Denver Nuggets win 2023 NBA Finals, Nikola Jokić awarded NBA Finals MVP | NBA | FIRST THINGS FIRST
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2023
- Nick Wright, Chris Broussard and Kevin Wildes discuss the Denver Nuggets wining the 2023 NBA Finals after defeating the Miami Heat in Game 5. Nikola Jokić becomes the first player to lead the playoffs in total points, rebounds and assist en route to earning his first NBA Finals MVP award.
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No center/pf should be compared to the other positions
That show is terrible, Please cancel the cartoon show.
The Basketball Gods are fickle. They have cast a shadow over Nick Wright and smiled on Chris Broussard.
The Curse is lifted.
In the last 50 years, Total Achievements: (Titles / MVPs / Finals MVPs / 1st All-NBA / 1st All-DEF / Scoring Titles)
1st: Jordan = 46
2nd: Kareem = 31
2nd: LeBron = 31
4th: Kobe = 30
5th: Duncan = 28
*Jokic only has a total of 7...that's just to put things into perspective. In other words, he has a very long way to go before he catches someone like Kareem or Duncan and most likely won't even come close to them.
15:00 Dan Marino (to brew’s point)
Wildes and Broussard opening the show looking like the Blues Brothers made this clip a winner off the bat!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Frfr 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😎😎
Yeah that was gold 🤣🤣🤣
Brou didn't earn the glasses, though... Bylaw pick swaps shouldn't get glasses. Wiles got it on the money, back in Nov.
@@AmateurAnalyst013Nick had Sixers winning the east beating Bucks in the Conference Finals 😂 if Heat won you’d be slobbering on Nick.
@@marianoortega6725tell'em. Only dude who had Denver, unwavering the entire time was Barkley
“Jokic is the worst MVP in the last 30 years”
“History will judge me favorably”
Nick Wrong eating his words today
Hindsight is 2020
Nick the Ratface should apologize
@@Asap750 anyone that watched Jokic over the years knows that take was absolute garbage even at the time
And he owed it. No one is 100% righted at least he can admit when he was wrong
@@danielcastruita51 Where has he owned it? All his "humble" moments are full of caveats or he downplays what he originally said. He's entertaining but has become really grating or maybe I just didn't see it until recently.
Not a bad postseason run for the “worst MVP in 35 years” or whatever Nick said 😂
Not sure, if Nick said 35 years somewhere. But, this is one thing I know he did say:
"If Nikola Jokic wins the MVP, he's the worst player to win the MVP since Dave Cowens."
Nick said this in 2021, right before Jokic was crowned MVP the first time. Dave Cowens won MVP in 1973, so that's 48 years.
@@penkima4923 And Covens winning over Kareem was the biggest MVP robbery in NBA history so what a wild comparison
@@rachelkessinger2295Cowens arguably wasn’t even the best player on his team.
Durant isn't ahead of Jokic, he wouldn't even have a title without joining a 73-9 team.
He literally has more everything besides mvp which jokic only has 1 more
@@justinholland6132 He has 0 championships as the bus driver.
I wouldn't put KD over Kawhi either.
@@JarrettMehldau just shut up
@@JarrettMehldaubro what? KD a top 15 player OAT, and he is definitely above joker coming from a lifelong denver fan
It feels good being a Nuggets and Jokic fan, and Nick makes it sweeter!
wildes and brou look badass in the shades and suits too
enjoy it while you can because football isstarting and Mahomes is ready
@@Hey_Its_Dom2818 I live in Kansas but denver is the closest NBA team and I’m a former resident of the city during the legalization years lol I get the best of both worlds
@@Hey_Its_Dom2818 dont worry bout me, im not from Denver and dont care about the Broncos. I've been a fan of Jokic specifically since 2018, and my team is the Hornets so I needed someone to root for in the postseason lmao
yeah but when did u become a nugget fan
Guys, we must never let Nick forget, perhaps the worst Take in Take history: "Jokic might be the worst MVP in NBA history"
Comment that on every of his videos and tweets
nick wrong is clueless
To be fair, at the time it wasn't crazy.
@@jetsettech8804 yes it was absolutely insane even at that time
@@jetsettech8804 disagree
@@jetsettech8804😂😂😂😂😂😂
The switch up from Nick is crazy, saying Jokic was possibly the worst MVP in history is a far cry from what Giannis went through.
