I've developed a really powerful loathing for people in funding videos pretending to be designing things. The "meeting room" shot, the "looking at drawings" shot, the "pretending to be an engineer" shot, the "contemplating a mockup while looking thoughtful" shot. I hate them all.
This is still a plague of bullshit. Show yourself drawing the design, and then show go to someone that can do something with it. Easy. Every kid has ideas, show that you've got more than nothing more.
Before developing / purchasing VR Sensory immersion devices it's important to take a step back and ask yourself these questions: Do I really need to know what anything in Half Life Alyx smells like? Do I really need to know what anything in Doom VFR feels like? Do I really need to know what anything in RE7 feels or smells like?
I just completed RE7 for the first time in PSVR and let me tell you, the last thing I want is to smell or physically feel anything in that game. Survival horror does not need to become pure sensory horror.
There's actually a lot of research going in to the field of virtual smells, and it is kinda possible today. Smells would make virtual experiences more immersive, but does seem a bit redundant for gaming and to me a bit pointless in general. The eventual goal though is to be able to eg sample fragrances online, or be able take in the smells of your virtual holidays. Quite dystopian imo.
That is a dramatic understatement of whatever the hell happened in the last minutes of this video. I'm not sure sharp turn adequately captures whatever the hell that was. That was a steep dive into a dark abyss.
Just taking a wild guess here, but I'd say the lip-sync lady was probably a foreigner hired to be a pretty face and someone else entirely was dubbed over her.
Gosh! I am disappointed in Jamie. His wife was my 9th grade science teacher some of the experiments done in Myth Busters were done in my high school - I graduated a couple of years after Mythbusters became a thing.
Okay the VR stuff makes a little sense but the smelling your video games no no no no no no you how many sewer levels are in video games I'd rather not smell it
What's wierd is that anyone would give them money since none of the VR smell devices could work with out games supporting it, and even then it's bullshit that wouldn't work.
Fun fact, Eric from Tim and Eric I'm pretty sure made it into a series of commercials for the original oculus quest. He played reality (who got worried over his point in life because the Quest exists). I made a playlist of all those commercials on RUclips if you're interested.
I'm convinced that last guy is the greatest satirist of our time, making fun of people who shill shit on Kickstater. I have to believe that, because I can't live in a world where somebody seriously thought either of those would entice people to give him money
OMG! I can't believe Jaime Hyneman actually made that campaign! The funny part is it appears most people who discovered that believe he is being used as a figurehead and is not actually involved in making the shoes.
Ya but that company made some stupid fucking choices like putting their app on pc first before Smartphones when the studies showed that low income families the people they where going after had easier access to smart devices then computers
The upgrade I'd want to see to VR is convincing my ears that I'm moving to match the visuals and, in theory, preventing the nausea caused by the mixed messages 🤔😆
I have basically given up on Kickstarter. I have backed about seven things on there that I thought had potential. Only two of them ever made it to the distribution point, only one was actually successful and made a new company, and five of them just took my money and either failed to use their funds properly and failed, or just took the money and ran. It's basically a platform where people who don't feel like saving and properly investing funds go to beg.
17:16 Well I found this funny as fudge mate. It was slightly awkward to begin, I agree, however the idea of gingers absorbing souls and collecting them in their freckles, is genius. In other words it clearly a joke piece.
I play "Vicera Clean up Detail". Great for VR! But the last thing I want is to be able to feel or smell anything from any of those places. Motion sickness is bad enough as it is.
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of paywalling videos and teasing them off like that, no matter how controversial they seem to RUclips's algorithm. There's got to be better ways to monetize stuff like that...
I remember an old Kickstarter for something called a Turris. Which was a small stool seat. For Virtual Reality games. Which require you to be standing up and moving.
The UnlimitedHand seems like one of those things that's an awkward first step towards an actually-well-functioning technology. Sort of like the Virtual Boy which, with all its problems, *did* eventually pave the way for modern VR headsets, and as a bonus was the first controller to have the kind of dual movement that became industry-standard with the DualShock three years later. ...and that unicorn *_thing_* seems like it would be some kind of in-universe product in South Park.
4D stuff is cool tbh. We have arcade machines here that move around, blow air on you when you're moving fast in the game, vibrate when you shoot/get shot, things like that - I do wish they'd do the smell stuff but I can't imagine how it would work very well.
