f**ked up fact. This is not actually season two, but part 2 of season one. why did WB do this? because they would have to pay the animators more money if they made 2 seasons, so they paid for them to make one season and split it into 2.
Man, like, I get the *concept* of Velma. R-rated scooby doo isn't terrible, that's like 1/5th of the venture brothers. But like, the show clearly dislikes all of scooby doo so much I have to wonder *why* this is scooby doo? The answer is brand recognition, I know I don't like it, but it is.
The really confusing thing about it is, "R-Rated" Scooby Doo really seems to contradict the other premise of the show, which is "An origin story for Mystery Incorporated". It's REALLY bad how so much violence and sexualisation happens in a show about underaged teens. And by the end of the first season, I really struggle to see how they could POSSIBLY become a team after this. If they wanted to do R-Rated Scooby Doo, they should have had the characters be adults, and have them solving murder mysteries around the country, themed around costumed villains. Exploring concepts of race and sexuality in that format could also prove to be interesting: I have no problem with the idea of Shaggy, Daphne, and Velma being different races to the original (No problem with Fred either, but as far as I know, his race hasn't been changed in Velma). I also have no problem with Velma exploring her sexuality. The issue is, the show really doesn't seem to care about doing these elements well. And if they wanted to focus more on the "origin story" element, they really shouldn't have made it an R-Rated show. Origin stories have been done with the Scooby Doo series before, but it feels really weird to have an R-Rated origin story that doesn't seem to fit with ANY Scooby Doo show we've seen before, and seems dead-set on sexualising teens. But, alas, no matter how much I talk about it, it's not gonna change the harsh reality that Velma doesn't REALLY exist because people were really passionate for Scooby Doo. It seems to exist solely to generate controversy and doesn't seem to care about the franchise it's a part of.
The reason could anything from the classic mark miller/Garth Ennis idea of a hater of something making a form of that something loved just to show it’s fans how lame it is in the creators eyes and hoping they’ll find it just as lame or their doing content farm style in which their using the clout of the Scooby doo I.P. To attract attention to what is basically their Mary sue story
Venture Bros managed to find its wild identity within the first season. We learned so much about every character, goodies or baddies. Sometimes they even have to work together, because something from the past brings them together. There are actual character arcs that connect through each season But Velma. Um. Why? How does this keep going? All I have seen is a trailer, and I feel sick
The fun part is, this show isn't even the first time they made Scrappy-Doo "an invincible, bloodthirsty government science monster"; that honor(?) goes to _Scooby Apocalypse,_ a comic book which was fine but repetitive, but at least featured a cast who genuinely cared for each other and tried to be friends. *NOTHING* in _Velma_ is original, after all!
Even the live action Scooby Doo from 20 years ago featured Scrappy as the roided-out villain-in a much subtler critique of the way audiences hated the character
I thought they kinda did that in the life-action movie too (Also hey, nice to see someone else knowing about Scooby Apocalypse. I remember reading them since my dad gave them to my older sister for her birthday when I was younger)
And Mystery Inc gave a subtle nod with his statue in the museum. Which is still a better call out to the audience than anything in Velma. Didn't even need to spike the lens.
Whenever I hear someone vaguely outline the plot to Velma, it actually sounds kind of fun. But every clip I've seen is painful, and the plot details make no sense.
In fairness, the general idea isn't bad. Changing the races and top level relationships isn't a huge deal. They cast a Japanese actress as Velma for one of the movies with little to no issue. Scooby-Doo Apocalypse reimagined a lot of stuff while going dark. Mystery Inc had the crazy secret conspiracy and had them in romances. The problem is the show tried too hard to make commentary and turned every character into a meme factory. I think someone tried timing the jokes, and the show literally couldn't go 30 seconds without a meta comment. It's like an ultra-liberal's comedian throwing out statements to get applause of agreements.
@@bryanwoods3373 I am pretty liberal myself. And I don’t find Velma (the series) to be funny at all. Sad thing is she’s one of my favorite characters across most of the iterations of Scooby doo I’ve watched. (I haven’t watched many of the newer versions other than “Mystery Incorporated” and a few episodes of “What’s New Scooby Doo?” I couldn’t get into the other newer ones.
It's not the sole reason why it happens but it definitely does play a part especially when all the executives see is it getting high viewership which hate watching plays a role in.@@leavemealone802
This is not season 2, this show did the shady cuphead thing where they had one long season where they cut it in half to make two. Thus you get 2 seasons, paying the staff for one. Also a great deal of Vietnam War protesters were also Vets of the war, so yeah.
Just reminded me of the NBC miniseries about the 60s. Jerry O'Connell's character gets drafted and comes back addicted to pot and joins an anti-war protest.
I say it once I’ll say it again, Velma is a good idea conceptually. Adult Scooby doo where they solve murder-mysteries instead of mysteries is a great idea. It’s just every layer of the execution of Velma is bad, and seemingly made by people who are cynical or loathing of the source material. As if the writers are saying _nobody would watch adult Scooby doo, that’s ridiculous! We need to prove it’s not a kids show_ and therefore ruin any familiar iconography and charm that the premise would allow.
Exactly! We basically need a less censored, slightly darker Mystery Incorporated. We've already seen a more serious Scooby-Doo show work, it just needs the right team behind it.
Even the two live action films asked "what if the worst monsters, are the ones not wearing suits?" You see how everything changes, tone, atmosphere, environment, and expression. If a mature based Mystery Inc took a deep dive, it doesn't have to be snarky or lame. Maybe explore stories about the baddies they put away, some break out, and things get dark when people go missing, eventually one of the gang winds up in the middle.. Instead of whatever Velma series is. 🤔
I do think an adult oriented version of Scooby could work, even as a murder mystery. Give it the tone of a show like Psych, have Fred be the cop, Daphne the resource acquisition, Velma the brain, then Shag and Scoop as the ones with the street beat. It could work and well.
Smearing an actual good detective show with this random children's IP, could never be an adult-oriented decision. Except by stretching "adult" wider that the defintion of "gender" in US neologisms, and the childish rebellion AGAINST those neologisms.
@@athroughzdude technically as the show went on... they were kinda investigating murders? insofar as murders were happening/happened in service to the greater mystery
The things that bum me out the most is how some aspects of and ideas behind this show; like the character designs, moments of high animation quality, the gang being a bit more cognizant of the issues that today's younger generation talk about, etc; could have worked really well if the actual meat underneath hadn't been completely rancid and written by hacks.
When you mentioned they translated Shaggy loving eating food into Norville having an eating disorder due to stress, I was reminded of in Fant4stic when they made “It’s clobberin’ time” the phrase Ben Grimm’s older brother would say as he abused him. Just turning something fun into something depressing for… what reason? To be edgy?