I agree with his statement. The past couple seasons it seems like players aren't interested in winning MVP. A lot of stars are either injured or players want to load manage. Jokic has no problem playing and his availability got him those awards.
@@mike.cdn7212 or he was actually the best player in the league and just didn’t have the cast around him
This is accurate. The statement above is not imo.
Look how bad embiid wanted mvp this season. Players definitely want mvp. It goes on their “wall of legacy awards” and such. A notch on their belt that can be talked about for the rest of their lives.
All he needed was another good player, as everyone including Lebron needs as well, and then he dominates the league in both the reg season and playoffs. So impressive.
Side note; ppl knock his D all the time as if he’s some liability like Steph. He’s a good defender. Smart and big.
@@matthewhill3996The thing is, did anyone say Giannis won his MVP because of his race? Did anyone say he is the worst MVP in 20 years? Did anyone say Giannis stat pads? It would be deserving to say that Jokic didnt deserve the MVP because someone had a better case, like with Embiid, I can see it and its fair, but it is not fair brining race into it like Perkins did
Bucks fan here Giannis was getting killed all the way up until he won a chip. Media was saying how he wasn't a number 1 and he was "robin" and needed a "batman" no one ever said that about Jok.
As a nuggets fan for 34 years and how beyond awful we use to be, this by far is incredible. I can’t stop being proud and celebrating. My dad died last year and I can now say dad they finally did it! The nuggets got one!
❤
Hike high salute
Bring your old man a hat or shirt
After everything that's happened this season, Brou has earned this much-needed victory lap!😂
He didn’t even pick the nuggets till the finals 😂
@@tysonmays6866just like with the Warriors last season lol he’ll do it again next year
He literally picked the nets
Well he Picked Brooklyn, Then the Warriors, Then the Lakers, So um “victory lap” is a bit of a stretch
you misspelled Wildes with Brou, Brou picked Nuggets at the finals yet he acts like he predicted this the moment Jokic was born
I really hope this show stays together and they don’t pluck either Nick or Chris to join undisputed. The chemistry between this group right now is perfect, The humor is natural,and the topic selection is on point. I also don’t think either could replace Shannon’s humor and would end up being worse off because they will always be looked at as his replacement.
Agreed
Neither Chris or Nick stand for Skip blatantly hating. I doubt they would want to work with him everyday
Give Skip Rob Parker, I would love to see that combo 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
@@rdogletree4543 bahahhaha they deserve each other.
Cant we just bring uncle Shae to this table too? That would be my dream.
Nick Wright "There are levels to it and Jokic is in the conversation for top 20" meanwhile last year and going into this year he had Luka top 20 all time while accomplishing nothing.
Nick Wrong is full of s...
Well luka was averaging the most point in the playoff ever. Was he right to put him that high, probably not. But he was not wrong im saying he wanted to see joker do it on the playoffs
@@danielcastruita51 I'm a huge Steph fan and Jokic put in work against the Warriors with less help than Luka and Ja in 2022. So Luka put up good stats but stats mean nothing without winning. I understand needing to see Jokic win but he didn't give the same courtesy to Luka. Now Jokic did win two MVPs and Luka hasn't but I'm not sure that's an indictment on Jokic as much as it is one on Luka. Jokic took the Nuggets to the conference finals in 2020 just as far as Luka. Now he's gone further and won it all.
@@winssports4830 all great points, while I do agree he definitely rated him to high to soon. My point was Nick was looking at playoffs performance. And now that joker has done it he says he is at 22 ( still a little low for me but that’s pers). What do they call him wilds….. Mr. Consistency
@@tulponatix I thought he were his large adult Slovenian son?
We went from "The worst MVP we've had in the last 35 years," to "He's an All-time great." Way to point out the obvious Nick, it's not like reality would've told you that by his standards his greatness would continue to rise. This championship just reinforces what's already known.
“With 2 MVPs, 1 title, 1 FMVP, and averaging a 30 pt triple-double in these playoffs, Jokic is now almost as good as Luka!” - Nick Wright, probably
😂lol and something something about Lebron nuts with some Steph hate sprinkled in lol
That’s disingenuous he said Jokic would be the best player in the league if he won this title. Still I wonder how Luka & Jokic would’ve done if they switched teams
@@OscarUnrated
"Still I wonder how Luka & Jokic would’ve done if they switched teams"
We can wander, but then we should keep this in mind: by playing the way he did, and by influencing the locker room the way he did, Jokic literally changed the culture of his team and transformed it to what we see today. Meaning: if you would switch Luka and Jokic, you would have to give Jokic another 5, 6 years in Dallas and only then look to his results.