I actually own one of the Whirlwind Vortx. It works great in some games. Fps with lots of explosions and fire is pretty epic. My favorite game to use it with is Far Cry 5. The fan is actually pretty powerful, but noisy, so headphones are a must. Driving in a car feels like the wind is blowing through your window and anytime you are near things on fire or explosions it is pretty immersive, in my opinion.
That stare-off guy, when I saw his trailer for the thing I was laughing on how stupid he was looking like with those words and long delays. Had a laugh, but in short bursts. That awful campaign trailer song though I had to take off my headphones due to it being so bad.
You saw that too!?!?! Oh thank GOD! I thought I got a fatal brain injury I somehow didn't feel and thought that was the last thing I experienced as my mind melting before I keeled over and died.
I just shown the last part to my ginger friend and now he can't stop staring at me wi th a weird look like I'm about to get revenged on I absolutely love this channel🐺♥️♾
I like how Daniel just talks smack to us and about everything possible in all his videos from start to finish lol. Like, "these things suck, you suck, everything sucks."
The ginger stare off for your soul> betting your soul against a fiddle made of gold. Also, I genuinely thought you were having a laugh with the end there, it sounded like a joke skit from like KND, Brickleberry, etc (any cartoon with high pitched joke ads)
I am hearing impaired and read lips...and you’re right, that woman is all over the place. Very weird. On that note, thanks for the good captions on your videos that make it easier for people like me to enjoy them!
why do so many people are obsessed with adding smell to games?! people make fun of every game having Swewer levels for a reason! wait, was the last guy just making a racist Kickstarter?
I haven't seen an episode of Ren & Stimpy, but I believe the Rainbow Unicorn Nipples would fit into that world; after all, I know the duo themselves went around selling rubber nipples one time, and weird products such as Cans Without Labels exist.
on the multisensory vr mask. There might be a kernel of believability to the FDA claim. Recently NPR did a story about how some at home CV-19 test makers are having a bitch of a time getting approval (completely legit company, not crowd source or anything) because of how archaic the FDA approval system is. Basically FDA breaks things down into multiple tiers and don't bother to tell you what your device might fall into. On top of that each tier has it's own standards for efficacy or viability that have to be proven for approval. In the case of the home test guys, they admitted it as a gadget since it didn't need as high a bar since it's meant to be a benchmark of if should you see a doctor. FDA turned around and denied them saying it's in the wrong category. So they resubmitted as a tool which has a higher standard as it needs to be able to give definitive results. I heard they didn't get approval again because wrong category as it isn't accurate enough for a medical tool. They're trying again but i don't know what class they went for now.
Honestly so glad we have legitimate tech companies throwing millions into the VR industry so we don't have to look to startup companies to bring us the future anymore. Remember when oculus was just a random kickstarter company with a decent VR demo? Seems like an eon ago now that we have a Rift S with room tracking and touch controllers on the market.
The track of the mythbusters hosts is odd to see. While Adam is still insanely popular, running Tested, making lots of youtube videos, and interacting with fans, Jamie has...not. Dude went TOTAL private sector, last I heard of him before this was him making tech for military usage. Rather sad to see in my opinion.
On one hand the way you're talking.about VR as if it's a trend that died a few years ago.in the intro makes me think this cant have been written after HLA. On the other hand, this video is probably only released because VR is such a hot topic now.
Yeah... the whole smelling the game thing, these people clearly have no idea how bad games like Resident Evil would smell, I mean, a zombie-infested locale wouldn't exactly smell like a bed of roses now, would it?
A lot of the Mythbusters people went on to do some cringeworthy things. When the show was still on the air, the "build team" appeared in commercials for Volkswagen diesel cars where they touted how environmentally friendly the cars were. Shortly after these commercials aired was the Volkswagen emissions scandal. Grant Imahara appeared in a McDonald's commercial "busting" the myth that their food was bad for you. Adam Savage has appeared with scam artist Anita Sarkeesian endorsing her idiocy.
Crowdfunding sites are a lot like Alibaba in a way - it's OK as long as you only spend the kind of money you don't really regret losing, on stuff you don't really mind never getting... And if it still does... and even in due time, then you're pleasantly surprised ;)
These things seem like the 20th century versions of the crap like X-Ray glasses, Sea Monkeys and Count Dante Dim Mak martial arts books you'd see advertised in comic books back in the 70's.
