! So the term "euro" is used in the hobby a lot to essentially reference a type of board game that is unlike Monopoly and the usual American-style games. "Euro" games usually feature a very low amount of luck, indirect player interaction, no player elimination, and lots and lots of point scoring.
Have you played dune war for arrakis? I hear it addresses concerns you have with rebellion and war of the ring
No, I've never even had that game on my radar. I'll have to give it a view.
Fun video, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
After Sleeping Gods it’s clear for me ur type of games - complex euro games
Yes and No. Watch the top 100 video. I love American games and that's where I got started. The best games are not even in the BGG top 100.
I’m not offended, but you are wrong about Crokinole!
C of Burgundy is no longer ugly if you get the new version.
Dude that thing costs an arm and a leg
You did not mention IMHO one of the top 100: Heroquest
haha well it's not in the BGG top 100!
Now you have me curious about what the name of the trick taking game is that they play for hours... Do you happen to remember it?
Kim told me it was some game called golf and another called melamine or something. Let's not relive that traumatic event.
@@TabletopTurtle thanks for the follow up. Now, are the trick-taking games in the room with us right now?
As someone who doesn't know a whole lot about some of these games, some longer b-roll footage would've been nice. Your body language is very important to the video when you're talking about a game you dislike/find boring or a game you really enjoy but a lot of the time I think that footage of the game would've been more valuable to me.
Noted for next time!
Man - hard to hold back and not say “ umm what??” But hey it’s your list. Glad you put fcm at least at A and it’s true - if you screw up early it’s over for you. But that’s what’s so great about it:). Get good heh. KDM is hard to table but totally disagree with combat. Totally agree on mechs vs minions. Way too random and I find boring too.
Love the idea, thought you did a great job with the video, but I'm sorry, your taste in games is just too radically different from mine for this to be useful for me. I wish you luck with your channel regardless!
Okay but you're missing out on just buying the games I hate!
War of the ring, still looking for a game that could comparably bring you that same climatic feeling of thematic gameplay, I mean, You can play that game and still talk about what just transpired weeks later. Lol. Any suggestions?
Dune War for Arrakis? Or a COIN game?
Not a hell of a lot. We have some good funny times we talk about later when we play Nemesis.
Bro, you gotta water that plant.
HAHA We are not good with plants, apparently.
Star Wars Rebellion as B tier is heresy! (although I guess it needs the expansion to truly be S, it smooths over a lot). It's a pain in the ass explaining the game to people but it really is the movies in a box. So good.
I still need to play War of the Ring at some point. I got the box but I don't feel like learning a ton of rules at the moment. I really enjoyed Nemesis, but that was also a lot of rules.
Rebellion isn't without its issues, but man, it really is a very creative and unique game.
Placing Arkham at C tier is criminal.
Call the cops cause Fantasy Flight producing some mediocrity.
@@TabletopTurtle Eh. Star Wars Unlimited, sold out.
Arkham Horror is a game i wanted to love, i even had most of the expansions, however the game boiled down to moving around a map gobbling up green tokens like some eldritch pacman. There were no Core elements of lovecraftian horror in the game mechanics, only it's theme. Clue token as opposed to actually having to solve anything with brain power.
I don't like Too Many Bones either. Something about it just didn't click with me. Great video!
That's because it sucks! Thank you!
If you’re an Argent lover, then you’re ok in my book. Doesn’t matter how wrong you are about certain games 😂 I need to find someone with your taste locally 😊
The reason I like Gaia Project better than Terra Mystica is because I can play Gaia Project with 2 players 😊 But other than that I’m more a TM fan and definitely own both.
We are so few, we have to stick together! lol Ah okay that makes sense. I've never considered any of the Terra Mystica type games with any less than four.
@@TabletopTurtle Yeah, four is the best, but I can rarely get that, so Gaia Project gives me the option to play with just my wife and at least get a taste of it more frequently.