And well... this would also apply vice versa, to Luka. And I would be a bit afraid of the result.
@@OscarUnrated if you gave jokic KYRIE IRVING they would have at least made the conference finals or 2nd round
@@yadonjohnson6209 lmao jamal murray is better. Kyrie hasn't gotten out of the second round since 2017. The Nets had the same winning % with and without him, he's not a winning player
Kevin Wildes was in his bag this season for real
Hopefully you guys take Undisputed time slot next sports season.
This show is the future of Fox Sports.
Most definitely....they been better than undisputed for awhile now..
But Nick said this time slot works better for him as a father to his kids in school
I agree, only sports show I watch.
Nick already said this slot works better to spend time with his kids and so his podcast. And spend family time. That's more important to him than the morning show
Nick is trash 😂
How doesn't Nick understand that Giannis' shortcomings were due to him being a lackluster shooter and a liability at the free throw line whereas Jokic's shortcomings were a direct result of the team around him being pathetic? His argument is just silly
So Gianni’s team was playing great in the series he lost? So jokic defense didn’t have to do with it?
@@justinholland6132 his defense was never the main reason for the losses like Giannis' shooting had been. Those Nuggets teams without Jamal and MPJ had no chance whatsoever against the finals bound Suns and the eventual champion in GSW.
@@justinholland6132 He aint elite on defense but he isnt a liability on that department.
@@justinholland6132 Jokic in his finals allowed 39.8 FG% When guarding. Giannis allowed 39.7 FG% when guarding during his finals.
“On actions that result in a shot or a pass that leads to a shot, Jokic-defended pick-and-rolls produce just 102.2 points per 100 direct plays. For comparison, in these playoffs, Jaren Jackson Jr. was at 102.6, Anthony Davis was at 106.5, and Draymond Green was at 107.9. “He is an elite defender in the pick-and-roll,” Murray says.
When Jokic drops, opponents have generated a paltry 105.6 points per 100 possessions. For reference, Joel Embiid helped hold opponents to 107.9 points per 100 possessions when deployed in the same coverage before the Sixers were eliminated in Round 2.”
“As much as everybody looks at what he does on the offensive side of the ball, he’s a hellified defender as well.” - Jimmy Butler
he was hurt lol
“Worst MVP in 35 years”
The humor, class, competitive spirit, and the mutual respect held between these three guys is what makes this show stand out from the rest.
Don't break up the team.
I've watched basketball for 40 years. I have never seen a player DOMINATE ALL FACETS of the game like Jokic. If he stays healthy for 8-10 years, he will have broke many MORE "unbreakable" records. He is truly a top 5 player of all time at that point.
Uhhhhhhh lebron???
@@blakebenham3130 Uhhhhhh NOOOOO! WAY OVERRATED. 4-6 IN THE FINALS!!! Do you want to get into it? Facts! Jordan didn't even pass the ball like Nikola! To many people like yourself are caught up in the name, "LEBRON.". While he is nice to watch, effectiveness is not the same as beauty.
Sadly for us fans, there’s no way Jokic will play after his contract is over. He will retire and ride his horse into the sunset. We probably won’t hear to much from him either.
@@grandmastersreaction1267 True. The NBA does not seem to be his priority. We can only hope that he makes it 7-8 more years. He might just surprise us a bit and go for most of the big records. He a chance to do that in multiple skillsets.
Nick doesn't want to have an argument about semantics because he knows his argument falls apart.
yep, Ratface Nick's lame fallacies and endless spin.... media clowns.
Nick is GOAT of terrible analysts. Even when he is correct he is 3 years late. Never forget "jokic will be the worst MVP in 35 years"
I mean he's been on the Patrick Mahomes bandwagon for years and stuck it out with Mahomes when everyone was saying "mayyybe Allen, mayyybe Burrow"
He's not a bad analyst at all. He gets most things right. And even saying Jokic was the worst MVP, up to that point in time Jokic had not won anything. Now that he broke through changes the discussion but when he said it, it had more weight to it
@@corytracy4066 he thought Shai might be better than Jokic as recently as the playoffs starting, and had Jokic outside the top-6 NBA players this year. He's a horrible analyst.
