Just to let you know, you can actually see what you’re deleting. If you stare at the end of the text string, there is a tiny delete icon where the cursor placement is. You can stare at that icon and tap to delete. You don’t actually have to tap the delete key on the bottom of the virtual keyboard.
Yes, shared experiences are the number 1 thing Apple should work on. When I speak about it to people, often their first question is about this. I can’t believe 2 people with these devices, having spent a total of $8000, can’t even watch the same app together, as they can on a simple screen. Apple needs to fix this ASAP.
I agree that this would be a great device for a bachelor or someone living in a tiny apartment. A few years ago I was working in a different city and had a small apartment and this would’ve been awesome. This would’ve given me a great home office connected to my Mac,, an awesome home theatre and a great device for just general consumption. Harder for me to justify living in a house where there’s lots of room, a dedicated office, space, and where I would rather enjoy watching videos with my wife.
Can't the people walking around in public use it if they turned on travel mode? I know if you're in a plane or car the windows stay with you, I imagine it'd be the same with walking, right?
Ohh man. I remember my first time, it was an experience. And I have 3 vr headsets. People don’t get it .. until they try it. Back in the day with the first iPhone .. people were saying, my phone can do mp3, email, msg, internet .. I’m lot paying $600 .. the experience was just like nothing else. Think it’s the same here. We have vr/ar headsets.. it’s just different. Reality becomes boring. It’s like having super powers. And for me at least .. want to get back in. I’m torn as I don’t have a MacBook anymore. But maybe I will build a hackintosh with my pc. I need my pc, to work on my projects.
I went through 2 Vision Pro and ultimately ended up returning it. The reason being it was un able to track my hands due to them being heavily tattooed. Really makes me worry about the future of tech being the last 2 new products Apple has put out have not worked for me due to ink. The watch I have to wear clear furniture feet on the bottom or the watch just stays locked and is unusable the Vision Pro I was they work around is latex glove haha
I have a strong feeling the hand tracking regarding tattoos and gloves will be fixed easy and maybe quickly that just takes user data from people actually buying and using it
Yea...I already knew it wasn't gonna be smart enough to recognize tattoos. I'm fully face tattooed and covered from head to toe, it wouldn't recognize me at all. Immediate hard pass!
What if Apple considered Vision Pro having its own continuing product evolution and being treated in the same way concept cars are. A platform of the greatest ideas and designs all put on display, and then pulled from. All aspects of the concept are pulled from to create, refine or add to other products. Maybe Apple sees how much people enjoyed being able to have a simple extended monitor for their computers, and create a dedicated personal monitor headset. Maybe pull from aspects of the software experience to use in any or all of their other operating systems.
Ngl the novelty of it wore off when I was doing the demo.. it’s cool until you really start to think about how practical is it really. And even if they get a cheaper one made is it still worth it?
On the back strap of the Vision Pro there should be a battery holder. Wearing the battery WILL be heavier BUT it will be better balanced for less neck stress.
Very thoughtful review. As an artist I see the practical purposes already popping up (mural work , and virtual galleries) are of particular interest. So I am going to keep mine. I know I could likely do this in a Quest 3, but the Apple Ecosystem is a Hell of a drug. By biggest concern is weight distribution (which I think 3rd parties will improve with alternative straps, reddit already has renders of some concepts) and the apps. the killer apps need to be here and soon. WWDC will be a big signal for apples future plans for the device. Vision OS 2 is going to be something.
Truly, this was the first Apple product that I felt underwhelmed with. I wanted to like it and I constantly found myself looking for reasons to keep it, but even as a staunch supporter of Apple, that reason never came. In total, I ended up spending less than a few hours with it before deciding to return it on day 3 of ownership (even though I knew Apple would allow me to keep it for an additional 11 days). Having used Samsung folding phones, I personally feel that Apple should have used their financial resources on folding phones, rather than Apple Vision Pro. If this device is the reason we never see an Apple folding phone, then it makes the launch of Apple Vision Pro even that much more discouraging.
My takeaway has been that while right now it’s niche and expensive, I think apple has kinda nailed the user experiance. I think in the not to far future it will be mainstream to walk around with some sort of ar glasses, and I think apple will be a key player, alongside whatever open source competitor wins out, which could still be anyone at this point. The big question for me right now is which is bigger: AI, or AR? Maybe both, a real-world, general ai assistant that sees everything you do… scary sure, but the potential increase in human productivity it could create is insane. Side note: first app I would make if I could for reality os would be a virtual label organizing app that lets you label where all your stuff goes in virtual reality (and potentially offers help organizing it optimally). When your cleaning you know where everything goes via labels and search bar/ navigation options and then when you need to find it same thing, plus Siri/AI integration that is hopefully actually good and you can ask where it should be.
Steve Jobs said.a new category of device needs to be far better at some key tasks. Media isn’t it. The iPhone had phone, music and email and a proper mobile browser. Maybe not in the US networks, but in the U.K. it was extremely usable.
The Mac 1984: how is this better than a human calculator and paper? The iPod 2001: how is this better than a dvd player? The iPhone 2007: how is this better than blackberry and iPod combo? The iPad 2010: how is this better than an iPhone? Apple Watch: what does it do? Why not just use your iPhone? AirPods 2016: why not just use wired earbuds that don’t run out of battery Apple Vision Pro 2024:
@AnonN-sr6uu Nobody made argument #1 Nobody made argument #2 Nobody made argument #3 Nobody made argument #4 Apple watch had a purpose: health,fitness, time, easy pay, control phone without grabbing phone Airpods: Nobody made that argument. People made the argument of removing the headphone jack.
