My father in law had massive massive I mean the most massive forearms I ever saw in my life and he was a Canadian from Quebec that lumberjacked in the 1920’s and 1930’s. He work his way up the food chain to be a CAPTIN FOR THE UNITED STATES MERCHANT MARINES. He sailed ships to Cuba before it was communist government of Castro. Then he retired from service to go to the Hot Metal Overhead Cranes Operator At Ford Rouge Complex and Great Lake’s Steel poured 125tons of 2700 degree liquid steel for 30 more years and I never met a man like him and I’m proud he is my Father in Law.
Really enjoyed this video. As an arborist in Southern California I really appreciated seeing all these men working and making a life out of there work.
I am from Laona Wisconsin. Up North! It was a big lumber town. I grew up hearing the lumber mill whistle 3 times a day. Lumber trucks everywhere. They have a train that runs called the Lumberjack Special. It still runs by the mill pond and Lumberjack museum. 5 yes 5 generations of my family rode this train. My Grandfather WW1 vet ,my dad a Korean vet, my self a gulf vet,my son a Afghanistan vet and finally my grandkids! Its a nice day if your ever up in Northern Wisconsin. Google the train it has a video! God bless!
Thankyou for this video.. Our small village built next to the sea In NORTH ESSEX UK was built from Canadian Pine In pre WW2 early 1930/ Soon it will be a 100 years old but no one can know or understand how small built wooden bungalows still proudly stand, except those like me who have had modern extensions built needing the old wood walls removed in places for the extension to be added.. At 80 years old, the original Canadian Pine still smelled like Fresh new wood when cut on my home/ An Amazing wood supplied by Amazing men who cut/ moved/ sawed and delivered the wood for over a 100 years and counting./ THANK YOU ALL... Ian -- UK.
you see this in wooden boats also. many classics have BC pine components that need replacing at that sort of age but once the timber is re machined (to a smaller size) it still smells fresh and is basically good as new to re use for another purpose :)
What is odd is we don't have a lot of "pine" here in BC, we have Spruce, Coastal Douglas Fir and Western Red Cedar, the last 2 grow to the size of the California Giant Redwoods if left to become old growth trees. The other big quantity is Alder, good for cabinetry or flooring as it will rot out if exposed to weather. I suspect your pine in your house would be the Spruce tree lumber. It is a needle type tree rather than a frond ( firs / cedar ) type but the tree branches look furry with the way the needles grow on them.
@@jaquigreenlees Thanks for that, you see I only mention Pine as told to me by a local historian, but was it a high tar pine or other species? what ever it was, the wood was at least 90 years old, and it held its scent for many years, when one wall of my bungalow was cut off to extend the property, the resulting wood (lumber) I cut into log burning sizes for a local daughter to use and the scent of the wood was very strong still with the wood still in very good condition. I was told it was Canadian Tar Pine. If that was wrong, further help would be appreciated.
@@ianburit3705 That would have to be from a different area of Canada than BC and I'll have to look into where tar pine grows. With the massive size of Canada there are huge variations of the flora across the country, even just my home Province of BC is larger than the entire British Islands including Ireland as an example of area. The coastal area of BC is a temperate rain forest, the interior is a desert and Northern BC is not far from the Arctic Circle, that variety of climates alone makes it hard to know what grows all around BC, never mind the other 90% of Canada.
I grew up in BC, a small town north of Vernon. For many decades logging and sawmills was at the top of the economy. A lot of us who grew up there through the '80s and '90s either we logged or worked in a sawmill as our first jobs. Today Mills have shut down or downsized, the industry seems to not be as thriving as it used to be. My father was a mill worker all through his career who is now retired. I sure miss those days the smell of fresh cut lumber.
In Vancouver, I used to make the machinery for logging, sawmills and pulp mills. .. Up in the mountains near Sechelt, I saw a ghost logging operation. .. The forests here are spooky A. F.
21 year old who worked at a sort yard for a few years near Sayward (within 100 miles of the first cut site) First two summers I worked as a Bundler throwing 30 ft steel cables over logs. That was an insanely high tempo keeping up with the loaders but breaks in time while the loaders worked elsewhere kept it manageable at times. Next summer I worked as a Bucker lugging a chainsaw around cutting logs into the determined lengths for sale. After 3 close calls (log falling from a bundle 5 feet in front of me, and nearly breaking my shins twice) I decided to take the lower risk move and get into ranching/farming. I know my legs will thank me and being outside all day putting in work is what’s important to me, not the logging paycheques.
These guys are like the King Crab fisherman. Very dangerous career. Most take for granted and or dont know where their franing lumber comes from. Hats off and a bow to you gentlemen!!!
@@exploreandunravel5773 you have no clue what you are talking about. why do you think there is so many forest fires in California? liberal law not allowing logging
A few days of mine were spent cutting off rootballs and cutting logs to length for the mill. Some of those were some big oaks. I agree that it beats the hell out of the city. Deer also like clearcuts, so I spend the summer scouting the area for deer season.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 I saw that in Portland. Unbelievable. Not only were they living in wood frame houses, THEY WERE BUILDING MORE, even as they protested the logging sites.
@@thatguy22441 Yup same with people in plastic kayaks protesting some boat delivering oil pipeline parts. Plastic is made from the very thing they are protesting.
I worked in sawmills to a bunch of what they are talking about in this video for about 15-20 years before I quit after my accident and my health issues I have great respect and admiration for people who do this day in and day out of a living.
My great grandfather worked as a timber getter in the Shoalhaven Region of NSW in Australia, his stories were passed on and some of them were horrific. Deaths, fatal injuries even deaths by snakebites. My friend of over 30 years was a logger in New Zealand and some of his stories are just as chilling, mostly impalement of rotten tops and branches of trees, I have so much respect for the old timers and the current timber men of this world👍. We have a nickname here in Australia for old gumtrees, Widowmakers.
I understand the need for wood. But are those trees dead? Something seems off cutting down a 1200 year old tree like that? I'm not a zealot against this profession either.
@@lifestyledesign7333 I don't think dead trees make very good wood somehow............ :/ I think most of the trees they cut down are less than a century old.