I've developed a really powerful loathing for people in funding videos pretending to be designing things. The "meeting room" shot, the "looking at drawings" shot, the "pretending to be an engineer" shot, the "contemplating a mockup while looking thoughtful" shot. I hate them all.
"Pretending to be a superstar engineer "
@@Lucy_Ford Aye
This is still a plague of bullshit. Show yourself drawing the design, and then show go to someone that can do something with it. Easy. Every kid has ideas, show that you've got more than nothing more.
"It might work, it might not"
CROWDFUND BUSTED
Before developing / purchasing VR Sensory immersion devices it's important to take a step back and ask yourself these questions:
Do I really need to know what anything in Half Life Alyx smells like?
Do I really need to know what anything in Doom VFR feels like?
Do I really need to know what anything in RE7 feels or smells like?
absolutely.
I just completed RE7 for the first time in PSVR and let me tell you, the last thing I want is to smell or physically feel anything in that game. Survival horror does not need to become pure sensory horror.
_Including_ the insect bits, or _especially_ the insect bits?
There's actually a lot of research going in to the field of virtual smells, and it is kinda possible today.
Smells would make virtual experiences more immersive, but does seem a bit redundant for gaming and to me a bit pointless in general.
The eventual goal though is to be able to eg sample fragrances online, or be able take in the smells of your virtual holidays. Quite dystopian imo.
Honestly I think being able to smell stuff in VR would open up a whole new kind of horror game.
This video took a pretty sharp turn to wierd town...
*stares at you*
I'm not sure if I just had a really good day, or a really, REALLY bad day.
That is a dramatic understatement of whatever the hell happened in the last minutes of this video. I'm not sure sharp turn adequately captures whatever the hell that was. That was a steep dive into a dark abyss.
I can't tell if the Jaimie entry makes me sad or if I am just happy to see him again.
Edit: the Stare Off video makes me want to die.
I didn't think I'd be seeing him going full "Damnit, grandad!" today.
I can tell you that seeing Jamie like this makes me cry inside.
Wait for the unicorn video...
It made me realize Mythbusters needs Adam Savage's showmanship to work. He could actually sell me on stupid VR roller skates!
Yeah...I saw it. Some things cannot be unseen...or unheard. That jingle will follow me in my nightmares lol.
Just taking a wild guess here, but I'd say the lip-sync lady was probably a foreigner hired to be a pretty face and someone else entirely was dubbed over her.
Yeah, most likely ADR
That’s exactly what’s going on here. They’ve gone for a pretty face and a pleasing voice combo; just not from the same lady.
It gave me PGS vibes, any time I see kickstarters with bad lip sync I think Russia now.
Exactly! 👍
I definitely heard that voice before
Gosh! I am disappointed in Jamie. His wife was my 9th grade science teacher some of the experiments done in Myth Busters were done in my high school - I graduated a couple of years after Mythbusters became a thing.
The Stare Off one actually made me laugh. It’s just so ridiculous that I couldn’t help it.
It's weird since I had a dream with Jamie Heineman in it, albeit just as a subject in a magazine article.
Seeing that last kickstarter, I pulled my pillow head rest so that my head get it's medicinal dose of concussion to forget that video.
Those NS Glasses basically amount too strapping a switch screen too a pair of cheap binoculars.
Yep, quite literally
I was thinking the lens in it reminded me of Wide Gear magnifier for the Game Gear.
I actually tried the mask thing at GDC back in the day. It sprayed you with water, heated your face, and blasted smells at you. I hated it.
Somehow, that last one physically hurt to watch...
I feel that the most immersive VR experience could just end up being an Iron Man suit.
So instead walking into walls, you will just crash through them...lol
l went and looked at the update for the last kickstarter.....
WOW
RAINBOWS!!!!
Obviously I looked too..
🌈🌈
Same. Its not gingers staring into my soul that I'm worried about..
I couldn't help it.😱
Okay the VR stuff makes a little sense but the smelling your video games no no no no no no you how many sewer levels are in video games I'd rather not smell it
Seriously. That is one sense I am perfectly fine not experiencing when playing a video game. Imagine smelling a Souls or Doom game.
@@doctabaldhead
Who knows the smell of blood might be for the shark people.