Great video drew! Really love the intro you did its good to see you try new things for your videos! One thing id recommend is for the VO just to have a bit more inflection in your speaking, it sounded a bit monotone compared to hiw you talk in front of the camera. Other than that i like it!
I think it's pretty clear now: The Apple Vision Pro is not today's iPhone. It's not today's Mac, and it's not today's iPod. This device will not be remembered like the first iPhone or the first Mac because the tech just isn't there yet to squeeze this technology into a convenient form factor. It's just a building block product. Maybe some future moonshot AR product will be the next iPhone, and maybe that will bring the technology to the masses with perfection, but it won't be the Vision Pro. It's like Xerox's computers. They really pioneered the graphical user interface, but when Xerox showed Steve Jobs their technology, Steve and his colleagues were the ones to give the technology the final push that it needed to become mainstream, and that was when Apple released the first Mac. The Vision Pro is nothing more than today's Xerox Alto computer. It is a concept, not a mass-market product. It shows what the technology can do, but it's not refined enough.
I bought an Oculus Go a couple years ago to see what VR was like. I found the same issue after the novelty wore off - what do I really need this for? I have no doubts Vision Pro would give me the same result all for $3,300 more.
I think a couple of years ago before the AVP and Quest 3... just about every VR headset including the Oculus Go were designed mainly for gaming. The difference today in VR with the Quest 3 and AVP... they're designed to do a lot more than gaming. I've owned several VR headsets over the past 7 years and today I own the Quest 3. I find today with the Quest 3 I spend a lot more time using the headset doing things besides playing games and I'm sure the same would be true with the AVP. Not much different when the first home computers came out in the 80's like the Atari 800, Commodore 64, etc... yes, they were computers but really, they were for gaming... 10 or so years later home computers became far more functional than just games and it spread like wildfire to every home. I believe that is what is happening today with VR & Mixed reality. It's actually exciting for me to be witnessing this evolution all over again.
Tim Cook is 63, he probably has 7 to 10 yrs left at the company on the high end. Apple is probably already well into the process of leadership change planning. They probably don't want a repeat of the 1990s with an incompatible CEO. I don't know if there's time to add an Apple Car to Tim's legacy but he will definitely make sure AVP is polished and thriving so that he can leave on a high note.
And yes they really need to give you the ability to “pin” apps so they follow you around. Their “zoom” window already does that, so they could easily do that. Don’t know why they didn’t.
If its start collecting dust after 6 months then obviously its not worth it at 3,500 nor is it worth it at 35 bucks.. but most reviewers I spoke with says it will definitely pass that mark no doubt about it but who knows maybe they’re wrong but if they’re right then its really disingenuous to put a blanket statement that “its not worth it” “its not worth it for me therefore its not worth it for you” its unaffordable therefore its not worth it..
Very interesting comments about Apple Vision Pro. It seems as if you've cut out all of the time between your sentences, and they all run on and run on and on and on and it's hard to follow when you don't breathe between your phrases
If you can airplay to a tv. Perhaps you can airplay to another phone as a display device and you can drop that into a phone VR headset and share your experience in that way.
I think considering what the competition is doing for roughly 7 times less its not worth all the glamour. Nothing "revolutionary" happening. Eye tracking has been done before, vr headsets are already in comfortable state and since it locks you in the ecosystem it's really not that great in the value for money aspect. Its weight, small battery, lack of app support and price tag are too much of a downside
Let me say I have never used on of these device yet and not even on my road map. I not going to lie the technology in the Vision Pro is great, but I don't think this product is for the average consumer. It is for the Business world for a better 3D Modeling environment. The biggest limitation Vision Pro will face is that the operating system is just another flavor of iOS. VisionOS will always be to limiting to replace a Mac. While I use iPad 80% of what I do in real life, it is still something I can interact with and touch. See, Apple dreams of this becoming main stream and I am surprised they even released a product like this. It is kinda unsure of what it wants to be, a TV, Monitor, or an iPad. I am lost of what this product is for unless you need 3D Modeling for work. All the feature people talk about are great yea, but what good are the feature if the average consumer can't afford it. Most people still buy a lower cost iPad. There is one way this product line could go main stream but it would have to take a drastic change in the design, and I don't know if Apple would want to do that. It not VR/AR that people want it is spatial computing that they want. So, where do they need to go from here, I would say a product that has a lot of the feature of Apple Vision Pro but build like Google Glass was built. We desire to be connected to other people in our lives. Once you take the person face & eyes away people feel disconnected for that person. That is why in 10 years not one of these headsets have taken off because the few that a sold each year. There has to be a middle ground and I don't think Apple's eyesight is going to change that. Great Idea mind you, just don't look right. So, that brings us to two type of products that will fit into a social environment eye glasses or contact lenses. Batteries aren't even close to giving us all day battery life in contacts lenses. The only other product is Glasses, you can see people face, and still ready body language with them. That is the product that is going to make spatial computing mainstream! Their are still a lot of issue worked out even on a set of Glasses. With all the sensors and camera to make it work properly. You would have to build a matrix that allows a user to select Windows to follow them around, as well an having static Windows that are left where the user leaves them. The last issue is processing power, if they want to replace the phone, tablet, and computer they would need to shrink the processing power to fit in an arm of the Glasses. No one want to carry a brick around with them. Only then will Apple hit the nail on the head with me. That product I would buy the day it came would out and built application for. Right now their isn't a market for VR/AR for the most part, because I don't think these headset everyone keeps build is what people wants. Sorry for being so long!