21:12- that square shaped green house belongs to my inlaws. Its since been torn down and they built a new place. Ive met Erik a couple times, very nice guy and my father in law has helped him out a few times with odd jobs.
Curious how the log salvager is doing today? What’s also really cool is they get to see eagles on a regular basis. Here in Ga you don’t see them as often and it’s a treat when you do get to see one.
most of them hang around the land fill and the dump look up on youtube "hundereds of eagles flock to bc composting facility" most are there they just dont want to work for food anymore they r on bird welfare now
and also it says temporary but that was when it was built if u drive by there today they never left and now there is even wayyyyy more eagles big old bastards feasting on garbage all day what a sight
Yup, the lost manufacturing Job's in the USA 🇺🇸 is a shame. I would happily pay more to help my nabor feed his family. The timberlands are not managed correctly and the log export should truly be criminal offense. When are the American's going to wake-up, demand made in the USA. Our nation is bankrupt and looks to be getting much worse. Taxes don't create wealth for America or job's that make a nation wealthy. Yes, lot's of mills closed in my lifetime. But I was lucky to get the experience as long as it lasted. Hard work long hour's and loads of fun. Thanks for sharing your hard work in an awesome industry! Be well and stay safe.
I know why you think that. The problem is until our sawmills are able,and willing to saw the lumber as accurately and to the dementians the foreign markets needs it's useless unless they get it round log. That's the only way it can be made into something they can use.
Great video. I spent 50 years working in mills. Started out in Port Alberni where we peeled blocks 7 feet in diameter and dropped out 12" cores. Ended up peeling 6" blocks to 2" cores.
You know north American lumber has been renewable for decades right? Logging companys clear out pre determined plots of land clean up the waste and replant the plot in a rotating cycle the days of just clear cutting forests ended before your grandparents could walk @@harperwelch5147
My father did the same crossing in his 51ft monohull. One of the chain plates broke during the crossing. They used some anchor chain as a temporary repair. Back in NZ, I made a trip to Auckland to get the measurements of the chainplate from a sister ship. Had one made 10mm thick instead of 8mm. Posted it to French Polynesia, where they were able to replace it on their arrival. They had a few sleepless nights after the chain plate broke.
Excellent documentary. What I must say is that the background music, the sharp editing, the story-telling narration style, all add up to delivering a somewhat confected version of what must be a slow, listless and no-so- exciting life. The issue with documentaries is that they cannot be factual record. Some of the truth get smuggle up with the way it is told. Not out of deliberate intent but due to the compulsion of making the story 'interesting' But it was great viewing. It has kindled my intrest in the subject and will keep me busy for the next few weeks researching.
I've been through Seymour Narrows several times south bound from Alaska at the end of the fishing season. Everyone calls Vancouver Vessel Traffic on the radio and they assign vessels different priorities according to size , speed and power, as it is too narrow for many to make the turn into the tide changes at one time. The current runs at up to 8 or ten knots most of the time, even more when it is ripping. Our skipper read the charts wrong one time and we got caught at the corner by the tide rips and we were wide open on the throttle and not moving forward. Without the air moving by the exhaust stack (venturi). Next thing you know we had a stack fire in our old wood seiner. Had to stop and spin around and drop anchor to get the fire put out. Anything can happen in an instant there, especially when a skipper isn''t on top of his game!
It always amaze's me that anything related to cutting, processing, or milling wood, That everything related including men and machines all have to be running over 100%
It drives me nuts to hear someone say "chopping down a tree" when they are using chain saws. Oh well. It was still a neat documentary. Canada has some beautiful land. My respect from Oregon, USA. Stay safe.
47:00 My father used to be working as Mechanic foreman in a sawmill in Malaysia, but now most of the mill are closed, in 2008 he move with his company to Gabon Africa. Since then he always come back once a year. He said Africa has a lot of lumber back in 2008-2017 period but it getting lesser now.
Thank you the Clark NDP government for allowing the closure of the Eburne saw mill that was located under the Arthur Laing Bridge. It was the start of end of cutting wood in mills on the coast and the beginning of log exports. Working at Eburne at the time we did a lot to try to keep mills in bc. We were sold out by the NDP and the IWA union. They just changed the law over night and big business one.
More the GVRD, they want to put a seawall on both sides of the river from the Georgia Strait. to Maple Ridge. And the City of Vancouver who do not want any industry, they want Vancouver to be a bedroom.
I was looking on Google maps man and there tons of sawmills on the BC and US NW coast, not like northern New England that literally has two coastal mills left
Come and film logging in the Ontario and Quebec. There are clear-cutting and select cut logging. It's done differently both places, Thank you for this.....Loggers Wife.
I logged most of my adult life. My grandfather was a hand bucker for Comox Logging, my Dad was a high rigger, and ended up being vice prez of Elk River Timber. I ended up being a logging truck driver.
Those were the days my friends when we had super size trees to bring to the mills.Logging trucks loaded two stories high to the water and half a bay to hold them logs in booms to transport to the mills. 1980 was when I left the forest industry and have not seen these size of logs since
that's because as it turns out, old growth forests AREN'T endless after all. Perhaps selective logging leaving greenbelts of old growth untouched would've been smarter. Then to ship it across the sea for nothing, sheesh.
@@nelsonreyes7157 They weren't destroyed dummy. They were made into usable lumber which is what houses and furniture and many other things are made of. As long as forests are managed properly, they are re-newable, so cut em down boys and don't worry about all the bleeding heart liberals that live in big houses MADE OF LUMBER. Great documentary by the way. Hearty fellas, all of em!!! By the way dummy, I've been to B.C and there is still a lot of old growth 1st and 2nd gen trees left, so if ya need to go hug a big tree you shouldn't have a problem finding one.
Yeah and if they kept letting you clear cut like that they'd literally be hauling kindling twigs like they have to in Maine now because of the unregulated cutting for 4 centuries.
Not anymore. Our grandchildren won’t see forests,just destruction. So sad . Plants trees are needed for oxygen. There’s an entire internet beneath the soil . These trees are so old and the animals are losing their homes . Greed everywhere.
