Yes, there's been a popular one recently that everyone has been talking about. If you look into the description of my video you will be able to see a reference to both papers.
So I don’t quite understand the study there’s a lot of questions so did both dogs ecollars and just reward base know the recall and sit ? Also, was this done in sterile environments with no distractions?
All dogs wore e-collars but they were deactivated for control group 1 and control group 2. They were active and working for e-collar group. All of them had successful recall and sit, but reward based had it with less cues and lower latency. The training sessions were outdoors but we do not get detailed information about distractions. For more info, I recommend checking out the article reference in the description of the video.
Well, thanks for getting back, but I really need to know if there were any distractions because most dogs would come and sit when there’s no distractions I think the other study was done with dogs at Chase things and don’t come back and that study proved that the ears worked, but that was only on dogs that Chase livestockI believe did you read that study?
@@watchmoivies123 that study basically proved that e-collars are effective at stopping behaviour in a specific context - they were not really used to teach/build a new behaviour, unlike the study referenced in this video. The dogs simply learned that chasing the lure, in that field, would result in pain (when tested in a new location, 33% of the dogs in the ecollar group did chase the lure, showing that the training had not carried over to a new context). In that study, the best practices mentioned in the video as having been laid out by the ECMA were also not followed (shock intensity was not tailored to the individual dog's sensitivity, all dogs received shocks with the same intensity of 6 on a 1 to 10 scale). It's been widely debated, and I've seen not only force free trainers claiming the methodology was wrong, but even balanced/ecollar trainers saying the same thing. Karolina Westlund from Illis Behaviour Consulting wrote a detailed blog post about that study and its weaknesses, if you want to dig deeper.
I took the time to point out several limitations of the study and to acknowledge my own biases and the way I see dog training and behaviour modification. What other limitations do you see in the study and what are your biases?
Science - THANK YOU for all your great videos!
My absolute pleasure Debbie. 😊
SCIENCE. It's great to have my confirmation bias confirmed by scientific methods 😉😉
Indeed it is. Thank you for your comment. 👍
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Nicely analysed - and acknowledging your (and my) bias.
Indeed, it is important to acknowledge our biases. Thanks for watching. 👍
Top content! Excellent presentation and off the chart ethics value! Science 4ever! 😆
Amazing comment. Thanks Tiago. 🙏
Science. Thanka, Jose, for your well thought out and documented content. From another force-free, positive reinforcement trainer.
Thank you so much for watching and for your nice feedback. 😊
Amazing content as always! “Science”
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Always enjoy your content. Science.
Thank you for your kind words. I put a lot of time and effort into it. 🙏
We need more well designed studies... For *science*
We absolutely do. Thank you. 🙏
Science! I really appreciate your work.
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Excellent, as always! SCIENCE
Thank you Kim. Glad you found it excellent. 😊
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I just watched or saw. I can’t remember another study with the collars and dogs that chased.
Yes, there's been a popular one recently that everyone has been talking about. If you look into the description of my video you will be able to see a reference to both papers.
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So I don’t quite understand the study there’s a lot of questions so did both dogs ecollars and just reward base know the recall and sit ?
Also, was this done in sterile environments with no distractions?
All dogs wore e-collars but they were deactivated for control group 1 and control group 2. They were active and working for e-collar group. All of them had successful recall and sit, but reward based had it with less cues and lower latency. The training sessions were outdoors but we do not get detailed information about distractions. For more info, I recommend checking out the article reference in the description of the video.
Well, thanks for getting back, but I really need to know if there were any distractions because most dogs would come and sit when there’s no distractions I think the other study was done with dogs at Chase things and don’t come back and that study proved that the ears worked, but that was only on dogs that Chase livestockI believe did you read that study?
@@watchmoivies123 that study basically proved that e-collars are effective at stopping behaviour in a specific context - they were not really used to teach/build a new behaviour, unlike the study referenced in this video. The dogs simply learned that chasing the lure, in that field, would result in pain (when tested in a new location, 33% of the dogs in the ecollar group did chase the lure, showing that the training had not carried over to a new context). In that study, the best practices mentioned in the video as having been laid out by the ECMA were also not followed (shock intensity was not tailored to the individual dog's sensitivity, all dogs received shocks with the same intensity of 6 on a 1 to 10 scale). It's been widely debated, and I've seen not only force free trainers claiming the methodology was wrong, but even balanced/ecollar trainers saying the same thing.
Karolina Westlund from Illis Behaviour Consulting wrote a detailed blog post about that study and its weaknesses, if you want to dig deeper.
That study was full of holes that you of course didn't point out
I took the time to point out several limitations of the study and to acknowledge my own biases and the way I see dog training and behaviour modification. What other limitations do you see in the study and what are your biases?
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@@TrainMePlease My pleasure! Thank you for awesome content as always 💗
Science plays no part in dog training IB 😂
It certainly should. Especially the scientific consensus. We need to be open to but careful with outliers.
@@TrainMePlease it was a tongue in cheek comparison, the utter shambles of CW/IB “study” on the efficacy of shock collars and predation