Mistakes in the video, the mini wasn't 4000 pounds, it was 40000 pence = 400 gbp back in 1997. Airbrush did exist back then, what i meant to say was that it wasn't really used in our hobby. I try my best but some times i miss things, i'm only human :)
"[...] it wasn't really used in our hobby", as a ten year old, no, I doubt you had an airbrush. But it was used, just not by children. I doubt children today use an airbrush.
The Ultramarine Chapter project was painted up by all the UK stores - if I remember rightly each store had a certain quota of Ultras to paint up for it. Any former staffers reading that can confirm?
As the proud owner of #110, though no where near the accomplished modeller whom you are, I do feel that I need to warn you, as there are four major watch-outs in assembling this monster: 1. All elements of the fuselage need to be pinned, personally I found 2 per panel are needed to get both good alignment, and proper structural support. 2. I (strongly) recommend that you use epoxy for the majority of the structural assemblies (Super Glue will simply not do) 3. in my experience, it is easier to assemble the fuselage in it's entirety (this is not shown in the instructions(!). I recommend that you assemble 8 and 9 first (NOT as shown in the instructions in step 24 (!), at that point the model will be too unwieldy to get proper alignment. 4. This will also make fitting the landing gear easier (this is also a highly complex step) I pinned mine in two spots, not sure that was the best choice, but the forward landing gear assembly is the trickiest. I recommend completing fuselage first, then the landing gear, then the engines and the turret assembly and lastly the wings. Because the model is so heavy, it may be advisable to paint individual assemblies, prior to completion. A few other considerations: The model does not come with the 2 Lascannon or the missile launchers, that are on it's current datasheet. I used the better part of a pack of Green Stuff, because the pieces are not fitted very well, perhaps you will have better luck. Lastly, it is advisable to think about a flight stand. Anyways - Good luck! She is an awesome model, but an unbelievable nightmare to put together... Enjoy!
If it turns out to be a really extensive video on both the build and the paint job... it might well become the best miniature video I ever seen. Emil, if you're reading this: I know I'm not in any position to have any kinds of demands, but please, please consider making these videos cinematographically long. ;)
The fact that GW hasn’t released a plastic thunderhawk kit is a travesty. They would sell a billion of them. Heck I hate space marines and I’d buy one the second they became available.
@@kohlerxxx You say that but the resin kit for the Baneblade was still up on forgeworld when they released the plastic one...but...yeah as one of FWs bigger and more expensive sellers, probably won't see a plastic one, would be like the Tau getting a plastic Manta.
As the proud owner of #293, Welcome to the club! Hopefully your model came with brass rods for pinning. I hope you have a good Dremel type drill and a lot of patience. Also, the landing gear is especially tricky.
Not that even the Eavy Metal team was enough to paint the minis for a GD diorama. In true fashion the whole Imperium, ehm company, had to contribute. Every store and every department got its share of minis to paint. And small conversions were encouraged. It was an awesome feeling to see the whole diorama at Games Day and search your own miniatures.
If memory serves me, the 2nd bike squad, orange company, was done by the Sheffield store, my local, going by the "whose doing what" list they showed in White Dwarf. I saw the whole display (plus Ork Assassin in the ranks) at Nottingham, and they'd updated the bikers to the plastic ones! Going by the same article, they had to dig around for the Land Raiders, as by then they were OOP
That was standard for the big armys they used at games day, the Dublin store had some Lizardmen in the cabinet for years that they painted and brought over on the ferry for a display, would have been 2012 I think
@@Nethezbet Yeah, it's been kept safely in its box in pristine condition since I bought it, which I believe was around xmas of '99, one of the very last ones sold. Realistically, I was never going to do anything really worthwhile with it, so seeing it get such a loving treatment is awesome!
@@UnciaAmethice only bad thing about this series is the grind to get one just got even harder/rarer to get. Afterall demand is soaring with this video. I wonder how many are left still complete in the box.
been collecting gw miniatures since the early eighties, say 1984, my army was dark elves and insanely I 'm still collecting them. great to see a fellow gw collector who is obviously just as addicted to figures as I and all the other mini nutters are, good work ;)
I remember Jes Godwin turning the Elves around for Games Workshop. They were a bit, well, rubbish...then he came out with the Wood Elf Wardancers. Blew me away completely. Awesome designer!
The ultramarines display was achieved by getting each of the GW store staff to paint a squad. Our store was 5th company squad 2 IIRC, the staff at HQ painted the vehicles, even foen to secretaries painting Rhinos etc. So while individual models may not be Eavy metal standard (by a long shot) the overall effect is quite something.
I remember that games day. The entire ultramarines chapter on display. Every store in the UK was responsible for painting a single squad and vehicle and then had to send them to Nottingham so the display could be put together for games day.