We see these guys even in the deepest places we can take our sailboat. We are usually alone but now and then we see a few guys out working the log booms. We will have to shout them out next time we see them :)
Eric build or by a portable sawmill and start selling to timberframers. keep up the beach combing but keep the logs. You will be amazed at how much red fir or Douglas fir as you guys call it up there goes for milled. Good luck, beautiful family and life.
My partner and I had a small logging co in the Catskill mountain region of nys. We did selective timber harvesting. Mostly hardwood logging for veneer or rotary. Good money actually but the regulations were just insane in ny
This must be some of the hardest working people I've ever seen, it's true we all want to safe the trees but this trees are not taken down in vain they provide a livelihood for the people
Those are called 'boom boats', actually the real term is dozer boat. They're very small and the engine is way below deck and very strong. They can turned on a dime because the propeller is encapsulated in a big tube that you can steer thus making the boat super-duper maneuverable and is just about impossible to capsize. I worked for a company in the 70' building them. Its was fun
Born and bred in BC my father born in Oregon all loggers on west coast I’ve known would object to being called lumberjacks. That’s a term used for cutters of “little” trees down east according to one forty year veteran of multi generational family of “Loggers”.
Great, another easily offended group!!! People who don't have their own worth from their work...get offended at what some people call them. Most of us in the industry work hard and could care less what title is given!! Poor widdle male species.
Same here, grew up in B.C. coast logging camp until near school age. Surest way to proclaim "city boy, not from around here" is to use the word lumberjack. It always surprises me when people doing documentaries don't stumble across this particular fact.
Where is the high-end logging segment: the film goes from falling trees to boom tugs. How did these logs get there? I was a logger in Washington State, both high lead and gravity.
As a Canadian I’m so sickened by this .Looking back at our History,the only people that ever respected Mother Earth was the Native People’s . They only took what they needed . Now there’s so much greed . I do hope the prices go so high , they can’t afford to buy these rare and precious resources. Shame on you all.
Those "Native Peoples" as you call them, just entered into an agreement with a Norwegian company to open an open-net fish farm at the mouth of Knight Inlet. Fish farming is the ultimate example of greed. Raise toxic fish in pens and destroy native fish in the process, all in the name of the mighty dollar. Come on up here to the north end of the island for a year or two and learn what life here is really like, then maybe you can speak with knowledge. And if your house is really made of stone in Canada, how is it insulated? What is the roof and floor made of? Can you honestly say there is no wood in your house? I doubt it.
@@two-sense Yes I have recycled wood from old barns . I agree the fishing is out of control too. I remember going camping here and the Natives were allowed to fish on a lake and some dispute with the government at the time, wouldn’t allow them to get their fish . As we went out into the lake it was horrendous because it was a sea of dead wasted fish they now weren’t allowed to have. So much waste. There’s good and bad everywhere. I do think there’s greed everywhere and it should be fair for everyone. I can’t imagine being in their shoes ,but my grandparents taught me to have.Compassion for everyone. We never really know what someone is going through. I saw my own father struggling to feed his young family. Obviously I’m not condoning that because it’s not right,but the animals are getting sick and in turn making us sick and depleting our planet. It’s sad .I grew up in the bush . I know what’s it’s like to rough it . We ate white fish 90% of the time sleeping in -40 degree weather. For years .
33:35 a big corporation having a huge advantage with the cards stacked in their favour over a hard-working Canadian family? What a shocking revelation!! ):
I work in the Timber business up in Northern Maine USA in the 70s and 80s jeez I wish I could go back to it I miss it I would not have traded it for the world as hard as it was……..Kip saw law
It would be truly nice if ALL of Canada's Lumber were required to be milled In Canada. But then it would also be very nice IF the industry would plant more than they take and NOT take ANY of the Old Growth Trees. Leave those to live. There are plenty of others. I don't care for clear-cutting either. Not only does it eliminate entire ecosystems with their own micro-climates but it also leaves a mess that quickly can become unstable and subject to serious erosion. All of which dries up, plugs and eliminates important river tributaries and major river water sources. Of course, everyone knows this is a Fact but anyone in the industry will dispute it in protection of their jobs. To hell with the environment right ?
In Washington State they plant more then they take. We have some Tree Farms where the trees look like rows of corn. Clear cutting helps feed the wild life after a few years. There's more wild life now then there were ever before. Some Old Growth trees are dying, and should be harvested. Washington State loggers can't cut Old Growth anymore, because of the Spotted Owl!
Hey boyz Where are the replacements? How long till new lumber ,this size and density will be available in this area? Bear in mind that another newly planted tree will not have the shear volume of canopy subjected to the sun's light ,that would take about 56 Newley planted trees 86 years to replace one days worth of oxygen generation. Do your homework before cutting down the rest.
In 1200 years there will millions more that were planted by tree planters hired by the forest companies as part of the B.C. Forrest Management program and no not all old growth is harvested in B.C. some is protected. Meanwhile enjoy 🏕 in your 🛢Oil Industry provided Nylon tent.
@@garnetdurham4643 .8% of old growth is left in BC. Second growth and new growth forests create completely different kinds of ecosystems - it's not just about the wood.
"A magnificent primary forest" .... Lets cut it all down.... I recall as a kid being in BC & seeing clear cuts & the aftermath they left of old growth timber. Broke my heart then. Now I find myself wondering how much, if any, is left.
Very little. From California to BC, only a tiny fraction of the ancient forest remains, maybe 5% at best. And if no one had taken action, it would be 0%. Logging companies are not our friends...
I could be wrong but it meant falling trees with axes.my other guess is jack was common name for a faller back then. I am wondering if the boards they put into giant trees to stand on were called jacks?
It's not a question of geography. it is chronological. A logger has never heard of a whistlepunk, and a lumberjack wouldn't know how to sharpen a chain saw. (Roughly speaking, give or take a couple of generations)
@@Bear39224 Whistle punks are loggers. Anyone who knows West Coast logging history would know about whistle punks . My aunt was a whistle punk on Vancouver Island during WW2.
It's an insult to call a west coast logger a lumberjack. I'm not shitin you. Go to west Westport Washington into the notty pine and call a logger a lumberjack and see how quickly you and your teeth part ways.
How much of the prime Douglas fir and Sitka spruce ends up on and in a fighter headed for China and Japan to be processed into furniture and sent back???