In 5 generations, I think AVP can/will start to replace some of the devices in the Apple ecosystem. The first to go will be the iPads. AVP, once polished and App ecosystem built out, will utterly make the iPads redundant for most users. By gen 10, laptops will start being something people just won't need, starting with the low end stuff and working upwards as the processing on AVP get more capable. The iPhone, that's a more murky one. Battery tech might not be there and the biggest hurdle (for me anyways) is I'm not sure I would want a cellular transmitter strapped right next to my head.
Imagine next Quest 4 in year or 2, if they remove the battery and made it even more lighter!!! Obviously they will bring eye tracking and even improved clarity to compete with Vision. Screen door effect is already thing of past. Plus their controllers for both hands have haptics which are really immersive for content and so good. And you can’t interact and play same games or share experiences across the globe with family members. I wanted Vision Pro now I want next lighter Quest and will wait for it. Their library and content are polished since they have been doing for years. Samsung will come out with one too and they originally had awesome content and were one of first ones with Samsung Gear. Those companies working with Samsung were bought by Apple. Lightest Weight will be the key element to enjoy this technology.
It feels like Apple is going to have more people return the vision pro than keep it. The refurbished store is going to have tons for sale very soon. 😮😂
I don't think AR is the future. I just don't see how you are going to be able to use tech when it's on your face. What if, lets say 10 years from now, you have a pair of AR glasses that look like regular glasses. Imagine you are driving, and you get a notification on your glasses. All you have to do is take your eyes off the road, look up at the notification, and get into an accident. That's not very good.
@@TailosiveTech True, but it would be a lot easier to take your eyes off the road with glasses than with a watch or phone because with glasses, all you have to do is look up. With a watch or a phone, you have to flick your arm or move your head to look at the notification on a tiny screen. Also, I don't see how you could drive with AR glasses and use directions without getting in trouble. People just can't be trusted, you know?
I think Apple will produce a less expensive version with fewer features, like EyeSight, but I don't think it will be at a "mass market" price e.g. below say $2k. I also don't think future versions of the Vision Pro are going to be revolutionary in nature. Even three or four versions down the line we are not likely going to see the display go from 4k per eye to 8k to get the "retina" label. We're not likely to see the external cameras double or quadruple in quality to get to pass-through to human eye quality. We're not likely to see a quadrupling in computing efficiency that would be needed to get "all day battery," etc. Apple put their best foot forward with this device, and it is really not as barebones as the original iPhone was by any measure. In fact, in many aspects it is on the cutting edge.
I don’t see any future where Apple does away with EyeSight. It is a core, fundamental feature of the product. Apple places a tremendous amount of emphasis on Vision Pro not removing you from the people and things around you, and the importance of maintaining connection to people during usage. If Apple truly felt this way, there’s no way they would do away with it and would reduce cost through other functions/features. For example removing (or creating a cheaper version) of the audio pods since AirPods still provide Spatial Audio (and realistically, AirPods Pro just sound way better than the audio pods. They could also move to a polymer frame similar to the plastic used in the AirPods/AirPods case. Beautiful, durable, and cheaper to make than a single milled block of aluminum (and would also drop the weight). And as the product scales in the marketplace, components like the OLED displays, R1, etc. will get cheaper and cheaper. They will get the price down, but the low resolution (and what is likely a low cost) EyeSight display isn’t it.
Had my demo yesterday! It was really heavy to me. Apparently I have a small head lol but it felt uncomfortable only after 15 minutes, solo knit band. I also really disliked having to concentrate and look at something in order to interact with it. Spatial videos on iPhone weren’t that good. The screens didn’t seem that detailed… environments weren’t high quality, neither were 3D movies or even Apple’s demo photos. The only thing really high detailed was the app interfaces and Safari, which was really nice at 100hz. It wasn’t as nearly as high quality as I was expecting. I can’t afford it, but I guess we’ll see how it improves down the line. 🤷🏽
You know there will be updates to apps and the software over the next year, so why get rid of it? If a major development happens in the next six months, you won’t have one to do a review on.
I like how my boy complained about how much money this channel generated this month but he’s barley putting in any effort to this channel, like buddy get your priorities straight 😂
The tech is cool and will no doubt get better. I am just worried about the future with spoiled children sitting at the diner table while still wearing their headset.
I understand the reasons you aren’t keeping the device, but it def comes across you only bought it for the views. A lot of RUclipsrs are doing the same.
Idc what it costs if it’s a good value for the price. This isn’t. The field of view sucks and there’s a reflectivity on the display when watching video content in dark rooms. Those two things ruin it as a work aid and as a movie theater. I don’t care about weight or battery life.
Apple Vision Air coming next - exactly like Google Glass, but with higher tech. But it will be eventually scrapped and abandoned due to spyphobia and things like that. I think those devices are doomed for mass market, they’ll remain a great tool for professionals only.