I bought mine through my local Games Workshop store in 1998. There was no rush of people buying Thunderhawks so as an incentive they gave me a 1000 point army (of my choice) for free when I ordered my gunship. It was a fun day ☺️
Seeing as these are so rare I would put forward the idea of preserving as much of the model/process as possible. Document each piece with high resolution photos or possibly 3D scans so that it could be potenetially recreated later down the line. Its a hell of a task but I can see the long term benefits in regards to history.
I worked in the US Mail Order Department (pre-internet store) at the time. I remember packing them when they arrived from the UK to send to the US buyer. We treated it like it was a holy relic from the Emperor himself. I think it could have been dropped from a 3 story building without damaging the box it came in.
@@berthulf The staff member that got one in Stoke on Trent used large brass rod for pinning so is will take a while and you'll need a good drill and drill bits to do it.
Build a frame from brass rod wired together. Then pin EVERY SINGLE PIECE with 4-5 thick paper clip pins. I worked at GW US-HQ (1998-2000) when it was still in Baltimore and that is what the studio guys told me to do. It will still probably fall apart if someone across the street sneezes. And I can’t believe I could have made $6,000.00 more than when I sold mine in 2006.
Man, seeing that box reminded me why GeeDubs is the powerhouse of miniwargaming, they may have all the industry and technology, but they never forget that sense of artisanship and narrative, they do more than miniature, they make you part of a story.
I can't help but think that many modellers, far more skilled than I, bought these kits with every intention of assembling them, opened that beautiful box, took one look, and then succumbed to despair.
Good point. I bought the Space Hulk boxset about 12 years ago. But unfortunately I stopped paining just after pre-ordering it. (My daughter is 12 1/2 years old now.
man I remember that 3rd edition, the promo posters and that big-ass gunship. I built my first ultramarine platoons in ‘97 and never had the money to get the ship - the ship sat in my local store for a few years lol, no one wanted to touch it. Now I’m seeing how much I’ve missed since not painting any miniatures since 2001. This channel has been amazing in reigniting my nostalgia.
😅 I'm pretty sure we had airbrushes in the 90s. I'm pretty sure the 'eavy metal team are/were mandated to use company product. But we definitely had airbrushes.
Can you imagine that? "So we're considering you for the model making team, but as part of your trial process, we'd like for you to make this." "Okay, a new Epic Thunderhawk?" "No." "Oh."
@@TurnStyleGames Fair enough. All I really meant is get the pieces out there for folks that want one of their own, and one that does not weight fifteen pounds.
I can't wait to see how you build the front landing gear. That was the only thing that stopped me in my tracks when I was a kid building mine. I suspect that this build will inspire me to finish mine finally!
@@jackthompson7546 no they couldn’t come after you if it’s just for your personal use. As long as you won’t try to sell them, you could make as many copies as you’d like
The dude who used to run the games in games workshop liverpool had one of these. Brian you made my childhood worth having thank you for all the fun times!
There are interior supports and brass rods to run through the entire model. A little bit of pinning on major joints and super glue did just fine for mine.
I worked in pewter casting for about 6 years and in learning how to make molds I was taught that the metal shrinks up to 3%. This shrink is on top of any shrinking that happens before the mold is made depending whether a master copy needed to be made due to material heat tolerance
This is one of those minis that deserves to be built and painted and used. But..its also one of those that needs to be preserved in its box for posterity. Its going to be a huge challenge to build. Good luck and I look forward to seeing the progress!
Great video. One small nitpick, 3rd edition codex was ‘98. They showed it off plenty in White Dwarf and brought the entire Ultramarines chapter to Games Day for years. Iirc it wasn’t just the ‘eavy metal team but people from all over GW HQ that contributed to painting it.
Congratulations!!! I can't wait to see this getting built! I'll definitely be checking out the sponsor to show appreciation as well. Thank you for making it possible to finally get a good look at this beauty, Lost Adventures and Squidmar!
I was 15 when i went to that Games Day and was amazed by this full chapter in the flesh. I also entered a mini in Golden Demon that year as they were the same event. This video just brought back great memories
I used to work in GW in Nottingham at the time, the Thunderhawk was the most desired miniature even by us, but the price and the difficulty of building it stopped most of us. There was a joke we used to tell "You must be either mad or American to buy it".
Airbrushes existed before 1997. They were just super expensive and were never used in gaming. Model train, military, and remote controlled planes had access to them. As someone who delt with the large metal Nid models I suggest J and B quick welt to put it together. Most glues are simply too weak to hold. Bad news, do it right the first time because once it's set it's metal.