B.C. is clear-cutting the last of its old growth forests. Why would they feel compelled to do that? Compared to Washington State, this is extraordinary. These forests can contain trees that are several hundred years old. Canada is huge. Preserve the oldest and best forests for future generations.
Could it be that the trees are at the end of their lifecycle? There are lots of people that don't realize that that is a real thing. It of course differs per species. I'm not saying it is the case here, but I've been harassed for cutting down a tree that wasn't yet dead, but clearly dying.
Even if it isn't the truth, (i don't know the facts) just for mentioning the phrase "preserve for future generations" and putting that tought out there, deserves a like from my part. Great documentary btw, the guy with his family, look as real as it gets, beautiful to see, happy and joyful.
@@someguy8109 Hehe, i feel you, i love nature and i take any day (when i can afford to do so lol) that extra leap to enjoy the beauty thats not visited by the most. Without cars people mostly don't go further then a 15-40 min walk. I mean after the road stops. Just to be clear i love hiking, i got your point, just wondered away a bit so i can share this with others as well! ;) Might i live in Toronto, but just a few hours up north you can find a different world here as well. Lets keep it that way, preserve that beauty and all that is feels like that to you and love. Not just the woods but everything that should be on that list. I kept it very general again because every people who reads this can enjoy and contribute to what they really love by realizing that we not just consumers, we need to have some kind of responsibility in life. Just to stay true to my original comment. :)
What’s happening to our planet is heartbreaking. I just told someone above,the deer are so full of Covid that they can’t get rid of it. It’s passed back to humans. We’re in serious trouble here people. The Native Peoples only take what they need. We’re plundering resources to the point where there will be nothing left for our great grandchildren. It breaks my heart to see trees die. We’re breathing because of trees.
In 1200 years there will millions more that were planted by tree planters hired by the forest companies as part of the B.C. Forrest Management program and no not all old growth is harvested in B.C. some is protected.
@@adilhakam887 and your solution is? Don't be providing complaints; that part is so easy, , tell us a better way, with proof; that part takes brains and thoughtful process. What say you now Adil??
My father in law had massive massive I mean the most massive forearms I ever saw in my life and he was a Canadian from Quebec that lumberjacked in the 1920’s and 1930’s. He work his way up the food chain to be a CAPTIN FOR THE UNITED STATES MERCHANT MARINES. He sailed ships to Cuba before it was communist government of Castro. Then he retired from service to go to the Hot Metal Overhead Cranes Operator At Ford Rouge Complex and Great Lake’s Steel poured 125tons of 2700 degree liquid steel for 30 more years and I never met a man like him and I’m proud he is my Father in Law.
Sir it is so very cool to hear you describe the respect and admiration you have for your father.
Was is your father or father in law?
Sounds like a awesome man !!!
I can tell you are very proud. Of course
They don’t make em like your father no more unfortunately..Thanks for sharing and love to you all..
Ide love to have met him. Sounds like quite a fella!
Really enjoyed this video. As an arborist in Southern California I really appreciated seeing all these men working and making a life out of there work.
really happy to find a reality show about our forests without stupid over exaggeration and un necessary hype on the industry. Thank you
I am from Laona Wisconsin. Up North! It was a big lumber town. I grew up hearing the lumber mill whistle 3 times a day. Lumber trucks everywhere. They have a train that runs called the Lumberjack Special. It still runs by the mill pond and Lumberjack museum. 5 yes 5 generations of my family rode this train. My Grandfather WW1 vet ,my dad a Korean vet, my self a gulf vet,my son a Afghanistan vet and finally my grandkids! Its a nice day if your ever up in Northern Wisconsin. Google the train it has a video! God bless!
Thankyou for this video.. Our small village built next to the sea In NORTH ESSEX UK was built from Canadian Pine In pre WW2 early 1930/ Soon it will be a 100 years old but no one can know or understand how small built wooden bungalows still proudly stand, except those like me who have had modern extensions built needing the old wood walls removed in places for the extension to be added.. At 80 years old, the original Canadian Pine still smelled like Fresh new wood when cut on my home/ An Amazing wood supplied by Amazing men who cut/ moved/ sawed and delivered the wood for over a 100 years and counting./ THANK YOU ALL... Ian -- UK.
you see this in wooden boats also. many classics have BC pine components that need replacing at that sort of age but once the timber is re machined (to a smaller size) it still smells fresh and is basically good as new to re use for another purpose :)
What is odd is we don't have a lot of "pine" here in BC, we have Spruce, Coastal Douglas Fir and Western Red Cedar, the last 2 grow to the size of the California Giant Redwoods if left to become old growth trees. The other big quantity is Alder, good for cabinetry or flooring as it will rot out if exposed to weather.
I suspect your pine in your house would be the Spruce tree lumber. It is a needle type tree rather than a frond ( firs / cedar ) type but the tree branches look furry with the way the needles grow on them.
@@jaquigreenlees Thanks for that, you see I only mention Pine as told to me by a local historian, but was it a high tar pine or other species? what ever it was, the wood was at least 90 years old, and it held its scent for many years, when one wall of my bungalow was cut off to extend the property, the resulting wood (lumber) I cut into log burning sizes for a local daughter to use and the scent of the wood was very strong still with the wood still in very good condition. I was told it was Canadian Tar Pine. If that was wrong, further help would be appreciated.
@@ianburit3705 That would have to be from a different area of Canada than BC and I'll have to look into where tar pine grows.
With the massive size of Canada there are huge variations of the flora across the country, even just my home Province of BC is larger than the entire British Islands including Ireland as an example of area. The coastal area of BC is a temperate rain forest, the interior is a desert and Northern BC is not far from the Arctic Circle, that variety of climates alone makes it hard to know what grows all around BC, never mind the other 90% of Canada.
@@jaquigreenlees Thanks for that Info. All I can do Is watch videos of areas and different places as I no longer travel far like i once used to.
I grew up in BC, a small town north of Vernon. For many decades logging and sawmills was at the top of the economy. A lot of us who grew up there through the '80s and '90s either we logged or worked in a sawmill as our first jobs. Today Mills have shut down or downsized, the industry seems to not be as thriving as it used to be. My father was a mill worker all through his career who is now retired. I sure miss those days the smell of fresh cut lumber.