@@MLBlast40 SGA is a future MVP to be fair. Not saying he is better than Joker.
@@corytracy4066 But thats not analysis, that is revisionist history. You wont always be correct about your takes, but if you ANALYSE the game you will see things ahead of time. Waiting until Jokic wins 2 mvps and a FMVP to call him good at basketball is just....having eyeballs.
Brou forgets he picked the Brooklyn nets And then the Celtics to win 😂😂
Nick has Sixers beating Bucks to make it to the Finals 💀
Ya but he has no problem when he’s wrong
@@marianoortega6725 we talking about Brou who is gloating
@@davidmejia8500 he put on sunglasses for a few seconds lol Nick throws literal parades and hangs banners. I rather talk about Nick saying Jokic is the worst MVP of the last 40 years 💀
Historic year from Jokic. 🃏
Broussard kills me so hard. Reminds me of the Uncle who is like "I TOLD YA, IM ALWAYS RIGHT" after you do the opposite of what he said and it worked ☠️❤️🔥😂
I hope Nick liked how he looked in that Dave Cowens clip, because that clip will be shown by Nuggets fans for years to come.
Nick has the most ironic surname in history.
This applies so well to how many in the sports media act: "It's always over-the-top criticism until they win."
Anyone else already stay dying laughing at the thumbnail? 😂😂😂
When they gave the regular season MVP award to Embiid, Jokic was like, "I'm getting my MVP this year one way or another."
Yeah, he got WCF MVP and FINALS MVP.
@@davidrajaruzicka5546 which is way better getting the "2023 regular season popularity contest MVP"
Nick Wrong's picks are paying for my kids college. Big thanks. 😆
I died wen they pulled the glasses out😂😂😂”wildes don’t let him share this with you “💀😂
That Nick Wright impression by Wildes at the beginning of the segment is crazy bro 😂😂😂
Cool shades Chris looking into the camera with the conviction of judge Judy saying “nailed the finals” is arguably the funniest thing I’ve ever scene. Man is out of his mind.😂
Denver Nuggets Congrats!!!☝️🏀🏆🎉👏
this prolly one of my favorite episodes ever ive watched it like 10 times at this point.
Nick should have his name changed from Nick Wright to Nick Never Right. Just when you taught he couldn’t surpass his Andrew Wiggins take last year, he embarrassed himself this year with another horrendous take about Jokic.
Not Nick Wrong?
He is so delusional about everything from Andrew Wiggins to Jokic
*2 teams left* ...brou "I NAILED THAT FINALS PICK!"
😂😂😂
Right! And Wildes is an enabler! Hahaha
the glasses are sooo extra🤣🤣... i love this show
Forget the Finals, bring me the horserace results! 🔥
Nick Wright taking the L is just satisfying to watch. 😂
Wildes and Broussard taking a victory lap 😂! Wildes was the one who got it right meanwhile Chris is only celebrating despite him picking different teams all season.
I still love Nick, no matter how wrong he was about Jokic. It sounds like he can take being wrong and still fool around. Show is great, Jokic the best player in the world.
No more Skip and Shannon... You fellas gotta carry the torch now. A lot of pressure but you can do it
Broussard carries the show
I love this show, opening up with the blues brothers take, was awesome. Best sports show on TV.
Giannis vs Jokic is the new upcoming rivalry. We need a finals with them 💯
Yes!
giannis has to get past the first round tho :))
@@thehappyduck8895 Done that and more already😊
@@thehappyduck8895 Again. He did it when healthy couple years ago.
@@mathgod and everybody else was hurt. kd without his team brought giannis to 7. the bucks won the ecf when giannis missed games and they won more without him than with him. in the finals cp3 was hurt. congrats he finally won his ring by running thru injured teams and make a wish kids
Jokic stats and percentage number are mind blowing, nuggets nation let’s run it back!!!
This show was great throughout the whole playoffs
This one of the better episodes in terms of actual debate, I think both Nick and Brou had good and valid points, and I tend to think of NBA history with a combination of their mindsets
9:22 jamal murray is not 6’2😅 lol he’s every bit of 6’4 which is why i’m baffled by tft that darvin ham kept putting 5’11 dennis on him!! absolutely giving him free buckets 🤡🤡
Another team that had an extremely dominant run in the playoffs was the 1983 76ers. Went 12-1 in the playoffs & swept the Lakers in the Finals. That team also went 65-17 in the regular season.