That full Ultramarine painted army appeared in an earlier Whitedwarf magazine and came with an article. The Heavymetal team was years too small to paint it all. Most of it came from GW stores around the world, where they had to paint squads and mail them back to GW HQ, though the entire army aside from some special characters are painted in the most basic way possible for obvious reasons. the article included the chart they had to make to know who had to paint what/when. I actually have said whitedwarf, it's one of the first i ever bought. Oh and im jealous of your thunderhawk.
That Ultramarine army was painted by GW store staff. Each store had to paint a unit or a vehicle the same way. I was a teenager and helped paint them at My local GW store. 100% true story.
Bit of lore for you as I went to that Games Day, it was the stores who painted up the Ultramarines Army. Each store (were a lot less back then) was tasked to do one aspect of the display and they brought it with them on the day. So we all went up together from the stores in a coach hired by the store so we were with the staff. So while we all queued to get in the staff went in with the models and then were assigned stations in the Arena for the day.
There have been at least three Thunderhawk models for Epic, for mine looks a lot better (even more details, same shape though) than that second one, and I bought mine in 1999. ;-)
@@redenginner well it IS metal and with my luck, it should just be enough to hit some (un)lucky spot.... Note: I have managed to break my foot twice last year. One time while putting on socks.
I heard a story about one of these from the staff at the store back when I played 40k. A store (not the one I was gaming at) got one of these, put it together, painted it all up and then put it pride of place in a display cabinet, where it immediately crashed through the glass shelf and proceeded to deep strike through everything underneath it.
"Back then there was no such thing as an airbrush" On that, you're wrong. The first airbrush was invented in 1879, sir. Whether they had access to one for this army is another matter of course, but exist they absolutely did.
Amazing kit, I always wanted this version when I was younger. I built the first resin Thunderhawk gunship from Forgeworld about 14 years ago, then the Thunderhawk transporter a few years after, they were both horrendous to put together, never seen so many miss shaped bits on a kit, the gaps were huge and nothing fitted properly. Perseverance, determination and loads of super glue and plastic card. Result, two lovely, impressive centre pieces. Looking forward to this. 👍
It’s funny as hell when the quote on the certificate for the biggest space marine model ever is a quote from Macharius quoted by Kryptman, a regular human Lord General and a radical Inquisitor
@@kelvingriffiths6017 I mean, doesn't really matter if the money came from his youtube or patrons etc. Just meant it like, this is the thing he's wanted the most. He should spend hundreds of hours painting it. issue with vehicles is, it's hard to paint blends and transitions without it looking weird since it's mostly flat surfaces. so it won't take him as long to paint if i'm honest.
Squdmar, that is awesome! All I can think is I'd recast it in plastic and build the plastic version, save the metal version. It will look amazing, regardless. One picky bit: Airbrushes have been around for a *very* long time. They were invented about 1880, and I used them to do medical illustration, photo touch-up, magazine illustration, and display painting in the 1970s. I guess they just didn't figure using them for miniatures until later!
I hope you cast this, either the entire ship or at least parts for other projects. Not suggesting you make a garage kit of an edition of 100 kits and pocket some spending cash, selling each kit for £200+ x100kits= £20,000, no, I am not saying that. They would all sell, but I'm not saying to do that(btw, that's 233,403 SEK) I am just thinking you could incorporate parts of the planes parts in future terrain, dioramas, ect. (Or sell maybe 5-10 kits and cover your costs?)
You showed my thunderhawk when you went through all the old minis. A friend of mine build it and I can only say: use resin and epoxy to glue. Pinning alone will not give enough stability to it.
My buddy Matt painted that salamanders thunderbrick you show at the start, his entire old-skool epic army deserves a look, he hand sculpted the old MK1 terminators too.... Great to see epic scale minis on RUclips!
Good luck with this one - I was 15 in 1997, and after two years of saving up my Saturday job wages I was caught between buying one of these or my first computer. I went with the computer, but man I wish I'd picked one of these up. Can't wait to see what you make of it, nostalgia on a high my end :)
Excellent, I have one of these kicking about somewhere. I did try to put parts of it together, but it really is a beast to try and build. It's all very heavy metal, mine is a mixture of the old lead based metal and the newer white metal. I also used to give the tours around the "museum" when the full Ultramarines chapter was on display with the original Thunderhawk models.
We are the same age and our warhammer journey is similar and started Around the same time. Married and have kids now. Difficult to do anything now but I buy some minis from time to time, build sometimes but have no paint supplies anymore. I enjoy watching your content.
I still remember when the world tour of this was cut short in Australia because the thing snapped in half... Memory and rumours being shared with a 13 y/o at the time - when I think back 25 years I was probably being sold a lie by my local (Castle Hill) GW at the time. Such a beautiful model and to thing it was hand sculpted!
Back in the late 90s I was a regular at Portsmouth Wargames club. A guy brought in a fully and quite beautifully assembled but mostly unpainted metal Thunderhawk (this model). He was being escorted by his wife, who had discovered how much he had paid for it. She was there to make sure he sold it to one of the other club members. I don't know how much for, but she certainly had a scowl on her face.