Your review (well done) is consistent with virtually all the reviews I've watched. Cool little bit of technology, but no real use case. Apple has been testing this product for years (I work for a biotech company in SF that did some use case testing for it), and our team thought it was really cool, but struggled to find a solid benefit in using it. Too big, too heavy and bulky, limited apps, WAY too expensive. And pretty much a single user device (this was not the case when we tested it). That's a killer problem, in my opinion. Will Apple or anyone make some killer apps that justify the purchase of one of these?? I'm skeptical. Clearly Apple doesn't have one yet.
Maybe I have a different perspective because I've been using VR headsets since 2013, but I must say that visionOS itself *is* the killer app of this device, and watching content or surfing the web with the UX design afforded by the OS. Apple's problem is that they needed a justification for the high cost, and decided to justify the price by marketing this to "professionals", when in reality it's a v1.0 proof-of-concept for the first actually intuitive VR operating system. Much like the very first iPhone was an underbaked proof-of-concept for the first actually intuitive mobile operating system (which was missing an SDK, an App Store, copy/paste, GPS, and much more at launch), and very few people took it seriously as a device for professionals. It was also called an expensive, fancy toy with too many drawbacks.
I want to use it to create music (and play live music) but… you just can’t, because it has no functional USB. The USB port on the battery is only for power. For music production you need to plug in a microphone that has no latency, and for that there is no other way than a wired connection right now. Not including this is a giant FU from Apple to all music producers, who helped shape Apple’s reputation over the years.
I think adding the information that Apple was widely known to be working on something in this category for over 10 years is important. That tells us that Apple did not look at an existing market and see where they could fit in, but in some ways led to other manufacturers developing products once they learned about Apple’s interest. Apple often has a way of shaping the tech industry based on just rumors and speculation about projects.
Fair review. Wouldn’t assume the car is on the sidelines because the VP arrived first. The car will release when Apple’s ready to release it. They’re rarely if ever in a rush.
I was disappointed. I thought you were going to actually talk about accessibility options for people with disabilities. You need to change the title of your video from the word accessibility to ease of use.
I’m not really referring to ease of use. I’m referring to how it’s not low price and therefore not accessible to the masses cause it’s too expensive. I’ll change the title tho
Starting off the review with completely baseless and parasocial "insight" (it's just your personal speculation) about Tim Cook's relationship with this product is very very weird. Even if its true, its not relevant to the consumer review of this product.
@@TailosiveTech I get that, but you have no informed insight into Tim Cook's decision. You are making really specific claims about his intentions and you don't know the guy. It's purely projection. Framing it impersonally would make this work way better.
Drew! Am I your only 50 year old spectator from Sweden?😁 We cant buy these VR gear in Sweden! Please hook my family up with a pair! Watch all your vids and I respect your take. Saludos para tu esposa😊
Easy to return it when you never had the intention of keeping it. As for those who actually like tech, I wouldn’t even sell it for a profit. There is objectively more value in this thing than $5,000 to me. I’m sure other tech enthusiasts will agree. I just can’t bring myself to return the most advanced personal electronics device ever made.
Just to let you know, you can actually see what you’re deleting. If you stare at the end of the text string, there is a tiny delete icon where the cursor placement is. You can stare at that icon and tap to delete. You don’t actually have to tap the delete key on the bottom of the virtual keyboard.
Yes, shared experiences are the number 1 thing Apple should work on. When I speak about it to people, often their first question is about this. I can’t believe 2 people with these devices, having spent a total of $8000, can’t even watch the same app together, as they can on a simple screen. Apple needs to fix this ASAP.
The returning window is over this Friday and we all knew drew needed to come out with this video soon or later 😂
I had finished the video 2 days ago. I made up my mind on the last podcast
We all knew there wasn’t a single chance he was going to keep it lol. I will say I have his bad habit of using stuff and returning it with tech.
Such a polished intro and video! It felt more like a video essay.
if you find this good watch fpt video about this
That intro was so good it could’ve been its own video
When you realize $3,500 is a lot of money for too many inconveniences..😆🤷🏻♂️
I agree that this would be a great device for a bachelor or someone living in a tiny apartment. A few years ago I was working in a different city and had a small apartment and this would’ve been awesome. This would’ve given me a great home office connected to my Mac,, an awesome home theatre and a great device for just general consumption. Harder for me to justify living in a house where there’s lots of room, a dedicated office, space, and where I would rather enjoy watching videos with my wife.
Great haircut! Shocked you didn’t open with a Tim Cook “GOOD MORNING”
Can't the people walking around in public use it if they turned on travel mode? I know if you're in a plane or car the windows stay with you, I imagine it'd be the same with walking, right?
Me and my wife are going in for a demo this weekend. I’m excited to try it and look forward to being able to add to the conversation in a new way
Ohh man. I remember my first time, it was an experience. And I have 3 vr headsets. People don’t get it .. until they try it. Back in the day with the first iPhone .. people were saying, my phone can do mp3, email, msg, internet .. I’m lot paying $600 .. the experience was just like nothing else. Think it’s the same here. We have vr/ar headsets.. it’s just different. Reality becomes boring. It’s like having super powers. And for me at least .. want to get back in. I’m torn as I don’t have a MacBook anymore. But maybe I will build a hackintosh with my pc. I need my pc, to work on my projects.