What's wierd is that anyone would give them money since none of the VR smell devices could work with out games supporting it, and even then it's bullshit that wouldn't work.
@@vivisect53 because you say so, right? lmao.
What an ending. 10 out of 10 unicorns enjoyed it.
That last section is really just Tim & Eric trolling us
I must have missed the part where you had to remove your teeth in order for the unicorn nipples to work.
No, its British Eric Cartman.
Fun fact, Eric from Tim and Eric I'm pretty sure made it into a series of commercials for the original oculus quest. He played reality (who got worried over his point in life because the Quest exists). I made a playlist of all those commercials on RUclips if you're interested.
I'm like 3 years late but no, that skit was nothing like Tim and Eric's works...even their purposely weird shit has some substance 😊
I'm convinced that last guy is the greatest satirist of our time, making fun of people who shill shit on Kickstater.
I have to believe that, because I can't live in a world where somebody seriously thought either of those would entice people to give him money
"Usual mess of Kickstarter campai.... what the hell?"
That last video man. That last video
OMG! I can't believe Jaime Hyneman actually made that campaign! The funny part is it appears most people who discovered that believe he is being used as a figurehead and is not actually involved in making the shoes.
I think i had enough internet today, im going back to bed
6:54 The best part is that Nintendo even made their own, the Labo VR as seen on the eBay pages shown.
Is StareOff secretly a performance art piece by a British parodist, kinda like that MLP visual novel by Sam Hyde?
The lucky unicorn nipples makes me think it is a parody.
Oh come one, next you'll be telling us that Jonathan Pie isn't real...
I think so. I was laughing uncontrollably after the unicorn video. That guy is awesome!
@@7seatea7 Don't you shatter my faith in lucky unicorn nipples.
@@newguy371 you know he agrees with you lol
Dang it! Almost spitted my coffee all over kitchen table hahaha. That unicorn song was pure gold
No wonder Adam hated Jamie at the end of Mythbusters if this is the shit he wants to shill. Do love Jamie's split window bus though.
thats exactly what i thought lmao
The only Kickstarter I ever backed was the Reading Rainbow one
If these represent what else is out there, I feel I made the right decision
Ya but that company made some stupid fucking choices like putting their app on pc first before Smartphones when the studies showed that low income families the people they where going after had easier access to smart devices then computers
Schools and libraries had computers too, that might have been part of the reason.
I love how you're roasting that No Touch Key thing in the beginning of the video, but I literally just saw an instagram giveaway form one this morning
That Virtual Dolls "the chest you slap on the wall" is mouse pad with wrist rest....lol
They sell those all over, no wonder it wasn't funded.
"Are you scared?"
I have 911 on speed dial, yeah, I am.
The upgrade I'd want to see to VR is convincing my ears that I'm moving to match the visuals and, in theory, preventing the nausea caused by the mixed messages 🤔😆
I have basically given up on Kickstarter. I have backed about seven things on there that I thought had potential.
Only two of them ever made it to the distribution point, only one was actually successful and made a new company, and five of them just took my money and either failed to use their funds properly and failed, or just took the money and ran.
It's basically a platform where people who don't feel like saving and properly investing funds go to beg.
I only back 3d terrain models and bord games .... so far 22 backs and 22 fulfilled.
And I'm here waiting for a vr headset I can use with my glasses
Same
Not that I have money for a VR headset
Ha ha I feel that
Quest 2 can idk about quest 3
Thanks, I'm gonna have nightmares now, that last one and the staring. I'm scared someone like that exists.. :(
Hes real and hes not going away!!!!
The guy is real, but the videos are parodies. You weren't meant to take them seriously.
@@newguy371 that's what he wants you to believe
17:16 Well I found this funny as fudge mate. It was slightly awkward to begin, I agree, however the idea of gingers absorbing souls and collecting them in their freckles, is genius. In other words it clearly a joke piece.
I play "Vicera Clean up Detail". Great for VR! But the last thing I want is to be able to feel or smell anything from any of those places. Motion sickness is bad enough as it is.
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of paywalling videos and teasing them off like that, no matter how controversial they seem to RUclips's algorithm. There's got to be better ways to monetize stuff like that...
Vape mask. Brilliant. The one thing I've always felt like I need more of during VR is moist air on my face.
I remember an old Kickstarter for something called a Turris.