This is where low temperature soldering comes into its own. This would simplify (and speed up) assembly and weight would not be an issue for any of the joints. Did a lot of white metal soldering in my model railway days with hundreds of locomotives and rolling stock kits.
can confirm that every store in the UK was given something from that company of Ultramarines to paint for the Games Day display. Although not a staffer at the time (I worked there shortly after 40k 3.5 launch), I was in the orbit of folks that were employed at the time
Mistakes in the video, the mini wasn't 4000 pounds, it was 40000 pence = 400 gbp back in 1997.
Airbrush did exist back then, what i meant to say was that it wasn't really used in our hobby.
I try my best but some times i miss things, i'm only human :)
40000 pence is 400 pounds
@@RobertSE6 Thanks :) i said 4000 pounds on one place
I think you were right to begin with. 40k pence is £400 as 100p is £1
"[...] it wasn't really used in our hobby", as a ten year old, no, I doubt you had an airbrush.
But it was used, just not by children. I doubt children today use an airbrush.
The Ultramarine Chapter project was painted up by all the UK stores - if I remember rightly each store had a certain quota of Ultras to paint up for it. Any former staffers reading that can confirm?
As the proud owner of #110, though no where near the accomplished modeller whom you are, I do feel that I need to warn you, as there are four major watch-outs in assembling this monster: 1. All elements of the fuselage need to be pinned, personally I found 2 per panel are needed to get both good alignment, and proper structural support. 2. I (strongly) recommend that you use epoxy for the majority of the structural assemblies (Super Glue will simply not do) 3. in my experience, it is easier to assemble the fuselage in it's entirety (this is not shown in the instructions(!). I recommend that you assemble 8 and 9 first (NOT as shown in the instructions in step 24 (!), at that point the model will be too unwieldy to get proper alignment. 4. This will also make fitting the landing gear easier (this is also a highly complex step) I pinned mine in two spots, not sure that was the best choice, but the forward landing gear assembly is the trickiest. I recommend completing fuselage first, then the landing gear, then the engines and the turret assembly and lastly the wings. Because the model is so heavy, it may be advisable to paint individual assemblies, prior to completion.
A few other considerations:
The model does not come with the 2 Lascannon or the missile launchers, that are on it's current datasheet.
I used the better part of a pack of Green Stuff, because the pieces are not fitted very well, perhaps you will have better luck. Lastly, it is advisable to think about a flight stand.
Anyways - Good luck! She is an awesome model, but an unbelievable nightmare to put together... Enjoy!
Now that`s some real insider advice ;)
And ofcourse squidmar can't be bothered to even reply...
Thunderhawk: The Mini Documentary you never knew you needed
If it turns out to be a really extensive video on both the build and the paint job... it might well become the best miniature video I ever seen.
Emil, if you're reading this: I know I'm not in any position to have any kinds of demands, but please, please consider making these videos cinematographically long. ;)
:D
No way I've been begging creators for this for years. I want to know more about the production and history of the mini side.
@@oatlord Mezgike is one of the exceptions; too bad he didn't upload anything for quite a while now.
Fun video Squidmar. We haven't seen one of those for years. Almost forgot it existed 😊
DUNCAN !!
But did they paint it with two thin coats?
The fact that GW hasn’t released a plastic thunderhawk kit is a travesty. They would sell a billion of them. Heck I hate space marines and I’d buy one the second they became available.
@@softlightsymphonyband unfortunately as long as the resin kit is on Forge World I wouldn't expect a plastic kit
@@kohlerxxx You say that but the resin kit for the Baneblade was still up on forgeworld when they released the plastic one...but...yeah as one of FWs bigger and more expensive sellers, probably won't see a plastic one, would be like the Tau getting a plastic Manta.
As the proud owner of #293, Welcome to the club! Hopefully your model came with brass rods for pinning. I hope you have a good Dremel type drill and a lot of patience. Also, the landing gear is especially tricky.
I still have the box of #51
Not that even the Eavy Metal team was enough to paint the minis for a GD diorama. In true fashion the whole Imperium, ehm company, had to contribute. Every store and every department got its share of minis to paint. And small conversions were encouraged. It was an awesome feeling to see the whole diorama at Games Day and search your own miniatures.
If memory serves me, the 2nd bike squad, orange company, was done by the Sheffield store, my local, going by the "whose doing what" list they showed in White Dwarf. I saw the whole display (plus Ork Assassin in the ranks) at Nottingham, and they'd updated the bikers to the plastic ones!