I went through 2 Vision Pro and ultimately ended up returning it. The reason being it was un able to track my hands due to them being heavily tattooed. Really makes me worry about the future of tech being the last 2 new products Apple has put out have not worked for me due to ink. The watch I have to wear clear furniture feet on the bottom or the watch just stays locked and is unusable the Vision Pro I was they work around is latex glove haha
I have a strong feeling the hand tracking regarding tattoos and gloves will be fixed easy and maybe quickly that just takes user data from people actually buying and using it
Fingers crossed was amazing on my flight other then almost knocking the women out next to me trying to make the screen bigger hahaha 😂
Yea...I already knew it wasn't gonna be smart enough to recognize tattoos. I'm fully face tattooed and covered from head to toe, it wouldn't recognize me at all. Immediate hard pass!
WHERE IS THE SKIT??????
Holy Bros going in with dat exposition
What if Apple considered Vision Pro having its own continuing product evolution and being treated in the same way concept cars are. A platform of the greatest ideas and designs all put on display, and then pulled from. All aspects of the concept are pulled from to create, refine or add to other products. Maybe Apple sees how much people enjoyed being able to have a simple extended monitor for their computers, and create a dedicated personal monitor headset. Maybe pull from aspects of the software experience to use in any or all of their other operating systems.
Ngl the novelty of it wore off when I was doing the demo.. it’s cool until you really start to think about how practical is it really. And even if they get a cheaper one made is it still worth it?
Best review so far of this device.
On the back strap of the Vision Pro there should be a battery holder. Wearing the battery WILL be heavier BUT it will be better balanced for less neck stress.
I don’t think it would be better. Way too much weight already
@@TailosiveTechRebrand it as a neck exercising strap that helps strengthen your neck muscles.
I thought they started with "pro" in the name because the Vision itself is something we already have with our eyes...
The front is a glass with a thin plastic layer
Very thoughtful review. As an artist I see the practical purposes already popping up (mural work , and virtual galleries) are of particular interest. So I am going to keep mine. I know I could likely do this in a Quest 3, but the Apple Ecosystem is a Hell of a drug. By biggest concern is weight distribution (which I think 3rd parties will improve with alternative straps, reddit already has renders of some concepts) and the apps. the killer apps need to be here and soon. WWDC will be a big signal for apples future plans for the device. Vision OS 2 is going to be something.
Truly, this was the first Apple product that I felt underwhelmed with. I wanted to like it and I constantly found myself looking for reasons to keep it, but even as a staunch supporter of Apple, that reason never came. In total, I ended up spending less than a few hours with it before deciding to return it on day 3 of ownership (even though I knew Apple would allow me to keep it for an additional 11 days). Having used Samsung folding phones, I personally feel that Apple should have used their financial resources on folding phones, rather than Apple Vision Pro. If this device is the reason we never see an Apple folding phone, then it makes the launch of Apple Vision Pro even that much more discouraging.
My takeaway has been that while right now it’s niche and expensive, I think apple has kinda nailed the user experiance. I think in the not to far future it will be mainstream to walk around with some sort of ar glasses, and I think apple will be a key player, alongside whatever open source competitor wins out, which could still be anyone at this point.
The big question for me right now is which is bigger: AI, or AR? Maybe both, a real-world, general ai assistant that sees everything you do… scary sure, but the potential increase in human productivity it could create is insane.
Side note: first app I would make if I could for reality os would be a virtual label organizing app that lets you label where all your stuff goes in virtual reality (and potentially offers help organizing it optimally). When your cleaning you know where everything goes via labels and search bar/ navigation options and then when you need to find it same thing, plus Siri/AI integration that is hopefully actually good and you can ask where it should be.
Steve Jobs said.a new category of device needs to be far better at some key tasks. Media isn’t it. The iPhone had phone, music and email and a proper mobile browser. Maybe not in the US networks, but in the U.K. it was extremely usable.
Would like to see Longer videos more often!
Introducing Apple Vision Pro: A giant tablet for your eyes.
While the technology is great, why do we need this product? What is it solving?
needing an office
The Mac 1984: how is this better than a human calculator and paper?
The iPod 2001: how is this better than a dvd player?
The iPhone 2007: how is this better than blackberry and iPod combo?
The iPad 2010: how is this better than an iPhone?
Apple Watch: what does it do? Why not just use your iPhone?
AirPods 2016: why not just use wired earbuds that don’t run out of battery
Apple Vision Pro 2024:
@AnonN-sr6uu
Nobody made argument #1
Nobody made argument #2
Nobody made argument #3
Nobody made argument #4
Apple watch had a purpose: health,fitness, time, easy pay, control phone without grabbing phone
Airpods: Nobody made that argument. People made the argument of removing the headphone jack.
Yes... what a contribution. A bullet point in the time line the Oculus Rift started 10 years ago.
It’s just for a different market.
I sell painting for more than $3500, and all they do is hang on a wall 🤷🏾
Great video drew! Really love the intro you did its good to see you try new things for your videos! One thing id recommend is for the VO just to have a bit more inflection in your speaking, it sounded a bit monotone compared to hiw you talk in front of the camera. Other than that i like it!
I think it's pretty clear now: The Apple Vision Pro is not today's iPhone. It's not today's Mac, and it's not today's iPod. This device will not be remembered like the first iPhone or the first Mac because the tech just isn't there yet to squeeze this technology into a convenient form factor. It's just a building block product. Maybe some future moonshot AR product will be the next iPhone, and maybe that will bring the technology to the masses with perfection, but it won't be the Vision Pro.