Fo', fo', fo'.
They are arguably the greatest team of all time. Moses Malone and Dr. J on the same team. Absolutely dominant.
@@joeschmo7834c'mon.
Kawhi is so underrated it’s sad. Led a team to winning the finals while having one of the greatest playoff runs in history, and he doesn’t even get mentioned
The injuries ruined him
@2pac Nah, Jokic has Jamal, you can't count him on this list.
@2pac theres alot more ppl who did that lmaoo
@2pac off the top of my head Duncan in early 2000 clearly was the only stat and isah Thomas...off the top of my head
As my point guard says "Nick Wrong lol"
What a turnaround. From the worst MVP in history to an all-time great. The mental gymnastics this guy is capable of are amazing :)
pls keep this trio together, this show is the best.
Lmao Wilds and Bru puttin on there stunna shades the same time like MIB had me dead 😂😂
Why is Nick busting Bru’s chops on this? He picked the MAVERICKS to win it all until a couple weeks before the playoffs!! 🤡🤡🤡
I love how wild Nick gets when Bru accepts his 2nd or 3rd pick as a win and Wildes lets him join. So good
Nick’s final point makes sense. It’s okay to wait for someone to win the big one before anointing them.
2012 should have been a pic of Ray Allen carrying LeBron and Wade as babies 🤣
“Where most of the panelists were 100% right” 😂😂😂
Wildes actually deserved to celebrate but Chris??? Chris just jumps on bandwagons & then has the nerve lmaoo pls
you’re on point but he’s likable so nobody really notices/cares 😂😂😂
The shades are golden!! Seeing Broussard on the thumbnail was an instaclick LOL
The level of respect that these men have for eachother and their opinions is why I Think this is the one of the best analytics show (if that's what it's called) to watch. I love these guys and respect their opinions more than anyone else. Even over Shaq and the crew, though Shaq is becoming less of a hater and doing much better.
I find it weird that Murray isn't featured with joking like Shaq is with kobe
Murray didn't have the monster-game in the finals, that he usually has every series. Kobe became better than Shaq at some point. If Murray can keep his production high, he will get the rep. Murray has nearly equally good playoff-numbers as Kobe.
Curse of Brou over??
Yes it's over 😊
Not just a debate show but also a comedy show. And i love it.
Chris is right, at no point did it feel like Miami would pull it off last night.
I just really felt like Denver was going to win all along so I agree even when we were behind and I was there I just knew we were going to win
How is Bru happy when neither of his picks even made the Finals lol 😂😂
It was Nick who said Nikola was the worst league MVP in 35 years... Picked against the Nuggets all throughout the playoffs! What a complete Jag-off.
Broussard needs to stop pretending his 4th/5th picks to win the finals are his initial picks when the playoffs finish and he eventually gets it right 😭
He did the same with the warriors last year. He said nobody was beating the Suns last year and then at the end picked the warriors over Boston 😂
@@nickolasm404 he’ll do it again next year and act the same way lool
Nick has done the same
He is just doing it cause of Nick
He pikced the nets😂
Honestly love these 3.. they keep us laughing
Nick needs to stop with this nokic hate give the man his due he is a finals mvp and a champion literally lead the playoffs in every statistical category
Proposal for new By law Amendment: No analyst or host shall be permitted to wear victory sunglasses unless the team that won the championship was their pick at the start of the season. 😄
I guess nobody is going to talk about how nick hasn’t won a game since starting 12-0 🤣🤣🤣
I’d love to hear Broussard’s list of people who were all time greats without rings that he’d put over all-time greats who won as the best on their team. I can’t think of any off the top of my head.
Exactly what I was thinking 🤔
Barkley for one and perhaps AI
Dennis Johnson won a ring in Seattle when he was the best player on the team. Then won 2 rings with the Celtics when he was not the best player on the team. Love Dennis as a player but Barkley, Malone and Stockton would probably rank higher as better players who did not win rings. Maybe Johnson is not good enough for the list? It's the only title Seattle won and Dennis Johnson and to lesser extent Jack Sikma got it for them.
@@valk_7233over who?
honestly not mad at jokic at 7th all-time center. what he did in this playoffs was all-time great. deserved.