Going by the same article, they had to dig around for the Land Raiders, as by then they were OOP
That was standard for the big armys they used at games day, the Dublin store had some Lizardmen in the cabinet for years that they painted and brought over on the ferry for a display, would have been 2012 I think
yeah I remember this, every store and I think some clubs painted something about it 😁
Portsmouth store painted a squad which I helped back in the day. Even saw it all at games day!
I remember us doing a squad in the Aberdeen store - I also remember having to do 120 witch elves around that time as well
Guy from midwinter buys a warlord titan
Squidmar: Hold my thunderhawk!
Both. Both is good
This is a real miniature painting arms race.
So glad to see this video series kicking off proper. Can't think of a better home for my old 'hawk!
Looks like it was kept pristine, I'll bet you're pretty excited to see this lol
@@Nethezbet Yeah, it's been kept safely in its box in pristine condition since I bought it, which I believe was around xmas of '99, one of the very last ones sold.
Realistically, I was never going to do anything really worthwhile with it, so seeing it get such a loving treatment is awesome!
Thanks for parting with it so we could enjoy seeing it being put together
@@UnciaAmethice only bad thing about this series is the grind to get one just got even harder/rarer to get. Afterall demand is soaring with this video. I wonder how many are left still complete in the box.
hah i bet you sold it pretty cheap compared to the price spike after this video ;)
been collecting gw miniatures since the early eighties, say 1984, my army was dark elves and insanely I 'm still collecting them. great to see a fellow gw collector who is obviously just as addicted to figures as I and all the other mini nutters are, good work ;)
Squidmar and his gunship Vs midwinterminis and his warlord titan battle report pls
Get Dana Howl and Black Magic Craft to put their city tables together for the battleground
@@ShallowVA yes
Yes!! This!!!
id just about sell my girlfriend to science to see this
and i really love that bih
Kuodos on reaching out to the OG designer! Great work!
Cheers mate, he was an incredible friendly guy :)
And I got a kick out of the speaking animations
I remember Jes Godwin turning the Elves around for Games Workshop. They were a bit, well, rubbish...then he came out with the Wood Elf Wardancers. Blew me away completely. Awesome designer!
“The quality of the casting is really really good, apart from nothing fitting.” Made me lol
All of the line infantry and tanks were painted by GW store staff. I remember sitting in the Chester store while the manager and staff were going mad.
The ultramarines display was achieved by getting each of the GW store staff to paint a squad. Our store was 5th company squad 2 IIRC, the staff at HQ painted the vehicles, even foen to secretaries painting Rhinos etc. So while individual models may not be Eavy metal standard (by a long shot) the overall effect is quite something.
it would be amazing to 3D scan the parts to conserve the model - it seems like an awesome project to work on even in just plastic or resin
Can I just say that you are one of the only people who did an Ad that I didn't want to skip over? It was something relevant and awesome.
Joining the exclusive group with Bobby Duke, Evan and Katelyn, and of course, Ryan Reynolds
I remember that games day. The entire ultramarines chapter on display. Every store in the UK was responsible for painting a single squad and vehicle and then had to send them to Nottingham so the display could be put together for games day.
Love how GW back then actually said the model was "a bitch to put together" lmao, very different than today.
Well, Challenge was part of fun with pewter-white metal =)
Yeah, its a game about death and grimdark, yet most of the writing is kid friendly Disney esque PC
I bought mine through my local Games Workshop store in 1998.
There was no rush of people buying Thunderhawks so as an incentive they gave me a 1000 point army (of my choice) for free when I ordered my gunship. It was a fun day ☺️
Seeing as these are so rare I would put forward the idea of preserving as much of the model/process as possible. Document each piece with high resolution photos or possibly 3D scans so that it could be potenetially recreated later down the line. Its a hell of a task but I can see the long term benefits in regards to history.
2nd that
just know that GW may get odd about it
Keep a count of how many pins you have to use to hold it together, good luck!!
I worked in the US Mail Order Department (pre-internet store) at the time. I remember packing them when they arrived from the UK to send to the US buyer. We treated it like it was a holy relic from the Emperor himself. I think it could have been dropped from a 3 story building without damaging the box it came in.
That lost adventures ads feels nostalgic, especially it feels like smosh videos pre 2010’s era. I love it
That is one of those models that makes me terrified to simply start assembling it.
All I can say it PIN everything where you can the weight on that thing is going to be insane.
Super glue would not keep that thing together...
@@17blaziken nope needs lots of pins and hash marking the sections that go together
@@xenoserum honestly, it probably won't stay together even then... this thing's gonna need soldering at the bare minimum, and possibly welding.
@@berthulf The staff member that got one in Stoke on Trent used large brass rod for pinning so is will take a while and you'll need a good drill and drill bits to do it.
Build a frame from brass rod wired together. Then pin EVERY SINGLE PIECE with 4-5 thick paper clip pins. I worked at GW US-HQ (1998-2000) when it was still in Baltimore and that is what the studio guys told me to do. It will still probably fall apart if someone across the street sneezes.