Yeah that note in Fant4stic was.. I'm not sure why they went so dark But it could be because of something in Ultimate, since those comics did go more moody, mature, and dark as well Note: Ultimates has been rebooted. Fant4stic was based on the earlier series of comics
I don't remember it being a thing in the Ultimate Fantastic Four comic, but it has been a while. My instinct is that Ben met Reed stopping a bully from beating him. Which is only a slight improvement from when Ben was just part of a gang.
@@kadosho02 It wasn’t. Ultimate Fantastic Four had clobbering time be a quote his football coach used to say before a big game. So it was a just something unnecessarily dark the movie made for no reason.
"Dropping the entirety of season two all at once with little to no warning didn't feel like a fun surprise for viewers. It felt like a threat." Banger line and maybe the one thing the show's production staff would least want to hear in a review of a TV show they worked hard on.
@@vitaminwater9662 too? I'm curious what other thing I've cried over. I mean, I did tear up through all of One Life. The true story of rescuing Jewish children during WW2 is moving. I also teared up at the end of La La Land because it hit real close to home. Oh, there was this modern western that I don't remember the name of that made me tear up at the end because it hit home to my deceased great grandparents. Other than that, I don't remember crying during a movie or show
I don’t intend to watch Velma but this show feels like it was made by somebody whose only exposure to Scooby-Doo was the 2002 live action movie. But like only the memes featuring it.
"My son is a screw-up, I can't let him inherit the family business like this!" and the only answer to that conundrum was... murders and brain transplant? I feel like there might have been other options you could try - hell, even other _"immoral Scooby-Doo villain"_ options (but that might've required some modicum of interesting or intelligent writing to pull off.)
Could've literally just married him off to some ambitious gold digger and trained them to manipulate him into making good business decisions. Or adopted some other kid then arrange an "accident" for Fred. There are so many easier ways she could've solved the problem.
Honestly, they could have made a great joke out of it as well...Just like SAO abridge did. "Why didn't you just...adopt a more fitting child that could take over if you couldn't have another child? Yes Fred might be a bit hurt by it, but if you just promised him a bit of money or like...an icecream or whatever..he would have been completely fine with it.." "Ha, see, the reason I did not do that was because that simple solution never even crossed my mind and damn do I feel kinda stupid right now...What ya say son? Wanna go find a new brother for you? I will give you an icecre.. *Gets smashed by boulder* "
So their “SELF-AWARE SUBVERSIVE FINALE” is… a complete ripoff of the ending of the first Scooby-Doo live action movie, where Scrappy is the secret evil villain because his character annoyed people in some other Scooby projects. Wow, great job, Velma show. Really breaking new ground with this joke right here 🙄
4:08 Honestly references like this would be neat if it was a totally unrelated show saying hey we got Scooby-Doo references for you cause we're a mystery show isn't that fun, but because it is a "Scooby-Doo" show trying not to be a Scooby-Doo show making these references it is just wrong and bad and cheap
I don't know if this is a country-wide thought, but here in Mexico, Scrappy is mostly liked, and it really came as a surprise when suddenly every Scooby media turn him and Flim-Flam as widely disliked. I assume it has something to do with the localized version of the shows, much like "top cat" (another H-B show succesful here as opposed to the US).
Something I didn't mention in this video but I did mention in my review of the first season: I know people do actually like this show, and that's great! I wish I was you! I like when things are good!
I wish I would’ve loved the show, but I honestly just have it on as background noise cause if I start paying attention it just upsets me lmao I don’t know why people like the show
I don’t think that is great; it’s mainly the only Scooby content right now and it will form a lot of impressions, and the popularity from hate watching will influence the franchise
It is kinda funny how My Adventures with Superman is like the perfect antiphysis for Velma Both are reimagining of a popular Warner Bros properties, except Velma is just Nialistic Buzz words in the forms of incoherent Sentences and the other Superman being hopeful and kind in even most dire of circumstances
James Gunn did alot of damage to scrappy doo from the live action movie 20 years ago. My parents entire generation hated scrappy for whatever reason, even though I always liked him, and for some time, they have only demonized him or let him fall to the wayside. Justice for Scrappy.
Did you know that he was literally the third option too? There was an option with a supernatural force completely irrelevant to the franchise, and also a brief throwaround of Old Man Jenkins from the beginning. Scrappy was option C and led to an entire redirect in an audience's perception if a character in a pre-established franchise Edit: Im also not sure even James Gunn hated him iirc
@@strisselstudios3932 as a person that I’m guessing is a part of your parents generation I will give you hope and saying that not all of us hated scrappy. In fact, some of us loved his character.
“Made a series that simultaneously feels like you’re constantly being bombarded with plot points and clues and a thousand flashbacks, all while the actual narrative barely moves forward.” You’re describing Riverdale, lmao.
Gotta say the joke about fred becoming a catholic then when velma tells him to Google the catholic church heavily implying the obvious bad thing that happed only for him to see they want to take his money. It was just enough of a subversion of expectation to be unironically really funny.
The scrappy reveal and watching his horrific design move truly shocked me. I haven't been open-mouthed shocked like that since the Shapeland reveal from Defuntcland's fastpass video. Bless this channel
Velma seems like a show that would have a character turn their head, look at the camera, and say, "A TV show with a talking dog would be a bad TV show."
You can't stop me from being a goblin mr. Sync. I'm gonna hide in this little cave next to a treasure chest and drop a +1 dagger of poisoning when I'm slain.
@@relic5752 I have a few notes with Mystery Inc. Regardless, I feel like that show is more about the overarching and paranormal stories with shipping sprinkled in. I'm thinking more of mystery of the week with queer themes. I'm still not sure what the overarching mystery is going to be. But I don't want it to be actual paranormal stuff.
Man, your set up is gorgeous. The green, purple and orange is a wonderfully well made color story you have here This was a beautiful video to watch! You have an eye!
The editing to remove any silence is real. I went to see a sitcom taping about eight years ago. They would shoot a scene that ran for 9-10 minutes. In that 9-10 minutes there were maybe four honestly earned laughs. When I watched it on TV, they cut out any filler dialog not needed for the punchline and all the fractions of a second between lines of dialog. Each line of dialog was a different camera shot so they could trim out the silence. The 9-10 minutes was compressed to about 80 seconds and the audience seemed like they were on drugs because the laughed four times in just over a minute.