I'm in Cranbrook:)
In Vancouver, I used to make the machinery for logging, sawmills and pulp mills. .. Up in the mountains near Sechelt, I saw a ghost logging operation. .. The forests here are spooky A. F.
Very happy that everything is closing up and you don't get to smell fresh cut wood anymore.
Miss The OLD DAYS Indeed,...👍
@@bimmjim Could you elaborate a bit please? Did I understand you to say that you saw ghosts cutting down trees? Or did I misunderstand? :O
21 year old who worked at a sort yard for a few years near Sayward (within 100 miles of the first cut site) First two summers I worked as a Bundler throwing 30 ft steel cables over logs. That was an insanely high tempo keeping up with the loaders but breaks in time while the loaders worked elsewhere kept it manageable at times. Next summer I worked as a Bucker lugging a chainsaw around cutting logs into the determined lengths for sale. After 3 close calls (log falling from a bundle 5 feet in front of me, and nearly breaking my shins twice) I decided to take the lower risk move and get into ranching/farming. I know my legs will thank me and being outside all day putting in work is what’s important to me, not the logging paycheques.
These guys are like the King Crab fisherman. Very dangerous career. Most take for granted and or dont know where their franing lumber comes from. Hats off and a bow to you gentlemen!!!
Been playing chainsaw now over 25 years. A bad day in the woods is still better then a good day in the town. Wouldn’t change it for the world.
As an amature . I have a one tank rule. Got any as a pro?
But , you actually Converting the forest into desert and Towns
@@exploreandunravel5773 you have no clue what you are talking about. why do you think there is so many forest fires in California? liberal law not allowing logging
@@zacharyholbrook7930 well sir , You mean that the forest fires should be the reason to clear all the forests thru logging .
A few days of mine were spent cutting off rootballs and cutting logs to length for the mill. Some of those were some big oaks. I agree that it beats the hell out of the city. Deer also like clearcuts, so I spend the summer scouting the area for deer season.
Lumberjacking its what real men do...people who live in wooden houses should thank theses guys...thanks!
Some people who live in wooden houses like to protest them evil loggers.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 I saw that in Portland. Unbelievable. Not only were they living in wood frame houses, THEY WERE BUILDING MORE, even as they protested the logging sites.
@@thatguy22441 Yup same with people in plastic kayaks protesting some boat delivering oil pipeline parts. Plastic is made from the very thing they are protesting.
@@arnenelson4495 maybe read the comments before replying as then you might clue in to the gist of the conversation.!!
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Worked as a cutter in Scotland, what these folks do is on another level; respect ✊.
For me, the hills of the mid north coast NSW... indeed, respect.
how many levels ARE there? 😳
@@AntechynusAre yu still there??
@johnsensserwadda9699 yeah bud. Still doing it... do more management now I'm older.
I worked in sawmills to a bunch of what they are talking about in this video for about 15-20 years before I quit after my accident and my health issues I have great respect and admiration for people who do this day in and day out of a living.
My great grandfather worked as a timber getter in the Shoalhaven Region of NSW in Australia, his stories were passed on and some of them were horrific.
Deaths, fatal injuries even deaths by snakebites.
My friend of over 30 years was a logger in New Zealand and some of his stories are just as chilling, mostly impalement of rotten tops and branches of trees, I have so much respect for the old timers and the current timber men of this world👍.
We have a nickname here in Australia for old gumtrees, Widowmakers.
Is there forests in Australia? I though the whole country is dry.
Yes Mate, Australia has some of the oldest untouched Rainforests in the world.
I understand the need for wood. But are those trees dead? Something seems off cutting down a 1200 year old tree like that? I'm not a zealot against this profession either.
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@@lifestyledesign7333 I don't think dead trees make very good wood somehow............ :/ I think most of the trees they cut down are less than a century old.
one of the coolest films i;ve seen on u tube , thanks for posting .
21:12- that square shaped green house belongs to my inlaws. Its since been torn down and they built a new place. Ive met Erik a couple times, very nice guy and my father in law has helped him out a few times with odd jobs.
awesome video, please do another and yeah let the industry speak its truth. the forest is a provider.
what a fantastic video... What a work ethic there Eric.... admire the self reliant lifestyle....
Hard work i work on this equipment with my father in Centeral Maine I respect these guys who risk there lives
This is an interesting documentary. I'm glad I discovered this channel just an hour ago.
-- Petaling Jaya, Malaysia
Drove those trucks from 1974 till 2002 best job I ever had !
Curious how the log salvager is doing today? What’s also really cool is they get to see eagles on a regular basis. Here in Ga you don’t see them as often and it’s a treat when you do get to see one.
most of them hang around the land fill and the dump look up on youtube "hundereds of eagles flock to bc composting facility" most are there they just dont want to work for food anymore they r on bird welfare now
and also it says temporary but that was when it was built if u drive by there today they never left and now there is even wayyyyy more eagles big old bastards feasting on garbage all day what a sight
That’s probably because we are destroying habitat by the minute.
RETIRED LAND LOGGER/CLIMBER 55 YEARS OF FUN NOW I CAN ONLY WATCH AND REMBER THANKS FOR YOUR VIDO JON DOBBS
Eric you are truly a blessed man! What a beautiful family.
Yup, the lost manufacturing Job's in the USA 🇺🇸 is a shame. I would happily pay more to help my nabor feed his family. The timberlands are not managed correctly and the log export should truly be criminal offense. When are the American's going to wake-up, demand made in the USA.
Our nation is bankrupt and looks to be getting much worse. Taxes don't create wealth for America or job's that make a nation wealthy.
Yes, lot's of mills closed in my lifetime. But I was lucky to get the experience as long as it lasted. Hard work long hour's and loads of fun.
Thanks for sharing your hard work in an awesome industry!
Be well and stay safe.
I know why you think that. The problem is until our sawmills are able,and willing to saw the lumber as accurately and to the dementians the foreign markets needs it's useless unless they get it round log. That's the only way it can be made into something they can use.
Great video. I spent 50 years working in mills. Started out in Port Alberni where we peeled blocks 7 feet in diameter and dropped out 12" cores. Ended up peeling 6" blocks to 2" cores.