The Mental Gymnastics Of Nick Wright is amazing lol
Its annoying when Brou actively refuses to try to understand what Nick is saying. I get it and i totally agree with Nick. Jokic would've been an all time great regardless, but you cant put him in that caregory this soon UNLESS he won a ring and had a dominant run
nick is also the guy that said Jokic is worst mvp in last 35 years loool and he said history will judge him favorably his takes are trash every take
I thought Jokic winning his second MVP, would've swayed more people from that mentality. The Nuggets were the sixth seed, and still they gave Jokic the MVP. Same thing should apply to rings. It isn't an absolute necessity to win a ring, to cement a legacy as an all time great. Examples being Barkley, Ewing, Malone. And, Stockton, Iverson and T-Mac.
He has been individually dominant for a while.
he put Luka in that list when he has done nothing. not even a regular season mvp.
@jameswabwire1931 he's 24 dude. To say he's done nothing is just such a ridiculous statement. He's taken a decent team to a west finals and destroys every single team he plays against in the playoffs. You can't point to a single game where he was the reason they lost or weren't competitive.
Yep.This is GOLDEN.
This is by far the best sports show
Jimmy is indeed not Himmy 😢
Congrats Joker and the Nuggets! People can finally stop doubting you 👊
Correct, like a Klay.
@@AJLD1Klay right now, yeah, but prime Klay led the entire playoffs in points B4. So I don't even think that's fair to him
@@MapleGlazedDonutsUm he is... He led a play-in team to the NBA Finals.
@@armandr1613overrated
@@yackum_3331 by who? Underrated if anything.
Nick is such a 🤡 for his previous takes and comments on Nikola Jokić, I'm enjoying and just want for him to be accountable for bs he said.
Ring or no ring Chuck, Ewing, Elgin, Stockton and Malone are All Time greats.
That Pressure finally broke Jimmy, had a Hole in the Bucket
I'm a Denver fan but nothing but respect for Butler and the Heat. There's only so much you can do ... and Jimmy carried them to the finals. Aaron Gordon is a very good defender and Heat just had a nightmare facing Jokic and Gordon in the paint.
To say Duncan became an all-time great in 2003 is a disrespectful statement. He was first team all nba his first year and he went to have the best record in the NBA in his second year and had arguably the most dominant playoff run ever. It was a shortened season but what he did was unparalleled. He beat Garnett, swept Shaq and Kobe, swept that deep Blazers team with guys like Rasheed, Sabonis, Stoudamire and Brian Grant. And finally he gentleman swept the Knicks with Ewing, Allan Houston and the crew. The next couple years, it was just Shaq and Kobe’s years and he competed against them in those years. There are some guys that are legends the moment they walked into the league. Guys like Jordan, Bird, Shaq are like that and even Magic. You know they’re up there already before a full season of NBA basketball. Duncan was like that he was already up there in his 2nd year. I don’t think anybody disputed him as the best in the game in 99 because he left nobody in the discussion. Karl Malone choked once again despite winning the MVP. Duncan came in 3rd in that by the way in his 2nd year, lost 2 games the whole playoffs and dominated everybody including Garnett, Shaq and Ewing, guys who are all-time greats that he faced in their matchups.
Now his 2003 season is even more legendary. You could argue it’s the greatest individual season ever. Best record in the league with 60 wins, MVP and all defensive first team, beat the Suns who had Penny, Stoudemire, Shawn Marion and Starbury not to mention Iso Joe. Dominated the best version of the Shaq and Kobe Lakers. This wasn’t like the Detroit series which they choked. This was the best version of Kobe prime Shaq ever played with and they got outclassed by Duncan. Beat Dirk and the Mavs and beat the Jason Kidd led Nets and had the greatest defensive series any individual has ever had in the history of the NBA. But to say that’s when he became an all-time great is ridiculous
Dude, u selling it like a salesman means that u lying a lot.
In 99
Avery led the Spurs in points in the series vs Wolves.
Vs Lakers TD led by far in points.
Vs Blazers D.Robinson led in both points and rebounds ahead of TD.
In the Finals
Knicks had no bigs to compete and TD naturally took over in PPG.
00-02 for 3 YEARS straight TD got destroyed by Shaq and Kobe especially Kobe who was a nightmare for TD in all their series matchups when they met in the Playoffs.
In 03 was TD best season Overall even if the regular season was a Spurs thing more than a TD thing bec Kobe avg way greater during the season and that's factual.