And I can’t believe I could have made $6,000.00 more than when I sold mine in 2006.
Man, seeing that box reminded me why GeeDubs is the powerhouse of miniwargaming, they may have all the industry and technology, but they never forget that sense of artisanship and narrative, they do more than miniature, they make you part of a story.
I do wonder; out of the five hundred made, how many of them were actually assembled and not just kept in their boxes?
I can't help but think that many modellers, far more skilled than I, bought these kits with every intention of assembling them, opened that beautiful box, took one look, and then succumbed to despair.
I put mine together, so much pinning.
Good point. I bought the Space Hulk boxset about 12 years ago. But unfortunately I stopped paining just after pre-ordering it. (My daughter is 12 1/2 years old now.
Totally understand the “terrified” feeling. The amount of patience and glue needed!
Honestly, thats an INSANE model, a full METAL Thunder hawk gunship... just dont drop it
Yeah don't drop it, it will definitely damage the floor.
@@anakon dropping any model is like my biggest fear
@@anakon also yes if you drop that you will have a crater in your floor
"This maneuver is called white métal rain"
It is a Nokia
man I remember that 3rd edition, the promo posters and that big-ass gunship. I built my first ultramarine platoons in ‘97 and never had the money to get the ship - the ship sat in my local store for a few years lol, no one wanted to touch it. Now I’m seeing how much I’ve missed since not painting any miniatures since 2001. This channel has been amazing in reigniting my nostalgia.
Finally feels like i’ve been waiting for years
😅 I'm pretty sure we had airbrushes in the 90s. I'm pretty sure the 'eavy metal team are/were mandated to use company product. But we definitely had airbrushes.
That thing is begging to be scanned, adjusted slightly, then made into files for 3d printing
I think I'd rather make silicon molds and cast resin...I mean that's probably the only thing I could get away with . :p
Tim Adcock saying it was his first time making a miniature model, that thing is a juggernaut
Can you imagine that?
"So we're considering you for the model making team, but as part of your trial process, we'd like for you to make this."
"Okay, a new Epic Thunderhawk?"
"No."
"Oh."
Man your video production is on point! I can’t imagine cleaning all those metal parts. You are brave.
Beyonnnnnd Insane! A glue manufacture should sponsor you for putting this together with all that weight! Can't wait to see
and to imagine that they lanchued hundreds of these ships over Istvaan
Just finished "Fulgrim" today funnily enough. The massacre of three legions, pretty dark.
bruh I’ll stick to painting my dollar tree space astro soldiers
Dare I say it?
Send it off to a *cough!*recaster*cough!* before assembling it.
dew it
You would never get it back
3d scan it to 3d print copies
People can whip up a better 3D printed copy nowadays - no need for recasted resin, unless it's just for nostalgia's sake.
@@TurnStyleGames Fair enough. All I really meant is get the pieces out there for folks that want one of their own, and one that does not weight fifteen pounds.
I can't wait to see how you build the front landing gear. That was the only thing that stopped me in my tracks when I was a kid building mine. I suspect that this build will inspire me to finish mine finally!
i love the 90s style advert XD
haha thanks, lots of love put in to it :D
You should make casts of the pieces out of resin. It may be lighter, easier to work with and you can keep the original parts in the box.
"(...) and I've never made a miniature in my life before (...)" yea mate, we can see that as this thing is massive :D
Underrated!
i'm so glad you are actually gonna build and paint this thing!!! i can't imagine how many are still sitting on shelves in their boxes!!!
Considering they are famous for falling apart, not many left. Or complete.
I would make silicone molds from them, just to get the parts i need to build one made of resin. That way you’re even keeping the real treasure intact.
You know never even thought of that :O on that note, could GW come after you (if inclined) for making a copy? Or would that be fair use? Lol
@@jackthompson7546 no they couldn’t come after you if it’s just for your personal use. As long as you won’t try to sell them, you could make as many copies as you’d like
Or just download/make 3d model and 3d print it :)
The dude who used to run the games in games workshop liverpool had one of these. Brian you made my childhood worth having thank you for all the fun times!
The airbrush was invented in 1879, so yes their were airbrushes in the 80s and 90s lol
Kool ass model can’t wait to see how you paint it
1:24 Don’t forget the windshield wipers!
"I beat him and his army with my Thunderhawk before he even knew it was a fight." *Glances over at blood soaked, heavy metal Gunship*
Can confirm, I worked in Workshop during this period and every shop had a squad of those marines to paint up!
How are you with soldering? That really calls for it.
Nah, engine block epoxy. soldering those models doesn't really work.
There are interior supports and brass rods to run through the entire model. A little bit of pinning on major joints and super glue did just fine for mine.