/iguess that means allthe great wood is gone
maybe they mismanaged the resource
"Blocks"? Is that a less painful word to use than "trees"? Less sensitive sounding? More like just business?
You know north American lumber has been renewable for decades right? Logging companys clear out pre determined plots of land clean up the waste and replant the plot in a rotating cycle the days of just clear cutting forests ended before your grandparents could walk @@harperwelch5147
Awesome documentary..one day i will visit BC..stuck in NZ during these Covid times sucks.
My father did the same crossing in his 51ft monohull. One of the chain plates broke during the crossing. They used some anchor chain as a temporary repair. Back in NZ, I made a trip to Auckland to get the measurements of the chainplate from a sister ship. Had one made 10mm thick instead of 8mm. Posted it to French Polynesia, where they were able to replace it on their arrival. They had a few sleepless nights after the chain plate broke.
Great video, I am from Saskatchewan and have never seen this in real.
Thanks for the history lesson, great video.
@Harold hello,how are you doing
Interesting watch. Thx. Watching from Ontario Canada 🎉
28:57 I not a leader person, but this is the life I wanted, hard work at day and enjoy the fish and beautiful nature at dawn.
Hard working men. Bravo.
Excellent documentary. What I must say is that the background music, the sharp editing, the story-telling narration style, all add up to delivering a somewhat confected version of what must be a slow, listless and no-so- exciting life.
The issue with documentaries is that they cannot be factual record. Some of the truth get smuggle up with the way it is told. Not out of deliberate intent but due to the compulsion of making the story 'interesting'
But it was great viewing. It has kindled my intrest in the subject and will keep me busy for the next few weeks researching.
As the wife of a logger, I can assure you it is very exciting. One mistake and it could be fatal. It is one of the most dangerous jobs in the world.
@@peck5467 OK. Thanks for clarifying.
good point
Nobody is gonna mention the strength of that pole in the beach combers boat? Props to whoever installed that!
Awesome. I grew up in Australia watching the Beach Combers TV show, so I enjoyed the heck out of this documentary
Thanks!
I've been through Seymour Narrows several times south bound from Alaska at the end of the fishing season. Everyone calls Vancouver Vessel Traffic on the radio and they assign vessels different priorities according to size , speed and power, as it is too narrow for many to make the turn into the tide changes at one time. The current runs at up to 8 or ten knots most of the time, even more when it is ripping. Our skipper read the charts wrong one time and we got caught at the corner by the tide rips and we were wide open on the throttle and not moving forward. Without the air moving by the exhaust stack (venturi). Next thing you know we had a stack fire in our old wood seiner. Had to stop and spin around and drop anchor to get the fire put out. Anything can happen in an instant there, especially when a skipper isn''t on top of his game!
Sorry - what do you mean by "Without the air moving by the exhaust stack (venturi)."?
venturi effect@@JonathanGillies
It always amaze's me that anything related to cutting, processing, or milling wood, That everything related including men and machines all have to be running over 100%
It drives me nuts to hear someone say "chopping down a tree" when they are using chain saws. Oh well. It was still a neat documentary. Canada has some beautiful land. My respect from Oregon, USA. Stay safe.
Couple really handsome guys there, thank ya💪💪💪
Relax watching here stay safe always 💪🙏❤️ God bless
Canada is so wonderful and beautiful I love Canada landscape it’s wild!
Where are you from
Won’t be here for much longer. Read a book
Really enjoyed that ..thank you for posting ..👍👍
47:00 My father used to be working as Mechanic foreman in a sawmill in Malaysia, but now most of the mill are closed, in 2008 he move with his company to Gabon Africa. Since then he always come back once a year. He said Africa has a lot of lumber back in 2008-2017 period but it getting lesser now.
Those boom boats are a pretty cool idea in maneuvering logs.👍
Thank you the Clark NDP government for allowing the closure of the Eburne saw mill that was located under the Arthur Laing Bridge.
It was the start of end of cutting wood in mills on the coast and the beginning of log exports. Working at Eburne at the time we did a lot to try to keep mills in bc. We were sold out by the NDP and the IWA union. They just changed the law over night and big business one.
More the GVRD, they want to put a seawall on both sides of the river from the Georgia Strait. to Maple Ridge. And the City of Vancouver who do not want any industry, they want Vancouver to be a bedroom.
Yeh, and without NDP support trump would not have been elected in 2016
@@Bear39224 yep get rid if those float planes they are disturbing my patio enjoyment in coal harbour! 🤦🏻
there should be a non political based review of the large scale>>>>>>>> industrialized
I was looking on Google maps man and there tons of sawmills on the BC and US NW coast, not like northern New England that literally has two coastal mills left
This is one of the best documentaries I've ever seen.
Come and film logging in the Ontario and Quebec. There are clear-cutting and select cut logging. It's done differently both places, Thank you for this.....Loggers Wife.
@Pat hello,how are you doimg
I logged most of my adult life.
My grandfather was a hand bucker for Comox Logging, my Dad was a high rigger, and ended up being vice prez of Elk River Timber.
I ended up being a logging truck driver.
Those were the days my friends when we had super size trees to bring to the mills.Logging trucks loaded two stories high to the water and half a bay to hold them logs in booms to transport to the mills. 1980 was when I left the forest industry and have not seen these size of logs since
that's because as it turns out, old growth forests AREN'T endless after all. Perhaps selective logging leaving greenbelts of old growth untouched would've been smarter. Then to ship it across the sea for nothing, sheesh.
@@pkejohansson3170 Yea. Dude gives his experience from 80's of destroying all the large tress than ?s why there is no longer large trees lol.
@@nelsonreyes7157 They weren't destroyed dummy. They were made into usable lumber which is what houses and furniture and many other things are made of. As long as forests are managed properly, they are re-newable, so cut em down boys and don't worry about all the bleeding heart liberals that live in big houses MADE OF LUMBER. Great documentary by the way. Hearty fellas, all of em!!! By the way dummy, I've been to B.C and there is still a lot of old growth 1st and 2nd gen trees left, so if ya need to go hug a big tree you shouldn't have a problem finding one.