Even the idea of scrappy being a science project of the military and having super power isnt original becouse thats how scrappy was portrayed in one of the scooby doo comic runs
I think the only genuine requirement for me to love any Scooby-Doo property- be it old, new, goofy, or alternative universe- is that, no matter what, the gang cares about each other. If they aren't already close friends, they are on the journey of becoming friends because they want to care about and engage with one another. Series like Velma and even Mystery Incorporated. have such tonally discordant writing that it really walls me from engaging with those iterations of the characters. I struggle so hard to understand how these people are friends, let alone choose to keep interacting with one another outside of a mystery case that forces them to talk. Other series have wonderfully explored who the gang are outside of just cases, and how they overcome personal conflicts (even Mystery Incorporated succeeded in this to a degree!). I love how the 2000's live action movies build up and then get everyone to admit they genuinely miss each other when they're not there. Velma's writing across both 'seasons' seems more interested in thumbing its nose at its parent franchise to a degree of unironic distain, rather than a sincere reflection, critique, or expansion, and that bleeds over into how the characters are written. I hope the next Scooby properties take a step back from having the gang being so vitriolic to each other.
I would 100% watch a justice for scrappy video. The CN reruns of scooby the later episodes were always a treat for me as a kid. I actually liked 13 ghosts. Though the new characters and different designs were a little challenging for me to acclimate to
Then theres helluva boss which draws you in with the swearing and violence and then it breaks your heart with emotional falcon punches And has a musical number in every episode
I think despite stuff like the Simpsons animation is still seen as being most for kids so the "adult" shows try and be kid unfriendly. The end result is usually quite immature, it's like a young teens idea of what mature is, all swearing and mentioning sex with no actual depth. The end result is many "children's" shows are actually far more intelligent and deal with more mature themes.
Scrappy's design(at least when "wild/berserk") reminds me mobile game ads. Like. I can almost see the red and green buttons that read "PET +1 companion" "KILL +9000 EXP"
Wasn’t the whole reason why Scooby Doo himself is not in the show is because he’s a talking dog? If that’s the case… then why the hail is Scrappy in it?
"13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo was a bit of a miss for me." It's kinda hard to finish a series when one of your voice actors dies, especially when the character is based on the actor, & therefore cannot be replaced.
In Brazil Scrappy doo (Scooby loo here) is loved. The voice actor of Scrappy is now doing the Scooby voice. I think here we were not over exposed as in USA and the Brazilian voice is not anoying it is like the Scooby voice but as a puppy. The admiration of Scrappy for Scooby could bring good stories. Hope one day Warner realizes it. I hated to see Scrappy as a villain in the first movie. This is one of the motives that I find the second movie better.
I'm not proud to share this, but I do think it's an important counterpoint: my father was drafted to go to Vietnam and he was very angry with the government about it, but he did, of his own choice, do violence to at least one anti-war protester during military leave. They absolutely would have been able to find plenty of conservative a-holes like my dad for this brain switch plan.
At this point, having Scrappy be evil is just the laziest plot twist they could think of. It's been done. You're not clever, Velma writers. I'm not a Scrappy Doo Apologist, but even I'm craving justice for the poor pup being abused for so long.
Thank you for actually mentioning the protestes I'm your video. It's making me crazy how we are over 7 months into this and most of RUclips are still pretending it's not happening.
(Spoiler warning for Peele's flick Get Out) --- Around 28:10 you mention the brain swapping element as possibly being a rip off from the body swapping in the first scooby doo movie. My intuition is that the brain swapping element is either an intentional or unintentional rip off from Peele's Get Out though due to the tone, genre, aesthetic and political leaning of Velma. I do think Scrappy being the villain is an intentional rip off from the live action scooby doo.
I think it's disgusting appropriation to take someone else's story and make it awful, alienating the people who made it, enjoyed it, and made it profitable. This show is gross.
hot take: race changes should be judged on a _case by case_ basis. Marvel Studios changes races all the time; but it's good because they found the best casting for the role, and that just happened to involve a race change. Velma, on the other hand, changed character races because they claimed the cast "related" to the original characters; except that was an utter lie because none of the characters behave like they are supposed to.
I’m utterly amazed by the cultural Scrappy Doo hatred. I was infected as well and for the life of me I can barely remember why. Maybe it was the absence of favourite characters in his seasons, or his penchant for causing issues, or his annoying voice. Still I’d love to hear more about Scrappy and his positive impacts, maybe a deep dive into what happened to make everyone turn on him.
This show what feels like what happens when the head writers/showrunners have never watched a scooby doo show but wanted a recognizable ip to bandwangon off of and some script editor or someone not leading the team had to add bits and pieces of refrences of scooby doo to try and make it even mildly based on the source material.
You slowly disappearing behind Emily's shoulder like a lunar eclipse cracked me up. Even the unintentional jokes in this video are funnier than an entire season of Velma.
Just raising my hand to say I'd like to see that scrappy doo video. Kinda surprised you've not made one already. Because yeah, I remember watching the liva action movie for the first time and when he's revealed as the villain thinking "Oh we're meant to think that scrappy annoying? Are we all meant to hate scrappy?...he's....fine?"
Has anyone seen Mystery Skulls? Their Music Videos are parodies of Scooby Doo, and they also have a long running story about their "Shaggy" being haunted by the ghost of "Fred" after "Shaggy" killed him. Now, there are clear differences, but having seen things from Velma 2, I am almost positive that someone on the writing staff saw these music videos and took inspiration. Which also feels like it was inspired from Venture Brothers, when we find out that Scooby Doo parody had "Shaggy" kill previous clones of Hank and Dean. It is really, really weird and coincidental that the character that is haunted by a death of another character that they were responsible for is "Shaggy", multiple times.
I liked the part where she said its "Velmin' time" and started Velmin in the amazon with my mom, when she was researchint Scoobies, right before she died.
@@katherinealvarez9216 I mean, the people who approved the project were probably hoping for something good. Just for whatever reason, the writers, producers, Mindy, etc really just opted to fart their way through it. I would be so interested in a behind the scenes for this show.
@@lyndsaybrown8471 me too, I always like watching those making of or BTS features and even though those are all polished, they're cool to see and learn how a film or show is made
meh, i personally don't think racebending is that interesting, at least not on its own. You have to do a lot of work to make it interesting and I don't believe Velma did so at all. And because it matters apparently, I'm latina so folks are aware. I feel like we should stop giving beloved franchises to people who obviously hate them as a concept. The team behind this has said openly they think scooby doo is stupid.
27:02 Scrappy was the first time I realise that cartoons I like could make bad decisions when my uncle said he didn't like him. I kind of just accepted his existence when I was younger cuz As far as I knew pretty much been a part of the show. I'd be interested in a video talking Him
Dammit, Scott, stop packing your videos with so many delicious puns (cover Scooby Doo? A masterpiece), my lungs and sides are starting to hurt watching these. Edit: Yay, Emily and a kitty! I love this video even more.
im not just a goblin, i'm a space alien goblin from the andromeda galaxy, here to plant my evidence about how velma is secretly hiding references to vimanas. this has been a comment for engagement metrics, love your stuff scott
I'm part hobbit part hoka, part human. I'm the result of a genetics experiment gone wrong. I don't mind some tech, but I like it old school by 2024 standards. I like things cuddly and goofy and unpredictable. But I've also got morals. Ok, I'm not really a mistake. But I am on the early leading edge of what's called Generation x. I was born in 1968 , 1 year before o g. Scooby Doo and o.g. sesame Street started. I don't like haters messing with them.