It's like Xerox's computers. They really pioneered the graphical user interface, but when Xerox showed Steve Jobs their technology, Steve and his colleagues were the ones to give the technology the final push that it needed to become mainstream, and that was when Apple released the first Mac. The Vision Pro is nothing more than today's Xerox Alto computer. It is a concept, not a mass-market product. It shows what the technology can do, but it's not refined enough.
I bought an Oculus Go a couple years ago to see what VR was like. I found the same issue after the novelty wore off - what do I really need this for? I have no doubts Vision Pro would give me the same result all for $3,300 more.
I think a couple of years ago before the AVP and Quest 3... just about every VR headset including the Oculus Go were designed mainly for gaming. The difference today in VR with the Quest 3 and AVP... they're designed to do a lot more than gaming. I've owned several VR headsets over the past 7 years and today I own the Quest 3. I find today with the Quest 3 I spend a lot more time using the headset doing things besides playing games and I'm sure the same would be true with the AVP. Not much different when the first home computers came out in the 80's like the Atari 800, Commodore 64, etc... yes, they were computers but really, they were for gaming... 10 or so years later home computers became far more functional than just games and it spread like wildfire to every home. I believe that is what is happening today with VR & Mixed reality. It's actually exciting for me to be witnessing this evolution all over again.
Drew, that haircut is sick! Looks great!
This would be good for manufacturing or following instructions in real time but needs better pass thru to shine. Like following a recipe
This is really good, but there's something weird about the editing on the voice over. There's not enough of a pause between the sentences.
I think you can sharply a movie together, requires an Apple TV or iPad but you can both watch the movie together
Tim Cook is 63, he probably has 7 to 10 yrs left at the company on the high end. Apple is probably already well into the process of leadership change planning. They probably don't want a repeat of the 1990s with an incompatible CEO. I don't know if there's time to add an Apple Car to Tim's legacy but he will definitely make sure AVP is polished and thriving so that he can leave on a high note.
And yes they really need to give you the ability to “pin” apps so they follow you around. Their “zoom” window already does that, so they could easily do that. Don’t know why they didn’t.
If its start collecting dust after 6 months then obviously its not worth it at 3,500 nor is it worth it at 35 bucks.. but most reviewers I spoke with says it will definitely pass that mark no doubt about it but who knows maybe they’re wrong but if they’re right then its really disingenuous to put a blanket statement that “its not worth it” “its not worth it for me therefore its not worth it for you” its unaffordable therefore its not worth it..
Very interesting comments about Apple Vision Pro. It seems as if you've cut out all of the time between your sentences, and they all run on and run on and on and on and it's hard to follow when you don't breathe between your phrases
Looking forward to this, gonna wait and watch on my tv
There’s no super like toggle on the video. Is it possible to turn it on?
The only good thing that you said in this video, it's that you are not keeping that thing, AVP it's just a big hype scam.
If you can airplay to a tv. Perhaps you can airplay to another phone as a display device and you can drop that into a phone VR headset and share your experience in that way.
lol nope
C’mon intro 🙌🏾👏🏾
I think considering what the competition is doing for roughly 7 times less its not worth all the glamour. Nothing "revolutionary" happening. Eye tracking has been done before, vr headsets are already in comfortable state and since it locks you in the ecosystem it's really not that great in the value for money aspect. Its weight, small battery, lack of app support and price tag are too much of a downside
26:52 think apple should do a onewheel type personal electric vehicle with their technology
“Yay I’m so excited” 😂
Let me say I have never used on of these device yet and not even on my road map. I not going to lie the technology in the Vision Pro is great, but I don't think this product is for the average consumer. It is for the Business world for a better 3D Modeling environment. The biggest limitation Vision Pro will face is that the operating system is just another flavor of iOS. VisionOS will always be to limiting to replace a Mac. While I use iPad 80% of what I do in real life, it is still something I can interact with and touch. See, Apple dreams of this becoming main stream and I am surprised they even released a product like this. It is kinda unsure of what it wants to be, a TV, Monitor, or an iPad. I am lost of what this product is for unless you need 3D Modeling for work.
All the feature people talk about are great yea, but what good are the feature if the average consumer can't afford it. Most people still buy a lower cost iPad.
There is one way this product line could go main stream but it would have to take a drastic change in the design, and I don't know if Apple would want to do that. It not VR/AR that people want it is spatial computing that they want. So, where do they need to go from here, I would say a product that has a lot of the feature of Apple Vision Pro but build like Google Glass was built.
We desire to be connected to other people in our lives. Once you take the person face & eyes away people feel disconnected for that person. That is why in 10 years not one of these headsets have taken off because the few that a sold each year. There has to be a middle ground and I don't think Apple's eyesight is going to change that. Great Idea mind you, just don't look right.
So, that brings us to two type of products that will fit into a social environment eye glasses or contact lenses. Batteries aren't even close to giving us all day battery life in contacts lenses. The only other product is Glasses, you can see people face, and still ready body language with them.
That is the product that is going to make spatial computing mainstream! Their are still a lot of issue worked out even on a set of Glasses. With all the sensors and camera to make it work properly. You would have to build a matrix that allows a user to select Windows to follow them around, as well an having static Windows that are left where the user leaves them. The last issue is processing power, if they want to replace the phone, tablet, and computer they would need to shrink the processing power to fit in an arm of the Glasses. No one want to carry a brick around with them.