So sad to see the ignorance of man destroy the forest. Some things should left even if it’s so remote no one can see it.
Yeah and if they kept letting you clear cut like that they'd literally be hauling kindling twigs like they have to in Maine now because of the unregulated cutting for 4 centuries.
Thank you.
a very interesting way of life and hard work.....would not like to be jumping around on the logs.....one slip and ..
Ive been on Vancouver island a few times its beautiful and very peaceful.
Not anymore. Our grandchildren won’t see forests,just destruction. So sad . Plants trees are needed for oxygen. There’s an entire internet beneath the soil . These trees are so old and the animals are losing their homes . Greed everywhere.
I’ve bin on the Hecate before, but the boat I’m on now I’m my opinion is much nicer (B.C. Crew🤟🏼)
Hey, I've gotta ask. Is it really pronounced the way the narrator says in the vid?
The image of large timber rafts on the sea is truly impressive.
Most enjoyable viewing.
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Bloody great programme.
The raft system is used in the Puget Sound, I live on Whidbey Island Wa. and still see logs being towed to Everet Wa. on the mainland.
Used to go there often when I did live in Wa State in the 80s and 90s.
Next time add the tree planting part, excellent video.
Hard working people, mad props!
Did not see that truck on the cover with the redwood logs... but i recognized that as Louisiana pacific big lagoon
We see these guys even in the deepest places we can take our sailboat. We are usually alone but now and then we see a few guys out working the log booms. We will have to shout them out next time we see them :)
The chainsaw some of these guys use are modified works of art built by the best aftermarket guys in the world!
Eric build or by a portable sawmill and start selling to timberframers. keep up the beach combing but keep the logs. You will be amazed at how much red fir or Douglas fir as you guys call it up there goes for milled. Good luck, beautiful family and life.
That is a sick new line of business for him.
The logs actually belong to the companies that lost them...but he is payed for the service of keeping water ways safe to boaters.
Great doc!
My partner and I had a small logging co in the Catskill mountain region of nys.
We did selective timber harvesting. Mostly hardwood logging for veneer or rotary. Good money actually but the regulations were just insane in ny
Thats why NY loses almost 200k residents a year
Too many regs!
Good video. Thank you.👍
This must be some of the hardest working people I've ever seen, it's true we all want to safe the trees but this trees are not taken down in vain they provide a livelihood for the people
Eu amei a música, ajuda a relaxar e a se concentrar nos estudos!!!
42:39 Cute little boats! Looks like fun! :-)
Known as Dozer boats or Sidewinders.
Those are called 'boom boats', actually the real term is dozer boat. They're very small and the engine is way below deck and very strong. They can turned on a dime because the propeller is encapsulated in a big tube that you can steer thus making the boat super-duper maneuverable and is just about impossible to capsize. I worked for a company in the 70' building them. Its was fun
Shades of Relic (Robert Clothier), CBC Beachcombers series. Great video.
Born and bred in BC my father born in Oregon all loggers on west coast I’ve known would object to being called lumberjacks. That’s a term used for cutters of “little” trees down east according to one forty year veteran of multi generational family of “Loggers”.
Great, another easily offended group!!! People who don't have their own worth from their work...get offended at what some people call them. Most of us in the industry work hard and could care less what title is given!! Poor widdle male species.
Same here, grew up in B.C. coast logging camp until near school age. Surest way to proclaim "city boy, not from around here" is to use the word lumberjack. It always surprises me when people doing documentaries don't stumble across this particular fact.
Where is the high-end logging segment: the film goes from falling trees to boom tugs. How did these logs get there? I was a logger in Washington State, both high lead and gravity.
As a Canadian I’m so sickened by this .Looking back at our History,the only people that ever respected Mother Earth was the Native People’s . They only took what they needed .
Now there’s so much greed . I do hope the prices go so high , they can’t afford to buy these rare and precious resources. Shame on you all.
What is your house made of?
Those "Native Peoples" as you call them, just entered into an agreement with a Norwegian company to open an open-net fish farm at the mouth of Knight Inlet. Fish farming is the ultimate example of greed. Raise toxic fish in pens and destroy native fish in the process, all in the name of the mighty dollar. Come on up here to the north end of the island for a year or two and learn what life here is really like, then maybe you can speak with knowledge. And if your house is really made of stone in Canada, how is it insulated? What is the roof and floor made of? Can you honestly say there is no wood in your house? I doubt it.
@@two-sense Yes I have recycled wood from old barns . I agree the fishing is out of control too. I remember going camping here and the Natives were allowed to fish on a lake and some dispute with the government at the time, wouldn’t allow them to get their fish . As we went out into the lake it was horrendous because it was a sea of dead wasted fish they now weren’t allowed to have. So much waste. There’s good and bad everywhere. I do think there’s greed everywhere and it should be fair for everyone. I can’t imagine being in their shoes ,but my grandparents taught me to have.Compassion for everyone. We never really know what someone is going through. I saw my own father struggling to feed his young family. Obviously I’m not condoning that because it’s not right,but the animals are getting sick and in turn making us sick and depleting our planet. It’s sad .I grew up in the bush . I know what’s it’s like to rough it . We ate white fish 90% of the time sleeping in -40 degree weather. For years .
Love it ty for sharing it 💜💞🍦💞💚
33:35 a big corporation having a huge advantage with the cards stacked in their favour over a hard-working Canadian family? What a shocking revelation!! ):
@unclebuck hello,how are you doing
I work in the Timber business up in Northern Maine USA in the 70s and 80s jeez I wish I could go back to it I miss it I would not have traded it for the world as hard as it was……..Kip saw law
Husqvarna chainsaw with a Stihl bar. Never seen that one before. And I like chainsaws!
Good eye. It is interesting.
Gives me some ideas with my own gear.
Have a Stihl I bought with a 28 bar. Put a 20 on the motor and now it's a monster
Many RESPECT for Workers..
It would be truly nice if ALL of Canada's Lumber were required to be milled In Canada.
But then it would also be very nice IF the industry would plant more than they take and NOT take ANY of the Old Growth Trees. Leave those to live. There are plenty of others.