I worked in pewter casting for about 6 years and in learning how to make molds I was taught that the metal shrinks up to 3%. This shrink is on top of any shrinking that happens before the mold is made depending whether a master copy needed to be made due to material heat tolerance
"I think this will take about a week to build." Lol good luck with that. That looks insane
This is one of those minis that deserves to be built and painted and used. But..its also one of those that needs to be preserved in its box for posterity. Its going to be a huge challenge to build. Good luck and I look forward to seeing the progress!
The sub assembly planning would take a week, let along the build
The veight of that thing, should create a black hole as soon at it reach falling velocity!
Great video. One small nitpick, 3rd edition codex was ‘98. They showed it off plenty in White Dwarf and brought the entire Ultramarines chapter to Games Day for years. Iirc it wasn’t just the ‘eavy metal team but people from all over GW HQ that contributed to painting it.
brings back memories. i was at games day 95, 6 and 7. good times.
Yeah me too.
Ditto
Congratulations!!! I can't wait to see this getting built! I'll definitely be checking out the sponsor to show appreciation as well. Thank you for making it possible to finally get a good look at this beauty, Lost Adventures and Squidmar!
"So...the Space Marines are cowards. They have no honor."
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I was 15 when i went to that Games Day and was amazed by this full chapter in the flesh. I also entered a mini in Golden Demon that year as they were the same event. This video just brought back great memories
For the record I was air brushing military armor in the late 70s....
I used to work in GW in Nottingham at the time, the Thunderhawk was the most desired miniature even by us, but the price and the difficulty of building it stopped most of us.
There was a joke we used to tell "You must be either mad or American to buy it".
last time I was this early, GW paid attention to xenos armies
This hurts
haha lol
So, someone bought it 25 years ago and haven't even assembled it since :D ? I feel much relieved now, with my 2006 Bretonian trebuchet :D
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I just want the box. Can I have the box, please?
Imagine if your box set was number 40,000 instead of 40,483...
@@daviddickson412 first One was 40001:)
Airbrushes existed before 1997. They were just super expensive and were never used in gaming.
Model train, military, and remote controlled planes had access to them.
As someone who delt with the large metal Nid models I suggest J and B quick welt to put it together.
Most glues are simply too weak to hold. Bad news, do it right the first time because once it's set it's metal.
This was the best ad read I’ve ever seen haha
Glad you found it!! Great to run across you in the community group 👍
Get ready for some seriously pinning and gluing. Any thoughts on the colour?
Congratulations! There’s something very special about finally acquiring a childhood grail.
Que buena onda! I couldnt explain how much i needed this video man!
That full Ultramarine painted army appeared in an earlier Whitedwarf magazine and came with an article. The Heavymetal team was years too small to paint it all. Most of it came from GW stores around the world, where they had to paint squads and mail them back to GW HQ, though the entire army aside from some special characters are painted in the most basic way possible for obvious reasons. the article included the chart they had to make to know who had to paint what/when. I actually have said whitedwarf, it's one of the first i ever bought. Oh and im jealous of your thunderhawk.
"No such thing as an airbrush" WHAT!? The airbrush was invented in 1893!
The Wehrmacht used paintbrush for tanks, but the paint roller wasn't a thing until 1947!
That Ultramarine army was painted by GW store staff. Each store had to paint a unit or a vehicle the same way. I was a teenager and helped paint them at My local GW store. 100% true story.
Imagine losing the key
Luckily there are channels out there like The Lockpicking Lawyer to help you open those treasures.
Bit of lore for you as I went to that Games Day, it was the stores who painted up the Ultramarines Army. Each store (were a lot less back then) was tasked to do one aspect of the display and they brought it with them on the day. So we all went up together from the stores in a coach hired by the store so we were with the staff. So while we all queued to get in the staff went in with the models and then were assigned stations in the Arena for the day.
There have been at least three Thunderhawk models for Epic, for mine looks a lot better (even more details, same shape though) than that second one, and I bought mine in 1999. ;-)
Though is your epic model heavy enough to break your foot?
@@redenginner well it IS metal and with my luck, it should just be enough to hit some (un)lucky spot.... Note: I have managed to break my foot twice last year. One time while putting on socks.
I heard a story about one of these from the staff at the store back when I played 40k. A store (not the one I was gaming at) got one of these, put it together, painted it all up and then put it pride of place in a display cabinet, where it immediately crashed through the glass shelf and proceeded to deep strike through everything underneath it.
"Back then there was no such thing as an airbrush"
On that, you're wrong. The first airbrush was invented in 1879, sir.
Whether they had access to one for this army is another matter of course, but exist they absolutely did.
I came here to comment on this... Airbrushes were in common use at this time.