Only then will Apple hit the nail on the head with me. That product I would buy the day it came would out and built application for. Right now their isn't a market for VR/AR for the most part, because I don't think these headset everyone keeps build is what people wants.
Sorry for being so long!
Drew - you CAN pinch and hold windows while walking around and they will come with you.
In 5 generations, I think AVP can/will start to replace some of the devices in the Apple ecosystem. The first to go will be the iPads. AVP, once polished and App ecosystem built out, will utterly make the iPads redundant for most users. By gen 10, laptops will start being something people just won't need, starting with the low end stuff and working upwards as the processing on AVP get more capable. The iPhone, that's a more murky one. Battery tech might not be there and the biggest hurdle (for me anyways) is I'm not sure I would want a cellular transmitter strapped right next to my head.
Imagine next Quest 4 in year or 2, if they remove the battery and made it even more lighter!!! Obviously they will bring eye tracking and even improved clarity to compete with Vision. Screen door effect is already thing of past. Plus their controllers for both hands have haptics which are really immersive for content and so good. And you can’t interact and play same games or share experiences across the globe with family members. I wanted Vision
Pro now I want next lighter Quest and will wait for it. Their library and content are polished since they have been doing for years. Samsung will come out with one too and they originally had awesome content and were one of first ones with Samsung Gear. Those companies working with Samsung were bought by Apple. Lightest Weight will be the key element to enjoy this technology.
Fascinating device, I just can’t justify the price and usage.
It feels like Apple is going to have more people return the vision pro than keep it. The refurbished store is going to have tons for sale very soon. 😮😂
I don't think AR is the future. I just don't see how you are going to be able to use tech when it's on your face. What if, lets say 10 years from now, you have a pair of AR glasses that look like regular glasses. Imagine you are driving, and you get a notification on your glasses. All you have to do is take your eyes off the road, look up at the notification, and get into an accident. That's not very good.
Phones can take your eyes off the road already. As do watches
@@TailosiveTech True, but it would be a lot easier to take your eyes off the road with glasses than with a watch or phone because with glasses, all you have to do is look up. With a watch or a phone, you have to flick your arm or move your head to look at the notification on a tiny screen. Also, I don't see how you could drive with AR glasses and use directions without getting in trouble. People just can't be trusted, you know?
@@sdfjsdthanks mom.
I think Apple will produce a less expensive version with fewer features, like EyeSight, but I don't think it will be at a "mass market" price e.g. below say $2k. I also don't think future versions of the Vision Pro are going to be revolutionary in nature. Even three or four versions down the line we are not likely going to see the display go from 4k per eye to 8k to get the "retina" label. We're not likely to see the external cameras double or quadruple in quality to get to pass-through to human eye quality. We're not likely to see a quadrupling in computing efficiency that would be needed to get "all day battery," etc. Apple put their best foot forward with this device, and it is really not as barebones as the original iPhone was by any measure. In fact, in many aspects it is on the cutting edge.
I don’t see any future where Apple does away with EyeSight. It is a core, fundamental feature of the product. Apple places a tremendous amount of emphasis on Vision Pro not removing you from the people and things around you, and the importance of maintaining connection to people during usage. If Apple truly felt this way, there’s no way they would do away with it and would reduce cost through other functions/features. For example removing (or creating a cheaper version) of the audio pods since AirPods still provide Spatial Audio (and realistically, AirPods Pro just sound way better than the audio pods. They could also move to a polymer frame similar to the plastic used in the AirPods/AirPods case. Beautiful, durable, and cheaper to make than a single milled block of aluminum (and would also drop the weight). And as the product scales in the marketplace, components like the OLED displays, R1, etc. will get cheaper and cheaper.
They will get the price down, but the low resolution (and what is likely a low cost) EyeSight display isn’t it.
Had my demo yesterday! It was really heavy to me. Apparently I have a small head lol but it felt uncomfortable only after 15 minutes, solo knit band. I also really disliked having to concentrate and look at something in order to interact with it. Spatial videos on iPhone weren’t that good. The screens didn’t seem that detailed… environments weren’t high quality, neither were 3D movies or even Apple’s demo photos. The only thing really high detailed was the app interfaces and Safari, which was really nice at 100hz. It wasn’t as nearly as high quality as I was expecting. I can’t afford it, but I guess we’ll see how it improves down the line. 🤷🏽
I thought this was a great video good job man 😀
You know there will be updates to apps and the software over the next year, so why get rid of it? If a major development happens in the next six months, you won’t have one to do a review on.
is there a good apple watch RUclips app yet?
It’s heavy
& not worth the hype
I like how my boy complained about how much money this channel generated this month but he’s barley putting in any effort to this channel, like buddy get your priorities straight 😂
You seem to have been searching for problems with the device. The eye tracking is not as tedious as you make it seem.
Apple iScooter when?
It would dominate the e scooter market
The tech is cool and will no doubt get better. I am just worried about the future with spoiled children sitting at the diner table while still wearing their headset.
0:00 Weirdest skit I’ve seen on this channel so far 🤔
I'm liking this long form no nonsense format to your video @Tailosive Tech .. I'm glad you didn't do terrible Tim Cook impressions in this video
I understand the reasons you aren’t keeping the device, but it def comes across you only bought it for the views. A lot of RUclipsrs are doing the same.