Which was a small stool seat.
For Virtual Reality games.
Which require you to be standing up and moving.
So like a standup coaster, the worst type of roller coaster.
The UnlimitedHand seems like one of those things that's an awkward first step towards an actually-well-functioning technology. Sort of like the Virtual Boy which, with all its problems, *did* eventually pave the way for modern VR headsets, and as a bonus was the first controller to have the kind of dual movement that became industry-standard with the DualShock three years later.
...and that unicorn *_thing_* seems like it would be some kind of in-universe product in South Park.
I don't know what the stare off guy is on but I want some because he's is hilarious.
Yes, yes. *waves dismissevly*
But what everybody wants to know: What about the Fish on Wheels Kickstarter? Did it got funded?
4D stuff is cool tbh. We have arcade machines here that move around, blow air on you when you're moving fast in the game, vibrate when you shoot/get shot, things like that - I do wish they'd do the smell stuff but I can't imagine how it would work very well.
They called it "Fish On Wheels" and not the very obvious "Fish Tank"?
I actually own one of the Whirlwind Vortx. It works great in some games.
Fps with lots of explosions and fire is pretty epic. My favorite game to use it with is Far Cry 5. The fan is actually pretty powerful, but noisy, so headphones are a must. Driving in a car feels like the wind is blowing through your window and anytime you are near things on fire or explosions it is pretty immersive, in my opinion.
Feel real really should have just sold and shipped everywhere but to the US and to then refund the people in the US
That stare-off guy, when I saw his trailer for the thing I was laughing on how stupid he was looking like with those words and long delays. Had a laugh, but in short bursts. That awful campaign trailer song though I had to take off my headphones due to it being so bad.
You saw that too!?!?! Oh thank GOD! I thought I got a fatal brain injury I somehow didn't feel and thought that was the last thing I experienced as my mind melting before I keeled over and died.
He forgot to mention the Nintendo Labo VR. That was Nintendo’s official VR thing
There is always some clips of the Ouya whenever talking about fails - just like a law of nature these days
I just shown the last part to my ginger friend and now he can't stop staring at me wi th a weird look like I'm about to get revenged on
I absolutely love this channel🐺♥️♾
I like how Daniel just talks smack to us and about everything possible in all his videos from start to finish lol. Like, "these things suck, you suck, everything sucks."
The Ultimate hand is literally just a TENS unit, and I really don't think you want to strap that to your arm voluntarily.
Hahahaha it literally is isnt it
The ginger stare off for your soul> betting your soul against a fiddle made of gold. Also, I genuinely thought you were having a laugh with the end there, it sounded like a joke skit from like KND, Brickleberry, etc (any cartoon with high pitched joke ads)
I am hearing impaired and read lips...and you’re right, that woman is all over the place. Very weird. On that note, thanks for the good captions on your videos that make it easier for people like me to enjoy them!
Me : One last video before I go to bed. It should be alright
Me later : I have made a grave mistake.
why do so many people are obsessed with adding smell to games?! people make fun of every game having Swewer levels for a reason!
wait, was the last guy just making a racist Kickstarter?
That last bit was just something else
Edit: Wow that was before the song at the end
I haven't seen an episode of Ren & Stimpy, but I believe the Rainbow Unicorn Nipples would fit into that world; after all, I know the duo themselves went around selling rubber nipples one time, and weird products such as Cans Without Labels exist.
Thank you for the ginger starer dude 😆😆😆😆😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!
Comic genius 😆😂🤣!!!
on the multisensory vr mask. There might be a kernel of believability to the FDA claim. Recently NPR did a story about how some at home CV-19 test makers are having a bitch of a time getting approval (completely legit company, not crowd source or anything) because of how archaic the FDA approval system is. Basically FDA breaks things down into multiple tiers and don't bother to tell you what your device might fall into. On top of that each tier has it's own standards for efficacy or viability that have to be proven for approval. In the case of the home test guys, they admitted it as a gadget since it didn't need as high a bar since it's meant to be a benchmark of if should you see a doctor. FDA turned around and denied them saying it's in the wrong category. So they resubmitted as a tool which has a higher standard as it needs to be able to give definitive results. I heard they didn't get approval again because wrong category as it isn't accurate enough for a medical tool. They're trying again but i don't know what class they went for now.