YOU’RE AGENDER?!?! YOOOOOOOOO I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE I genuinely had no idea and I’ve been popping in to watch the occasional video of yours for years now!
I think the lesson with this show getting a second season is that if something isn’t your cup of tea and you know you’re not going to like it, just don’t watch it. Don’t do what some critics do and “hate watch” something, because whether people like it or not, the views speak for themselves to the studio heads. They will green light anything that sells and makes them money. And in this case, the more views this show gets, the more money they make. Be apart of the solution, not the problem.
I agree with the general sentiment of not hate watching, but animated properties tend to be greenlit for 2 seasons anyway, since animation takes time, and the team needs to be pretty far ahead to stay ahead of airdates without delays.
The thing with critics is is that they make money off of being critics. It's not a hobby, that era of the internet is dead. It's pure profit motive. Hatewatching is required to make money-generating content.
I’m going to give the brown on rice joke a pass. As a POC child, I was horrified to find out that the natural color of rice was brown and that it was processed and bleached to get that white minute round rice. My friends and I immediately switched to from saying “white on rice” to “brown on rice,” It’s something people in my culture still say. So, I can’t get too mad about that joke in particular.
Bleached? Lmao, is that some american thing? 🤦♂ In Japan, there are little stations all across the country that remove the husks and polish the grains, no bleaching whatsoever.
No, rice natural colour is not brown, the husk of the rice is brown but you remove that before eating. Also there exist different kinds of rice with different colours.
Wait wait wait wait wait hold up. So this scientist in season one finds a way to keep peoples' brains alive outside of their bodies so they can be transferred and so Fred's mom murders a bunch of girls to get their brains to be potential transplant subjects for Fred and ... then what? Does she expect they'll just ACCEPT this new identity? And does she actually succeed in keeping them alive? Are they STILL ALIVE at the end of the season? OH GOD THAT'S HORRIFYING.
Thank you for going through all that so that I don't have to feel like maybe I should go back and watch it to see if the rest was as bad as the first two.
It's amazing that you managed to wade through two seasons and still manage to find the positive despite the pain of watching it. Also, kudos on the Daphne green & purple! Now to dig through the back catalogue for your take on Mystery Inc.
So far this is the second time I've heard any talk about this season of Velma, the first time I heard about it was from your short, so I think we can all say there will not be a season 3, it's almost as if people don't have the patience to hate watch many seasons of a show. Perhaps trying to attract an audience through animosity is not very sustainable??
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Why do people hate Scrappy Doo? Seriously, just make him a cute puppy. We love puppies. Paw Patrol is a thing.
I'm not a goblin.
@@katherinealvarez9216my opinion is based entirely off the live action movie and he's just a bit of a douche
f**ked up fact. This is not actually season two, but part 2 of season one. why did WB do this? because they would have to pay the animators more money if they made 2 seasons, so they paid for them to make one season and split it into 2.
By the way that's not toxic that's realistic. Course I'm sure reality offends you.
Man, like, I get the *concept* of Velma. R-rated scooby doo isn't terrible, that's like 1/5th of the venture brothers. But like, the show clearly dislikes all of scooby doo so much I have to wonder *why* this is scooby doo?
The answer is brand recognition, I know I don't like it, but it is.
The really confusing thing about it is, "R-Rated" Scooby Doo really seems to contradict the other premise of the show, which is "An origin story for Mystery Incorporated". It's REALLY bad how so much violence and sexualisation happens in a show about underaged teens. And by the end of the first season, I really struggle to see how they could POSSIBLY become a team after this.
If they wanted to do R-Rated Scooby Doo, they should have had the characters be adults, and have them solving murder mysteries around the country, themed around costumed villains. Exploring concepts of race and sexuality in that format could also prove to be interesting: I have no problem with the idea of Shaggy, Daphne, and Velma being different races to the original (No problem with Fred either, but as far as I know, his race hasn't been changed in Velma). I also have no problem with Velma exploring her sexuality. The issue is, the show really doesn't seem to care about doing these elements well.
And if they wanted to focus more on the "origin story" element, they really shouldn't have made it an R-Rated show. Origin stories have been done with the Scooby Doo series before, but it feels really weird to have an R-Rated origin story that doesn't seem to fit with ANY Scooby Doo show we've seen before, and seems dead-set on sexualising teens.
But, alas, no matter how much I talk about it, it's not gonna change the harsh reality that Velma doesn't REALLY exist because people were really passionate for Scooby Doo. It seems to exist solely to generate controversy and doesn't seem to care about the franchise it's a part of.
The reason could anything from the classic mark miller/Garth Ennis idea of a hater of something making a form of that something loved just to show it’s fans how lame it is in the creators eyes and hoping they’ll find it just as lame or their doing content farm style in which their using the clout of the Scooby doo I.P. To attract attention to what is basically their Mary sue story
Venture Bros managed to find its wild identity within the first season. We learned so much about every character, goodies or baddies. Sometimes they even have to work together, because something from the past brings them together. There are actual character arcs that connect through each season
But Velma. Um. Why? How does this keep going? All I have seen is a trailer, and I feel sick
R rated Scooby could be awesome. But this shit isn’t it. I’ll ask again, WHY ARE SHAGGY AND VELMA BLACK!?
@@KegOfMeat Shaggy and Velma's race have nothing to do with it. Begone with this racism.
The fun part is, this show isn't even the first time they made Scrappy-Doo "an invincible, bloodthirsty government science monster"; that honor(?) goes to _Scooby Apocalypse,_ a comic book which was fine but repetitive, but at least featured a cast who genuinely cared for each other and tried to be friends. *NOTHING* in _Velma_ is original, after all!
Even the live action Scooby Doo from 20 years ago featured Scrappy as the roided-out villain-in a much subtler critique of the way audiences hated the character
Would love to see them apology adapt this into a movie or something
I thought they kinda did that in the life-action movie too
(Also hey, nice to see someone else knowing about Scooby Apocalypse. I remember reading them since my dad gave them to my older sister for her birthday when I was younger)
And Mystery Inc gave a subtle nod with his statue in the museum. Which is still a better call out to the audience than anything in Velma. Didn't even need to spike the lens.
To be fair scooby doo has so many different properties, it's the only franchise that competes with "simpsons did it"
So happy for Scrappy. He redeemed himself in a public consciousness by killing Velma, a true blight on a Scooby-Doo franchise.