Nick Wright is good at arguing but too stupid to understand the value of a complete player like duncan. Someone that consistently gives you a tremendous advantage because of court awareness and amazing hand eye coordination. Both duncan and Jokic play in such a way that Nick us too low level of a thinker to understand. He needs stats because he’s kind of dumb
This is such a crazy comment. Duncan in 99 was solid but far from a carry. And 2003 was not peak Kobe Shaq, it was clearly 2001 which is arguably the best version of both players and guess what, they swept Duncan. If anything the graphic is disrespectful to Kobe who had an all time great postseason run in 2001 but apparently wasn't an all time great up until 2009??
Duncan is the most overrated player ever
This is where the hating is clear in Nick. Because Giannis had nearly the exact same 3 year run ‘19-‘21 as Jokic 3 year run of ‘21-‘23. Giannis got a DPOY to add to it but he also has had a much more poor performance than Jokic has overall in those 3 years in the playoffs. But when Giannis won the title Nick put him in the top 13-15ish range and over KD but Jokic is just 20-22 for him
Dirk/Mavs playoff run was insane
Love this show. Great debate and great chemistry between the gents.
Nicks comments about looking back on Jokers MVP awards being the worst ones in league history are looking pretty stupid right now. Embid getting it this year was a sympathy award because he was crying about it and they didn't want to give it to Joker a 3rd year. These analyist are looking pretty dumb right about now.... yes it is a regular season award but that doesn't change the fact that they got it wrong. Grats Nuggets, the most disrespected number 1 seed that nobody was picking.
Nick and the media owes Denver a public apology
No they don't. In terms of Jokic, I feel like it's fair to warrant having 3 back to back to back MVP's you should at least reached the finals once. As far as coverage of the team, they've had multiple early play off exits and had never won a championship before this one, they had an unmarketable star and an injured 2nd option prior to this season. I am happy for Denver, but they had possible the easiest run to the finals in recent memory. T-Wolves, Suns team in disarray, A Lakers team with a 40 year old superstar playing with a bunch of teenagers and an 8 seed missing their 2nd best player. Nobody really cared, if people did care than the media would talk about them thats how ratings work, the disinterest from the fans is literally half of it.
@@1zxtvBoy, that's some revisionist history if I've ever seen it. Did you not pay attention to the amount of hype the media gave the Suns and the Lakers? How about "the next Kobe Bryant" Jimmy Butler and the underdog squad? But I guess you're going to write off one of the most dominant runs in NBA playoff history with "They played a bunch of pushovers" no wonder you're defending Wright. I'm pretty sure this dude was talking about Wright's "worst NBA MVP" take (would love to see you try to defend that) rather than Jokic not winning 3 MVP's. Saying "the media doesn't cover the #1 seed cause the fans don't care" isn't the great point you think it is. Quite an indictment of the NBA fanbase. If you like big cities, drama, and storylines, then go watch reality TV, I don't think athletic competition is your thing.
Of course they do. But these clowns like Nick have no shame, nothing but lame fallacies and endless spin.
Glad I still have this show I used to have this and undisputed
Nick still needs to answer for putting doncic as the 20 best player in the last 50 years and leaving jokic completely off the list. He keeps saying how he’s just holding him to the standard of every other great player but he doesn’t keep that same energy for doncic
they were so wrong throughout whole year. if they get like 1 out of 5 predictions right, then they are really proud of themselves
What person isn’t l? That’s the beauty of sports, it’s very unpredictable to a degree.
That’s why it’s called a prediction lol u expect these guys to know the future
I am so glad Brousard brought up the point of people relying too heavy on rings when ranking and comparing players. There are players who've never won rings that are better than players who led or were major contributors to championship teams.
Team loyalty is often overlooked. That what makes nuggets championship run much sweeter. Basketball is a team sport after all ❤️🏆 🏀
With Shannon Sharpe gone from Undisputed, this is now officially the best sports show out there rn
Nikola Sweep' a Queenovic' Hurtin' Nick ALL kindsa ways
Nick can't seriously still hold somone's preseason pick against them and think it's legit can he lmao. It's fine to make a prediction on a champion when the playoffs start bruh why would you die on the hill of a team that fell apart in a regular season?
Wait what? Brou had the suns beating the nuggets during that series. What are you talking about?
Brou didn’t pick the nuggets until the finals when they were clearly the favorites but acts like he had the whole time. Wildes is the only one that can brag.