Honestly so glad we have legitimate tech companies throwing millions into the VR industry so we don't have to look to startup companies to bring us the future anymore. Remember when oculus was just a random kickstarter company with a decent VR demo? Seems like an eon ago now that we have a Rift S with room tracking and touch controllers on the market.
The Glyph Visor is interesting.
11:39- Captain Falcon LOL 😆
10:06 Freakzoid: Oy, let's watch the lip sink ok?
Great The Streets reference! Well played.
The track of the mythbusters hosts is odd to see. While Adam is still insanely popular, running Tested, making lots of youtube videos, and interacting with fans, Jamie has...not. Dude went TOTAL private sector, last I heard of him before this was him making tech for military usage. Rather sad to see in my opinion.
Personally, Im just going to wait until i can plug my brain directly into the matrix. That way i can "Know Kung Fu."
Woah
lets join together to beat the gingers and take back our souls!!! omg..... that is soooo funny
Have to do a little correction, at 15:05 that's not IKEA furniture...
Who cares?
That unicorn one made me cry and not in a good way.
On one hand the way you're talking.about VR as if it's a trend that died a few years ago.in the intro makes me think this cant have been written after HLA.
On the other hand, this video is probably only released because VR is such a hot topic now.
VR is still a bit of a niche product
A good tip for the switch, if U have a PS4, just get a psVR, and plug in the switch through HDMI.
I can feel it. That Ruxton guy wants data for facial recognition shenanigans. Also Jamie, you wonderful walrus man, that was cringe.
[4:34 - 5:29] OOF! My back and neck hurt like crazy just by watching those videos!!
Wouldn't the "FeelReal" mask fog up the lenses? Like... immediately?
If not, it would, if it worked like vapes, leave a sticky film all over the insides of them over time and just piss people off
Opening with Jamie made me fucking gasp. Haven’t even heard about him since Mythbusters ended.
LOL! That last guy deserves backing! :D
The Unicorn one sounds like a fun candy from Spencer's.
I've never been sexually assaulted before but that unicorn nipple song is without a doubt the closest i'll get without the actual experience
Yeah... the whole smelling the game thing, these people clearly have no idea how bad games like Resident Evil would smell, I mean, a zombie-infested locale wouldn't exactly smell like a bed of roses now, would it?
9:48 gives me the DEFINITE vibes of the Smach Z kickstarter videos.
So who went right away to look up the latest update for the unicorn nippels?
Imagine the wife's face when she sees the search history.
Scratch that. imagine anyone's face who sees the search history.
That last one just gets cursed by the second
A lot of the Mythbusters people went on to do some cringeworthy things. When the show was still on the air, the "build team" appeared in commercials for Volkswagen diesel cars where they touted how environmentally friendly the cars were. Shortly after these commercials aired was the Volkswagen emissions scandal.
Grant Imahara appeared in a McDonald's commercial "busting" the myth that their food was bad for you.
Adam Savage has appeared with scam artist Anita Sarkeesian endorsing her idiocy.
That had to be the worst I would hear the whole year.
This man has some of the longest intros ive ever seen
Crowdfunding sites are a lot like Alibaba in a way - it's OK as long as you only spend the kind of money you don't really regret losing, on stuff you don't really mind never getting... And if it still does... and even in due time, then you're pleasantly surprised ;)
These things seem like the 20th century versions of the crap like X-Ray glasses, Sea Monkeys and Count Dante Dim Mak martial arts books you'd see advertised in comic books back in the 70's.
Lucky unicorn nipples? Seriously? Well that killed what little faith in humanity I had left.
Completely forgets about the gamevisor who lied about having old people from commodore and ran off with all the money.
Stare off game feels like a Peter Molyneux project
...I will never be okay after that last guy.
as far as neural interfaces - Facebook acquired a similar tech firm last year. look up CTRL-labs.
Nice velocity sticker, i love that game!
The UnlimitedHand looks like something Michael Reeves would make to torture his buddies.
9:05 already mostly exists as the ambX system that supported far cry 2 and that was about it.
I think that last guy might secretly be a comedic genius.....
9:26 I hope I'm not the only yank that got that reference! 😂
Surf Wisely.
Classic Jamie.
those 3d goggles remind me of this terrible thing ashens reviewed once which gave him a headache
That stare off vid...*shudder*