It should just end here.
The series has redeemed himself. He will be popular
Whenever I hear someone vaguely outline the plot to Velma, it actually sounds kind of fun. But every clip I've seen is painful, and the plot details make no sense.
Well, Stollen Fun Story Beats do give off a Good Impression sometimes until you see past the BS. 🐂 💩
In fairness, the general idea isn't bad. Changing the races and top level relationships isn't a huge deal. They cast a Japanese actress as Velma for one of the movies with little to no issue. Scooby-Doo Apocalypse reimagined a lot of stuff while going dark. Mystery Inc had the crazy secret conspiracy and had them in romances. The problem is the show tried too hard to make commentary and turned every character into a meme factory. I think someone tried timing the jokes, and the show literally couldn't go 30 seconds without a meta comment. It's like an ultra-liberal's comedian throwing out statements to get applause of agreements.
@@bryanwoods3373 It's like rick and morty, it feels insecure about itself and that affects the humor and story
@@bryanwoods3373 I am pretty liberal myself. And I don’t find Velma (the series) to be funny at all. Sad thing is she’s one of my favorite characters across most of the iterations of Scooby doo I’ve watched. (I haven’t watched many of the newer versions other than “Mystery Incorporated” and a few episodes of “What’s New Scooby Doo?” I couldn’t get into the other newer ones.
Remember, NO HATE WATCHING. Don’t allow this to be renewed for a 3rd season 😭
It's just a tv show it isnt the end of the world
I still don't believe hate watching giving more seasons is a thing
@@leavemealone802eh it’s part of it since numbers are part of it
Views means that they get funding@@leavemealone802
It's not the sole reason why it happens but it definitely does play a part especially when all the executives see is it getting high viewership which hate watching plays a role in.@@leavemealone802
This is not season 2, this show did the shady cuphead thing where they had one long season where they cut it in half to make two. Thus you get 2 seasons, paying the staff for one. Also a great deal of Vietnam War protesters were also Vets of the war, so yeah.
Just reminded me of the NBC miniseries about the 60s. Jerry O'Connell's character gets drafted and comes back addicted to pot and joins an anti-war protest.
I say it once I’ll say it again, Velma is a good idea conceptually. Adult Scooby doo where they solve murder-mysteries instead of mysteries is a great idea.
It’s just every layer of the execution of Velma is bad, and seemingly made by people who are cynical or loathing of the source material. As if the writers are saying _nobody would watch adult Scooby doo, that’s ridiculous! We need to prove it’s not a kids show_ and therefore ruin any familiar iconography and charm that the premise would allow.
Exactly! We basically need a less censored, slightly darker Mystery Incorporated. We've already seen a more serious Scooby-Doo show work, it just needs the right team behind it.
Even the two live action films asked "what if the worst monsters, are the ones not wearing suits?"
You see how everything changes, tone, atmosphere, environment, and expression.
If a mature based Mystery Inc took a deep dive, it doesn't have to be snarky or lame. Maybe explore stories about the baddies they put away, some break out, and things get dark when people go missing, eventually one of the gang winds up in the middle..
Instead of whatever Velma series is. 🤔
"Tune in right now to learn that it's both" is my "Same seats"
The gods
Well now, isn't this a pleasant surprise. Does this mean we can expect a 'Will it Canon?' for Velma some time soon?
I do think an adult oriented version of Scooby could work, even as a murder mystery. Give it the tone of a show like Psych, have Fred be the cop, Daphne the resource acquisition, Velma the brain, then Shag and Scoop as the ones with the street beat. It could work and well.
Psych literally is adult scooby doo. I would love something like that but im not sure it will happen.
Smearing an actual good detective show with this random children's IP, could never be an adult-oriented decision.
Except by stretching "adult" wider that the defintion of "gender" in US neologisms, and the childish rebellion AGAINST those neologisms.
Is that not Mysteries Inc.?
@@charlesintune None of them investigated murders nor were they adults last I watched that, though I didn't see it all the way through.
@@athroughzdude technically as the show went on... they were kinda investigating murders? insofar as murders were happening/happened in service to the greater mystery
Such a shame that most shows get canceled way too early yet this garbage gets more funding.
its to meet dei quota guidelines
capitalism
@@theswan1852 And the fact yall keep watching shit you hate
@@vitaminwater9662 not me, dude
The things that bum me out the most is how some aspects of and ideas behind this show; like the character designs, moments of high animation quality, the gang being a bit more cognizant of the issues that today's younger generation talk about, etc; could have worked really well if the actual meat underneath hadn't been completely rancid and written by hacks.
When the show is being genuine, its actually quite good. But then it ruins everything
@@utatanepiko7087 so, whenever velma was on screen?
When you mentioned they translated Shaggy loving eating food into Norville having an eating disorder due to stress, I was reminded of in Fant4stic when they made “It’s clobberin’ time” the phrase Ben Grimm’s older brother would say as he abused him. Just turning something fun into something depressing for… what reason? To be edgy?
Yeah that note in Fant4stic was..
I'm not sure why they went so dark
But it could be because of something in Ultimate, since those comics did go more moody, mature, and dark as well
Note: Ultimates has been rebooted. Fant4stic was based on the earlier series of comics
Oh my god that's hilarious
I don't remember it being a thing in the Ultimate Fantastic Four comic, but it has been a while. My instinct is that Ben met Reed stopping a bully from beating him. Which is only a slight improvement from when Ben was just part of a gang.
@@kadosho02 It wasn’t. Ultimate Fantastic Four had clobbering time be a quote his football coach used to say before a big game. So it was a just something unnecessarily dark the movie made for no reason.
as a itty bitty kid I loved scrappy-doo so much, I would constantly yell "puppy power!" at any given opportunity.
Word.
Dude, same. Although I would usually exclaim it whenever I successfully unclogged the toilet. I felt REALLY proud whenever I did that.
@@mitchfletcher2386 as you should
"Dropping the entirety of season two all at once with little to no warning didn't feel like a fun surprise for viewers. It felt like a threat."
Banger line and maybe the one thing the show's production staff would least want to hear in a review of a TV show they worked hard on.
Let the Bob's Burgers people make a more mature Scooby series. They've proven they can make a show with mature themes while still being wholesome
Are you gonna cry when that show doesnt live up to your standards too?
@@vitaminwater9662 too? I'm curious what other thing I've cried over. I mean, I did tear up through all of One Life. The true story of rescuing Jewish children during WW2 is moving. I also teared up at the end of La La Land because it hit real close to home. Oh, there was this modern western that I don't remember the name of that made me tear up at the end because it hit home to my deceased great grandparents. Other than that, I don't remember crying during a movie or show
I don’t intend to watch Velma but this show feels like it was made by somebody whose only exposure to Scooby-Doo was the 2002 live action movie. But like only the memes featuring it.