Lovely intro
Idc what it costs if it’s a good value for the price. This isn’t. The field of view sucks and there’s a reflectivity on the display when watching video content in dark rooms. Those two things ruin it as a work aid and as a movie theater. I don’t care about weight or battery life.
I remember when Samsung had Gear VR everyone said Apple would never make a headset
Apple Vision Air coming next - exactly like Google Glass, but with higher tech. But it will be eventually scrapped and abandoned due to spyphobia and things like that. I think those devices are doomed for mass market, they’ll remain a great tool for professionals only.
What’s your thoughts on FaceTime on vision pro?
Terrifying, unnatural
@@TailosiveTechAfter watching some of the demos, I have to agree.
I think I'll hold on to my thirty five hundred dollars and wait for the next generation of Apple Vision Pro.
Thank you for actually putting effort in your videos
I think for many many folks Vision isn’t going to be a “never” product for them but more so “one day hopefully”
👍👍video review, this tech will be good in a few more years combined with ai in a future smaller lighter better more useful & cheaper version
Complaining about own problems is not the device fault
Your review (well done) is consistent with virtually all the reviews I've watched. Cool little bit of technology, but no real use case. Apple has been testing this product for years (I work for a biotech company in SF that did some use case testing for it), and our team thought it was really cool, but struggled to find a solid benefit in using it.
Too big, too heavy and bulky, limited apps, WAY too expensive. And pretty much a single user device (this was not the case when we tested it). That's a killer problem, in my opinion.
Will Apple or anyone make some killer apps that justify the purchase of one of these?? I'm skeptical. Clearly Apple doesn't have one yet.
Maybe I have a different perspective because I've been using VR headsets since 2013, but I must say that visionOS itself *is* the killer app of this device, and watching content or surfing the web with the UX design afforded by the OS. Apple's problem is that they needed a justification for the high cost, and decided to justify the price by marketing this to "professionals", when in reality it's a v1.0 proof-of-concept for the first actually intuitive VR operating system. Much like the very first iPhone was an underbaked proof-of-concept for the first actually intuitive mobile operating system (which was missing an SDK, an App Store, copy/paste, GPS, and much more at launch), and very few people took it seriously as a device for professionals. It was also called an expensive, fancy toy with too many drawbacks.
I want to use it to create music (and play live music) but… you just can’t, because it has no functional USB. The USB port on the battery is only for power.
For music production you need to plug in a microphone that has no latency, and for that there is no other way than a wired connection right now. Not including this is a giant FU from Apple to all music producers, who helped shape Apple’s reputation over the years.
That's a shame. No support for USB flash drives then?
good comparison to the first iPhone. not to mention the ridiculous price for the time; $600!
24:14 my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
So you got 4K Vision Pro which you can return. But not $5 RUclips app coz you can’t return it. Great!
Tim Cook is going to invent the apple droid so he can download himself so he can rule apple forever
You sound like Tim Cook in this video.
Its a gimmick
That’s 40 minutes I won’t get back. Return it then
Miss the skit, shame your not keeping it
I wonder how many vision pros will end up as expensive paperweights
I think adding the information that Apple was widely known to be working on something in this category for over 10 years is important. That tells us that Apple did not look at an existing market and see where they could fit in, but in some ways led to other manufacturers developing products once they learned about Apple’s interest. Apple often has a way of shaping the tech industry based on just rumors and speculation about projects.
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I have zero desire to buy this ever lol.
Limited version price 😂
your wife is watching the same shows as u? ....lucky
Fair review. Wouldn’t assume the car is on the sidelines because the VP arrived first. The car will release when Apple’s ready to release it. They’re rarely if ever in a rush.
✅💯👌👏
I was disappointed. I thought you were going to actually talk about accessibility options for people with disabilities. You need to change the title of your video from the word accessibility to ease of use.
I’m not really referring to ease of use. I’m referring to how it’s not low price and therefore not accessible to the masses cause it’s too expensive. I’ll change the title tho
Come on lol
It says “affordability”
Why would he make options for people with disabilities the primary focus of his review?
“You need to change the title of your video” 😂😂😂 just dislike it and go away what do you mean he NEEDS to change his video
Starting off the review with completely baseless and parasocial "insight" (it's just your personal speculation) about Tim Cook's relationship with this product is very very weird. Even if its true, its not relevant to the consumer review of this product.
It’s about the why behind it. Which helps understand many of the decisions
@@TailosiveTech I get that, but you have no informed insight into Tim Cook's decision. You are making really specific claims about his intentions and you don't know the guy. It's purely projection. Framing it impersonally would make this work way better.
Drew! Am I your only 50 year old spectator from Sweden?😁
We cant buy these VR gear in Sweden! Please hook my family up with a pair! Watch all your vids and I respect your take. Saludos para tu esposa😊
Requires a US Apple ID to work I’m afraid 😞
Easy to return it when you never had the intention of keeping it.
As for those who actually like tech, I wouldn’t even sell it for a profit. There is objectively more value in this thing than $5,000 to me. I’m sure other tech enthusiasts will agree. I just can’t bring myself to return the most advanced personal electronics device ever made.
Yeah the title of this video should be something completely different. Was not expecting this when the word - accessibility is in the title
Nice intro bro .. very professional
That’s much more better opening is he not trying to be funny which results in maturity people on this planet feeling nauseated
The skits are funny and people enjoy them. If you don’t don’t watch