I don't care for clear-cutting either. Not only does it eliminate entire ecosystems with their own micro-climates but it also leaves a mess that quickly can become unstable and subject to serious erosion. All of which dries up, plugs and eliminates important river tributaries and major river water sources.
Of course, everyone knows this is a Fact but anyone in the industry will dispute it in protection of their jobs. To hell with the environment right ?
In Washington State they plant more then they take. We have some Tree Farms where the trees look like rows of corn. Clear cutting helps feed the wild life after a few years. There's more wild life now then there were ever before. Some Old Growth trees are dying, and should be harvested. Washington State loggers can't cut Old Growth anymore, because of the Spotted Owl!
"Yea though I walk through the valley of self-righteousness..."
Good vid, thanks
Hey boyz Where are the replacements? How long till new lumber ,this size and density will be available in this area? Bear in mind that another newly planted tree will not have the shear volume of canopy subjected to the sun's light ,that would take about 56 Newley planted trees 86 years to replace one days worth of oxygen generation. Do your homework before cutting down the rest.
hug a logger friendo u never go back to hugging trees
In 1200 years there will millions more that were planted by tree planters hired by the forest companies as part of the B.C. Forrest Management program and no not all old growth is harvested in B.C. some is protected.
Meanwhile enjoy 🏕 in your 🛢Oil Industry provided Nylon tent.
@@garnetdurham4643 .8% of old growth is left in BC. Second growth and new growth forests create completely different kinds of ecosystems - it's not just about the wood.
2:23 that guy trying to talk like movie actor😂. What the heck
"A magnificent primary forest" .... Lets cut it all down.... I recall as a kid being in BC & seeing clear cuts & the aftermath they left of old growth timber. Broke my heart then. Now I find myself wondering how much, if any, is left.
Yeah, 400, 1200 years old, magnificent primary forest...why they cutting it down?
Unless the house you live in is made entirely of clay there’s very little room for argument.
@@elinor6525 Because they're greedy? Spiritually empty?
Very little. From California to BC, only a tiny fraction of the ancient forest remains, maybe 5% at best. And if no one had taken action, it would be 0%. Logging companies are not our friends...
Great & interesting documentary
In British Columbia, we are loggers. Lumberjacks are back east.
I could be wrong but it meant falling trees with axes.my other guess is jack was common name for a faller back then. I am wondering if the boards they put into giant trees to stand on were called jacks?
It's not a question of geography. it is chronological. A logger has never heard of a whistlepunk, and a lumberjack wouldn't know how to sharpen a chain saw. (Roughly speaking, give or take a couple of generations)
@@Bear39224 Whistle punks are loggers. Anyone who knows West Coast logging history would know about whistle punks . My aunt was a whistle punk on Vancouver Island during WW2.
It's an insult to call a west coast logger a lumberjack. I'm not shitin you. Go to west Westport Washington into the notty pine and call a logger a lumberjack and see how quickly you and your teeth part ways.
@@johnwinnerdz1 Those boards were called `springboards".
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How much of the prime Douglas fir and Sitka spruce ends up on and in a fighter headed for China and Japan to be processed into furniture and sent back???
RESPECT!👍
B.C. is clear-cutting the last of its old growth forests. Why would they feel compelled to do that? Compared to Washington State, this is extraordinary. These forests can contain trees that are several hundred years old. Canada is huge. Preserve the oldest and best forests for future generations.
You've been brainwashed. Go there and figure it out for yourself, don't just believe what you've "heard".
Could it be that the trees are at the end of their lifecycle? There are lots of people that don't realize that that is a real thing. It of course differs per species. I'm not saying it is the case here, but I've been harassed for cutting down a tree that wasn't yet dead, but clearly dying.
Even if it isn't the truth, (i don't know the facts) just for mentioning the phrase "preserve for future generations" and putting that tought out there, deserves a like from my part.
Great documentary btw, the guy with his family, look as real as it gets, beautiful to see, happy and joyful.
Sounds like you've never ventured more than 1k from the forest service road. Try going outside for a change
@@someguy8109 Hehe, i feel you, i love nature and i take any day (when i can afford to do so lol) that extra leap to enjoy the beauty thats not visited by the most. Without cars people mostly don't go further then a 15-40 min walk. I mean after the road stops. Just to be clear i love hiking, i got your point, just wondered away a bit so i can share this with others as well! ;) Might i live in Toronto, but just a few hours up north you can find a different world here as well. Lets keep it that way, preserve that beauty and all that is feels like that to you and love. Not just the woods but everything that should be on that list. I kept it very general again because every people who reads this can enjoy and contribute to what they really love by realizing that we not just consumers, we need to have some kind of responsibility in life. Just to stay true to my original comment. :)
40 years ago I was working for ( Percy Logging ) in Knight Inlet . B C is such a Butifual Provance to live in
Low key made my heart sink knowing they chopped down a 1200 year old tree 5:30 , the world of forestry is intriguing, interested to understand more
What’s happening to our planet is heartbreaking. I just told someone above,the deer are so full of Covid that they can’t get rid of it. It’s passed back to humans. We’re in serious trouble here people. The Native Peoples only take what they need. We’re plundering resources to the point where there will be nothing left for our great grandchildren. It breaks my heart to see trees die. We’re breathing because of trees.
Great documentary!
Holy cow 1200 year old tree and you cut it down 😳
Sut it egg boy
In 1200 years there will millions more that were planted by tree planters hired by the forest companies as part of the B.C. Forrest Management program and no not all old growth is harvested in B.C. some is protected.
@@garnetdurham4643 Thank you, I appreciate your answer. My heart cried for the 1200yr old tree. Hello from Switzerland.
Amazing skills
Karen complaining about this right now while in a comfort of her home made of wood 😂
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And what would we do without the Karens of this world?
So wrong to destroy nature for stupid profits, there are other ways to profit from nature other than destroying it
If you live in a land of ice you make your home out of ice. If you live in a land of trees you make your home out of wood.
@@adilhakam887 and your solution is? Don't be providing complaints; that part is so easy, , tell us a better way, with proof; that part takes brains and thoughtful process. What say you now Adil??
what a fantastic video.....cheers
Crazy how they take pride in cutting old growth
Very informative and interesting viewing to date
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Very interesting and thank you so much.