"My son is a screw-up, I can't let him inherit the family business like this!" and the only answer to that conundrum was... murders and brain transplant?
I feel like there might have been other options you could try - hell, even other _"immoral Scooby-Doo villain"_ options (but that might've required some modicum of interesting or intelligent writing to pull off.)
Could've literally just married him off to some ambitious gold digger and trained them to manipulate him into making good business decisions. Or adopted some other kid then arrange an "accident" for Fred. There are so many easier ways she could've solved the problem.
To be fair, villains choosing to pursue overcomplicated solutions to their problems is a staple of the Scooby-Doo franchise.
Or just. Don't leave him the business
Like am I crazy? Write someone else's name in your will
Honestly, they could have made a great joke out of it as well...Just like SAO abridge did.
"Why didn't you just...adopt a more fitting child that could take over if you couldn't have another child? Yes Fred might be a bit hurt by it, but if you just promised him a bit of money or like...an icecream or whatever..he would have been completely fine with it.."
"Ha, see, the reason I did not do that was because that simple solution never even crossed my mind and damn do I feel kinda stupid right now...What ya say son? Wanna go find a new brother for you? I will give you an icecre.. *Gets smashed by boulder* "
Gotta love how a show built on the premise of empowering the female Mystery Inc characters fails to give Daphne *anything* to do.
10:31 "just SAY the fuck word" is my new favorite sentence
So their “SELF-AWARE SUBVERSIVE FINALE” is… a complete ripoff of the ending of the first Scooby-Doo live action movie, where Scrappy is the secret evil villain because his character annoyed people in some other Scooby projects. Wow, great job, Velma show. Really breaking new ground with this joke right here 🙄
4:08 Honestly references like this would be neat if it was a totally unrelated show saying hey we got Scooby-Doo references for you cause we're a mystery show isn't that fun, but because it is a "Scooby-Doo" show trying not to be a Scooby-Doo show making these references it is just wrong and bad and cheap
I don't know if this is a country-wide thought, but here in Mexico, Scrappy is mostly liked, and it really came as a surprise when suddenly every Scooby media turn him and Flim-Flam as widely disliked. I assume it has something to do with the localized version of the shows, much like "top cat" (another H-B show succesful here as opposed to the US).
Oh, no, Top Cat's great. Even I like Top Cat. And I'm not American.
Something I didn't mention in this video but I did mention in my review of the first season: I know people do actually like this show, and that's great! I wish I was you! I like when things are good!
I want to meet these people so I can try to understand their world
who are these people and what do they do to enjoy this cause...with all my scooby doo loving heart, I CANNOT.
@Moundshroud. Can I ask why?
I wish I would’ve loved the show, but I honestly just have it on as background noise cause if I start paying attention it just upsets me lmao I don’t know why people like the show
I don’t think that is great; it’s mainly the only Scooby content right now and it will form a lot of impressions, and the popularity from hate watching will influence the franchise
It is kinda funny how My Adventures with Superman is like the perfect antiphysis for Velma
Both are reimagining of a popular Warner Bros properties, except Velma is just Nialistic Buzz words in the forms of incoherent Sentences and the other Superman being hopeful and kind in even most dire of circumstances
I just don't care about a Scooby-Doo show without Scooby-Doo. I like my talking dog eating comically large sandwiches.
James Gunn did alot of damage to scrappy doo from the live action movie 20 years ago. My parents entire generation hated scrappy for whatever reason, even though I always liked him, and for some time, they have only demonized him or let him fall to the wayside. Justice for Scrappy.
Did you know that he was literally the third option too? There was an option with a supernatural force completely irrelevant to the franchise, and also a brief throwaround of Old Man Jenkins from the beginning. Scrappy was option C and led to an entire redirect in an audience's perception if a character in a pre-established franchise
Edit: Im also not sure even James Gunn hated him iirc
@@strisselstudios3932 as a person that I’m guessing is a part of your parents generation I will give you hope and saying that not all of us hated scrappy. In fact, some of us loved his character.
James Gunn did a lot of damage. Full stop.
"And that's everything good I have to say. :)"
[Looks at runtime]
So this writing team only watched the first live action Scooby movie and skimmed the Scooby-Doo Apocalypse comics...
Please make the Scarppy defence video. I love that dog and I hate how he’s been demonised
I hate the fact that it’s the only other joke the franchise can tell anymore.
I used to like Scrappy as a kid too.
@@lyndsaybrown8471Liked him since I was a kid, still like him now.
“Made a series that simultaneously feels like you’re constantly being bombarded with plot points and clues and a thousand flashbacks, all while the actual narrative barely moves forward.”
You’re describing Riverdale, lmao.
True. True.
Other people are claiming that Vellma 2 isn't a second season. But the back half of the first season which was split apart to save money.
Gotta say the joke about fred becoming a catholic then when velma tells him to Google the catholic church heavily implying the obvious bad thing that happed only for him to see they want to take his money. It was just enough of a subversion of expectation to be unironically really funny.
yes PLEASE give scrappy doo the justice he deserves.
Scrappy getting to kill this version of Velma is the most respect he's ever gotten.
@@davidburton4836At least, after the late 80s.
The scrappy reveal and watching his horrific design move truly shocked me. I haven't been open-mouthed shocked like that since the Shapeland reveal from Defuntcland's fastpass video. Bless this channel
The fit is giving Daphne and I love it
Velma seems like a show that would have a character turn their head, look at the camera, and say, "A TV show with a talking dog would be a bad TV show."
You can't stop me from being a goblin mr. Sync. I'm gonna hide in this little cave next to a treasure chest and drop a +1 dagger of poisoning when I'm slain.
I'm gonna make a Scooby fanfic with queer characters and an actual overarching mystery just to prove it can be done
Does Mystery Incorporated not already prove that though? So, no pressure to prove something, make a queer Scooby-Doo fanfic as a passion project
@@relic5752 I have a few notes with Mystery Inc. Regardless, I feel like that show is more about the overarching and paranormal stories with shipping sprinkled in. I'm thinking more of mystery of the week with queer themes.
I'm still not sure what the overarching mystery is going to be. But I don't want it to be actual paranormal stuff.
Shaggy starting to stress eat would have been better if throughout the season he started to show traits that Shaggy traditionally has
“Did Velma get any better?”
Me: “Did Scooby in this Scooby-less show punch a testicle?”
Isn't scrappy in this show now, without scooby?
Man, your set up is gorgeous. The green, purple and orange is a wonderfully well made color story you have here
This was a beautiful video to watch! You have an eye!
The editing to remove any silence is real. I went to see a sitcom taping about eight years ago. They would shoot a scene that ran for 9-10 minutes. In that 9-10 minutes there were maybe four honestly earned laughs.