Ya, I had an old Aztec back then when I started, but didn't get much use out of it. Still in my garage but they are pretty terrible lol
Amazing kit, I always wanted this version when I was younger. I built the first resin Thunderhawk gunship from Forgeworld about 14 years ago, then the Thunderhawk transporter a few years after, they were both horrendous to put together, never seen so many miss shaped bits on a kit, the gaps were huge and nothing fitted properly. Perseverance, determination and loads of super glue and plastic card. Result, two lovely, impressive centre pieces. Looking forward to this. 👍
Can you do youtube story behind the scenes on this one Emil please ❤️
It’s funny as hell when the quote on the certificate for the biggest space marine model ever is a quote from Macharius quoted by Kryptman, a regular human Lord General and a radical Inquisitor
Watch out for the instructions their not very good, I built one when they 1st came out and oh my God
You should put everything you have into painting this. Given it's rarity & price this should be your magnum opus.
Agreed, especially as patrons paid for this
@@kelvingriffiths6017 I mean, doesn't really matter if the money came from his youtube or patrons etc. Just meant it like, this is the thing he's wanted the most. He should spend hundreds of hours painting it. issue with vehicles is, it's hard to paint blends and transitions without it looking weird since it's mostly flat surfaces. so it won't take him as long to paint if i'm honest.
There were definitely airbrushes around in the mid nineties. I owned two of them.
Squdmar, that is awesome! All I can think is I'd recast it in plastic and build the plastic version, save the metal version. It will look amazing, regardless.
One picky bit: Airbrushes have been around for a *very* long time. They were invented about 1880, and I used them to do medical illustration, photo touch-up, magazine illustration, and display painting in the 1970s. I guess they just didn't figure using them for miniatures until later!
This guy flexing like that white metal.
I hope you cast this, either the entire ship or at least parts for other projects.
Not suggesting you make a garage kit of an edition of 100 kits and pocket some spending cash, selling each kit for £200+ x100kits= £20,000, no, I am not saying that. They would all sell, but I'm not saying to do that(btw, that's 233,403 SEK) I am just thinking you could incorporate parts of the planes parts in future terrain, dioramas, ect.
(Or sell maybe 5-10 kits and cover your costs?)
Yeah, ummm, airbrushes came about in the late 1800s so I'd say they had them. OOPS
Yep, they've been around forever - though back then more people were using the aerosol cans for propellant which were a pain in the butt!
fantastic, really brought back some memories. I actually own No.500. the last one ever made.
That's so awesome
You showed my thunderhawk when you went through all the old minis. A friend of mine build it and I can only say: use resin and epoxy to glue. Pinning alone will not give enough stability to it.
My buddy Matt painted that salamanders thunderbrick you show at the start, his entire old-skool epic army deserves a look, he hand sculpted the old MK1 terminators too.... Great to see epic scale minis on RUclips!
Good luck with this one - I was 15 in 1997, and after two years of saving up my Saturday job wages I was caught between buying one of these or my first computer. I went with the computer, but man I wish I'd picked one of these up. Can't wait to see what you make of it, nostalgia on a high my end :)
What kind of glue can you even use to hold a 9kg miniature together?
That complete chapter setup was actually done by all the stores. each store was assigned a specific squad or tank to do.
Excellent, I have one of these kicking about somewhere. I did try to put parts of it together, but it really is a beast to try and build. It's all very heavy metal, mine is a mixture of the old lead based metal and the newer white metal. I also used to give the tours around the "museum" when the full Ultramarines chapter was on display with the original Thunderhawk models.
We are the same age and our warhammer journey is similar and started Around the same time. Married and have kids now. Difficult to do anything now but I buy some minis from time to time, build sometimes but have no paint supplies anymore. I enjoy watching your content.
I still remember when the world tour of this was cut short in Australia because the thing snapped in half...
Memory and rumours being shared with a 13 y/o at the time - when I think back 25 years I was probably being sold a lie by my local (Castle Hill) GW at the time.
Such a beautiful model and to thing it was hand sculpted!
Back in the late 90s I was a regular at Portsmouth Wargames club. A guy brought in a fully and quite beautifully assembled but mostly unpainted metal Thunderhawk (this model). He was being escorted by his wife, who had discovered how much he had paid for it. She was there to make sure he sold it to one of the other club members. I don't know how much for, but she certainly had a scowl on her face.
I’m super super excited for this video series! Also, can’t wait to get my full set of busts and brushes! You rock Emil
This is where low temperature soldering comes into its own. This would simplify (and speed up) assembly and weight would not be an issue for any of the joints. Did a lot of white metal soldering in my model railway days with hundreds of locomotives and rolling stock kits.
can confirm that every store in the UK was given something from that company of Ultramarines to paint for the Games Day display. Although not a staffer at the time (I worked there shortly after 40k 3.5 launch), I was in the orbit of folks that were employed at the time