When I watched it on TV, they cut out any filler dialog not needed for the punchline and all the fractions of a second between lines of dialog. Each line of dialog was a different camera shot so they could trim out the silence. The 9-10 minutes was compressed to about 80 seconds and the audience seemed like they were on drugs because the laughed four times in just over a minute.
Loving the Daphne-core outfit, Scott! Thank you for your service of watching this show and telling me about it so I don't have to watch it myself.
Even the idea of scrappy being a science project of the military and having super power isnt original becouse thats how scrappy was portrayed in one of the scooby doo comic runs
Ris row rucks.
Rhis ritch roughta rie
I think the only genuine requirement for me to love any Scooby-Doo property- be it old, new, goofy, or alternative universe- is that, no matter what, the gang cares about each other. If they aren't already close friends, they are on the journey of becoming friends because they want to care about and engage with one another. Series like Velma and even Mystery Incorporated. have such tonally discordant writing that it really walls me from engaging with those iterations of the characters. I struggle so hard to understand how these people are friends, let alone choose to keep interacting with one another outside of a mystery case that forces them to talk. Other series have wonderfully explored who the gang are outside of just cases, and how they overcome personal conflicts (even Mystery Incorporated succeeded in this to a degree!). I love how the 2000's live action movies build up and then get everyone to admit they genuinely miss each other when they're not there. Velma's writing across both 'seasons' seems more interested in thumbing its nose at its parent franchise to a degree of unironic distain, rather than a sincere reflection, critique, or expansion, and that bleeds over into how the characters are written. I hope the next Scooby properties take a step back from having the gang being so vitriolic to each other.
Poor Glen Howerton too.
"The killer was just really short..." Oh no, oh they didn't, oh goddamnit
I would 100% watch a justice for scrappy video. The CN reruns of scooby the later episodes were always a treat for me as a kid. I actually liked 13 ghosts. Though the new characters and different designs were a little challenging for me to acclimate to
Don't you just get tired of "American adult animation = raunchy, politically incorrect sitcom that runs its mouth off about everything"?
I'm not sure why they still make this, warner bros is allergic to money I forgot actually
Yes. This is why I'll always argue that shows like Gumball and SpongeBob are actually more adult than something like Family Guy.
Then theres helluva boss which draws you in with the swearing and violence and then it breaks your heart with emotional falcon punches
And has a musical number in every episode
And people wonder why anime kills American animation in the popularity. It has genres! We get like one Invincible a decade out of American animation!
I think despite stuff like the Simpsons animation is still seen as being most for kids so the "adult" shows try and be kid unfriendly.
The end result is usually quite immature, it's like a young teens idea of what mature is, all swearing and mentioning sex with no actual depth.
The end result is many "children's" shows are actually far more intelligent and deal with more mature themes.
Scrappy's design(at least when "wild/berserk") reminds me mobile game ads.
Like. I can almost see the red and green buttons that read "PET +1 companion" "KILL +9000 EXP"
Wasn’t the whole reason why Scooby Doo himself is not in the show is because he’s a talking dog? If that’s the case… then why the hail is Scrappy in it?
"13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo was a bit of a miss for me."
It's kinda hard to finish a series when one of your voice actors dies, especially when the character is based on the actor, & therefore cannot be replaced.
"Tune in now to learn that it's- both." 😂
I couldn’t agree more with Peter Griffin in regards with Velma, it insists upon itself.
Never understood the Scrappy hate.
In Brazil Scrappy doo (Scooby loo here) is loved. The voice actor of Scrappy is now doing the Scooby voice. I think here we were not over exposed as in USA and the Brazilian voice is not anoying it is like the Scooby voice but as a puppy. The admiration of Scrappy for Scooby could bring good stories. Hope one day Warner realizes it. I hated to see Scrappy as a villain in the first movie. This is one of the motives that I find the second movie better.
You absolutely should do a history of Scrappy-Doo and his backstory video. It sounds like a good idea.
i just learned ur agender… i’ve watched for so long don’t know how i didn’t know that, but cool me too!
I'm not proud to share this, but I do think it's an important counterpoint: my father was drafted to go to Vietnam and he was very angry with the government about it, but he did, of his own choice, do violence to at least one anti-war protester during military leave. They absolutely would have been able to find plenty of conservative a-holes like my dad for this brain switch plan.
At this point, having Scrappy be evil is just the laziest plot twist they could think of. It's been done. You're not clever, Velma writers. I'm not a Scrappy Doo Apologist, but even I'm craving justice for the poor pup being abused for so long.
"Jump scared me outta bed" is a description Im gonna hold onto for a while.
Thank you for actually mentioning the protestes I'm your video. It's making me crazy how we are over 7 months into this and most of RUclips are still pretending it's not happening.
(Spoiler warning for Peele's flick Get Out)
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Around 28:10 you mention the brain swapping element as possibly being a rip off from the body swapping in the first scooby doo movie. My intuition is that the brain swapping element is either an intentional or unintentional rip off from Peele's Get Out though due to the tone, genre, aesthetic and political leaning of Velma. I do think Scrappy being the villain is an intentional rip off from the live action scooby doo.
I think it's disgusting appropriation to take someone else's story and make it awful, alienating the people who made it, enjoyed it, and made it profitable. This show is gross.
hot take: race changes should be judged on a _case by case_ basis. Marvel Studios changes races all the time; but it's good because they found the best casting for the role, and that just happened to involve a race change. Velma, on the other hand, changed character races because they claimed the cast "related" to the original characters; except that was an utter lie because none of the characters behave like they are supposed to.
Well, at least the trash fire is finally ov....oh no, did they do a cliffhanger ending?
I’m utterly amazed by the cultural Scrappy Doo hatred. I was infected as well and for the life of me I can barely remember why.
Maybe it was the absence of favourite characters in his seasons, or his penchant for causing issues, or his annoying voice.
Still I’d love to hear more about Scrappy and his positive impacts, maybe a deep dive into what happened to make everyone turn on him.
This show what feels like what happens when the head writers/showrunners have never watched a scooby doo show but wanted a recognizable ip to bandwangon off of and some script editor or someone not leading the team had to add bits and pieces of refrences of scooby doo to try and make it even mildly based on the source material.
You slowly disappearing behind Emily's shoulder like a lunar eclipse cracked me up. Even the unintentional jokes in this video are funnier than an entire season of Velma.
Just raising my hand to say I'd like to see that scrappy doo video. Kinda surprised you've not made one already.
Because yeah, I remember watching the liva action movie for the first time and when he's revealed as the villain thinking "Oh we're meant to think that scrappy annoying? Are we all meant to hate scrappy?...he's....fine?"
Has anyone seen Mystery Skulls? Their Music Videos are parodies of Scooby Doo, and they also have a long running story about their "Shaggy" being haunted by the ghost of "Fred" after "Shaggy" killed him. Now, there are clear differences, but having seen things from Velma 2, I am almost positive that someone on the writing staff saw these music videos and took inspiration. Which also feels like it was inspired from Venture Brothers, when we find out that Scooby Doo parody had "Shaggy" kill previous clones of Hank and Dean. It is really, really weird and coincidental that the character that is haunted by a death of another character that they were responsible for is "Shaggy", multiple times.
absolutely no one on earth could come out of watching venture bros and still be as unfunny as the writers of velma my dude.
The second you said "the killer was super short" I knew it could only be scrappy
I love the new lighting
I liked the part where she said its "Velmin' time" and started Velmin in the amazon with my mom, when she was researchint Scoobies, right before she died.
So did they take the criticism and try to make it better? Actually be smart or funny? Or did they double down?
They doubled down.
I heard that there was only one season made by the team and WB split it into 2.
The show was picked up for 20 episodes from the jump. There was no time to "take feedback" since S2 was already in production.
@@GarLogan78 lord. And they drop all the episodes at once? Man, this model of production really leaves no room for improvement
@@katherinealvarez9216 I mean, the people who approved the project were probably hoping for something good. Just for whatever reason, the writers, producers, Mindy, etc really just opted to fart their way through it. I would be so interested in a behind the scenes for this show.
@@lyndsaybrown8471 me too, I always like watching those making of or BTS features and even though those are all polished, they're cool to see and learn how a film or show is made
The short answer is, No. Not even adding Scrappy made it any better.
meh, i personally don't think racebending is that interesting, at least not on its own. You have to do a lot of work to make it interesting and I don't believe Velma did so at all. And because it matters apparently, I'm latina so folks are aware.
I feel like we should stop giving beloved franchises to people who obviously hate them as a concept. The team behind this has said openly they think scooby doo is stupid.
27:02
Scrappy was the first time I realise that cartoons I like could make bad decisions when my uncle said he didn't like him. I kind of just accepted his existence when I was younger cuz As far as I knew pretty much been a part of the show. I'd be interested in a video talking Him
Thank you for biting the bullet and watching this for us.
Dammit, Scott, stop packing your videos with so many delicious puns (cover Scooby Doo? A masterpiece), my lungs and sides are starting to hurt watching these.
Edit: Yay, Emily and a kitty! I love this video even more.
im not just a goblin, i'm a space alien goblin from the andromeda galaxy, here to plant my evidence about how velma is secretly hiding references to vimanas. this has been a comment for engagement metrics, love your stuff scott
I'm part hobbit part hoka, part human. I'm the result of a genetics experiment gone wrong. I don't mind some tech, but I like it old school by 2024 standards. I like things cuddly and goofy and unpredictable. But I've also got morals. Ok, I'm not really a mistake. But I am on the early leading edge of what's called Generation x. I was born in 1968 , 1 year before o g. Scooby Doo and o.g. sesame Street started. I don't like haters messing with them.
The brains are alive so Ms. Jones didn't kill them. Just manslaughter, womanslaughter if this show said it.
I thought I was joking when I guessed Scrappy Doo.
YOU’RE AGENDER?!?! YOOOOOOOOO I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE
I genuinely had no idea and I’ve been popping in to watch the occasional video of yours for years now!
"crazy ex girlfriend" made the "protagonist goes into annoying feminist rants" waaay much better.
It's not like "person uses leftist/therapy vocabulary to deflect from criticism" doesn't exist. That's something we should make fun more often.
I think the lesson with this show getting a second season is that if something isn’t your cup of tea and you know you’re not going to like it, just don’t watch it. Don’t do what some critics do and “hate watch” something, because whether people like it or not, the views speak for themselves to the studio heads. They will green light anything that sells and makes them money. And in this case, the more views this show gets, the more money they make. Be apart of the solution, not the problem.
I agree with the general sentiment of not hate watching, but animated properties tend to be greenlit for 2 seasons anyway, since animation takes time, and the team needs to be pretty far ahead to stay ahead of airdates without delays.
The thing with critics is is that they make money off of being critics. It's not a hobby, that era of the internet is dead. It's pure profit motive. Hatewatching is required to make money-generating content.
I, at the very least, would love a scrappy doo defense video! Please make one! I love your work and I doubt I am alone on this!
I’m going to give the brown on rice joke a pass. As a POC child, I was horrified to find out that the natural color of rice was brown and that it was processed and bleached to get that white minute round rice. My friends and I immediately switched to from saying “white on rice” to “brown on rice,” It’s something people in my culture still say. So, I can’t get too mad about that joke in particular.
Bleached? Lmao, is that some american thing? 🤦♂
In Japan, there are little stations all across the country that remove the husks and polish the grains, no bleaching whatsoever.
@@asianbeowulf4276 no, it's not bleached in America lol
No, rice natural colour is not brown, the husk of the rice is brown but you remove that before eating. Also there exist different kinds of rice with different colours.
Wait wait wait wait wait hold up. So this scientist in season one finds a way to keep peoples' brains alive outside of their bodies so they can be transferred and so Fred's mom murders a bunch of girls to get their brains to be potential transplant subjects for Fred and ... then what? Does she expect they'll just ACCEPT this new identity? And does she actually succeed in keeping them alive? Are they STILL ALIVE at the end of the season? OH GOD THAT'S HORRIFYING.
Thank you for going through all that so that I don't have to feel like maybe I should go back and watch it to see if the rest was as bad as the first two.
Infinity Train. Owl House. Inside Job. So many cartoons that needed and deserved more time.
But we get season 2 of Velma.
what the..how did..why would they...huh?!
Let there NOT be Season 3 😰😲
The ring callback 😆 I was fully expecting a clip from the last video to be cut in
It's amazing that you managed to wade through two seasons and still manage to find the positive despite the pain of watching it. Also, kudos on the Daphne green & purple!
Now to dig through the back catalogue for your take on Mystery Inc.
So far this is the second time I've heard any talk about this season of Velma, the first time I heard about it was from your short, so I think we can all say there will not be a season 3, it's almost as if people don't have the patience to hate watch many seasons of a show. Perhaps trying to attract an audience through animosity is not very sustainable??
Also it's way more likely the show was initially contracted for 2 seasons than it was hate watched so hard it got a season 2
@@metaforth It's two half-series, from what I understand.
I’m addicted to watching Velma reviews. I think it’s like finding that friend that also doesn’t like chocolate.
You heard them. Don't be a little goblin.
Be a BIG goblin. An oversized goblin! A galactic goblin!!1!1!!11!!!
It's what the people demand.
Any version of the Mystery Inc gang in which they aren't just four ppl in a polycule w/ a dog is incorrect.